The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Grnfinger]

Here's what I used:
Bios settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1128
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Then the extra sub-timings for the Rampage: 14-5-1-6-6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled(tried Enable no diffrence)
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate/Strong
Performance Level : 7 (I had it at 6 for FSB at 425 + 1133MHz RAM on my QX9650, but for 450 it had to go to 7)
All pull-ins disabled.

These settings were pretty decent and stable, but I hadn't really played with them enough in terms of tightening timings to squeeze a bit more out of the sticks.

Thanks:up:

Will give me something to play with while I'm off work tomorrow, seems I'm ( cough cough) getting sick:rofl:

[zlojack]

LOL...yeah... I might be getting a cold sometime next week after my new chip arrives :D

[yobi]

any info - new bios for MR.406 ?

[AquaRelliux]

Here's what I used:
Bios settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1128
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Then the extra sub-timings for the Rampage: 14-5-1-6-6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled(tried Enable no diffrence)
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate/Strong
Performance Level : 7 (I had it at 6 for FSB at 425 + 1133MHz RAM on my QX9650, but for 450 it had to go to 7)
All pull-ins disabled.

These settings were pretty decent and stable, but I hadn't really played with them enough in terms of tightening timings to squeeze a bit more out of the sticks.

Tried those settings with my system dident even pass loading screen, and I have pretty much a veyr alike system like u, diffrence beeing 1 less pair of rams(should only improve) and using a Q9450 insteed that is basicly the same cpu as yours but with a lower multiplier so I dont get it why i dont get it stable I copied your settings should I turn something off in cpu condifuration I have pretty much all on enable

[zlojack]

Tried those settings with my system dident even pass loading screen, and I have pretty much a veyr alike system like u, diffrence beeing 1 less pair of rams(should only improve) and using a Q9450 insteed that is basicly the same cpu as yours but with a lower multiplier so I dont get it why i dont get it stable I copied your settings should I turn something off in cpu condifuration I have pretty much all on enable

That's strange, man. I've got those settings running right now. What volts are you using on your RAM and NB? I'm at 1.59 vNB and 2.0 vram.

Of course, with RAM you never know. I might have got lucky with my sticks (because I sure have had a hell of a time with CPUs!:shakes:)

[Sources]

I think it actually may be your PSU giving you problems. 3 hard drives, 2 vid cards, liquid cooling, fans, etc... might be taxing for the 580w

PS also try running with one vid card if you think it might be the modded one.




Hello

I just swapped my 4x1gb Ballistix PC8500 ram to 2x2gb Dominator PC8500 ram to fix my system hang problems. But it still dident slove it I always get 1 crash when the system hangs and I need to force reboot no bsod nothing like that just freeze screen. I have been trying 1 millon settings and still no go I having the feeling that it might be a good idea to get a X48 moderboard but I am not sure. Always after 1 hang it runs fine horus after that the system is:

Q9450@3600mhz 1.23v(100% prime blend and small ffts stable even tryied OCCT ran smooth for 2 hours) max temp around 50c with realtemp it is watercooled.
Asus maximus X38 modded to rampage 0403 bios
2x2gb Dominator PC8500 ram
2x Powercolor 3870s in crossfire only one with modded bios might this be it?, both run @850/1271 and I always get the damn atikmdag problem in same games.
Tagan Easycon 580watt PSU should be enough I heard alot of times.
3x hdds, 1x velociraptor 300gb, 1x 500gb WD sata, 1x 250gb WD sata
1x Samsung Dvd recorder

Bios settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 103(tried 100-110 not diffrence over 110 and it dosent boot)
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 4
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled(tried Enable no diffrence)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : 7 (tried alot of other settings but only boots in 7 otherwise blackscreen)

CPU Voltage : 1.23785v(1.23v load) (tried up to 1.3 no diffrence)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59v(tried from 1.4v-1.65 no diffrence)
DRAM Voltage : 2.04(2.1v real) (tried 1.90v and that makes the system completly unstable)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36v(Everest and bios says 1.26v so it should be fine or should I not trust Everest and bios?)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.5v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto(tried 0.63x but crashed on windows vista boot logo)
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x( Tried alot of diffrent but still crashing)
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5v

NB LED Selection : FSBT Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Plz anyone got any ideas är should I just sell the crap and by a P5Q that seems really good, plz guys I am getting crazy here and I dont really have the money to buy a new mobo, also forgott to mention both gfx and NB is watercooled max NB temp os around 40c max load and gfx around 45c load?

//Aqua

[Overload]

Well now I have a 8400 running on MF bios 1102 temps are very good and acurate 30c idle and 55c load 478x9@1.40vCore. Everest and coretemp both read the temps correctly. Asus anal probe is crap, if you have an older version of everest it will read them wrong. Version 4.50.1330 is very acurate for 45nm cpu's, coretemp can be adjusted to the proper tjmax by editing the settings file tjmaxoffset= ( add whatever value )

So in your opinion I might be able to use lower vCore with my E8400 if I use the MF1102 over the RF401 bios? For some reason I just couldn't get the RF403 bios to work stable with my E8400 SLAPL. My vCore is at 1.40v now @ 445x9 with the RF401 flash.

[boombastic]

I've got an Asus Maximus Formula@Rampage and, connected to the six SATA ports, a DVD-RW, 4 Raptor (10000 RPM) configured as Raid-0 and another Raptor-X as storage.
When i copy from or to this last Raptor the PC always hang and i have to reboot manually.
Could it be that the sata controller has been saturated with this high I/O?
The other components are
Seasonic M12 700w
Q6600@3Ghx
2x1GB+2x512MB OCZ
Supreme FX sound card
Peak HD3870

thanks for yuor help!!

[chawks2]

Could it be that the sata controller has been saturated with this high I/O?

Highly doubtful. I have a RAID0, RAID5, 1TB storage drive. I experience no issues copying files with Vista SP1.

1. My first suspicion would be something to do with the SATA DVDRW. Unplug it, try the copy.
2. Ensure the Raptor X cable is not loose.
3. Try a different cable.
4. Try a different SATA port.

[Zucker2k]

I've got an Asus Maximus Formula@Rampage and, connected to the six SATA ports, a DVD-RW, 4 Raptor (10000 RPM) configured as Raid-0 and another Raptor-X as storage.
When i copy from or to this last Raptor the PC always hang and i have to reboot manually.
Could it be that the sata controller has been saturated with this high I/O?
The other components are
Seasonic M12 700w
Q6600@3Ghx
2x1GB+2x512MB OCZ
Supreme FX sound card
Peak HD3870

thanks for yuor help!!

My first suspicion is that your system is NOT stable, as in, it is probably not a hardware issue, but a stability issue. Post your bios settings, I'm sure some ich/fsbt/vnb tweaks will fix that.

[AquaRelliux]

I think it actually may be your PSU giving you problems. 3 hard drives, 2 vid cards, liquid cooling, fans, etc... might be taxing for the 580w

PS also try running with one vid card if you think it might be the modded one.

I dont think so actually 3870 dont use that much power at all

[chawks2]

My first suspicion is that your system is NOT stable

I made the assumption he was running at stock. Bad assumption. ;)

[boombastic]

The system has been stable even with a FSB of 380 Mhz with my previous config. (2xRaptor Raid-0 and the same Optical Drive), anyway i tried this:

1)change sata cable: no
2)unplug DVD-RW: no

could i t be that the controller doesn't like bot a Non Raid Disk and 4 Raid disks?

Anyway my bios config is at the moment (but i also tried with 266 FSB):

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 333
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Then the extra sub-timings for the Rampage: 14-5-1-5-5
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Performance Level : AUTO
All pull-ins disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.4875v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47v
DRAM Voltage : 1.90v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5v

NB LED Selection : FSBT Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[HermS]

I realised temps were causing a problem for me, my NB was blisteringly hot underload @ 62c and the Southbridge was not much better, so I decided to take the heatsink off while I was refilling and maintaining my water loop. I've never noticed a drastic improvement from replacing stock TIMs on NB's from other boards so was slightly sceptical, but after re-applying with Ceramique I took more than 10c off my NB temps and the SB temps dropped significantly too.:cool:

So, the drops in temps gave me more confidence to get a little more adventurous with the voltages and I've made a little progress here, switched to 5:6 divider and pushed FSB a little further. CPU needs 1.48v for 3.75Ghz prime stabel and ~1.53v to hit 3.8 Prime stable with load temps not exceeding 67c.:up:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q148/JAFFA22/3800.png

[chawks2]

could i t be that the controller doesn't like bot a Non Raid Disk and 4 Raid disks?

No, as I stated previously, I have a similar setup to yours.

I would configure the machine back to stock/auto values and see if you experience the same behavior.

[Grnfinger]

any info - new bios for MR.406 ?

I'm about to try it out
lets see if tref has been adjusted

[theonlybabyface]

I'm about to try it out
lets see if tref has been adjusted

I'm interested in this as well....

[Grnfinger]

406 is extremely unstable for my setup, 2 random bsod while testing with everest and superPI, 1 bsod while trying to post to the forum.
Cant report on tref settings I could not make that far into everest, many errors when Vista loaded, anitvirus stopped working, logitech G-15 stoftware stopped responding, hell cpuz would not load.
I do not like RF406!
Best to date for bandwidth is 308 imo, 403 is very stable and I have zero complaints other than the changed tref setting.
MF1102 is rather decent and is spot on with RF403 for performance, atleast with my hardware.
I have tested a E8400, Q6600 and a Q6700, running 2x1GBs(Corsair) and 2x2GBs(GSkill) and I can say with exception to boot times (Rampage is faster) MF1102 & RF403 are nearly identical.

[cadaveca]

Might be my Hynix bios, I'll give it a go. Link?

EDIT Nevermind, last page.

[Grnfinger]

Ok first I must retract my previous post.
Seems to much beer has clouded my judgment. In my bios settings for 406 I had incorrect ram voltage wich caused my instability.:stick:
So I will retest it once I grab another beverage and report back.:toast2:


Update

Tref is still set at 3120.
I cannot see / feel a difference from 403, if I didnt know 406 was loaded I wouldnt be able to tell any difference, altho Vista does seems to have a more "fluid" feel to it.

[AquaRelliux]

I think it actually may be your PSU giving you problems. 3 hard drives, 2 vid cards, liquid cooling, fans, etc... might be taxing for the 580w

PS also try running with one vid card if you think it might be the modded one.

It sems like puttign 2.1v on ram solved it 100% stable now it should have crashed if it was like befire but it hasent thx for the advice Grnfinger :)

[zlojack]

Ok first I must retract my previous post.
Seems to much beer has clouded my judgment. In my bios settings for 406 I had incorrect ram voltage wich caused my instability.:stick:
So I will retest it once I grab another beverage and report back.:toast2:


Update

Tref is still set at 3120.
I cannot see / feel a difference from 403, if I didnt know 406 was loaded I wouldnt be able to tell any difference, altho Vista does seems to have a more "fluid" feel to it.

So really they only changed tREF?

What was the difference between 0308 and 0403 on tREF? Does it make that much of a difference?

[theonlybabyface]

So really they only changed tREF?

What was the difference between 0308 and 0403 on tREF? Does it make that much of a difference?


Well the tREF on 0308 is 16383T which is faster than any of the bios' afterwards including 0406 (3120). Since you cannot change this option in the bios, stick with 0308 for more bandwidth unless you are having issues with your ram as the looser tREF setting of 3120 "may" help. :)

[zlojack]

Well the tREF on 0308 is 16383T which is faster than any of the bios' afterwards including 0406 (3120). Since you cannot change this option in the bios, stick with 0308 for more bandwidth unless you are having issues with your ram as the looser tREF setting of 3120 "may" help. :)

Thanks:up:

My RAM was perfectly fine at 1122 MHz on 0308, so I think I'll flash back and see what difference it makes.

[Zucker2k]

Ok first I must retract my previous post.
Seems to much beer has clouded my judgment. In my bios settings for 406 I had incorrect ram voltage wich caused my instability.:stick:
So I will retest it once I grab another beverage and report back.:toast2:


Update

Tref is still set at 3120.
I cannot see / feel a difference from 403, if I didnt know 406 was loaded I wouldnt be able to tell any difference, altho Vista does seems to have a more "fluid" feel to it.

Was the beer glass empty when you wrote that? :)

[M-XXXX]

Could you tell me MAX bench voltages for:

PLL
NB
FSB
SATA voltage
DDR2 REF Voltages?

[msarp]

Is there any issues w/ mounting the Thermalright ULTRA 120 EXTREME on my new Asus Maximus Formula SE X38 ?
Thanks

[Hockster]

Is there any issues w/ mounting the Thermalright ULTRA 120 EXTREME on my new Asus Maximus Formula SE X38 ?
Thanks

Nope.

[msarp]

thanks!!!

[tc17]

I started having reboot problems, where this motherboard started in a non-stop reboot sequence. Pushing the clear cmos button did nothing. I had to remove the cmos battery to get it to stop.

Is there a fix for this?

And does the Rampage bios have this same problem?

Its rather ridiculous that such an expensive board would have a problem like this. I'm currently running the 1201 bios.

[OVERK|LL]

I started having reboot problems, where this motherboard started in a non-stop reboot sequence. Pushing the clear cmos button did nothing. I had to remove the cmos battery to get it to stop.

Is there a fix for this?

And does the Rampage bios have this same problem?

Its rather ridiculous that such an expensive board would have a problem like this. I'm currently running the 1201 bios.

And you've come to the conclusion that this problem is the board how? It could be a setting, or an incompatible piece of hardware causing this issue, given that the rest of us are NOT having this issue, it's hard to point fingers at the board.........

[[IO]Mechti]

Hi,
I've just built me a new system: Rampage Formula and a QX9770. The system works fine and I wanted to overclock it a little bit, so I set the multiplier from 8.0 to 9.0 and Prime 95 ran for 10h without a single error. But when I switch my PC completely off (I switch the PSU off) and bott again I get the followin error:
"Error! The CPU to Bus ratio or VID configuration has failed"
I can then change the BIOS settings via F1 or load defaults with F2. If I choose F1 and change nothing the system boots properly and runs perfectly.
And the strange thing is: If i shutdown my PC and don't switch off my PSU this error does not occur. When I restart Vista the error does not occur, too.
The error also occurs if I just set the multiplier to 8, 7 or even 6 (but with "Auto" (=8) the error does not occur).
That's really strange, isn't it?
I use BIOS version 406 (but I already testet 403, 401 and 308) and have no idea what I can do to solve this problem.
I have seen that others here in this thread have the same issue. Here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2952567&postcount=4693 it is sait that the error occurs when all memory slots are used - I use 4x2GB of memory but I also tried just to use one slot with 2GB of memory and the error still occurs.
I also tried to increase the core voltage up to 1,35 but this did not help either. Can anybody help me?
Thanks in advance

//Edit: Here are the other components of my pc:
Board: Rampage Formula (Bios 0406)
CPU: QX9770
Memory:4 x 2GB OCZ Platinum XTC DIMM Kit 4GB PC2-8000U CL5-5-5-15 @2,1V
HDD: 1x WD VelociRaptor, 2x WD Caviar SE16 640GB @ Raid 0
GPU: Powercolor HD4870
PSU: Amacrox Freestyle 750W
CPU-fan: Noctua NH-U12P (with 2 fans in push-pull)
Further I have 5 other case fans in my Cosmos S 1000 but I didn't connect a fan to the "PWR"-connector on the board because in another forum I read that this can cause problems, too.

[tc17]

And you've come to the conclusion that this problem is the board how? It could be a setting, or an incompatible piece of hardware causing this issue, given that the rest of us are NOT having this issue, it's hard to point fingers at the board.........
Because in the past I have read posts from many other people who HAVE had this problem. I guess you speak for everyone huh?

[OVERK|LL]

Because in the past I have read posts from many other people who HAVE had this problem. I guess you speak for everyone huh?

With this board in particular? I simply don't recall reading that in this thread. If I'm wrong, my apologies.

Have you tried the basic "swap parts" out and see if it fixes it?

[philbrown23]

so hasn't the rampage extreme just come out?? if so wouldnt a maximus extreme to rampage extreme conversion work?? I'll be the gunea pig if someone will get me a file with everything needed on it so I can just extract it to a usb drive and go to town, hook me up guys, these maximus extreme bios really suck and are seriously limiting my overclocks I know my E8500 has way more in it!

[ZenEffect]

well, i just got my mobo back from rma. giving it a quick run through right now :D

w00t! now to rma my dfi :(

[ante_ante]

Having a problem when i´m trying to unpack a dvd for example. It takes 7min 30s for a 4,3gb file. Doesn´t think it would take so long. what could be the problem ?? Running Vista X64

[chawks2]

Turbo, are you running SP1 for x64 Vista? It increases file xfer rates tremendously.

[Grnfinger]

Having a problem when i´m trying to unpack a dvd for example. It takes 7min 30s for a 4,3gb file. Doesn´t think it would take so long. what could be the problem ?? Running Vista X64

I had the same problem with Vista 64bit, the latest chipset drivers solved the problem for me, you should give them a try.

[ante_ante]

I had the same problem with Vista 64bit, the latest chipset drivers solved the problem for me, you should give them a try.

Yes i have sp1. And which is the latest chipset driver then ?

[ZenEffect]

well, im having troubles now benching at 545fsb :rofl:
rampage modded it straight away :P

i will get a 5.1ghz bench in tonight no matter what !

*edit*
also should i be worried that setting lowest available 1.5ppl results in 1.61?

[Grnfinger]

well, im having troubles now benching at 545fsb :rofl:
rampage modded it straight away :P

i will get a 5.1ghz bench in tonight no matter what !

*edit*
also should i be worried that setting lowest available 1.5ppl results in 1.61?

I think 1.70+ is cause for concern


Yes i have sp1. And which is the latest chipset driver then ?

I have a link but I'm not at my pc right now I will post it shortly for you if you still need it.

[[IO]Mechti]

Here you can find the latest chipset-drivers:
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20chipset.htm

[Robilar]

Mechti;3122787']Hi,
I've just built me a new system: Rampage Formula and a QX9770. The system works fine and I wanted to overclock it a little bit, so I set the multiplier from 8.0 to 9.0 and Prime 95 ran for 10h without a single error. But when I switch my PC completely off (I switch the PSU off) and bott again I get the followin error:
"Error! The CPU to Bus ratio or VID configuration has failed"
I can then change the BIOS settings via F1 or load defaults with F2. If I choose F1 and change nothing the system boots properly and runs perfectly.
And the strange thing is: If i shutdown my PC and don't switch off my PSU this error does not occur. When I restart Vista the error does not occur, too.
The error also occurs if I just set the multiplier to 8, 7 or even 6 (but with "Auto" (=8) the error does not occur).
That's really strange, isn't it?
I use BIOS version 406 (but I already testet 403, 401 and 308) and have no idea what I can do to solve this problem.
I have seen that others here in this thread have the same issue. Here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2952567&postcount=4693 it is sait that the error occurs when all memory slots are used - I use 4x2GB of memory but I also tried just to use one slot with 2GB of memory and the error still occurs.
I also tried to increase the core voltage up to 1,35 but this did not help either. Can anybody help me?
Thanks in advance

//Edit: Here are the other components of my pc:
Board: Rampage Formula (Bios 0406)
CPU: QX9770
Memory:4 x 2GB OCZ Platinum XTC DIMM Kit 4GB PC2-8000U CL5-5-5-15 @2,1V
HDD: 1x WD VelociRaptor, 2x WD Caviar SE16 640GB @ Raid 0
GPU: Powercolor HD4870
PSU: Amacrox Freestyle 750W
CPU-fan: Noctua NH-U12P (with 2 fans in push-pull)
Further I have 5 other case fans in my Cosmos S 1000 but I didn't connect a fan to the "PWR"-connector on the board because in another forum I read that this can cause problems, too.


I have the same issue the Asus P5E when I have any type of overclock.

works fine but gives me the same error on bootup. bypass the error or go into bios and its fine.

not every time though. really odd.

[ZenEffect]

I think 1.70+ is cause for concern


for 45nm cpu? i thought 1.54 was supposed to be about the max. this new maximus is overvolting like crazy... .1 for dram... .03 for nb... .11 for ppl... im just glad the fsb tops out at 550 on this one.

[Grnfinger]

for 45nm cpu? i thought 1.54 was supposed to be about the max. this new maximus is overvolting like crazy... .1 for dram... .03 for nb... .11 for ppl... im just glad the fsb tops out at 550 on this one.

Sorry I was thinking you were running your Quad 65nm, I do believe that 45nm is 1.50 but I do not have my pc handy atm so I cannot verify that.


Mechti;3125218']Here you can find the latest chipset-drivers:
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20chipset.htm

Thank you:up:

[MonsterDK]

What do these do in the BIOS:

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Relax Level 0

Thanks for any advice :)

[ZenEffect]

What do these do in the BIOS:

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Relax Level 0

Thanks for any advice :)

those are for memory tweaking. im not exactly sure how dram static read control and ai clock twister work but transaction booster is your "performance level"

[shimmishim]

Anyone using 2x1 crucial tracers either the 8000 or 8500 variant?

I have the older single sided D9's but I can't get them to boot.

If you do, what bios are you using? I'm on the 1201. Thanks!

[[IO]Mechti]

Hi,

I had the same problem with Vista 64bit, the latest chipset drivers solved the problem for me, you should give them a try.
I just saw that you have a raid0 and I can tell you that the Intel Matrix Storage Manager increased my performance of my raid hdds greatly.
You can find the latest drivers here http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm
bye

[ZenEffect]

so hasn't the rampage extreme just come out?? if so wouldnt a maximus extreme to rampage extreme conversion work?? I'll be the gunea pig if someone will get me a file with everything needed on it so I can just extract it to a usb drive and go to town, hook me up guys, these maximus extreme bios really suck and are seriously limiting my overclocks I know my E8500 has way more in it!

honestly... no. the difference in pwm will not allow you to cross flash. asus figured out what we were doing and put a stop to it.

how much are you being limited?

my maximus i can bench @ 5ghz w/ my e8500

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/95757.jpg

last night's run... zero tweaks. (ram @ auto)

[Grnfinger]

Mechti;3127084']Hi,

I just saw that you have a raid0 and I can tell you that the Intel Matrix Storage Manager increased my performance of my raid hdds greatly.
You can find the latest drivers here http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm
bye

Yes thank you for that handy tip, if you would care to read the whole post next time that would be great:shakes:

[shimmishim]

Does anyone know the voltage measuring points, vdimm vcore etc...?

i'd like to measure the voltages rather than use the bios or hw monitor.

[Zucker2k]

honestly... no. the difference in pwm will not allow you to cross flash. asus figured out what we were doing and put a stop to it.

how much are you being limited?

my maximus i can bench @ 5ghz w/ my e8500

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/95757.jpg

last night's run... zero tweaks. (ram @ auto)

That's a nice chip you got there Zen. Is that on water? I got 2xHD 4850s in crossfire, doing 22K in '06 with a Q9450 @ 3.8.

[iTravis]

Hey guys I just got the E8400 and I just wanna know what the max or stable clock you guys can get the E8400 on this board with air cooling? Just wondering since I don't know it's worth the hassle of swapping the CPU. Do you think I'll get better benching and gaming performance going from Q6600 to E8400?

[ZenEffect]

That's a nice chip you got there Zen. Is that on water? I got 2xHD 4850s in crossfire, doing 22K in '06 with a Q9450 @ 3.8.

phase change :cool:

i can get 22k in 06 w/ 2900pros and e8500 @ 5ghz :p:

[MonsterDK]

I was wondering who here has a Asus Maximus Formula and has managed to find their lowest Q6600 Vcore and PLL?

On a 3.6 OC

Water cooled. (including north)
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 1066MHz (air cooled)
Q6600

Can anyone advise me on anything better for settings?
I'm aiming for lower Voltages (where possible) and where also possible better performance without raising CPU FSB.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.3875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.26
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[Bhairava]

Hello to all, I mounted today maximus formula and I have big problems in oc.
The cpu is e7200 already tested on p5bdeluxe to 400x9.5 = 3800mhz. The rams are 2x1gb G.skill cas4, tested well up to 1020 mhz on p5bdeluxe. The bios of maximus formula is 1201.

Well, with the divisor set to 1:1 the system easily climb up to FSB = 397 (x9.5). More than that, the mobo does not boot. The only way to make it boot is to set the 3:4 divider, then FSB = 400, Ram = 1066. I have not tried yet stability in oc, but only the operation of mobo to boot. With the 4:3 divider mobo boots with no problems to 450, then ram in 1133. Clearly not even load the OS and gives me a nice Bsod, since the Rams can go so high, but at least boots! I want to understand why the motherboard does not boot with the 1:1 divider, beyond FSB=397.
Could it be a 1201 bios problem?

One more problem is that in the bios the "OC From CPU Level Up" is missing.
Thx in advance for your help.

[Talbo]

RF0403 Rocks

[dasc]

I tried removing the NB/SB heat sink by putting the mobo in the refrigerator freezer. It stayed there for about 2 hours and 45 minutes and I after that I could not remove the HS with "any real force".

What would you suggest - placing the mobo for another freeze session, buy the circuitcity freeze spray or try the hair dryer?

[zlojack]

I tried removing the NB/SB heat sink by putting the mobo in the refrigerator freezer. It stayed there for about 2 hours and 45 minutes and I after that I could not remove the HS with "any real force".

What would you suggest - placing the mobo for another freeze session, buy the circuitcity freeze spray or try the hair dryer?

Make sure all the pins are removed:D

I left mine in the freezer overnight. In the morning it popped off no problem.

[dasc]

Make sure all the pins are removed:D

I left mine in the freezer overnight. In the morning it popped off no problem.

I removed 4 pins from the NB and 2 from the SB. Are there any other?

My main cencern is that the low temperature decreases the life span of the mobo.

[zlojack]

I removed 4 pins from the NB and 2 from the SB. Are there any other?

My main cencern is that the low temperature decreases the life span of the mobo.
I can't remember if there are more. Look on the backside of the motherboard for any pins coming through.

Also, low temps decreasing the lifespan? I hadn't heard about that. It might do so, but mine is working just fine several months later.

[chawks2]

I left mine in the freezer overnight. In the morning it popped off no problem.

You have mighty big minerals to throw the board in the freezer for a long period of time. Arbitrarily decided on 80m in the fridge and using the blue ram slot as a fulcrum, popped off with no issue. My first fridge was a disaster, resulting in the death of 1 x PCIe slot and an eventual RMA. Glad to hear of your success tho. :up:

[zlojack]

You have mighty big minerals to throw the board in the freezer for a long period of time. Arbitrarily decided on 80m in the fridge and using the blue ram slot as a fulcrum, popped off with no issue. My first fridge was a disaster, resulting in the death of 1 x PCIe slot and an eventual RMA. Glad to hear of your success tho. :up:

Probably my n00bness in effect then.:D

I mean, a freezer isn't THAT cold. I wouldn't think it would adversely affect the board that much, but I've been known to be VERY wrong in the past.

[dasc]

I asked my gf to put the mobo in the freezer at 14:15 and when I got home around 18:00 I will give it another try.

Can someone define "real force"? There is not much space left around the SB as there are two compacitors on the opposite sides of heat sink? How am I supposed to move it?

[dasc]

You have mighty big minerals to throw the board in the freezer for a long period of time. Arbitrarily decided on 80m in the fridge and using the blue ram slot as a fulcrum, popped off with no issue. My first fridge was a disaster, resulting in the death of 1 x PCIe slot and an eventual RMA. Glad to hear of your success tho. :up:

According to C'DaleRider:
There are even companies that'll cryogenically freeze your electronics....supposed to align the molecular structure in all the metal to give better performance. Heard they do a lot of car parts for racing, too. (Pistons, rings, valves, metal brake rotors, etc. All for enhanced performance.)

[chawks2]

According to C'DaleRider:
There are even companies that'll cryogenically freeze your electronics....Heard they do a lot of car parts for racing, too. (Pistons, rings, valves, metal brake rotors, etc. All for enhanced performance.)

I dont believe comparing a motherboard to solid parts in a car is an effective analogy, JMO.

@ zlo, nothing wrong with what you did, just commenting on the length of time. Bottomline it worked for you and you can shed the shroud of n00bness. :D

[Grnfinger]

I dont believe comparing a motherboard to solid parts in a car is an effective analogy, JMO.

@ zlo, nothing wrong with what you did, just commenting on the length of time. Bottomline it worked for you and you can shed the shroud of n00bness. :D

I would have to agree with you on that one. I really cant see how comparing a motherboard to a rotor, and exactly how would freezing a rotor improve performance?

Zoljack, what version of Corsair ram do you have?
PM me if you want to part out with the other 4GBs, this GSkill kit sucks ass cant get them over 1081 and that took ALOT of work, this has to be the :banana::banana::banana::banana:tiest kit of ram I ever had

[zlojack]

Ok.. I'm getting stable with the E8400 at 4.2GHz (9 hours Small FFTs)

I flashed back to 0308 and there is definitely a bandwidth improvement.

Both with 5-5-5-15-tRFC 60 - tRD 7 (Twister Moderate)

Here's where I was with 0403:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zlojack/tRD7Corsair2x2GBE8400.png

And now with 0308:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zlojack/Bios0308ModeratetRD7.png

Now here's the same settings with Twister Stronger (gains in read and copy)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zlojack/Bios0308StrongertRD72.png



Zoljack, what version of Corsair ram do you have?
PM me if you want to part out with the other 4GBs, this GSkill kit sucks ass cant get them over 1081 and that took ALOT of work, this has to be the :banana::banana::banana::banana:tiest kit of ram I ever had

The Dominators TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF 4GB PC2-8500. I've had the Mushkin Redlines, the G.Skills PC2-8000, the ReaperX PC2-8000 and these ones have been the best of the lot. 8GB stable at 1133MHz at the settings listed above (now at 1122MHz and passed Memtest86+).

I'll PM you. ;)

[dasc]

I am officially a n00b.

Do you think the mobo will work? :)

[Flasker]

Is that a piece of the die missing or some leftover TIM? It's not really clear in the pic. If you pulled out a piece of the die then the mobo is cooked. If there's no damage to the NB you should be able to put it back together.

[Lestat]

I am officially a n00b.

Do you think the mobo will work? :)


wth are you talking about.
would be helpfull if you explained what you did.. cuz those pictures dont show anything..

[Lestat]

Anyone using 2x1 crucial tracers either the 8000 or 8500 variant?

I have the older single sided D9's but I can't get them to boot.

If you do, what bios are you using? I'm on the 1201. Thanks!

shim - i have ran the 8000 and 8500 single sided sets in my mobo and both booted fine without any issues.

but,, i didnt reset my settings, i think i was still on 2.0v or maybe 2.1,, but it definately was not 2.2v

USE THE WHITE RAM SLOTS

reset the bios totally, just wipe it clean,, then try and run them see what happens.


also in regards to your voltage measure points.

i have not seen anyone post much about this although this board has been out for a while so there is probably a post somewhere.

[dasc]

wth are you talking about.
would be helpfull if you explained what you did.. cuz those pictures dont show anything..

I put too much force and I opened the NB. The pictures show the upper piece of the die attached to the heat sink. It is weird that TIM used between the chip and die was dry and fragile. It was not making good contact with the NB chip. I applied some Artic Silver and put back the heat sink.

I just finished putting everything back in the case and the mobo can not post - I am getting a "CPU init" message on the LCD monitor.

[shimmishim]

shim - i have ran the 8000 and 8500 single sided sets in my mobo and both booted fine without any issues.

but,, i didnt reset my settings, i think i was still on 2.0v or maybe 2.1,, but it definately was not 2.2v

USE THE WHITE RAM SLOTS

reset the bios totally, just wipe it clean,, then try and run them see what happens.


also in regards to your voltage measure points.

i have not seen anyone post much about this although this board has been out for a while so there is probably a post somewhere.

Awesome. Will give it a shot... again.

I've searched google for it but can't find the measuring point. It obviously exists since it's been measured. It would have been nice if the OP had marked the measuring points in the first post.

[eSp!s0]

Allright, I found minimum voltages for my 515x7 1:1 settings with 1102 now and here they are:

BIOS 1102
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
FSB Frequency : 515
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1030
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Relax Level 1

CPU Voltage : 1.33750 1.320VCPU-z
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.31 1.33V Everest
DRAM Voltage : 1.90 1.94V Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 1.22V Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 1.06V Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
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E6750, 2x 2GB G.Skill GBPK (1066), Maximus Formula

[zlojack]

I put too much force and I opened the NB. The pictures show the upper piece of the die attached to the heat sink. It is weird that TIM used between the chip and die was dry and fragile. It was not making good contact with the NB chip. I applied some Artic Silver and put back the heat sink.

I just finished putting everything back in the case and the mobo can not post - I am getting a "CPU init" message on the LCD monitor.

Wow, you pulled off the NB IHS!!!:eek:

[Brama]

Wow, you pulled off the NB IHS!!!:eek:

And some piece of NB's silicon :(

[cadaveca]

Not silicon, but he crushed the substrate holding the silicon. That's one dead board. Should have used DIMM slots as fulcrum.

[dasc]

I used the Blue DIMM slot as Fulcrum and a piece of plastic from the cpu side. The heat sink was attached to the die so strong after more than 4 hours in the freezer.

I used real force with a screw-driver and a toothbrush from blue DIMM and I saw around 1/5 of the NB green pvc/pins detaching from the board. I thought the mobo will still work, but I was wrong. I wrapped the screwdriver around paper tower and I stick it between the green PVC and lower side the chip. I twisted the screwdriver and I saw some movement. I put some force on all sides the die came off attached to the heatsink.

I cleaned and reapplied the new TIM and put everything back, but the motherboard was already dead. When I start it up, it powers all the fans, but I only get "CPU INIT" on LCD and the lights on the ballistix tracers are not moving.

Do you think ASUS will send me a replacement?



Not silicon, but he crushed the substrate holding the silicon. That's one dead board. Should have used DIMM slots as fulcrum.

[zlojack]

Do you think ASUS will send me a replacement?

Doubtful, but it doesn't hurt to try. It's not working anyway.

[dasc]

Are they actually going to investigate like remove the heat sink and stuff? I bad thing is that I left 3 scratches on the green pvc.


Doubtful, but it doesn't hurt to try. It's not working anyway.

[OVERK|LL]

I used the Blue DIMM slot as Fulcrum and a piece of plastic from the cpu side. The heat sink was attached to the die so strong after more than 4 hours in the freezer.

I used real force with a screw-driver and a toothbrush from blue DIMM and I saw around 1/5 of the NB green pvc/pins detaching from the board. I thought the mobo will still work, but I was wrong. I wrapped the screwdriver around paper tower and I stick it between the green PVC and lower side the chip. I twisted the screwdriver and I saw some movement. I put some force on all sides the die came off attached to the heatsink.

I cleaned and reapplied the new TIM and put everything back, but the motherboard was already dead. When I start it up, it powers all the fans, but I only get "CPU INIT" on LCD and the lights on the ballistix tracers are not moving.

Do you think ASUS will send me a replacement?

I wouldn't blame them if they don't. They didn't send you a defective board, and it definitely didn't die a manufacturing-related death.

Good luck though!

[Grnfinger]

Ok.. I'm getting stable with the E8400 at 4.2GHz (9 hours Small FFTs)

I flashed back to 0308 and there is definitely a bandwidth improvement.

Both with 5-5-5-15-tRFC 60 - tRD 7 (Twister Moderate)

4300MHz 1147ram with Dram static enabled, twister strong, PL7

This is Maximus 1102 bios

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4300_1147ram.png

[Hockster]

Do you think ASUS will send me a replacement?

I hope not. You broke it knowing full well what you were doing. Man up and eat it. making everyone else pay is lame.

[MonsterDK]

I was wondering who here has a Asus Maximus Formula and has managed to find their lowest Q6600 Vcore and PLL?

On a 3.6 OC

Water cooled. (including north)
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 1066MHz (air cooled)
Q6600

Can anyone advise me on anything better for settings?
I'm aiming for lower Voltages (where possible) and where also possible better performance without raising CPU FSB.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.3875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.26
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Can anyone please help me with the quoted above. I'll be very much greatful.

[iTravis]

You guys have any recommendations for a 2x2GB set that works fine with this board? It seems the OCing capability is limited due to 4x1GB sticks. :(

[dasc]

I thought you guys were on my side!?


Can anyone please help me with the quoted above. I'll be very much greatful.

[cadaveca]

We are, but you screwed it up. Not saying I've never been there, but I got a collection of dead parts to remind me to be cautious.


BTW, I was the one who originally meantioned freezing the board to remove the heatsink. It worked a treat for me. I noticed that my RMA board was frozen when I got it(was still winter here, board had condensation on it), and it came off with ease.

Now, today I had the chance to play with another board, and IT was much harder to remove than my first, but still it just popped right off.

Mind you both time, the board had not been run for very long, allowing the tim to set.

Mind you, in the end, my boards are SE's, not the regular boards, so that might have something to do with it...

[JKad]

I just dumped Vista SP1 and installed XP pro for the first time on my MF. I have an unknown device identified as "on Intel(R) ICH9R LPC Interface Controller - 2916". All of the add on devices are installed and working properly (unlike on Vista). I downloaded the Intel chipset install utility, the soundmax drivers, Intel matrix manager for my raid HDs, etc. I have not loaded the Asus drivers from the CD. This device has to be something on the motherboard not recognized by XP. Can someone shed any light on what this could be?

[philbrown23]

honestly... no. the difference in pwm will not allow you to cross flash. asus figured out what we were doing and put a stop to it.

how much are you being limited?

my maximus i can bench @ 5ghz w/ my e8500

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/95757.jpg

last night's run... zero tweaks. (ram @ auto)

what bios are you using? no tweaks at all? mine will hit 4.7ghz but wil only bench at 4.5ghz and it's flaky then, and I have to put the voltage right to it.

[dasc]

I used mine for about 6 months and I freezed it twice for 3 and 4-5 hours. If I ever get a replacement, the first thing I am going to do is to put it the freezer.

I am going to place an order for ASUS P5Q Deluxe this weekend, so I will have something to play with(without trying to remove the heatsink). P5Q Deluxe has only two fan connector which I don't like.

Newegg has XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm for $26.99 after $10.00 Mail-In
Rebate + FS. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003. Does some know if it fits P5Q Deluxe and miximus formula?


We are, but you screwed it up. Not saying I've never been there, but I got a collection of dead parts to remind me to be cautious.


BTW, I was the one who originally meantioned freezing the board to remove the heatsink. It worked a treat for me. I noticed that my RMA board was frozen when I got it(was still winter here, board had condensation on it), and it came off with ease.

Now, today I had the chance to play with another board, and IT was much harder to remove than my first, but still it just popped right off.

Mind you both time, the board had not been run for very long, allowing the tim to set.

Mind you, in the end, my boards are SE's, not the regular boards, so that might have something to do with it...

[shimmishim]

You guys have any recommendations for a 2x2GB set that works fine with this board? It seems the OCing capability is limited due to 4x1GB sticks. :(

I use the G.Skill 2x2GB PC2-8000 4GBPQ

They were around 75 or so from newegg a while back. I think they're still the same price.

[ZenEffect]

what bios are you using? no tweaks at all? mine will hit 4.7ghz but wil only bench at 4.5ghz and it's flaky then, and I have to put the voltage right to it.

what cooling are you using? ive got a ss phase on my cpu. perhaps that is what accounting for higher cpu. also im on maximus formula... though i flashed to rampage for higher fsb. just ran a quick test tonight.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=387905
max fsb.


I thought you guys were on my side!?

we were! right up until the point to where you broke your hardware in such a way that asus would actually care about the warranty. :rofl:

stop trying to ruin it for the rest of us :p:

[iTravis]

I use the G.Skill 2x2GB PC2-8000 4GBPQ

They were around 75 or so from newegg a while back. I think they're still the same price.

I notice your sig that you used to have 4x1GB Crucial sticks like mine and you're now running the 2x2GB G.Skill? Do you notice any differences?
It's $84.99 on newegg and have such great reviews. I'll grab that to replace my 4x1GB sticks. :up:
Thank you! :D

[TheScavenger]

I notice your sig that you used to have 4x1GB Crucial sticks like mine and you're now running the 2x2GB G.Skill? Do you notice any differences?
It's $84.99 on newegg and have such great reviews. I'll grab that to replace my 4x1GB sticks. :up:
Thank you! :D

I'm curious as well...

[shimmishim]

I'm curious as well...

For everyday use and what not... no, I don't notice anything different.

If I were to bench my system then yes I would notice a difference as I used tighter subtimings with my crucials since they were a very nice set of D9's.

I like mine a lot and I'm going to run 2x2 until 4x2 becomes more popular and prevalent.

[Grnfinger]

I just dumped Vista SP1 and installed XP pro for the first time on my MF. I have an unknown device identified as "on Intel(R) ICH9R LPC Interface Controller - 2916". All of the add on devices are installed and working properly (unlike on Vista). I downloaded the Intel chipset install utility, the soundmax drivers, Intel matrix manager for my raid HDs, etc. I have not loaded the Asus drivers from the CD. This device has to be something on the motherboard not recognized by XP. Can someone shed any light on what this could be?

Stick your Asus mobo disk in and it will fix itself

[HousERaT]

Can some say whether or not the Rampage mod gives this board better fsb? Sorry if this question was asked before.

[JKad]

Stick your Asus mobo disk in and it will fix itself

Yeah, I sort of figured that. I really don't want to install all the Asus stuff if I can avoid it. Most of the drivers on the CD are old and have been replaced. I thought someone would have run into this and had an idea what to look for. Thanks for the reply though--

[jrs2008]

hi all, im new here


i got this new xeon e3110 and mushkin ram to go with my maximus and i cant overclock this thing. i dont really know much about ocing. can anyone help me? i wanted to get 4 ghz but i cant even get 3.6 ghz and i have been trying for 2 weeks. i am using bios 1004. should i get newer bios?

here are the settings i was trying to use:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8725/mysettingsjz7.jpg

here are my specs

Mobo: maximus formula
CPU: Xeon e3110 w/ thermalrite ultra 120
Ram: 2X2 GB Mushkin Ascent pc2-8500
GPU: 3870x2 / 3870 crossfire

please help

[trt740]

Can some say whether or not the Rampage mod gives this board better fsb? Sorry if this question was asked before.

I can and yes it does

[HousERaT]

I can and yes it does
What was your experience like? +10Mhz, +20Mhz? More?

[trt740]

What was your experience like? +10Mhz, +20Mhz? More?

505 to 550fsb

[philbrown23]

what cooling are you using? ive got a ss phase on my cpu. perhaps that is what accounting for higher cpu. also im on maximus formula... though i flashed to rampage for higher fsb. just ran a quick test tonight.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=387905
max fsb.


I am using TEC cooling at 4.7ghz my cpu will hit 20c benching load 25c prime load. deos the high pll voltage set it up so you dont need so much cpu voltage??

[iTravis]

For everyday use and what not... no, I don't notice anything different.

If I were to bench my system then yes I would notice a difference as I used tighter subtimings with my crucials since they were a very nice set of D9's.

I like mine a lot and I'm going to run 2x2 until 4x2 becomes more popular and prevalent.

That's what I expect also since I don't really think there are any advantages besides benching (well it's just 4GB of memory anyway :rolleyes:). I can run my Q6600 just fine at 3.5 Ghz, 3.6Ghz is not stable with OCCT but I can still use it daily without any problems. I coulnd't pass the test because my temps are too high and I think that's the only reason, guess I'll just keep 4 Crucial sticks for now as they still serve me just fine and I definitely love the LED on them. :D

[HousERaT]

505 to 550fsb
+45Mhz. That's a nice improvement. If I can get half of that I'll be happy. Thank you for the insight.

[Oldtimer2]

Hi guys, I got the P5E deluxe X48 and i have been trying to flash bios with USB drive and AFUDOS ES and it wont work i type command in dos promt and it says cant open rom file i have tried several bios from Rampage and no go?? tried fat fat 32 different usb slots, I thought this was easy but not for my board. the bios im am running now is P5E0105.rom.

[Grnfinger]

Yeah, I sort of figured that. I really don't want to install all the Asus stuff if I can avoid it. Most of the drivers on the CD are old and have been replaced. I thought someone would have run into this and had an idea what to look for. Thanks for the reply though--

I didnt say install anything just put the cd in the tray,

[Zucker2k]

I didnt say install anything just put the cd in the tray,

Yeah, it's most likely the ATK driver's missing.

[JKad]

I didnt say install anything just put the cd in the tray,

Yes, that did it. I didn't install anything but obviously something came off the CD and fixed the problem. Curiosity--does anyone know what device this is related to, what the driver is, etc???

Sorry I didn't just follow your instructions. I've never seen a problem fixed this way.

[JKad]

Yeah, it's most likely the ATK driver's missing.

ATK???

[Grnfinger]

Yes, that did it. I didn't install anything but obviously something came off the CD and fixed the problem. Curiosity--does anyone know what device this is related to, what the driver is, etc???

Sorry I didn't just follow your instructions. I've never seen a problem fixed this way.

It is odd but it works:D

ATK is a virtual device ACPI driver

[JKad]

It is odd but it works:D

ATK is a virtual device ACPI driver

Confirmed that the ATK driver was added to the system today at around the time I put the CD in the tray and retracted the tray into the computer. Very strange that it automatically loaded this driver.

Thanks for your direction. I figured that someone here must have run into this. Perhaps this would be a good add to the first post.

[ZenEffect]

+45Mhz. That's a nice improvement. If I can get half of that I'll be happy. Thank you for the insight.

450 to 570 here. :cool:

[HousERaT]

450 to 570 here. :cool:
That's a nice increase. How high are you able to boot at?

[chad]

Guys Please Help.....

Ive been trying for hours to flash my bios using the steps on page 1 to the rampage. After i boot into dos i type the command and it says" It cant read the .rom file". Any ideas? I have done this before im not a noob:rolleyes:

Second problem. Rapidshare isnt letting me download :confused: Does anyone have the 1004 bios for the formula??? (That is the best one right) It isnt on the asus website. Good news is that my raid is hooked up, and the matrix slice is flying:D

[Grnfinger]

Guys Please Help.....

Ive been trying for hours to flash my bios using the steps on page 1 to the rampage. After i boot into dos i type the command and it says" It cant read the .rom file". Any ideas? I have done this before im not a noob:rolleyes:

Second problem. Rapidshare isnt letting me download :confused: Does anyone have the 1004 bios for the formula??? (That is the best one right) It isnt on the asus website. Good news is that my raid is hooked up, and the matrix slice is flying:D

well if you followed the steps then it would work
More information is required to help you.
rapidshare works for me, but if your trying to flash to Rampage then why are you looking for 1004 bios?

[chad]

Hi Grnfinger, I read many of your posts in this topic yesterday and wanted to say thanks for the overclocking tips on the q6600. Rapidshare is telling me that my ip is currently downloading a file and I need to wait:confused: I wanted the 1004 bios to make sure that ezflasher is even working. I purchased this motherboard for raid, which is running wonderful. A great overclock is just icing on the cake

Im going to run prime on these current clocks:) I have a feeling I have some room but will hit the fsb wall with out a reflash, this is why I wanted the 1004 bios. So do you have a link for me please.

http://images109.fotki.com/v784/filezxRg/2f158/1/115964/5629155/1_48.jpg

[Grnfinger]

first time using skydrive it should work for you

http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/MF1004.zip

[ZenEffect]

That's a nice increase. How high are you able to boot at?

567 ;)

seems this nb needs some cold to push 600fsb. :cool:

[chad]

first time using skydrive it should work for you

http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/MF1004.zip


Thank you, Ill post my results:up:

[Grnfinger]

567 ;)

seems this nb needs some cold to push 600fsb. :cool:

yeah yeah rub it in:D

you wait till I sell my wife errr I mean old pc and get my new cooling:up:

[ZenEffect]

yeah yeah rub it in:D

you wait till I sell my wife errr I mean old pc and get my new cooling:up:

i switched to phase change now. :D

just playing w/ e8500's exclusively pretty much. way more fun @ 5ghz vs 4ghz quad. ;)
getting another new one later in the week. hopefully can push the new one higher than my current one.

i thought they were going to send me a pos abused mobo from rma... seems they sent me a real gem.

[HousERaT]

567 ;)

seems this nb needs some cold to push 600fsb. :cool:
That's sweet. Is that on air or colder?

[ZenEffect]

That's sweet. Is that on air or colder?

just on air.

[Oldtimer2]

Guys Please Help.....

Ive been trying for hours to flash my bios using the steps on page 1 to the rampage. After i boot into dos i type the command and it says" It cant read the .rom file". Any ideas? I have done this before im not a noob:rolleyes:

Second problem. Rapidshare isnt letting me download :confused: Does anyone have the 1004 bios for the formula??? (That is the best one right) It isnt on the asus website. Good news is that my raid is hooked up, and the matrix slice is flying:D I have the same trouble?? please help me figure this out, i was using Rampage 0403 bios and 0401 each time it say cant read Rom file??

[ZenEffect]

I have the same trouble?? please help me figure this out, i was using Rampage 0403 bios and 0401 each time it say cant read Rom file??

its case sensitive. plus make sure you use all the switches /pbnc /n

[HousERaT]

I just did the flash. Make sure that the /iRF0403.ROM looks like that. It didn't work the first time for me because I didn't use caps.

Anyone care to put up their Rampage settings for a wolfdale, high fsb and D9GHM memory?

[chad]

Ive tried every single rampage bios, and still cant get it to flash in dos. Can anyone give us two some insight on how to clear this up. Well I tried the 1004 maximus bios and that was a big mistake, unstable, random restarts. I then went a head a tried the 1201, I had the same issues with this also. I am going back to 907 untill I get this rampage issue sorted out:confused: I even renamed the rom file to "1.rom" and that still didnt work "afudos/i1.rom/pbnc/n" no good On the brighter side raid is workinghttp://images39.fotki.com/v1236/fileDuW1/653df/1/115964/5629155/1000.jpg

[ZenEffect]

Ive tried every single rampage bios, and still cant get it to flash in dos. Can anyone give us two some insight on how to clear this up. Well I tried the 1004 maximus bios and that was a big mistake, unstable, random restarts. I then went a head a tried the 1201, I had the same issues with this also. I am going back to 907 untill I get this rampage issue sorted out:confused: I even renamed the rom file to "1.rom" and that still didnt work "afudos/i1.rom/pbnc/n" no good
use spaces

aufdos /i1rom.rom /pbnc /n

[Lestat]

nevermind i am an idiot i need to read the 1st post
(this is a prime example of why i have that Stewie gif in my sig)

[Oldtimer2]

use spaces

aufdos /i1rom.rom /pbnc /n

That worked THANKYOU something so simple, now I have Rampage bios 0403

[Lestat]

Ive tried every single rampage bios, and still cant get it to flash in dos. Can anyone give us two some insight on how to clear this up. Well I tried the 1004 maximus bios and that was a big mistake, unstable, random restarts. I then went a head a tried the 1201, I had the same issues with this also. I am going back to 907 untill I get this rampage issue sorted out:confused: I even renamed the rom file to "1.rom" and that still didnt work "afudos/i1.rom/pbnc/n" no good On the brighter side raid is working




your drive speeds are all over the space...!!?? (what do you have 2x60gb drives in raid zero? 102gigs, thats a wierd number)
this is typical if you do not have the intel storage matrix manager installed and write back cache ENABLED.
you need to install that then enable advanced mode then right click each of the arrays you created and enable write back cache...

also use HDTune not HDTach, HDTune is a much more accurate test.
takes longer but its a better test.
I've seen HDTach give some pretty wacko results.
look at yours.. those speeds, 500mb/sec 400mb/sec are impossible.. no drive is that fast in terms of Sata.
and you have no sustained speed either, its just all over the place. (which is probably the write caching issue.

these pictures show my setup (i believe the sharp dips in my tests are because i have multiple partitions in my Raptor setup)
3x 36gb Raptors in raid 0 and 2x 500gb in raid Zero
write caching enabled.

[chad]

Praise the lord:yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp:
It worked!!!! I forgot to put the space after "pbnc/n" "pbnc /n" Oh man what a day. I have 4xWD 3200aaks, that was with the 100gb matrix slice. That was the quick bench in hdtach. Thanks guys problem solved:clap:

[Grnfinger]

I just did the flash. Make sure that the /iRF0403.ROM looks like that. It didn't work the first time for me because I didn't use caps.

Anyone care to put up their Rampage settings for a wolfdale, high fsb and D9GHM memory?

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 489
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1174
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled


CPU Voltage : set what your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.53
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/stable_4400.jpg

[zlojack]

4300MHz 1147ram with Dram static enabled, twister strong, PL7

This is Maximus 1102 bios

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4300_1147ram.png

Is that with the G.Skills?

[Grnfinger]

yes,
volts to 2.12 ( bios ) = 2.2 actual
trfc to 55/60

they get very hot without any cooling so I have a fan blowing on them, they seem to clock well just need alot of volts to go beyond stock settings

[zlojack]

yes,
volts to 2.12 ( bios ) = 2.2 actual
trfc to 55/60

they get very hot without any cooling so I have a fan blowing on them, they seem to clock well just need alot of volts to go beyond stock settings

Nice stuff.

I'll have to play with my sticks a bit more. They don't seem to want to post at tighter timings beyond about 470 FSB.

I'd love to see your settings for that bandwidth!

[chad]

Is that with the G.Skills?

Those are nice clocks Grnfinger are those with these. If not can you give me a link:cool:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

[Grnfinger]

Nice stuff.

I'll have to play with my sticks a bit more. They don't seem to want to post at tighter timings beyond about 470 FSB.

I'd love to see your settings for that bandwidth!

I'll post them shortly, wating on Asus atm and I'm home alone with 2 kids:eek:


Those are nice clocks Grnfinger are those with these. If not can you give me a link:cool:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166


yes thats them

[cadaveca]

2 Kids. LoL. 4 of my own now, 6 later in the day. Ain't life grand? :rofl:

[zlojack]

^^ Ooh... that's tough.

Well, I hope Asus plays nice. I'll be waiting to hear from you.

That's why my wife and I only have one kid...that way we're never outnumbered!

[Zucker2k]

^^ Ooh... that's tough.

Well, I hope Asus plays nice. I'll be waiting to hear from you.

That's why my wife and I only have one kid...that way we're never outnumbered!

:rofl: Seems like you still have room for one, going by that logic.

[zlojack]

:rofl: Seems like you still have room for one, going by that logic.

Ah...but then we can never be separated...:D

[Zucker2k]

Ah...but then we can never be separated...:D

Gotcha! :up:

[ZenEffect]

if i ever have kids im going to name them AS5, DFi, or Asus...

[Grnfinger]

if i ever have kids im going to name them AS5, DFi, or Asus...

I was thinking on changing mine to Dimm 1 and Dimm 2 :rofl:

[Zucker2k]

I was thinking on changing mine to Dimm 1 and Dimm 2 :rofl:

BSOD anyone?

[Malik]

Short question: I have 0907 bios - it's worth change him to 1102 ?

[Grnfinger]

BSOD anyone?

BAHAHAHA:ROTF:


Short question: I have 0907 bios - it's worth change him to 1102 ?


I find 1102 a decent bios, never really played with 907, went straight to 1004, the 9 series did not play well with my hardware.

[ChaosAD]

Since i have managed to be stable at 3,6Ghz for a long period of time, now that i have ordered my new MF cooling parts i think i m gonna try 3,8Ghz. Anyone has to post 100% stable settings for Q6600 and MF with rampage bios? I managed to run 9x420 (3,78Ghz) small FFTs with 1,49 cpuv for about an hour just for testing, but blend was not more than 20 min stable.

[Grnfinger]

Since i have managed to be stable at 3,6Ghz for a long period of time, now that i have ordered my new MF cooling parts i think i m gonna try 3,8Ghz. Anyone has to post 100% stable settings for Q6600 and MF with rampage bios? I managed to run 9x420 (3,78Ghz) small FFTs with 1,49 cpuv for about an hour just for testing, but blend was not more than 20 min stable.

Here you go


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.46
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3800final.jpg

[Malik]

I find 1102 a decent bios, never really played with 907, went straight to 1004, the 9 series did not play well with my hardware.

I have heard that this bios 1102 make a few problems - it's that true ?

[Grnfinger]

I have heard that this bios 1102 make a few problems - it's that true ?

I like 1102 no problems for me. I found 1201 was the problem bios.
Ran 1102 @ very high FSB for alittle over a week without any issues.

[Barr3l Rid3r]

I like 1102 no problems for me. I found 1201 was the problem bios.
Ran 1102 @ very high FSB for alittle over a week without any issues.

I've liked it also, mannaged 533Mhz fsb 1:1 w/ 4GB Patriot DDR800 C4 2.2V @1066Mhz 2.22V


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 533
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6


DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled

Common Performance Level [1]


CPU Voltage : 1.56 (crap CPU)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.53
North Bridge Voltage : 1.37V (nice)
DRAM Voltage : 2.08 (2.22V Real be careful w/ this board! it really migh fry your RAM)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24 (sweet)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[t_ski]

Anybody have some recommended setting for a QX9650 in this board? Running it with some G.Skill PC2-1000 (2x2GB).

Barr3l Rid3r, I'd be interested in your memory settings as well if you have tested that ram in this board.

Also: Does anybody have any suggestions on low-profile air-coolers for the SB chipset? I need something that won't interfere with my 4870X2 cards :D

[zlojack]

I'll post them shortly, wating on Asus atm and I'm home alone with 2 kids:eek:


When you get a chance:D

I'd love to see what you used to break the 1GB bandwidth.

Are they stable 24/7?

[Flak]

I'm using bios 1102
q6600 g0 - vid 1.325
3.4ghz (8x425)
1.45v in bios (occt read 1.43 in windows)
68/68/65/65 running small ffts on all cores 100% usage

this is with a vendetta 2 using a san ace. I can't get it stable at 3.6ghz with any type of voltage. Did I get a crap q6600 and should I be worried about those full load temps?

[OVERK|LL]

Prime Stable problems :(

I tried doing 400x9 on my Q6600 and I got up into the high 1.5x's in terms of CPU voltage and it still wasn't stable for more than 30 minutes.

I was using Grnfinger's settings (my settings are in BOLD:



Here you go


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133 Mine was 9-something, RAM will bench stable for HOURS in memtest at 1,113, so I know this isn't the issue
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7] = Mine was at 4 before, but I dropped it to 7 to see if it would help

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.46 I had this up to almost 1.6 but gave up
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 brought this up to 1.55 and it didn't seem to help
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X Have not checked this
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X Have not checked this
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

I'm now down to 3.43Ghz at 62 degrees according to RealTemp under full load and it hasn't died yet.... This is 380Mhz FSB, most of the settings the same except for 1.475V on the CPU

[Grnfinger]

When you get a chance:D

I'd love to see what you used to break the 1GB bandwidth.

Are they stable 24/7?

Sorry I forgot, I'll post them today after work and yes there stable:D
Gotta get a new clamp for my NB block small leak so I had to shut it down till I can get it fixed

[ChaosAD]

I'm using bios 1102
q6600 g0 - vid 1.325
3.4ghz (8x425)
1.45v in bios (occt read 1.43 in windows)
68/68/65/65 running small ffts on all cores 100% usage

this is with a vendetta 2 using a san ace. I can't get it stable at 3.6ghz with any type of voltage. Did I get a crap q6600 and should I be worried about those full load temps?

My previous Q6600 had also vid 1.325. It was a crap. I needed 1.41v real to be small fft stable @ 8x425. I tried 3.6Ghz many times either 9x400 or 8x450 with up to 1.51v real if i remmember correct. Still failed Small ffts so i dropped the tries.
I had about the same temps before WC. With my IFX14 used to be in the 65-68C range with 1.41v real.

[ChaosAD]

Here you go



Thanx for the quick answer. I ll try this when back home and i ll report back. What is your NBv real like and what temps idle/load? I also see that u use 1.46v in bios and windows read 1.46v aslo for the cpu. First time i see something like this. Any MB mods?

[zlojack]

Sorry I forgot, I'll post them today after work and yes there stable:D
Gotta get a new clamp for my NB block small leak so I had to shut it down till I can get it fixed

Awesome, thanks!:up:

[HousERaT]

Grnfinger: Thank you for posting your Rampage bios specs. I'm doing some good things over here because of it. :up:

[Hockster]

I dumped my overheated, barely OCable quad. I zipped down to my local store, E8400's had taken a nice price cut. Of course they were sold out when I got thee, but the E8500's had taken an even larger instore cut.:D Installed new processor, made sure everything worked, rebooted into BIOS, left absolutely everything auto, set 400 FSB, and booted back into Windows. CPu voltage on auto is 1.26, I'll try and drop that bit when I get more time to play.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/390434.png (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=390434)

No Prime or OCCT tested yet, but 6 hours of Age of Conan is good enough for me.

[Grnfinger]

Awesome, thanks!:up:

Sorry for the delay, had a cracked NB barb, pissed water all over the case.
No hardware loss:D
So I finally get the pc back up last night and the forums are down:ROTF:

Anyways here are the ram settings

Clock Skew set both to Advanced 250ps

CAS# Latency - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay - 5
RAS# PRE Time - 5
RAS# ACT time - 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay - 4
Ref Cycle Time - 55
Write Recovery Time - 6
READ to PRE Time - 4

READ to Write Delay (S/D) - 9
WRITE to READ Delay (S) - 5
WRITE to READ Delay (D) - 5
READ to READ Delay (S) - 4
READ to READ Delay (S) - 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S) - 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D) - 6


Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5


DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

hope that helps

[zlojack]

Thanks man!

I'll give that a test run tonight.

[ShawnTRD]

Been out of the loop for awhile guys. How can I go back to a earlier BIOS? Thought I would try 1201 and now I want my 0907 (or do you recommend another one).

[ShawnTRD]

F it!! I went on a Rampage.

[Grnfinger]

Been out of the loop for awhile guys. How can I go back to a earlier BIOS? Thought I would try 1201 and now I want my 0907 (or do you recommend another one).

Afudos will allow you to flash any version.
So will Asus Update if you check the box in the options menu

[OVERK|LL]

Afudos will allow you to flash any version.
So will Asus Update if you check the box in the options menu

Grnfinger:
Any insight on my 3.43Ghz limit?

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger:
Any insight on my 3.43Ghz limit?

Try this

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55 ( 30 for 2GB's)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.475 ( you may need to adjust this)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 ( I have 4GBs you may need less)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[ShawnTRD]

Hey Grnfinger I tried the memory setting you just advised without any luck. So most the advanced settings are back to normal.

(0403 Rampage BIOS)
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T (mine says 2N) Why?
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO

Write to PRE Delay : AUTO
Read to PRE Delay : AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay : AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.318
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41 ( I have 2GBs now with 2 more coming)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.34
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

And here is what Memset says my settings are at. Anything I should tweak?

[OVERK|LL]

Grnfinger: I have MOST of those settings (besides the RAM, it seems to be fine the way it is), but I had not changed GTL Reference, how much of a difference does this make?

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger: I have MOST of those settings (besides the RAM, it seems to be fine the way it is), but I had not changed GTL Reference, how much of a difference does this make?

higher FSB for your CPU,
Maximus has a CPU GTL of 63 Rampage has 67 and it allowed for much higher clocks for me, I could get my wolfdale at around 535-540 where it would max out on Maximus at around 500

[OVERK|LL]

higher FSB for your CPU,
Maximus has a CPU GTL of 63 Rampage has 67 and it allowed for much higher clocks for me, I could get my wolfdale at around 535-540 where it would max out on Maximus at around 500

Interesting!

I'm going to print those settings off and try 'em.

Wish me luck!

-Chris

[Grnfinger]

Hey Grnfinger I tried the memory setting you just advised without any luck. So most the advanced settings are back to normal.

(0403 Rampage BIOS)
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T (mine says 2N) Why?
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO

Write to PRE Delay : AUTO
Read to PRE Delay : AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay : AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.318
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41 ( I have 2GBs now with 2 more coming)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.34
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

And here is what Memset says my settings are at. Anything I should tweak?

Looking at it now I'll post any suggestions shortly

[OVERK|LL]

Nope, she won't post at 450. Damn thing!

[Grnfinger]

Nope, she won't post at 450. Damn thing!

whats LCD poster saying?

[OVERK|LL]

whats LCD poster saying?

Our favourite :D

DET RAM

[faithful10]

#OverkIll

Can you try change: DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900 to auto instead if you not already have tried. I can not post then i select the speed even though it boots just fine on the same speed then using auto

[OVERK|LL]

No, I have not tried auto, will try it right now.

[OVERK|LL]

OK, it WILL NOT post at 450x8, BUT, it posts no problem at 400x9, and now with those updated settings from Grnfinger, it's priming and hasn't calfed yet. I had to boot into Windows (was in Linux before) and so I'll just stay in Windows now for a while and see how this goes...... It's HOT (two cores are 72, two others are 69 in Real Temp) but that's on small FFT, and it never gets anywhere near this kind of CPU usage during normal use in Linux. It runs WCG/SETI at 40% all the time, so always runs cooler.

RAM is now at 960-something. I had the choice of 960-something and 1280 and I somehow doubt my RAM will do 1280....

Funny part is, my CPU voltage is still at 1.475, I haven't changed it. So it had to be something else that was causing the instability before, and not the CPU voltage......

[ZenEffect]

nb needs more giggawatts!

[OVERK|LL]

nb needs more giggawatts!

So it's NB voltage that needs to go up for it to post at 450? I have the stock cooler on it.......

[OVERK|LL]

UPDATE: Rebooted by itself after "successfully completed 8K self-test" and had started again...... About 20 minutes uptime under full load. So I bumped the CPU voltage up one notch (it's at 1.48xx now) and started again.

-Chris

EDIT: Voltage in CPU-Z is 1.464 under full load with it set at 1.48x in the BIOS...... :D

[Grnfinger]

UPDATE: Rebooted by itself after "successfully completed 8K self-test" and had started again...... About 20 minutes uptime under full load. So I bumped the CPU voltage up one notch (it's at 1.48xx now) and started again.

-Chris

EDIT: Voltage in CPU-Z is 1.464 under full load with it set at 1.48x in the BIOS...... :D

Very good keep us posted.
I run 1.53 NB volts for 4x2GB's running 2x1GBs I only need 1.47NB volts
If your getting a Det dram hang you will need to adjust PL level, your ram will play a major roll in this depending on the spd. try PL 8 or higher and see if it boots.

BTW running auto for any setting is not a good idea, its better to place all values manually.

[OVERK|LL]

Very good keep us posted.
I run 1.53 NB volts for 4x2GB's running 2x1GBs I only need 1.47NB volts
If your getting a Det dram hang you will need to adjust PL level, your ram will play a major roll in this depending on the spd. try PL 8 or higher and see if it boots.

BTW running auto for any setting is not a good idea, its better to place all values manually.

Dude, you are awesome!!! Changed PL to 8 and it booted right up at 450x8!!!!

NB is at 1.49 right now CPU back at 1.475, everything else relevant is as you posted.

Its now cooler at 450x8 than it was at 400x9?????? 68 and 66.......... (under small FFT)

[Grnfinger]

Dude, you are awesome!!! Changed PL to 8 and it booted right up at 450x8!!!!

NB is at 1.49 right now CPU back at 1.475, everything else relevant is as you posted.

Its now cooler at 450x8 than it was at 400x9?????? 68 and 66.......... (under small FFT)

Ahh shucks:D

Glad its working for you:up:

[ZenEffect]

now try pull ins to get back to 7 ;)

[OVERK|LL]

now try pull ins to get back to 7 ;)

Interesting idea..... I remember I was doing this before when I was running 3.0Ghz, and using them to get to 6......

I went and grabbed an Athlon 2400+ fan from my pile, and am using that on my RAM and NB now (it's good sized, JUST fits below my HSF) and now the NB and RAM are cool to the touch. I had broke my Athlon fan that I was using on my RAM before, so I wedged the ASUS NB cooler fan (the "optional" one that comes with the board) in between the DIMM's but noticed the ram was STILL hot to the touch with that on there, whereas with the fan previously, they were cold. It obviously was not moving enough air. I wonder if this was causing some stability issues as well? I dunno.

Thing is still priming!!!

And CPU voltage is still at 1.475. It NEVER ran this long before (at 3.6Ghz). It's well into it's second 8K batch now......... but I bumped NB up to 1.51 and FSB Term to 1.42 I think when it rebooted the last time.

[OVERK|LL]

OK, seems it's stable on the small FFT tests now, but if I go to run BLEND, it locks solid within seconds.............. I know this is RAM related, but the RAM used to run 1113Mhz on PL6 at 3.0Ghz on BLEND all day long..... So does this mean it's NB voltage?

[Grnfinger]

OK, seems it's stable on the small FFT tests now, but if I go to run BLEND, it locks solid within seconds.............. I know this is RAM related, but the RAM used to run 1113Mhz on PL6 at 3.0Ghz on BLEND all day long..... So does this mean it's NB voltage?

most likely, try bumping the NB volts and see if it runs alittle longer
Do you have memtest pro? it can test the ram in windows separate from the cpu and can pinpoint erros rather quickly

[OVERK|LL]

OK, I have it at 1.53V on the NB now and running BLEND. It hasn't frozen.............yet.

[ShawnTRD]

Very good keep us posted.
I run 1.53 NB volts for 4x2GB's running 2x1GBs I only need 1.47NB volts
If your getting a Det dram hang you will need to adjust PL level, your ram will play a major roll in this depending on the spd. try PL 8 or higher and see if it boots.

BTW running auto for any setting is not a good idea, its better to place all values manually.

PL 8 or higher? What PL??

[Grnfinger]

PL 8 or higher? What PL??

That was for overkill,
I have some ram settngs you can try , will post them is few mins just updating my X-FI card

See how this works for you

CAS# Latency - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay - 5
RAS# PRE Time - 5
RAS# ACT time - 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay - 3
Ref Cycle Time - 30
Write Recovery Time -6
READ to PRE Time -3

READ to Write Delay (S/D) - 8
WRITE to READ Delay (S) - 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D) - 5
READ to READ Delay (S) - 4
READ to READ Delay (S) - 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S) - 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D) - 6

DRAM Static Read Control - Enabled
Ai Clock Twister - Strong
Transaction Booster - Disabled
Relax Level - 0

[OVERK|LL]

OK, it's not freezing under BLEND now. I think I'll play with the pull-ins.

-Chris

[OVERK|LL]

Looks like I'm stuck at PL8 with pull-ins off. Funny thing is, it primed on BLEND for 30 minutes no problem and then I turned on ALL the pull-ins, booted into Windows, ran BLEND, it froze after like 10 seconds, then turned them all off. And booted into Windows. Ran BLEND, then it froze again after a minute!!! WTF???? So, bumped it up to 1.55 with all the pull-ins enabled, and it froze. Turned them all off, booted into Windows and then froze after like 5 minutes. SO, now it's at 1.58, and we'll see if it freezes...............

[ShawnTRD]

Grnfinger I have the Common Performance Level now with the Rampage BIOS. Hows that differ from the Relax Level?

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger I have the Common Performance Level now with the Rampage BIOS. Hows that differ from the Relax Level?

On rampage bios you can manually set PL level instead of maximus setting it for you, maximus relax level will raise or lower pl level depending on fsb/strap ect.

Rampage you can set regardless of fsb / strap to your liking, altho if you get it to low ( pL ) you will experience the det dram hang, this usally means your pL is set to low and you have to raise it accordingly.
Tony from OCZ did up a chart to explain all this along with a trd ( PL ) calculator.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=280385

Hope it helps explain it more clearly than I can

[OVERK|LL]

I think I have made it unhappy. It will now no longer run 3.6 at the previous settings...... Though it's hotter than hell in this room right now, which probably isn't helping things. It reboots under small FFT's in short-order, whereas before this was not an issue.

Could this be PL related?

[OVERK|LL]

OK, was able to get back to "page 2" of this saga. No reboots under small FFT's, but freezes/reboots under BLEND. I've said screw it for today and am back at 3.43Ghz rock stable.

[OVERK|LL]

I am taking over this thread! MWA-HAHAHAHHHAHA :D

But seriously, I tried something else:

Left EVERYTHING the EXACT same as I had it for 3.43 at 9x380
Changed it to 430x8
It has just passed BLEND no problem.

Maybe my CPU is just not comfortable (or the board?) at 3.6Ghz?

EDIT: The increase in FSB makes a huge difference in 3DMark! I went from 15,460 to 16,541!!!

[zlojack]

Well, I tried your settings Grnfinger, but no love :(

I think I might need to give the CPU some more volts, but I'm sitting at 1.36 right now with 4.2GHz in Windows, so I think I'll just go with that for my 24/7. I could get the 10GHz bandwidth, but the CPU was getting pretty hot and wanted more volts to get stable.

[ShawnTRD]

Hmmm
Seems that the wording of stuff Tony from OCZ used is different from ASUS BIOS. So I guess I have my homework to do.

[Grnfinger]

I am taking over this thread! MWA-HAHAHAHHHAHA :D

But seriously, I tried something else:

Left EVERYTHING the EXACT same as I had it for 3.43 at 9x380
Changed it to 430x8
It has just passed BLEND no problem.

Maybe my CPU is just not comfortable (or the board?) at 3.6Ghz?

EDIT: The increase in FSB makes a huge difference in 3DMark! I went from 15,460 to 16,541!!!

What are your NB temps like, if its hot enough you will lose stability.


Well, I tried your settings Grnfinger, but no love :(

I think I might need to give the CPU some more volts, but I'm sitting at 1.36 right now with 4.2GHz in Windows, so I think I'll just go with that for my 24/7. I could get the 10GHz bandwidth, but the CPU was getting pretty hot and wanted more volts to get stable.

4.2GHz is respectable :up:
I ran 4.4GHz for 24/7 almost had a sub 10 sec superPI score

[OVERK|LL]

What are your NB temps like, if its hot enough you will lose stability.



4.2GHz is respectable :up:
I ran 4.4GHz for 24/7 almost had a sub 10 sec superPI score

I don't recall them getting much over 60 under full load......... They are at 40C right now.

[zlojack]

4.2GHz is respectable :up:
I ran 4.4GHz for 24/7 almost had a sub 10 sec superPI score

Nice!
I'm pretty pleased with 4.2:cool: but we'll see. Maybe when the weather cools off a bit I'll try for that 4.4, but I'm not sure if my RAM will like the 489 FSB.

[Grnfinger]

I don't recall them getting much over 60 under full load......... They are at 40C right now.

60c on the NB full load?
there is where your problem is, I would look at lowering the temps alot

[OVERK|LL]

60c on the NB full load?
there is where your problem is, I would look at lowering the temps alot

That will likely involve some wonderful disassembly, as the fan I have on my RAM IS hitting the NB........

[Grnfinger]

That will likely involve some wonderful disassembly, as the fan I have on my RAM IS hitting the NB........

Have you reseated the NB with AS5 or Ceramique?
It lowerd my temps alot and I would recommend the extra effort if you have not done it yet, it is well worth the time.

[t_ski]

I bolted a 70mm fan from a stock AMD heatsink over the NB. It seems to have helped stability quite a bit, and temps are between the upper 30's and the lower 40's C.

[OVERK|LL]

No, I have not done that yet. But I really don't want to disassemble my system (AGAIN), so I may just say screw it and leave it at 3.45Ghz. It's happy here, NB is at 40C right now with both SETI and WCG running.

[OVERK|LL]

I bolted a 70mm fan from a stock AMD heatsink over the NB. It seems to have helped stability quite a bit, and temps are between the upper 30's and the lower 40's C.

That's what I have, a 70mm AMD fan, though 3/4 of it is covering my RAM.

[t_ski]

Mine is directly over the NB and not on the ram at all.

[Grnfinger]

That's what I have, a 70mm AMD fan, though 3/4 of it is covering my RAM.

3.45GHz is very respectable, the little bit gained going to 3.6 would be barely noticeable unless you benched, so if scores are not important dont worry and run it the way your happy.

[OVERK|LL]

Mine is directly over the NB and not on the ram at all.

My RAM is running at almost twice it's rated clock speed, so it gets hot.

[Cold Storm]

I just went water the other day, but I have found that now that I don't have any type of air flowing over it, it's just crazy temps on the NB. Later on tonight I'll be trying a Spot cooler... Before going water I had a Xigmatek S1284 with some delta 185cfm fans blowing threw the case.. But, the sound got so bad I went water.. Lol.. But, like I said I'll be trying the spot cooler later on tonight to see if I can get it under control... 56c isn't my favorite temp at 3.5...

[Grnfinger]

I just went water the other day, but I have found that now that I don't have any type of air flowing over it, it's just crazy temps on the NB. Later on tonight I'll be trying a Spot cooler... Before going water I had a Xigmatek S1284 with some delta 185cfm fans blowing threw the case.. But, the sound got so bad I went water.. Lol.. But, like I said I'll be trying the spot cooler later on tonight to see if I can get it under control... 56c isn't my favorite temp at 3.5...

Well now seeing as you went water might I recommend you invest a few dollars more and alittle time and grab one of these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108079

[OVERK|LL]

3.45GHz is very respectable, the little bit gained going to 3.6 would be barely noticeable unless you benched, so if scores are not important dont worry and run it the way your happy.

And I don't have to run any funky voltages on anything to get it stable at 3.45, everything is green in the BIOS and it passes both small FFT's and BLEND in PRIME with no problems.

[Cold Storm]

Well now seeing as you went water might I recommend you invest a few dollars more and alittle time and grab one of these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108079

Yeah, I was thinking of going with that now because of the fact. But, since a friend of mine has a spot cooler, I'll go and try that. I know I'd have to grab two for the pwm also...

[t_ski]

I am in the process of moving and packing. I just moved everything out of my desk so I can sell the desk. Anyway, when I restarted I got the "CPU error" message I always get when I cold boot it. I went in to the BIOS to double check the settings before I started all the way up, and I noticed that Auto on the NB puts it at 1.65v. I thought it was running at 1.25v. lol So now it running at 1.65v with the 70mm fan and reaching only upper 30's C for the idle temp.

[TAOTAO161]

hello all,

finely i manage to get 9*400=3600GHz stable 24/7 OCCT 2.0+PRIME95.
but now i stock even if i rise 1MHz more, the board give me "DET RAM"/"VGA BIOS" errors.

BIOS 1102
-Ai overclock tune = manual
-OC mem lev up= auto
-cpu ratio set= 9.0
-FSB frecv= 400
-pci frecv= 105

-ddram frecv = ddr1066mhz
-ddram command rate = 2t
-ddram timing control= manual
-cash# latency = 5
-ras# to cas# latency =5
-ras# precharge = 5
-ras# active time=15
-ras# to ras# delay = auto
-row refresh cycle time = auto
-write ricovery time = auto
-read to precharge time = auto
-read to write delay (s/d)= auto
-write to read delay (s)= auto
-write to read delay (d)= auto
-read to read delay (s)= auto
-read to read delay(d)= auto
-write to write delay (s)= auto
-write to write delay (d)= auto
-ddram static read control = disable
-dram dynamic write control= disable
-Ai clock twister = light
-Ai transaction booster = disable
-relax level=0

-Cpu voltage 1.55625v (CPU-Z read 1.536)
-cpu ppl voltage = 1.60v
-north bridge voltage= 1.51v
-ddram voltage = 2.12v
-Fsb termination voltage= 1.53v
-south bridge = AUTO
-Loadline calibration = enable
-Cpu gtl reference= x63
-north bridge gtl reference = x67
-ddr3 chanel A+B REF voltage = auto
-ddr3 controller REF voltage = ddr3_REF
-sb 1.5 voltage = auto

offer someone ?

[Grnfinger]

hello all,

finely i manage to get 9*400=3600GHz stable 24/7 OCCT 2.0+PRIME95.
but now i stock even if i rise 1MHz more, the board give me "DET RAM"/"VGA BIOS" errors.

BIOS 1102
-Ai overclock tune = manual
-OC mem lev up= auto
-cpu ratio set= 9.0
-FSB frecv= 400
-pci frecv= 105

-ddram frecv = ddr1066mhz
-ddram command rate = 2t
-ddram timing control= manual
-cash# latency = 5
-ras# to cas# latency =5
-ras# precharge = 5
-ras# active time=15
-ras# to ras# delay = auto
-row refresh cycle time = auto
-write ricovery time = auto
-read to precharge time = auto
-read to write delay (s/d)= auto
-write to read delay (s)= auto
-write to read delay (d)= auto
-read to read delay (s)= auto
-read to read delay(d)= auto
-write to write delay (s)= auto
-write to write delay (d)= auto
-ddram static read control = disable
-dram dynamic write control= disable
-Ai clock twister = light
-Ai transaction booster = disable
-relax level=0

-Cpu voltage 1.55625v (CPU-Z read 1.536)
-cpu ppl voltage = 1.60v
-north bridge voltage= 1.51v
-ddram voltage = 2.12v
-Fsb termination voltage= 1.53v
-south bridge = AUTO
-Loadline calibration = enable
-Cpu gtl reference= x63
-north bridge gtl reference = x67
-ddr3 chanel A+B REF voltage = auto
-ddr3 controller REF voltage = ddr3_REF
-sb 1.5 voltage = auto

offer someone ?

Det dram hang is a result of wrong TRD settings.
First get everything off auto, set values manually.
Your FSBT is way to high imo

[TAOTAO161]

ok, i have the BIOS seting here,
but i dont now what to put in every one.
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6718/21072008375mediumga9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
By TAOTAO (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/TAOTAO)

this is my SPD
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/350/timingkg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
By TAOTAO (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/TAOTAO)

and this is what i think to set in the BIOS, but what a about the others setting.
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8679/timigsetya3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
By TAOTAO (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/TAOTAO)

[Grnfinger]

ok, i have the BIOS seting here,
but i dont now what to put in every one.


Here is what I would suggest to you


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55 ( this is an important setting for 4GB's)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0 ( try 1 if you get a det dram hang)

CPU Voltage : w/e your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[scurvy]

First, I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread so far. The Maximus Formula is my first attempt at really overclocking a motherboard, and your insight and experience has proven invaluable. Thank you.

The rig (as pertinent to overclocking):
E3110 (Xeon E8400 equivalent)
4GB Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066 (4x1GB DIMMs)
Maximus Formula 1201 BIOS
Liquid cooling via Koolance PC3-724 w/CPU-330 & CHC-122 blocks
WD Raptor 150GB 10K RPM (boot drive)
4 x WD 250GB 7500 RPM RAID 10 array (programs and scratch space)

Environment: Non-airconditioned San Francisco (about 24 celsius room temp)

I'm able to get 4.275 GHz with the following setup. I can get higher clocks, but this is very stable for me:

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 1

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.38
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Anything look terribly off here? Any suggestions on where to go (up or down) for these speeds? This is orthos small, blended, large, and FutureMark 3D06 stable.

Two weird things I saw during testing:

1) CPU temps drop super quickly the second the stress test stops. Is this normal? I'd think that some heat would linger around, but the temps go from 65 to 37 C rapidly.

2) I use the onboard RAID controller for my RAID 10 set. I found that the RAID group would go wonky (and start wanting to rebuild) unless I OC'd the board and gave the SB 1.1V. SB worked fine at a normal 1.05V at stock speeds, but demanded more when OC'd. This normal?

[TAOTAO161]

Here is what I would suggest to you


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55 ( this is an important setting for 4GB's)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0 ( try 1 if you get a det dram hang)

CPU Voltage : w/e your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

on the SPD is 71, but if i put it on 55, the memory failed in the prime95 test.

[Grnfinger]

on the SPD is 71, but if i put it on 55, the memory failed in the prime95 test.

set it higher then 60-70 or select AUTO, my kit needs 55 so thats the value I enter'd for the template

[TAOTAO161]

ok, you can tell me please why this timing, is so important to 4GB kit ?

[cadaveca]

ok, you can tell me please why this timing, is so important to 4GB kit ?

Ram IC is adressed by row, or column. As 4GB kit IC's are physically bigger, they have more rows and columns. this means it takes a bit longer to refresh the data within the IC.

[RCG_Bex]

Hey guys, I've got my E6750 running comfortably at 4ghz (stress tested with prime, 3dmark06 looped etc). I did try for a wee bit higher but I think i'm lacking something. 4.1ghz and 4.2ghz both boot but 4.2GHz blue screens after everything finishes loading whilst 4.1ghz is solid until you play games or test in after 3hrs as it random restarts.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500 (510, 515 and 525 have been attempted)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.5875v (1.6 has been tried)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

I'm using Adata Extreme DDR2 1200 - none of my overclocks seem to like it very much if I tell it to run at a certain speed but it's happy on auto

Any ideas? I think it's still got some kick left to take it further. Will lap the bugger if need be!

~Bex

[iTravis]

What the Transaction booster do again? Whenever I set to Disable or Enable my system won't boot, my only option is set to Auto, is that normal?

[Jazz]

Does anyone know if the Ramapage conversion can be done to the P5E Deluxe? Are their any advantages?

[zlojack]

What the Transaction booster do again? Whenever I set to Disable or Enable my system won't boot, my only option is set to Auto, is that normal?

It sets the tRD (performance level).

I think Enabled (0) is tRD=7

So Enabled (1) is tRD=6 and disabled (0) is tRD=8

(please correct me if I'm wrong guys, I'm doing this from memory)

[NBK]

Hi

I want to try to run my E8400@4.0GHz 24/7 on my Maximus Formula BIOS update 1102...

Thanks
NBK

[faithful10]

Hi

I am running 533 on the FSB 100 % stable with current setting (have not potsted all, since rest are running auto)
I use the rampage bios 0403.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7,5
FSB Frequency : 533
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15


DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

My e8400 is a batch q0808xxx.. so it needs 1,4 volt for 100 % stable 4 ghz. Since i am running without loadline calibration i get 1,4 volt under load whit the v-core i use in bios.

But very happy with the system and being able to run 533 mhz on x38 chipset. ram running 1:1 at 1066 mhz.

[Grnfinger]

Hi

I am running 533 on the FSB 100 % stable with current setting (have not potsted all, since rest are running auto)
I use the rampage bios 0403.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7,5
FSB Frequency : 533
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15


DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

My e8400 is a batch q0808xxx.. so it needs 1,4 volt for 100 % stable 4 ghz. Since i am running without loadline calibration i get 1,4 volt under load whit the v-core i use in bios.

But very happy with the system and being able to run 533 mhz on x38 chipset. ram running 1:1 at 1066 mhz.

1066MHz @ PL10? :eek:
That must run like a dog, no reason to run such a high pl

[faithful10]

[QUOTE=Grnfinger;3167579]1066MHz @ PL10? :eek:
That must run like a dog, no reason to run PL 10

I am running some cheap pc 8500 ram, and if i run with lower pl i won't post. But :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty statement to say that it must run like a dog just because of that. Still with the high freq. on ram and so it runs very fast.

I got better results in many test programs than other.

[zlojack]

What's your bandwidth/latency like in Everest? PL10 is pretty high.

[Grnfinger]

[QUOTE=Grnfinger;3167579]1066MHz @ PL10? :eek:
That must run like a dog, no reason to run PL 10

I am running some cheap pc 8500 ram, and if i run with lower pl i won't post. But :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty statement to say that it must run like a dog just because of that. Still with the high freq. on ram and so it runs very fast.

I got better results in many test programs than other.

No need to get all bent out of shape,:shrug: PL10 is very excessive but if your happy with it then what others say should not bother you.
I would also be interested in seeing a bandwidth bench

[jorgito05]

I ran crisys benchmark, got avarage 24fps.
This should be better than that! I have two 2900xt's running crossfire enabled, I checked sais crossfire enabled yes, but the catalist hardware showes this:http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/jorgito05/Hardware2-1.jpg

This sais one card is disabled? on, my computer/device manager both adapters are enabled? also on the ATI override is unlocked, and I can see the second card yet the image above sais one card is disabled?

[faithful10]

Hi again.

Sry if i sounded mad in my reply. Nothing to do with any here. Got a really sad rl news today, so i guess i was a little out of balance.

Here is screenshot of everest at 533 with pl 10

I run with 4 sticks of cheap kingston pc8500 1 giga stick each and it wont post if i go lower on pl.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3746/533everest4yp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Grnfinger]

Hi again.

Sry if i sounded mad in my reply. Nothing to do with any here. Got a really sad rl news today, so i guess i was a little out of balance.

Here is screenshot of everest at 533 with pl 10

I run with 4 sticks of cheap kingston pc8500 1 giga stick each and it wont post if i go lower on pl.

Thats actually not bad at all, latency is alittle high but besides that those Kingston dimms seem to be looking good:up:

[zlojack]

I get a latency of 51.8 with my PL at 7 and FSB of 467, so with FSB of 533 and PL at 10, that isn't bad at all.

I need to tweak a bit more and see if I can tighten up the latency a bit more (or I guess I could up the FSB and see if I can get some more bandwidth at the same latency)

[faithful10]

Thanks for replyes. maybe i can also tweak ram settings more. only
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15

Which is not on auto, so maybe a can take some settings lower by manual choosing them. The latency is also normally around 54,7-54,8. I think it got 55 because i had just started the system.

Will try some manyel settings when i got more time, and it is these sticks i use 2*2 sets of: http://www.pc-lager.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=16306&type=0

#zlojack: if not your e8400 should have some problems with high fsb i think you can go around the 533 also without probz. I went from 501 to 533 afte ri got the board flashed to rampage with bios 0403

[OVERK|LL]

It's funny that the new Rampage BIOS is STILL not showing up on ASUS's FTP site!

[Grnfinger]

Yes Zlojack buddy that chip loves high FSB, you could drop the multi .5 and run slightly higher FSB and see how that performs for you, I have had the chip as high as 545 so there is not much wall there for you to incounter.
Off topic, rant/on ...if Asus dosent pull there head out of there ass soon I'm going to have a fit, they have had the card since Monday and its still NOT in there system, the whole process is suppose to take 10 days :rofl: 5 is up and its still not in the system, all I want is my FREAKING card, there rant/off I feel better now lol :up: