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mashakos
05-26-2008, 02:37 PM
Post settings.
I used nuckin_futs' bios settings from here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2568733&postcount=2704)
All the settings are identical to the one found in the link except for CPU PLL voltage, changed to 1.632v in order to get the 500x8 overclock (which he mentioned as well in some other post).
So, props to him/her.
cadaveca
05-26-2008, 02:48 PM
Following are some images of todays 3DMARK06 results. I was getting a lower score of about 11 thousand something now this? all I did is download SP3 for windows XP Is this possible?
Also I have two 2900 XT's running crossfire; Why does it show only one display device? How do I change this?
First, sounds like you did not install XP hotfixes for Crossfire in XP at first.
Secondly, Crossfire makes for just one device. Disable it to get things back to normal. Pain in the butt if you multi-monitor, for sure, but that's how it is.
ZenEffect
05-26-2008, 02:50 PM
First, sounds like you did not install XP hotfixes for Crossfire in XP at first.
Secondly, Crossfire makes for just one device. Disable it to get things back to normal. Pain in the butt if you multi-monitor, for sure, but that's how it is.
what driver version are you using? catalyst 8.3 tends to destroy your cpu score in crossfire. fastest catalyst for 2900s are 7.11 in 3dmark06. :up:
Grnfinger
05-26-2008, 02:51 PM
I used nuckin_futs' bios settings from here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2568733&postcount=2704)
All the settings are identical to the one found in the link except for CPU PLL voltage, changed to 1.632v in order to get the 500x8 overclock (which he mentioned as well in some other post).
So, props to him/her.
now do it on the 9 multi:D
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4500_keep.jpg
Nuckin_Futs
05-26-2008, 03:38 PM
I have just got my new Q9450 , I dont know why but I have some problem with my FSB setting . I cant pass 440mhz with the quad core . (6x multi just to test my max fsb).
I have the lastest bios 1201 .
update : I need 1.65v to the north bridge and 1.5v to fsb to have 440fsb stable it is normal ?
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 6
FSB Frequency : 440
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-880mhz (1066mhz memory)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : disable
Relax level : 1
CPU Voltage : 1.275
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : auto
CPU GTL Reference : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 6
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enable
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Cool another Q9450 overclocker. Well, wish you better luck then my Q9450 or 45nm quad support or feedback request. I usually just get ignored by the regulars in this tread dispite my high support I return. Oh well, there's other sites.
I'm sure your questions will get results as I can already see.
Im getting BSOD after hour or so play in counterstrike, is there anyway to find out whats causing the problem as i ran prime95 for 9 hours on current settings and it didnt crash or see any problems.
Im on bios 907 should i move to a newer one and if so which?
Thanks.
Ok i managed to see the bsod message and it said page fault in non paged area. Any ideas what could be causing this?
Grnfinger
05-26-2008, 03:49 PM
Ok i managed to see the bsod message and it said page fault in non paged area. Any ideas what could be causing this?
Vista?
If so your looking at a re install, Vista is kinda wimpy on the hard crashes and after a small amount of time you wil need to do a clean install.
I usually just get ignored by the regulars in this tread dispite my high support I return. Oh well, there's other sites.
I'm sure your questions will get results as I can already see.
I dont ignore anyone,( accept maybe my wife) if I dont have an answer I dont bother to comment is all. If I have a suggestion I will always post a reply...always. It is frustrating having your post go unanswerd. I always read every new post including yours :). Sometimes I can offer some info / advice and other times I will just look foolish so I remain quiet. Please dont take my silence personal, I find your post's informative and you have help'd me many times in the past, so if at any time I can help you I surely will:up:
OVERK|LL
05-26-2008, 04:05 PM
Cool another Q9450 overclocker. Well, wish you better luck then my Q9450 or 45nm quad support or feedback request. I usually just get ignored by the regulars in this tread dispite my high support I return. Oh well, there's other sites.
I'm sure your questions will get results as I can already see.
I have learned a fair bit from you guys already actually :D
The last time I did any real overclocking was in the late 90's with a BP6 and a pair of Celeron 366's.
Since 99% of the systems I build are for businesses, I don't get a chance to mess around a lot with OC'ing and the like. It is only recently when I've actually gotten around to make time to get back into this :D A LOT has changed!!!
Vista?
If so your looking at a re install, Vista is kinda wimpy on the hard crashes and after a small amount of time you wil need to do a clean install.
Only happens ingame...
I added 2 more volts to northbridge to see if needed more juice but dont know why it would. Will see if it crashes again.
Also is there any guidelines to what the FSB termination voltage should be set at, ive set mine at lowest cos told lower is better but dont know how you guys know whats good setting is for it, how do you work it out?
Cool another Q9450 overclocker. Well, wish you better luck then my Q9450 or 45nm quad support or feedback request. I usually just get ignored by the regulars in this tread dispite my high support I return. Oh well, there's other sites.
I'm sure your questions will get results as I can already see.
I don't think anyone was ignoring you NF. There just aren't that many 9450 owners out there with this mobo. My Maximus is a Rampage conversion. Bios 403 was a disaster for me. 219 works better on the conversion and my Rampage Formula. IMHO clocks with a 9450 @ 3.6 and below are hardly XS worthy. I want my chips to last at least a year. I haven't pushed Vcore or FSBT over 1.4 on either. That's why I lurk more than I post. ;) The 9450 thread does have some good info with braver soles getting 475 X 8. :yepp:
hotshot100
05-26-2008, 05:30 PM
this is the best I can do with my Q9450 . Im very disapointed , My E8400 run at 4.1ghz (455x9)
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h98/hotshot100/Watercooling/Untitled.jpg
this is the best I can do with my Q9450 . Im very disapointed , My E8400 run at 4.1ghz (455x9)
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h98/hotshot100/Watercooling/Untitled.jpg
Probably not. Post your bios settings. :) Don't be afraid to run up to 1.40 on vcore and fsbt. The jury is out on whether anything over 1.40 vcore has adverse affects on 45nms. Some say the vcore limit is 1.45. Over 1.40 fsbt seems to be a proven chip killer based on my reading.
hotshot100
05-26-2008, 05:38 PM
Its the Rampage bios
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 8
FSB Frequency : 434
FSB Strap to North Bridge : auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1088mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : auto
CPU Voltage : 1.325
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : auto
CPU GTL Reference : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enable
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
Its the Rampage bios
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 8
FSB Frequency : 434
FSB Strap to North Bridge : auto Try the 333 and 400 straps
PCI-E Frequency: 100 Experiment up to 115 if you have an imaging program
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1088mhz Lower frequency till you find max stable cpu
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15 Try 18 above 500mhz or over
DRAM Static Read Control: auto disabled worked for me at 3.6
Ai Clock Twister : light Auto
Transaction Booster : auto
CPU Voltage : 1.325 With loadline in auto I had to set 1.45 to get 1.38 actual
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 keep below 1.70 actual
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59 I've used 1.70 with Q660 G0s[. Haven't gone over 1.65 with 8Gb on the 9450/B]
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.5 [B]Should be below 1.40 for long term chip life
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : auto Anandtech recommends against "enabled" I've used it on Q6600s without issues. I'm using Auto on my 9450s
CPU GTL Reference : auto Try 0.63. 0.67 worked for me on one chip with 3.6. Someone else on this site reported 0.63 was correct for 45 nms. :shrug:
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto Try 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto Most seem to be using DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enable
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled I keep this enabled because I use Vmware
Execute Disable Bit : Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
Suggestions as to where to experiment are in bold above. Note I edited my post above while you were posting. :) And I had zero luck with bios 403. I'm using 219
jorgito05
05-26-2008, 06:35 PM
First, sounds like you did not install XP hotfixes for Crossfire in XP at first.
Secondly, Crossfire makes for just one device. Disable it to get things back to normal. Pain in the butt if you multi-monitor, for sure, but that's how it is.
Where do I find that?
Thanks for your quick responce
jorgito05
05-26-2008, 06:40 PM
what driver version are you using? catalyst 8.3 tends to destroy your cpu score in crossfire. fastest catalyst for 2900s are 7.11 in 3dmark06. :up:
I just installed today the new 8.5 that came out. Going to run a new test now with a little bump up 400 x 8.5 , will post in a bit.
scottath
05-26-2008, 06:46 PM
what driver version are you using? catalyst 8.3 tends to destroy your cpu score in crossfire. fastest catalyst for 2900s are 7.11 in 3dmark06. :up:
Do you happen to know what are the best crossfire drivers for Vista [2x HD3870's]
jorgito05
05-26-2008, 07:22 PM
Latest results @ 3.6 GHz (400 X 9)
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/jorgito05/Score36GHz.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/jorgito05/ResultAnalizer36GHz.jpg
Whats this crossfire hotfix for XT you guys mentioned and where do I get it?
By the way I had voltages on auto in bios, realy everything was set to auto exept for multiplier and FSB (9 X 400)
jorgito05
05-26-2008, 07:54 PM
Just read an article and it stated that SP3 for Xp contains this fix. Thats why I got better results today I installed SP3 yesterday.
jorgito05
05-26-2008, 07:58 PM
First, sounds like you did not install XP hotfixes for Crossfire in XP at first.
Secondly, Crossfire makes for just one device. Disable it to get things back to normal. Pain in the butt if you multi-monitor, for sure, but that's how it is.
You where right! just found out SP3 had this hotfix I din't have.
jonathankru
05-26-2008, 11:05 PM
Has Anyone else seen or had the following
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=79398&stc=1&d=1211867738
All of my voltages & temps drop other than the CPU.
I dont think it is temps and i was not loading the machine at all.
I was playing music and that was all. It happens often (within two or three hours of starting the machine. Notice how aacentre.exe and everest.exe are using 25% of my cpu.
Temps and voltages were.
NB=37
SB=35
CPU=1.456
FSB vtt voltage=1.42
CPU pll voltage=1.62
NB voltage=1.7
SB voltage=1.1
DRAM=2V
mashakos
05-27-2008, 02:00 AM
now do it on the 9 multi:D
it didn't work! :brick:
are you telling me you got that result on the same settings I'm using??
Grnfinger
05-27-2008, 03:21 AM
Has Anyone else seen or had the following
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=79398&stc=1&d=1211867738
All of my voltages & temps drop other than the CPU.
I dont think it is temps and i was not loading the machine at all.
I was playing music and that was all. It happens often (within two or three hours of starting the machine. Notice how aacentre.exe and everest.exe are using 25% of my cpu.
Temps and voltages were.
NB=37
SB=35
CPU=1.456
FSB vtt voltage=1.42
CPU pll voltage=1.62
NB voltage=1.7
SB voltage=1.1
DRAM=2V
I just went through this, its a pain in the ass to resolve.
Delete Asus Suite and AACenter alltogether, there part of the problem.
Then if you read a few pages back I posted updated chipset drivers, install them and it should be back to normal.
Start > run >type regedit>press crtl +f> type aacenter.
set the value to zero, then delete the file, reboot. AACenter is now removed.
Then install updated NB driver and SB driver
Renegade5399
05-27-2008, 06:25 AM
Can you give us a run down of all you settings please Renegade5399
what is your cpuPLL set at? I'd like to try your settings as I have never gotten 4 ghz past anything besides instant BSOD upon load.
Can you post up your settings and voltages? I have been trying to get it stable its just not working.... chip willl do 3.8ghz so far though.
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : ? - I forget ATM
PCI-E Frequency: 112
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1187 - I pulled the Single sided Ballistix and am running 2x1GB OCZ 1066 Reapers
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : Set to 1.55 for 1.53 Real
CPU PLL Voltage : Set to 1.63 for 1.73 Real
North Bridge Voltage : Set to 1.71 for 1.73 Real
DRAM Voltage : Set to 2.18 for 2.28 Real
FSB Termination Voltage : Set to 1.61 for 1.63 Real
South Bridge Voltage : Set to 1.15
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Set one above stock
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
scottath
05-27-2008, 06:36 AM
Thanks, i'll try them after exams and work tomorrow - now is time to sleep.... [11:36pm here]
Brama
05-27-2008, 07:27 AM
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Voltage : Set to 1.55 for 1.53 Real
CPU PLL Voltage : Set to 1.63 for 1.73 Real
North Bridge Voltage : Set to 1.71 for 1.73 Real
DRAM Voltage : Set to 2.18 for 2.28 Real
FSB Termination Voltage : Set to 1.61 for 1.63 Real
South Bridge Voltage : Set to 1.15
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Set one above stock
DON'T USE a FSBT so high in 45 nm cpus unless you want to buy one new soon. ;)
Renegade5399
05-27-2008, 07:55 AM
Look at my sig, I am running a Q6600.
Brama
05-27-2008, 09:12 AM
Look at my sig, I am running a Q6600.
It was a warning for other forum's mates that use a 45 nm cpu, not for you. :)
How does one work out what to set FSB termination voltage at? been trying to find guide to explain this but getting nothing helpful.
You guys are scaring me with the low Q9450 clocks on this board.
I've one sitting at 3.8ghz in an Abit IP35 Pro, and I'll be swapping it into this board as soon as I've got some more MX-2.
Zucker2k
05-27-2008, 10:13 AM
After a bit of a fight, I managed to get this Q9450 to 8x470 with 8Gbs of ram. Will post settings soon....
Sorry for poor picture resolution, had to save image to .gif to get it under 200k limit...
My first impression: The chip is very sensitive to ALL voltages, it'll fail to boot into windows if I merely upped vcore alone to get prime stable. You have to adjust all settings at once. Still learning a few things.
XtremeTiramisu
05-27-2008, 10:15 AM
How does one work out what to set FSB termination voltage at? been trying to find guide to explain this but getting nothing helpful.
We don't see the option of CPU VTT for tweaking in the Asus bios unlike other manufactures such as DFI for example. I think FSB VTT in the most recent Asus Maximus and Rampage bios is referring to the same as CPU VTT, if I'm not mistaken here. I believe Asus' FSB VTT tweak option behaves the same or in a similar manner as CPU VTT.
The general understanding of correlation between CPU VTT, NB voltage, CPU voltage, NB and CPU GTL reference voltages and the recent DRAM SKEW options are all tied up together. It's very crucial to understand what each of these option does for overclocking. An novice overclocker can leave most of these settings in AUTO and may only find himself capped at a certain overclock usually due to FSB limitation, whereas, overclockers who has an basic understanding what these options does and sit in front of his comp all day overclocking using the method of trial by error may be able to break the FSB wall.
After the released of P35 chipset to the recent X38/X48 chipset and the upcomming P45 chipset, it will be a must to understand and to tweak EVERY options I mentioned above before you get fruasted or post a new reply here saying why you can't past FSB 384 or FSB 412, or even FSB 458, etc. Yes, there will be cases that the limitation is due to the hardware but research results have shown that by understanding and tweaking these options will give you an above average OC than an average OC if you leave most of the option in auto.
I strongly recommend everyone read this article to understand these options more and why they are essecial in the X38/X48/P45 chipset mobos:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/05/12/will-you-overclock-intel-s-p45/1
Renegade5399
05-27-2008, 10:19 AM
It was a warning for other forum's mates that use a 45 nm cpu, not for you. :)
Cool beans! You are very correct too. 45nm goes the other way of 65nm. 65 likes a bump in those volts whereas 45 likes to left alone.
How does one work out what to set FSB termination voltage at? been trying to find guide to explain this but getting nothing helpful.
Well, it's not easy. Mine was pure trial and error. My quad was doing the "stable one day, but not the next" routine at 4.0. 3.952 was fine, but 4.0 wasn't. The last 2 things I had left to tweak were the FSBTerm and PLL volts. The NB and Core volts I was not willing to go higher on, so I tried FSBTerm and PLL. Turns out that was the issue.
chawks2
05-27-2008, 10:23 AM
After a bit of a fight, I managed to get this Q9450 to 8x470 with 8Gbs of ram. Will post settings soon....
My 9450 highest was 8x465, however it was completely unstable.
I have to rethink my cooling solution on the NB. The Thermalright HR-05/IFX, is not getting it done. I have had my vNB as high as 1.73 and the machine is stable (E8400), but after about 30 minutes it shuts off. Turns out the NB temp is going over 90C. :down:
Additionally, I have noticed some strange USB behavior when using the 8 multi vs. the 9 multi. Has anyone seen the USB controllers showing up, but failing to recognize the device? Once I go back to the 9 multi the USB ports work with no issue. Then again maybe it has something to do with FSB (8 multi - as high as 510//9 multi as high as 475)??
Strange if you ask me.
Renegade5399
05-27-2008, 10:32 AM
I would like to also mention that I feel safe running higher voltages because of the cooling I have. My water system can remove a large amount of heat due to the CFM of my fans and those Bonnie cores dump heat like crazy when a lot of CFM is pumped through them. After all, that's what they were designed for. I can maintain what I feel are safe temps with the fans at half speed and crank the fans up for hot weather or hard benching. Unless you're prepared to spend the money for over the top type cooling, I DO NOT suggest you push the voltage envelope as I have, it's just not a good idea. I have gotten a few "Are you nuts?" PM's from both here and at my home forum. Short answer: Yes I am. I have deep pockets and like performance. If it takes a little voltage to get there, then so be it. I just don't want people popping their $200+ dollar CPUs on my suggestions.
Zucker2k
05-27-2008, 11:27 AM
My 9450 highest was 8x465, however it was completely unstable.
I have to rethink my cooling solution on the NB. The Thermalright HR-05/IFX, is not getting it done. I have had my vNB as high as 1.73 and the machine is stable (E8400), but after about 30 minutes it shuts off. Turns out the NB temp is going over 90C. :down:
Additionally, I have noticed some strange USB behavior when using the 8 multi vs. the 9 multi. Has anyone seen the USB controllers showing up, but failing to recognize the device? Once I go back to the 9 multi the USB ports work with no issue. Then again maybe it has something to do with FSB (8 multi - as high as 510//9 multi as high as 475)??
Strange if you ask me.
The biggest factors are NB and FSBT volts... still pushing...
Anuaja
05-27-2008, 01:13 PM
All, this is safe voltage ?
CPU Voltage : 1.4
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46 probe & everest 1.36
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/3501/85x485primeblend2hkb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
sorry for my bad english.
Renegade5399
05-27-2008, 01:17 PM
What RAM is that?
Anuaja
05-27-2008, 01:20 PM
What RAM is that?
2x1gb teamxtreme cl 3-3-3-8:D
MrHydes
05-27-2008, 01:43 PM
Is There anyone with E8500 with same FPO Q746A363 as mine?
All, this is safe voltage ?
CPU Voltage : 1.4
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46 probe & everest 1.36
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/3501/85x485primeblend2hkb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
sorry for my bad english.
Niiiiiiiiiiice :)
This page has started to get my hopes up for my Q9450 in this board.
Furious
05-27-2008, 04:35 PM
Im having cold boot issues, my setup works very well at 4ghz with orthos/prime tests. I can restart the computer and everything is good. However after leaving it overnite, it will hang at DET RAM the next day.
If I use sleep its all fine :(
This is very annoying. Any ideas? Ive tried playing with most of the voltage settings, I think the last options I have is either a new bios from Asus or trying a older one?
Setup:
E8400
Rampage
4ghz @ 1.4v
Loadline Disabled
4x1GB Corsair Dominator (@ 44412 890mhz or 55518 1069mhz does the same thing) @ 2.22V
NB @ 1.63V @ 40c load (watercooled and ive tried higher V)
Any ideas?
ghost_recon88
05-27-2008, 07:56 PM
So the RF 0403 is better for quads then the MF 1201?
XtremeTiramisu
05-27-2008, 11:48 PM
So the RF 0403 is better for quads then the MF 1201?
Which quad? 45nm or 65nm? I've 65nm quad and I find the newest MF or RF beta bios to share the same stability. I can say either bios are the best ones I've tested up to date in terms of stability. RF bios has finer tuning options so it will get you a slightly faster system under benchmarks but not so much that you can actually "feel" it. You can tell the scores are better than MF bios becouse MF bios doesn't have the finer tuning options to make the board to run near its max OC potential. The finer tuning options offered in the RF bios will need you to take lots of patience to gain any additional system bandwidth, latency over MF bios. Have a read of my previous post above where I've included a link as a must read for overclocking X38/X48/P45 chipset mobos.
jonathankru
05-28-2008, 12:41 AM
I just went through this, its a pain in the ass to resolve.
Delete Asus Suite and AACenter alltogether, there part of the problem.
Then if you read a few pages back I posted updated chipset drivers, install them and it should be back to normal.
Start > run >type regedit>press crtl +f> type aacenter.
set the value to zero, then delete the file, reboot. AACenter is now removed.
Then install updated NB driver and SB driver
Thanks Grnfinger. I Read your post about the new NB and SB drivers and i have already upgraded them but what i have not done is delete Asus Suite and AAcentre and then do the registry change.I will try it tonight. I thought my board was Faulty.
Thanks Agian
mashakos
05-28-2008, 01:16 AM
Post settings.
CPU-Z validation in sig
courtesy of nuckin_futs
CPU Configuration
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting [8x]
FSB Frequency [500MHz]
FSB Strap To North Bridge [Auto]*
PCIE Frequency [111]
DRAM Frequency [Auto]*
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
Primary Info; 4-4-4-12-3-42-6-3
CAS# Latancy [4]
RAS# To CAS# Delay [4]
RAS# Precharge [4]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To RAS# Dlay [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [Auto]
Scondary Info; 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read To Write Dely(S/D) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Read To Read(S) [Auto]
Read To Read(D) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(D) [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]*
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]*
Transaction Booster [Disabled]*
Relax Level [0]*
------------------------------------------
CPU Voltage [1.3875v] = 1.368v
CPU PLL Voltage [1.632v] = 1.632v
North Bridge Voltage [1.47v]
DRAM Voltage [2.14v] = 2.245v
FSB Termination Voltage [1.40v] = 1.472v
South Bridge Voltage [1.075v] = 1.104v
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Refference [0.63%]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.63%]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [ Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5v Voltage [1.55v] = 1.584v
NB LED Selection [FSBT Volts]
SB LED Selection [SB 1.5 Selection]
CPU LED Selection [PLL Volts]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
-------------------------------
CPU Configuratins:
Virtualization = Enabled*
TM Mode = Enabled
C1E = Enabled
Ex Bit Disable = Enabled*
EIST = (Disabled by BIOS over certain FSB
JH_man
05-28-2008, 01:18 AM
I got a old BIOS (check my sig). What BIOS should I upgrade to?
JH_man
Zucker2k
05-28-2008, 05:51 AM
CPU-Z validation in sig
courtesy of nuckin_futs
CPU Configuration
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting [8x]
FSB Frequency [500MHz]
FSB Strap To North Bridge [Auto]*
PCIE Frequency [111]
DRAM Frequency [Auto]* DDR2 1000? What spec. rams are you running?
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
Primary Info; 4-4-4-12-3-42-6-3
CAS# Latancy [4]
RAS# To CAS# Delay [4]
RAS# Precharge [4]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To RAS# Dlay [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [Auto]
Scondary Info; 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read To Write Dely(S/D) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Read To Read(S) [Auto]
Read To Read(D) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(D) [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]*
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]*
Transaction Booster [Disabled]*
Relax Level [0]*
------------------------------------------
CPU Voltage [1.3875v] = 1.368v
CPU PLL Voltage [1.632v] = 1.632v Set this to 1.50v - I had a lot of problems running my wolfie at anything higher than 1.50v
North Bridge Voltage [1.47v] What performance level are you running? You may have to up this a little bit.
DRAM Voltage [2.14v] = 2.245v
FSB Termination Voltage [1.40v] = 1.472v This is a little high, since your board is overvolting, I suggest you set it to 1.30v if it boots and your able to even stress the board a few minutes, you're fine in this category. Mine was set to 1.24v for 8.5x506
South Bridge Voltage [1.075v] = 1.104v
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Refference [0.63%]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.63%] Set this to x67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [ Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5v Voltage [1.55v] = 1.584v
NB LED Selection [FSBT Volts]
SB LED Selection [SB 1.5 Selection]
CPU LED Selection [PLL Volts]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
-------------------------------
CPU Configuratins:
Virtualization = Enabled*
TM Mode = Enabled
C1E = Enabled
Ex Bit Disable = Enabled*
EIST = (Disabled by BIOS over certain FSB Nope, it'll show when you set cpu ratio to auto, then disable, then set back to x8.
Goodluck to you.
Zucker2k
05-28-2008, 08:58 AM
Anyone in the market for a cherry-picked quad pm me. Thanks.
ghost_recon88
05-28-2008, 08:55 PM
Holy crap, I'm from Haslett too!
Zucker2k
05-28-2008, 09:01 PM
Holy crap, I'm from Haslett too!
Hiya neighbor! :cool:
WaterFlex
05-28-2008, 11:54 PM
Guys! I have problems with my PC. The problem is with my Maximus Formula, I think. So, I`ll try to describe my problem. (Sorry for my bad English)
You can see my configuration at the signature.
When I use ICQ and see "smiles", I hear strange sounds from my PC. Something sounds synchronously with any animation of smile. Any smile "plays" and there are sounds in keeping time with this "playing".
Also, when i scroll IE page, I hear that sounds again.
When I start any game, i hear sounds again, but they are quite.
When I watch video, the same situation.
The first thought was that the problem is with my videocard. I tried to switch off the additional 6pin connector from my videocard but videocard couldn`t work. So, I took my friend`s 8800 GT card and set it up with additional 6pin connector====> still fu..ing sounds. Then I tried to switch off the additional power from 8800 GT and it started work without it. And sounds disapeared!!! At that time, i had my 400W power suppy which I bought with my TT Xaser VI. And I thought that the problem is with my bad power supply(bad and not stable voltage)
After that, I had run to the shop and bought Seasonic M12-700 power supply. I set it up in hope that the problem will be fixed...but...useless...........
Guys, my motherboard is new. This problem had occurred as soon as i turned it on.
Please, if you have any ideas, help me please... thank you guys...
Leeghoofd
05-29-2008, 01:31 AM
Might be an incompatability between mobo/soundcard combo and the 8800GT you have... a friend of mine did also have weird sound probs and swapping the vidcard helped him ( same type though )
Tried a bios update ?
WaterFlex
05-29-2008, 01:47 AM
Might be an incompatability between mobo/soundcard combo and the 8800GT you have... a friend of mine did also have weird sound probs and swapping the vidcard helped him ( same type though )
Tried a bios update ?
No,no,no! Not audio sounds from speakers! Sounds from the motherboard region. Maybe throttles make sounds ?
Leeghoofd
05-29-2008, 03:41 AM
Ah now I get it, could be a bad capacitor, coil,... did you test the mobo outside the case ?
WaterFlex
05-29-2008, 03:44 AM
Ah now I get it, could be a bad capacitor, coil,... did you test the mobo outside the case ?
No, I didn`t. Today I`ll try to set my videocard up to another PCI-E slot.
scottath
05-29-2008, 05:03 AM
My P5E does this also - but then so did my GA-P35-DS4 - my quad overclocked dosent help i would think
Grnfinger
05-29-2008, 04:36 PM
Anyone running Crossfire?
What cards are you running and what kinda of 3dmark scores are you getting with them?
I have a 3870X2 ( still waiting for a water block ) so I can use it. But I can trade it for a crossfire deal and some other things, was wondering what the general opinion was on ATI Crossfire.
Anyone running Crossfire?
What cards are you running and what kinda of 3dmark scores are you getting with them?
2x x1650Pro 512MB...damn 3870 went bang! :D
EDIT: Oh, and I like it. Crossfire seems to work well, not had a game that didn't benefit from it!
ZenEffect
05-29-2008, 05:15 PM
i run crossfire, 2 2900pros 512bit/512mb
22k in 3dmark06, 200+ fps average call of duty 4 w/ aa af off and rest set to max.
overall, im fairly happy w/ my cards.
aicjofs
05-29-2008, 08:31 PM
Anyone running Crossfire?
What cards are you running and what kinda of 3dmark scores are you getting with them?
I have a 3870X2 ( still waiting for a water block ) so I can use it. But I can trade it for a crossfire deal and some other things, was wondering what the general opinion was on ATI Crossfire.
For 2x3870 my best 3dmark06 is 21500@4.45Ghz CPU, stable is right at 20K, with 4Ghz CPU.
scottath
05-30-2008, 06:56 AM
Only got to 19678 so far with my cards [near enough to stock overclocks on the cards though]
ghost_recon88
05-30-2008, 07:40 AM
In the BIOS, where is the setting that determines what temperature it auto shuts down at? I'd like to disable the motherboard from automatically shutting down when it gets too hot.
Grnfinger
05-30-2008, 01:43 PM
Thanks for the input guys :up:
So what would be your opinion on a 3870X2 vs HD3870 crossfire?
My trade option is 2 Sapphire ATI RADEON HD 3870 Toxic 512MB and cash for 1 Asus EAH 3870X2 1GB
Stick with my current X2 or go for the trade?
theonlybabyface
05-30-2008, 01:51 PM
Thanks for the input guys :up:
So what would be your opinion on a 3870X2 vs HD3870 crossfire?
My trade option is 2 Sapphire ATI RADEON HD 3870 Toxic 512MB and cash for 1 Asus EAH 3870X2 1GB
Stick with my current X2 or go for the trade?
I'd stick with what you currently have....
binormalkilla
05-30-2008, 05:01 PM
Thanks for the input guys :up:
So what would be your opinion on a 3870X2 vs HD3870 crossfire?
My trade option is 2 Sapphire ATI RADEON HD 3870 Toxic 512MB and cash for 1 Asus EAH 3870X2 1GB
Stick with my current X2 or go for the trade?
I would just stick with the 3870X2 unless you have some water blocks for those cards.....the two card solution will OC like crazy on water with some voltage.....just look at mine. 200 MHz OC on the core isn't anything to sneeze at......24/7 rock solid gaming stable.
xtclocker
05-31-2008, 02:17 AM
Today my board finally died, tried everything... I'm going to RMA my board, any body know the best way?
masska
05-31-2008, 06:05 AM
Anyone running Crossfire?
What cards are you running and what kinda of 3dmark scores are you getting with them?
I have a 3870X2 ( still waiting for a water block ) so I can use it. But I can trade it for a crossfire deal and some other things, was wondering what the general opinion was on ATI Crossfire.
I've got crossfire 2 x 3870x2 @ a mild oc of 875 x 955. Besides the fan noise no probs. Since your considering water, then the noise wont be an issue for you.My first score all (GPU&CPU) at stock was 17878 3DMarksThese cards have got a lot more in them, I just had to wait until I picked my new ram (took your advice and went with the Dominator Twin2X4096-8500C5DF 4GB):up:. Will post results soon,and update my sig.
masska
05-31-2008, 06:08 AM
No, I didn`t. Today I`ll try to set my videocard up to another PCI-E slot.
Is it a bipp! type sound?
masska
05-31-2008, 06:14 AM
Today my board finally died, tried everything... I'm going to RMA my board, any body know the best way?
I assume its Asus? then contact them direct. Or depending on your reseller they will handle the RMA for you.When ever I had issues with hardware bought from my favourite supplier, they've always handled the returns for me.
Talonman
05-31-2008, 06:24 AM
One more happy camper running 8GB on his Maximus!! :D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145
I just installed my second 4GB kit, and all sticks were good.
My saved 3.6GHz and 3.8GHz profiles worked as is.
Grnfinger
05-31-2008, 06:31 AM
One more happy camper running 8GB on his Maximus!! :D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145
I just installed my second 4GB kit, and all sticks were good.
My saved 3.6MHz and 3.8MHz profiles worked as is.
Very nice :up:
I'm making the jump to 8GB's shortly, just updating my GPU first and then I will join the 21st century and grab more ram.
How fast can you run the ram at 3.8GHz?
Talonman
05-31-2008, 06:36 AM
Very nice :up:
I'm making the jump to 8GB's shortly, just updating my GPU first and then I will join the 21st century and grab more ram.
How fast can you run the ram at 3.8GHz?
So far, but that is all the faster I usually run my system. :)
I think I am just a 3.8GHz guy! :cool:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7431/run29mh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
MarcusFoX
05-31-2008, 08:22 AM
Hey Guys I was Wondering what bios would be best to run with my Maximus Formulas SE converted to a Rampage with a q9450.
Also any advice and tip would be great.
Grnfinger
05-31-2008, 08:24 AM
Hey Guys I was Wondering what bios would be best to run with my Maximus Formulas SE converted to a Rampage with a q9450.
Also any advice and tip would be great.
I would try 403 it's a very stable bios
I dont run a q9450 but is you look a few pages back you will find some settings
Please keep us posted on your results, seems the q9450 is a hard one to get a decent overclock.
MarcusFoX
05-31-2008, 08:37 AM
Ok ill give 403 a try and keep you guys updated on my finding, o, waiting on some water fittings right now I should have more information in a couple of days.
:up:
Talonman
05-31-2008, 09:29 AM
Running a few tests, I noticed one thing that has improved over my 4GB config.
Everest Memory Copy was reporting 7,831 MB/s with my 4GB of RAM. It was usually a consistant number that didn't vary much on my system.
Everest Memory Copy is now reporting 8,030 MB/s with my 8GB of RAM. I never was able to hit that number before...
angel_dust
05-31-2008, 09:53 AM
Hi all
Anybody know how to disable Speed Step? I have Intel Speed Step disabled in Bios but I think there is some other setting that I also need to change.
jVIDIA
05-31-2008, 11:39 AM
Can you guys run the Rampage with a Q6600@default and the mem's@1066 with vNB@default ?
aicjofs
05-31-2008, 01:24 PM
Hi all
Anybody know how to disable Speed Step? I have Intel Speed Step disabled in Bios but I think there is some other setting that I also need to change.
You need disable C1E and speedstep
dude_500
05-31-2008, 01:27 PM
You need disable C1E and speedstep
The thing is the RF bios don't have an option to turn off speedstep, which causes problems with the readouts of most analysis programs.
Talonman
05-31-2008, 01:31 PM
I can confirm that Prime, after 2HR's and 10 minutes of hard labor, has no issues with the 8GB of G.SKILL 's.
With my 424 FSB, my RAM is operating at 846MHz, to give me 3.8252 GHz.
My RAM is rated up to 1000MHz, but I don't think I will ever ask it to run that fast. :p:
I think I am an official G.SKILL 's fan now! :up:
8GB, 2HR 10min error free run @ 3.8252 GHz.
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4846/run30py7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Nuckin_Futs
05-31-2008, 02:23 PM
Ok ill give 403 a try and keep you guys updated on my finding, o, waiting on some water fittings right now I should have more information in a couple of days. :up:Well keep us posted, I couldn't get any feedback on mine so I will follow oyur questions and see where it goes. but as for my experience, it did oC too high on FSB. 450 was a challange and if on a divider, the voltages needed to keep it stable were usually higher then I am used to w/ even a Q6600. Although in some multi app cases, it really does shine and w/ little heat.
Hi all
Anybody know how to disable Speed Step? I have Intel Speed Step disabled in Bios but I think there is some other setting that I also need to change.If and only when at stock or in Auto, simply disable in CPU features. If Overclocking, it is automatically disabled for you as soon as you move FSB up. I personally leave C1E enabled for daily usse. I sometimes (if I remember) disable it for benching. If your system is truely stable, it will be perfectly fine w/ C1E + TM1 mode (ASUS also locks out TM2 mode w/ C1E). Again, that may just be me but I have done it since the !925EX. Others are gonna likey tell you to disable just so you can see a max 24/7 high CPU clock.
Zucker2k
05-31-2008, 05:58 PM
If and only when at stock or in Auto, simply disable in CPU features. If Overclocking, it is automatically disabled for you as soon as you move FSB up. I personally leave C1E enabled for daily usse. I sometimes (if I remember) disable it for benching. If your system is truely stable, it will be perfectly fine w/ C1E + TM1 mode (ASUS also locks out TM2 mode w/ C1E). Again, that may just be me but I have done it since the !925EX. Others are gonna likey tell you to disable just so you can see a max 24/7 high CPU clock.
I think your explanation is a little complicated so let's just do it the easy way:
1. Set your cpu ratio to auto
2. Go to the Advanced CPU Configuration Menu
3. Set Speedstep (last option) to disabled
4. Change cpu ratio to whatever you want. Done.
Nuckin_Futs
05-31-2008, 06:29 PM
Sorry, I didn't really catch wether or not he (angel_dustis) was overclocking or not. If YES, simply move FSB to anything over stock and EIST is disabled right off the bat no matter what ratio or previous EIST (Speed Step) setting.
XtremeTiramisu
06-01-2008, 04:26 AM
New Ballistix Tracers 1066 2x1GB Kit (Double Sided) - Pics
Received this brand new kit from Crucial as RMA for my previous kit.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/Tracer5.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/Tracer4.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/Tracer3.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/Tracer1.jpg
Maximus Formula Rev 1.03G (Rampage Formula 0403 BIOS)
Current 24/7 setting :)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/DDR2-1240.jpg
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 465
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400 or Auto (No real diff)
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1240
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Advance 350ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Advance 350ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 42
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled or Disabled (No significant diff)
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [6]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.47500
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65
DRAM Voltage : 2.14 (2.224v)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 0.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
philbrown23
06-01-2008, 07:37 AM
will this work for the maximus extreme??
MarcusFoX
06-01-2008, 08:07 AM
Will do ill keep you all updated it should only be a few days before I get my fittings in..
Well keep us posted, I couldn't get any feedback on mine so I will follow oyur questions and see where it goes. but as for my experience, it did oC too high on FSB. 450 was a challange and if on a divider, the voltages needed to keep it stable were usually higher then I am used to w/ even a Q6600. Although in some multi app cases, it really does shine and w/ little heat.
If and only when at stock or in Auto, simply disable in CPU features. If Overclocking, it is automatically disabled for you as soon as you move FSB up. I personally leave C1E enabled for daily usse. I sometimes (if I remember) disable it for benching. If your system is truely stable, it will be perfectly fine w/ C1E + TM1 mode (ASUS also locks out TM2 mode w/ C1E). Again, that may just be me but I have done it since the !925EX. Others are gonna likey tell you to disable just so you can see a max 24/7 high CPU clock.
AquaRelliux
06-01-2008, 12:10 PM
So far, but that is all the faster I usually run my system. :)
I think I am just a 3.8GHz guy! :cool:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7431/run29mh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Hey
I know to 100% that my system is stable with 2x1gb ballistix PC8500 ram, but ever since I put in a extra par of ram I still cant get it stable it randomly locks up on load or not any load sometimes. I have uped the vNB from 1.45v(this was stable with 2x1gb ram) to 1.63v now, I crashed on 1.59v before havent tried 1.63v yet but I am worried it wont be stable. NB temp sets arounf 45c full load with 1.63v. The Cpu is a Q9450 btw and I am running 2x 3870 in crossfire. Cpu, NB and both gfx are watercooled.
I am using bios 0403 and this is my settings:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.23150(yes it is stable 100% prime 10 hours and gaming 5 hours with 2x1gb ram it drops to 1.216v load)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.63
DRAM Voltage : 2.10(Everest says 2.16v)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.38(Everest says 1.28 is this accurate btw? I heard 1.4v could kill it and I dont want that)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto(Tried 0.67x but crashed in boot then and I heard before u should leave this on auto for 45nm cpus)
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
I hope I get some decent help and thx in advance guys
//Aqua
Grnfinger
06-01-2008, 12:44 PM
4x1GB will tax the NB harder you will need 1.55 volts or more. Get trfc off auto ( row refresh cycle time) set it to 55 or higher, I would start with 55 and adjust higher till the ram is stable. And I really doubt you will get it stable at 4-4-4-12, 5-5-5-15 would be more realalistic.
AquaRelliux
06-01-2008, 12:48 PM
Well I cant run my ram faster then 1000 mhz on whatever setting so 5-5-5-10 feels so slow:(
Grnfinger
06-01-2008, 01:00 PM
4x1GB should run at 1081 5-5-5-15-3-55-6-3 rather nicely.
AquaRelliux
06-01-2008, 02:29 PM
4x1GB should run at 1081 5-5-5-15-3-55-6-3 rather nicely.
Gonna try that then thx for the reply btw
Grnfinger
06-01-2008, 03:16 PM
Found this while sniffing around the net today, dunno how much weight I would give it but if the numbers are true...
http://images.ncix.com/forumimages/16B86DB6-9679-6010-E1F7E4DCB5CB8A35.jpg
That's quite possibly the most mis-leading graph I've ever seen.
And there's been some bad ones in the graphics card scene.
Grnfinger
06-01-2008, 03:53 PM
nvidia did the chart, so its going to be in there favour. and there using older catylist drivers against there newest so I would take it with a grain of salt yes.
I thought it was interesting
Amurtigress
06-01-2008, 04:00 PM
Hi folks,
I grabbed me a Q9300 M1 SLAWE the other day and retired my E6600 B2.
I am a lil disappointed so far, since I am stuck at FSB 440 (3.3 GHz). However I am not aiming at mad overclocks so much, I can live with 4x3.3 GHz. Still, I wonder if I overlooked something that could help me getting up higher.
FSB 445 leds to rather quick system crashes and 450 doesn't boot anymore, tho it posts and I get to see the BIOS. My chip seems to need 1.3375V to be stable...so I gave it an extra notch
Mobo: Maximus with Rampage BIOS 0403, Rev. 1.03G
BIOS settings:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7.5
FSB Frequency : 440
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 or 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-881
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : advanced 100 ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 5
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61
DRAM Voltage : 2.04
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54
South Bridge Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x (AUTO crashes in the Rampage bios)
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
I hope anybody could help a lil :shrug:
AquaRelliux
06-01-2008, 05:00 PM
My new memory settings got boosted from 8500mb/s to 9500mb/s in Everest woot:eek: Lets hope this is stable now atleast it puts some pressure off the NB NOT:P
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Boost lvl: 7
CPU Voltage : 1.23150(yes it is stable 100% prime 10 hours and gaming 5 hours with 2x1gb ram it drops to 1.216v load)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.63
DRAM Voltage : 2.10(Everest says 2.16v)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.38(Everest says 1.28 is this accurate btw? I heard 1.4v could kill it and I dont want that)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto(Tried 0.67x but crashed in boot then and I heard before u should leave this on auto for 45nm cpus)
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
OVERK|LL
06-01-2008, 05:05 PM
Very nice :up:
I'm making the jump to 8GB's shortly, just updating my GPU first and then I will join the 21st century and grab more ram.
How fast can you run the ram at 3.8GHz?
Have you figured out what you are going to in terms of RAM?
I've been extremely happy with how these Crucial Ballistix 667 sticks have clocked, but I want more RAM too and would be curious as to the OC capability of their 2GB sticks.... Specifically the Ballistix DDR2 800 kit, as I can get it really cheap wholesale.....
Flamingfart
06-01-2008, 06:03 PM
Hello everyone
Im a long time reader of these forums and this is my first post. I always overclocked my computers and on my previous CPU ( now in my wife box ) i reached a small 3.4 out of a E6700.. not bad. Now im running with a E8400 since they came out and these are my settings. I hope it will help others
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled - level 1
CPU Voltage : 1.35v ( CPUZ and everest report it at 1.33v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 1.94v ( Stock voltage is 1.9v)
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Enabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Enabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
System :
vista 64
Asus maximus Formula bios : 0907
4 Gig of Cheap Cosair XMS2 5-5-5-12 rated at 1.9v
400Mhz@450Mhz = 900Mhz cpu ratio 1:1
CPU E8400 3Ghz@4050Mhz on air
twins HD3870 in crossfire 865/1250mhz
Everest memory benchmark :
Read : 8479
Write : 9529
Copy : 6840
Latency :59.7 ns
two run of 3Dmark cpu run at 4.1Ghz
3DMark06 :18 675
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6275136
3DMark05 : 27026
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=4189293
system is rock solid since the last couple of months. Might need a small 40mm fan for the northbrige : 53C high load hot days.. 48-50c in winter. Funny thing : C1E support still works .. so im running at 2700Mhz at idle and 4050 Mhz high load
thx for any comments :)
Nuckin_Futs
06-02-2008, 02:44 AM
New problems with my MF on mF1004 and back to 65nm CPU. I jusr removed my new Q9450 to go back to E6750 for more testing. I did leave mobo socket open all day so may have got dust in socket or something because I didn't do anything othet then remove Q9450 and mount E6750 to same mobo/RAM on BETA BIOS 1004 wich had worked fine with each E6750, Q6600 and just recently Q9450 and now I have weird issues. System had lots of DET_RAM issues and even w/ swapped out OCZ Platinum (wich have worked in every ASUS mobo I had for past 3 yrs.
Two things were happening. 1st, I can poke around in CMOS for so long before BIOS would just lock up, cant change anything. This happened on various profiles even auto and default. Next after doing that for a few times, it then locked in a looped cycle of restarts, intermediate power off, pause, then attempt to power on and just as PWR and aux fans start to spin, it restarts and does this for several times (10+) then hangs on DET_RAM again.
I eventually got the failed checkrom menue but wasnt prepared so had to get PSP and Afudos to flash. So I figured I'd go for new 1201 since I had to flash. It was just as bad in the DET_RAM issues and hit or miss if it'd let me enter CMOS. looped restart was gone for now.
I decided to go back to 1004 since I knew it had worked before (same exact file I got few months back to use) and back to same thing again. Hanging at CPU_INT and restarting.
Anybody willing to repond to my question? Even if just an idea.
Thankx in advance if so.
Hi guys,
I am going to get 8GB of memory for my system. What do you think of these? G.SKILL F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI PC2-8500 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
or
Patriot Extreme Viper PVS24G8500ELKR2 4GB 2X2GB PC2-8500 DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Memory Kit
or
Mushkin Ascent PC2-8500 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
or
Corsair XMS2 Dominator TWIN2X4096-9136C5DF 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1142 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Memory Kit W/ Fan
Anyone recommend any others?
-hdpc
AquaRelliux
06-02-2008, 10:31 AM
4x1GB should run at 1081 5-5-5-15-3-55-6-3 rather nicely.
Still not stable it runs Prime for 10 hours but then it hangs in wow after like 1 hour gaming.... I dont know wtf to do to get it stable it runs nice on 800mhz 4-4-4-12 cpu in 400x8
This is the settings:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : +250
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : +250
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Boost lvl: 7
All this :banana::banana::banana::banana: here is disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.23750(yes it is stable 100% prime 10 hours and gaming 5 hours with 2x1gb ram it drops to 1.216v load)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65
DRAM Voltage : 2.14(Everest says 2.19v)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.38(Everest says 1.28 is this accurate btw? I heard 1.4v could kill it and I dont want that)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto(Tried 0.67x but crashed in boot then and I heard before u should leave this on auto for 45nm cpus)
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Talonman
06-02-2008, 11:47 AM
Hi guys,
I am going to get 8GB of memory for my system. What do you think of these? G.SKILL F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI PC2-8500 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
or
Patriot Extreme Viper PVS24G8500ELKR2 4GB 2X2GB PC2-8500 DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Memory Kit
or
Mushkin Ascent PC2-8500 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
or
Corsair XMS2 Dominator TWIN2X4096-9136C5DF 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1142 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Memory Kit W/ Fan
Anyone recommend any others?
-hdpc
My favorite RAM for the Maximus:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
My 8GB is still running just fine...
I think the Maximus does better with 5-5-5-15 RAM, rather than with running 5-5-5-12 RAM. (Especially if running 8GB's)
My favorite RAM for the Maximus:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
My 8GB is still running just fine...
I think the Maximus does better with 5-5-5-15 RAM, rather than with running 5-5-5-12 RAM. (Especiall if running 8GB's)
Thanks Talonman. I have looking at them right now.
-hdpc
Nuckin_Futs
06-02-2008, 12:41 PM
OK, so it's been a few months now. Who can say they found a worthy 2x 2g RAM kit to hold 1151 - 1200MHz on our MF? Any new resualts on the OCZ FLEX II for above rated 1151MHz?
Has anyone else with a Q9450 found that settings that work from a cold boot won't even boot XP from a reboot?
theonlybabyface
06-02-2008, 02:32 PM
My favorite RAM for the Maximus:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
My 8GB is still running just fine...
I think the Maximus does better with 5-5-5-15 RAM, rather than with running 5-5-5-12 RAM. (Especiall if running 8GB's)
I have to second that ram choice. Works flawless on the Maximus...:D
Flasker
06-02-2008, 02:55 PM
OK, so it's been a few months now. Who can say they found a worthy 2x 2g RAM kit to hold 1151 - 1200MHz on our MF? Any new resualts on the OCZ FLEX II for above rated 1151MHz?
I've been using the 2 x 2GB Flex II for a couple of weeks now, my set works well to 1200MHz and a little more if I really push them. :rolleyes:
You absolutely need the Rampage BIOS to run them that fast, without the option to adjust clock skew they would not climb over 1100MHz.
Leithfield
06-02-2008, 05:04 PM
I've been using the 2 x 2GB Flex II for a couple of weeks now, my set works well to 1200MHz and a little more if I really push them. :rolleyes:
You absolutely need the Rampage BIOS to run them that fast, without the option to adjust clock skew they would not climb over 1100MHz.
Can you please share the settings you use in the Rampage bios for this RAM; cheers.
AquaRelliux
06-02-2008, 06:15 PM
Can you please share the settings you use in the Rampage bios for this RAM; cheers.
I would like to see them all to tbh
Flasker
06-02-2008, 07:46 PM
Can you please share the settings you use in the Rampage bios for this RAM; cheers.
I would like to see them all to tbh
Here's several ss of the Flex II @ 1200MHz, different FSB/strap/dividers.
Running 4Gb @ this speed on the Maximus/Rampage comes down to NB stability, you may have to adjust the skew and/or NB voltage differently. It all depends on how good your NB is and the FSB your trying to run.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6969/flexii600pl5.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4269/pi32flex2iw5.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2954/100krz0.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4079/266ul2.jpg
This the set up for 400 x 9.5 on the 266 strap, but you can use whatever you need to for your CPU, the important thing is the timings and the skew.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/416/picture001hu4.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5552/picture003yj1.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2677/picture006gh6.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6572/picture008od1.jpg
wadec22
06-02-2008, 07:59 PM
ok guys, first, I just installed my maximus formula(from abit ip35-e) and have the rampage bios installed. have not re-installed vista, everything seems to be okay without a fresh install.
first question: speedfan is jacked, all over the place. is this b/c i'm running rampage bios on maximus or b/c i need a fresh os install?
second question: if speedfan just has trouble b/c of the bios, what temp monitor program should i use? i was using core temp for cpu cores and speedfan for pwm and northbridge.
lastly: what are the actual benefits of running the rampage bios on the maximus?
thanks! you have no idea how excited i am about the board. my q6600 g0 was limited to a 3.42 on my abit ip35-e with a hot pwm and northbridge with only 1.395 bios volts to get there. hoping to change all that. :)
Flasker
06-02-2008, 08:16 PM
I've never used Speedfan
The Rampage BIOS adds a number of adjustments over the Maximus, like skew and easy PL setting.
OVERK|LL
06-02-2008, 09:50 PM
OK, somebody needs to explain this, if possible:
With Rampage conversion:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/cachemem.png
Flashed back to Maximus:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/cachememmaximus.png
Settings are the same?????
aicjofs
06-02-2008, 10:45 PM
You should have compared chipset settings between versions in Everest as well.
It's more then likely a advanced memory timing that has changed. I mentioned earlier in the thread the fact the they changed Tref from 0308 to0401 rampage BIOS which made 0401 bandwidth less for example. I would assume this or another timing is different from the maximus to rampage you tried.
That is pretty significant and judging by latency I would say it's not Tref, but Trd(Performance Level). What was your transaction booster settings for each BIOS(i.e Performace level, boost level)
Post a screenshot of the chipset tab of Everest.
OVERK|LL
06-02-2008, 10:56 PM
You should have compared chipset settings between versions in Everest as well.
It's more then likely a advanced memory timing that has changed. I mentioned earlier in the thread the fact the they changed Tref from 0308 to0401 rampage BIOS which made 0401 bandwidth less for example. I would assume this or another timing is different from the maximus to rampage you tried.
That is pretty significant and judging by latency I would say it's not Tref, but Trd(Performance Level)
Post a screenshot of the chipset tab of Everest.
I'll go take a shot, do the flash to Rampage, and do the same.
Thanks for your input! It had me a bit concerned as I'm sure you can imagine! I thought it was pretty significant too :D
-Chris
OVERK|LL
06-02-2008, 11:17 PM
I'll go take a shot, do the flash to Rampage, and do the same.
Thanks for your input! It had me a bit concerned as I'm sure you can imagine! I thought it was pretty significant too :D
-Chris
OK, it was definitely Performance Level, it was on 8 on the Rampage by default, and 5 on the Maximus. There is one other setting, it's Read Delay Phase Adjust, but I cannot seem to find it in the BIOS. On Maximus it's +1, on Rampage it's Neutral currently, and I'm still seeing about 100MB/sec slower on Rampage....
aicjofs
06-02-2008, 11:26 PM
Read delay phase adjust I would think is the pull in's under transaction booster in Rampage BIOS.
I have to look at notes real quick. I have been working on the 780i for last week and the Perfomance Level Pull In's are slipping my mind right now....Nvidia chipset on my mind not Intel
OVERK|LL
06-02-2008, 11:51 PM
Read delay phase adjust I would think is the pull in's under transaction booster in Rampage BIOS.
I have to look at notes real quick. I have been working on the 780i for last week and the Perfomance Level Pull In's are slipping my mind right now....Nvidia chipset on my mind not Intel
Yup, definitely. I enabled pull-in on all of them, which gave me +7T and it's now 100MB/sec faster than the Maximus was. It did manage to hit 8606 on one test, but I foolishly didn't save it.
So, here's what we started out with:
Maximus:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/everestmaximus.jpg
Rampage:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/everestrampage.JPG
And then after pulling in those settings:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/everestrampage1.JPG
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/cachememrampage.png
Now I guess I need to run memtest on it...... Verify she's "safe" :D
philbrown23
06-02-2008, 11:52 PM
so nobody knows if this is will work for the maximus extreme?? I'm not sure because it's a ddr3 board and the rampage is ddr2?? anyone?!?!?
aicjofs
06-03-2008, 12:07 AM
Now I guess I need to run memtest on it...... Verify she's "safe"
Heh...see you didn't need my help at all you got it all figured out. :D
I'm suprised you were able to pull in all of the phases despite the low FSB, usually you only pull in one or two, if you pulled all of them in you bascially have changed the performance level to 4. If it's unstable for some reason go back and pull in less phases. Everyone keeps asking what the difference is between the Rampage and Formula BIOS and really you just played with it. Setting performance level directly without having to do the math of strap/transaction booster enable-disable/boost level in maximus and the abilty to adjust pull in directly.
Looking at you settings some other little tweaks to try are
Write Recovery Twr to 11 at least lower to 12
Read to Precharge Trtp to 4 maybe even 3
Write to Precharge Twtp to 11 at least lower to 12
Tref to 16383 should add a little more to your bandwidth
aicjofs
06-03-2008, 12:16 AM
so nobody knows if this is will work for the maximus extreme?? I'm not sure because it's a ddr3 board and the rampage is ddr2?? anyone?!?!?
What are you asking exactly? Will what work?
Dostoyevsky77
06-03-2008, 04:29 AM
OK, somebody needs to explain this, if possible:
With Rampage conversion:
(SNIP!)
Flashed back to Maximus:
(SNIP!)
Settings are the same?????
What BIOS revision was you using for the RF? Assuming 0403 and 1201 for MF, I am unable to replicate your situation. Can you explain what your PL was and if you had any pull-ins? And what are you using now for transaction booster? What are/were your clock twister settings?
TAOTAO161
06-03-2008, 05:40 AM
hi all,
There is some opinion on the two new bios, that on ASUS site ?
1.
Maximus Formula 1102 Bios
Fixed it can not enter the setup of some PCI-Express SATAII RAID Card
2.
Maximus Formula 1201 Bios
Improve Memory compatibility
the 2 is a BETA.
i use 1004, the new BIOS worth the update ?
dimsdale
06-03-2008, 06:47 AM
And why is it that the 1102 bios is newer than the 1201 bios? It's really confusing for Asus to be using lower numbers for successive releases.
Can anyone help explain?
hi all,
There is some opinion on the two new bios, that on ASUS site ?
1.
Maximus Formula 1102 Bios
Fixed it can not enter the setup of some PCI-Express SATAII RAID Card
2.
Maximus Formula 1201 Bios
Improve Memory compatibility
the 2 is a BETA.
i use 1004, the new BIOS worth the update ?
theonlybabyface
06-03-2008, 07:38 AM
Tref to 16383 should add a little more to your bandwidth
Wouldn't be able to set this at all anyways as there isn't a bios adjustment for this. That's why I'm still on 308...16383T is default for better bandwidth. :)
aicjofs
06-03-2008, 07:50 AM
Wouldn't be able to set this at all anyways as there isn't a bios adjustment for this. That's why I'm still on 308...16383T is default for better bandwidth. :)
Good point, you are right. I was thinking Memset on windows startup, or at least that's how I do it.
My favorite RAM for the Maximus:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
My 8GB is still running just fine...
I think the Maximus does better with 5-5-5-15 RAM, rather than with running 5-5-5-12 RAM. (Especially if running 8GB's)
Well I ordered 8GB of these G.SKILL DDR2-1000, and going to pick them up after work. :clap:
Which Bios do you recommend? Currently I have 403.
OVERK|LL
06-03-2008, 08:56 AM
What BIOS revision was you using for the RF? Assuming 0403 and 1201 for MF, I am unable to replicate your situation. Can you explain what your PL was and if you had any pull-ins? And what are you using now for transaction booster? What are/were your clock twister settings?
All fixed, was a PL setting.
theonlybabyface
06-03-2008, 09:07 AM
Well I ordered 8GB of these G.SKILL DDR2-1000, and going to pick them up after work. :clap:
Which Bios do you recommend? Currently I have 403.
I'd recommend 308 and here are your settings for 3.6 GHZ:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
C/P: A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 | B1 B2 B3 B4 B5
LVL: 07 07 07 07 07 | 07 07 07 07 07
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5: Enabled
CPU Voltage : 1.4375 (or whatever you need for 3.6 stable)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.92
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Support : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
If you can get settings any tighter, please let me know...
I'd recommend 308 and here are your settings for 3.6 GHZ:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
C/P: A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 | B1 B2 B3 B4 B5
LVL: 07 07 07 07 07 | 07 07 07 07 07
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5: Enabled
CPU Voltage : 1.4375 (or whatever you need for 3.6 stable)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.92
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Support : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
If you can get settings any tighter, please let me know...
Thanks. It looks like you are in BC or a fan of the Canucks. :up:
-hdpc
theonlybabyface
06-03-2008, 11:01 AM
Thanks. It looks like you are in BC or a fan of the Canucks. :up:
-hdpc
I am but ask me after Gillis does his thing. :D
philbrown23
06-03-2008, 11:06 AM
I'm asking if this rampage flash will work on the max. extreme
Grnfinger
06-03-2008, 11:52 AM
Have you figured out what you are going to in terms of RAM?
I've been extremely happy with how these Crucial Ballistix 667 sticks have clocked, but I want more RAM too and would be curious as to the OC capability of their 2GB sticks.... Specifically the Ballistix DDR2 800 kit, as I can get it really cheap wholesale.....
Sorry for the slow reply had my pc down for a day adding a PA 120.3 and a dual bay res to the loop. What a chore that was.
I'm going with Corsair myself ( already have the settings for what I know will work at 1174MHz) but Gskill will be a great kit, you wont be disapointed with them.
I'm asking if this rampage flash will work on the max. extreme
I doubt that it will work seeing as your board is DDR3
AquaRelliux
06-03-2008, 12:01 PM
Hey
I know to 100% that my system is stable with 2x1gb ballistix PC8500 ram, but ever since I put in a extra par of ram I still cant get it stable it randomly locks up on load or not any load sometimes. I have uped the vNB from 1.45v(this was stable with 2x1gb ram) to 1.63v now, I crashed on 1.59v before havent tried 1.63v yet but I am worried it wont be stable. NB temp sets arounf 45c full load with 1.63v. The Cpu is a Q9450 btw and I am running 2x 3870 in crossfire. Cpu, NB and both gfx are watercooled.
I am using bios 0403 and this is my settings:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.23150(yes it is stable 100% prime 10 hours and gaming 5 hours with 2x1gb ram it drops to 1.216v load)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.63
DRAM Voltage : 2.10(Everest says 2.16v)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.38(Everest says 1.28 is this accurate btw? I heard 1.4v could kill it and I dont want that)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto(Tried 0.67x but crashed in boot then and I heard before u should leave this on auto for 45nm cpus)
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
I hope I get some decent help and thx in advance guys
//Aqua
Still not getting it stable @ 1081 mhz 5-5-5-15-5-60-6-5 Grnfinger, Row Refresh Cycle Time is up to 60 now and still random crashes while gaming it is prime stable and fine idle for hours
Sources
06-03-2008, 12:32 PM
Still not getting it stable @ 1081 mhz 5-5-5-15-5-60-6-5 Grnfinger, Row Refresh Cycle Time is up to 60 now and still random crashes while gaming it is prime stable and fine idle for hours
Check and make sure both sets of your RAM match. (ie: both are dual sided dimms and both are same speed etc...)
I had to return the 2nd pair I bought since they were only single sided and did not mix with the dual sided for anything over 900mhz.
I have both dual sided pairs now running 1066 with ease.
Grnfinger
06-03-2008, 12:43 PM
Still not getting it stable @ 1081 mhz 5-5-5-15-5-60-6-5 Grnfinger, Row Refresh Cycle Time is up to 60 now and still random crashes while gaming it is prime stable and fine idle for hours
Are your prime stable small fft's or blend?
I agree with Sources, check your ram and make sure there the same version it wouldnt hurt to test each dimm separately with memtest if you have not done that yet, it would rule out the dimms.
Q9450's do need a ton of NB and PLL volts to get them stable
AquaRelliux
06-03-2008, 01:27 PM
Are your prime stable small fft's or blend?
I agree with Sources, check your ram and make sure there the same version it wouldnt hurt to test each dimm separately with memtest if you have not done that yet, it would rule out the dimms.
Q9450's do need a ton of NB and PLL volts to get them stable
They are same speccs but the cooler looks diffrent but they are both dubble sided. They work as in 2 sticks I ahve tested that and I know it is not a motherboard dimm problem. The PPL is 1.6v and NB is 1.65v
OVERK|LL
06-03-2008, 02:02 PM
Heh...see you didn't need my help at all you got it all figured out. :D
I'm suprised you were able to pull in all of the phases despite the low FSB, usually you only pull in one or two, if you pulled all of them in you bascially have changed the performance level to 4. If it's unstable for some reason go back and pull in less phases. Everyone keeps asking what the difference is between the Rampage and Formula BIOS and really you just played with it. Setting performance level directly without having to do the math of strap/transaction booster enable-disable/boost level in maximus and the abilty to adjust pull in directly.
Looking at you settings some other little tweaks to try are
Write Recovery Twr to 11 at least lower to 12
Read to Precharge Trtp to 4 maybe even 3
Write to Precharge Twtp to 11 at least lower to 12
Tref to 16383 should add a little more to your bandwidth
I will try those out this evening and see how it works :D
-Chris
philbrown23
06-03-2008, 02:42 PM
man thats a real bummer!
AquaRelliux
06-03-2008, 02:45 PM
Are your prime stable small fft's or blend?
I agree with Sources, check your ram and make sure there the same version it wouldnt hurt to test each dimm separately with memtest if you have not done that yet, it would rule out the dimms.
Q9450's do need a ton of NB and PLL volts to get them stable
I am stable in all prime tests
Grnfinger
06-03-2008, 03:27 PM
I am stable in all prime tests
Do you only crash in that game or does it happen randomly?
man thats a real bummer!
I could be wrong but I doubt it very much, maybe check with another member to sure but I think if you try it you'll brick your board
AquaRelliux
06-03-2008, 03:37 PM
Do you only crash in that game or does it happen randomly?
I could be wrong but I doubt it very much, maybe check with another member to sure but I think if you try it you'll brick your board
It happends in all games I play and it does not have to do with my gfx cards either buecause I tested that. Anyways ordered 2x2gb PC8500 dominator ram that should solve this
Still not getting it stable @ 1081 mhz 5-5-5-15-5-60-6-5 Grnfinger, Row Refresh Cycle Time is up to 60 now and still random crashes while gaming it is prime stable and fine idle for hours
Just for grins, try relaxing the tRAS to 18. Tony posted somewhere in this mammoth merged thread that OCZ found 18 was necessary when ram speed is over 1000. It's worth a try. :)
Grnfinger
06-03-2008, 04:16 PM
Its worth a try b4 buying more ram.
What version drivers are you running and what bios for your cards?
ZenEffect
06-03-2008, 05:22 PM
@ AquaRelliux.
how do you stress test a video card anyways? i found i can run 25+ loops of 3dmark06 @ 933/999 on my gfx however cod4 will crash within a half hour and i have to clock down the video cards to 900/966. is there a "stress test" that will max out the frame buffer to test the card completely?
@ Grnfinger.
how much did adding the 2nd rad drop the temps?
AquaRelliux
06-03-2008, 05:48 PM
Its worth a try b4 buying more ram.
What version drivers are you running and what bios for your cards?
The drivers are maximus drivers latest ones from asus site, and the 3870 cards run in 850/1271 and it is all fine if I downclock the ram to 800mhz so how can it be something else?
Grnfinger
06-03-2008, 05:57 PM
@ Grnfinger.
how much did adding the 2nd rad drop the temps?
I have a PA 120.3 and a Swiftech MC220, adding the PA 120.3 droppped temps 9C:D ( also added a dual bay res with a cool led:up:)
Now my rig looks messy, big ass rad hanging off the back.
Shopping for anew case to house the 120.3 internally, I dont think a MM case will fly right now, wife is still in sticker shock over the cost of the rad and res. So looking for something thats a little less $$
MomijiTMO
06-03-2008, 05:58 PM
I think ASUS is going mental [from Bit-tech (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/06/04/asus-rampage-extreme-niche-new-features/1)]
http://images.bit-tech.net/news_images/2008/06/asus-rampage-extreme-niche-new-features/1b.jpg
http://images.bit-tech.net/news_images/2008/06/asus-rampage-extreme-niche-new-features/article_img.jpg
http://images.bit-tech.net/news_images/2008/06/asus-rampage-extreme-niche-new-features/2b.jpg
Rampage Extreme good enough for you?
Grnfinger
06-03-2008, 06:22 PM
Looks like the P45 Maximus II
Is this DDR3 with dual bios and the auto raid0?
MomijiTMO
06-03-2008, 06:49 PM
Yeah it's DDR3 and has the auto raid. Don't know about dual bios as I can't see the chips in the photos.
Just look at the PWM cooling. #__#
OVERK|LL
06-03-2008, 06:59 PM
I think ASUS is going mental
http://images.bit-tech.net/news_images/2008/06/asus-rampage-extreme-niche-new-features/1b.jpg
http://images.bit-tech.net/news_images/2008/06/asus-rampage-extreme-niche-new-features/article_img.jpg
http://images.bit-tech.net/news_images/2008/06/asus-rampage-extreme-niche-new-features/2b.jpg
Rampage Extreme good enough for you?
Holy mother of God! I wish they had had THAT at the ASUS conference this year!!!!!
ZenEffect
06-03-2008, 07:01 PM
what is the little joystick thing? can i play pong in bios?
MomijiTMO
06-03-2008, 07:07 PM
You see, that is just stupid. Yeah woopi I don't need a keyboard in my bios. I just move this tiny joystick and hit these tiny buttons. . . .. -snap- OH NOEZ I broke it.
ZenEffect
06-03-2008, 07:27 PM
You see, that is just stupid. Yeah woopi I don't need a keyboard in my bios. I just move this tiny joystick and hit these tiny buttons. . . .. -snap- OH NOEZ I broke it.
track ball would be more durable... but then again, why would you go into bios w/o a keyboard present? set up your computer before your new kb and mouse arrive from newegg? all for bling and driving up the cost imo
MomijiTMO
06-03-2008, 07:33 PM
I couldn't agree with you more.
OVERK|LL
06-03-2008, 08:41 PM
track ball would be more durable... but then again, why would you go into bios w/o a keyboard present? set up your computer before your new kb and mouse arrive from newegg? all for bling and driving up the cost imo
It's for effect I think more than anything. Another "cool feature" that they are using to try and set themselves apart as the world's largest and most versatile motherboard manufacturer.
chawks2
06-03-2008, 09:37 PM
This was an adventure to say the least, but I was finally able to get a "sub-respectable" _stable_ oc.
Definitely not as easy as my IP35-Pro. The machine did 450x9 stable on air without batting an eye. It took a lot of time to get here on the MRF, but I have to say I am quite pleased with my new creation.
EDIT
Forgot to mention this was 8G.
Maximus "Rampage" Bios v0403 Settings
Ai Overclock Tuner: [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up: [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control: [8]
FSB Frequency: [485]
FSB Strap to North Bridge: [333]
PCIE Frequency: [102]
DRAM Frequency: [971]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Clock Skew Channel A:[Advance 300 ps]
DRAM Clock Skew Channel B:[Advance 300 ps]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
CAS# Latency: [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
RAS# To Ras# Delay: [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time: [50]
Write Recovery Time: [6]
Read To Precharge Time: [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D): [8]
Write To Read Delay(S): [3]
Write To Read Delay(D): [5]
Read To Read Delay(S): [4]
Read To Read Delay(D): [6]
Write To Write Delay(S): [4]
Write To Write Delay(D): [6]
?:[14]
?:[5]
?:[1]
?:[6]
?:[6]
DRAM Static Read Control: [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Stronger]
Transaction Booster: [Manual]
Common Performance Level: [9]
Pull-Ins-Disabled x 8
CPU Voltage: [1.47500v]
CPU PLL Voltage: [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage: [1.65v]
DRAM Voltage: [2.10v]
FSB Termination Voltage: [1.46v]
South Bridge Voltage: [1.100v]
SB 1.5:[1.5v]
Loadline Calibration: [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference: [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference: [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage: [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage: [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage: [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage: [Auto]
NB LED Selection: NB Volt
SB LED Selection: SB Volt
CPU LED Selection: CPU Volt
Voltimeter LED: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Maximus "Rampage" Bios v0403 Settings
SS:
http://www.chawks2.com/images/Puter/485x9.MRF.jpg
The new P45 board is just ridiculous. :shocked:
Nuckin_Futs
06-03-2008, 11:06 PM
You see, that is just stupid. Yeah woopi I don't need a keyboard in my bios. I just move this tiny joystick and hit these tiny buttons. . . .. -snap- OH NOEZ I broke it.
track ball would be more durable... but then again, why would you go into bios w/o a keyboard present? set up your computer before your new kb and mouse arrive from newegg? all for bling and driving up the cost imo
I couldn't agree with you more.
Dee Dee Dee! Have we not heard of bench testing and set up, Old school, the way we have always done it. Why waste all that time mounting, wiring everything and getting all comfy if you still end up having to remove it for another "dee dee dee" or a double check, or just for the ease of trying different CPU's and or cooling blocks. I've had boards benching and working for almost a month before fitting intop a case.
OVERK|LL
06-04-2008, 12:43 AM
Heh...see you didn't need my help at all you got it all figured out. :D
I'm suprised you were able to pull in all of the phases despite the low FSB, usually you only pull in one or two, if you pulled all of them in you bascially have changed the performance level to 4. If it's unstable for some reason go back and pull in less phases. Everyone keeps asking what the difference is between the Rampage and Formula BIOS and really you just played with it. Setting performance level directly without having to do the math of strap/transaction booster enable-disable/boost level in maximus and the abilty to adjust pull in directly.
Looking at you settings some other little tweaks to try are
Write Recovery Twr to 11 at least lower to 12
Read to Precharge Trtp to 4 maybe even 3
Write to Precharge Twtp to 11 at least lower to 12
Tref to 16383 should add a little more to your bandwidth
OK, I made these changes and the effects seemed to be minimal. As was mentioned by somebody else, I guess I can't change the Tref eh?
Damn :D
Anyways, since you said my pull-ins put me at PL4, I just turned them all off and put it at PL4. Passes memtest without issue. BUT, I adjust either the 1st pull-in for both channels to enabled, and she won't post, so it looks like I've found the limit.
Here's what the throughput looks like now:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/cachememtimings.png
And the settings look MOSTLY like this, with the exception that PL is now 4 and we have NEUTRAL as the value for Read Delay Phase Adjust, and that seems to be all it will take.
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/everestrampage2.JPG
scottath
06-04-2008, 01:05 AM
I think ASUS is going mental [from Bit-tech (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/06/04/asus-rampage-extreme-niche-new-features/1)]
http://images.bit-tech.net/news_images/2008/06/asus-rampage-extreme-niche-new-features/1b.jpg
http://images.bit-tech.net/news_images/2008/06/asus-rampage-extreme-niche-new-features/article_img.jpg
http://images.bit-tech.net/news_images/2008/06/asus-rampage-extreme-niche-new-features/2b.jpg
Rampage Extreme good enough for you?
Who is going to be the first dare devil to flash their P5E/Maximus/Rampage to that monsters bios?
I love the board though - pitty i would have to cover it with my 2 HD3870's if i got it :(
Im getting BSOD in games and ive run memtest and getting errors test 2 test 4 and test 7 on seperate runnings of the test.
Is my ram screwed? I posted on OCZ support forum but admin says that this might not mean ram is bad?
I had system @ 3ghz from december to about a month or two ago and then upped it to 3.3ghz a month ago and the BSOD have been happening in the last couple of weeks. I went back to 3ghz and BSOD still happening as well as errors in memtest.
Any ideas?
I'd recommend 308 and here are your settings for 3.6 GHZ:
Hi,
I installed the the RAMs last night, but I am not having any luck OCing. I follow your template but getting OC failing (Det Ram). I noticed there are a few things different than yours.
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to PRE Delay: AUTO <---- I have these as well (start here)
READ to Pre Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO <---- end here
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
C/P: A1 A2 | B1 B2 <---- Different than yours (Am I missing something?)
LVL: 04 05 | 04 05 <---- Different than yours (Am I missing something?)
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Enabled <---- also different due to above setting
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Enabled
CPU Voltage : 1.4375 (or whatever you need for 3.6 stable)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.92
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Support : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
Thanks
-hdpc
theonlybabyface
06-04-2008, 08:15 AM
Hi,
I installed the the RAMs last night, but I am not having any luck OCing. I follow your template but getting OC failing (Det Ram). I noticed there are a few things different than yours.
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1080
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to Pre Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In's --> All Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.4375 (or whatever you need for 3.6 stable)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.92
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : 67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Support : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
Thanks
-hdpc
Try the changes above as I managed to tweak just a little bit more...and the bandwidth is great!!!
ghost_recon88
06-04-2008, 08:27 AM
Who is going to be the first dare devil to flash their P5E/Maximus/Rampage to that monsters bios?
Can that even happen considering it uses DDR3?
Try the changes above as I managed to tweak just a little bit more...and the bandwidth is great!!!
Thanks I will give that a go tonight.
-hdpc
cadaveca
06-04-2008, 08:56 AM
Im getting BSOD in games and ive run memtest and getting errors test 2 test 4 and test 7 on seperate runnings of the test.
Is my ram screwed? I posted on OCZ support forum but admin says that this might not mean ram is bad?
I had system @ 3ghz from december to about a month or two ago and then upped it to 3.3ghz a month ago and the BSOD have been happening in the last couple of weeks. I went back to 3ghz and BSOD still happening as well as errors in memtest.
Any ideas?
Ram timings are toast.You can get this problem running Micron 2gb sticks as well as hynix, if TRFC/TREF is not correct.
Grnfinger
06-04-2008, 02:21 PM
Hi,
I installed the the RAMs last night, but I am not having any luck OCing. I follow your template but getting OC failing (Det Ram). I noticed there are a few things different than yours.
C/P: A1 A2 | B1 B2 <---- Different than yours (Am I missing something?)
LVL: 04 05 | 04 05 <---- Different than yours (Am I missing something?)
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Enabled <---- also different due to above setting
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Enabled
-hdpc
Your PL level is wrong thats why you have a Det Dram hang.
I would recommend you disable the pull ins and set your PL manually
Your PL level is wrong thats why you have a Det Dram hang.
I would recommend you disable the pull ins and set your PL manually
Hi there Grnfinger,
Hope things goes well for ya! K, I will give that ago when I get home.
Cheers,
-hdpc
Try the changes above as I managed to tweak just a little bit more...and the bandwidth is great!!!
I've tried it and still get the Det Ram hang.
Your PL level is wrong thats why you have a Det Dram hang.
I would recommend you disable the pull ins and set your PL manually
I am still having no luck.
Can you guys think of anything else? Thanks.
-hdpc
Grnfinger
06-04-2008, 05:38 PM
post your current bios setting?
try setting dram static, clock twister,and booster to AUTO, see if it boots then
if it does check your trd ( performance level) setting in everest
post your current bios setting?
try setting dram static, clock twister,and booster to AUTO, see if it boots then
if it does check your trd ( performance level) setting in everest
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to Pre Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In's --> All Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.4375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.92
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : 67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Support : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
I've also set dram static, clock twister,and booster to AUTO but I still get Det Ram.
-hdpc
Grnfinger
06-04-2008, 06:24 PM
up your ram volts to 2.1?
Votage is rated for 2.0 - 2.1
Zucker2k
06-04-2008, 06:35 PM
up your ram volts to 2.1?
Votage is rated for 2.0 - 2.1
It's definitely ram. First, change AI Clock Twister to AUTO or at most moderate
Up NB to 1.55v
up your ram volts to 2.1?
Votage is rated for 2.0 - 2.1
I've set DRAM Voltage : 2.1 but still no luck.
It's definitely ram. First, change AI Clock Twister to AUTO or at most moderate
Up NB to 1.55v
AI Clock Twister is set to AUTO
NB voltage is set to 1.55v
With both of those changes, I am not having any luck. :(
Thanks.
Zucker2k
06-04-2008, 07:55 PM
AI Clock Twister is set to AUTO
NB voltage is set to 1.55v
With both of those changes, I am not having any luck. :(
Thanks.
Ok, since I have the exact ram you're running, also in 4x2gb let me say this. 1081 is really really pushing them over the edge, especially with a quadcore. I bet 1066 will run with 2.1v vdimm as Grnfinger suggested. At 1066, you may even be able to drop the performance level to 7.
You can forget high fsb and run 9x400 and 1066 on ram PL6.
zlojack
06-04-2008, 08:14 PM
I haven't been getting updates from this thread lately. How's the 0403 bios for the Rampage hack? I'm still on 0308.
aicjofs
06-04-2008, 09:50 PM
AI Clock Twister is set to AUTO
NB voltage is set to 1.55v
With both of those changes, I am not having any luck. :(
Thanks.
I've had 3 different sets of this RAM now, and you are hitting the top. I'm suprised it's not POSTing and least.
Have you pulled 2 sticks out and ran 2x2GB just to see where the weakness is? I'd try that just to see how much each set can do alone. Made any skew adjustments(Advanced 300 or 350)?
If you want to translate this Everest to BIOS settings you can try this, it worked with 2x2gb. If I didn't maunally adjust settings and just left them auto there was a few settings that wouldn't let me hit 565 until I adjusted manually.
http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/ram550.jpg
aicjofs
06-04-2008, 09:57 PM
Hear is a question that was maybe answered in this monster thread. Can we just share BIOS profile files for same revision BIOS? I had 2 boards here and never got around to trying USB flash swap of profiles between machines. SOmetimes I write down setting that worked and other times I don't would be nice to just name the fle and share the file.
scottath
06-04-2008, 10:19 PM
I haven't been getting updates from this thread lately. How's the 0403 bios for the Rampage hack? I'm still on 0308.
It's fine - i did it last night - all went perfectly - havent really noticed any differences with my system though
theonlybabyface
06-04-2008, 10:25 PM
I've had 3 different sets of this RAM now, and you are hitting the top. I'm suprised it's not POSTing and least.
Have you pulled 2 sticks out and ran 2x2GB just to see where the weakness is? I'd try that just to see how much each set can do alone. Made any skew adjustments(Advanced 300 or 350)?
If you want to translate this Everest to BIOS settings you can try this, it worked with 2x2gb. If I didn't maunally adjust settings and just left them auto there was a few settings that wouldn't let me hit 565 until I adjusted manually.
http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/ram550.jpg
Can you post your full bios settings? I want to hit 550 but can only max out at 540 :confused:
theonlybabyface
06-04-2008, 10:30 PM
Also, good link to pdf with settings...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2773681#post2773681
Factotum
06-05-2008, 02:50 AM
i''m tested Q6600 now. About CPU:
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7938/vidat6.th.gif (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vidat6.gif)
VID=1.313 :(
On 450*8 this CPU demands for stable Vcore=1.54. My aircooling don't copes for 450*8 when set Vcore=1.54
But down i found stable for my Q6600 on aircooling:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2815/gifgg8.th.gif (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gifgg8.gif)
Bios RF0308
AI Clocker Tuner: [Manual]
CPU Ratio Control: [8]
FSB Strap for North Brige: [400]
FSB Frequency: [430]
Dram Frequency: [1146]
PCIE: [100]
DRAM Command Rate : [2T]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : [Normal]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : [Normal]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
CAS# Latency : [5]
RAS# to CAS# Delay : [5]
RAS# Precharge : [5]
RAS# ActivateTime : [12]
RAS# to RAS# Delay : [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time : [Auto]
Write Recovery Time : [Auto]
Read to Precharge Time : [Auto]
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : [Auto]
Write to Read Delay (S) : [Auto]
Write to Read Delay (D) : [Auto]
Read to Read Delay (S) : [Auto]
Read to Read Delay (D) : [Auto]
Write to Write Delay (S) : [Auto]
Write to Write Delay (D) : [Auto]
Write to PRE Delay : [Auto]
Read to PRE Delay : [Auto]
PRE to PRE Delay : [Auto]
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : [Auto]
ALL PRE to REF Delay : [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control: [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister : [Stronger]
Transaction Booster : [Manual]
C/P: A1 A2 A3 | B1 B2 B3
LVL: 6 6 6 | 6 6 6
Common Performance Level [6]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
CPU Voltage : [1.45]
CPU PLL Voltage : [1.5] - change not affected for stable Vcore
North Bridge Voltage : [1.45]
DRAM Voltage [2.16]
FSB Termination Voltage : [1.3] - change not affected for stable Vcore
South Bridge Voltage : [1.1]
Loadline Calibration : [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference : [0.67X]
North Bridge GTL Reference : [0.67X]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : [DDR2_REF]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : [DDR2_REF]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage : [1.5]
NB LED Selection : [NB Volt]
SB LED Selection : [SB Volt]
CPU LED Selection : [CPU Volt]
Voltiminder LED : [Disabled]
CPU Spread Spectrum : [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum : [Disabled]
Zucker2k
06-05-2008, 05:55 AM
Anyone with the 1066 rated G.Skills? Care sharing a dump file? Thanks.
Ok, since I have the exact ram you're running, also in 4x2gb let me say this. 1081 is really really pushing them over the edge, especially with a quadcore. I bet 1066 will run with 2.1v vdimm as Grnfinger suggested. At 1066, you may even be able to drop the performance level to 7.
You can forget high fsb and run 9x400 and 1066 on ram PL6.
Even with 9x400 and 1066 on PL6, mine doesn't still doesn't work.
I've had 3 different sets of this RAM now, and you are hitting the top. I'm suprised it's not POSTing and least.
Have you pulled 2 sticks out and ran 2x2GB just to see where the weakness is? I'd try that just to see how much each set can do alone. Made any skew adjustments(Advanced 300 or 350)?
If you want to translate this Everest to BIOS settings you can try this, it worked with 2x2gb. If I didn't maunally adjust settings and just left them auto there was a few settings that wouldn't let me hit 565 until I adjusted manually.
http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/ram550.jpg
Ok I will give that a go.
Also everytime I make any changes to the bios, when save and exit, mine never post. I always have to turn off and on before I see the OC failed message.
-hdpc
Factotum
06-05-2008, 09:12 AM
HDPC
may be playing with DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A / DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B help for you. And You сan tested different bios - RF0403 have greater compatibility for DDR
HDPC
may be playing with DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A / DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B help for you. And You сan tested different bios - RF0403 have greater compatibility for DDR
Thanks Factotum,
I will give a 403 a try, and play around with the DRAM skew.
-hdpc
Grnfinger
06-05-2008, 12:55 PM
Thanks Factotum,
I will give a 403 a try, and play around with the DRAM skew.
-hdpc
run 9x400 set the ram to 800MHz 5-5-5-18 auto the rest of the timings.
1.49NB volts is way to low for 8GBs. set to 1.55 for now.
set Trans booster clock twister, dram static all to auto,
now boot the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:, if it still wont go, then you must have mis matchd ram or the overclocking gods are not smiling on you
run 9x400 set the ram to 800MHz 5-5-5-18 auto the rest of the timings.
1.49NB volts is way to low for 8GBs. set to 1.55 for now.
set Trans booster clock twister, dram static all to auto,
now boot the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:, if it still wont go, then you must have mis matchd ram or the overclocking gods are not smiling on you
Thanks again Grnfinger,
At this point, I do anything to get this sucker OC. :p:
-hdpc
This is probably a stupid question to ask. :shrug:
I've bought 2 sets of these G.SKILL DDR2-1000 PC2-8000. Now does it matter that set 1 and set 2 can be mixed up? Meaning do I have to put set 1 in the blues, and set 2 in the white? If that is the case, I didn't do it. :shakes:
-hdpc <---noob
Grnfinger
06-05-2008, 01:35 PM
let us know how you make out, come hell or high water will get this thing running
yes please put the same ram in the same slots
let us know how you make out, come hell or high water will get this thing running
yes please put the same ram in the same slots
K, I will put them on the proper slot tonight.
-hdpc
trt740
06-05-2008, 02:06 PM
My computer randomly restarts like someone has pushed the power button. It started just the otherday. Also after it happens if I run mem test and I get ram errors. However if I power down, shut the computer off I am fine and pass mem test again. I can then use the computer for several hours but it starts happening again? Is anyone else having this problem. This happens with on stick of ram in or two sticks , unoverclocked system or stock clocked system it doesn't matter? Help!!!! :shocked:
theonlybabyface
06-05-2008, 02:57 PM
run 9x400 set the ram to 800MHz 5-5-5-18 auto the rest of the timings.
1.49NB volts is way to low for 8GBs. set to 1.55 for now.
set Trans booster clock twister, dram static all to auto,
now boot the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:, if it still wont go, then you must have mis matchd ram or the overclocking gods are not smiling on you
I have my 8 GB's running great and my NB is 1.49v...:)
run 9x400 set the ram to 800MHz 5-5-5-18 auto the rest of the timings.
1.49NB volts is way to low for 8GBs. set to 1.55 for now.
set Trans booster clock twister, dram static all to auto,
now boot the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:, if it still wont go, then you must have mis matchd ram or the overclocking gods are not smiling on you
let us know how you make out, come hell or high water will get this thing running
yes please put the same ram in the same slots
With bios 308, using the suggested above, I am still having no luck. And the rams are properly put in the proper slot this time. I think you are right OC gods does not like me. :P
Going to give 403 a try now.
Grnfinger
06-05-2008, 06:13 PM
With bios 308, using the suggested above, I am still having no luck. And the rams are properly put in the proper slot this time. I think you are right OC gods does not like me. :P
Going to give 403 a try now.
pull 2 stick and run 1 kit and see if it will boot, then try the other kit seperately.
run 9x400 set the ram to 800MHz 5-5-5-18 auto the rest of the timings.
1.49NB volts is way to low for 8GBs. set to 1.55 for now.
set Trans booster clock twister, dram static all to auto,
now boot the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:, if it still wont go, then you must have mis matchd ram or the overclocking gods are not smiling on you
Ok I flashed bios to 403; and with the above setting, it posted and start to boot up Windows but it kept rebooting during the windows load screen.
This is what I have:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.4375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : 67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Support : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
pull 2 stick and run 1 kit and see if it will boot, then try the other kit seperately.
Should I still pull out the 2 sticks?
-hdpc
Factotum
06-05-2008, 06:44 PM
HDPC
Ai Clock Twister : [moderate?]
Transaction Booster - not in Rampage Bios/ try Common Performance Level [6?/7?/8?]
Pull-In of CH.. - all Set in disabled
Should I still pull out the 2 sticks? try it.
Talonman
06-06-2008, 04:47 AM
HDPC, Your FSB voltage looks low to me?
Here is my 1004 Bios settings.
Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 424
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-848MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.53750v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.65v's.)
DRAM Voltage : 1.96v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 2.10v's.)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.55v's.)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.09v's.)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.57v's.)
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
HDPC
Ai Clock Twister : [moderate?]
Transaction Booster - not in Rampage Bios/ try Common Performance Level [6?/7?/8?]
Pull-In of CH.. - all Set in disabled
try it.
I did set Ai Transaction Booster to moderate, with PL 6/7/8 and it does post but kept reboot my system during Windows Vista loading screen. I see a BSOD for a split second but it happen so fast.
I have a new problem though. Even with default settings, my pc kept rebooting now. I can't get into windows anymore. Is this a memory thing or a Windows thing? Windows was running fine though. I guess my next step is to try 2 sticks at a time.
HDPC, Your FSB voltage looks low to me?
Here is my 1004 Bios settings.
Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 424
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-848MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.53750v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.65v's.)
DRAM Voltage : 1.96v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 2.10v's.)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.55v's.)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.09v's.)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.57v's.)
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
Thanks Talonman, I will give this a try when my system is up and running.
-hdpc
Factotum
06-06-2008, 11:50 AM
Here is my 1004 Bios settings.:eek: crazy voltages.
Factotum
06-06-2008, 02:42 PM
on russian overclockers forum tested 8096 Mb <Mushkin Redline 8000> on Maximus Formula (bios 0907) now. Nice frequency, but PL=11 - may be NB=1.45 don't set way to low PL
Grnfinger
06-06-2008, 02:48 PM
PL11?
that must run like a dog
and at 76c you wont have that chip very long
aicjofs
06-06-2008, 03:20 PM
PL11?
that must run like a dog
and at 76c you wont have that chip very long
Yeah 11 seems a bit excessive. :eek: Don't agree with the temp thing though, it looks like 1.25v unless it's a sensor error. All well within Intel spec for temp and voltage. Too hot for me and you yes, but not going to kill the chip earlier then he's going to own it.
@HDPC
Since we all seem to think your issue is a RAM problem. If you are POSTing now you should really break out Memtest86+. Just run Test 5(I think it's like press 1 then 3 then 5, then 0 to continue) it will show errors the fastest. Personally it still sounds like a funky stick, but we won't know until you try one set at a time...
PL11?
that must run like a dog
and at 76c you wont have that chip very long
Just thought I'd point out he's running Realtemp 2.60 in the same screenie. It's showing 67C which shouldn't be an issue. ;) MHO anyway. :)
Grnfinger
06-06-2008, 04:31 PM
you enjoy your 67c temps glad you find them ok.
I'll stick to my 26c idle and 48c load temps running 4400MHZ@1.45volts
Leeghoofd
06-06-2008, 04:38 PM
Ok I flashed bios to 403; and with the above setting, it posted and start to boot up Windows but it kept rebooting during the windows load screen.
This is what I have:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO --> Disable
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO --> Disable
CPU Voltage : 1.4375 --> Up to 1.5 then go lower
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : 67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
Try those changes plz and report back
aussie-revhead
06-06-2008, 04:45 PM
Leeghoofd - thanks for your input over recent weeks but I have jumped ship and you will find me in the 790i threads now.
:up:
Leeghoofd
06-06-2008, 04:50 PM
Leeghoofd - thanks for your input over recent weeks but I have jumped ship and you will find me in the 790i threads now.
:up:
BETRAYOR :rofl: Hope you have a good ride there mate... I will never ever go back Nvidia... at last they have found a workaround again for their data corruption issues... stuff like that should be extremely rare...
Good luck mate :up:
Factotum
06-06-2008, 04:58 PM
I'll stick to my 26c idle and 48c load temps running 4400MHZ@1.45voltsheh. Use you water?
76c - close case and aircooling, but my E8200@500*8@1.26825 (monitoring 1.256) have 36 idle and 53-55 in Prime Blend Test :)
Now man looking for a way to lower PL
I think my bios is corrupted.
I just removed 2 sticks out of my system, but I am getting the following message at bootup:
Boot Block Compatible Version Ver.024
Please do NOT insert any disc into CD-ROM or Floppy drive
if you want to recovery with an USB device.
Bad BIOS checksum. Starting BIOS Recovery...
Checking for CD-ROM...
CD-ROM not found!
Checking for USB device...
I have my bootable device plugged in but nothing is happening.
After I remove those 2 sticks and put in my other 2 and it worked, as well as my old OCZ.
Can those two sticks be bad?
Thanks,
-hdpc
I think my bios is corrupted.
I just removed 2 sticks out of my system, but I am getting the following message at bootup:
Boot Block Compatible Version Ver.024
Please do NOT insert any disc into CD-ROM or Floppy drive
if you want to recovery with an USB device.
Bad BIOS checksum. Starting BIOS Recovery...
Checking for CD-ROM...
CD-ROM not found!
Checking for USB device...
I have my bootable device plugged in but nothing is happening.
After I remove those 2 sticks and put in my other 2 and it worked, as well as my old OCZ.
Can those two sticks be bad?
I've also moved these two sticks to other white slots and samething happen.
Thanks,
-hdpc
Titus
06-06-2008, 06:21 PM
a couple of weeks ago I flashed to BIOS 1201, which was listed on the official ASUS website as a final version...I just checked again today and BIOS 1201 is listed as a Beta BIOS, while a new BIOS 1102 is listed as the final version
plus the 1102 BIOS has a newer date then the 1201 BIOS...anyone know what the deal is?
you enjoy your 67c temps glad you find them ok.
I'll stick to my 26c idle and 48c load temps running 4400MHZ@1.45volts
Since ambients weren't mentioned...some of us have to deal with 95-100 degree F for extended Summer periods during 24/7 use. If you can get 48C at 100 degree Fahrenheit 100% load, share your secrets please! All i'm saying is 67C 24/7 won't kill his proc. :yepp:
lol, I hope you guys cooking your chips don't play games, I love winter :yepp:
ZenEffect
06-06-2008, 06:59 PM
Since ambients weren't mentioned...some of us have to deal with 95-100 degree F for extended Summer periods during 24/7 use. If you can get 48C at 100 degree Fahrenheit 100% load, share your secrets please! All i'm saying is 67C 24/7 won't kill his proc. :yepp:
wouldnt be a secret if he told you now would it :p:
lol, I hope you guys cooking your chips don't play games, I love winter :yepp:
:up: Folding isn't a game. It's a choice. And Folder's love Winter too. :) We survive Summer. I have a 3 year old AMD X2-4800 lappy with no cooling alternatives that has survived 3 Summers at 72C. Still running strong. If anything Intel's are more robust. I'm not advocating high temps. The lower the better. Some just have to play the hand they are dealt. ;) The 9450 in my sig hit 74C on a 103F day. And that's with high end water. 80cfm fans on the PA 120.2 and 110 cfm on the DD GTX 240 rev 2 I'll probably upgrade the D-tech Fuzion v1 with a v2 in an effort to get under 70C with ambients maxed.
Nehalem is around the corner. Almost time for multiple upgrades though. :p:
Hockster
06-06-2008, 10:32 PM
Anyone else have their LCD poster crap out? Mine looks like a cheap wristwatch after you drop it in the sink.
Guacamole
06-06-2008, 11:29 PM
Hello guys I just built a Maximus Formula into my back up rig with an E8400 and some D9 Crucial 1066 and I am having trouble with memory performance or the lack there of, does anybody know the trick to getting 12,000 read and low latency with this board?? I can't seem to do any better than 9,800 or so very dissapointed what am I missing?? Bios 1003
Dynacore
06-07-2008, 12:43 AM
What would be the fastest setting?
9x411= 3,7Ghz
Running ram on tight timings:
4-4-4-12
ai booster strong
perf.lvl. 7
Command rate 1N
or 9x422= 3,8Ghz
But timings must be :
5-5-5-18
ai booster light
perf.lvl. 8
Command rate 2N
Seems like my memory can't handle 844Mhz on tight settings, so wondering if it would still be faster? No time to bench yet.
Leeghoofd
06-07-2008, 12:48 AM
Why don't you run everest benchmark or sisoft sandra yaself... I think regarding rambandwith & latency n1 will be faster... but never sure unless you post results :)
I've also moved these two sticks to other white slots and samething happen.
Thanks,
-hdpc
you prolly got one bad stick in that pair... time to test them each individually...
Dynacore
06-07-2008, 01:45 AM
You were right first settings were faster when tested with sandra. Guess I'm gonna have to upgrade to a E8400 or E8500 or some faster ram, if I ever want more.
Leeghoofd
06-07-2008, 02:12 AM
You were right first settings were faster when tested with sandra. Guess I'm gonna have to upgrade to a E8400 or E8500 or some faster ram, if I ever want more.
Got some Mushkin PC8000 Redline going, dead cheap for a 4gb at 80 euro's and they do 1066Mhz at 1.92volts :) even with an E8400/8500 your current ram will cripple your FSB attempts... and running 1:1 is not always the fastest option (powerlevel related)
Go go Neighbour :up:
Dynacore
06-07-2008, 02:37 AM
I know dude, this is more like my final attempts to pull some more performance out of this "old timer" before I do the unavoidable upgrade. I'm thinking to buy some new memory first and see if my CPU will keep going, if needed upgrade to 45nm. My RF won't be going anywhere :)
Talonman
06-07-2008, 03:48 AM
:eek: crazy voltages.
On what?
Grnfinger
06-07-2008, 06:34 AM
Since ambients weren't mentioned...some of us have to deal with 95-100 degree F for extended Summer periods during 24/7 use. If you can get 48C at 100 degree Fahrenheit 100% load, share your secrets please! All i'm saying is 67C 24/7 won't kill his proc. :yepp:
lol if you want to sit in a room at 100F:shocked: then buy all means I will share my secret with you.
Looking at your hardware you have a nice fat wallet so this should not be to hard to achive.
Take 88 bucks and go to wal-mart and grab a AIR CONDITIONER, now not only will you be nice and cool so will all that hardware:rofl::ROTF::rofl:
On a serious note tho I would'nt want my chip running that high 24/7, everyone is different. Regardless on how long you plan to keep it having your cpu hot enough to cook your breakfast on is a problem in my book.
Oh and btw my ambiant air ( wich everyone was so quick to point out ) is 72F:D
Dostoyevsky77
06-07-2008, 06:44 AM
Kekeke!!!
I wish I could have ambient at 72(c) 24/7. Yesterday, it was 82 in here with the A/C on full. Funny, though: system temps increase by only 5(c) with a 10(c) difference.
I hate overclocking in Florida.
By0T0xN
06-07-2008, 07:25 AM
Hello guys I just built a Maximus Formula into my back up rig with an E8400 and some D9 Crucial 1066 and I am having trouble with memory performance or the lack there of, does anybody know the trick to getting 12,000 read and low latency with this board?? I can't seem to do any better than 9,800 or so very dissapointed what am I missing?? Bios 1003
That's about all I could squeeze out of mine too. :(
Guacamole
06-07-2008, 08:00 AM
That's about all I could squeeze out of mine too. :(
Somebody help me please how can I get some bandwith out of my memory?? I am running at 450 FSB STrong enbled 0 and memory at 1200 but still only 9,800 in everest?? I am sure there is a way to dial it in but the thread is 231 pages long any have a shortcut???:D
chawks2
06-07-2008, 08:24 AM
Somebody help me please how can I get some bandwith out of my memory??
Experiment with Performance Levels. It will put you over the hump.
Grnfinger
06-07-2008, 08:55 AM
Kekeke!!!
I wish I could have ambient at 72(c) 24/7. Yesterday, it was 82 in here with the A/C on full. Funny, though: system temps increase by only 5(c) with a 10(c) difference.
I hate overclocking in Florida.
Our AC was down for two weeks, when the AC guy came back turns out our central air was still under warranty:up: So we opted to pay alittle extra for a new model, its about 12,000BTU's more than we need so it gets very cold in our house very fast if I so choose.
But in good old Canada we dont get crazy hot like in Florida:D all tho it is a muggy 29c here today with alot of humidity.
aicjofs
06-07-2008, 10:37 AM
Hello guys I just built a Maximus Formula into my back up rig with an E8400 and some D9 Crucial 1066 and I am having trouble with memory performance or the lack there of, does anybody know the trick to getting 12,000 read and low latency with this board?? I can't seem to do any better than 9,800 or so very dissapointed what am I missing?? Bios 1003
I don't think I have seen much 12000 read speed in Everest(if at all). In fact most recently the highest I have seen stable is the mid 10,000. I think Zucker at 530 or so FSB had 11000 in write and copy but read was less. I have a 780i board can get 12000 linked/sync on DDR2 4-3-3 with mid 400FSB, but no where close on Maximus, only about 11000 with same RAM. PL is the key, and either real high FSB and RAM speed, or PL and moderate FSB speed and super super tight timings 4-3-3, 3-3-3.
and @grnfinger
Oh and btw my ambiant air ( wich everyone was so quick to point out ) is 72F
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2962825&postcount=4833
Did you actually have your CPU at 72C once? :eek: How did the chip survive? LOL..
(I'm just joking with you BTW) :D
Try those changes plz and report back
I got my two new sticks and all 4 are working now.
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO or Manual only <----There is no disable
CPU Voltage : 1.5
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : 67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
It is up and running but it is rebooting in windows.
-hdpc
Why don't you run everest benchmark or sisoft sandra yaself... I think regarding rambandwith & latency n1 will be faster... but never sure unless you post results :)
you prolly got one bad stick in that pair... time to test them each individually...
Yeah there were a bad pair in there, got it replaced this morning. Now time to tweek.
-hdpc
Leeghoofd
06-07-2008, 01:51 PM
Yeah there were a bad pair in there, got it replaced this morning. Now time to tweek.
-hdpc
Hope to see some good results from ya soon sir... go go go :up:
Grnfinger
06-07-2008, 01:59 PM
I don't think I have seen much 12000 read speed in Everest(if at all). In fact most recently the highest I have seen stable is the mid 10,000. I think Zucker at 530 or so FSB had 11000 in write and copy but read was less. I have a 780i board can get 12000 linked/sync on DDR2 4-3-3 with mid 400FSB, but no where close on Maximus, only about 11000 with same RAM. PL is the key, and either real high FSB and RAM speed, or PL and moderate FSB speed and super super tight timings 4-3-3, 3-3-3.
and @grnfinger
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2962825&postcount=4833
Did you actually have your CPU at 72C once? :eek: How did the chip survive? LOL..
(I'm just joking with you BTW) :D
I see your one of those ppl that actually read the posts ;)
lol that was a quad core running @ 3.8GHz plus the NB and a 8800 on 1 swiftech 220 rad, with ambiant air 25c. The chip lives but it was sold shortly after that. Hard to beat the bandwidth of a wolfdale.
once and a while temps like that are ok , I will totally agree with that.
But for 24/7 my personal opinion is its way to high.
Wolf2000me
06-07-2008, 02:31 PM
Hey everyone,
I need a little advice. System is in sig...
I haven't flashed to a Rampage bios, yet. I didn't have the time to start stabilizing the rig, upto now :)
Which bios for the Rampage seems to yield the best results for a Q6600 G0? I'm not really that much into the highest FSB, The northbridge is too hot for that.
I might want to do something about that later.
With the current bios, Maximus 907, there's a long time that passes before the boot sequence gets past the IDE detection. Is there a Rampage bios specifically that might fix this?
Cheers and tx ;)
I am getting BSOD with the following setting:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.5
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : 67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
-hdpc
Grnfinger
06-07-2008, 04:09 PM
Hey everyone,
I need a little advice. System is in sig...
I haven't flashed to a Rampage bios, yet. I didn't have the time to start stabilizing the rig, upto now :)
Which bios for the Rampage seems to yield the best results for a Q6600 G0? I'm not really that much into the highest FSB, The northbridge is too hot for that.
I might want to do something about that later.
With the current bios, Maximus 907, there's a long time that passes before the boot sequence gets past the IDE detection. Is there a Rampage bios specifically that might fix this?
Cheers and tx ;)
You will find that Rampage bios will allow faster boot time and overall better performance than Maximus.
I have tested 308, 401 and 403 with a Q6600, you will get slightly better bandwidth with 308 but honestly without a benchmark you wont see or feel any difference, 403 bios is very stable I would flash to that
XtremeTiramisu
06-07-2008, 04:16 PM
HDPC: The only suggestion I can think of from the given template is that you can increase the CPU PLL Voltage to 1.56 ~ 1.60 to see if that helps.
If that doesn't help, increase the NB Voltage from 1.55 to 1.59.
400*9 should be faily easy to acheive becouse it's neither a high CPU clock speed OC nor high FSB OC. You shouldn't need more volts than what I suggested and the other ones you've already set.
Everything else looks fairly relaxed.
XtremeTiramisu
06-07-2008, 04:21 PM
You will find that Rampage bios will allow faster boot time and overall better performance than Maximus.
I have tested 308, 401 and 403 with a Q6600, you will get slightly better bandwidth with 308 but honestly without a benchmark you wont see or feel any difference, 403 bios is very stable I would flash to that
I agrees with Grnfinger. 0308 is just slightly faster than 0403 under Everest benchmarks but at the cost of instability and compatibility for some people. I have been getting many DET RAM hang error and can't get rams to OC near 1200mhz prior to 0403 RF bioses. After I flashed to RF0403, there is no more werid DET RAM hang error for me and 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracers in A2/B2 slots are able to OC up to 1240mhz with only 2.14 Vdimm in bios.
OVERK|LL
06-07-2008, 05:32 PM
OK, who's doing watercooling on their Maximus?
I'm thinking I'd like to go a bit higher with my OC, maybe 3.5Ghz or so, and have never had a water cooling solution in this case.
Case is a Lian Li PC75, I can take pictures if people forget what this old girl looks like :D
I'm thinking I might be able to fit a Mustang heater core above the PSU with some fans on the bottom of it, and then put two 80mm's in the back (already spots there for them) to direct the hot air out.
I only plan on WC'ing the CPU, I don't game a lot, so OC'ing my video card, well, no real point.
aicjofs
06-07-2008, 05:44 PM
I see your one of those ppl that actually read the posts
Hehe. I was looking back through posts to see if anyone had actually had 12000 read in Everest memory and I saw your pic so I had to give you a hard time. ;)
OK, who's doing watercooling on their Maximus?
I water cool a SE and regular version. For 3.5 you could probably get by cheaper with a high end air cooler, but if you want water cooling go for it. Heater cores tend to be fairly thick and have more air flow head loss typically needing a bit higher flow fans which increase noise. At the same time their surface area kind of balances it out. Finding conversion pieces for heater core inlet/outlet tubing is kind of troublesome as well. Show us a pic if you want or ask in the water cooling section.
OVERK|LL
06-07-2008, 05:59 PM
Case currently looks like this:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/comp01.jpg
It currently has four internal 80mm fans, 2 at the rear and two at the front, all running full-bore. They are actually the ones that originally came with the case!
aicjofs
06-07-2008, 06:12 PM
Looks like you have room up top for the rad. I'd seriously consider adding a fan over the NB/Power heatsink if you go water as well.
TheSamurai
06-07-2008, 06:15 PM
haven't been here in quite some time... just wondering if anybody has hit the 4.0 (Q6600) mark with stability? i'll post up the same old 3.915 that i've had for awhile but never seems to make it to the main page lol.
also, what's up with the rampage bios mod? can anybody point me in the right direction to the upgrades it provides? thanks!!
:D
OVERK|LL
06-07-2008, 06:45 PM
Looks like you have room up top for the rad. I'd seriously consider adding a fan over the NB/Power heatsink if you go water as well.
Well, the board came with that little blower fan that's supposed to mount near the back in the case of water cooling.........