The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[gonx_me]

so 1102 is newer than 1201?

At least the date publish in the ftp, the 1102 is 10 days newer. If it is really newer or not, i can't tell you.

Best regards,

[jonathankru]

Hi Guys i have been really struggling to get my qx6850 stable @ 4Ghz.
I can get it to boot into Vista @ 4.0Ghz with just 1.488V but it is not stable.
I have tried setting the vcore right up to 1.55 and it still is unstable.
About 1 sec into prime it will give me BSOD and restart. If you look at the attached images you will see most of my voltage settings from everest.
Cpu pll in bios:1.62
FSB termination in bios: 1.42

Can anyone see what i am doing wrong? My Specs are in my signature.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=78749&stc=1&d=1210937198

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=78750&stc=1&d=1210937688

Thanks

[Dostoyevsky77]

I think all new MF boards are inferior quality. Recently, I exchanged a newly-purchased board because it appeared to have a flaw where the VRM (mosfet) heatsinks near the rear I/O ports were pushed too close to the CPU. I had to bend the fins and the heat pipe just to mount my Tuniq. I sent it back so I could get one I could sell since I had defaced it a little (I bent it back as much as possible, but it still looked ganked). Anyway, the return board was exactly the same. Looking at the heatsinks and components on the new boards compared to my board from 2007, the newer one appears to have cheaper components. They are more shiny, but they look cheap and plasticky (like the HS/pipes). When I was running that new board (the second one, not the third one), the NB temperature was also about 5(c) hotter than my 2007 board.

All boards are 1.03G and all PCBs are printed in China.

Good thing my problem wasn't with my 2007 board, but unfortunately my PSU incident seems to have corrupted my memory (memtest returns some - but few - errors and Orthos doesn't like to run for more than a couple hours). I'm on my second RMA through NewEgg to get a batch of Ballistix that work as well as the ones that were bulletproof. I may have finally run out of luck running that RAM on this board. Maybe it was just a really good batch that I had...

[OVERK|LL]

I think all new MF boards are inferior quality. Recently, I exchanged a newly-purchased board because it appeared to have a flaw where the VRM (mosfet) heatsinks near the rear I/O ports were pushed too close to the CPU. I had to bend the fins and the heat pipe just to mount my Tuniq. I sent it back so I could get one I could sell since I had defaced it a little (I bent it back as much as possible, but it still looked ganked). Anyway, the return board was exactly the same. Looking at the heatsinks and components on the new boards compared to my board from 2007, the newer one appears to have cheaper components. They are more shiny, but they look cheap and plasticky (like the HS/pipes). When I was running that new board (the second one, not the third one), the NB temperature was also about 5(c) hotter than my 2007 board.

All boards are 1.03G and all PCBs are printed in China.

Good thing my problem wasn't with my 2007 board, but unfortunately my PSU incident seems to have corrupted my memory (memtest returns some - but few - errors and Orthos doesn't like to run for more than a couple hours). I'm on my second RMA through NewEgg to get a batch of Ballistix that work as well as the ones that were bulletproof. I may have finally run out of luck running that RAM on this board. Maybe it was just a really good batch that I had...

Interesting! My PCB is printed in Taiwan.

[erocker]

NB volts look way to low for 4GBs and a quad core imo.
I would up the volts to maybe 1.49 and retest

Is this pretty universal? I'm running 4 x 1gb sticks of axeram 1200, in my maximus and my NB volts are around 1.45. I too have had a couple restarts (over a month or so) since installing 4gb's. I will give 1.49 a try though, thanks for the info!:)

On another note, am I not the only one becoming confused with the latest bios numbering for this board?

[trt740]

Is this pretty universal? I'm running 4 x 1gb sticks of axeram 1200, in my maximus and my NB volts are around 1.45. I too have had a couple restarts (over a month or so) since installing 4gb's. I will give 1.49 a try though, thanks for the info!:)

On another note, am I not the only one becoming confused with the latest bios numbering for this board?

Erocker convert your maximus it will do alot higher fsb with the Rampage bios and runs alot better aswell. The whole Rampage is has a higher binned chipset is BS my MF converted to a Ramage matches it's fsb FSB , as a Rampages my board now does 570fsb . It is all just bios. They made a new and better bios and Flashed Maximus Formulas just as we are. I believe they are intentionally hold back the Maximus formula boards in the bios to sell Rampages. My Maximus formula before the flash would do 490FSB to 510Fsb. It now does 533fsb to 570fsb. I cannot believe a class action suit hasn't been filed against Asus yet or DFi for that matter.

[Grnfinger]

Is this pretty universal? I'm running 4 x 1gb sticks of axeram 1200, in my maximus and my NB volts are around 1.45. I too have had a couple restarts (over a month or so) since installing 4gb's. I will give 1.49 a try though, thanks for the info!:)

On another note, am I not the only one becoming confused with the latest bios numbering for this board?

4x1GBs of ram will tax the NB alot harder than 2 sticks, if at 1.49 you still have the odd restart you may need to go to about 1.51 1.53 or so.
Aslong as your NB temps stay respectable dont worry to much about going in the "yellow" voltage zone

It seems the bios's are getting out of order I'm not sure if we have a few inacurate posters or if Asus has been sniffing glue

Maybe someone could post a comparison on the 2 new bios 1201 / 1104 ??

[Nuckin_Futs]

Anybody notice if there are good and or better batches of the Q9450? I got my SLAWR 10 days ago batch # L803B524.

Recap, what are we finding is the fair to safe high end vcore on these and PLL? What are some user examples at 4GHz?

[ZenEffect]

Anybody notice if there are good and or better batches of the Q9450? I got my SLAWR 10 days ago batch # L803B524.

Recap, what are we finding is the fair to safe high end vcore on these and PLL? What are some user examples at 4GHz?

honestly i havent found any 4ghz 24/7's of this cpu. im assuming its a bit rare, and too much hassle for me to play the exchange game to get one.

[newls1]

Please, can someone tell me if the newer RF4xx bioses are proving to be a better BIOS then my current 0219RF bios? Thanks.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Please, can someone tell me if the newer RF4xx bioses are proving to be a better BIOS then my current 0219RF bios? Thanks.

For me and most of others, it's better in terms of stability. The DET RAM hang issue is completely eliminated in the MF 1201 or RF 04xx bioses. If you have the symptom that I've described in the above, you should give RF 04xx a try.

[newls1]

For me and most of others, it's better in terms of stability. The DET RAM hang issue is completely eliminated in the MF 1201 or RF 04xx bioses. If you have the symptom that I've described in the above, you should give RF 04xx a try.

I do not have any issues with the DET hang issue (never had with my board) but I am going with the 403 RF bios as it says it fixes ram compatabilty, so I am hoping that maybe I can get a better OC with my 8GB G.Skill PC8500 ram:shrug:. I'm still using the 219bios, and that is the first release bios for the RF, so maybe this will improve apon things:up: Thanks

[Sparda]

Erocker convert your maximus it will do alot higher fsb with the Rampage bios and runs alot better aswell. The whole Rampage is has a higher binned chipset is BS my MF converted to a Ramage matches it's fsb FSB , as a Rampages my board now does 570fsb . It is all just bios. They made a new and better bios and Flashed Maximus Formulas just as we are. I believe they are intentionally hold back the Maximus formula boards in the bios to sell Rampages. My Maximus formula before the flash would do 490FSB to 510Fsb. It now does 533fsb to 570fsb. I cannot believe a class action suit hasn't been filed against Asus yet or DFi for that matter.

It all just marketing m8. Btw If I am not mistaken both company are in Taiwan so they does not bind to US law. It like RIAA vs Pirate Bay. If anybody in other country want to do something. All they just can do is to block , sabotage or boycott the product which doesnt going to happen to a good mobo.

edit : it sucks for Torrent Spy to have base in US....lol

[Nuckin_Futs]

Q9450 Breakin in? I am getting ready to run some test on the new Q9450. So far it was an easy change over into MF BETA v1004. Started in auto vcore and ratio, everything left as was from my 480x8 profile excep RAM was tightened to DDR800 timings of 4-4-4-12 on the same 5:6 divider. I didn't get any DET_RAM issues eithers (Same Crucial Ballisitx PC2-8500's.

I wanna' work up to 480FSB again, so what is a likely needed vcore rang for that height? What other app then RightMark can read the 45nm Quads to display VID? Auto started as 333x8 at 1.190v and PLL of 1.616v What are you guys finding or hearing is a medium PLL to maintain higher FSB with 45nm quads? I was using 1.632 PLL for a year and a half now on my Q6600 but I now they needed it for 470+.

Some feedback would be cool, especially from fella Q9450 overclockiers.

[FrancoisC]

At least the date publish in the ftp, the 1102 is 10 days newer. If it is really newer or not, i can't tell you.

Best regards,


I checked with a HEX editor,

On 1102 its "$ASUSAMI$.MAXIMUS.1102.04/02/2008-17:27:32.Bearlake.Formula.ASUS.rombuild414"

On 1201 its "$ASUSAMI$.MAXIMUS.1201.04/23/2008-21:08:07.Bearlake.Formula.ASUS.rombuild414"

So 1201 i definitly newer... they just uploaded 1102 late it seems!

PS: If you want to see for yourself, just open the bios with any hex editor and search text string "2008"

[Milamber]

What are the benefits of using the rampage BIOS over the P5E?

And can you use any Rampage BIOS?

[Nuckin_Futs]

Just curious here. In BETA BIOS v1004 and Q9450 under Everest 4.50.13xx and core Temp, I get high looking temp reads from stock 333 of 1.90v to 1.290v @ 425x8 yet BIOS repots cores averaged to 29c stock and now 33c at 425FSB @ 1.29v. Yet Everest still shows 35c core 4 and 45c 1~3. and they hold through various FSB overclock tests. They do move if I load yet, mobo temp is cool and actual pipes at base barely warm up and everything is smooth. So is this a 45nm, Penrin or Yorkfield issue?

Anybody?

EDIT: O.K. It seams to hit the FSB wall just above 455FSB for me but I only gave it 1.48v max so far, till I learn more of the safe voltage ranges for these. Temp was only 38c (4 cores averaged in BIOS). Again, the reason I stress peepz reporting with used actual voltages, my FSBT when left set as previously to 1.40v to give me 1.472 actual for Q6600 became much less now and took setting of 1.46 to get 1.37v.

[aussie-revhead]

Guys , Im not happy with the clocks on my q6600 and I want to keep going with my Rampaged Formula , what cpu would you guy get for benching ? QX9650 would be the obvious best choice but way too dear for me , how well do these mobos clock 45nm quads ? Can I get one to 4GHz on water ?

Any help would be great.


:up:

[Dostoyevsky77]

I have a weird situation: Recently, I added a non-SLI 9600GT to my system to run my secondary display. Last night, I took it out to compare benches. After I put it back in, BIOS gives me a "Keyboard/IO Error: Press F1 to continue" error. If I press F1, everything is fine but it's weird: why is this? Has anyone seen this before?

I've tried these: resetting CMOS, removing the 9600GT, reseating all other components, removing all USB except the keyboard, and trying the keyboard in different USBs.

[WFO]

Can I get one to 4GHz on water ?

Any help would be great.


:up:

Probably not. 3.6-3-8 is much more realistic. :)

[Grnfinger]

I think my Maximus is on its way out......
When cold booting LCD poster sits at "USBFINAL" for a very very long time then when fianlly boots to vista USB printer is not working, USB card reader is not working.
Xbox 360 controller wont work and Guitar Hero controller is not working.
This could be my last Asus board for a long time.

[ZenEffect]

I think my Maximus is on its way out......
When cold booting LCD poster sits at "USBFINAL" for a very very long time then when fianlly boots to vista USB printer is not working, USB card reader is not working.
Xbox 360 controller wont work and Guitar Hero controller is not working.
This could be my last Asus board for a long time.

reason im done with asus is
#1 never got a response ever from customer support
#2 3.3v kept dropping over time to 3.28 to 3.2 to 3.18... thats when i pulled the board.
#3 i feel asus is intentionally holding back features that could be implemented through bios and is on other boards.

:down:

other than that its been a great board.

another disturbing thing though... my dfi board had a sticker on it that said "made in china" :(
my e7200 i got yesterday would not post but q6600 would on dfi, e7200 would not post on either asus or dfi *mabye bios issue... mabye doa*

either way i gotta flash back to maximus, rma the board then sell it.

[OVERK|LL]

reason im done with asus is
#1 never got a response ever from customer support
#2 3.3v kept dropping over time to 3.28 to 3.2 to 3.18... thats when i pulled the board.
#3 i feel asus is intentionally holding back features that could be implemented through bios and is on other boards.

:down:

other than that its been a great board.

another disturbing thing though... my dfi board had a sticker on it that said "made in china" :(
my e7200 i got yesterday would not post but q6600 would on dfi, e7200 would not post on either asus or dfi *mabye bios issue... mabye doa*

either way i gotta flash back to maximus, rma the board then sell it.

What features are you thinking are being held back?

[ZenEffect]

What features are you thinking are being held back?

fine gtl control is the main thing...

[Grnfinger]

I have had this Maximus since November 2k7, seems once you sort one bug out another comes along the way.
Just flashed the board back to MF bios 1201, WOW what a performance hit on the boot time, I'm calling Asus now to start the RMA process I have an SE so I will get a Maximus Extreme, looks like I get to go DDR3:up:
Still going to get the DFI once you post me some results ;)

[OVERK|LL]

fine gtl control is the main thing...

Interesting, just did some reading up on it and it sounds like it could be extremely beneficial, so I see what you mean.

[OVERK|LL]

I have had this Maximus since November 2k7, seems once you sort one bug out another comes along the way.
Just flashed the board back to MF bios 1201, WOW what a performance hit on the boot time, I'm calling Asus now to start the RMA process I have an SE so I will get a Maximus Extreme, looks like I get to go DDR3:up:
Still going to get the DFI once you post me some results ;)

Do you feel the flashing of the board to the RF had any effect on it's demise? I think it's a novel idea, but am sort of concerned about any detriments to the board's life expectancy.......

Other than the chipset difference, are the RF and MF basically identical?

[Grnfinger]

Interesting, just did some reading up on it and it sounds like it could be extremely beneficial, so I see what you mean.

Out of curiosity what city are you in ?? :D

[OVERK|LL]

Out of curiosity what city are you in ?? :D

PTBO :D You?

[Grnfinger]

PTBO :D You?

Brockville, its between Ottawa and Kingston

[OVERK|LL]

Brockville, its between Ottawa and Kingston

Yep, I know where Brockville is, I'm about two hours from Kingston, it's where the 115 ends.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Is the RF hack adding any day to day benifits for the 45nm quads, more spacifically the Q9450 or Q9550? I seam to be at the 455FSB wall, but only gave it 1.48v and 1.648v PLL. FSBT was now way off from what it was before. my last setting to equal 1.472 became 1.34v Is there still anybody with a simular 45nm quad or just ones that dont feel like responding to mine?
Just curious!

[Grnfinger]

Is the RF hack adding any day to day benifits for the 45nm quads, more spacifically the Q9450 or Q9550? I seam to be at the 455FSB wall, but only gave it 1.48v and 1.648v PLL. FSBT was now way off from what it was before. my last setting to equal 1.472 became 1.34v Is there still anybody with a simular 45nm quad or just ones that dont feel like responding to mine?
Just curious!

I dont have a 45nm quad but from what I hear none or very few like high fsb.
This is why I bought another 65nm quad, I would rather have a little more heat for alot more oc. I honestly dont see the RF bios giving you any more headroom, it will give you better bandwidth tho. There has been talk of a FSB hole and if you can find it you should be able to get 3.8-4.0 but again its not every chip.

This might be of interest to you, its a rampage bios setting but it will work with little effort on a MAximus ( the bios are almost identical) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2923539&postcount=196

At 3.6GHz what are your temps like on the 45nm?

[dude_500]

I'm running 450x8 right now and I can't boot 451 or anything over 450. I've put up all my voltages a little across the board and can't even get one more megahertz on it. Any thoughts? Is it just the wall on my board?

[OVERK|LL]

So what exactly are the benefits of the Rampage conversion? I hear increased memory bandwidth and greater tunability, are there any detriments? Negative affects? I remember reading somebody talking about temperature skew?

[ZenEffect]

So what exactly are the benefits of the Rampage conversion? I hear increased memory bandwidth and greater tunability, are there any detriments? Negative affects? I remember reading somebody talking about temperature skew?

not just increased memory bandwidth... INSANE memory bandwidth. I dont think there were any negative effects what so ever, and the temperature skew was corrected in later bios... not that you should be reading the temp from any asus utility anyways :rolleyes:

@ Grnfinger.

my first *absolute first* impression of the dfi is this. their website is slow as :banana::banana::banana::banana:, and doesnt contain any bios for my motherboard. it wouldnt post with the E7200, so logically thinking, the bios it shipped with does not support this cpu (that is within reason to me)

[OVERK|LL]

not just increased memory bandwidth... INSANE memory bandwidth. I dont think there were any negative effects what so ever, and the temperature skew was corrected in later bios... not that you should be reading the temp from any asus utility anyways :rolleyes:

@ Grnfinger.

my first *absolute first* impression of the dfi is this. their website is slow as :banana::banana::banana::banana:, and doesnt contain any bios for my motherboard. it wouldnt post with the E7200, so logically thinking, the bios it shipped with does not support this cpu (that is within reason to me)

SWEET!!!!

OK, that sounds reasonable. So, 401 is a good choice then? My temps are read via the kernel and displayed via GKRELLM.

[Dostoyevsky77]

I have had this Maximus since November 2k7, seems once you sort one bug out another comes along the way.
Just flashed the board back to MF bios 1201, WOW what a performance hit on the boot time, I'm calling Asus now to start the RMA process I have an SE so I will get a Maximus Extreme, looks like I get to go DDR3:up:
Still going to get the DFI once you post me some results ;)

I'm with you. Let me know what you decide, because I'm ready to dump this board too. I'm thinking DFI X48.

[Lestat]

i dont know what you all are complaniing about i have the stuff in my sig and has been running solid for quite a long time. I am still on the 0907 board.

granted i do get the dredded "DET DRAM" error once in a while on boot but other than that,, i couldn't be happier.
thank jesus this board never cost me retail though cuz i would never pay this much for a board.

a final thought though,, i have yet, out of the many boards i hae had, seen a board with the ram overclocking abilities of my old faithful P5N-E SLI.. i have yet to have any baord run as high of mhz as that board did.
so much that i am tempest to sell this baord and get the 750i board...

[OVERK|LL]

Rampage conversion done, used the 403 BIOS. Just running revdep-rebuild on that box right now, had a few package issues related to a world update I did prior to reboot so I'm on my lappy right now. I have had ZERO problems with this board thus far, and am quite impressed with this CPU.

[Zucker2k]

not just increased memory bandwidth... INSANE memory bandwidth. I dont think there were any negative effects what so ever, and the temperature skew was corrected in later bios... not that you should be reading the temp from any asus utility anyways :rolleyes:
I've always wondered what the fuss was about the so-called "increased memory bandwidth" of the RF bioses over MF bioses. The little comparison I did with Grnfinger was a draw at best: postcount 2719 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2842910&postcount=2719)

Grnfinger's response: postcount2838 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2845258&postcount=2838)

My response: postcount 2846 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2845887&postcount=2846)

Grnfinger's post: postcount 2857 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2846482&postcount=2857)

My response: postcount 2863 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2846754&postcount=2863)

My final post on the subject: postcount 2882 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2847513&postcount=2882) This actually favored the MF bios over the RF per the comparison with Grnfinger. Yes, the RF gives you more control over how to tweak certain settings, but the MF bios offer the same performance, if not more, if you know how to tweak it.

[ZenEffect]

I've always wondered what the fuss was about the so-called "increased memory bandwidth" of the RF bioses over MF bioses. The little comparison I did with Grnfinger was a draw at best: postcount 2719 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2842910&postcount=2719)

Grnfinger's response: postcount2838 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2845258&postcount=2838)

My response: postcount 2846 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2845887&postcount=2846)

Grnfinger's post: postcount 2857 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2846482&postcount=2857)

My response: postcount 2863 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2846754&postcount=2863)

My final post on the subject: postcount 2882 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2847513&postcount=2882) This actually favored the MF bios over the RF per the comparison with Grnfinger. Yes, the RF gives you more control over how to tweak certain settings, but the MF bios offer the same performance, if not more, if you know how to tweak it.

your fsb has a lot to do w/ your results. lower your fsb to 450 and compare results. perhaps my i should re-state what i said. it gives an insane bandwidth increase @ lower fsb.

*edit*
im missing the crash free bios right about now... dfi bios is DEEP.

[Zucker2k]

your fsb has a lot to do w/ your results. lower your fsb to 450 and compare results. perhaps my i should re-state what i said. it gives an insane bandwidth increase @ lower fsb.

Zen, it's all in strap/trd manipulation. No advantage to the RF bios, except I repeat, better/direct control over these settings.

[ZenEffect]

Zen, it's all in strap/trd manipulation. No advantage to the RF bios, except I repeat, better/direct control over these settings.

the trd manipulation is what makes the rampage. otherwise you are right, there pretty much is no difference. in my case, the trd manipulation allowed me to go from pl8 to 6, which increased my bandwidth. i was unable to do this on mf. i will conceded to usage may vary.

[Nuckin_Futs]

I dont have a 45nm quad but from what I hear none or very few like high fsb.
This is why I bought another 65nm quad, I would rather have a little more heat for alot more oc. I honestly dont see the RF bios giving you any more headroom, it will give you better bandwidth tho. There has been talk of a FSB hole and if you can find it you should be able to get 3.8-4.0 but again its not every chip.

This might be of interest to you, its a rampage bios setting but it will work with little effort on a MAximus ( the bios are almost identical) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2923539&postcount=196

At 3.6GHz what are your temps like on the 45nm?37~39c depending on vcore of up to 1.48v I will try again to see if I can get past that hole. I may have been using more vcore then needed. Everest and other OS based monitors read the temps different, much higher all across on cores. It is sticking around 55c since stock and on as high as 1.48 when idle but maxed to 75c on the highest and 69c on lowest in Prime95. No throttling even at said 75c and TR120 feels cool narely warm at base and tips. Believe me, the Q6600 @ 1.48v felt nice and hot even to the tips of heat pipes w/ pleny of warm air out the back. So this thing isnt running out of CPU cooler just yet. What other core temp monitoring can read the 45nm quads correctly or is it the BIOS v1004? Is it worth testing RF 401 or mentioned 403? If S3 will work, I'm all there. Just to note, S3 still doesnt work even by changeing to 45nm so it is my BIOS.

But how high is still safe for 45nm quads?

[aussie-revhead]

Have you tried realtemp ? For me it seems to read lower than coretemp , so I hope its more correct.

:up:

[Nuckin_Futs]

Good deal, It worked, core Temp was reading 10c over same for Everest. I cant get it stable over 460 even upping FSBT to 1.504v and PLL to 1.648 and vcore to 1.45v NB as much as 1.6 (never had to use that high before on this mobo but it stayed rather cool surprisingly. 45nm has less stress on the chipset I guess. Even at that vcore it hasnt throttled yet (testing 1.45v @ 450FSB not more then 65c

In a nut shell I'm not liking the so little overclockability, even if general performance feels smoother then Q6600 at if the same FSV & FID levels. I may just go back to 65nm untill I see more improvements or hear more about X3350 to at least 480x8FSB as a 24/7 CPU.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Have you tried realtemp ? For me it seems to read lower than coretemp , so I hope its more correct.

:up:

Lower than Core Temp becouse Real Temp reads the Tj max temp 5 degrees below Core Temp. Take Q6600 G0 fore example, Core Temp reads its Tjmax = 100 and Real Temp reads its Tjmax at 95. Tjmax minus delta temp = core temp reads from the diodode. In this case, there is always an exact temp difference by 5 degree from each core.

[aussie-revhead]

Thats fair , so which is accurate ?

:up:

[Grnfinger]

37~39c depending on vcore of up to 1.48v I will try again to see if I can get past that hole. I may have been using more vcore then needed. Everest and other OS based monitors read the temps different, much higher all across on cores. It is sticking around 55c since stock and on as high as 1.48 when idle but maxed to 75c on the highest and 69c on lowest in Prime95. No throttling even at said 75c and TR120 feels cool narely warm at base and tips. Believe me, the Q6600 @ 1.48v felt nice and hot even to the tips of heat pipes w/ pleny of warm air out the back. So this thing isnt running out of CPU cooler just yet. What other core temp monitoring can read the 45nm quads correctly or is it the BIOS v1004? Is it worth testing RF 401 or mentioned 403? If S3 will work, I'm all there. Just to note, S3 still doesnt work even by changeing to 45nm so it is my BIOS.

But how high is still safe for 45nm quads?

I was one of the first to flash to the RF bios, I have ran FSB@489 24/7 for months and I have never experienced ANY negative effects from the conversion. My USB controller issue was user error I changed NB/SB volts for a test and when I resumed my regular quad overclock I forgot to up my NB/SB volts :rolleyes: RF bios 403 is rather stable and seems to have the det dram issues solved.
I have never had an issue with S3, I set it to S3 Only in bios and has always worked for me for maximus or rampage bios. Flashing will take less than a min, it will take you longer to make the usb boot disk. Maybe try it out for a few hours and if you dont like it flash back. I just flashed back to MF yesterday and there was no need to re do my OS, everything played nicely.
And now that my self inflicted USB problem is gone I'm going to flash back to Rampage today

For 45nm c2d the claim is keep cpu volts below 1.45 and I think FSBT max was 1.40. I think cooling plays a large part so if your running cool enough then you should be safe. I was going to buy a Q9450 but the rumors around were very disturbing, so thats why I bought another ( better, lower vid ) 65nm quad. I like the wolfdales speed, the bandwidth is very impressive, but you cant match the power of a quad

[Notechis]

ASUS posted "new" bios 1102 on their web site and it seems that this is not a beta bios.
Only description is :Maximus Formula 1102 Bios Fixed it can not enter the setup of some PCI-Express SATAII RAID Card.

[Dostoyevsky77]

I have a weird situation: Recently, I added a non-SLI 9600GT to my system to run my secondary display. Last night, I took it out to compare benches. After I put it back in, BIOS gives me a "Keyboard/Interface Error: Press F1 to continue" error. If I press F1, everything is fine but it's weird: why is this? Has anyone seen this before?

I've tried these: resetting CMOS, removing the 9600GT, reseating all other components, removing all USB except the keyboard, and trying the keyboard in different USBs.

This is still perplexing me. Any recommendations would be truly welcome. I turned off F1 for errors, so it's nothing more than an annoyance, but the error unsettles me slightly.

[Grnfinger]

This is still perplexing me. Any recommendations would be truly welcome. I turned off F1 for errors, so it's nothing more than an annoyance, but the error unsettles me slightly.

Have you tried a different bios ?

I had some USB overvolt issue with 401 once I flashed to 403 it was all gone.

[Zucker2k]

This is still perplexing me. Any recommendations would be truly welcome. I turned off F1 for errors, so it's nothing more than an annoyance, but the error unsettles me slightly.

Could be ich related; what's your pci-e frequency? You can play with that a bit.

[OVERK|LL]

Just popped into Windows to run 3DMark and get some info.

CPU-Z Stuff:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/cpuz.jpg
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/cpuz2.jpg

Everest:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/Everest.jpg

And she did 14,117 3Dmarks on 3DMark 06.


I know it's a MILD overclock, I'll be getting faster RAM at some point, and more of it.

[GiN]

hi i changed my e8500 cpu gtl reference to 0.67x, and now it boots only max 320 fsb before this i have 9.5 x 450 @4.3 vcore 1.32 with no problems. I have tryed 3 motherboards: Maximus formula, Maximus rampage and p5w dh deluxe, same problem with each one. LCD poster says det ram, I have tryed with 3 different sets of memory. i cant understand :\

[Grnfinger]

hi i changed my e8500 cpu gtl reference to 0.67x, and now it boots only max 320 fsb before this i have 9.5 x 450 @4.3 vcore 1.32 with no problems. I have tryed 3 motherboards: Maximus formula, Maximus rampage and p5w dh deluxe, same problem with each one. LCD poster says det ram, I have tryed with 3 different sets of memory. i cant understand :\

the det ram issue has to do with PL settings once you find the right setting the issue is gone.

Set dram static read control to auto
and set trans booster to auto, I bet it boots...
There is a chart to calculate the proper settings, dont have it handy atm for I'm installing a fresh OS but I'm sure someone can post it or a link to it


Just popped into Windows to run 3DMark and get some info.

CPU-Z Stuff:


Everest:


And she did 14,117 3Dmarks on 3DMark 06.


I know it's a MILD overclock, I'll be getting faster RAM at some point, and more of it.

If you set your ram timing to 4-4-4-12 what is your bandwidth then? or can it run at 4-4-4-12?

[chawks2]

Is the RF hack adding any day to day benifits for the 45nm quads, more spacifically the Q9450 or Q9550? I seam to be at the 455FSB wall..

My 9450 hit a wall @ 465. ATM, I do not have the settings or the batch. Will post when can.

[OVERK|LL]

the det ram issue has to do with PL settings once you find the right setting the issue is gone.

Set dram static read control to auto
and set trans booster to auto, I bet it boots...
There is a chart to calculate the proper settings, dont have it handy atm for I'm installing a fresh OS but I'm sure someone can post it or a link to it



If you set your ram timing to 4-4-4-12 what is your bandwidth then? or can it run at 4-4-4-12?

I haven't tried. Settings you see are SPD. Sticks are Crucial Ballistix. Perhaps I will try that later.

[Nuckin_Futs]

I have never had an issue with S3, I set it to S3 Only in bios and has always worked for me for maximus or rampage bios. Flashing will take less than a min, it will take you longer to make the usb boot disk. Maybe try it out for a few hours and if you dont like it flash back. I just flashed back to MF yesterday and there was no need to re do my OS, everything played nicely.
And now that my self inflicted USB problem is gone I'm going to flash back to Rampage today

For 45nm c2d the claim is keep cpu volts below 1.45 and I think FSBT max was 1.40. I think cooling plays a large part so if your running cool enough then you should be safe. I was going to buy a Q9450 but the rumors around were very disturbing, so thats why I bought another ( better, lower vid ) 65nm quad. I like the wolfdales speed, the bandwidth is very impressive, but you cant match the power of a quad
I may try it later today RF 403!What about max PLL on these 45nm quads? Is 1.632v too high

I think I may want a new 65nm Quad though. So what is the current best batch or rev to have? Are the current stock at local stores any good compard to our old GO early rev? I can keep 'em cool, but can they take the clock mHz?

BETA hacks? Are these BIOS rewritten spacifically for the mobos we used here, or can the actual RF download be used? If so then can we use the BETA v402 of the P5E3 Premium? Will it gain access to the multi CPU GTL control? If not, is somebody working on this for our mobos?

[Grnfinger]

I may try it later today RF 403!What about max PLL on these 45nm quads? Is 1.632v too high

I think I may want a new 65nm Quad though. So what is the current best batch or rev to have? Are the current stock at local stores any good compard to our old GO early rev? I can keep 'em cool, but can they take the clock mHz?

I think PLL is 1.65-1.70 max but I could be wrong you may want to google that. I had the Intel paper but I just formatted and dont have everything handy atm, my NAS is still disconnected.

I just grabbed a quad batch# L737B021 with a VID of 1.22 and I'm very pleased it will hit 4.0 with little effort altho I run it at 3.825 for 24/7
I bought it from Zen and he bought it from ebay ( correct me if I'm wrong Zen ) Ebay would probably give you a better choice of Q6600's.

[Leeghoofd]

Hi Guys i have been really struggling to get my qx6850 stable @ 4Ghz.
I can get it to boot into Vista @ 4.0Ghz with just 1.488V but it is not stable.
I have tried setting the vcore right up to 1.55 and it still is unstable.



Try to up the Vcore a bit more... also did you put TRFC in the bios to 55 or higher ?

[cadaveca]

I haven't tried. Settings you see are SPD. Sticks are Crucial Ballistix. Perhaps I will try that later.

If they are single sided, 5-5-5-15-3-55-8-3 should get you 1100mhz+/-, 2.0v in bios.

[OVERK|LL]

If they are single sided, 5-5-5-15-3-55-8-3 should get you 1100mhz+/-, 2.0v in bios.

Holy CRAP!!!! They are double-sided though.........

[cadaveca]

Then you might get 1200mhz...

[OVERK|LL]

I would have thought that 2v on the memory would be hard on it, no?

[Nuckin_Futs]

I would have thought that 2v on the memory would be hard on it, no?

Pretty safe so far, tested for over 3 yrs regular used PC's. Even some of the cheaper of budget can do 2.0v 24/7 on air. Better DDR2 can do 2.4v comfortably 24/7 w/ GOOD air and fan if you got it. Relaxing that trfc seamed to allow mine to use less at higher MHz. I can do 1164 at trfc50 2 2.24v.

[OVERK|LL]

Pretty safe so far, tested for over 3 yrs regular used PC's. Even some of the cheaper of budget can do 2.0v 24/7 on air. Better DDR2 can do 2.4v comfortably 24/7 w/ GOOD air and fan if you got it. Relaxing that trfc seamed to allow mine to use less at higher MHz. I can do 1164 at trfc50 2 2.24v.

Well, have it running at 1066Mhz now, the next one up was a bizarre 1112Mhz, then 2xFSB after that which is 1333, and I doubt the RAM can do that.

No errors in Memtest, and my 3DMark score went from 14,117 to 14,260 with no other changes.

Everest:

Before:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/Everest.jpg

After:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/everest2.jpg

[nflesher87]

hey guys I'm having trouble running 450 FSB on my maximus formula, I've tried every voltage option available :(
that is with using a 6.5 multi and running the ram at 900MHz
I've tried using the Rampage 0308 BIOS and the Maximus 1201 BIOS
I'm running a Xeon X3360 (Q9550)

the system posts but I either freeze during the windows (xp) load screen or get a blue screen during it

any ideas?

[Ric2L]

Finally 10 hrs. Prime small FFT's stable @ 3.6GHz on air!!! Temps never went over 62c on cores, or 41c on N/B. Heres my settings, thanks for all the info I got from Xtremeforums and the people who helped with answers to my questions.


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
FSB Frequency :400
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400 MHz
PCI-E Frequency:100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066 MHz
DRAM Command Rate :2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge :5
RAS# ActivateTime :12
RAS# to RAS# Delay :4
Row Refresh Cycle Time :55
Write Recovery Time :5
Read to Precharge Time :Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :9
Write to Read Delay (S) :5
Write to Read Delay (D) :5
Read to Read Delay (S) :4
Read to Read Delay (D) :6
Write to Write Delay (S) :4
Write to Write Delay (D) :6
Dram Static Read Control:Disabled
Ai Clock Twister :Auto
Transaction Booster :Disabled
Relax Level:1
CPU Voltage :1.36875
CPU PLL Voltage :1.52
North Bridge Voltage :1.39
DRAM Voltage :1.90
FSB Termination Voltage :1.34
South Bridge Voltage :1.05
Loadline Calibration :Auto
CPU GTL Reference :.063x
North Bridge GTL Reference :.067x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :DDR2-Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :DDR2-Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage :Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4492/36ghzstablejk6.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36ghzstablejk6.jpg)

[Nuckin_Futs]

Priming the Q9450? If prime or the PC just freezes, no shut down crash but locks up where I have to or get to reset, what is that usually the 1st signs of? I usually used to just get crach/restart or no crash or 1 or more cores error out but 1 or 2 keep going. Bumping the FSBT up a hair kept all cores good but PC fose after 10 minutes. Prime 95 v25.5 blend mores, full CPU stress is OK.

Testing 433x8 in 5:6 aI light, boost off=0 (reported PL8), vvore: 1.32v (again, not sure idf it's too high but temps are good), FSBT: 1.456v, PLL: 1.632v, CPU GTL Ref: Auto for now cause I havent found the butter zone yet.

[scottath]

@Ric2L

What is the CPU PPL voltage set to [as it's on auto according to your explanation]
Also - you've got a very good CPU then - mine needs around 1.47v for 3.6ghz

[aussie-revhead]

Hey scottath , my q6600 can prime at 3600 with 1.3925 in bios / 1.37 actual , but its still not a 4.1+ cpu .

:shrug:

[scottath]

Isn't your a crap clocker? - you seem to say that everywhere on OCAU, can you post all of your settings? [or pm me on OCAU]
Thanks
I managed a boot at 4.1ghz, but highest i've been able to run 3dmark was at 3.96 - got good video card scores, but horrid [considering clocks] for the CPU

[aussie-revhead]

Will do , and no this is another cpu , this one is only moderately crap ...

:up:

[Ric2L]

@Ric2L

What is the CPU PPL voltage set to [as it's on auto according to your explanation]
Also - you've got a very good CPU then - mine needs around 1.47v for 3.6ghz

CPU PLL is at 1.52 setting (which reads1.616 in Bios under the power screen) auto setting gives me the exact same reading. the lowest I can set it to is 1.5 with my bios (V1004), seems like the Rampage bios has more voltage options?

[scottath]

seems like the Rampage bios has more voltage options?

Same options i think - just much larger possible values

[Talonman]

I just grabbed a quad batch# L737B021 with a VID of 1.22 and I'm very pleased it will hit 4.0 with little effort altho I run it at 3.825 for 24/7
I bought it from Zen and he bought it from ebay ( correct me if I'm wrong Zen ) Ebay would probably give you a better choice of Q6600's.

We just about have identical twins then... :up:

My Q6600 GO is L726B397, also with a 1.224 VID. I have Primed at 3.9GHz error free for 45 minutes. I haven't pushed it to 4.0 yet, but believe it would give it to me.

3.825GHz is where run mine for games. :cool:

Under Maximus BIOS 1004:
With a 425 FSB Frequency, 400 NB Strap, PL=9, DRAM Frequency= 850MHz, Booting reports 3.84GHz, but CPUZ reports 3.8252GHz.
My RAM is running at 5-5-5-15.

CPU voltage is set in the BIOS to 1.53125v, Everest reports 1.51v, CPUZ reports 1.512v.
My CPU PLL is set to AUTO in BIOS.
Is there a program that displayes PLL voltage? I would like to see what AUTO is selecting for me.

The L7 Q6600's are runners... :sonic:

The B indicates 'Bad Boy' ... :slapass: (Not too many people know that!) :p:

Sweet Chip Grnfinger!

[aussie-revhead]

Then why is my L737B a crudd-box ? Maybe its my nub-ish overclocking skills ...

:shrug:


PL=9

What exactly is that ?

.

[scottath]

We just about have identical twins then... :up:

My Q6600 GO is L726B397, also with a 1.224 VID. I have Primed at 3.9GHz error free for 45 minutes. I haven't pushed it to 4.0 yet, but believe it would give it to me.

3.825GHz is where run mine for games. :cool:

Under Maximus BIOS 1004:
With a 425 FSB Frequency, 400 NB Strap, PL=9, DRAM Frequency= 850MHz, Booting reports 3.84GHz, but CPUZ reports 3.8252GHz.
My RAM is running at 5-5-5-15.

CPU voltage is set in the BIOS to 1.53125v, Everest reports 1.51v, CPUZ reports 1.512v.
My CPU PLL is set to AUTO in BIOS.
Is there a program that displayes PLL voltage? I would like to see what AUTO is selecting for me.

The L7 Q6600's are runners... :sonic:

The B indicates 'Bad Boy' ... :slapass: (Not too many people know that!) :p:

Sweet Chip Grnfinger!

Can you give us a rundown of all of your settings - i cannot get mine stable above 3.6ghz [even that is unstable]
I'm running 3.2ghz atm

Grnfinger, you also please

EDIT: i have tried Ric2L's settings also, and they didn't work for me

I have written down what model my chip is somewhere, but from memory it is a L737[B i think]

[Grnfinger]

We just about have identical twins then... :up:

My Q6600 GO is L726B397, also with a 1.224 VID. I have Primed at 3.9GHz error free for 45 minutes. I haven't pushed it to 4.0 yet, but believe it would give it to me.

3.825GHz is where run mine for games. :cool:

Under Maximus BIOS 1004:
With a 425 FSB Frequency, 400 NB Strap, PL=9, DRAM Frequency= 850MHz, Booting reports 3.84GHz, but CPUZ reports 3.8252GHz.
My RAM is running at 5-5-5-15.

CPU voltage is set in the BIOS to 1.53125v, Everest reports 1.51v, CPUZ reports 1.512v.
My CPU PLL is set to AUTO in BIOS.
Is there a program that displayes PLL voltage? I would like to see what AUTO is selecting for me.

The L7 Q6600's are runners... :sonic:

The B indicates 'Bad Boy' ... :slapass: (Not too many people know that!) :p:

Sweet Chip Grnfinger!

You can see the AUTO value of CPU PLL in your bios under hardware monitor
I have been trying to get 475x8 running smooth but I dont think its a go, I only need 1.475 bios 1.46 actual to run 425x9 prime blend stable.



Can you give us a rundown of all of your settings - i cannot get mine stable above 3.6ghz [even that is unstable]
I'm running 3.2ghz atm

Grnfinger, you also please

EDIT: i have tried Ric2L's settings also, and they didn't work for me

I have written down what model my chip is somewhere, but from memory it is a L737[B i think]

Here is a prime blend stable 3.6GHz setting, your ram wont be able to handle 1200 MHz so you will need to run 333 strap and maybe 1080 on the ram. or run 1:1 @900MHz 4-4-4-12

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.38
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[aussie-revhead]

My rig wont run on those voltages , just about all have to be higher , and when ever I touch transaction booster it wont post , seems to work best for me on auto , same with static read control.

Scottath - check PM dude.

:up:

[Grnfinger]

Potential n00b question here

Is anyone using the latest Matrix drivers from Intel??
RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager (5615KB) 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007

I'm using the original shipping version atm 7.5.0.1017, wonder who if any were using the latest and if there is any benifit to upgrading, or should I not fix what is not broken??

[OVERK|LL]

Potential n00b question here

Is anyone using the latest Matrix drivers from Intel??
RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager (5615KB) 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007

I'm using the original shipping version atm 7.5.0.1017, wonder who if any were using the latest and if there is any benifit to upgrading, or should I not fix what is not broken??


I'm using it, but no real difference.

[Grnfinger]

Heres a 3.8GHz setting for you guys having trouble, its prime blend stable

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.46
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[ante_ante]

Which bios does you guys prefer with a dualcore example E8400 ? Trying to get my new E8400 Q810A230 stable at 4ghz with 1.3v and right now i´m on 1.31v when i look at cpuz. 1.3250 set in bios but some volt drop. The cpu need less voltage when i picking out one graphiccard and don´t run crossfire.

[Talonman]

What exactly is that? (PL=9)
Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9


Can you give us a rundown of all of your settings - i cannot get mine stable above 3.6ghz [even that is unstable]
I'm running 3.2ghz atm

Grnfinger, you also please

EDIT: i have tried Ric2L's settings also, and they didn't work for me

I have written down what model my chip is somewhere, but from memory it is a L737[B i think]

Sure!

I am using the following BIOS settings, and only changing FSB Frequency, and the lowest possible voltage I can to Prime error free two hours. My system has a nasty habit of getting an error 1Hr 10min into prime, if the CPU is a wee bit low on voltage for stability. That is why I only record data after 2 hours of error free run time.

Here is my 1004 Bios settings, and were used for generating all chart data below.

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : XXX (Select from listing below)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-XXXMHz (Changes based on FSB selected)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : X.XXXXv (See listing)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.65v's.)
DRAM Voltage : 1.96v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 2.10v's.)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.55v's.)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.09v's.)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.57v's.)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Note: The only thing OC'ed on my GX2 SSC is the fan! ;)
FSB -- DDR2 ----- BIOS ----- CPU-Z ------ BIOS ---- Everest - CPU-Z -- 3DMark06 - SM2.0 -- SM3.0 --- CPU ---- Vantage --- CPU -- Graphics
420 -- 840MHz -- 3.79GHz -- 3.7801GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,296 -- 7,661 --- 9,062 --- 5,375 --- P10,553 -- 13,167 -- 9,898

421 -- 842MHz -- 3.80GHz -- 3.7895GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,305 -- 7,647 --- 9,078 --- 5,385 --- P10,553 -- 13,164 -- 9,899

422 -- 844MHz -- 3.81GHz -- 3.7979GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,364 -- 7,690 --- 9,113 --- 5,369 --- P10,583 -- 13,281 -- 9,912

423 -- 846MHz -- 3.82GHz -- 3.8074GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,164 -- 7,550 --- 9,042 --- 5,358 --- P10,595 -- 13,441 -- 9,896

424 -- 848MHz -- 3.83GHz -- 3.8164GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,226 -- 7,570 --- 9,047 --- 5,419 --- P10,574 -- 13,254 -- 9,906

425 -- 850MHz -- 3.84GHz -- 3.8252GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,503 -- 7,766 --- 9,141 --- 5,428 --- P10,574 -- 13,262 -- 9,905

426 -- 852MHz -- 3.85GHz -- 3.8346GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.53v -- 1.528v -- 19,499 -- 7,762 --- 9,123 --- 5,447 --- P10,564 -- 13,232 -- 9,899

427 -- 854MHz -- 3.86GHz -- 3.8430GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.52v -- 1.520v -- 19,237 -- 7,598 --- 9,015 --- 5,385 --- P10,475 -- 13,515 -- 9,745

428 -- 856MHz -- 3.87GHz -- 3.8525GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.52v -- 1.520v -- 19,592 -- 7,795 --- 9,185 --- 5,457 --- P10,453 -- 13,486 -- 9,724

Still working on it...
For each FSB test, I rebooted and waited for all disk activity to stop. I ran Vantage first, then 3DMark06 second. Each program only received 1 run, and data was recorded.

Chart data recorded:
FSB selected - What DDR2 Frequency will be required - How fast the BIOS reports when booting - How fast CPU-Z reports from Vista - Lowest voltage required to Prime 2hrs (BIOS setting) - Everest reported Core voltage - CPU-Z reported core voltage - 3DMark06 score using default settings - 3DMark Vantage using default settings.

Currently with just my CPU and NB in my loop, my max temp's don't cross 60C two hours into Prime! Usually around 55C most of the time on all 4 cores. It only spikes to about 59C for a few seconds, even when I'm hitting my chip with 1.5v's.


You can see the AUTO value of CPU PLL in your bios under hardware monitor.

I only need 1.475 bios 1.46 actual to run 425x9 prime blend stable.

Thanks for the info... :up:
I will say that BIOS 1004 takes a wee bit more core voltage than 907 did, for me to be able to Prime 3.81GHz error free.
With a 424 FSB my CPU voltage was 1.51250v (BIOS) under 907, and Primed four hours error free, -vs- 1.53125v (BIOS) under 1004, Primed two hours error free.
1004 requires 0.01875 more core voltage BIOS setting, with the FSB at 424 to Prime error free. I do wonder if I should go back to 907 from time to time. I wish they would release an 'official' newer Maximus BIOS, and I would jump on that one for sure...
NOTE: I did go to 4GB RAM and a GX2 when I flashed to 1004 from 907. Mabey that's in on the deal too? :shrug:

[Grnfinger]

Priming it now :D

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/40-2.jpg

[Talonman]

4GHz! Yepp... She's a runner!

I see 1.552 Core voltage. How are your temps? :clap:

[Grnfinger]

4GHz! Yepp... She's a runner!

I see 1.552 Core voltage. How are your temps? :clap:

Hottest core is 73c, not great but not horrid.
I have a Swiftech 220 rad to add to my loop once my new tubing comes in, that should sort out any temp issues, I thought buying a PA120.3 would keep the temps way down, guess not.
Should have bought a water keg:shakes:

[scottath]

Thanks for the bios templates guys, i'll try them tonight after school

[ZenEffect]

Hottest core is 73c, not great but not horrid.
I have a Swiftech 220 rad to add to my loop once my new tubing comes in, that should sort out any temp issues, I thought buying a PA120.3 would keep the temps way down, guess not.
Should have bought a water keg:shakes:

im working on bringing the quad up to where i was before. last night i primed 3.93ghz @ 1.48 for a few hours (.02V more than maximus)

so far, ive been seeing, the maximus takes less volts and gets better bandwidth. but ive yet to tweak it out completely so the story may change in the next week or so when i clock it up to speed.

its very interesting to me that our cpu's scale almost identically.

are you on vista?

[Grnfinger]

im working on bringing the quad up to where i was before. last night i primed 3.93ghz @ 1.48 for a few hours (.02V more than maximus)

so far, ive been seeing, the maximus takes less volts and gets better bandwidth. but ive yet to tweak it out completely so the story may change in the next week or so when i clock it up to speed.

its very interesting to me that our cpu's scale almost identically.

are you on vista?

Yes I am dumb enough to run Vista:shrug:
I am very pleased with this chip so far, its the best one I have had ( I've bought 4 of them ) It's a keeper for sure.
How did you make out on your chip? did it finally post or was it DOA?
I might sell the 8400, waiting on a QX deal if it goes through I will want to part out with the dual core.

[ZenEffect]

Yes I am dumb enough to run Vista:shrug:
I am very pleased with this chip so far, its the best one I have had ( I've bought 4 of them ) It's a keeper for sure.
How did you make out on your chip? did it finally post or was it DOA?
I might sell the 8400, waiting on a QX deal if it goes through I will want to part out with the dual core.

cpu was doa. awaiting the rma still (newegg, went out today, they get it tomorrow so projected turn around time will be tuesday)

id part with the 8400 as well for a qx :)

if you HAVE to have dx10 *the only reason id ever go to vista* let me know, i can pm you my server 2008 cd key when i get home (100% genuine, not pirated).

my impressions of the dfi is this, the asus pwns it w/ the quad. dont know about dual... YET :p:.

1 last note. when i was using coollaboratories tim, my temps were no less than 7c lower than the arctic silver 5 im using now. just thought you should know.

[newls1]

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9



Sure!

I am using the following BIOS settings, and only changing FSB Frequency, and the lowest possible voltage I can to Prime error free two hours. My system has a nasty habit of getting an error 1Hr 10min into prime, if the CPU is a wee bit low on voltage for stability. That is why I only record data after 2 hours of error free run time.

Here is my 1004 Bios settings, and were used for generating all chart data below.

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : XXX (Select from listing below)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-XXXMHz (Changes based on FSB selected)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : X.XXXXv (See listing)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.65v's.)
DRAM Voltage : 1.96v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 2.10v's.)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.55v's.)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.09v's.)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.57v's.)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Note: The only thing OC'ed on my GX2 SSC is the fan! ;)
FSB -- DDR2 ----- BIOS ----- CPU-Z ------ BIOS ---- Everest - CPU-Z -- 3DMark06 - SM2.0 -- SM3.0 --- CPU ---- Vantage --- CPU -- Graphics
420 -- 840MHz -- 3.79GHz -- 3.7801GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,296 -- 7,661 --- 9,062 --- 5,375 --- P10,553 -- 13,167 -- 9,898

421 -- 842MHz -- 3.80GHz -- 3.7895GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,305 -- 7,647 --- 9,078 --- 5,385 --- P10,553 -- 13,164 -- 9,899

422 -- 844MHz -- 3.81GHz -- 3.7979GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,364 -- 7,690 --- 9,113 --- 5,369 --- P10,583 -- 13,281 -- 9,912

423 -- 846MHz -- 3.82GHz -- 3.8074GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,164 -- 7,550 --- 9,042 --- 5,358 --- P10,595 -- 13,441 -- 9,896

424 -- 848MHz -- 3.83GHz -- 3.8164GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,226 -- 7,570 --- 9,047 --- 5,419 --- P10,574 -- 13,254 -- 9,906

425 -- 850MHz -- 3.84GHz -- 3.8252GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,503 -- 7,766 --- 9,141 --- 5,428 --- P10,574 -- 13,262 -- 9,905

426 -- 852MHz -- 3.85GHz -- 3.8346GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.53v -- 1.528v -- 19,499 -- 7,762 --- 9,123 --- 5,447 --- P10,564 -- 13,232 -- 9,899

427 -- 854MHz -- 3.86GHz -- 3.8430GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.52v -- 1.520v -- 19,237 -- 7,598 --- 9,015 --- 5,385 --- P10,475 -- 13,515 -- 9,745

428 -- 856MHz -- 3.87GHz -- 3.8525GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.52v -- 1.520v -- 19,592 -- 7,795 --- 9,185 --- 5,457 --- P10,453 -- 13,486 -- 9,724

Still working on it...
For each FSB test, I rebooted and waited for all disk activity to stop. I ran Vantage first, then 3DMark06 second. Each program only received 1 run, and data was recorded.

Chart data recorded:
FSB selected - What DDR2 Frequency will be required - How fast the BIOS reports when booting - How fast CPU-Z reports from Vista - Lowest voltage required to Prime 2hrs (BIOS setting) - Everest reported Core voltage - CPU-Z reported core voltage - 3DMark06 score using default settings - 3DMark Vantage using default settings.

Currently with just my CPU and NB in my loop, my max temp's don't cross 60C two hours into Prime! Usually around 55C most of the time on all 4 cores. It only spikes to about 59C for a few seconds, even when I'm hitting my chip with 1.5v's.



Thanks for the info... :up:
I will say that BIOS 1004 takes a wee bit more core voltage than 907 did, for me to be able to Prime 3.81GHz error free.
With a 424 FSB my CPU voltage was 1.51250v (BIOS) under 907, and Primed four hours error free, -vs- 1.53125v (BIOS) under 1004, Primed two hours error free.
1004 requires 0.01875 more core voltage BIOS setting, with the FSB at 424 to Prime error free. I do wonder if I should go back to 907 from time to time. I wish they would release an 'official' newer Maximus BIOS, and I would jump on that one for sure...
NOTE: I did go to 4GB RAM and a GX2 when I flashed to 1004 from 907. Mabey that's in on the deal too? :shrug:


Very organized results Talonman:up: Well done sir!

[Speederlander]

Can anyone confirm the ECC option on this board for the RAM?

[ZenEffect]

Can anyone confirm the ECC option on this board for the RAM?

i believe its called "super memory profile" or something like that in bios. pretty much is useless though.

[Speederlander]

i believe its called "super memory profile" or something like that in bios. pretty much is useless though.

No, it would be called ECC in the bios. It's error correcting code and it's set for ECC RAM and it's not useless.

[ZenEffect]

No, it would be called ECC in the bios. It's error correcting code and it's set for ECC RAM and it's not useless.

my mistake, i was thinking the "enhanced memory profiles" EPP (long day at work)

i dont believe there is a bios switch for ecc, but then again, i also dont understand why a manufacturer wouldnt use it and would give the option to disable it.

[Talonman]

Very organized results Talonman:up: Well done sir!

Thanks! :cool::D

[Zucker2k]

No, it would be called ECC in the bios. It's error correcting code and it's set for ECC RAM and it's not useless.

I think ECC RAM is supported by this board.

[Speederlander]

I think ECC RAM is supported by this board.

Can someone 100% confirm before I spend $250. :eek::D

[ZenEffect]

Can someone 100% confirm before I spend $250. :eek::D

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1889&l1=3&l2=11&l3=572&l4=0

says support :)

ecc, non ecc and unbuffered. really the best place to ask would be asus themselves... but good luck getting a timely answer.

*back to work on the ram, trying to get even close to the same bandwidth i had before*

[Zucker2k]

Can someone 100% confirm before I spend $250. :eek::D

Check the ram support:

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1889&l1=3&l2=11&l3=572&l4=0

[Nuckin_Futs]

The L7 Q6600's are runners... :sonic:

The B indicates 'Bad Boy' ... :slapass: (Not too many people know that!) :p:

Sweet Chip Grnfinger! Are you speaking in slang as in Bad is "good" or is it realy bad as in no good? And the runner, is a "good" runner or one to "run from"? JUst wanna make sure.


Potential n00b question here

Is anyone using the latest Matrix drivers from Intel??
RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager (5615KB) 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007

I'm using the original shipping version atm 7.5.0.1017, wonder who if any were using the latest and if there is any benifit to upgrading, or should I not fix what is not broken?? Yes, I am and have been since new, and so far so good, a bit more stable on overclocks.


Can anyone confirm the ECC option on this board for the RAM? YES, this mobo suports ECC but ECC RAM will not overclock like the ones most of us are using. Also, I was wondering, since Rampage and most X48 do not support, how does this effect the RF hack on MF? is ECC blanked out now?

[ZenEffect]

Check the ram support:

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1889&l1=3&l2=11&l3=572&l4=0

beat you to it :p:




YES, this mobo suports ECC but ECC RAM will not overclock like the ones most of us are using. Also, I was wondering, since Rampage and most X48 do not support, how does this effect the RF hack on MF? is ECC blanked out now?

asus says they support ecc w/ the rampage. unless there is other published information saying otherwise?

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=2070&l1=3&l2=11&l3=640&l4=0

*twice now!* :p::p:

[Speederlander]

beat you to it :p:



asus says they support ecc w/ the rampage. unless there is other published information saying otherwise?

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=2070&l1=3&l2=11&l3=640&l4=0

*twice now!* :p::p:


I see the ECC support on the maxiumus but not the Rampage...

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

just bought the asus formula a low end cpu watercooling system- good and silent though and an E3110

im pretty stuck here at 4.1 ghz , i can go higher but cpu seems to require a lot of voltage, and my siberian tiger really cant keep up with more....i can do orthos with temps below 65 now....but somehow i think it might be some motherboard settings i miss..most of them are at auto still..the pll and stuff really confuses me a lot, RAM isnt an issue at the moment, if i can get 500 fsb i will be happy.....

im giving the cpu about 1.45v which i consider a bit too high for the freq....i had no problems reaching 430 but above that the instability kicked in... i have adjusted nb and sb voltage and ram voltage....but i hope some of u out there can help me with some settigns that might push the cpu/board the last 50 fsb....on the other side it might just be the cpu, that is unlucky....some bios settings with others with a E8400/E3110 or like that would be helpful ...and yes, i have problems with raid in win xp pro as well as some ppl have in vista.....

[Speederlander]

Anand says the Rampage is non-ECC but on various sites selling it they say it is ECC and the asus website doesn't mention either...blah

[ZenEffect]

I see the ECC support on the maxiumus but not the Rampage...

it says it right on the page. i linked

4 x DIMM, Max. 8 GB, DDR2 1200*/1066/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory

they definitely could have made it easier to see... or used proper punctuation. looks like ecc is part of 667. but given your information, i would call asus. $250 is too much money to spend for something that "might" work.

[Speederlander]

it says it right on the page. i linked

4 x DIMM, Max. 8 GB, DDR2 1200*/1066/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory

they definitely could have made it easier to see... or used proper punctuation. looks like ecc is part of 667.

Actually, I don't think the page fully loaded for me before. All those details were blank. Excellent, thx.

[bummerboy]

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

there is version 8.0.0.1039 which is whql but non-official.. been good so far in vista x64



Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Potential n00b question here

Is anyone using the latest Matrix drivers from Intel??
RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager (5615KB) 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007

I'm using the original shipping version atm 7.5.0.1017, wonder who if any were using the latest and if there is any benifit to upgrading, or should I not fix what is not broken??

[scottath]

I have tried almost all the settings posted and still have a BSOD 0x00000124 when priming - prime doesnt fail - it just bluescreens
Has anyone got a solution to this error - or should i just do Another fresh load of windows? [i had this problem with my old board also]

[jVIDIA]

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ? :bsod:

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB :(

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz :(

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t :mad:

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them. :down:

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

[Talonman]

Are you speaking in slang as in Bad is "good" or is it realy bad as in no good? And the runner, is a "good" runner or one to "run from"? JUst wanna make sure.

I was just jokeing that the L7 Q6600's seem to be the ones to have due to their ability to OC so well. Better than the L8's! ;)

[Stanley Pain]

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ? :bsod:

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB :(

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz :(

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t :mad:

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them. :down:

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?


Dial in ALL the RAM timings and disable DRAM Static read control and see if that helps. Perhaps bump the Vdimm a notch if you're not already running it high.

[Zucker2k]

I'm usually all about cpu frequency but I'm very happy with this...
Next, I'll be playing with ram tweaks and see if I can maintain stability. NB is at 1.60v (everest), VFSB is 1.394v. I'll try to tweak these down a little bit.

[masska]

Hi guys, I've finally got my tracers back from Crucial a few days ago.And I must say these feel and behave a lot better than my original red ones (these are double sided aswell). Anyway I got a 3.6 OC quite easy (stable and OCCT),I did manage to get up to 3.8 and 3.9, however it wasn't stable. Now I dont want to keep messing arround with it too much as this is my work machine aswell, and I dont wont to corrupt the OS. So I'm looking for your help to get me up to 3.8 or 3.9. My temps are 35c idle and 60-64 stress/load @ 3.6 and almost identical at 3.9. These are my settings.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 9
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax Level : 0
CPU Voltage : 1.44375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.08
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.150
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[GiN]

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ?

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them.

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

i flashed rampage bios 0401 and now i cant boot any oc even with old bios lcd poster says det ram if try oc. before this i get 450mhz x9.5 4.3ghz @1.32 vcore. i have tryed every thing gtl, voltages, ram settings, another memory sets and mother board etc etc no boot even little oc

[iadstudio]

Hi guys, I've finally got my tracers back from Crucial a few days ago.And I must say these feel and behave a lot better than my original red ones (these are double sided aswell). Anyway I got a 3.6 OC quite easy (stable and OCCT),I did manage to get up to 3.8 and 3.9, however it wasn't stable. Now I dont want to keep messing arround with it too much as this is my work machine aswell, and I dont wont to corrupt the OS. So I'm looking for your help to get me up to 3.8 or 3.9. My temps are 35c idle and 60-64 stress/load @ 3.6 and almost identical at 3.9. These are my settings.



Watch the timings on the 8gb of memory. You don't want it too tight with 8gb and a serious cpu OC.

[Grnfinger]

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

there is version 8.0.0.1039 which is whql but non-official.. been good so far in vista x64

Thanks for the link :up:


Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ? :bsod:

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB :(

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz :(

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t :mad:

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them. :down:

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

The Det Dram hang is a result of memory timing and wrong TRD/PL setting
for 1066 you will need a PL of 7 to boot, 6 is to strong of a setting, there is a table that can help when setting this

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/memory_table.png

Anandtech goes into it rather well and there is a blurb about it on OCZ

here are the links
OCZ TRD calculator ---> http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36361
Anandtech Article-----> http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=1

Once you understand this simple math your DET DRAM hang will be a thing of the past.

[OVERK|LL]

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ? :bsod:

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB :(

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz :(

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t :mad:

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them. :down:

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

Are your sticks on the compat list? My Crucial Ballistix 667's are running at 1066 with nothing more than some mild suggested timing and voltage settings by another user on this forum a page back.

[Grnfinger]

Fragman;3001317']just bought the asus formula a low end cpu watercooling system- good and silent though and an E3110

im pretty stuck here at 4.1 ghz , i can go higher but cpu seems to require a lot of voltage, and my siberian tiger really cant keep up with more....i can do orthos with temps below 65 now....but somehow i think it might be some motherboard settings i miss..most of them are at auto still..the pll and stuff really confuses me a lot, RAM isnt an issue at the moment, if i can get 500 fsb i will be happy.....

im giving the cpu about 1.45v which i consider a bit too high for the freq....i had no problems reaching 430 but above that the instability kicked in... i have adjusted nb and sb voltage and ram voltage....but i hope some of u out there can help me with some settigns that might push the cpu/board the last 50 fsb....on the other side it might just be the cpu, that is unlucky....some bios settings with others with a E8400/E3110 or like that would be helpful ...and yes, i have problems with raid in win xp pro as well as some ppl have in vista.....

I have a E8400 4.4GHz setting that has very decent bandwidth, it might help you some....

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/stable_4400.jpg

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 489
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1174
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[MurderCityDevil]

Hey grnfinger, here are my latest stable settings. (i'm the guy who couldn't get to 3.8 stable). these are the settings I'm using atm for 3.6 with rampage bios 0401 on a mf non-se -

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : stronger (don't remember exactly)
Transaction Booster : auto
-Relax Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.381250
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.54
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.26
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

based on these settings, can you suggest what I might need to hit 3.8?

[advapi]

excuse me isn't CPU Voltage : 1.475 too much for a E8400?? Can I keep it for daily or what u suggest? now i'm at 480*8 at 1.3500V at 47°in full orthos (4hours), think I've to give more than 1.4Vcore for reaching 4Ghz, thanks

[Grnfinger]

excuse me isn't CPU Voltage : 1.475 too much for a E8400?? Can I keep it for daily or what u suggest? now i'm at 480*8 at 1.3500V at 47°in full orthos (4hours), think I've to give more than 1.4Vcore for reaching 4Ghz, thanks

with the vdroop on this board 1.475 is about 1.455, Intel white paper states 1.45 max, so I would think its ok for 24/7 use, I have ran it for 3 months with now issues.
But this is Extreme Systems not mediocre systems:rofl:


Hey grnfinger, here are my latest stable settings. (i'm the guy who couldn't get to 3.8 stable). these are the settings I'm using atm for 3.6 with rampage bios 0401 on a mf non-se -

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : stronger (don't remember exactly)
Transaction Booster : auto
-Relax Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.54
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

based on these settings, can you suggest what I might need to hit 3.8?

Suggestions are in bold

[melanko]

I have a E8400 4.4GHz setting that has very decent bandwidth, it might help you some....

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/stable_4400.jpg


Nice, 3 Degrees outside.

Good results.:up:

[Nuckin_Futs]

So, still nobody playing with a Q9450 on the MAXIMUS yet? Or I guess I'll have to wait for somebody new to ask and read the results. Maybe a Q9550 w/ an 8.5x FID?

[cadaveca]

45nm FSB crawling is just that, crawling. I'm hoping to see better than what I've got, but I'm doubtful...X48 seems the ticket for 45nm.

[Talonman]

Odd thing just happened to my system. Fired it up at 4AM today, read a few messages, and system started shutting down on it's own. It also tried to restart too. I have made no system changes in the last few days except the Vista update that came out yesterday I believe. My auto update feature grabbed it.

When my system tried to reboot it looked like it was working, but went into a endless rebooting loop.

After about 5 reboots I received the message the last attempt to reboot was unsuccessful and selected to boot in safe mode. Safe mode came up fine, and the system appeared to be willing to stay up.

I then rebooted again into Vista in normal mode, and things seem to be right back to normal...

So odd, but it dosen't give me a very good feeling, that I have for the first time seen my system get locked into an endless rebooting loop.

Any ideas what it could have been?

[Leeghoofd]

Think you answered it yaself... one of the reasons I just disable all that autoupdate crap... I still run al my Pc's on XP Pro(64) with SP2 no updates at all (not even IE7)

[icecpu]

I have one simple question
Do I set at 0.63x or 0.67x for
CPU GTL Reference : ????

What is this setting for and what's the difference ?? Does it effect overclocking or do damaging to the cpu
I have E8400, thanks

[Kyo`]

Hello after a while :p:
I have some issues with my newly bought Maximus. For a start, it overvolts every voltage - except VCORE - by +0.05-0.1v. I set PLL on 1.5v, it's working on 1.6v. I set NB on 1.41, and in reality it's 1.46v, and so on. Is this normal?
Next thing is something that bothers me greatly. I own a pair of 1GB 1066 KingMax RAM sticks, which worked great on my old DS3R, that are supported officialy by the Maximus (at least that's what the fookin manual says). But no matter what settings I use, and I've tried really everything doing 2 weeks of tests, they don't want to work properly. When I set them on 900MHz (1:1 FSB ratio, 3600MHz Q6600) and start blending in Prime, I get errors after ~45 mins (just when the 896K test starts). When I set them on 1066MHz, I get errors after 1 min of blending - they don't even pass the first test! And I get instant freezes/restarts when playing games too.
At first I thought it's a RAM problem, so I installed another pair of KingMax's (yes, I love them), which are also mentioned in the officially supported list. This time it was a 800MHz pair, which worked great @ 960MHz on the DS3R. But that didn't solve the problem, even on those sticks I still get the blending errors as soon as the 896K test starts.
It's also worth mentioning that I pass the small FTT's test 5H+ with no errors, so the CPU works fine - it's purely a RAM situation here.
What the hell is the problem here, could it be a motherboard hardware problem? Is something wrong with the board and I should RMA it?
The issues started as soon as I got the board, on the 802 bios. Then I tried 2 other bios versions - 1004 and 1201, but that didn't change anything. Could flashing to Rampage Formula help?
When I said I tried every setting, I really mean it - various voltages and their combinations, straps, ratios, transaction boosters etc.
I need some advice badly, I'm desperate, sending another ASUS board to RMA is just too much :down:

OK, my problem is over. I bought some OCZ Reaper 1066 sticks, and... they work just fine and stable on normal voltage and timings and a tad more mhz!
So the conclusion is: although the KingMax sticks are officialy supported by this board, in reality they're not! So as much as I respect these sticks for being cheap as hell and good, they're just not meant to be for this board - avoid at all cost. They're fine with Gigabyte thought ;)
Cheers.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Odd thing just happened to my system. Fired it up at 4AM today, read a few messages, and system started shutting down on it's own. It also tried to restart too. I have made no system changes in the last few days except the Vista update that came out yesterday I believe. My auto update feature grabbed it.

When my system tried to reboot it looked like it was working, but went into a endless rebooting loop.

After about 5 reboots I received the message the last attempt to reboot was unsuccessful and selected to boot in safe mode. Safe mode came up fine, and the system appeared to be willing to stay up.

I then rebooted again into Vista in normal mode, and things seem to be right back to normal...

So odd, but it dosen't give me a very good feeling, that I have for the first time seen my system get locked into an endless rebooting loop.

Any ideas what it could have been?


I'm running vista x64 SP1 and keeping up with the latest updates with no problem. It seems your system was unstable due to a not 100% stable OC. Before you conclude on it's the Vista x64 SP1 fault, make sure that you don't have any driver compatibility issues with any applications that you run. Run both OCCT/Prime to test any possible hardware failures.

[Talonman]

So far the error has not come back...

I don't know that Vista had anything to do with it. I was just trying to think if any changes had been made to my system in the last week or so. The update was the only thing that came to mind. I am a Vista 64 fan, and think SP1 rules.

I will Prime a bit more, with the settings I currently am running (My 3.6GHz for the web), has been Primed for 4 hours + already.
I haven't figured out how to get Memtest to run on Vista 64 bit, that would be a good one to run too.

First time I have ever seen my reboot issue. :shrug:
I was impressed how orderly it shut down each time. No blue screen, no error message. Just like I had selected 'Restart' myself.
I wonder if my Power button was in a funky position...

I hope it was just a one time thing. :up:

I have my replacement (RMA) Raptor being delivered soon. I had one WD1500ADFD-0 150GB only live about 5 hours total. (Nice folks to deal with too!)
I am about to start from scratch, and dive into RAID 0 for the OS, and my favorite Games. I need to find a good program that would back my 2 disk RAID array up onto my Caviar 750GB.

[Kyo`]

Hello.
Can someone post the rampage 403 bios here? This: http://rapidshare.com/files/114895439/RF0403.zip
Rapidshare is being :banana::banana::banana::banana:in gay, can't download even tho I find the damn stupid cats :|

[ante_ante]

Just notices that the new maximus formula has FSB 1600Mhz while my old one only has FSB 1333Mhz , do you think the new 1600Mhz will perform better in fsb overclocking ? Planing to for either a new formula or a real x48 rampage :)

[Grnfinger]

Hello.
Can someone post the rampage 403 bios here? This: http://rapidshare.com/files/114895439/RF0403.zip
Rapidshare is being :banana::banana::banana::banana:in gay, can't download even tho I find the damn stupid cats :|

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/

bookmark that for future use:D

[Nuckin_Futs]

Just notices that the new maximus formula has FSB 1600Mhz while my old one only has FSB 1333Mhz , do you think the new 1600Mhz will perform better in fsb overclocking ? Planing to for either a new formula or a real x48 rampage :)I wouldnt think too much different. The origional Maximus always did 1600~2000FSB out the box on first BIOS. It was CPU and dram tweaking that bottlenecked it. So if you're using a quad, not likely gonna see the FSB max of any of the current mobos. E6300 and E6850 users will see more of that then any of them.

However, it is showing that Quads can perform on lower FSB but tight NB timing, the trd "performance level".

My personal experience only really showed score increase, but not so much real worl gain over the traditional FSB OC, provided CPU can do it. Not to mention stability, mobo and chipset really need to be cranked up to match that PL tightening.
------------------

OK, it would appear nobody here can confirm, so can anybody link to info on the conpatability of real RF BIOS downloads v/s the ones posted here as to if they are actually different? I mean can the real ASUS RF v0403 be downloaded and hacked flashed to the MF, or is it spacifically written (hacked) to do that?

[Nuckin_Futs]

Just notices that the new maximus formula has FSB 1600Mhz while my old one only has FSB 1333Mhz , do you think the new 1600Mhz will perform better in fsb overclocking ? Planing to for either a new formula or a real x48 rampage :)I wouldnt think too much different. The origional Maximus always did 1600~2000FSB out the box on first BIOS. It was CPU and dram tweaking that bottlenecked it. So if you're using a quad, not likely gonna see the FSB max of any of the current mobos. E6300 and E6850 users will see more of that then any of them.

However, it is showing that Quads can perform on lower FSB but tight NB timing, the trd "performance level".

My personal experience only really showed score increase, but not so much real worl gain over the traditional FSB OC, provided CPU can do it. Not to mention stability, mobo and chipset really need to be cranked up to match that PL tightening.
------------------

OK, it would appear nobody here can confirm, so can anybody link to info on the conpatability of real RF BIOS downloads v/s the ones posted here as to if they are actually different? I mean can the real ASUS RF v0403 be downloaded and hacked flashed to the MF, or is it spacifically written (hacked) to do that?

Aslo, any word on if we can hack the BIOS ro jsut flash for new P5E3 Premium for use of multu CPU GTL_Ref on our MF?

[Kyo`]

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/

bookmark that for future use:D

Yes, I know the ASUS site :) But is it really the same bios? The link on the 1st page is to a ~2mb zip file, while the one you provided is a ~1mb zip file.
OK nvm I have it now - rapidshare happy hours o/

[chawks2]

I have one simple question
Do I set at 0.63x or 0.67x for
CPU GTL Reference : ????

CPU GTL for 65nm = .67x
CPU GTL for 45nm (E8400) = .63x

[Talonman]

I think I know why I was rebooting. We just lost total power at the house for a few minutes. Turnes out the boy's were working on the power lines today near my house. I bet we weren't quite up to snuff on voltage this AM.

The wife knew about it, I didn't! :p:

[Grnfinger]

Yes, I know the ASUS site :) But is it really the same bios? The link on the 1st page is to a ~2mb zip file, while the one you provided is a ~1mb zip file.
OK nvm I have it now - rapidshare happy hours o/

exactly where do you think they come from... Santa Clause??

you ever hear about file compression?? thats why ppl zip files

[OVERK|LL]

I wouldnt think too much different. The origional Maximus always did 1600~2000FSB out the box on first BIOS. It was CPU and dram tweaking that bottlenecked it. So if you're using a quad, not likely gonna see the FSB max of any of the current mobos. E6300 and E6850 users will see more of that then any of them.

However, it is showing that Quads can perform on lower FSB but tight NB timing, the trd "performance level".

My personal experience only really showed score increase, but not so much real worl gain over the traditional FSB OC, provided CPU can do it. Not to mention stability, mobo and chipset really need to be cranked up to match that PL tightening.
------------------

OK, it would appear nobody here can confirm, so can anybody link to info on the conpatability of real RF BIOS downloads v/s the ones posted here as to if they are actually different? I mean can the real ASUS RF v0403 be downloaded and hacked flashed to the MF, or is it spacifically written (hacked) to do that?

Aslo, any word on if we can hack the BIOS ro jsut flash for new P5E3 Premium for use of multu CPU GTL_Ref on our MF?

I believe it is the flags used with the engineering release (and the need to use the engineering release) of afudos that facilitates the conversion, not the actual BIOS bin files.

[Kyo`]

exactly where do you think they come from... Santa Clause??

you ever hear about file compression?? thats why ppl zip files

Yep I heard about it... just didn't expect some morons would actually set a 0% compression rate :p: Just had me thinking that maybe it's somekinda h4x0r bios somehow different from the official :rofl: Anyway everything is dandy now, rampage formula on :up:

[kup]

Yep I heard about it... just didn't expect some morons would actually set a 0% compression rate :p: Just had me thinking that maybe it's somekinda h4x0r bios somehow different from the official :rofl: Anyway everything is dandy now, rampage formula on :up:

That "moron" would be me. I set them to Storage as opposed to Compression to guarantee the integrity of the bios files. Also, the way I keep them hosted without being deleted is because of the file size and the Rapidshare FreeZone rules allowing me to keep them.

If you don't like the way I do it, go find the files by yourself.

[Grnfinger]

That "moron" would be me. I set them to Storage as opposed to Compression to guarantee the integrity of the bios files. Also, the way I keep them hosted without being deleted is because of the file size and the Rapidshare FreeZone rules allowing me to keep them.

If you don't like the way I do it, go find the files by yourself.

I like the way you do it :rofl::ROTF::rofl:

Did you grab a DFI board yet, or still sitting on the fence?

I'm looking real hard at the LT X48 T2R

[Kyo`]

That "moron" would be me. I set them to Storage as opposed to Compression to guarantee the integrity of the bios files. Also, the way I keep them hosted without being deleted is because of the file size and the Rapidshare FreeZone rules allowing me to keep them.

If you don't like the way I do it, go find the files by yourself.

Whoops :D Well, no harm intented - really appreciate the work you put into the topic. The difference in filesize was just somewhat confusing. But honestly, rapidshare started to suck badly, who the hell invented those dog-cat security systems anyway... Perhaps I'll be able to find some host for the files - having some mirrors is always nice.

[kup]

I like the way you do it :rofl::ROTF::rofl:

Did you grab a DFI board yet, or still sitting on the fence?

I'm looking real hard at the LT X48 T2R

Still on the Maximus Rampage. Running a silent rig atm, with C1E and EIST enabled. I'll get back to overclocking once I move (or at the very least, my home life improves).

I have however indulged in Crossfire now...2x x1650Pro 512MB...lol...my 3870 went bang so I need both x1650 cards to get CoD4 looking semi decent and playable! :rofl:

[kup]

Whoops :D Well, no harm intented - really appreciate the work you put into the topic. The difference in filesize was just somewhat confusing. But honestly, rapidshare started to suck badly, who the hell invented those dog-cat security systems anyway... Perhaps I'll be able to find some host for the files - having some mirrors is always nice.

I'll rehost the files soon anyway, because yes, the RS dog/cat bullshi!t is annoying as hell. I have a server for the storage (the home of Redline) but just not had the time to transfer everything over and update all the links.

[Kyo`]

I'll rehost the files soon anyway, because yes, the RS dog/cat bullshi!t is annoying as hell. I have a server for the storage (the home of Redline) but just not had the time to transfer everything over and update all the links.

Nice :up: By the way, your sig made my curious what folding is... Looks like a interesting project, gonna support it with my Quad ;)

[kup]

Nice :up: By the way, your sig made my curious what folding is... Looks like a interesting project, gonna support it with my Quad ;)

Ah, good man! :cool: Head over to Redline and there are some top guides to get you up and running in record time! :cool:

Oh, and sorry for lashing out up there ^^^, got a lot going on right now, no excuse, I know. :(

[ZenEffect]

I like the way you do it :rofl::ROTF::rofl:

Did you grab a DFI board yet, or still sitting on the fence?

I'm looking real hard at the LT X48 T2R

well... if this sways you one way or the other.

pl7 *cant get 6 w/o 7 + pull ins... cant get cas4 like i could*

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/dfitweaked.jpg

tweaked the ram @ this speed... this is the best i could muster. :rolleyes:
dfi needed .026 more volts to become stable... cant even get 4.05 stable @ 4.6v... though that is probably due to gtl... silly 0-255 values are confusing as hell as the voltage changes with vtt... so there is no baseline of voltage for the 0-255... its frustrating to say the least, but i still have confidence i can surpass what i could on rampage... i just need to pull out the motherboard again and start tweaking w/ the aid of a multimeter. :)

this screenshot when a/b'd against the maximus (not rampage modded... didnt take a sc w/ these ram settings :( ) the dfi is slightly faster.

[erocker]

Well, I need some guidance. I'm running a modest OC on my Q6600 at 3.4ghz and things aren't stable, especially since I moved to Vista X64. Things run great at stock settings. Memtest checks out so I'm sure the RAM is good, I'm running 4 gigs of memory. The longest I've run Prime95 is about an hour stable. Gaming is deffinitely not stable. Here are my settings: (short list of specs at the bottom)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : x9
FSB Frequency : 378
FSB Strap to North Bridge :
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1210
DRAM Command Rate :
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO OR Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO or Disabled with Relax of 0

CPU Voltage : 1.385 (1.368 in CPU-Z)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47 (1.5 actual)
DRAM Voltage : 2.08 (2.2 actual)
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : x9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Please help me if possible it would be greatly appreciated.:)

Specs: Q6600, 4gb Transcend Axeram DDR2-1200, HD3870 (stock), Corsair HX620W, Asus Maximus Formula 1004 bios.

[ZenEffect]

Well, I need some guidance. I'm running a modest OC on my Q6600 at 3.4ghz and things aren't stable, especially since I moved to Vista X64. Things run great at stock settings. Memtest checks out so I'm sure the RAM is good, I'm running 4 gigs of memory. The longest I've run Prime95 is about an hour stable. Gaming is deffinitely not stable. Here are my settings: (short list of specs at the bottom)



Please help me if possible it would be greatly appreciated.:)

Specs: Q6600, 4gb Transcend Axeram DDR2-1200, HD3870 (stock), Corsair HX620W, Asus Maximus Formula 1004 bios.

what is your fsb strap? also that 4gb of ram isnt helping you one bit.

[erocker]

I'm sorry, missed it! It's 333mhz. Also, the VID on the processor is 1.2875 if that's any indication.:) I'm also running Vista x64. (no errors, warnings in event viewer or anything) I have it set up properly.

[ZenEffect]

have you tried the settings from page 1 of this thread?

also, is it 4x1gb sticks or 2x2gb?

im thinking its the ram @ this speed w/ 4 gigs as its stresses the northbridge... but im not sure how your computer is unstable in games. do you see artifacts or do you get hard crashes?

[erocker]

I have 4 x 1gb sticks of ram. I get hard crashes, (no artifacts/vpu crashing, card is solid) during games like TF2, WiC, etc. I too am starting to believe it's the NB along with the four sticks as that seems to be where most of the problems started when I went from two to four. Perhaps it may need more NB volts? It kind of makes sense that since I recently switched from XP to Vista x64 that the crashing has become more frequent due to more memory being used.

[ZenEffect]

I have 4 x 1gb sticks of ram. I get hard crashes, (no artifacts/vpu crashing, card is solid) during games like TF2, WiC, etc. I too am starting to believe it's the NB along with the four sticks as that seems to be where most of the problems started when I went from two to four. Perhaps it may need more NB volts? It kind of makes sense that since I recently switched from XP to Vista x64 that the crashing has become more frequent due to more memory being used.

i would imagine more nb volts (to about 1.56 real then try to lower it if stable) and nb gtl @ 67 to start.

[erocker]

Thank you, I will give it a try.:)
*Update BSOD'd playing TF2 after 10 minutes @ 1.375 cpu vcore (1.4 set in bios), and 1.53v on NB, with nb gtl @ 67x. I will try at 1.56v on the NB.

[masska]

Hey Grnfinger, can you help or offer any suggestions to get me to a stable 3.8-3.9. I know my ram will hold me back but if anyone can do it,its you:up:
These are my stable settings now;
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 9
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax Level : 0
CPU Voltage : 1.44375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.08
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.150
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
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[Kyo`]

Ah, good man! :cool: Head over to Redline and there are some top guides to get you up and running in record time! :cool:

Oh, and sorry for lashing out up there ^^^, got a lot going on right now, no excuse, I know. :(

Will do, but not really sure which client I should download for my XP... only SMP one is for Linux.
No worries, was really more of my fault then yours, no biggie :yepp:

[Stanley Pain]

I'll rehost the files soon anyway, because yes, the RS dog/cat bullshi!t is annoying as hell. I have a server for the storage (the home of Redline) but just not had the time to transfer everything over and update all the links.


If you need to host the files somewhere send me a PM and I can host them for you.


On a side note, you know that ZIP compression is a LOSSLESS format. There is no change in file integrity regardless of what compression method you use :).

[scottath]

Hey masska:

Thanks for posting your settings - just tried them and they worked [priming now - no BSOD :)] [no one else's settings have worked for me yet - THANKS!]
Now to go higher.......

[aussie-revhead]

Didnt mine work ?

:shrug:

[trt740]

anyone ever have the HD sound on there 3870x2 /3850x2 disable the maximus formulas sound card and if so how to you get your motherboards sound card to work with the x2 card .
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[ZenEffect]

anyone ever have the HD sound on there 3870x2 /3850x2 disable the maximus formulas sound card and if so how to you get your motherboards sound card to work with the x2 card .
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disable the ati hdmi sound driver. or set the default playback device back to the on board sound card. this has happened once or twice to me w/ 2900xt's when my sound card went in for rma.

[ZenEffect]

Note to Self "POST"

Using a PL lower then your ram's default could result in lower then average frame rates. For me using G.Skill 2x2GB at a PL8 (default) vs PL7/PL6 yielded lower frame rates but did improve read/write in Everest.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/4GB%20RAM%20Results/th_400x9_PL6_1066.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/4GB%20RAM%20Results/400x9_PL6_1066.jpg)
400x9 PL6

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/4GB%20RAM%20Results/th_400x9_PL7_1066.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/4GB%20RAM%20Results/400x9_PL7_1066.jpg)
400x9 PL7

For example

is the ram losing clocks due to error correction? :shrug:

[kup]

Will do, but not really sure which client I should download for my XP... only SMP one is for Linux.
No worries, was really more of my fault then yours, no biggie :yepp:

You can get SMP for Windows. Check out the Props and Bragging forum, there should be some links in there?

[Dostoyevsky77]

Background: My PSU fried a couple weeks ago, and since I've recovered, my sigged RAM has a few errors in memtest, and I fail stressing after about 2-3 hours.

Four kits of Ballistix PC2-8500 have not worked for me in a row (I get two at a time for 4GB), so I'm going to stop trying. The new RAM will not even POST, which is amazing to me consider the sigged RAM - EXACTLY the same except for batch number - worked just fine (and continues to work, except in stress/memtest). For the time being, I will continue to use these sticks because I don't think I can sell them. I am 100% Windows- and game-stable, so I'll be in no hurry to replace them. It's just odd this set works so well and new batches so poorly.

Incidentally, since my PSU fried, my old board is showing NB temps at around 49/51 idle/load. Is that too high? Final thought, if any of you need NIB MF or E8400, please PM me. I will have them to sell. They will both be in unsealed boxes directly from the Egg. (Hope it's not against ToS to post that; sorry if it is).

[Grnfinger]

Hey Grnfinger, can you help or offer any suggestions to get me to a stable 3.8-3.9. I know my ram will hold me back but if anyone can do it,its you:up:
These are my stable settings now;
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 9
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge :425
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-850
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax Level : 0
CPU Voltage : Set what you think here ( 1.475 to start?)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.08
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.150
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
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Suggestions are in bold, Get the cpu stable then we can tweak the ram if you like. I dont have 8GB's:shocked: but should be fun trying to get some decent bandwidth
keep us posted on how it goes

[scottath]

Didnt mine work ?

:shrug:

No, the settings i tried was prime stable for 1/2 hour [didn't have any time]
Everyone elses would BSOD 0x00000124 after about 5 minutes

The only thing i changed was the bios settings and i put my ram in the first 2 slots, [yellow ones - not the black ones]
Could the ram slots have effected it?

[chbmaciel]

hi guys, I just built my new pc (see my signature) and I'm trying do do some oc, but I just get my Q9300 to be running at 2.9.
I know that this thing can go faster then that.
That why I'm asking for some help.

Thanks.

PS: sorry about my english.

[RobinL]

Did someone having problems with an Asus P5e mobo when flashing it to Rampage?

[kevinali]

Hey Guys and Gals

I have a quick question,

My system is currently set up using the following settings

Q6700 @ 3.0 Ghz (333 x 9 or 12% OC) at a vcore of 1.236 (My VID is 1.2500V) (prime stable for 24 hrs), with a TRUE 120 and Synthe F fan (idle temps are 33, load temps are 46)

I have 8 GB of DDR2-667 Crucial ram (4 x 2gb @ 5-5-5-12 @ 1.8V @ 333 Mhz or 1:1 ratio)

The system runs like a charm, but every once in a while i get a blue screen with the IRQL_NOT_EQUAL message

My north bridge voltage on my Asus Maximus Formula is 1.360 V....

Given the fact that i have all 4 DIMM slots occupied, is my northbridge voltage too low and causing the errors, or should i bump up vcore (i would rather not, to keep the temps down)

What do you guys recommend for a northbridge voltage setting for a super stable system

Thanks

Kevin

[Grnfinger]

Hey Guys and Gals

I have a quick question,

My system is currently set up using the following settings

Q6700 @ 3.0 Ghz (333 x 9 or 12% OC) at a vcore of 1.236 (My VID is 1.2500V) (prime stable for 24 hrs), with a TRUE 120 and Synthe F fan (idle temps are 33, load temps are 46)

I have 8 GB of DDR2-667 Crucial ram (4 x 2gb @ 5-5-5-12 @ 1.8V @ 333 Mhz or 1:1 ratio)

The system runs like a charm, but every once in a while i get a blue screen with the IRQL_NOT_EQUAL message

My north bridge voltage on my Asus Maximus Formula is 1.360 V....

Given the fact that i have all 4 DIMM slots occupied, is my northbridge voltage too low and causing the errors, or should i bump up vcore (i would rather not, to keep the temps down)

What do you guys recommend for a northbridge voltage setting for a super stable system

Thanks

Kevin

For 8GB's 1.360 is way to low....I would start out at about maybe 1.55NB volts and adjust from there.

[MurderCityDevil]

ok, so i got sort of stable at 3.8 (about 1.5 hours stable). My cpu voltage is 1.53125, nb is 1.61, pll is 1.52 and fsbt is 1.48 i think. I tried lowering my nb since i only have 2 gbs of memory and i thought 1.61 was way too high, but instantly lost all stability. Same with cpu vcore. My temps are pretty much :banana::banana::banana::banana: so I was wondering if there's any way to lower these voltages and retain stability by tweaking something else?

[newls1]

ok, so i got sort of stable at 3.8 (about 1.5 hours stable). My cpu voltage is 1.53125, nb is 1.61, pll is 1.52 and fsbt is 1.48 i think. I tried lowering my nb since i only have 2 gbs of memory and i thought 1.61 was way too high, but instantly lost all stability. Same with cpu vcore. My temps are pretty much :banana::banana::banana::banana: so I was wondering if there's any way to lower these voltages and retain stability by tweaking something else?

If you can, watercool the N.B. X38 runs very warm:(

[Zucker2k]

ok, so i got sort of stable at 3.8 (about 1.5 hours stable). My cpu voltage is 1.53125, nb is 1.61, pll is 1.52 and fsbt is 1.48 i think. I tried lowering my nb since i only have 2 gbs of memory and i thought 1.61 was way too high, but instantly lost all stability. Same with cpu vcore. My temps are pretty much :banana::banana::banana::banana: so I was wondering if there's any way to lower these voltages and retain stability by tweaking something else?

what divider/fsb are you running? I'm running 8x500fsb with a fsbt of 1.36v; 1.28v (bios set). Also, if your PL is not tight, you can run VNB lower. I'm running 8Gbs with a PL of 9 with VNB @ 1.65v (1.61v bios set).

Edit: I'm running a Q6600. Gotta update my sig. Switched back to Q6600 as I'm done playing with 45nm dual core, and Q9450 sucks on Oc's.

[masska]

Hey masska:

Thanks for posting your settings - just tried them and they worked [priming now - no BSOD :)] [no one else's settings have worked for me yet - THANKS!]
Now to go higher.......

No probs scottath, glad you could use them. These worked the best for me so far. I've hit 3.9 on air but not stable. Will work more on the ram timmings...:up:

[Dostoyevsky77]

what divider/fsb are you running? I'm running 8x500fsb with a fsbt of 1.36v; 1.28v (bios set). Also, if your PL is not tight, you can run VNB lower. I'm running 8Gbs with a PL of 9 with VNB @ 1.65v (1.61v bios set).

Edit: I'm running a Q6600. Gotta update my sig. Switched back to Q6600 as I'm done playing with 45nm dual core, and Q9450 sucks on Oc's.

What are your NB temps? How are you cooling it?

I was thinking of getting some aftermarket air.

[RobinL]

Did someone having problems with the Asus P5e mobo when flashing it to Rampage?

Nobody?:rolleyes:

[Cranox]

Did someone having problems with an Asus P5e mobo when flashing it to Rampage?

No problems here :)

[Zucker2k]

What are your NB temps? How are you cooling it?

I was thinking of getting some aftermarket air.

I'm cooling both NB and SB with swiftech mcw30s. At 1.65v my chipset temps on load never top 35C. I see you've not been bitten by the watercooling bug yet; with this board/chipset, as in all cases, frankly, you can run high fsbs solid if you can maintain cool temps. Water is the way to go.

[RobinL]

No problems here :)


Oke Tnx.

When i flashing my Asus P5e to rampage, do i need to disable something in the bios? Because P5e having one LAN adapter and Maximus and Rampage having two?
Is it possible to welding a second LAN Adapter on de Asus P5e? Or does the P5e also don`t having the LAN chip on the board?

[Dostoyevsky77]

I'm cooling both NB and SB with swiftech mcw30s. At 1.65v my chipset temps on load never top 35C. I see you've not been bitten by the watercooling bug yet; with this board/chipset, as in all cases, frankly, you can run high fsbs solid if you can maintain cool temps. Water is the way to go.

Honestly, after this PSU fiasco if I bought one more thing for my computer, my wife would kill me. If I bought WC, my fate would be worse than death.

[ante_ante]

Anyone having random boots when trying to start the computer? It took maybe near 10min today just to get a clear boot without any issues. Sometimes it stopping at VGA BIOS and shut down, later on i get DET DRAM, and so on until i reset the clock on the cpu and run it at original speed. Very strange i think. Using rampage 0403 bios.

[chawks2]

Anyone having random boots when trying to start the computer? It took maybe near 10min today just to get a clear boot without any issues. Sometimes it stopping at VGA BIOS and shut down, later on i get DET DRAM, and so on until i reset the clock on the cpu and run it at original speed. Very strange i think. Using rampage 0403 bios.

Turbo, there was a post in the 200-215 range about why the DET RAM problem occurs. It was taken from an excellent post about tRD timings on Anandtech, check it out, should solve your issue. :up:

[Lestat]

flashed to 1201 and added another 2gb of ram (4gb total) and am getting USB detection lockups during POST.

is this a 4gb bug or am i missing something in the bios that i have enabled or need to disable.

running 1050mhz -ish 4gb 5-5-5-15 2.1v
2x1gb Gskill 6400HZ and 2x1gb Crucial Ballistix 6400 (orange spreader, not the good micron chips)

the system will boot fine if i reset the cmos, which on the Formula is a pain in the a$$ cuz you have to remove the video card to flip that switch.
once i do that and set the bios up again it runs fine but during video converting the system will reboot and then it gets stuck at detecting USB during the POST sequence.

Anyone know why this 4gb bug is happening.
it's pretty frustrating because it will boot fine then reboot or cold boot will make it pause at detecting USB.

[TKC]

So do you have problem running 1Gx4?

I have tried 2Gx2 and 2Gx4, both config. can be OCed as showed in my sig, no problem either on p5e@RF0403 or p5e vanilla.

Have you tried load default setting in bios? Or you may try to rise up Vsb a little bit as USB is controlled by SB.

[chawks2]

the system will boot fine if i reset the cmos, which on the Formula is a pain in the a$$ cuz you have to remove the video card to flip that switch.

Err..if you are talking about the switch on the mobo, it just allows you to reset the BIOS from the back CMOS clear switch?? Why would you have to remove the vid card to press the back button clear switch??

[Talonman]

Any Maximus boys feeling chatty about RAID, pop on over:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=166867&page=6

I am up and running now on RAID 0 with 2 Raptors. :up:

[vikings]

Hi, I saw that asus released new no beta bios v.1102.(0802 was the last no beta)
Anyone has installed?

[sikvdila]

Hi, I saw that asus released new no beta bios v.1102.(0802 was the last no beta)
Anyone has installed?

I install it and works fine to me

[Cranox]

Oke Tnx.

When i flashing my Asus P5e to rampage, do i need to disable something in the bios? Because P5e having one LAN adapter and Maximus and Rampage having two?
Is it possible to welding a second LAN Adapter on de Asus P5e? Or does the P5e also don`t having the LAN chip on the board?
U need to disable the second lan and some tempsensors , u cannot solder a second lanadapter there is no chip on the board.

[kup]

U need to disable the second lan and some tempsensors , u cannot solder a second lanadapter there is no chip on the board.


Oke Tnx.

When i flashing my Asus P5e to rampage, do i need to disable something in the bios? Because P5e having one LAN adapter and Maximus and Rampage having two?
Is it possible to welding a second LAN Adapter on de Asus P5e? Or does the P5e also don`t having the LAN chip on the board?

The guide on the first post explains all of this...

[Grnfinger]

Anyone having random boots when trying to start the computer? It took maybe near 10min today just to get a clear boot without any issues. Sometimes it stopping at VGA BIOS and shut down, later on i get DET DRAM, and so on until i reset the clock on the cpu and run it at original speed. Very strange i think. Using rampage 0403 bios.

I havent had a single issue with 403, Some users are reporting a tad more cpu volts are required for 403 bios, but I have not seen it myself for my quad or my 8400, but I am having a major issue's with USB controller. If any flash drive is plug'd in my cpu usage goes to 60% and my mouse ( usb conected ) goes nuts. B4 you blame 403 bios I did flash back to 401 and even loaded a Maximus bios 802 and 1004, same results. Much more of this and the mobo will die a very slow and painfull death.

[ante_ante]

I havent had a single issue with 403, Some users are reporting a tad more cpu volts are required for 403 bios, but I have not seen it myself for my quad or my 8400, but I am having a major issue's with USB controller. If any flash drive is plug'd in my cpu usage goes to 60% and my mouse ( usb conected ) goes nuts. B4 you blame 403 bios I did flash back to 401 and even loaded a Maximus bios 802 and 1004, same results. Much more of this and the mobo will die a very slow and painfull death.

Not blaming a specific bios, just blaming the whole motherboard. Have tried 0308, 0401 and the last 0403. And same issues are showing.
But this is only when the computer is overclocked.
Will try the trD trick and see if it works better ^^

[Nuckin_Futs]

U need to disable the second lan and some tempsensors , u cannot solder a second lanadapter there is no chip on the board.
What about the lack of 2 extra eSATA on another J-Micron crontroller? Does this show up as a grayed out option or just not there?

[Grnfinger]

Not blaming a specific bios, just blaming the whole motherboard. Have tried 0308, 0401 and the last 0403. And same issues are showing.
But this is only when the computer is overclocked.
Will try the trD trick and see if it works better ^^

post your setup and maybe someone can make suggestions.
wrong trd will definately give you a det dram hang

set it to 7-8 and you should post then, unless your running very high fsb then you might need 9

[scottath]

What about the lack of 2 extra eSATA on another J-Micron crontroller? Does this show up as a grayed out option or just not there?

Haven't looked for it really, but i believe that it just isn't there, haven't noticed any greyed out sata options

[Lestat]

Err..if you are talking about the switch on the mobo, it just allows you to reset the BIOS from the back CMOS clear switch?? Why would you have to remove the vid card to press the back button clear switch??

the rear switch isnt the same as the switch on the board,
the board switch is a clear cmos,, the one on the back is just a safe boot setting and it doesnt work 98% of the time.


yes i am using 4x 1gb sticks just like i said i was...

i also lose my bluetooth adapter for my mouse and keyboard so i cant even use it
if the system does boot windwos wont even use it, windwos has to reinstall all the usb devised and for some fracking reason cant find any bluetooth drivers.
its like it totally fuxors the entire USB system of the motherboard.

[cadaveca]

@ things affect USB stability, same issues you describe...chipset volts, and FSB volts. You can tell whne USB is problematic, as boot will get faster as you clock up, but when USB is affected, boot will take slightly longer, although problems will not be apparant immediately. Happens both with dual cores and quads, near max FSB, which of course differs from cpu to cpu. If you are running into this issue, you need X48....mobo is holding you back.

[chawks2]

the board switch is a clear cmos,, the one on the back is just a safe boot setting and it doesnt work 98% of the time.

The CLR CMOS button on the back of my MRF resets my BIOS 100% of the time. :D

[Lestat]

@ things affect USB stability, same issues you describe...chipset volts, and FSB volts. You can tell whne USB is problematic, as boot will get faster as you clock up, but when USB is affected, boot will take slightly longer, although problems will not be apparant immediately. Happens both with dual cores and quads, near max FSB, which of course differs from cpu to cpu. If you are running into this issue, you need X48....mobo is holding you back.

never had this issue.... EVER..
and i have verified this is 100% surrounding 1201 bios... looks like i am going back to 0401 or whatever it was i had previously.
i'll live with the "DET DRAM" issue as i can fix that just by swapping out the ram this usb crap is exactly that,, crap,, its really screwing up all my usb stuff.

USB isnt effected by voltages either, i just want to make that quite clear.
and i am not trying to knock you or anyone, but you'd know this if you'd been around long enough.
the only thing known to kick out USB devices would be if the pci bus freq is not locked at 33mhz when your overclocking totally wacked out ACPI and IRQ handling of the bios.

i have seen similar things before, long time ago with some wacko mobo's that didnt have a PCI freq. lock. but i havent seen it for a really long time.

i can take the ram back to 2 gigs and the same crap happens.....

oh well,, 1201 didnt give me anything new except the stupid DET DRAM wasnt happening all the time, it was still happening but powering off and powering back on made it boot into the bios safe mode so i could make the changes i needed.

was also getting BSOD and Reboots in XP and vista64...

oh well,, no skin off my back to rever back to an older bios...

wont do any good to tell ASUS either cuz they will just blame my hardware and not their flakey bios(s).

[cadaveca]

Maybe you should be digging into what held X38 back, why they respun. Take a look at how many X38 boards have USB issues..It's not just ASUS. X48 delay controlled? :rofl:

You don't even know how the CMOS switch works(try reading the manual for enlightenment), so your opinion doesn't look too reliable..

[ante_ante]

This is what i´m running right now. First time boot today i got vga bios again and the computer shut down. Second try windows wouldn´t boot. Then the third try and weeee, windows worked.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/87/img1097qn6.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1097qn6.jpg)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8074/img1098rq2.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1098rq2.jpg)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3336/img1099ny6.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1099ny6.jpg)
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/6189/img1100wp7.th.jpg (http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1100wp7.jpg)
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1413/img1101kp9.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1101kp9.jpg)

[Eastcoasthandle]

This is what i´m running right now. First time boot today i got vga bios again and the computer shut down. Second try windows wouldn´t boot. Then the third try and weeee, windows worked.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/87/img1097qn6.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1097qn6.jpg)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8074/img1098rq2.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1098rq2.jpg)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3336/img1099ny6.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1099ny6.jpg)
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/6189/img1100wp7.th.jpg (http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1100wp7.jpg)
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1413/img1101kp9.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1101kp9.jpg)

I've only read this post so I am not sure what else you have tried. However, it sounds to me that you need a bit more voltage for your northbridge. Try 1.51V and see if things improve. Also, leave NB GTL Reference to Auto and see if that improves stability as well.

[Zucker2k]

Maybe you should be digging into what held X38 back, why they respun. Take a look at how many X38 boards have USB issues..It's not just ASUS. X48 delay controlled? :rofl:

You don't even know how the CMOS switch works(try reading the manual for enlightenment), so your opinion doesn't look too reliable..

I said this several pages ago; the main reason why the x38 chipset was re-released as x48 was because of a USB bug. Motherboard makers were supposed to have a work-around fix for it. Looks like they haven't necessarily done so in all cases.

[Grnfinger]

never had this issue.... EVER..
and i have verified this is 100% surrounding 1201 bios... looks like i am going back to 0401 or whatever it was i had previously.
i'll live with the "DET DRAM" issue as i can fix that just by swapping out the ram this usb crap is exactly that,, crap,, its really screwing up all my usb stuff.

USB isnt effected by voltages either, i just want to make that quite clear.
and i am not trying to knock you or anyone, but you'd know this if you'd been around long enough.
the only thing known to kick out USB devices would be if the pci bus freq is not locked at 33mhz when your overclocking totally wacked out ACPI and IRQ handling of the bios.

i have seen similar things before, long time ago with some wacko mobo's that didnt have a PCI freq. lock. but i havent seen it for a really long time.

i can take the ram back to 2 gigs and the same crap happens.....

oh well,, 1201 didnt give me anything new except the stupid DET DRAM wasnt happening all the time, it was still happening but powering off and powering back on made it boot into the bios safe mode so i could make the changes i needed.

was also getting BSOD and Reboots in XP and vista64...

oh well,, no skin off my back to rever back to an older bios...

wont do any good to tell ASUS either cuz they will just blame my hardware and not their flakey bios(s).

I am also just recently experiencing a USB problem, PC will boot fine ( or appears to be fine) But once Vista is loaded if I plug any USB thumb drive in my CPU usage goes to 60% and my mouse goes nuts, no control over it .
I have re installed Vista, didnt use the Asus mobo disk and installed the latest NB ans SB drivers from Intel, also installed the latest Matrix storage manager. So far it would seem the issue is gone. The Det dram hang is easy to resolve.
Here is a link to OCZ's trd calculator ( Tony did a nice job of explaining everything) it should help rid you of the det dram

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36360


I said this several pages ago; the main reason why the x38 chipset was re-released as x48 was because of a USB bug. Motherboard makers were supposed to have a work-around fix for it. Looks like they haven't necessarily done so in all cases.

I must have missed that post, I seem to having a little usb issue of my own lately.
are you still running a rampage bios or did you conclude it was no benifit to the Maximus bios?
I am debating on returning to a Maximus bios now

[Talonman]

Do it buddy!!

We need more pure blood Maximus boy's around here! :up:

[Zucker2k]

I am also just recently experiencing a USB problem, PC will boot fine ( or appears to be fine) But once Vista is loaded if I plug any USB thumb drive in my CPU usage goes to 60% and my mouse goes nuts, no control over it .
I have re installed Vista, didnt use the Asus mobo disk and installed the latest NB ans SB drivers from Intel, also installed the latest Matrix storage manager. So far it would seem the issue is gone. The Det dram hang is easy to resolve.
Here is a link to OCZ's trd calculator ( Tony did a nice job of explaining everything) it should help rid you of the det dram

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36360



I must have missed that post, I seem to having a little usb issue of my own lately.
are you still running a rampage bios or did you conclude it was no benifit to the Maximus bios?
I am debating on returning to a Maximus bios now
I haven't bothered with the latest MF bioses yet (1101? and 1201); I like RF 0403 a lot and I have 3 quads here to play with so I'm going to stick with it. Playing with high fsb here; this is a sweet little chip (vid. 1.2500), sips vcore and should easily do 450x9. I'm liking my other chip tho, (vid. 1.2625) which does 7x500 rock solid stable, and 8x500 everest stability stable. I'm working hard to stabilize that and keep it chiefly because of the high fsb (reached 7x515). It's likes a tad more vcore. I want to see how high this chip will prime stable; so far looking good as I'm running apps and posting from this pc. Screenie:

[Grnfinger]

I haven't bothered with the latest MF bioses yet (1101? and 1201); I like RF 0403 a lot and I have 3 quads here to play with so I'm going to stick with it. Playing with high fsb here; this is a sweet little chip (vid. 1.2500), sips vcore and should easily do 450x9. I'm liking my other chip tho, (vid. 1.2625) which does 7x500 rock solid stable, and 8x500 everest stability stable. I'm working hard to stabilize that and keep it chiefly because of the high fsb (reached 7x515). It's likes a tad more vcore. I want to see how high this chip will prime stable; so far looking good as I'm running apps and posting from this pc. Screenie:

I have returned to a Q6600 aswell, I have a nice VID of 1.225, it will hit 4.0GHz easy and maybe higher I dont know yet.
I cant get my other 2 cores enabled when I run your 500x7 settings:shrug:

I was thinking on going to a DFI X48 board but after lurking in the DFI thread I see there no better off than us Maximus users, so no point in trading one pos for another:ROTF:

[Zucker2k]

Do it buddy!!

We need more pure blood Maximus boy's around here! :up:
What makes a Maximus, a Maximus? The boot logo? Anyway, I got a screenie for ya!


I have returned to a Q6600 aswell, I have a nice VID of 1.225, it will hit 4.0GHz easy and maybe higher I dont know yet.
I cant get my other 2 cores enabled when I run your 500x7 settings:shrug:

I was thinking on going to a DFI X48 board but after lurking in the DFI thread I see there no better off than us Maximus users, so no point in trading one pos for another:ROTF:

I got a funny story for ya; run into a pair of DFIs the other day, they wanted some of my Maximus. Long story short, it wasn't pretty. :rofl: Read down the thread.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2679184#post2679184

[ante_ante]

This is what i´m running right now. First time boot today i got vga bios again and the computer shut down. Second try windows wouldn´t boot. Then the third try and weeee, windows worked.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/87/img1097qn6.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1097qn6.jpg)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8074/img1098rq2.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1098rq2.jpg)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3336/img1099ny6.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1099ny6.jpg)
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/6189/img1100wp7.th.jpg (http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1100wp7.jpg)
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1413/img1101kp9.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1101kp9.jpg)

Which is the TRD " Whats the full name for it " ??

[Zucker2k]

I have returned to a Q6600 aswell, I have a nice VID of 1.225, it will hit 4.0GHz easy and maybe higher I dont know yet.
I cant get my other 2 cores enabled when I run your 500x7 settings:shrug: Have you tried playing with fsbt/NB. Maybe a little more vcore too? It's difficult to get a quad to run at 500fsb. It must be capable of it, you can't force it to, save for extreme cooling of processor/chipsets in some cases. I have a quad here with a vid of 1.3125 which also does 500fsb. So it's more cpu related than anything else. Coincidentally, there all these 500fsb capable cpus have something in common: low last 4 digits wafer numbers. I understand the first 2 figures are the X axis, last 2, Y axis (all from center).

processor 1: L741A941. Vid.: 1.2500v 4 Digit Wafer #: 0475
processor 2: L741A941. Vid.: 1.2625v 4 Digit Wafer #: 0238
processor 3: L746B022. Vid.: 1.3125v 4 Digit Wafer #: 0870

Bear in my mind that these numbers are supposed to go all the way to 99 for each axis. So it seems the closer the numbers are to 00 (center) on the X axis, the higher the fsb they are capable of running at. My 2 cents.

[Grnfinger]

Have you tried playing with fsbt/NB. Maybe a little more vcore too? It's difficult to get a quad to run at 500fsb. It must be capable of it, you can't force it to, save for extreme cooling of processor/chipsets in some cases. I have a quad here with a vid of 1.3125 which also does 500fsb. So it's more cpu related than anything else. Coincidentally, there all these 500fsb capable cpus have something in common: low last 4 digits wafer numbers. I understand the first 2 figures are the X axis, last 2, Y axis (all from center).

processor 1: L741A941. Vid.: 1.2500v 4 Digit Wafer #: 0475
processor 2: L741A941. Vid.: 1.2625v 4 Digit Wafer #: 0238
processor 3: L746B022. Vid.: 1.3125v 4 Digit Wafer #: 0870

Bear in my mind that these numbers are supposed to go all the way to 99 for each axis. So it seems the closer the numbers are to 00 (center) on the X axis, the higher the fsb they are capable of running at. My 2 cents.

I didnt up any volts from your settings, I will play around today and see what I can do, While not xtreme my cooling is very good, so heat will not be an issue running 500FSB

[MurderCityDevil]

what divider/fsb are you running? I'm running 8x500fsb with a fsbt of 1.36v; 1.28v (bios set). Also, if your PL is not tight, you can run VNB lower. I'm running 8Gbs with a PL of 9 with VNB @ 1.65v (1.61v bios set).

Edit: I'm running a Q6600. Gotta update my sig. Switched back to Q6600 as I'm done playing with 45nm dual core, and Q9450 sucks on Oc's.

im running 400 divider, 425 fsb...my pl is auto i believe, i only have 2 gigs of ram though.

[WFO]

Just in case you guys aren't following any of the Rampage Formula threads, there is a new chipset driver out on the MSI site. http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1393

It's 8.4.0.1018 and identifies itself as an X38/48 driver. FYI. :) Might or might not resolve USB issues. :shrug:

[chawks2]

Z, you're a monster! I'm happy to say I was able to get over 510 FSB w/8G on this board, hoping for some more. Yummmmm.

[Furious]

Hi.

Can i get some feedback on my voltages and temps? the board has seemed good so far, 1hr prime and 1hr OCCT.

4-4-4-12 with the RAM @ 890mhz and 1:1.
445fsb x 9
E8400 @ 4ghz

Its not stable without 1.58v for the northbridge as I have 4x1GB sticks of RAM and the CPU is not stable without 1.42V in bios. I have loadline calibration off as I heard somewhere its not worth it, I do figure with it on tho, 1.38V would be enuff. Is 44412 @ 890 better then 55515@1069?

I'm looking for a safe, fast 24/7 setup.

>> http://www.users.on.net/~remlwebb/1hr4ghz.jpg >>

[Grnfinger]

Just in case you guys aren't following any of the Rampage Formula threads, there is a new chipset driver out on the MSI site. http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1393

It's 8.4.0.1018 and identifies itself as an X38/48 driver. FYI. :) Might or might not resolve USB issues. :shrug:

There is a newer version than that but thanks for the info. I grabbed the latest driver a few days ago. It does seem that the updated chipset drivers have solved all my USB issues, if any others are having problems I would suggest trying the latest drivers.


Thanks to 003 for providing the links

Latest Intel NB http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20chipset.htm

Latest Intel SB http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

Maybe Kup you could add them to main page?

[Zucker2k]

Just in case you guys aren't following any of the Rampage Formula threads, there is a new chipset driver out on the MSI site. http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1393

It's 8.4.0.1018 and identifies itself as an X38/48 driver. FYI. :) Might or might not resolve USB issues. :shrug:Nice find; you too Grnfinger.


Z, you're a monster! I'm happy to say I was able to get over 510 FSB w/8G on this board, hoping for some more. Yummmmm.Nice overclock, but you can push it a bit more... :).


im running 400 divider, 425 fsb...my pl is auto i believe, i only have 2 gigs of ram though.What about GTL? FSBT 1.480v is too much for 425fsb; VNB is a tad high too. You can check PL in Everest/Memset.

[cadaveca]

I said this several pages ago; the main reason why the x38 chipset was re-released as x48 was because of a USB bug. Motherboard makers were supposed to have a work-around fix for it. Looks like they haven't necessarily done so in all cases.


USB* Port Disable: Enables individual USB ports to be enabled or disabled as needed. This feature provides added protection of data by preventing malicious removal or insertion of data through USB ports.

http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/x38/index.htm

This is the source of the problem. As chipset voltage increases, it's easy to "miss-trigger" this "functionality", and hence the issues some are having. It's a chipset feature, so raising SB violts as someone mentioned, isn't gonna solve the problem, unfortunately. When you start to trigger this problem, your board is close to it's limit. If it was the SB, then X48 would be suspect of having the same issues, but it does no run into this issue until much higher FSB is attained.

[Renegade5399]

Finally got this damned Q6600 rock stable at 4GHz. In my case, it was the FSBTerm and PLL volts that were too low. All I did is bump them up one notch from where I had them and 4GHz became stable.

http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?i=326_4GHzStable.jpg

Don't mind the RAM being at stock, these friggin' single sided Ballistix are garbage. OCZ FlexII 4GB kit to be here soon!

[mashakos]

thanks to this thread, I was able to get a stable 500x8 1:1 overclock from the first try! :D

I got a bit adventurous today and tried 500x9, but only got as far as POST.
I tried a broad increase of the CPU, NB and RAM voltages but got the same results.

Am I missing a subtle BIOS setting or something :confused:

[scottath]

Can you give us a run down of all you settings please Renegade5399

[Krav]

Im getting BSOD after hour or so play in counterstrike, is there anyway to find out whats causing the problem as i ran prime95 for 9 hours on current settings and it didnt crash or see any problems.

Im on bios 907 should i move to a newer one and if so which?

Thanks.

[Zucker2k]

thanks to this thread, I was able to get a stable 500x8 1:1 overclock from the first try! :D

I got a bit adventurous today and tried 500x9, but only got as far as POST.
I tried a broad increase of the CPU, NB and RAM voltages but got the same results.

Am I missing a subtle BIOS setting or something :confused:

Post settings.

[Zucker2k]

Im getting BSOD after hour or so play in counterstrike, is there anyway to find out whats causing the problem as i ran prime95 for 9 hours on current settings and it didnt crash or see any problems.

Im on bios 907 should i move to a newer one and if so which?

Thanks.

Are you p95 small ftts AND BLEND stable?

[Krav]

Are you p95 small ftts AND BLEND stable?

only tried 9 hour blend not small ftts, u reckon i should give that a go?

[Grnfinger]

only tried 9 hour blend not small ftts, u reckon i should give that a go?

I doubt its necessary, blend will test both ram and cpu , small fft's will test cpu, you could run it if you like but I'm betting Zucker2k was leaning towards a ram issue.

You have the latest gpu drivers?
I liked 1004 alot better than 907 but I was running a 8400 at the time.

[kup]

Small FFTS is best for CPU stability and Large FFTS for Ram/Northbridge stability.

[OVERK|LL]

Just for :banana::banana::banana::banana:s and grins, I converted back to Maximus and with the exact same settings, I am getting higher memory throughput on Everest? Not by a lot mind you, just about 200MB/sec, but it's consistent.

Weird........

[MurderCityDevil]

Finally got this damned Q6600 rock stable at 4GHz. In my case, it was the FSBTerm and PLL volts that were too low. All I did is bump them up one notch from where I had them and 4GHz became stable.


Don't mind the RAM being at stock, these friggin' single sided Ballistix are garbage. OCZ FlexII 4GB kit to be here soon!


what is your cpuPLL set at? I'd like to try your settings as I have never gotten 4 ghz past anything besides instant BSOD upon load.

[WFO]

There is a newer version than that but thanks for the info. I grabbed the latest driver a few days ago. It does seem that the updated chipset drivers have solved all my USB issues, if any others are having problems I would suggest trying the latest drivers.


Thanks to 003 for providing the links

Latest Intel NB http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20chipset.htm

Latest Intel SB http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm



I saw those too but any site that hits me with pop-under adds, is in a foreign language and says the drivers are unofficial, I have trouble trusting. ;) Glad they worked for you. :)

Earlier you asked any 9450 owners for settings. I didn't post simply because my results have been less than stellar so far. I had my Rampage Formula stable @ 3.6 with a 9450 and a Maximus Rampage @3.52 with bios 219. I upgraded both to bios 403 and couldn't get anywhere near the previous clocks. Both are back to 219 @3.52 for now. I'll tinker some more after I get a few more WUs uploaded. Experimenting with 403 ate up a lot of folding time. :down:

[ChaosMinionX]

Finally got this damned Q6600 rock stable at 4GHz. In my case, it was the FSBTerm and PLL volts that were too low. All I did is bump them up one notch from where I had them and 4GHz became stable.


Don't mind the RAM being at stock, these friggin' single sided Ballistix are garbage. OCZ FlexII 4GB kit to be here soon!

Can you post up your settings and voltages? I have been trying to get it stable its just not working.... chip willl do 3.8ghz so far though.

[sofarfrome]

Can you post up your settings and voltages? I have been trying to get it stable its just not working.... chip willl do 3.8ghz so far though.

Looks like the voltages are posted in the SS. 1.71NB is certainly gonna generate some heat as is the 1.53vcore and 1.62VTT.

[Renegade5399]

I will get the settings up with the template as soon as I can. Being a holiday weekend I have been out. Also, I have a really nice custom water setup and temps really aren't an issue.

[hotshot100]

I have just got my new Q9450 , I dont know why but I have some problem with my FSB setting . I cant pass 440mhz with the quad core . (6x multi just to test my max fsb).

I have the lastest bios 1201 .

update : I need 1.65v to the north bridge and 1.5v to fsb to have 440fsb stable it is normal ?


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 6
FSB Frequency : 440
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-880mhz (1066mhz memory)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : disable
Relax level : 1

CPU Voltage : 1.275
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : auto
CPU GTL Reference : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 6
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enable
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

[Lestat]

i need to drop my vcore down a tad but there is where i am,, and usually am 24/7. the 1.38 in my sig was found to be just a hair unstable. so i run 1.4 all the time
i still dont understand the whole vtt pll crap,,, i just play with the settings until i'm stable.
temps are high because i am encoding some video right now and my PC room is very warm right now. i have the ceiling fan and a floor fan moving the air around lol.
ran can run 4-4-4-12 no problem but there really isnt any point as the benefit from it is extremely minor.

[Lestat]

I have just got my new Q9450 , I dont know why but I have some problem with my FSB setting . I cant pass 440mhz with the quad core . (6x multi just to test my max fsb).

I have the lastest bios 1201 .

update : I need 1.65v to the north bridge and 1.5v to fsb to have 440fsb stable it is normal ?

pll and vtt grasshopper... thats where it lies....
fsbterm also.


you wont get 500 if your looking for that. not with a stock board and stock cooling.. it takes a helluva board and some extra cooling to get 500... incase you were shooting for that i mean.

[hotshot100]

I use the Watercooling on motherboard and CPU . cooling is not the problem
I have update my post with all the setting .

With my E8400 I have run 455x9 very stable with 1.49V NB

[Lestat]

I use the Watercooling on motherboard and CPU . cooling is not the problem
I have update my post with all the setting .

With my E8400 I have run 455x9 very stable with 1.49V NB

well a quad core takes more of everything to achieve the same fsb.

set them to auto and see what happens lol the mobo likes to overvolt everythign when on auto

but dont take what i say as the gospel because i dont have a 45nm quad... and those quads i have seen so far are fsb picky..

[hotshot100]

k thanks I will work on that . right now I flash to the rampage bios


Update with the rampage bios . This bios take less Voltage to run at the same FSB (1.53 vs 1.65)

[Lestat]

k thanks I will work on that . right now I flash to the rampage bios


Update with the rampage bios . This bios take less Voltage to run at the same FSB (1.53 vs 1.65)

wow thats a big drop.

i have seen people reporting this and although i can confirm say my system on a P965 board vs my Maximus, the maximus allows for lower voltages, i find it rather unbelievable that those big drops i see are true. given its the same motherboard using a tricked out bios.. know what i mean?

do you have a multimeter ? can you check directly on the motherboard ?
vcore vdimm nb sb,,

i dont have a picture showing where to check but someone here probably does.

(i mean really thats a huge drop in voltage, seems a bit suspect)

[hotshot100]

I know where to check but I dont have my multimeter with me . I will grab it tomorrow and check .

[jorgito05]

Following are some images of todays 3DMARK06 results. I was getting a lower score of about 11 thousand something now this? all I did is download SP3 for windows XP Is this possible?

Also I have two 2900 XT's running crossfire; Why does it show only one display device? How do I change this?

And last; During the CPU tests the FPS rates where from 1 to 3 FPS, you would think with my QX6850 this whould be better?

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/jorgito05/3DMARK06.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/jorgito05/Displaydevice.jpg

Additional inpoot: Just remembered, yesterday I upgraded to 1102 bios.

[OVERK|LL]

Just upped my RAM to 1113Mhz...... Memtest for an hour or so, no errors. Same voltage! But it won't do 1335, I tried :D