The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Grnfinger]

Zen is running his ram at 2.26 volts (bios) unless he has changed something

[Dostoyevsky77]

My PSU fried a couple days ago. I put in a replacement (Tt 1200w), and now I have a problem:

I can only POST at BIOS defaults. If I change ANYthing in BIOS that requires a cold restart (any OC change), the system will shutdown immediately after restart (it only comes on for a fraction of a second). HOWEVER, if I change anything in BIOS that doesn't require the cold restart (like changing the boot priorities), it's fine.

The only way to POST after it's failed the cold restart is to reset CMOS (at this point, the POSTer still reads, "EN SETUP"). This works 100% of the time and it will even load the OS with no problems at BIOS defaults.

I've re-flashed and even tried flashing back to Maximus BIOS, but I still have this problem. I've swapped out RAM and the video card, which has no difference.

Could it be a PSU problem? Or is my board fried? Kudos to anyone who can help me diagnose this.

This was caused by the processor. Some of you may remember that I got a new board and continued to have the problem. It APPEARED as though all I had to do was hold the power switch for five seconds to restart after a failed BIOS restart. Despite 8 hours stable, other instabilities became evident. I got a new E8400, and that seems to have returned everything to normal.

Just an FYI in case someone else has the same problem and suspects the board.

[aussie-revhead]

I hear ya,memtest returned more than 400 errors for me. Played arround with timings for ages with these sticks and nearly did my head in. Are yours Tracers, I didn't notice.
These are the settings that worked the best for me;
DRAM Frequency: [800]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
CAS# Latency: [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
DRAM Voltage: [2.20v]

Everything else was left to auto.Ran and stressed fine for a while, then they died.I'm still waiting for the returns.Yesterday I was speaking to the guy from Crucial and after a long discussion about the issues these sticks have with the Maximus, he recommended to replace my sticks with 5300's.I told him 'no way'. He basically admited there has been a lot of issues with x38 and Maximus and that it was due to an incompatible bios. After all that he then went on to say that he would replace my red tracers with the black ones, as they have slightly lower lat. It doesnt make any sense to me because on their website specs, they are both the same.
Also just before mine RIPIECES, did a validation http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=349653 (check out slot 3).
Something dodgy going on here:up:

Very odd mate ....

I got this mobo as I thought this would allow me to get the most out of my q6600 and ram , and thats why I got a gx2 over SLi - to suit this mobo and combo . The issues with this are getting too much - the cold boots , ram issues and fsb limitations they impose - I hope they sort out a nice fast bios for us before I sell up . I would like to see a 4870x2 or a 9900GTX on this , unless I sell up first .

:shakes:

[masska]

I wouldnt sell up just yet aussie, I know this board has got some issues but its mainly to certain brands of ram (namely Crucial).Apart from that I think its a great mobo and with the right ram and bios, this thing works really well and very stable.I've had no issues with it except the ram. My Tracers should be comming back in a couple of days.I'll give them another go with the 1201 bios, and see how she goes. If it kills my sticks again, I'll toss the Tracers and get some OCZ or Corsair.At least I know there is no issues with these and lots of guys & gals are getting very decent numbers.

[aussie-revhead]

Yeah I would rather hold onto this mobo and sort it right out in time for new vid cards release.

:up:

[trt740]

For RAM in sig @ 2.24v (5:6 @ 500x8) (I cant get strap 266 to hold stable for 1204 at my 480x8)

DRAM Frequency: [DDR2-1201]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
Primary Info : 5-5-5-18-3-50-7-4
CAS# Latancy: [5]
RAS# to CAS# Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [18]
RAS# to RAS# Delay: [Auto] = 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: [50] = 50
Write Recovery time: [7] = 7
Read to Precharge Time: [4] = 4

Secondary Info : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay(S/D): [Auto] = 8
Write to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 3
Write to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 5
REad to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Read to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 6
Write to write Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Write to Write delay(D): [Auto] = 6
DRAM Static Read Control: [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Moderate]
Transaction Booster: [Disabled]
Relax Level [0]

Anybody have any luck with the 1200MHz divider when 480FSB (the 266 strap)? I cant get it stable. What area of loosening might halp? 5:6 on 333 strap is fine.

Your ram must be slightly better than mine won't boot higher than 1192 and whats crazy is it hates the 8x multi

[aicjofs]

I know this board has got some issues but its mainly to certain brands of ram (namely Crucial).

Everyone keeps saying this. Exactly what sticks are you guys talking about?(I'm not saying it's NOT an issue, just wanting to know what sticks in particular) The single sided 8 chip PC8500 are terrible for sure, but that's on any board. I just popped a pair of double sided Ballistix PC8500's batch 16fd5 in and they run great at 1300DDR(650Mhz), I benched with them all night and I didn't even start tightening up timings. I did have to manually adjust the skew.

http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/everest.jpg

What does bug me is that I just can't get 45nm CPU stable at 450MHZ FSB, 440-450 seems to be about the max I can get and even that is hardly stable. So I am forced to drop way down to 430 range for stability(something that will Prime for at least 8 hours)

http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/superpi.jpg

[ZenEffect]

Zen is running his ram at 2.26 volts (bios) unless he has changed something

2.26 bios 2.35 real (max rated voltage for my ram) :up:

[chawks2]

I just popped a pair of double sided Ballistix PC8500's batch 16fd5 in and they run great at 1300DDR(650Mhz), I benched with them all night and I didn't even start tightening up timings. I did have to manually adjust the skew.


WOW Excellent. I just wished you posted this 1-2 days earlier and I would have had these cherry picked sticks in my apt.

[jVIDIA]

2.26 bios 2.35 real (max rated voltage for my ram) :up:

And the other voltages ? :D

:up:

[aicjofs]

I just wished you posted this 1-2 days earlier and I would have had these cherry picked sticks in my apt.

Heh...sorry my Ballistix only come out to play on special benching occasions...lol. They stay in a drawer until bench time. I have 4 of the 16fd5's and I can't sell them to anyone(for a reasonable price anyway) because no one wants to buy them after all the bad publicity(and rightfully so, way too many sticks of the PC8500 died around the world)

[MurderCityDevil]

ok, i'm stuck, hopefully some of you guys can point me in the right direction. I started doing a serious attempt at methodically overclocking my q6600 g0 to 3.8. I got my first glimpse of stability at 5 hours prime95 doing small fft's. I'm running the rampage 0308 bios. Here's my last stable settings (they're not complete, but you get the general idea)

FSB - 423
Multiplier - 9
Strap - Auto
Memory clock - 846, timings on auto (5-5-5-15)
Clock twister - lighter
no other settings fiddled with, except loadline callibration on to help vdroop and both spread spectrums disabled.

cpu voltage - 1.50625
Nb - 1.53
FSBT - 1.52
DRAM - 2.01
cpuPLL - 1.62

^^ these are the values set in bios, btw.

So I got 5 hours with those settings before a BSOD. I thought I would up the FSBT to 1.54, so I did, and then only got 2 hours before a crash. I don't know what is keeping me back. Can someone please help me out? I know I can be stable at 3.8, i just don't remember my old "sweet spot" settings.

edit: my memory is 2x1gb sticks of crucial ballistix tracers 8500. i don't think any of my other components come into play here.

[ZenEffect]

And the other voltages ? :D

:up:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [6]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.56875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.62
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.26
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.56
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[jVIDIA]

:up:

[Nuckin_Futs]

Zen is running his ram at 2.26 volts (bios) unless he has changed something
Wow!!! I just need to point out to those complaining of Crucials going bad too soon on any mobo is often this, set too high BIOS vdimm, knowing this mobo overvolts, and not cooling propperly. and since most are just stressing the rig 24/7 till it dies, no wonder. If thats what you like, cool. Racers do it, build an engine for 1 race and do it again next week. If you can afford it, go for it, just for the scores. I'm speaking mainly of the Crucials, but 3.5v is way much for any D9 or RAM for that matter w/o good cooling.


Everyone keeps saying this. Exactly what sticks are you guys talking about?(I'm not saying it's NOT an issue, just wanting to know what sticks in particular) The single sided 8 chip PC8500 are terrible for sure, but that's on any board. I just popped a pair of double sided Ballistix PC8500's batch 16fd5 in and they run great at 1300DDR(650Mhz), I benched with them all night and I didn't even start tightening up timings. I did have to manually adjust the skew.

What does bug me is that I just can't get 45nm CPU stable at 450MHZ FSB, 440-450 seems to be about the max I can get and even that is hardly stable. So I am forced to drop way down to 430 range for stability(something that will Prime for at least 8 hours)
Where do you read the batch # (sticker or PCB, or iC's), cause I got 2 good sets too, and just wanna note for the record. Do you know what chip IC #s yours has? I do know mine are the early double sided 16 ic black PCB. I will state that the stock aluminum cooling is poor for what they need. I replaced w/ ThermalRight HR-07 quickly, since the aluminum models were barely making contact with half the ic's. Again, as I stated way back, this was a big issue, but easily solved. I too can hit 1300MHz but 1266 is more steady for heat and vdimm. Just cool to know they can. I never needed more then 2.28v w/ trd 60 to 1266MHz. 2.22v @ 1153MHz trd 50.

[Grnfinger]

Wow!!! I just need to point out to those complaining of Crucials going bad too soon on any mobo is often this, set too high BIOS vdimm, knowing this mobo overvolts, and not cooling propperly. and since most are just stressing the rig 24/7 till it dies, no wonder. If thats what you like, cool. Racers do it, build an engine for 1 race and do it again next week. If you can afford it, go for it, just for the scores. I'm speaking mainly of the Crucials, but 3.5v is way much for any D9 or RAM for that matter w/o good cooling.


Many Crucial ram kits are dying with NO overclock even running below stock volts. The web is full of these reports. I do agree with you that 2.26 bios 3.5 actual is way to high for 24/7 use for a few hundred points in Everest. In a real world enviroment you could not tell personally from 1200 ram to 1080 ram, even 900 ram running 4-4-4-12 would be very close.
However this is EXTREME Systems not Mediocre Systems

[eternaljammer]

Yes, the crucial single sides dimms are just plain crap. They are very often appearing doa or crapping out after normal use(no ocing). It is a pretty sad day when you say crucial and as an enthusiast say stay way. I really can't wait until they start producing better dimms.

[masska]

Wow!!! I just need to point out to those complaining of Crucials going bad too soon on any mobo is often this, set too high BIOS vdimm, knowing this mobo overvolts, and not cooling propperly. and since most are just stressing the rig 24/7 till it dies, no wonder. If thats what you like, cool. Racers do it, build an engine for 1 race and do it again next week. If you can afford it, go for it, just for the scores. I'm speaking mainly of the Crucials, but 3.5v is way much for any D9 or RAM for that matter w/o good cooling.


Where do you read the batch # (sticker or PCB, or iC's), cause I got 2 good sets too, and just wanna note for the record. Do you know what chip IC #s yours has? I do know mine are the early double sided 16 ic black PCB. I will state that the stock aluminum cooling is poor for what they need. I replaced w/ ThermalRight HR-07 quickly, since the aluminum models were barely making contact with half the ic's. Again, as I stated way back, this was a big issue, but easily solved. I too can hit 1300MHz but 1266 is more steady for heat and vdimm. Just cool to know they can. I never needed more then 2.28v w/ trd 60 to 1266MHz. 2.22v @ 1153MHz trd 50.

I dont know about the others but my Tracers were at stock when they died.I never had the chance to OC them.There's too many people having issues with these OC'd or not to take notice. I was speaking to one of the techs at Crucial yesterday and he admitted they've had heaps of RMA's on the x38 and Maximus, now thats not to say they are all bad, maybe its a bad batch or simply a bios issue like he said. I'm expecting my returns anyday and I'll have another go with them.The last thing I want to do is get rid of them (love those leds:yepp:) but if they give me problems again with this new bios, I will toss them:up:

[MurderCityDevil]

can anyone help me with my 3.8 overclock? I posted my settings up a few posts ago, was wondering if some of the regular posters in this thread could give a few tips.

[Grendel66]

I remember somebody asking of, or spaking of USB issues on certain BETA BIOS. I am experiencing issues with USB ports off one of the hubs from mobo internal on a duplex cable and it is so far on only one of the 2 (ie the top is fine well the bottom drops in and out through the day). I only started since testing on BETA v1004, and I noticed when using iPod docked while playing MP3's it continuously droped out and back in in auto play throught the day and I moved it to 2nd of the 2 ports on case hub to mobo and it is fine. I will test for another set of onvboard headers to confirm, but it may be a bad connection or wire. It is on my 2nd case, Antec P-160 w of almost 5yrs old.
Sorry for the late resonse, haven't been online for a few days.. I have the exact same problem w/ a USB 1.1 HID device I'm developing, it would drop the connection randomly once or twice over an evening. Moved it to the 2nd case port and it worked ever since. BIOS 1004, haven't tried 1201 yet. Not using S3.

[Zucker2k]

can anyone help me with my 3.8 overclock? I posted my settings up a few posts ago, was wondering if some of the regular posters in this thread could give a few tips.

These are my settings for 3.825Ghz and 8GB on Max Formula running with RF bios 0401 (highly recommended):

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066 (4:5) or you can sett to DDR2 850 (for 1:1)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto (for 52, can't be set manually in bios)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [6]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.5250
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 (had it at 1.66 at one time, I guess it had no effect)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65 ( a little high because I'm running Oc'ed 8GBs at 1066.
DRAM Voltage : 2.1v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.38
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Hope this helps. :up:

[ghost_recon88]

1.52 seems pretty high for a E8400 @ 3.8GHz isn't it? My E3110 could do 4GHz with 1.3. Does the X38 chipset require more voltage clock-for-clock compared to say the P35 or P965?

[MurderCityDevil]

I was wondering if that voltage sounds about right for my q6600 g0. The temps are awfully high, but I don't know if I'll be stable yet.

[Leeghoofd]

Think he's referring to Q6600 voltage settings Ghost Recon, hasn't updated his sig ( only 2gb ram there too)

[aussie-revhead]

hmmm I think I have my ram issues greatly improved now , passed memtest at 1081 where it wouldnt pass at 450 before , but its still unstable , I just want to bench at 4ghz (or 4.1 lol)

:up:

[Zucker2k]

I was wondering if that voltage sounds about right for my q6600 g0. The temps are awfully high, but I don't know if I'll be stable yet. I don't have to tell you this, but feel free to set according to your cpu's requirements.


hmmm I think I have my ram issues greatly improved now , passed memtest at 1081 where it wouldnt pass at 450 before , but its still unstable , I just want to bench at 4ghz (or 4.1 lol)

:up: Could you post your settings here for your current overclock?


1.52 seems pretty high for a E8400 @ 3.8GHz isn't it? My E3110 could do 4GHz with 1.3. Does the X38 chipset require more voltage clock-for-clock compared to say the P35 or P965?

Leeghoofd is right; the settings above are for a quad, which even at 1.52v (CPU-Z), hardly tops 65C when priming small ffts.

Check out what my E8400 needs for 4Ghz in the screenshot, :cool:

[Leeghoofd]

hmmm I think I have my ram issues greatly improved now , passed memtest at 1081 where it wouldnt pass at 450 before , but its still unstable , I just want to bench at 4ghz (or 4.1 lol)

:up:

Hoep ya clocking with only 2 dimms then Aussie... way easier to get there... but I know you are a tough bloke and like it the hard way

[aussie-revhead]

hahaha yeah its two sticks for now , I will get settings up shortly .

:up:


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Crazy (lol- of course)
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : auto
DRAM Timing Control: auto
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto

CPU Voltage : 1.59375 (I tried up to 1.65)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.70 (actual was 1.84 but still bsod so I reduced it)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.3 (actual 2.416)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.15
Loadline Calibration : auto
CPU GTL Reference : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.65

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : auto

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : auto
CPU TM Function : auto
Vanderpool Technology : auto
Execute Disable Bit : auto
Max CPUID Value Limit : auto


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled <--- ? its enabled.

I tried more vcore up to 1.65 and it didnt make any different (bsod as soon as load hits). I tried spectrums disabled, I tried setting both GTL manually to max , didnt help. I enabled transaction booster at 3 and got no boot , put it back to auto and booted again.

I tried manually setting multi low and fsb to 500 and got zillions of memtest errors in test 7 , so I set everything to stock and bumped mem speed only to 1066 and it passed. There is also a mem setting for 1200 but with ** on it so I tried all stock with 1200 mem speed and it only got 5 errors in two passes in test 4 , thats with no tweaking and everything on auto so Im sure I could get that stable if need be , but cpu isnt stable anyway .

Any help would be great.

[Zucker2k]

Aussie-Revhead, try this:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-890
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 4
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 2
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 20
Write Recovery Time : 3
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 7
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto

CPU Voltage : 1.625v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.66
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65 (bios set, you can reduce later)
DRAM Voltage : 2.3 (actual 2.416) You may need to reduce this a little bit
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54
South Bridge Voltage : 1.100
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : x63
North Bridge GTL Reference : x67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.65

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : auto
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


I highly recommend you do the rampage mod to 0401. That is where I found the most stability.

[aussie-revhead]

I will try those , thanks mate , but last time I tried pcie at anything above 100 I get a POST hang at VGA BIOS stage , looks like my vid card doesnt like it . I benched at 9x443 but it was not stable at all , just enough to bench .

:up:

[Zucker2k]

I will try those , thanks mate , but last time I tried pcie at anything above 100 I get a POST hang at VGA BIOS stage , looks like my vid card doesnt like it . I benched at 9x443 but it was not stable at all , just enough to bench .

:up:

You can use the same settings for 9x450, though you may need to adjust voltages accordingly. Goodluck.

[aussie-revhead]

Aussie-Revhead, try this:


I highly recommend you do the rampage mod to 0401. That is where I found the most stability.

Is there a safe easy way to do this ?

:up:

[ChaosAD]

Many of you seem to run Q6600 at 1.50+v in bios and NBV at 1.6+. I need cpuv 1.5 which is 1.48v in everest and nbv 1.55 which is 1.58v to run my Q6600 @ 9x425. Although i run games, internet etc stable, prime is not stable at all and sadly i seem to need more than 1.5v real for cpuv. What i would like to ask is how safe is it to run a quad at 1.50+ real and nb at 1.60+ real for 24/7 use.

[aicjofs]

Where do you read the batch # (sticker or PCB, or iC's), cause I got 2 good sets too, and just wanna note for the record. Do you know what chip IC #s yours has? I do know mine are the early double sided 16 ic black PCB. I will state that the stock aluminum cooling is poor for what they need. I replaced w/ ThermalRight HR-07 quickly, since the aluminum models were barely making contact with half the ic's. Again, as I stated way back, this was a big issue, but easily solved. I too can hit 1300MHz but 1266 is more steady for heat and vdimm. Just cool to know they can. I never needed more then 2.28v w/ trd 60 to 1266MHz. 2.22v @ 1153MHz trd 50.

Well batch is somewhat misleading since on the stickers there is a batch number, but most people here talk about a batch using:

http://www.crucial.com/support/identify_parts.aspx

Look at the bottom picture, last digits after period...in the example it's 16fd3. 16 is 16 chips(double sided), 8 for single sided.

I have no idea what IC these are, probably D9GMH, but since I thought they stopped making it awhile ago, maybe not. To be honest I can never keep the memory sorted for the micron D9's...GMH, GKX, HNL, etc, etc. I think you can measure the size of the chip to tell the IC... I'm sure the answer is here somewhere.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=143009&highlight=D9GMH&page=28

[aussie-revhead]

General consensus is 10% above vid .

:up:

[aicjofs]

Many of you seem to run Q6600 at 1.50+v in bios and NBV at 1.6+. I need cpuv 1.5 which is 1.48v in everest and nbv 1.55 which is 1.58v to run my Q6600 @ 9x425. Although i run games, internet etc stable, prime is not stable at all and sadly i seem to need more than 1.5v real for cpuv. What i would like to ask is how safe is it to run a quad at 1.50+ real and nb at 1.60+ real for 24/7 use.

For 24/7 I usually subscribe to the theory of disminishing returns. If you need around .1 to .075 more volts to eek out 100 more Mhz it's just not worth more volts and more heat on a 24/7 machine.

That said, your water cooling looks to be adequate, I would say around 1.55 to 1.57 24/7 if you have reasonable temperatures. But that's only my opinion...in fact personally I stay at 1.5V on 24/7(benching is an ENTIRELY different story though hehe :D)

I see people running the chipset at 1.65v all the time, from the Intel data sheet that's way over the "absolute max" voltage.(I have read that 1.9V is around the absolute max people have pumped through it with elaborate cooling) I'd top out at 1.65v for it for 24/7, question is...is it really that the north bridge needs that much voltage for 9x425 or do you need a tweak somewhere else. High voltage on the north bridge has a larger role in multiplier, memory stabilty with more modules, higher speeds or tighter timings. I don't think you need more northbridge V then what you have judging by your sig unless you are pulling in some really tight timings on the RAM(Trd or something), I think your instabilty might be elsewhere.

[ChaosAD]

For 24/7 I usually subscribe to the theory of disminishing returns. If you need around .1 to .075 more volts to eek out 100 more Mhz it's just not worth more volts and more heat on a 24/7 machine.

That said, your water cooling looks to be adequate, I would say around 1.55 to 1.57 24/7 if you have reasonable temperatures. But that's only my opinion...in fact personally I stay at 1.5V on 24/7(benching is an ENTIRELY different story though hehe :D)

I see people running the chipset at 1.65v all the time, from the Intel data sheet that's way over the "absolute max" voltage.(I have read that 1.9V is around the absolute max people have pumped through it with elaborate cooling) I'd top out at 1.65v for it for 24/7, question is...is it really that the north bridge needs that much voltage for 9x425 or do you need a tweak somewhere else. High voltage on the north bridge has a larger role in multiplier, memory stabilty with more modules, higher speeds or tighter timings. I don't think you need more northbridge V then what you have judging by your sig unless you are pulling in some really tight timings on the RAM(Trd or something), I think your instabilty might be elsewhere.

I guess my coolong is ok. Priming at 9x425 @ 1.48v real, CoreTemp report max 53C while it idles around 33C for the hottest core. So maybe maxing cpuv at 1.5v real is ok for 24/7.

Af far as the NBv i ll try to post my full bios setting because what u see in my sig is the setup for 3.6Ghz not for 3.825 that i refer to. :rolleyes:

[ChaosAD]

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [6]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.48 (Real, bios 1.50)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 (Reads 1.58 real)
DRAM Voltage : 1.98 (2.10 Real)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44 (Bios)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


These are the settings i m trying for the moment. Cpu idle @ 33C / load @ 53C. NB idle @ 38C / load @ 43C. Whatever recommendations are welcomed :)

[aicjofs]

2 ways to approach this.

1. Slow the RAM down, so you can figure out CPU and NB voltage for just 9x425. Then you'll have CPU volts, once you add RAM back to full speed you can figure what extra voltage might be need for NB.

or

2.) I'd give Zen's settings(linked below) a try from "DRAM timing control" on down. Change everything to his except maybe leave your NB voltage and DRAM voltage alone. Then put your CPU voltage wherever it needs to be and test stability. Then work backwards lowering voltages until stabilty is lost.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2971983&postcount=5016

Try those settings ^^^^

[Nuckin_Futs]

hahaha yeah its two sticks for now , I will get settings up shortly .

:up:

I tried more vcore up to 1.65 and it didnt make any different (bsod as soon as load hits). I tried spectrums disabled, I tried setting both GTL manually to max , didnt help. I enabled transaction booster at 3 and got no boot , put it back to auto and booted again.

I tried manually setting multi low and fsb to 500 and got zillions of memtest errors in test 7 , so I set everything to stock and bumped mem speed only to 1066 and it passed. There is also a mem setting for 1200 but with ** on it so I tried all stock with 1200 mem speed and it only got 5 errors in two passes in test 4 , thats with no tweaking and everything on auto so Im sure I could get that stable if need be , but cpu isnt stable anyway .

Any help would be great.

Relax that RAM and back off the performance features for now untill you know your CPU mobo combo can do 500x7. It more then likely will, but too many peepz jump right into cranking the RAM to the gills w/ little room to breath. This is number one reason for many BSOD on high FSB attemps. If anything, use RAM settings to furtther relax to keep it out of the math for now. For 500FSB I need Static Read Control Enabled, but I'd try both. Also try to up the PCE to around 110~115 and SB voltages up a tad to help keep stable Usually 1.10v & 1.6v respectively.

[Sources]

Guys Im running the set up in my sig, what should my RAM be set at for 400 FSB X 9 400 strap for the below settings for best performance.

DRAM Static Read Control: ?
Ai Clock Twister : ?
Transaction Booster : ?

Common Performance Level ?

[Grnfinger]

Guys Im running the set up in my sig, what should my RAM be set at for 400 FSB X 9 400 strap for the below settings for best performance.

DRAM Static Read Control: ?
Ai Clock Twister : ?
Transaction Booster : ?

Common Performance Level ?

I would set this

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [6] 7 if your ram cant handle 6
If your running 1:1 you will find 4-4-4-12 will produce better bandwidth

[Sources]

I would set this

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [6] 7 if your ram cant handle 6
If your running 1:1 you will find 4-4-4-12 will produce better bandwidth

should I run 1:1 at 4-4-4-12 800mhz or go to 5-5-5-15 1066mhz at 16:12

[MurderCityDevil]

i was just wondering if you guys know what an instant bsod at load is indicative of. I tried to run 445x9 for 4.0ghz and no matter what voltages i try it gives an instant bsod as soon as I run prime. Any thoughts?

[Grnfinger]

should I run 1:1 at 4-4-4-12 800mhz or go to 5-5-5-15 1066mhz at 16:12

Test both and see, I would suspect that at 1:1 with tight timing it will perform about on par with 1066 so it will be more of a preference.


i was just wondering if you guys know what an instant bsod at load is indicative of. I tried to run 445x9 for 4.0ghz and no matter what voltages i try it gives an instant bsod as soon as I run prime. Any thoughts?

Most likely vcore, juice it up a notch or 2
for a stable 4.0 my quad needs
CPU Voltage : 1.55
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[HellasVagabond]

Guys since i cant seem to find a definite answer IS the 1201 Beta Bios better than the 1004 Beta Bios ? Personnal opinions ?

[kup]

Is there a safe easy way to do this ?

:up:

First post, massive Maximus/P5E to Rampage guide! :cool:

[Ric2L]

Lookin for help, currently @ 3.2GHz would like to go to 3.6Ghz maybe 4.0, my current set up is as follows

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
FSB Frequency : 360
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate :
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 9

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 5
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) :4
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 4
Write to Write Delay (S) : 6
Write to Write Delay (D) : DRAM Static Read Control:disabled
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster :disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.2625
CPU PLL Voltage : auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25
DRAM Voltage : 1.90
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage :
Loadline Calibration :
CPU GTL Reference :
North Bridge GTL Reference :
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage :
SB 1.5V Voltage :

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled

when ever i bump up to 400 FSB w/9x, I cant seem to find stable voltage for cpu & N/B even if I start in auto and work back froim there, There must be something I'm missing, just not sure where to look. I if anyone has a 3.6Ghz setup on air please let me know your settings so I have a better a starting point

I will really appreciate it
thanks

[ZenEffect]

Lookin for help, currently @ 3.2GHz would like to go to 3.6Ghz maybe 4.0, my current set up is as follows

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
FSB Frequency : 360
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066


when ever i bump up to 400 FSB w/9x, I cant seem to find stable voltage for cpu & N/B even if I start in auto and work back froim there, There must be something I'm missing, just not sure where to look. I if anyone has a 3.6Ghz setup on air please let me know your settings so I have a better a starting point

I will really appreciate it
thanks

my guess would be the 266 strap is what is causing instabilities. use the 333 or just put it on auto and choose the desired ram frequency for 400fsb.:cool:

[XtremeTiramisu]

Try These:



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency:
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) :auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : DRAM Static Read Control:disabled
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster :disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.4v and onwards
CPU PLL Voltage : auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v and onwards
DRAM Voltage : 1.90 depends on your ram. mobo overvolts by 0.8v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5v

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled



Good luck,
XT

[Nuckin_Futs]

should I run 1:1 at 4-4-4-12 800mhz or go to 5-5-5-15 1066mhz at 16:12For real world performance, the 1:1 w/ @ cl4 is a bit better then cl5 at only 1066, now if @ 1200 @ cl5 as in 5-5-5-18, then you'll see big difference in acores as wel as performance. If at 400FSB airm for 1200 (3:2) or close to it. You will need 2.24v for over 1175MHz if relaxing trd to 50~55.


i was just wondering if you guys know what an instant bsod at load is indicative of. I tried to run 445x9 for 4.0ghz and no matter what voltages i try it gives an instant bsod as soon as I run prime. Any thoughts?
My 1st guess will be too much stressing on DRAM performance boosting and tigh timings. 2md is as the guys above mentioned, except if he was reffering to actual voltages, some more then needed, and a few not enough.

Try.. more vcore, few Q6600's need up to 1.58~1.6v, PLL: of at least 1.632v but up to 1.712, FSBT of 1.42v~ but as much as 1.48v (1.504v on the 8x), NB shouldnt need more then 1.504 at such a mild FSB of only 400, but6 if on a divider. SB: 1.05~1.075v, SB_1.5: 1.5~1.55v and PCIE to 110 for starters.

This is an average starting point. Just remeber to keep RAM out of it as much as possable till you know it's stable. You're just gonna end up crashing it so often and corrupt your OS install.

Just take it one step at a time. All voltages as actual reported.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Right, consecutive BSOD due to Prime/OCCT stress tests may corrupt your OS.
That's why I'm using my 2nd comp to type this msg while my primary PC is doing Prime Blend under safe mode environment. ;)

[Nuckin_Futs]

Right, consecutive BSOD due to Prime/OCCT stress tests may corrupt your OS.
That's why I'm using my 2nd comp to type this msg while my primary PC is doing Prime Blend under safe mode environment. ;)
This is even trickier if on RAID 0 since we have no 2nd SATA controller to boot w/ to get into Intel RAID set to service. Well more easier if only using SATA RAID 1 or RAID Ready in AHCI mode cause you do need to have it enabled but can boot to other SATA controller to add iostar driver and repair. I still use an old Promice TX2 for that and actas my eSATA when not needed. I also found that asside from SATA drivers, the chipset INF and GPU get out of wack too and is best to uninstall and reinstall them each in order of RAID, INF, and GPU. then back up reg or at least set system restore and do a few clean restarts at stable profile. Also, uppon 1st BSOD or crash of any, restart and allow to enter safe mode to make sure it can load basic drivers before loading Windos nromal mode. Not always 100&#37; but sure limits the corruption and hard crashing, especially due to RAM tweaking more then anything else.

Hope this helps!

[Ric2L]

Try These:



Good luck,
XT

Thank You, started with your suggested settings, ran prime for 2 hrs, everything good. bumped vcore & n/b volt down two notches, so far so good, will let prime overnight, maybe lower a little more if still stable.

would be nice to get ram back to 1066 or better, with 333 strap only have option of 960 or 1280, running at 960 now, 1280 is to much for my ram I think, will have to play with it after I'm sure that I'm stable at lowest possible voltages

[Nuckin_Futs]

Calling all X2 dual GPU video card and Maxiums overclockers!

Anybody get this card working smoothly with a PCIE OC of 115~120MHz w/o any OC to GPU core? I wanna' get a new ATI and interested in the X2 but not willing to back off my OC for it so it's this or the single HD3870, of min 512 GDDR4 w/ HDMI out w/ HD audio to my external DTS reciever.

I'm only askinf because I heard a few claiming issues with the x2 on high PCIE overclocks, not sure if it was w/ the nVidia or ATI more so. Please share your results?

[cadaveca]

I run 115mhz 24/7 without issue...high chipset voltages causes video issues tho.

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :10
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 115
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) :5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : disabled
Level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.3
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35
DRAM Voltage : 1.96
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.2
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5v





4x 1gb Micron 8FE5, BIOS 1201

[Nuckin_Futs]

For the 2x 1g kit of OCZ FLEX series, what does the FLEX II bring to the table for us overclockers over the older set? I understand the trd is spd programmed to 50 even if BIOS has no setting for it 9ie: our MF stock official BIOS). But if XLC is used with beta can they match performance.

What can the FLEX II in 2x 2g offer over the other big names in the PC2-8500 and up speds?

Who knows of the app used to flash RAM ic's to fix certain sub timings as read by BIOS in auto, ie: the more relaxed trd of 50 for BIOS that only allow 42? I saw it done on SODIMM so why not descktop?

[jVIDIA]

Anyone knows what is the maximum safe temp for the x38/x48 ?

[aussie-revhead]

Do you gain much by raising pcie freq ? I tried a couple of times but anything above 100 and I get POST hang at VGA BIOS detection , I guess my gx2 doesnt like it , but if there is a gain to be had then I will try some more incremental jumps .

:up:

[jVIDIA]

It depends .... for me with a low PL if I don't raise the PCI-e frequency my system doesn't boot at all.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Do you gain much by raising pcie freq ? I tried a couple of times but anything above 100 and I get POST hang at VGA BIOS detection , I guess my gx2 doesnt like it , but if there is a gain to be had then I will try some more incremental jumps .

:up:YES, for my height of OC and FSB. If I dont at least up it to 110MHz while at 480~500, certain devices get buggy on me such as USB, and sometime LAN. I am not doing it for GPU purposes, just for high FSB. I can go as low as 105 at 480 but on BETA v1004, some USB ports drop outor they dont resume on time w/ others from S3/S4 (when S3 did work on other BIOS). Even LAN might not awake. I know weird.

[aussie-revhead]

Aussie-Revhead, try this:

... snip ...


I highly recommend you do the rampage mod to 0401. That is where I found the most stability.

Thanks Zucker , I tried that and its the first time I have seen it restart from bios without cold boot but it rebooted as soon as prime load set in . Its very hot too , two cores up over 70 degrees ... so I guess that needs more work. I tried again with a few different things and still reboots when load hits , so I will keep fiddling .


First post, massive Maximus/P5E to Rampage guide!

Got it bro , might give it a go shortly I reckon.

:up:


Relax that RAM and back off the performance features for now untill you know your CPU mobo combo can do 500x7. It more then likely will, but too many peepz jump right into cranking the RAM to the gills w/ little room to breath. This is number one reason for many BSOD on high FSB attemps. If anything, use RAM settings to furtther relax to keep it out of the math for now. For 500FSB I need Static Read Control Enabled, but I'd try both. Also try to up the PCE to around 110~115 and SB voltages up a tad to help keep stable Usually 1.10v & 1.6v respectively.

Yeah mate I do 95&#37; of my benching at 1:1 , I was only testing to see if the ram was holding me back in that case. Im trying everything to get this stable at 4ghz , being a L737B it should be capable .

I just set my bios to Zuckers settings , rebooted a few times and lost the lot .... sux when you dont remember everything , lucky though I have a kvm so I can just keep flipping back and forth to copy settings ...

:clap:

[aussie-revhead]

Also , I was priming last night as I wanted a good basic stable clock to run it when not benching . It holds prime stable at 8x400 with 1.3v so I tried with 1.25v as its got a low VID and should be able to go lower , but one core failed in an hour while the others were still going the next morning , what causes this ? and how do I compensate ? If only I could add juice to just one core ....

:rolleyes:

Another question , should I do the droop mod ? Many of my voltages over volt already , will this only affect vcore ?

.

[Renegade5399]

Well what you can try to do is adjust the CPU GTL to 63-67% and see if that helps.

[aussie-revhead]

I tried auto amd max but same end result . I just tried Ai clock twister set to strong and transaction booster disabled and instead of rebooting in prime the cores just failed one by one , so its an improvement though still a long way off but it wouldnt reboot with POST stuck at dram det so I lost the lot again ....

This mobo is certainly a challenge .

:shakes:

[aussie-revhead]

OK my Maximus Formula is now a Rampage Formula :clap:

Im using 0401 bios and am back to testing 3200 again , I might just get that stable first (with low volts).

:up:

[chawks2]

Well what you can try to do is adjust the CPU GTL to 63-67% and see if that helps.

The amount of excellent information in this thread is astounding. Looking forward to playing around with skew.

In my experience 63 is stable for 45nm. 67 is stable for 65nm. Personally, I have found raising the bandwidth of the PCIe to 101-104 has a direct effect on stability of OC, 110 refuses to work for me period (maybe my 3870??).

I shall post my settings soon for 2G TX's & 8G G.Skill. Stay tuned. :up:

[Millyons]

Hi Guys, well just got the P5E, kinda long thread to go through so i got couple questions

1. Whats the benefit of flashing it to MF or Rampage? Is htere Bios settings or something that P5E doesnt have?
2. If i dont mod it to MF whats the best P5E bios?
3. I asked this in the modding section but noone answered, what is the finnal targer resistance needed for a quad on the vDroop mod?

thanks

[Dostoyevsky77]

1. Whats the benefit of flashing it to MF or Rampage? Is htere Bios settings or something that P5E doesnt have?
2. If i dont mod it to MF whats the best P5E bios?
3. I asked this in the modding section but noone answered, what is the finnal targer resistance needed for a quad on the vDroop mod?



1. The most important difference between the two is tRD or Performance Level. This is implicitly controlled in the MF BIOS through the transaction booster, but the RF not only gives direct control over this, but can allow phase "pull-ins", which basically allow you to run different RAM/FSB phases at the nominated performance level minus one. Using this added feature, many of us are able to run our RAM near DDR3 SPEEDS (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture-21.jpg). A very in-depth article explains the brute power of this additional flexibility. It begins on this page: AnandTech Article (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=4). It is recommended reading even if you don't flash Rampage because it really goes into fabulous detail about NB, RAM, and FSB. Everything you wanted to know but were afraid to ask, basically.

2. There's a good thread about the P5E HERE (http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/269840-asus-p5e-x38-thread.html). It has BIOS information.

3. I'm not following this question, sorry.

[zlojack]

Calling all X2 dual GPU video card and Maxiums overclockers!

Anybody get this card working smoothly with a PCIE OC of 115~120MHz w/o any OC to GPU core? I wanna' get a new ATI and interested in the X2 but not willing to back off my OC for it so it's this or the single HD3870, of min 512 GDDR4 w/ HDMI out w/ HD audio to my external DTS reciever.

I'm only askinf because I heard a few claiming issues with the x2 on high PCIE overclocks, not sure if it was w/ the nVidia or ATI more so. Please share your results?

I've had no issues at 110 on mine.

[aussie-revhead]

Thanks dostroyevsky Im going to read that article , it might help me to understand some of the multitude of bios options in my MF/RF.

[jVIDIA]

So 0308 really is better than 0401 ? Cant find a link to 0308 bios .... can someone point me to it ? ;)

[aicjofs]

3. I asked this in the modding section but noone answered,what is the finnal targer resistance needed for a quad on the vDroop mod?

thanks


3. I'm not following this question, sorry.

I believe he is asking if you pencil mod for Vdroop, what is the measured resistance with a multimeter across the resistor....I wondered this myself when I read the first post...I find load line calibration enabled adequate myself, but when you do pencil mods it's nice to know target resistance so you don't over do it.

[zlojack]

1. The most important difference between the two is tRD or Performance Level. This is implicitly controlled in the MF BIOS through the transaction booster, but the RF not only gives direct control over this, but can allow phase "pull-ins", which basically allow you to run different RAM/FSB phases at the nominated performance level minus one. Using this added feature, many of us are able to run our RAM near DDR3 SPEEDS (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture-21.jpg). A very in-depth article explains the brute power of this additional flexibility. It begins on this page: AnandTech Article (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=4). It is recommended reading even if you don't flash Rampage because it really goes into fabulous detail about NB, RAM, and FSB. Everything you wanted to know but were afraid to ask, basically.

2. There's a good thread about the P5E HERE (http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/269840-asus-p5e-x38-thread.html). It has BIOS information.

3. I'm not following this question, sorry.
Dostoyevsky, that bandwidth is sick!

Is that on 24/7 settings?

What PL and what Pull-Ins are you using for that?

[aicjofs]

So 0308 really is better than 0401 ? Cant find a link to 0308 bios .... can someone point me to it ? ;)

First post in this thread. Under Rampage conversion. Step 3 has all of the BIOS.

I find 0401 and 0308 equally good from overclocking standpoint. Not sure about S3 as I don't use it, but that is something some members keep looking for, no dea if 0401 did anything for it.

[zlojack]

I still see no compelling reason to update from 0308 to 0401.

[Millyons]

1. The most important difference between the two is tRD or Performance Level. This is implicitly controlled in the MF BIOS through the transaction booster, but the RF not only gives direct control over this, but can allow phase "pull-ins", which basically allow you to run different RAM/FSB phases at the nominated performance level minus one. Using this added feature, many of us are able to run our RAM near DDR3 SPEEDS (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture-21.jpg). A very in-depth article explains the brute power of this additional flexibility. It begins on this page: AnandTech Article (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=4). It is recommended reading even if you don't flash Rampage because it really goes into fabulous detail about NB, RAM, and FSB. Everything you wanted to know but were afraid to ask, basically.

2. There's a good thread about the P5E HERE (http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/269840-asus-p5e-x38-thread.html). It has BIOS information.

3. I'm not following this question, sorry.

Thanks ill check out the links, i have been out of the loop for a while, even got the x38 cause of the rocketraid 3520 and 4 wd640gb not cause crossfire


I believe he is asking if you pencil mod for Vdroop, what is the measured resistance with a multimeter across the resistor....I wondered this myself when I read the first post...I find load line calibration enabled adequate myself, but when you do pencil mods it's nice to know target resistance so you don't over do it.

Yap, exacly what im asking, i would like to know the final resistance before i assemble everything, dont have the space to test it out of the case.

With loadline, what kind of a vdoop do you get?

[aicjofs]

For loadline enabled I get this on 2 different boards

qx6700 at 3.8-3.6Ghz on Maximus around .01

qx9650 at 4.5Ghz on Maximus SE around .02 to .025, which is a little more then I like normally, however since the 45nm is less tolerant of voltage I don't mind a little droop to prevent overshoot returning from load to idle.

[aussie-revhead]

Im currently priming at 3200 just to find a nice stable 24/7 clock with low volts . With loadline enabled and vcore set to 1.25v in bios , cpu-z is showing 1.232v loaded , so thats pretty decent . Next time Im running at max overclock I will check again though I think it drops a little more at higher voltages.

:up:

[Brama]

Anyone knows what is the maximum safe temp for the x38/x48 ?

Following Intel datasheets, X38 has a max of 92&#176; and X48 of 85&#176;.

They are absolute max values.

I think till 60-65&#176; 24/7 it is safe to operate.

[Millyons]

For loadline enabled I get this on 2 different boards

qx6700 at 3.8-3.6Ghz on Maximus around .01

qx9650 at 4.5Ghz on Maximus SE around .02 to .025, which is a little more then I like normally, however since the 45nm is less tolerant of voltage I don't mind a little droop to prevent overshoot returning from load to idle.


Im currently priming at 3200 just to find a nice stable 24/7 clock with low volts . With loadline enabled and vcore set to 1.25v in bios , cpu-z is showing 1.232v loaded , so thats pretty decent . Next time Im running at max overclock I will check again though I think it drops a little more at higher voltages.

:up:


thanks guys, i might not even bother with the mod then, on the ga p35-ds3p i got now i get 1.248 on idle and 1.216 on small fft load, so at least asus doesnt seem worse than that if not better at least, thaught it had a bigger drop than that.

[HDPC]

Reaching out for help.

I tried some of the templates on the first post, but I can't get mine to OC at all. It kept saying OC failed (something like that). Please forgive me, as I am still learning all this. :D

I made all the changes, but when I go to the CPU advanced Configuration, my CPU information never changes. It always shows 2.4GHz.

Can anyone help me? Anyone with similiar hardware can post there settings? Thanks.

-hdpc

[jVIDIA]

Following Intel datasheets, X38 has a max of 92&#176; and X48 of 85&#176;.

They are absolute max values.

I think till 60-65&#176; 24/7 it is safe to operate.

:up:

I must find some way of cooling my Rampage without removing que stock cooling :rolleyes:

With 1,51v on the x48 I get 55&#186;C in full. Having a room temperature of 19&#186;C this is bad as the summer is comig soon :mad:

[Dostoyevsky77]

Dostoyevsky, that bandwidth is sick!

Is that on 24/7 settings?

What PL and what Pull-Ins are you using for that?

Hehe, thanks. But there's a lot more to it than just PL and pull-ins. It is my 24/7, and I stole most of what I know from Zucker and Grnfinger. A really high FSB in the 333 strap for 8:6 seems like the sweet spot with my RAM (and maybe the board???). I run at PL7 with no pull-ins. Pulling in phases 4 and 5 can POST, but not OS. Of course, the Ballistix are good even though it's not on the Crucial QVL. Some people have problems, but I've had nothing but success.

@ Millyons, sorry I don't know the answer to your question about the voltage. I really hope you read that article, though. It might convince you that the Rampage BIOS is worth flashing to. Once you have a USB drive dedicated to flashing BIOS, it becomes infinitely simple to flash to a new RF BIOS or flash back to MF BIOS. Honestly, it's almost as easy as EZFlash! Oh, and by the way, my sister lives in Beograde. She teaches English at a uni there; not sure which one. :p:

[zlojack]

Hmm...

Well I can't run that FSB on my quad. I've got 421 FSB with 561 RAM

I'm on the 400 strap tRD 6 and tRFC 60 all pullins disabled with 8GB. I'm still pretty happy with my bandwidth, but yours is awesome!

I'm going to play a bit with my subtimings and see if I can squeeze a little more out of these awesome Corsair sticks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zlojack/Corsair1123MHzPL65-5-5-15421FSB8GB2.png

[Sources]

For real world performance, the 1:1 w/ @ cl4 is a bit better then cl5 at only 1066, now if @ 1200 @ cl5 as in 5-5-5-18, then you'll see big difference in acores as wel as performance. If at 400FSB airm for 1200 (3:2) or close to it. You will need 2.24v for over 1175MHz if relaxing trd to 50~55.


My 1st guess will be too much stressing on DRAM performance boosting and tigh timings. 2md is as the guys above mentioned, except if he was reffering to actual voltages, some more then needed, and a few not enough.

Try.. more vcore, few Q6600's need up to 1.58~1.6v, PLL: of at least 1.632v but up to 1.712, FSBT of 1.42v~ but as much as 1.48v (1.504v on the 8x), NB shouldnt need more then 1.504 at such a mild FSB of only 400, but6 if on a divider. SB: 1.05~1.075v, SB_1.5: 1.5~1.55v and PCIE to 110 for starters.

This is an average starting point. Just remeber to keep RAM out of it as much as possable till you know it's stable. You're just gonna end up crashing it so often and corrupt your OS install.

Just take it one step at a time. All voltages as actual reported.


1200mhz produces much better at 5-5-5-14 for me.

Thanks Grn

[Sources]

Thank You, started with your suggested settings, ran prime for 2 hrs, everything good. bumped vcore & n/b volt down two notches, so far so good, will let prime overnight, maybe lower a little more if still stable.

would be nice to get ram back to 1066 or better, with 333 strap only have option of 960 or 1280, running at 960 now, 1280 is to much for my ram I think, will have to play with it after I'm sure that I'm stable at lowest possible voltages



I use the 400 strap to get 1066mhz

[Spyrus]

Since 0401 has loosen tREF to 3120 instead of 16383 memory latency will be loose also
and also bandwidth but no as much.
Sure will make more modules compatible since is jedec compatible (7.5-15us for tref => ~1600T-3120T)
I think i will go back to 0219 or 0308, since my ram have no problem with that.
At this time i have Linux and not windows on main rig so i have not seen how much is the difference.

[Krav]

My 3.3 q6600 passes 24 hour blend prime which i tested a month ago, but recently i guess due to weather not sure in game ive got bsod twice.

I didnt think weather could affect my stability so much. I think its the northbridge which is getting to hot and already got a spotcool fan pointed at it.

Im on bios 907 at the mo will i see any better stability or lower temps with one of the newer bios's?

Thanks.

[cadaveca]

the lowered Tref and other timings in 1201 helped lower chipset voltages quite a bit. otherwise...they are all basically the same.

[Millyons]

Hehe, thanks. But there's a lot more to it than just PL and pull-ins. It is my 24/7, and I stole most of what I know from Zucker and Grnfinger. A really high FSB in the 333 strap for 8:6 seems like the sweet spot with my RAM (and maybe the board???). I run at PL7 with no pull-ins. Pulling in phases 4 and 5 can POST, but not OS. Of course, the Ballistix are good even though it's not on the Crucial QVL. Some people have problems, but I've had nothing but success.

@ Millyons, sorry I don't know the answer to your question about the voltage. I really hope you read that article, though. It might convince you that the Rampage BIOS is worth flashing to. Once you have a USB drive dedicated to flashing BIOS, it becomes infinitely simple to flash to a new RF BIOS or flash back to MF BIOS. Honestly, it's almost as easy as EZFlash! Oh, and by the way, my sister lives in Beograde. She teaches English at a uni there; not sure which one. :p:

Thanks, i still didnt get a chance but will soon, the usb flash is not a problem, have one set up for couple years now with all my bioses, i think i still might have the afudos i used on the p5b dlx on it

thats nice, how does she like it here?

[Nuker_]

How do you make slash or backslash in DOS then? Alt gr does not work and all combinations differ from the ones I'm used to. Maybe that should be included in this guide?

[kup]

I just type a forward slash or a backslash and it works?

[Grnfinger]

Anyone see this yet?
New Maximus Formula II X48

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=78258&stc=1&d=1210370479


drool

[Nuker_]

I just type a forward slash or a backslash and it works?

On my keyboard I have to type shift + 7 or + + alt gr to get slashes. I don't have any special keys to do so. I found out that alt + 92 can make a slash, but it is the wrong type...

[kup]

You don't have the forward and backslash keys?

[kup]

Anyone see this yet?
New Maximus Formula II X48

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=78258&stc=1&d=1210370479


drool

/changes pants... :eek:

[Grnfinger]

wtf kind of keyboard do you have?

"/" is the same key as the "?" key
"\" is the same key as the "|" (pipe) key above the enterkey or below shift key on the right, depending on what modle keyboard you have

[XtremeTiramisu]

MF 1201 and RF0401 are the best bioses released up-to-date for me.
In previous MF or RF bioses, I'd get occassional DET RAM hang whether my system is stable or not.
I've just finished 2 days testings with diff config with both MF1201 and RF0401 and I've NEVER come accross with DET RAM hang ever.
It doesn't matter whether my OC'ed settings were Prime/OCCT stable or not, the system hasn't encountered any DET RAM hang issue yet.
The stability is greatly improved from either bios.

XT

[eSp!s0]

Anyone see this yet?
New Maximus Formula II X48

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=78258&stc=1&d=1210370479


drool

Isn`t it P45!? Or did you make a joke? XS.de would be great :D
http://www.hartware.de/news_44728.html

[Nuckin_Futs]

So 0308 really is better than 0401 ? Cant find a link to 0308 bios .... can someone point me to it ? ;)are these the same exact ROM files used from ASUS either FTP or official site? I only see bETA v401 for FR so far. Can I just get it from there so I dont have to go through the "20" trys to get the "cats" thing right. Can we actually use the FR official (current) to still be better then MF final?


For loadline enabled I get this on 2 different boards

qx6700 at 3.8-3.6Ghz on Maximus around .01

qx9650 at 4.5Ghz on Maximus SE around .02 to .025, which is a little more then I like normally, however since the 45nm is less tolerant of voltage I don't mind a little droop to prevent overshoot returning from load to idle.I dont understand the big fuss over vdroop modding on these recent ASUS Mobo's , All mine do 0 loadline if not a tad vbost on certian PLL & FSBT combos.


Isn`t it P45!? Or did you make a joke? XS.de would be great :D
http://www.hartware.de/news_44728.htmlIt vary well may be the new EP45, Gigabyte has theirs out so why not ASUS
---------------------------------------------------------
So from what I understand, is that of all the users on RF BIOS, none of them have a minute to just actually press the sleap button and see if it just works? Lol! Way too many things going on I guess. Believe me, if I get a day to mess with it, it'll be the very 1st thing I test.

So what about the P5E3 Premium BIOS on the Maximus? Since it offers dual CPU GTL_Ref, do we get use of it if flashed?

[Grnfinger]

Isn`t it P45!? Or did you make a joke? XS.de would be great :D
http://www.hartware.de/news_44728.html

Sorry my bad I was looking at a DFI UT X48 at the same time, had X48 on the brain:shakes:

[Zucker2k]

16 Phase seems killa, but I'd rather wait for X58... slated for Q4 2008; say hello to LGA1366:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=187206

[ZenEffect]

ive been looking @ my board, read through all the tech manuals... i cant seem to find the flux capacitor :shrug:

god im bored. sorry for the spam.

[Nuker_]

I should have a swedish keyboard. But nvm, I flashed to 1201 instead. Now I will see if I remember how much voltage my CPU needs at 3.71 Ghz, hmmm...

[Nuckin_Futs]

Before I move the RF hacked BIOS bETA test. I want to know what my current trd level is. Is there any Windows based app to identify and display the MCH and RAM sub timings? If I use Memtset, can it be booted and run from USB?

[binormalkilla]

Man this is really annoying......since I flashed to the Rampage I intermittently fail to POST on completely OCCT blended stable settings..........I have to clear the CMOS, flash my settilngs using OC Profile, then boot. I have to do this on almost EVERY reboot.
My sensors seem to bug out after a certain amount of time too...I monitor them on a G15 LCD using Everest, and the NB temp will go to 0 or -64, and all of the CPU cores will cease to yield temps.........this never happened on the Maximus either.

Anyone experience this?
I may have to forgo the small bandwidth/latency gain for ease of operation.........and flash back to the Maximus.....

[ZenEffect]

Before I move the RF hacked BIOS bETA test. I want to know what my current trd level is. Is there any Windows based app to identify and display the MCH and RAM sub timings? If I use Memtset, can it be booted and run from USB?

everest will do it.

under motherboard/chipset.. trd is "performance level" in everest as well.

[Nuckin_Futs]

So who is using the Rampage hack w/ a dual core and limited 8x multi? I see already it's great for the Q6600, but what can be gained for my E6750 at 480FSB? What is a reasonable trd to expect to get stable? Who is having any luck w/ the 266 strap & 4:5 divider while at 480FSB for 1204MHz DRAM? (BETA BIOS v1004). I think I'm ready to give it a try, the RAMPAGE Experience.

[Spyrus]

Up to 450 was easy with 266 strap & 4:5 and also 3:4/strap 400 for ddr1200.
At this fsb the best bet is you current 333strap & 5:6 or you can lower the tRD to 8/disabled for 266 strap & ddr1200

[XtremeTiramisu]

Earlier I've mentioned that both MF1201 and RF0401 never have gave me DET RAM hang issue like in any of the previous MF/RF bioses, but now I'm facing a new problem which is that my system is having a hard time passing Prime Blend for more than 30min ~ 1 hr at FSB 470 * 8. It seems the new bios likes more volts to attain stability under Prime Blend. This is my experience after 2 days of testing.

It's great that DET RAM hang issue is 100.00&#37; completely gone in the new bios but I can't retain my previous highest stable OC setting (check my sig).

[aicjofs]

Originally Posted by aicjofs
For loadline enabled I get this on 2 different boards

qx6700 at 3.8-3.6Ghz on Maximus around .01

qx9650 at 4.5Ghz on Maximus SE around .02 to .025, which is a little more then I like normally, however since the 45nm is less tolerant of voltage I don't mind a little droop to prevent overshoot returning from load to idle.
I dont understand the big fuss over vdroop modding on these recent ASUS Mobo's , All mine do 0 loadline if not a tad vbost on certian PLL & FSBT combos.

Haha..why did you quote my text I wasn't the one who wanted a droop mod, I just answered a question. In fact a few post before the text you quoted here I said "I find load line calibration enabled adequate myself". Weird...:p:

[Nuckin_Futs]

So, I take it in Everest thr trd is the performance level? I dont see anything for trd in everest. I read a lot of peepz showing how manual control of trd can help for low FSB of 400~450. but whay about muti limited CPs on the 8x? Is trd8 @ 480x8 in 5;6 DDR1153 really that less then my Q6600 w/ trd6 @ 425x9 @ 3:4 DDR1133.

So what can the E6750 benifit from in using the Rampage BIOS if anything then S3 (if it works)? Is trd7 at 480 on 333 strap gonna allow for any less vdimm or just require more vMCH? How do I know when and where to tweak pull ins and outs for stability, opposed to scores?

Any answer on the P5E3 Premium hack? The dual CPU GTL (CPU GTL_Ref 1&2 + 3&4) would really help out with higher quad OC.

[Grnfinger]

Man this is really annoying......since I flashed to the Rampage I intermittently fail to POST on completely OCCT blended stable settings..........I have to clear the CMOS, flash my settilngs using OC Profile, then boot. I have to do this on almost EVERY reboot.
My sensors seem to bug out after a certain amount of time too...I monitor them on a G15 LCD using Everest, and the NB temp will go to 0 or -64, and all of the CPU cores will cease to yield temps.........this never happened on the Maximus either.

Anyone experience this?
I may have to forgo the small bandwidth/latency gain for ease of operation.........and flash back to the Maximus.....

When running my Wolfdale I never had this issue I went as hight as 525FSB with it.
This new quad I get it all the time NB is at 0c or -65.
CPU cores dont seem to be an issue for me. I to am thinking on a flash back to Maximus, just not looking to redo my os if it is required.
While I like the "Rampage Experience" I am not 100% convinced it is all that it should be and with borked sensors it is only making it worse.

[ZenEffect]

When running my Wolfdale I never had this issue I went as hight as 525FSB with it.
This new quad I get it all the time NB is at 0c or -65.
CPU cores dont seem to be an issue for me. I to am thinking on a flash back to Maximus, just not looking to redo my os if it is required.
While I like the "Rampage Experience" I am not 100% convinced it is all that it should be and with borked sensors it is only making it worse.

thats strange... my sensors only go nuts when prime95 + everest is running. if i have just prime95 + asus pc probe going they dont go fladgibbery.

[Grnfinger]

Makes it hard to trust the reported temps when sensors are borked, am I 62c full load? or is it higher?, but with a PA120.3 and ambiant air @ a cool 17c I would think the temps would be alot lower seeing as I'm only pumping 1.38 volts to the quad

[ZenEffect]

Makes it hard to trust the reported temps when sensors are borked, am I 62c full load? or is it higher?, but with a PA120.3 and ambiant air @ a cool 17c I would think the temps would be alot lower seeing as I'm only pumping 1.38 volts to the quad

what are you using to report temps? realtemp will be 5c less than coretemp on q6600. and the only sensors that can be effected by bios changes would be the motherboard sensors. 62c full load is probably right dependant on how high your fans are running. in comparison, my cpu hits 65 at 1.55 full load, but then again im using 110cfm fans push pull and 3 radiators.

want to sell your e8400? im in the market :)

[binormalkilla]

When running my Wolfdale I never had this issue I went as hight as 525FSB with it.
This new quad I get it all the time NB is at 0c or -65.
CPU cores dont seem to be an issue for me. I to am thinking on a flash back to Maximus, just not looking to redo my os if it is required.
While I like the "Rampage Experience" I am not 100&#37; convinced it is all that it should be and with borked sensors it is only making it worse.

I agree.....borked sensors SUUUUUUCK! I'm flashing the latest Maximus BIOS right now. My CPU temps are the same though, as this shouldn't really be affected.....

[zlojack]

I haven't installed Asus PC Probe since I redid my OS...

I guess it would be good to monitor certain temps and volts, but shouldn't Everest do fine with that?

Also, I haven't been using it for very long and I just established my stable OC, but I haven't had any problems with the RF 0308 bios and not booting.

I don't reboot very often though.

[Sunburnpenguin]

So u guys think its still worth buying ASUS Maximus Formula ? i am thinking about it and would get it for around $180 , i am plaaning to go X38 to try out crossfire ( 2x 3870 ) :shrug: and perhaps buy some new ati cards in the summer for even quadfire who knows but i just cant decide is the board worth it

[Grnfinger]

what are you using to report temps? realtemp will be 5c less than coretemp on q6600. and the only sensors that can be effected by bios changes would be the motherboard sensors. 62c full load is probably right dependant on how high your fans are running. in comparison, my cpu hits 65 at 1.55 full load, but then again im using 110cfm fans push pull and 3 radiators.

want to sell your e8400? im in the market :)

Right now I run 3 Vantec 120mm Stealth fans on my PA120.3 They are 53cfm fans running at 7 volts for quiet. I can turn up the juice to 12 volts and the temps drop about 7c but they only run full when benching.
I use Everest to monitor temps.

I'll drop you a pm on the Wolfdale, I'm not sure if I want to keep it or send it to a happy home. It is really a super chip:D


I agree.....borked sensors SUUUUUUCK! I'm flashing the latest Maximus BIOS right now. My CPU temps are the same though, as this shouldn't really be affected.....

Keep us posted on 1201, I'm thinking on trying it out

[ZenEffect]

I'll drop you a pm on the Wolfdale, I'm not sure if I want to keep it or send it to a happy home. It is really a super chip:D



:D
let me know, im getting another mobo (dfi x48-tr2, coming on tuesday)
p45 is not appealing to me w/ 8x + 8x crossfire

at that time i will probably rma my maximus and sell it. (3.3 volt was going to 3.2 now 3.18 so motherboard degredation is apparent... time to flash back to maximus)

or mabye it will go in my girlfriends computer to replace her ip-35 pro (she is looking to crossfire her 3850)

[speedfreak86]

You know, I see a lot of people using 1.5+ volts for the northbridge with this motherboard. I did some tests over the past day or two and it seems like with a fsb of 400, I am stable with 1.31 bios 1.33 actual northbridge core voltage with two sticks of ram. Anyone else see this?

[ZenEffect]

You know, I see a lot of people using 1.5+ volts for the northbridge with this motherboard. I did some tests over the past day or two and it seems like with a fsb of 400, I am stable with 1.31 bios 1.33 actual northbridge core voltage with two sticks of ram. Anyone else see this?

its not uncommon. although those of us that use 1.5+ volts use 450+ fsb.

[dude_500]

I was running 1.61v NB at 450x8 and it started to be a little unstable now and then. I actually just decreased the NB to 1.47 and now it's stable. I could probably go even lower. I think people just naturally give the x38 more than it actually needs. I'm guessing I could have stablized 1.61v with a different GTL reference voltage, but why bother when lower voltage works fine!

[Grnfinger]

I was running 1.61v NB at 450x8 and it started to be a little unstable now and then. I actually just decreased the NB to 1.47 and now it's stable. I could probably go even lower. I think people just naturally give the x38 more than it actually needs. I'm guessing I could have stablized 1.61v with a different GTL reference voltage, but why bother when lower voltage works fine!

I only use 1.47 for NB 450x8FSB as well, I agree I see alot of high NB volts for no reason. I have not botherd to try and lower NB below 1.47 but I'm sure with a few mins of tweaking I could get that down a bit more.

[MurderCityDevil]

i have a request. I was wondering if one of the experienced overclockers who know how to work with a quad, specifically, a q6600 can like guide me through this thing over aim or msn or something because I cannot for the life of me get stable at 3.8 and I hate having to play this guessing game. I would greatly appreciate it. Right now the longest I've been stable is like 9 minutes :(

[Talonman]

ok, i'm stuck, hopefully some of you guys can point me in the right direction. I started doing a serious attempt at methodically overclocking my q6600 g0 to 3.8. I got my first glimpse of stability at 5 hours prime95 doing small fft's. I'm running the rampage 0308 bios. Here's my last stable settings (they're not complete, but you get the general idea)

FSB - 423
Multiplier - 9
Strap - Auto
Memory clock - 846, timings on auto (5-5-5-15)
Clock twister - lighter
no other settings fiddled with, except loadline callibration on to help vdroop and both spread spectrums disabled.

cpu voltage - 1.50625
Nb - 1.53
FSBT - 1.52
DRAM - 2.01
cpuPLL - 1.62

^^ these are the values set in bios, btw.

So I got 5 hours with those settings before a BSOD. I thought I would up the FSBT to 1.54, so I did, and then only got 2 hours before a crash. I don't know what is keeping me back. Can someone please help me out? I know I can be stable at 3.8, i just don't remember my old "sweet spot" settings.

edit: my memory is 2x1gb sticks of crucial ballistix tracers 8500. i don't think any of my other components come into play here.

I am guessing these settings are close to what you are still currently running. :)
I require this much voltage for 3.8GHz with my Q6600:
FSB -- DDR2 ----- BIOs ----- CPU-Z ------ BIOS ---- Everest -- CPU-Z
420 -- 840MHz -- 3.79GHz -- 3.7801GHz -- x.xxxxxv -- x.xxv --- x.xxxv

421 -- 842MHz -- 3.80GHz -- 3.7895GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v

422 -- 844MHz -- 3.81GHz -- 3.7979GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v

423 -- 846MHz -- 3.82GHz -- 3.8074GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v

424 -- 848MHz -- 3.83GHz -- 3.8164GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v

425 -- 850MHz -- 3.84GHz -- 3.8252GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v

426 -- 852MHz -- 3.85GHz -- 3.8346GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.53v -- 1.528v


Due to it once running 5 hours before a BSOD, I was wondering if it could be heat related?
How are your temps?
How hot does your CPU and NB get in general under load?

[MurderCityDevil]

I actually think it could have been too much heat on the nb. I just lowered my nb down to 1.47 and am trying it right now. The cpu gets really hot, but I'm not horribly concerned about that. I'm on air, but the only way it could even get remotely close to this temp is when i'm running prime, which I won't be doing probably ever again once I get stability.

[speedfreak86]

its not uncommon. although those of us that use 1.5+ volts use 450+ fsb.

I don't disagree with you, but even a lot of the original posts detailing how to reach 400fsb on a quad are using 1.5+ volts. I may have to do some testing to see what it takes to hit 450fsb.

[Talonman]

One more fun test to do for picking your FSB Termination voltage is set it to AUTO once and boot. (If you have auto. I am on the Maximus BIOS which does.) ;)

Once booted at 3.8GHz into your OS, use Everest or some program to see what your mobo thinks is best for a FSB voltage.

Then see what you would have to set your BIOS to to match it, plus a tad more for good measure.

I am no expert, but have heard that too much, or too little FSB can cost you some stability.

At 3.8GHz, and my FSB Termination voltage set to AUTO, my mobo picked 1.54 volts. I then set my bios up to make Everest always read 1.55 volts.

[Nuckin_Futs]

You know, I see a lot of people using 1.5+ volts for the northbridge with this motherboard. I did some tests over the past day or two and it seems like with a fsb of 400, I am stable with 1.31 bios 1.33 actual northbridge core voltage with two sticks of ram. Anyone else see this?I read through a lot of it and it mostly comes doan to RAM and tight timings w/ to much booster. All that stressing of RAM and NB comes at a cost, it need more vMCH + vDIMM and of cores creates more heat. Most of it is actually needed if you force a Performance tighter then defualt. Of corse, now the stress is so much more on the MCH and unlike the RAM, replacing the chipset means RMA entire mobo. I use 1.504v exactly on a 500FSB w/ E6750, but yes, quads do reauire more overhead so of corse need more vMCH. Mine Q6600 needs only 1.54v at the same 500FSB and as daily, only 1.52v.


i have a request. I was wondering if one of the experienced overclockers who know how to work with a quad, specifically, a q6600 can like guide me through this thing over aim or msn or something because I cannot for the life of me get stable at 3.8 and I hate having to play this guessing game. I would greatly appreciate it. Right now the longest I've been stable is like 9 minutes :(
PM me and I can meet you on Yahoo Messanger or AIM, or MSN. I have good daily usefull profiles for both these core, E6750 and Q6600.

[OVERK|LL]

Just flashed to 1201! Though with my extremely mild OC, I doubt I'm going to notice anything.

[speedfreak86]

I read through a lot of it and it mostly comes doan to RAM and tight timings w/ to much booster. All that stressing of RAM and NB comes at a cost, it need more vMCH + vDIMM and of cores creates more heat. Most of it is actually needed if you force a Performance tighter then defualt. Of corse, now the stress is so much more on the MCH and unlike the RAM, replacing the chipset means RMA entire mobo. I use 1.504v exactly on a 500FSB w/ E6750, but yes, quads do reauire more overhead so of corse need more vMCH. Mine Q6600 needs only 1.54v at the same 500FSB and as daily, only 1.52v.

I don't run tight timings really I suppose. I use a performance level of 6 and I believe my transaction booster is Light with a relax level of 0. Every voltage on my board besides the northbridge and cpu core are set to the absolute lowest value the board will allow. Everything is OCCT stable and runs very well from day to day. I run a Vcore of 1.53 bios and 1.51 real for my 24/7. My chip will run 6X400@1.3V bios(actually I am sure it would run this with lower, but this is just my VID.), 7X400@1.3V bios, 8X400@1.34V bios, and 9X400@1.53V bios.

[Jodiuh]

I haven't installed Asus PC Probe since I redid my OS...

Asus site lists 1.04.40 as latest in Maximus page, but ftp shows .49 that released yesterday - ftp://ftp.asus.com/../pub/ASUS/misc/utils/ProbeII_V10449_XPVista.zip

I've recently gotten an e8400 and am plenty happy it does 3.6 on 1.08V, but would love to look into some of this Asus software now that some time has passed. I've still got the EPU chip disabled in the BIOS, heh.

1. BIOS upgrade.
2. Play w/ Asus software.

...


3. Drink Beer cause my board just went up in smoke processing the environment.

[Nuckin_Futs]

I don't run tight timings really I suppose. I use a performance level of 6 and I believe my transaction booster is Light with a relax level of 0. Every voltage on my board besides the northbridge and cpu core are set to the absolute lowest value the board will allow. Everything is OCCT stable and runs very well from day to day. I run a Vcore of 1.53 bios and 1.51 real for my 24/7. My chip will run 6X400@1.3V bios(actually I am sure it would run this with lower, but this is just my VID.), 7X400@1.3V bios, 8X400@1.34V bios, and 9X400@1.53V bios.Is this the B3 stepping? I have the GO. Do you get automatic use of the VID in TM2+C1E mode? Mine never fully worked in C1E+TM2 to lower my VID w/ FID. What ap can adjust this when my CPU FID lowers to 6x? mine runs 2.8GHz in 6x C1E mode but VID stays solid at 1.48v and can do w/ only 1.25v or less.

Can any Rampage BIOS user at least confirm this, does it allow the full function TM2 mode w/ C1E, not just the old TM+C1E w/ no VID change?

[speedfreak86]

Is this the B3 stepping? I have the GO. Do you get automatic use of the VID in TM2+C1E mode? Mine never fully worked in C1E+TM2 to lower my VID w/ FID. What ap can adjust this when my CPU FID lowers to 6x? mine runs 2.8GHz in 6x C1E mode but VID stays solid at 1.48v and can do w/ only 1.25v or less.

Can any Rampage BIOS user at least confirm this, does it allow the full function TM2 mode w/ C1E, not just the old TM+C1E w/ no VID change?

This is a B3. I honestly don't know about using the VID in TM2+C1E. I never use this function. The testing was all done using manual settings in the bios(multiplier and VCore). All of this testing was more for my knowledge than anything. I am using bios 1003 on my board. It has been very stable with the 400 strap, but the same can't be said for the 266 and 333 strap.

[Jodiuh]

VR's article on EPU (http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Dwelling_into_the_ASUS_Energy_Processing_Unit/5744-1.html) really cleared things up for me. And of course made me wonder how they failed so badly at an OC tool like uguru? Well, I've played w/ EPU for some time now and came away very impressed. I can feel the heat of my tower actually decrease. :D In means a lot in the summer out here. Also, there were no issues whatsoever w/ the install. Everything played out nicely.

This is a shot of EPU completely disabled w/ no software either pc probe or ai suite. Windows update sees it as some sort of power management chip for some time now.
http://thenicetech.com/Pictures/Asus&#37;20Maximus/BIOS_1201_stock_C1E_EIST_enabled_EPU%20disabled.jp g

After installing the driver, it's immediately recognized and installed w/ no hassles.
http://thenicetech.com/Pictures/Asus%20Maximus/BIOS_1201_stock_C1E_EIST_enabled_EPU%20enabled%20a nd%20installed.jpg

Load and it spikes the bus up to 350. This chip is actually good to around 410 maxing near 3.7Ghz w/ only 1.080V if tweaked manually.
http://thenicetech.com/Pictures/Asus%20Maximus/EPU_auto_load.jpg

After letting the system settle for a minute it came down to 8 watts? How accurate is this?
http://thenicetech.com/Pictures/Asus%20Maximus/EPU_auto_idle.jpg

If only there were a way to add in my own settings to flip on the fly vcore ~ speed and other items such as transaction booster, etc. The tool is quite fun to play with showing me my savings and accounting for it w/ a rolling panda, but I can think of quite a few other items that might make a nicer avatar w/ bouncing something or others. :D I'll start clocking again and see what happens. I'd love to clock this chip down further w/ more manual control, but I suppose that's coming...

[Nuckin_Futs]

EPU, and Ai Gear? I had an unstable experience with it the 1st time around back in early Oct '07. Have they fixed the drivers for it yet? Can it be installed and run at a large OC like mine or is it rather FSB limited? Also, how does the EPU and ai Gear work w/ the RF BIOS and PC Probe II as well for changing fan speed on the fly? Why can I change so much as just the fan performance options in PC Probe without haveing to reboot. What is the point? I may as well just slip into S4, resume, and enter CMOS on the way to set fan speed myself. Is this normal since P35? !975X responded on the fly.

[bummerboy]

dudes, if you are using 2 stick of ram, <1.5v NB is more than enough. but for >450fsb and >1:1 ratio and >2stick ram, need quite a bit more VNB

[Nuckin_Futs]

Is anybody noticing if 1) the X3360 can offfer any more FSB and or clock then the Q9450 w/ much less vcore? and 1) Are the 45nm OC's, since using much less Core OC putting any less stress on chipset allowing for any less vMCH on NB?

[binormalkilla]

Right now I run 3 Vantec 120mm Stealth fans on my PA120.3 They are 53cfm fans running at 7 volts for quiet. I can turn up the juice to 12 volts and the temps drop about 7c but they only run full when benching.
I use Everest to monitor temps.

I'll drop you a pm on the Wolfdale, I'm not sure if I want to keep it or send it to a happy home. It is really a super chip:D



Keep us posted on 1201, I'm thinking on trying it out

So far so good. I get about the same bandwidth with the 1201 set to:
Multi: 8x
FSB: 470
DDR2-1129
5-5-5-15
AI Clock Twister: Strong
DRAM Static: Disabled
Performance Level: Auto
I don't have to clear the freaking CMOS after EVERY reboot either......so that's sweet. I'm going to stick with the Maximus.....

[Grnfinger]

For the guy that was looking for a stable q6600 overclock
here is a 9x425 6.5 hours prime blend stable

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3800final.jpg

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [6]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

All voltages are bios set not actual

[MurderCityDevil]

well i put in those settings and so far i can't even post. i gotta go eat mother's day lunch but i'll mess around with it a bit more when i get back.

[Grnfinger]

well i put in those settings and so far i can't even post. i gotta go eat mother's day lunch but i'll mess around with it a bit more when i get back.

if you have budget ram you may have to drop down from 1133 to something your ram can handle, if your getting stuck at the "det dram" hang raise PL to 7 and the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: should boot just fine

[MurderCityDevil]

i don't think it's ram. I have 8500 crucial ballistix tracers. I got it to post, but then it stuck at the windows loading screen. I think the vcore isn't high enough. I just raised it to 1.53 but it froze in the same place. I'll try lowering the ram speed to 850.

lowering the ram speed causes post failure and "oc fail" message every time. See this is the kind of stuff that just irritates me. why would the system be more stable at higher ram speeds than at lower? I don't understand my system at all.

raised pll to 1.54 and system still hangs at "windows is starting up..." pre-logon screen.

[Grnfinger]

i don't think it's ram. I have 8500 crucial ballistix tracers. I got it to post, but then it stuck at the windows loading screen. I think the vcore isn't high enough. I just raised it to 1.53 but it froze in the same place. I'll try lowering the ram speed to 850.

lowering the ram speed causes post failure and "oc fail" message every time. See this is the kind of stuff that just irritates me. why would the system be more stable at higher ram speeds than at lower? I don't understand my system at all.

raised pll to 1.54 and system still hangs at "windows is starting up..." pre-logon screen.

How much ram do you have? Are you running all 4 slots or 2.
Also what is the VID of your chip? a higher vid will cause you alot of grief.
You may have posted this b4 but if not what version are you running?
Maxiumus or a Rampage conversion and what vers bios.
NB volts will play a large factor if your running all 4 slots,
If you dont mind please post your current hardware again so adjustments can made accordingly.

[MurderCityDevil]

im running 2 gigs of ram, using 2 slots (the blue ones). the vid of my chip, as reported by coretemp and everest, is 1.2625. running rampage bios 0401 on a maximus formula non-se. I have an evga 9800GX2. hard drives are two WD. power supply is a pcp&c 750 quad silencer.

[Grnfinger]

If you dont mind post your current stable clock to see where you at now in terms of volts.

[Scyphe]

I have to say, modern overclocking is very different from what is used to be. I have an E8200 running on my Maximus Formula 1.03 and the settings in BIOS to get a max stable O/C are just over-the-top. I have the chip running 3.6 (8x450) but it's probably not stable, and I'm not sure how to pinpoint which settings I should change. I'll keep browsing this thread for more ideas but so far it's a major undertaking to get good clocks if you're not used to overclocking ASUS/Intel-boards.

After I've run a memtest and then some OCCT/Orthos with this FSB (had the system rockstable at 8x440, decided to go for 450 with the new BIOS) I'll drop some numbers and images and ask for advice on my current voltages and settings.

EDIT:
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9353/system450ed6.jpg

Had to increase the voltage from 1.250 to 1.300 (1.280 effectively) to not instant-death-by-blue. Don't know if the temps are okay for a "normal" air setup (scythe mine b) but it's stable at 65C/core.

What I really have no clue about is RAM overclocking. I have the reapers in the sig and they're currently running @ 900Mhz. I had to relax the timings and tried fiddling with transaction booster (currently relax [0]) and the other options in that area but ideally someone with a good knowledge of OCZ RAM could give me some advice on how to get the best performance out of those sticks. I'll go into the BIOS later and copy the settings I use.

Grateful for any help or advice. Btw, how much voltage can the E8200 Wolfdale take?

[atomica]

MF1201 has fixed the dreaded det RAM error. been a few days and the PC boots without hanging. phew.

[Sources]

This is a rock solid temp for me. I even dropped the cpu volts to 1.40 and NB to 1.47 and still stable for 1 hour so far.



For the guy that was looking for a stable q6600 overclock
here is a 9x425 6.5 hours prime blend stable

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3800final.jpg

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [6]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

All voltages are bios set not actual

[Jodiuh]

EPU, and Ai Gear? I had an unstable experience with it the 1st time around back in early Oct '07. Have they fixed the drivers for it yet?
I had exactly the same experience, but it may have been due to OC and/or C1E/EIST disabled. Of course there was Vista 64 I blamed it on too. I did experience and odd issue of it locking once, then on boot, NOD couldn't connect to the kernel, but next reboot, all's ok. I can't exactly blame the software as I've been in and out of standby w/ dual monitors, MPC running, etc. It's pretty nice to get all setup, but I haven't managed to OC yet. PC Probe's terribly inferior to Everest or HW Monitor so it will not be used. The FAN EQ looks pretty bad too, but I use only quiet fans that don't require controllers. Now w/ this going, everything seems cooler. The pc does seem less responsive even opening FF, but it's interesting to play w/.

EDIT: EPU gets disabled as soon as a I manually change bus to 366 and boot. Changing back to 333 still does not help. It may be that auto needs to be enabled in the BIOS. No fun. :( So right now I've got all volts on lowest and it appears 3.6ghz will be close to the limit for no effort required OC.

[aussie-revhead]

I just cant get my L737B stable at 4Ghz ...

:shrug:

[MaXXimus]

Couple questions...

1. Whats the most stable BIOS out of these two 0907 or 1201?
2. What benefits are there with doing the Rampage conversion and is it easily reversable?

[The Coolest]

I just got a Maximus Formula and a E6850
The current BIOS is pretty old, 0505.
I can't get it to post with the RAM in my sig. I think it should be able to at least get up to 333MHz fairly easily with enough voltage.
It stops at "Det RAM". I tried an el-cheapo DDR2-667 1GB stick and it seems to be working fine.
I tried to set Vdimm to 2.18v, timings to 4-4-4 and to 5-5-5 niether is stable. with 5-5-5 I get ntfs.sys is corrupted...
I haven't yet checked into all the ram settings in the BIOS, as I'm kinda overwhlmed by the amount of them.

Does anybody have any recommendations? If I should update the BIOS what would be the best choice? (My primary objective is 100&#37; stability, less maximum overclockability)

[Dryden]

Another cold boot victim here. Instead of det dram my particular poison is cpu init. Gets about 2.5 seconds before the box shuts off from cold boot, and then instantly powers back on and is prime stable in excess of 8 hours. The "double boot" so to speak happens everytime the machine doesn't have any juice going to it IF and only if a slight overclock has been made. By slight I mean as little as 10 mhz on the fsb. Have literally tried everything under the sun (including the pwr fan thing, w/different ram, w/o ram, etc).

System specs:
rampage formula (this might not be the right post but I didn't see an official rampage formula)
e8400
8 gigs g.skill pc2 8000s
evga 9800 GTX SSC
Silverstone DA800
true 120

The rest is pretty inconsequential seeing as its not plugged in to anything :). No fans in the board. I have replaced all parts but the board with known working parts in my other machine as well as 2 spare g.skill's and I've also tested all the parts in the other machine -- everything works fine even the PSU.

Other box:

dfi x48-t2r
e3110
4 gigs ocz reapers
evga 8800 GTS g92
corsair 620w

I thought ram and all the other things people mentioned about det dram (even though this is cpu init), but I'm not officially "hanging" so to speak. Just getting a double boot. Its almost as though the capacitors or something on the board just aren't working right until its been warmed up once. I sent a ticket in to Asus but we'll see. I doubt newegg will take this thing back since it works with stock auto settings.

[tc17]

The latest bios 1201 for the Maximus Formula did fix its incompatability (errors) with my previous Transcend memory.

Although its too late because I already bought Corsair memory. Kinda makes me angry, since I had to waste money on more ram, and now they fix the problem many months later.

[Talonman]

Couple questions...

2. What benefits are there with doing the Rampage conversion and is it easily reversable?

I would like to know what the advantages are too... :shrug:

[MurderCityDevil]

If you dont mind post your current stable clock to see where you at now in terms of volts.

well, I just loaded defaults so i could use my comp without crashes until I start oc'ing again, so I don't think that would help much. I know that for that 5 hour stable run, my cpu volt was 1.50625

[Grnfinger]

well, I just loaded defaults so i could use my comp without crashes until I start oc'ing again, so I don't think that would help much. I know that for that 5 hour stable run, my cpu volt was 1.50625

defaults dont mean much to me, in order to help you better I need to have something to start with, you cant just take someones settings and expect them to work, there will be tweaking and adjusting to get your hardware to play nicely.

[The Coolest]

Just updated the BIOS to 1201 and its a no go. I guess this RAM just isn't what I have hoped it would be...

[Grnfinger]

I just got a Maximus Formula and a E6850
The current BIOS is pretty old, 0505.
I can't get it to post with the RAM in my sig. I think it should be able to at least get up to 333MHz fairly easily with enough voltage.
It stops at "Det RAM". I tried an el-cheapo DDR2-667 1GB stick and it seems to be working fine.
I tried to set Vdimm to 2.18v, timings to 4-4-4 and to 5-5-5 niether is stable. with 5-5-5 I get ntfs.sys is corrupted...
I haven't yet checked into all the ram settings in the BIOS, as I'm kinda overwhlmed by the amount of them.

Does anybody have any recommendations? If I should update the BIOS what would be the best choice? (My primary objective is 100% stability, less maximum overclockability)

Rampage can be a bugger to set up to avoid the Det Dram hang, I find its a Transbooster setting and PL setting, 400 strap is most stable, 333 can be fussy at times, I have settings for a quad and e8400 if you would like some templates to try

[kotty]

hi guys
does anyone here uses Crucial ballistix tracer as memory????
cause 80&#37; of my friends that have this combination->Crucial Tracer + Asus Maximus Formula are having problems with bllue screen,resets,system unstable.......
and i have the same memory and i was planning to buy one maximus formula......
does anyone know if they fixed this bug?
thanks!

[Grnfinger]

hi guys
does anyone here uses Crucial ballistix tracer as memory????
cause 80% of my friends that have this combination->Crucial Tracer + Asus Maximus Formula are having problems with bllue screen,resets,system unstable.......
and i have the same memory and i was planning to buy one maximus formula......
does anyone know if they fixed this bug?
thanks!

Ballistix Tracers and Maximus are NOT compatible, call crucial they will confirm this.

[kotty]

Ballistix Tracers and Maximus are NOT compatible, call crucial they will confirm this.

owwww =(
thanks for the information.......
now i must find a motherboard that is good as maximus formula........=(

[Grnfinger]

Grab a DFI LT X48 TR2 excellent board

[The Coolest]

Rampage can be a bugger to set up to avoid the Det Dram hang, I find its a Transbooster setting and PL setting, 400 strap is most stable, 333 can be fussy at times, I have settings for a quad and e8400 if you would like some templates to try
Thanks.
The problem is that I can't even get a post at stock or after reset to the CMOS. that would require me to constantly swap sticks to get the system up each time an OC fails and it tries to go back to defaults.
I'm now considering an upgrade to 4gb, what 4gb kit would be a good combo with this board? My budget is a bit limited so something in the price range of a decent PC6400 ram will have to do.

[MurderCityDevil]

defaults dont mean much to me, in order to help you better I need to have something to start with, you cant just take someones settings and expect them to work, there will be tweaking and adjusting to get your hardware to play nicely.

ok, the most stable settings (5 hours) were the following -

fsb: 425
ram : 850
CpuPLL - 1.62
Nb - 1.53
FSBT - 1.52
Cpu - 1.50625
dram: 2.12

all ram settings were on auto except for the frequency. Clock twister was on "Lighter". everything else was auto except for loadline callibration being enabled.

By the way, about 95% of the time, i get a bsod. I almost never get actual prime rounding errors, my system just crashes and reboots.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Couple questions...

1. Whats the most stable BIOS out of these two 0907 or 1201?
2. What benefits are there with doing the Rampage conversion and is it easily reversable?I cant speak for 1201, but v0907 was far from stable for me w/ a E6750 & Q6600, but it was mostly to do w/ it corrupting my eProm so it didnt matter what I flashed or CPU I ran there after. Eaqch of our experiences is different, so really depends on who answers, I know there are some that will swear by v0970. I can speak of v1004, it doesnt support S3/STR, but for testing, it is nice for a q6600/E6750 and Tracers on low vDIMM w/ relaxed trfc.


I just got a Maximus Formula and a E6850
The current BIOS is pretty old, 0505.
I can't get it to post with the RAM in my sig. I think it should be able to at least get up to 333MHz fairly easily with enough voltage.
It stops at "Det RAM". I tried an el-cheapo DDR2-667 1GB stick and it seems to be working fine.
I tried to set Vdimm to 2.18v, timings to 4-4-4 and to 5-5-5 niether is stable. with 5-5-5 I get ntfs.sys is corrupted...
I haven't yet checked into all the ram settings in the BIOS, as I'm kinda overwhlmed by the amount of them.

Does anybody have any recommendations? If I should update the BIOS what would be the best choice? (My primary objective is 100% stability, less maximum overclockability)First off get to know how much your mobo overvolts by looking in Power Management (CMOS) and from here on, reffer to actual used voltages. Next This mobo is picky w/ forced straps and dividers. So start out w/ Strap and DRAM spd to Auto, this will allow you to view all dividers if needed but use most stable of 1:1 if DRAM is left to Auto. Keep youir RAM loos as done, adjust vDIMM for 2.22v (actual, used) and make sure timings are set manually even f left loose, ie; 5-5-5-15. I have seen plenty of value RAM go well above rated, especially DDR533 to DDR830, so if you feed it the vDIMM, it shoud do 800MHz easily + some or a few. For our E6750/E6850's, these OC to 4GHz on 500x right out of the box on origional to final (v0802) but v0602 was most richest in stability, everything worked, S3/STR, S4, most dividers, etc. 1x 1g is much easier 9more NB OC) to OC then 2x 1g and especially 2x 2g.


hi guys
does anyone here uses Crucial ballistix tracer as memory????
cause 80% of my friends that have this combination->Crucial Tracer + Asus Maximus Formula are having problems with bllue screen,resets,system unstable.......
and i have the same memory and i was planning to buy one maximus formula......
does anyone know if they fixed this bug?
thanks!You'll find a lot of us using the older double sided w/ great results just fine. There are a lot of unlucky one too, but same for any part we buy, some go further then others. Intel will tell you they cant guarenty your CPU over 10% OC but we all do it anyways cause it works for the most part. A good handfull of errors are user side, so I'm sure Crucial and ASUS are not willing to deal w/ the droma anymore and keep it simple. Mine have worked on every BIOS since new, and a previously daily user, P5K Deluxe and test bed Gigabyte P35C-DS3R and even an older set in a P5WDG2-WS Pro. If you have 'em now and they are over 9 months + old, chances are you're good to go. Just keep them cool, Mine respond well to relaxed sub timings and can work on lower vDIMM.

[The Coolest]

First off get to know how much your mobo overvolts by looking in Power Management (CMOS) and from here on, reffer to actual used voltages. Next This mobo is picky w/ forced straps and dividers. So start out w/ Strap and DRAM spd to Auto, this will allow you to view all dividers if needed but use most stable of 1:1 if DRAM is left to Auto. Keep youir RAM loos as done, adjust vDIMM for 2.22v (actual, used) and make sure timings are set manually even f left loose, ie; 5-5-5-15. I have seen plenty of value RAM go well above rated, especially DDR533 to DDR830, so if you feed it the vDIMM, it shoud do 800MHz easily + some or a few. For our E6750/E6850's, these OC to 4GHz on 500x right out of the box on origional to final (v0802) but v0602 was most richest in stability, everything worked, S3/STR, S4, most dividers, etc. 1x 1g is much easier 9more NB OC) to OC then 2x 1g and especially 2x 2g.

Well I'm using the 1gig stick just to get the rig going as you can see my secondary system isn't really cutting edge :p:
The problem with the OCZ is that I can't get it to post after a CMOS reset, I have to put in the Kingston stick just to get to the BIOS, that isn't what I'm after.
So this is why I'm also wondering what is a recommended 4GB kit (2GB is just doesn't quite cut it for me, as I like to keep the page file off). If there was a way to get this set of RAM running, great, but if not I'm going for an upgrade :)
Thanks!

[Jodiuh]

Rampage can be a bugger to set up to avoid the Det Dram hang, I find its a Transbooster setting and PL setting, 400 strap is most stable, 333 can be fussy at times, I have settings for a quad and e8400 if you would like some templates to try

I would love anything you have to offer bro. I'm doing my very best to keep all volts on board aside from CPU to minimum and hit 4G stable. So far it's looking good, but I'm sure I'll get the itch for more shortly.

Room temp 25.7C, BIOS 1201
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/e8400/e8400_3870.jpg

[ZenEffect]

I would love anything you have to offer bro. I'm doing my very best to keep all volts on board aside from CPU to minimum and hit 4G stable. So far it's looking good, but I'm sure I'll get the itch for more shortly.

Room temp 25.7C, BIOS 1201


why not set it to the desired frequency then raise volts till its stable. i dont understand the point of the point of incremental overclocking like most people do. if i cant get the processor to do the frequency at the voltage i want its returned. everybody here always knows what ballpark they want. if you cant get the frequency you want with the voltage set the volts you are comfortable with and start backing down frequency until it becomes stable, then back down volts more until it becomes unstable and thus you find your lowest operating voltage at highest operating frequency much quicker. mabye im just impatient.

[Jodiuh]

Fewer bsods this way and no "verify" crap while gaming at a LAN party. I suppose I could just boot to another OS, but I really enjoy seeing how far my new chip can go under day to day activity. It's like watching an electronic pet grow. :D

I have had it gaming @ 4.3, but do not like surprises, heh. To each his own.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Well I'm using the 1gig stick just to get the rig going as you can see my secondary system isn't really cutting edge :p:
The problem with the OCZ is that I can't get it to post after a CMOS reset, I have to put in the Kingston stick just to get to the BIOS, that isn't what I'm after.
So this is why I'm also wondering what is a recommended 4GB kit (2GB is just doesn't quite cut it for me, as I like to keep the page file off). If there was a way to get this set of RAM running, great, but if not I'm going for an upgrade :)
Thanks!Odd, I had the best luck w/ OCZ Platinum. When BETA BIOS screwed up my system, I could only boot w/ OCZ to load profiles and put Tracers back in.

As for a good 4g kit, do try to stick to a 2 slot kit, 2x 2g. You'll of corse need to relax timings accordingly, as they will most likely not hold to your old profile w/o some volting in vDIMM and vMCH. I found the OCZ Platinums to bee good and stable and OC pretty good for what they were. I had a 2x 2g DDR800 kit to DDR1000 @ 2-2-2-13 w/ trfc to 50 @ 2.20vCel Shock makes a nice 2x 2g but I cant speak for their DDR2 version.

[By0T0xN]

I cant speak for 1201, but v0907 was far from stable for me w/ a E6750 & Q6600, but it was mostly to do w/ it corrupting my eProm so it didnt matter what I flashed or CPU I ran there after. Eaqch of our experiences is different, so really depends on who answers, I know there are some that will swear by v0970. I can speak of v1004, it doesnt support S3/STR, but for testing, it is nice for a q6600/E6750 and Tracers on low vDIMM w/ relaxed trfc.


You'll find a lot of us using the older double sided w/ great results just fine. There are a lot of unlucky one too, but same for any part we buy, some go further then others. Intel will tell you they cant guarenty your CPU over 10% OC but we all do it anyways cause it works for the most part. A good handfull of errors are user side, so I'm sure Crucial and ASUS are not willing to deal w/ the droma anymore and keep it simple. Mine have worked on every BIOS since new, and a previously daily user, P5K Deluxe and test bed Gigabyte P35C-DS3R and even an older set in a P5WDG2-WS Pro. If you have 'em now and they are over 9 months + old, chances are you're good to go. Just keep them cool, Mine respond well to relaxed sub timings and can work on lower vDIMM.

It weird how some boards work well with certain bios versions and others don't. I personally don't completely understand what exactly causes this. But my board is running v907 w/E6750 and just recently Q6700 completely stable @ 3.4/1.31v along with my dbl sided 8500 Ballistix @ 1133 @ 2.2v. I want to try 1201 but I'm a lil apprehensive just because I'm happy with where I'm at right now with v907. I'm also curious about the Rampage mod, but again is it worth the effort/process to do the switch? I mean am I really going to gain anything out of it performance wise to risk the instability that might occur?

slightly paranoid, :shrug:
By0T0xN

[Edro Davis]

I'm trying to baseline my BIOS config before OCing my new build but I'm concerned about high NB and SB temps when I haven't even done anything yet in the BIOS.

Before I installed the mobo I removed the entire NB/SB/heatsink assembly, removed the oem paste or whatever it was, applied ac5, and reassembled the mobo. I think that I did a decent job of it. It is possible that I used a little too much paste.

Note that my ambient room temp is a little high: 30c
But these temps seem high for running idle:
NB: 53c
SB: 51c

Can anyone offer some advice on this?

[Sem]

the Voltiminder LEDs near my SB after orange and flashing

the LEDs near the CPU, NB, and Memory are all green

does it mean i need more volts for my SB
i think i left it on default

using a quad core @ 400x9

[The Coolest]

Odd, I had the best luck w/ OCZ Platinum. When BETA BIOS screwed up my system, I could only boot w/ OCZ to load profiles and put Tracers back in.

As for a good 4g kit, do try to stick to a 2 slot kit, 2x 2g. You'll of corse need to relax timings accordingly, as they will most likely not hold to your old profile w/o some volting in vDIMM and vMCH. I found the OCZ Platinums to bee good and stable and OC pretty good for what they were. I had a 2x 2g DDR800 kit to DDR1000 @ 2-2-2-13 w/ trfc to 50 @ 2.20vCel Shock makes a nice 2x 2g but I cant speak for their DDR2 version.
I have a theory (which might be very wrong, but I'll post it). This RAM is rated at DDR2-533. It doesn't have SPD settings for anything higher than that. Is it possible to add SPD settings for higher speed? I think I saw some time ago a program that allows you to edit a stick's SPD chip.

[MaXXimus]

Ok so I went ahead and did the Rampage Conversion and all went well using BIOS 0401. But as a noob Im a little confused as to why is my DRAM Command Rate listed as 2N and not 2T? Is this typical for a X48?

[aicjofs]

It doesn't have SPD settings for anything higher than that. Is it possible to add SPD settings for higher speed? I think I saw some time ago a program that allows you to edit a stick's SPD chip.

SPDtool

http://www.techpowerup.com/spdtool/

You don't really add settings as much as change the settings that are already there. It's usually more useful in an enviroment where you have no BIOS control. i.e laptop, HP, Dell, etc

I doubt it with the OCZ's but some sticks are read only. If it's hardware wirte protect you can pull an EEPROM leg to ground, if it's software write protect, there are 2 versions of software, one cannot be defeated, and the other you need a special tool with code.

That said, I'm not sure that's your issue because you have full control over almost all timings, but you can try. Only flash one stick and test so you have a bootable one to flash back to...like I said I doubt that is your issue but if you are feeling like trying something new...

(BTW as a side note I thought I read some time ago that OCZ was making their own SPD editor...don't know if that ever happened or not)

[MaXXimus]

Anyone give me some insight to overclocking my QX9650 to 3.6GHz? I have the Rampage Conversion and have my CPU @ 9x, FSB to 400 and Strap to 400, with these simple changes I should only need to up my NB volts correct? Any suggestions?

[ante_ante]

Whats the highest recommended PLL voltage for daily use on a E8400 ? Is there any risk of frying the cpu with to much PLL ??

[ChaosMinionX]

Whats the highest recommended PLL voltage for daily use on a E8400 ? Is there any risk of frying the cpu with to much PLL ??

Dont go over 1.7v PLL

[Kyo`]

Hello after a while :p:
I have some issues with my newly bought Maximus. For a start, it overvolts every voltage - except VCORE - by +0.05-0.1v. I set PLL on 1.5v, it's working on 1.6v. I set NB on 1.41, and in reality it's 1.46v, and so on. Is this normal?
Next thing is something that bothers me greatly. I own a pair of 1GB 1066 KingMax RAM sticks, which worked great on my old DS3R, that are supported officialy by the Maximus (at least that's what the fookin manual says). But no matter what settings I use, and I've tried really everything doing 2 weeks of tests, they don't want to work properly. When I set them on 900MHz (1:1 FSB ratio, 3600MHz Q6600) and start blending in Prime, I get errors after ~45 mins (just when the 896K test starts). When I set them on 1066MHz, I get errors after 1 min of blending - they don't even pass the first test! And I get instant freezes/restarts when playing games too.
At first I thought it's a RAM problem, so I installed another pair of KingMax's (yes, I love them), which are also mentioned in the officially supported list. This time it was a 800MHz pair, which worked great @ 960MHz on the DS3R. But that didn't solve the problem, even on those sticks I still get the blending errors as soon as the 896K test starts.
It's also worth mentioning that I pass the small FTT's test 5H+ with no errors, so the CPU works fine - it's purely a RAM situation here.
What the hell is the problem here, could it be a motherboard hardware problem? Is something wrong with the board and I should RMA it?
The issues started as soon as I got the board, on the 802 bios. Then I tried 2 other bios versions - 1004 and 1201, but that didn't change anything. Could flashing to Rampage Formula help?
When I said I tried every setting, I really mean it - various voltages and their combinations, straps, ratios, transaction boosters etc.
I need some advice badly, I'm desperate, sending another ASUS board to RMA is just too much :down:

[Dynacore]

@ above:
The overvolting is a known issue in some of the latest asus boards.
Maybe putting your dimms in the white slots can help, if you have not tried yet.


I finally got my E6850 over the 3,6Ghz on my RF. Enabling Loadline Calibration did the trick, also had to add a little PLL voltage for 8+ hours Orthos stable at 3,7Ghz.
I know there are problems with these settings on the 45nm models but I should be ok. Temps went thru the roof though, 66 coretemp at full stress is no joke, still long way from Tjunction.
Of course should be able to down vcore a bit since my vdroop is gone.
Memory running at 822Mhz, 1:1, 4-4-4-12
Strap 400
Command Rate 1
Clock Twister Strong
Performance level 7

When I try performance level 6 I get the det ram error, but to be honest I didnt expect my ram to overclock even this far with these timings.
Cant wait to try out 3,8 Ghz... falling in love with this mobo.

[Kyo`]

Aye, I did try to put them in the white slots, didn't change a thing tho.

[Grnfinger]

there is no benifit from white or blue slots, ppl see what they want, bandwidth scores however are hard to argue.
Have you tried memtest and I see your running the dimms at 2.0, Have you tried the rated 1.8volts @ stock speed running memtest?
Depending on heat, volts and NB volts your ram could just be a poor performer @ 46 bucks for 2GBs I would not expect to much from it.
Try running it at maybe 800MHz 4-4-4-12 and see if that helps, I also see your running NB at 1.41 volts thats kinda low imo for a quad at 3.5GHz, try upping it to 1.47-1.49 and see if it improves any.
I would guess its just a few settings need tweaking to get you running smooth again.

[Talonman]

How hot is your NB getting when under load?

[Grnfinger]

I might be mistaken but the Maximus board is NOT listed on the KingMax website as compatable ram

[Kyo`]

My NB is at fairly low temps, around 40-46C. I've tried applying as much as 1.7v on it, didn't help with anything tho. Also it's not a CPU or RAM voltage problem, since they were running at the exact same settings on a cheap-ass Gigabyte DS3R. KingMax states on their website that 2.0 is normal for running their memories when overclocked, I've also seen lots of people running them as high as 2.2-2.3v without problems. I tried putting more voltage on the cpu (why would it matter I don't know tho, as long as it's a few hours small FTT's stable how can if affect the memory in any way?), but that didn't help either.
Tighting the timings even on low frequencies ended up with instant blending errors and unstability, just like running 1066 modules @ 1066.

/edit
Grnfinger: but the exact same RAMs are listed as compatible in the ASUS Maximus Formula Manual along with some other brands.
Look here:
http://www.asus.com/999/download/products/1889/1889_10.pdf

[Grnfinger]

My NB is at fairly low temps, around 40-46C. I've tried applying as much as 1.7v on it, didn't help with anything tho. Also it's not a CPU or RAM voltage problem, since they were running at the exact same settings on a cheap-ass Gigabyte DS3R. KingMax states on their website that 2.0 is normal for running their memories when overclocked, I've also seen lots of people running them as high as 2.2-2.3v without problems. I tried putting more voltage on the cpu (why would it matter I don't know tho, as long as it's a few hours small FTT's stable how can if affect the memory in any way?), but that didn't help either.
Tighting the timings even on low frequencies ended up with instant blending errors and unstability, just like running 1066 modules @ 1066.

/edit
Grnfinger: but the exact same RAMs are listed as compatible in the ASUS Maximus Formula Manual along with some other brands.
Look here:
http://www.asus.com/999/download/products/1889/1889_10.pdf


Have you tested the dimms with memtest?

[Kyo`]

Have you tested the dimms with memtest?

Not yet, but will do - I'll post some results later.

[The Coolest]

What do you think about the Mushkin DDR2 4096MB (2048MBx2) 800Mhz CL 4-4-4-12 XP ? These have Micron D9 chips and are very well priced.
I'm just completely lost in the different memories on offer and I don't know what to chose. This set seems to be guaranteed to have D9 chips, good timings and capable of 400MHz FSB without too much hassle.
Any other suggestions?

[HDPC]

Hi there Grnfinger,

I use your as a template but I am having no luck.
For the section:
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF

Mine show as DRAM instead of DDR2.

When I change that to DDR2-REFF it turns redish pink, and my Frequency on the CPU configuration still shows as 2.4GHz. But when I put it to AUTO then the Frequency shows a 3.6GHz, but I get a 'Det Ram' on boot up.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

-hdpc


For the guy that was looking for a stable q6600 overclock
here is a 9x425 6.5 hours prime blend stable

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3800final.jpg

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [6]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

All voltages are bios set not actual

[Sparda]

What do you think about the Mushkin DDR2 4096MB (2048MBx2) 800Mhz CL 4-4-4-12 XP ? These have Micron D9 chips and are very well priced.
I'm just completely lost in the different memories on offer and I don't know what to chose. This set seems to be guaranteed to have D9 chips, good timings and capable of 400MHz FSB without too much hassle.
Any other suggestions?

I heard Mushkin XP2 PC6400 4-4-4-12 (white) do fine.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185948

So as Corsair Dominator 2x2GB PC8500 DDR2.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179555

[The Coolest]

Looks like this is it: http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?id=634
The one with model number 996580.

[Dostoyevsky77]

Whats the highest recommended PLL voltage for daily use on a E8400 ? Is there any risk of frying the cpu with to much PLL ??

I use 1.54 for PLL, because that seems to give me just under 1.60 actual. It has been satisfactory for three different E8400s including suicide runs past 4.7GHz.

[Sparda]

Whats the highest recommended PLL voltage for daily use on a E8400 ? Is there any risk of frying the cpu with to much PLL ??

Yeap dont go over 1.7v PLL. Several people at DFI thread cap their cpu when set the PLL at 1.74 v. They lost their max fsb.

Btw that black mushkin can only do around 1000mhz with loose timing.

[The Coolest]

The store has pics of both the black and white model.
The only XP series fitting the specs on Mushkin's site is the one I linked to. I don't know.
Do you have any other recommendations, something not expensive?

[Factotum]

Rampage Formula Bios 0403 (ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/0403.zip)- No Tested

[Sparda]

The store has pics of both the black and white model.
The only XP series fitting the specs on Mushkin's site is the one I linked to. I don't know.
Do you have any other recommendations, something not expensive?

Heh I not a salesman. Other cheap 2x2gb ddr1000 ram are the G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ which usually can do less than 1050-1066 mhz.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163668&page=22

The other one is OCZ Platinum XTC OCZ2P10004GK which I have no idea how it perform with this mobo. Just go to OCZ forum to find out or use the advance search function.

edit : Btw that Mushkin XP2 PC6400 4-4-4-12 has black or white model. Just pick the white one but I think it the same.

[vikings]

Hi guys, I have a question for my pc in sign, how use occt.

When occt is running while I use internet , I get BSOD.
I did many tests about this, but I can't use occt togheter internet connection.

I used occt "alone" and was ok even for 8 hours.

There are only bsod, no code errors.

I don't still understand the cause of this problem, or if it is a problem.
Because I don't know if it is normal use occt while other program running.

[kup]

Rampage Formula Bios 0403 (ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/0403.zip)- No Tested

Cheers for the link. I'll add it to the first post now.

[Zucker2k]

Anyone tested 0403 yet?

[Anuaja]

Anyone tested 0403 yet?

So far...
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7742/quadpi85x485rt4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7742/quadpi85x485rt4.d3b2d94044.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=127&i=quadpi85x485rt4.jpg)

[theonlybabyface]

So far...
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7742/quadpi85x485rt4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7742/quadpi85x485rt4.d3b2d94044.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=127&i=quadpi85x485rt4.jpg)

Did you have to change the tREF to 3120T or was it set like that in the bios? Reason why I ask is because bios 0401 relaxed this setting (you can't change it in the bios) and I want to make sure that Asus has corrected it. :)

[ante_ante]

WIth 0401 i could run my E8400 at 450x9 with 1.35, now with 0403 it wont boot windows. So no go for me......

[Anuaja]

Did you have to change the tREF to 3120T or was it set like that in the bios? Reason why I ask is because bios 0401 relaxed this setting (you can't change it in the bios) and I want to make sure that Asus has corrected it. :)

I don't change anything in memset. Sorry my bad english

[Grnfinger]

Did you have to change the tREF to 3120T or was it set like that in the bios? Reason why I ask is because bios 0401 relaxed this setting (you can't change it in the bios) and I want to make sure that Asus has corrected it. :)

Memory bandwidth is the same for me on 401 or 403.
I dont use memset but everest reports it as 3120

[The Coolest]

Heh I not a salesman. Other cheap 2x2gb ddr1000 ram are the G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ which usually can do less than 1050-1066 mhz.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163668&page=22

The other one is OCZ Platinum XTC OCZ2P10004GK which I have no idea how it perform with this mobo. Just go to OCZ forum to find out or use the advance search function.

edit : Btw that Mushkin XP2 PC6400 4-4-4-12 has black or white model. Just pick the white one but I think it the same.

Thanks, the GSkill RAM is just $2 more than that Mushkin.
The OCZ is about $5 more expensive....
Ugh this is a tough choice, heh :D
I just wanna make sure I don't get screwed with some uncompatible RAM like I was the last time I bought RAM.

[Grnfinger]

Thanks, the GSkill RAM is just $2 more than that Mushkin.
The OCZ is about $5 more expensive....
Ugh this is a tough choice, heh :D
I just wanna make sure I don't get screwed with some uncompatible RAM like I was the last time I bought RAM.

I think G-Skill or grab Corsair.
I personally would avoid OCZ ram like the plague
Or if you can grab a kit of Mushkin Redlines I think you would be very sastified

[Nuckin_Futs]

I have a theory (which might be very wrong, but I'll post it). This RAM is rated at DDR2-533. It doesn't have SPD settings for anything higher than that. Is it possible to add SPD settings for higher speed? I think I saw some time ago a program that allows you to edit a stick's SPD chip.See, when I ask, nobody answeres, But yes, thats exactly what I just asked a week back.


I think G-Skill or grab Corsair.
I personally would avoid OCZ ram like the plague
Or if you can grab a kit of Mushkin Redlines I think you would be very sastified
What is or was your bad experience with OCZ? I'm curious because I have used them w/ everything and always had good results from everything to overvolting to great heat cooling on stock and better with add ons. Now I've only used the Platinums of 2x 1g and 2x 2g on DDR2, looking to try a DDR3 set.

[Renegade5399]

What is or was your bad experience with OCZ? I'm curious because I have used them w/ everything and always had good results from everything to overvolting to great heat cooling on stock and better with add ons. Now I've only used the Platinums of 2x 1g and 2x 2g on DDR2, looking to try a DDR3 set.

I too am curious why you avoid OCZ. My 1066 Reapers have outlived 4 sets of Ballistix. They clock well, take voltage well, and perform excellent.

[The Coolest]

I think G-Skill or grab Corsair.
I personally would avoid OCZ ram like the plague
Or if you can grab a kit of Mushkin Redlines I think you would be very sastified

http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?id=647 is what you mean?
That's the cheapest kit out of the lot.... ugh.

[Dostoyevsky77]

I've seen a slight increase in bandwidth over 0401 with 0403. I am as close to 0219 as I've gotten yet:

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture-31.jpg

[eSp!s0]

Thanks, the GSkill RAM is just $2 more than that Mushkin.
The OCZ is about $5 more expensive....
Ugh this is a tough choice, heh :D
I just wanna make sure I don't get screwed with some uncompatible RAM like I was the last time I bought RAM.

Yes, take the G.Skills. There are a lot of people here and at forumdeluxx.de using the G.Skills 4GB PC2-8000/-8500 on this board and I don`t know anybody having any problems.
And you will find a lot of settings with this ram here ;)

[Grnfinger]

What is or was your bad experience with OCZ? I'm curious because I have used them w/ everything and always had good results from everything to overvolting to great heat cooling on stock and better with add ons. Now I've only used the Platinums of 2x 1g and 2x 2g on DDR2, looking to try a DDR3 set.

The ram is ok I'm not saying it wont do what they advertise it to do.
There rma policy tho is questionable at best. 7 months and still waiting for my return kit... this and this alone has soured me on OCZ ram... I would never buy from them again because of this. I could go into great detail but this is not the place for it...so that is the short version of my OCZ experience.



http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?id=647 is what you mean?
That's the cheapest kit out of the lot.... ugh.

regardless of price the redlines are a very good deal for the money, they will hit 1100MHz with no effort but Corsair Dominators would be my first choice then gskill for sure then mushkin

[The Coolest]

Dominators are out of my price range. So I guess G.Skills is it.
Thanks.

[Talonman]

These seem to work well for me on the Maximus, and cheep too!

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

[Darkstormz]

I've seen a slight increase in bandwidth over 0401 with 0403. I am as close to 0219 as I've gotten yet

Same here, doing some more testing :)

[Nuckin_Futs]

I'm interested in a 2x 2g kit to hit 1153~1200MHz on 2.22v (@ 1153). Can I see some daily results of G-Skill PC2-8500's to over 1153 to 1200 compared to Crucilas, on same machine if possable? I know my Ballistix can do and hold 1280 for hrs cooled @ 2.34v wich gives me plenty of headroom at loewer 1200. So this is what I'm sort of looking for. I dont want RAM that is stretching for 1150MHz barely. For me , it's not so much the budget as it is more the quality of overclockability.

[trt740]

Hey I just noticed the northbridge of my maximus formula only has two screws in it diagonal from each other with two other empty sockets aren't there supposed to be four screws. It looks to me like they just forgot to install the other two at the factory. Is anyone elses north bridge installed like that.

[ZenEffect]

Hey I just noticed the northbridge of my maximus formula only has two screws in it diaginal from each other with two other empty sockets aren't there supposed to be four screws. It looks to me like they just forgot to install the other two at the factory. Is anyone elses north bridge installed like that.

mine has 4 screws... w/ springs and washers and stuff. from the factory.. no mod here.

[trt740]

mine has 4 screws... w/ springs and washers and stuff. from the factory.. no mod here.

I never touched mine they just forgot the other two screws the ones in the board are installed Diagonal just like a push pin northbridge cooler would be but the other two holes are empty. WTF I never realized they shouldn't be that way until I look at a review and saw 4 screws. :shocked:

[The Coolest]

These seem to work well for me on the Maximus, and cheep too!

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

Thanks peeps.
I just ordered 2 of those :D
That's just a price I couldn't miss!!

[samtan]

Hey guys

So if i have a memory stick that won't post (get stuck at DET DRAM) on the same slot that all my ram is working on (all ram are of same make/type) on defaut settings... guess its a bad stick?

or should i risk it and try the newer bios
" Maximus Formula 1201 Bios
Improve Memory compatibility "

Other than that stick ... The rest Corsair 2x2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX is working nicely :)

Thanks

[ZenEffect]

Hey guys

So if i have a memory stick that won't post (get stuck at DET DRAM) on the same slot that all my ram is working on (all ram are of same make/type) on defaut settings... guess its a bad stick?

or should i risk it and try the newer bios
" Maximus Formula 1201 Bios
Improve Memory compatibility "

Other than that stick ... The rest Corsair 2x2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX is working nicely :)

Thanks

its probably a bad stick.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Hey guys

So if i have a memory stick that won't post (get stuck at DET DRAM) on the same slot that all my ram is working on (all ram are of same make/type) on defaut settings... guess its a bad stick?

or should i risk it and try the newer bios
" Maximus Formula 1201 Bios
Improve Memory compatibility "

Other than that stick ... The rest Corsair 2x2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX is working nicely :)

Thanks


Like me and many other have mentioned before, the MF1201 or the RF0401 eliminated the DET RAM hang issue permanently regardless of OC stability.
RF0403 is availiable for download by the way, you can give that a try.

[jVIDIA]

I've got my Rampage with the RF0401 and I get DET RAM hangs if I mess up bad with my OC bios settings ;)

Must try RF0403.

Any info about the changes on the RF0403.

I'm going now to use 4GB on my Rampage, as there are finally good 2x2GB kits.

From the following 2x2GB memory kits, what do you think will do a better OC in a Rampage :

- Corsair 2x2GB Dominator PC-8500

- GSkill 2x2GB PC-8500 PK ( 8 layers )

or the new

- OCZ 2x2GB PC-9200 Flex II

?


My target OC on the mem will be 1130MHz / 1200MHz Cas 5

[CaseMD]

I use OCZ 2x2GB PC-9200 Flex II with Maximus formula and have no problems at all.
Max speed i have tested around 1180.
But you can use them without watercooling

[E.R]

I've got my Rampage with the RF0401 and I get DET RAM hangs if I mess up bad with my OC bios settings ;)

Must try RF0403.

Any info about the changes on the RF0403.

I'm going now to use 4GB on my Rampage, as there are finally good 2x2GB kits.

From the following 2x2GB memory kits, what do you think will do a better OC in a Rampage :

- Corsair 2x2GB Dominator PC-8500

- GSkill 2x2GB PC-8500 PK ( 8 layers )

or the new

- OCZ 2x2GB PC-9200 Flex II

?


My target OC on the mem will be 1130MHz / 1200MHz Cas 5
I would not get the Flex II until it is clearly verified they can boot on 1.8V on the memory picky Maximus/Rampage as my old 4x1GB Flex XLC PC9200 was haninging on DET DRAM on the Maximus with or wo Rampage BIOS and they required a manual setting of minimum 2.0V on Ram to even boot at DDR800.
They even hang on DET DRAM with anything but 400 memorystrap.
Only way to make them boot was buying a chep memstick and manualy put in 2.0Vdimm and save BIOS and shut down and then put in the Flex-memory.
That is anoying as hell and i am glad my DDR3 not is like that.

[sofarfrome]

I would not get the Flex II until it is clearly verified they can boot on 1.8V on the memory picky Maximus/Rampage...

They boot fine with both of my boards...FWIW

[cyrixMII300]

ok guys.. i have some new info for you. i was getting tired of everyone saying that crucial is not compatible with MF and decided to speak to crucial myself. i went online and had a chat with one of their agents who in turn checked with the tech dept. to make a long story short, according to crucial, the PC8500 kit is not compatible with the X38 mobo. however, this is only true if you run 4 pcs of the ram with the same specs on a X38 mobo and it would probably kill the ram. according to Crucial, if you run 2pcs however, there should be no problems.

if you insist on running 4 pcs of the ram on a X38 mobo, then you need to run it at lower speeds and or latencies and the ram could probably work without problems. only if you run at rated speeds there is a risk.

however, kudos to crucial that they r not shirking their responsibility to replace the modules which consumers have already bought albeit with something cheaper (they dont have a choice there) or you could keep the in store credit to get something else from them. they also pay for shipping.

if anyone has further doubts, please let me know.

[Levesque]

Sigh... I was getting random reboots with 4X1Gb of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500, so an ''agent'' online at Crucial told me they could exchange them for lower performing modules that are worth less... So I just lost money... :( They don't want to pay me the difference or give me any credits...

Stupid... That's what I like about the computer industry... Sigh...

He told me that ANY combinations (2 or 4 sticks of Ballistix PC2-8500) is INCOMPATIBLE with the Maximus Formula...

The last time I will ever buy any Crucial RAM... :(

[cyrixMII300]

Sigh... I was getting random reboots with 4X1Gb of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500, so an ''agent'' online at Crucial told me they could exchange them for lower performing modules that are worth less... So I just lost money... :( They don't want to pay me the difference or give me any credits...

Stupid... That's what I like about the computer industry... Sigh...

He told me that ANY combinations (2 or 4 sticks of Ballistix PC2-8500) is INCOMPATIBLE with the Maximus Formula...

The last time I will ever buy any Crucial RAM... :(


this is interesting news...

[cadaveca]

I am running replacement pc5300 from crucial, 8FE4's...running 5-5-5-15 1066mhz, no problem, 4 sticks.

But i noticed SPD is different than my pc8500 8FE5's...TREF and TRFC not good for these 8FEx's.

[cuke2u]

Sigh... I was getting random reboots with 4X1Gb of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500, so an ''agent'' online at Crucial told me they could exchange them for lower performing modules that are worth less... So I just lost money... :( They don't want to pay me the difference or give me any credits...

Stupid... That's what I like about the computer industry... Sigh...

He told me that ANY combinations (2 or 4 sticks of Ballistix PC2-8500) is INCOMPATIBLE with the Maximus Formula...

The last time I will ever buy any Crucial RAM... :(

:rofl:

Chris

[MagicMan]

Hi...

I currently have My q9450 @ 3.2 with the 1201 BIOS and i've had a BSOD a few times while browsing the net and i wasen't doing anything else. Do these settings look ok??...or do i need to disable or change anything?.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2773/img1184db5.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8617/img1185rw6.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9964/img1186rr6.jpg

I'm also running 4x1gigs of cellshock ram.

I've ran Prime95 small FFTs for over 8 hours and blend for about the same without any crashes or BSOD's and today i've had a couple of BSOD by just browsing the internet.

This is what the BSOD said...

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7235/img1191jc2.jpg


Any help is appreciated, thanks.

[zlojack]

MagicMan you might want to run Memtest86+ to see if you're getting memory errors. Sometimes they pop up in the strangest places.

[Grnfinger]

ok guys.. i have some new info for you. i was getting tired of everyone saying that crucial is not compatible with MF and decided to speak to crucial myself. i went online and had a chat with one of their agents who in turn checked with the tech dept. to make a long story short, according to crucial, the PC8500 kit is not compatible with the X38 mobo. however, this is only true if you run 4 pcs of the ram with the same specs on a X38 mobo and it would probably kill the ram. according to Crucial, if you run 2pcs however, there should be no problems.

if you insist on running 4 pcs of the ram on a X38 mobo, then you need to run it at lower speeds and or latencies and the ram could probably work without problems. only if you run at rated speeds there is a risk.

however, kudos to crucial that they r not shirking their responsibility to replace the modules which consumers have already bought albeit with something cheaper (they dont have a choice there) or you could keep the in store credit to get something else from them. they also pay for shipping.

if anyone has further doubts, please let me know.


Did I miss something?? I coverd all this about 150 posts ago:rolleyes:

Kudos to crucial?? for what taking a 100 bucks of your money and giving you 60 bucks worth of crap...WOO WHOO:rofl:

[Renegade5399]

Sigh... I was getting random reboots with 4X1Gb of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500, so an ''agent'' online at Crucial told me they could exchange them for lower performing modules that are worth less... So I just lost money... :( They don't want to pay me the difference or give me any credits...

Stupid... That's what I like about the computer industry... Sigh...

He told me that ANY combinations (2 or 4 sticks of Ballistix PC2-8500) is INCOMPATIBLE with the Maximus Formula...

The last time I will ever buy any Crucial RAM... :(

Demand they give you a 2x2GB kit of the new red stuff.

[Levesque]

Demand they give you a 2x2GB kit of the new red stuff.

Red stuff? :confused:

Do you have a model number? :D

[gonx_me]

New bios, out today!
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1102.zip

[kup]

New bios, out today!
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1102.zip

Added to first post.

[JKad]

New bios, out today!
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1102.zip

so 1102 is newer than 1201?

[XtremeTiramisu]

New bios, out today!
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1102.zip

What the heck, "new" bios with the # "1102" ?
Followed by the previous beta MF1004 bios, MF1201 seems to be the most recent beta file by its #.
I assume that MF 1102 is the first official MF bios that's ever released in a long time?

I'll wait for AsusTek to upload both new RF/MF bioses with their logs.

[MagicMan]

MagicMan you might want to run Memtest86+ to see if you're getting memory errors. Sometimes they pop up in the strangest places.

hi...

I just ran memtest for more than 2 hours without any errors. I might run it for longer tomorrow, but i think my ram is fine.

I upped the volts a tad on the Vcore, FSB and NB. Hopefully that might sort it. It's very annoying when i run prime for over
8 hours without crashes or BSOD, but anything can happen i suppose.

BTW does my settings look ok? or do i need to change or disable anything?. I've disabled all the limiting features that i know off.

Thanks.

[Grnfinger]

hi...

I just ran memtest for more than 2 hours without any errors. I might run it for longer tomorrow, but i think my ram is fine.

I upped the volts a tad on the Vcore, FSB and NB. Hopefully that might sort it. It's very annoying when i run prime for over
8 hours without crashes or BSOD, but anything can happen i suppose.

BTW does my settings look ok? or do i need to change or disable anything?. I've disabled all the limiting features that i know off.

Thanks.

NB volts look way to low for 4GBs and a quad core imo.
I would up the volts to maybe 1.49 and retest

[cyrixMII300]

Did I miss something?? I coverd all this about 150 posts ago:rolleyes:

Kudos to crucial?? for what taking a 100 bucks of your money and giving you 60 bucks worth of crap...WOO WHOO:rofl:

you think your words are the ultimate truth? whats wrong with some additional information and double confirmation?

and yes kudos to crucial. in a business where there are so many vendors who shirk their responsibility crucial IMO are doing the right thing by offering the next best thing they have plus your exact change in balance. and i say again Kudos to crucial.