The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[adrenaline7879]

the regulars in the forums has doen wonders for me and this board. thank you all and keep up the great work. been thinkin about getting some pc-8500 2X2gb ram and put my tracers to the side for an HTPC in the future before they crap out on me. there doin great right now at 1081 but not sure if i should wait for them to go out or just get new ram now and save them for a different board. been lookin into corsair and gskill alot but cant decide

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gskill :welcome:

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although corsair are also good *notices furious salesman* :ROTF:

[ZenEffect]

you know its binned at 1200MHZ, total crap it is not...end user frustrated it is.



tony = yoda?

im scared. :poke:

:p: :D

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Anyone point out the CPU, VDIMM test point via pic please, I'm going off board on auto atm.

Overvaults like crazy & don't trust early bios.

[erocker]

Next time don't quote the whole :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing page noob and ur comment is also very much useless and not helpful.

Wow, not only is this post unhelpful, it's quite insulting as well. Do you judge all people by thier post-count? ..and you call him a n00b!:clap: Trt, I think you seriously just have a bad stick of ram, try running memtest on them.

[beard]

Why don't you just send the ram back if it's defective as you suggest?

[ZenEffect]

That is crap ram . You should not have to stand on your head to get ram to run right. what your asking is crazy. When other companies make ram that works out of the box. Ocz forum has several posts about this problem or I should say had until they were deleted.

is it crazy to assume that you might have to take the extra steps to get the ram to run right considering you are using a modded board? have you tried that ram in other motherboards? its a bit unfair to lable ocz as the culpurate before fully testing to see where the root of the problem actually lies... weather it be in the asus bios, or in the actual sticks of ram themselves. according to what tony said, it seems more a fault of the asus bios rather than the ram. if the ram were bad, then there would not be a tweak to get them to run properly. i have some kingston hyperx pc-8500 that will not run anything but 800mhz in an ip35 pro (girlfriends puter) and yet i have no problem clocking them beyond 1200mhz on my machine. before labling something as "crap" perhaps the end user should determine the actual root of the problem :2cents:

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there are loads of documented compatability issues between ram & mobo's, to blame ram outright is silly

[beard]

I must warn you maximus/rampage owners: for the second time the board switched vtt to 2.00V all by itself. I'm glad i noticed it both times before pressing f10. It's caused by (extremely) unstable settings. Beware!

First time it happened (4 days ago), i used MF1004 bios. The second time (half an hour ago) was with RF0219 bios. Settings was totally different. First time i used just stupid settings (was my 3rd day with the board), now i'm searching for min voltages.

Sorry if this issue has already been discussed, 5k posts you know...

[trt740]

you know its binned at 1200MHZ, total crap it is not...end user frustrated it is.

You may have to set the board up differently to mine, i had issues over 1040 till i spent time with skew and tRD...maybe you just have to do the same.

I can not spoon feed exact settings as every board is different, you may just need to keep tweaking

I was wrong and being new at computer building I didn't consider all the things you have mentioned. You guys have shown me the error in my ways. If you have a Rampage buy this ram your gonna love it. It fast as hell even at DDR2 800 :up:

[Dostoyevsky77]

Hey, guys! I just got my RMA MF. You may be interested to know that it shipped with 1006!!!

Well, first things first is turn this baby back into an RF. :p:

[beard]

@ trt740: Well you must take a look in the mirror if you wasn't even sure what the ram is spec'd for.

EDIT: you keep editing your posts all the time, now my post kind of lost its meaning...

[ZenEffect]

Hey, guys! I just got my RMA MF. You may be interested to know that it shipped with 1006!!!

Well, first things first is turn this baby back into an RF. :p:

that was a rather fast rma :) let us know how this mobo performs compared to the last, its interesting to see if there is a noticable difference switching motherboards though they are supposed to be the exact same.

[Grnfinger]

Hey, guys! I just got my RMA MF. You may be interested to know that it shipped with 1006!!!

Well, first things first is turn this baby back into an RF. :p:

That was a fast RMA, is Asus still doing cross shipping?
I thought they stopped that, they wanted to test every board b4 sending out a new one.

[trt740]

Well you must take a look in the mirror if you wasn't even sure what the ram is spec'd for.

EDIT: you keep editing you posts all the time, now my post kind of lost its meaning...

As I said i'm new at computer building and now understand it was unfair to say that the OCZ ram was crap. I now realize it must be me and highly recommend to anyone that they should give it a try.:up: The ram is speced for DDR2 1150 55515t2 and binned at DDR2 1200 as Tony has said.

[beard]

No you were totally sarcastic like "guys this ocz flex2 1150 is great ram and everybody buy rampage x48 it's the best" or something... But then you erased it...

[trt740]

No you were totally sarcastic like "guys this ocz flex2 1150 is great ram and everybody buy rampage x48 it's the best" or something... But then you erased it...

I realized I made a mistake and corrected it.:D seriously Tony is Ocz Jedi Ram Master. Being new at this kind of stuff I clearly set up something wrong. Its not the rams fault it was my fault. I should have posted my specs here first and then asked Tony for help before being judgemental. OCZ makes great stuff. Heck my powersupply is from them.

[beard]

Well, imo you're still being very sarcastic (pissed off?) but if you're serious then you're even weirder, sorry no offense, can't help the impression i get, this is not emotional statement :) Peace :up:

And sorry for ot guys, this is a great thread let's keep it that way.

[Tony]

You know guys I feel boards are getting way to complicated, i had a long discussion with Raja about this over the last 2 days on and off and he agrees.
I was asked by the office to write guides for 1150Flex, on many boards you can NOT just set the speed and go, this is especially so with X38 and X48...P35 is usually a lot easier.

On the Rampage i had forgotten there is a skew setting, i for one really feel skew should be handled by the boards engineers as they can properly measure and calibrate the bios to adjust skew as clock speed rises. Alternatively thru lab testing bios code should auto adjust with known good settings, IE PSC die IC's we all use for 2GB modules, they pretty much need the same skew at the same frequency so you just map the skew settings and hide the option so the end users don't have to touch it...the ram clocks easy but may not hit the absolute max, end users would not worry to much though on the whole.

One things for sure though, its quite apparent that quite a few of these settings we are seeing in bios now actually DO need to be tweaked...if you stay by auto you may not get the best from your system.

[trt740]

Well, imo you're still being very sarcastic (pissed off?) but if you're serious then you're even weirder, sorry no offense, can't help the impression i get, this is not emotional statement :) Peace :up:

And sorry for ot guys, this is a great thread let's keep it that way.

Man you cannot win on this thread no matter what you say:rolleyes:

[dimsdale]

I've had that happen to my 1004 beta MF board a few times when I was working on different OC settings.
Very strange indeed.


I must warn you maximus/rampage owners: for the second time the board switched vtt to 2.00V all by itself. I'm glad i noticed it both times before pressing f10. It's caused by (extremely) unstable settings. Beware!

First time it happened (4 days ago), i used MF1004 bios. The second time (half an hour ago) was with RF0219 bios. Settings was totally different. First time i used just stupid settings (was my 3rd day with the board), now i'm searching for min voltages.

Sorry if this issue has already been discussed, 5k posts you know...

[Dostoyevsky77]

@ GrnFinger & ZenEffect:

Uh... actually, I ordered a new board, so I don't have to stress about the RMA period.

Here are some (surprising) differences between the new board and my last one (besides being shipped with 1006)...

1) My NB temperature is about 5(c) higher at the same voltage! :down: I don't remember if there was a break-in period for the stock TIM (I didn't replace it last time either) because I was on a different chip and RAM. I hope it gets better! It WAS at 40/43, now we're at 45/49. Is that too high?

2) The silver VRM heatsinks near the I/O panel are recessed towards the CPU quite significantly. I had to bend the fins on the HS and bend the pipe slightly just to fit my Tuniq back on there (pictures to follow).

Here's the kicker. I have the SAME problem with the new board, but I've figured out how to circumvent it. I wonder if it's a PSU idiosyncrasy. As you might recall, any BIOS changes requiring a cold restart (where the system shuts down completely before restarting) would result in just a shutdown, with only clearing CMOS bringing it back on. It appears all I had to do was hold the normal case power button for five seconds and then press it again to restart with the BIOS changes. Grr... I might switch back to my old board if the NB temp doesn't come down.

@ Tony:

I tried changing the DRAM clock skew on both channels as you recommended, and it resulted in no bandwidth improvement. A quick 15-minute Everest stress test resulted in BSOD. I can't attribute it to the clock skew because I'm on a new board, but it appears my Ballistix don't like or need it. Thanks for the tipper, though! I'll look into that more in the coming days!

***EDITED for blatant spelling errors. :p:

***EDIT #2: @ Beard: I had that VTT weirdness on 0907. It really freaked me out.

[Nuckin_Futs]

At least i have show you can push the board high but you have to tune a lot more than most have been doing.
So to make clear, you have this mobo but tested the FLEX-II only on your P5E? I'm very interested in this for my MF on BETA v1004, I'm not ready to hack just yet. I have not gotten enough input or feedback on the rteality of issues from hacking to Rampage BETA's. Is it likely I can just run them in my rig as is but tuning to match your P5E less the the skew tweak? Every RAM i tested in my profile does 1153 anywayz so I am hoping this can do that plus 1200 w/ same vdimm as all? Also I noticed tou, like many, manually set a few or if not all the sub timings to exactly what auto ends up using. Is there a reason for this? I'm only curious.

For my overclock as is (480x8 in 5:6) I want or sort of need a bit more RAM so I guess 2x 2gb is the answer if I can at the very least keep my same profile. Is Primary Timings of 5-5-5-18-3-55-6-4 ok for 480x8 in 5:6 DDR1153 @ 2.22v if I dont have skew control? What actual vdimm got used for your test?


Hey, guys! I just got my RMA MF. You may be interested to know that it shipped with 1006!!!

Well, first things first is turn this baby back into an RF. :p:

Furthermore, not to you Tony, just in general.
I thought this was a cool friendly inviroment. What happen? I mean I know a few just ignor us and will never answer untill somebody they like ask, but wow. The ones acting rude wasted more tread space and time rudely replying and commenting then it would have to just answer, or say nothing.

To the guy who is gonna' RMA is hacked MF: is it stuck on RF BETA, or were you able to get back to MF for return? Is or has anybody been hassled from ASUS for flashing to RF then back to MF for an RMA? I mean can they really tell, are there block traces left like BETA v0907 left.

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How about you give it a rest, he has apologized and admitted his mistake.
if the 2 ppl he directed his comments at are not piss'd off why the :banana::banana::banana::banana: are you

I pick on the small guy, British you see.

Anyone wanna get back n track :D

[Nuckin_Futs]

I remember somebody asking of, or spaking of USB issues on certain BETA BIOS. I am experiencing issues with USB ports off one of the hubs from mobo internal on a duplex cable and it is so far on only one of the 2 (ie the top is fine well the bottom drops in and out through the day). I only started since testing on BETA v1004, and I noticed when using iPod docked while playing MP3's it continuously droped out and back in in auto play throught the day and I moved it to 2nd of the 2 ports on case hub to mobo and it is fine. I will test for another set of onvboard headers to confirm, but it may be a bad connection or wire. It is on my 2nd case, Antec P-160 w of almost 5yrs old.

[loften]

my board was acting weird on the rampage 308 bios, it ran good and clocked up for a couple days on it.. just enough to fool me. then it all went to crap. it wouldn't even run on auto setting and pass 1 pass or at any setting on any cpu stress or even pass a 3dmark test.. the usb was going in and out. i am guessing it fried my mouse. also a cd/dvd drive went wacky and my sound. it also went to 2.0v twice after setting it at 1.50v. it was like someone/somthing outside my control was opperating it.. i went back to 1004 and started everything over again for the hundredth time and it is running pretty much what it did the first few days on the rampage 308 bios.. every once in a while it crashes out in a game but it runs good untill it does.. as soon as i save up enough money i am going to get somthing other then this board it is not for me.. then i am going to take it out back and pound it into the earth.. it has been the biggest piece of crap 3-4 month experience i have ever had.

[binormalkilla]

Ok so I flashed the BIOS about a week ago and all is well. I'm stable at 475x8 so I'm pretty happy. THe only thing I'm trying to get is my bandwidth back where it used to be.....I got around 9700 MB/s with the Maximus, and now I barely get 9000 MB/s. I haven't really explored the CH pull off settings yet.....
Anyone running a quad at 3.8-3.9? If so, what sort of memory bandwidth did you get in Everest? I got around 51.5ns also...


I'm also going to reinstall Vista x64 here in a few days. Are there different chipset drivers for the X48? I'm assuming they're the same generic compilation.....

Here is the comparison from Maximus to Rampage. I tried setting the clock twister to strong and stronger to see the affect.....not very much. I had the Maximus set to:
DRAM Static disabled
AI Clock Twister: Strong
Trans booster: auto
Here is a major increase with the posted settings notepad. I'm going to test for stability....I'm skeptical.

[beard]

Have you tried manually setting trans booster to 8 or even 7?

Don't know what it sets on Auto because i can't hit 475x8 :(

EDIT: oh sorry didn't notice the 3rd screenshot...

[Jupiler]

Time to step in on this early friday morning.
Some posts (mostly crapping and flame baits) have been removed.

Keep it on topic and no more thread crapping.
Thx.

[Dostoyevsky77]

(SNIP!)
To the guy who is gonna' RMA is hacked MF: is it stuck on RF BETA, or were you able to get back to MF for return? Is or has anybody been hassled from ASUS for flashing to RF then back to MF for an RMA? I mean can they really tell, are there block traces left like BETA v0907 left.

Oh, hey. Thanks. I was actually able to get it back to MF. My problem was that I was using a non-ES version of AFUDOS. Both versions that Kup has linked on page 1 of this thread work great. I don't know where I got mine from! :p:

[binormalkilla]

Have you tried manually setting trans booster to 8 or even 7?

Don't know what it sets on Auto because i can't hit 475x8 :(

EDIT: oh sorry didn't notice the 3rd screenshot...

Yea I posted that one after rebooting. I ran Everest stress on CPU, memory, cache, and FPU........it locked up some time over night. I know it ran for at least 15 minutes though, so I imagine I'll be stable with a lower FSB and tighter tRD or by setting AI Clock Twister to strong.

[beard]

Guys, when flashing between bioses (which is of course kind of desperate), remember to clear cmos properly - i mean turn off the psu and press ccmos for at least 15 seconds.

I just wasted 2hrs because i forgot to do it.

Of course this is like abc of overclocking but when oc gets boring enough (with this board and cpu it definetly does), you tend to do such stupid mistakes... Besides, think about all those times you thought it's a no go when in reality it was just a SUE (talking about myself)...

[Tony]

clock skew will not improve bandwidth...it will allow you to tune dram clocks higher thats all.

With me not touching skew the max was 1040, play with the skews and I hit 1200 for benchin and 1180 stable for 24/7.

[itznfb]

Guys, when flashing between bioses (which is of course kind of desperate), remember to clear cmos properly - i mean turn off the psu and press ccmos for at least 15 seconds.

I just wasted 2hrs because i forgot to do it.

Of course this is like abc of overclocking but when oc gets boring enough (with this board and cpu it definetly does), you tend to do such stupid mistakes... Besides, think about all those times you thought it's a no go when in reality it was just a SUE (talking about myself)...

that's why you use switch /pbnc when flashing

[Dostoyevsky77]

clock skew will not improve bandwidth...it will allow you to tune dram clocks higher thats all.

With me not touching skew the max was 1040, play with the skews and I hit 1200 for benchin and 1180 stable for 24/7.

Do you have a link where I can learn more about this? I read a good article on the P5E at AnandTech, but it didn't go into enough detail.

The way I understand it is that clock skew places less demand on the memory controller by delaying or advancing one channel slightly to compensate for the difference in physical distance between the two banks. Is that anywhere CLOSE to true, or am I completely off the mark?

[Brama]

Do you have a link where I can learn more about this? I read a good article on the P5E at AnandTech, but it didn't go into enough detail.

The way I understand it is that clock skew places less demand on the memory controller by delaying or advancing one channel slightly to compensate for the difference in physical distance between the two banks. Is that anywhere CLOSE to true, or am I completely off the mark?

I am interested too how to use and set properly the skew parameters.
Can you help us Tony? :)

Thanks!

[Coldfox]

Need some advice, im currently using this board with a Q6600 @ 3.2.

I'm using the bios that it came with atm, (0802). Is it worth me flashing it to the rampage bios?

Thanks

[cadaveca]

I am interested too how to use and set properly the skew parameters.
Can you help us Tony? :)

Thanks!

Timing for memory bus and FSB are different. Skew allows adjustment oftimnigs within this ratio so there are more "hits" and less "misses".

for example, 4:5 needs less skew than 3:5, as the ratio is closer. Compuns this by 1-mhz adjustments in FSB, and skew may need to be different for one IC to the next, as each behaves slightly different, Hence skew for oen set may not work for all sets(2gb dimms seem to need more skew than 1gb dimms). You need to eb able to kknow acurately how your mem is erroring to be able to adjust with confidence, rather than blindly.


As an aside, 2gb Micron DDR2 and X38 don't work well together. 5-5-5 won't work abouve 1066mhz or so, but 5-6-5 does. Skew makes no difference.

[beard]

itznfb;2960885']that's why you use switch /pbnc when flashing

That's what i thought too, but it seems you have to physically destroy system cmos.

With previously stable settings, after flash, it freezed in the very beginning of loading windows. In some point i realized i may have to ccmos (i usually do it). I pressed it for a sec, loaded same settings - it loaded but freezed in vista logo. Now i knew why it was ustable, i pressed ccmos for a long period, loaded same settings - voila! Still occt stable.

Don't blindly trust such things.

[itznfb]

umm... you flash with /pbnc. turn pc off. turn pc back on, and you're starting from scratch with a default bios. you don't need to manually reset unless something went wrong.

[beard]

itznfb;2960970']umm... you flash with /pbnc. turn pc off. turn pc back on, and you're starting from scratch with a default bios. you don't need to manually reset unless something went wrong.

Whatever :) Do it your way ;)

I have my "known to be good" settings on camera too, so after flash, i just enter exactly the same settings. So there was no error between flash and the situation i described. This is what happened to me, maybe it was just crazy (un)luck. I'm not an expert, or even advanced with this board. I can't justify my opinion better than in this post, so you can do it either like you said, or with additional ccmos, it's your choice ;)

[binormalkilla]

Well I'm going to test with the clock skew and pull off settings tonight.....more results soon.

[Zucker2k]

Got myself 2 kits of this G.Skills: F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ, currently running at DDR2 1066 with 2.1v. 5-5-5-12-3-52-6-3, PL 6. I had to bump NB from 1.45v to 1.68v to drop to PL 6 1066 from PL 7 1040. I'm in a warm room (80+f).

Edit: The overclocking headroom on the 2x2GB kits is a shame.... this is what happens when company employees get too involved in the OC community. This actually has its advantages too, eg. Shamino and Tony, to name a few. But the current 2x2GB kits (going by oc headroom) should be rated at DDR2 800 (:D yeah right!). But seriously, Tony took a DDR2 1150 rated 2x2GB kit to DDR2 1180 (a 30mhz overclock!), and that was an achievement. The 50mhz overclock, ie. DDR2 1200 was only good for benching! ROFL. Don't get me wrong, for value, these kits are awesome, but oc is a joke.

[binormalkilla]

Ok I'm 32M superpi stable now with performance level 7.....I'm going to test with clock skewing later. I only dialed in my main timings to 5-5-5-15......

[Dostoyevsky77]

Whatever :) Do it your way ;)

I have my "known to be good" settings on camera too, so after flash, i just enter exactly the same settings. So there was no error between flash and the situation i described. This is what happened to me, maybe it was just crazy (un)luck. I'm not an expert, or even advanced with this board. I can't justify my opinion better than in this post, so you can do it either like you said, or with additional ccmos, it's your choice ;)

I have to agree with you: there is no harm in resetting CMOS after a flash, if it's necessary or not. Even after I use /pbnc, I will sometimes get DETRAM unless I reset CMOS. Regardless if it has anything to actually do with resetting CMOS, I do it now anyway.

[WFO]

I have to agree with you: there is no harm in resetting CMOS after a flash, if it's necessary or not. Even after I use /pbnc, I will sometimes get DETRAM unless I reset CMOS. Regardless if it has anything to actually do with resetting CMOS, I do it now anyway.

DFI has always recommended a cmos clear with the battery removed after a flash. :up:

[Nuckin_Futs]

Need some advice, im currently using this board with a Q6600 @ 3.2.

I'm using the bios that it came with atm, (0802). Is it worth me flashing it to the rampage bios?

Thanks I'd say if it works for you, and is stable, stay there. Most of the BETA's can often bring more bugs with them then they fix. 602 was the best in my experience as far as the final's go. 907 was bad for me but , v0903 was bewst of the BIOS in terms of daily use. v1004 offered better RAM loosening but S3/STR no longer worked. If we can get soem more real world insite of 1006, I may try it too.


Don't blindly trust such things.
I hear you there. It only takes an extra 15 secs. to clear out caps of stored energy. I also get the hangs on the BETA BIOS' above 0903 (it was the last colse to stock thatr didnt do it). Even 1004 did that untill I had to clear one more time but it's back up and running fine. But in 907, when it crashed, it crashed hard and took many trys of clearing and battery pulling to get up and going again even if just to POST long enough to flash out of it.

So is it so then, BETA BIOS v1006 cannot be flashed with any version of Afudos? I was told by many ASUS BETA testers not to use Live Update cause of some sort of curruption like in 907. Somebody confirm?

[binormalkilla]

All right I changed the skew to 300ps on both channels, same timings, stable 32M.

[ZenEffect]

All right I changed the skew to 300ps on both channels, same timings, stable 32M.

why? skew doesnt do anything for bandwidth. if you were stable before (superpi is not a stability test...) then what is the point? it becomes useful when you ram has hit a wall and you want to go a bit faster. tony explained this very clearly.

shouldnt 475 fsb be netting better bandwidth results? what is your common performance level?

[binormalkilla]

why? skew doesnt do anything for bandwidth. if you were stable before (superpi is not a stability test...) then what is the point? it becomes useful when you ram has hit a wall and you want to go a bit faster. tony explained this very clearly.

shouldnt 475 fsb be netting better bandwidth results? what is your common performance level?

Common performance level 7. I haven't tweaked any timings yet, but I think 9800 MB/s is pretty good......
I set the skew to 300ps for added stability. I may remove it, but it didn't seem to affect my bandwidth or latency negatively.

I also enabled the pull off for channel A phase 1. I couldn't POST with phase 2 enabled......
I tried enabling the last phase and I could POST, but I didnt' notice a difference in bandwidth (must be the nature of the settings.) I still have to fully read the explanation of the phase setting in that Anandtech article.
I wonder if they must be set sequentially....


FYI SuperPi 32M is an excellent way to quickly test memory stability. It will kick out an error much faster than Orthos/Everest/Prime95 blended. Usually unstable memory OCs (on already stable CPU OCs) will error within 1 minute of 32M SuperPi.

However after I tested performance and done 32M on each group of settings I'll run Everest system stress for 4 hours and HCI Memtest (http://hcidesign.com/memtest/) for 6-8 hours

I still may try for 3.9-4.0, but I don't know if I will be comfortable with the voltage required. My VID is a bit higher than yours. You should be happy with that G0!
BTW, what sort of bandwidth do you get? What OS?

[ZenEffect]

Common performance level 7. I haven't tweaked any timings yet, but I think 9800 MB/s is pretty good......
I set the skew to 300ps for added stability. I may remove it, but it didn't seem to affect my bandwidth or latency negatively.

I also enabled the pull off for channel A phase 1. I couldn't POST with phase 2 enabled......
I tried enabling the last phase and I could POST, but I didnt' notice a difference in bandwidth (must be the nature of the settings.) I still have to fully read the explanation of the phase setting in that Anandtech article.
I wonder if they must be set sequentially....


FYI SuperPi 32M is an excellent way to quickly test memory stability. It will kick out an error much faster than Orthos/Everest/Prime95 blended. Usually unstable memory OCs (on already stable CPU OCs) will error within 1 minute of 32M SuperPi.

However after I tested performance and done 32M on each group of settings I'll run Everest system stress for 4 hours and HCI Memtest (http://hcidesign.com/memtest/) for 6-8 hours

I still may try for 3.9-4.0, but I don't know if I will be comfortable with the voltage required. My VID is a bit higher than yours. You should be happy with that G0!
BTW, what sort of bandwidth do you get? What OS?


http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/binorma.jpg

24/7 settings. at 480fsb my cpu gives out so perhaps your g0 is better than mine? man i need a phase unit...

im not sure how well everest stress test actually stresses the system. the standard is pretty much prime95 (http://mersenne.org/gimps/p95v256.zip) for cpu and memtest for ram.

[binormalkilla]

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/binorma.jpg

24/7 settings. at 480fsb my cpu gives out so perhaps your g0 is better than mine? man i need a phase unit...

im not sure how well everest stress test actually stresses the system. the standard is pretty much prime95 (http://mersenne.org/gimps/p95v256.zip) for cpu and memtest for ram.

Yea I use prime sometimes too. The reason that I live EVerest so much is because you can get max/min/average temps over the time period, and it stresses the CPU to the max. It doesn't use all of the RAM, but then again neither does Prime95.
I don't use bootable memtest because it's really weak at detecting errors.....really only finds severely unstable settings. I've compared the HCI memtest with bootable and found HCI to be much better, but that's just IMO.
I actually had a kit of DDR that passed for 12 hours in Memtest x86 iso, but I had BSODs from them. As soon as I tested with Orthos blended, instant fail.

Excellent bandwidth results though. WHat sort of timings are you running? YOu can display them in everest by going to motherboard, then chipset.

[Dostoyevsky77]

While I was waiting for my board "RMA", I had to use my wife's computer. 19" LCD was unsatisfactory, so now she has 22+19. That in addition to my 24+19 means this: PICTURE (http://www.overclock.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/14392/size/big/cat/). The reason this is on topic is because it has to do with... um. Yes, I would like another martini, thank you.

[binormalkilla]

haha, nice. BTW what's up man? I frequent OCN. It's my favorite forum by far. My fiance thought it was crazy to put pics from the inside of my case as my desktop background.....LOL. You like to see your work though, eh?

[Dostoyevsky77]

haha, nice. BTW what's up man? I frequent OCN. It's my favorite forum by far. My fiance thought it was crazy to put pics from the inside of my case as my desktop background.....LOL. You like to see your work though, eh?

Heh, thanks. Good to see you too.

Those pictures are not my BG. I rigged that for the shot. I am a (recreational) pilot and ammeter aviation photographer, so our backgrounds are usually shots I take FROM (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/DSC_4379-1.jpg) an aircraft, OF (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/DSC_4908.jpg) an aircraft, or A Combination of Neither (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/DSC_4847.jpg). Full size upon request.

If you haven't already, you will need to explain to your fiancee the outlay necessary to maintain our computer hobbies! My wife is only just now starting to understand after almost five years!!!

[binormalkilla]

Heh, thanks. Good to see you too.

Those pictures are not my BG. I rigged that for the shot. I am a (recreational) pilot and ammeter aviation photographer, so our backgrounds are usually shots I take FROM (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/DSC_4379-1.jpg) an aircraft, OF (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/DSC_4908.jpg) an aircraft, or A Combination of Neither (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/DSC_4847.jpg). Full size upon request.

If you haven't already, you will need to explain to your fiancee the outlay necessary to maintain our computer hobbies! My wife is only just now starting to understand after almost five years!!!
LOL yea she definitely respects my interest in PCs, as it pays the bills :p

[beard]

All i can say to you guys is: wow!

Dostoyevsky, living your dream? :clap: Amazing photos btw!

I hope some day hardware will pay our bills too :up:

Till then,

If you haven't already, you will need to explain to your fiancee the outlay necessary to maintain our computer hobbies! My wife is only just now starting to understand after almost five years!!! ...mind sharing what you said to her? It's been almost 8 years now and I haven't come up with such an explanation (lie?). :rolleyes:



I hear you there. It only takes an extra 15 secs. to clear out caps of stored energy.

Yes that's exactly what i mean, you can never be too cautious with these things. Think about the possible amount of time you waste if there's errors caused by old data in cmos and you just keep banging your head against the wall... Happened to me :)



So is it so then, BETA BIOS v1006 cannot be flashed with any version of Afudos? I was told by many ASUS BETA testers not to use Live Update cause of some sort of curruption like in 907. Somebody confirm?

Yes i read that on asus forums too, after flashing it with asus update :D It worked for me, flawlessly (but i only tested it for a day or less) but oblviously i wouldn't do it again, better believe beta testers. Actually i didn't even try maximus bios -> MF1006 with Afudos, i only know that rampage -> MF1006 won't work. I don't know why i flashed in windows, i guess i got bored by flashing in dos :) Of course it's always better to flash in dos if possible.

Unfortunately i didn't know about S3 issues in MF1004, otherwise i would have testet it in MF1006. Actually i asked you about it but didn't get an answer :p: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2955618&postcount=4729

[Brama]

All right I changed the skew to 300ps on both channels, same timings, stable 32M.

Do you mean delayed skew?

[Nuckin_Futs]

I know it was mentioned somewhere in our forum, but I cant find it again. What Windows based app, not DOS, can display the RAM sub timings, mainly the trd so mentioned in here? Speaking only of MF BIOS, can can the 2x 2gb OCZ FLEX II or likewise from corsiar, be tweaked in MF BIOS if following same timings as Tony earlier mentioned, without the skew and specific trd? I tested mine with added NB v to 1.55 and it felt more sluggish and only got hotter, I reverted back to 1.52v. This is on my E6750 rig, the Q6600 only needed 1.53 max but also does OK on 1.52 w/ 2x 1gb RAM on the 5:6.

[beard]

Do you mean delayed skew?

I think he advanced it, as Tony did in his miniguide.

Every day i get more convinced that this board is like women, i'm glad i've learned to be patient with them...

[icecpu]

I got blue screen randomly when window is loading. Prime 95 stable 8 hrs small FFT and blend, memory test pass 2 hrs no problems.
What is the problem here ???
Anyone experience same thing ??

setting
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 455
PCIE Frequency : 110
DRAM Frequency : DDR2-1093
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control : Manual
Cas# Latency : 5
Ras# to Cas# Delay : 5
Ras# Pre Time : 5
Ras# Act Time : 15
Sub-Timing [3-35-6-3] [8-3-5-4-6-4-6] [14-5-1-5-5]
DRAM Stactic Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 07
Pull-In of CHA : (all Disabled)
CPU Voltage : 1.406
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference : 0.63x
NB GTL Voltage Reference : 0.67x
DRAM Controller Voltage REF : DDR2_REF +10mv
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF : DDR2_REF +10mv
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF : DDR2_REF +10mv
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[scottath]

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 455
PCIE Frequency : 110
DRAM Frequency : DDR2-1093
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control : Manual
Cas# Latency : 5
Ras# to Cas# Delay : 5
Ras# Pre Time : 5
Ras# Act Time : 15
Sub-Timing [3-35-6-3] [8-3-5-4-6-4-6] [14-5-1-5-5]
DRAM Stactic Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 07
Pull-In of CHA : (all Disabled)
CPU Voltage : 1.406
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference : 0.63x
NB GTL Voltage Reference : 0.67x
DRAM Controller Voltage REF : DDR2_REF +10mv
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF : DDR2_REF +10mv
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF : DDR2_REF +10mv
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2957836&postcount=4744

If i set my Crucial sticks to either of these settings will they work properly?
Mine are unstable [haven't done memtest - just in general - eg unable to install Crysis, blend Prime fails when small doesn't etc]
OR
If someone has my sticks [Crucial Ballistix 6400 2gb 4-4-4-12] can they give em a set of settings - as auto still doesn't work [see above paragraph]

EDIT: For the guy above me - What BSOD? [ERROR CODE 0x00000xxx or any particular files?]

[masska]

I got blue screen randomly when window is loading. Prime 95 stable 8 hrs small FFT and blend, memory test pass 2 hrs no problems.
What is the problem here ???
Anyone experience same thing ??

setting
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 455
PCIE Frequency : 110
DRAM Frequency : DDR2-1093
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control : Manual
Cas# Latency : 5
Ras# to Cas# Delay : 5
Ras# Pre Time : 5
Ras# Act Time : 15
Sub-Timing [3-35-6-3] [8-3-5-4-6-4-6] [14-5-1-5-5]
DRAM Stactic Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 07
Pull-In of CHA : (all Disabled)
CPU Voltage : 1.406
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference : 0.63x
NB GTL Voltage Reference : 0.67x
DRAM Controller Voltage REF : DDR2_REF +10mv
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF : DDR2_REF +10mv
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF : DDR2_REF +10mv
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

I had some issues with getting stable OC, random blues and no post at all sometimes. I'm pretty sure it was the ram and timings. I eventually got stable with the settings bellow, with the maximus I found leaving as much as possible on auto worked the best. But I also think this mobo is very fussy with ram and in particular with the Ballistixs.
My Bios v1004 Settings

Ai Overclock Tuner: [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up: [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control: [9]
FSB Frequency: [400]
FSB Strap to North Bridge: [400M]
PCIE Frequency: [100]
DRAM Frequency: [800]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
CAS# Latency: [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
RAS# To Ras# Delay: [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time: [Auto]
Write Recovery Time: [Auto]
Read To Precharge Time: [Auto]
Read To Write Delay(S/D): [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(S): [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(D): [Auto]
Read To Read Delay(S): [Auto]
Read To Read Delay(D): [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(S): [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(D): [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control: [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Auto]
Transaction Booster: [Auto]
Boost Level: [0]
CPU Voltage: [1.4500v]
CPU PLL Voltage: [1.6v]
North Bridge Voltage: [1.59v]
DRAM Voltage: [2.20v]
FSB Termination Voltage: [1.5v]
South Bridge Voltage: [1.150v]
Loadline Calibration: [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference: [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference: [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage: [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage: [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage: [Auto]
SB 1.5V Voltage: [Auto]
NB LED Selection: NB Volt
SB LED Selection: SB Volt
CPU LED Selection: CPU Volt
Voltimeter LED: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[Dostoyevsky77]

...mind sharing what you said to her? It's been almost 8 years now and I haven't come up with such an explanation (lie?). :rolleyes:[/url]

"We have already invested $X0,000 into [this/these] system(s). Unless we regularly maintain that investment, it will be the equivalent of flushing that money down the toilet".

The initial justification is harder, but it should go something like this: "I am going to the strip club with the guys unless you can think of a reason why I should stay home".

[masska]

if you'd botherd to research b4 making comments you would know that CRUCIAL SAID IT.

Engineers at Crucial have invalidated the compatibility listing for X38/48 boards. As of 3/7/2008 Crucial no longer lists X38/48 as a compatible chipset for their DDR2 800 and DDR2 1066 sticks of Ballistix Tracers.

Grnfinger I'm interested to know how you came accross this information.
I'm also a member of 'ocforums' and your name and comments are linked on my thread (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=5589307#post5589307). I'd like to know if there is proof to your statements, as I've been having issues with my sticks and do not plan to RMA them again.

[beard]

"We have already invested $X0,000 into [this/these] system(s). Unless we regularly maintain that investment, it will be the equivalent of flushing that money down the toilet".

The initial justification is harder, but it should go something like this: "I am going to the strip club with the guys unless you can think of a reason why I should stay home".

:rofl: thanks, i'll try those :up:

[masska]

:rofl: thanks, i'll try those :up:

beard, just interested to know how are you finding the 'black dragons' on the maximus, and what timmings are you using?
I've had lots of issues with the ballistixs and I'm waiting for the RMA. Once I get the new ones I'll try again and if they give me the same problems again, I'll toss them and try another brand...

[beard]

beard, just interested to know how are you finding the 'black dragons' on the maximus, and what timmings are you using?

Well, i must admit i'm not quite sure. They do ok @ approx. 1120, with auto timings, 5-5-5-18... Unfortunately i have to go no, will write more later. Here, spyrus (he's like pro in ram things) has maximus and geils http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=178828

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger I'm interested to know how you came accross this information.
I'm also a member of 'ocforums' and your name and comments are linked on my thread (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=5589307#post5589307). I'd like to know if there is proof to your statements, as I've been having issues with my sticks and do not plan to RMA them again.

The information originally comes from http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/notice_x38_x48_ballistix_tracers-11830/index.html

After searching the Crucial site myself I was unable to confirm this.
So seeing as I might have posted false information I called Crucial myself.
The only ram compatible with Maximus Formula is PC5300
This problem with ram dying prematurely has been ongoing since the board came out.

[trt740]

Well, i must admit i'm not quite sure. They do ok @ approx. 1120, with auto timings, 5-5-5-18... Unfortunately i have to go no, will write more later. Here, spyrus (he's like pro in ram things) has maximus and geils http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=178828

I have a set of Geil Evo 1gb x 2gb DDR2 8500 and they won't boot in this board faster than DDR2 800

. Here is my kit number GE22gb1066c5DC

[trt740]

The information originally comes from http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/notice_x38_x48_ballistix_tracers-11830/index.html

After searching the Crucial site myself I was unable to confirm this.
So seeing as I might have posted false information I called Crucial myself.
The only ram compatible with Maximus Formula is PC5300
This problem with ram dying prematurely has been ongoing since the board came out.

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Maximus%20Formula&pl=ASUS%20Motherboards&cat=

does not list Ballistix DDr2 8500 as compatable does anyone know of some ram that is for the love of God

[Zucker2k]

This right here is why you get a Maximus... :D

8x533, PL9 (no advanced ram tweaks), 4x2GB G.Skill 1000, 2.0v.

[Stelios]

And this is why you should buy a rampage ... :D

PL is 9 with CL5 memories ... and i can also use 8 when running at CL4.
Of course it can do more in my cascade . I have done tests at 590+ 3dstable . Spi can run much higher . :)

[Vixx]

This board has killed 4 sets (8GB) of Ballistix PC8500 since January, and that was running at stock voltages! Although I've been a big Ballistix fangirl for many years, I've finally resorted to trying other sticks in my MF/RF rigs.

Kingston HyperX PC8500 does 485 reliably and 505 with occasional BSODs, but I'm still searching for something else that will give me consistent performance and reliability.

[trt740]

And this is why you should buy a rampage ... :D

PL is 9 with CL5 memories ... and i can also use 8 when running at CL4.
Of course it can do more in my cascade . I have done tests at 590+ 3dstable . Spi can run much higher . :)

:shocked: still very nice. I have read the MF/RF overvolts the ram Everest says it overvolts by .04v is this correct?

[Leeghoofd]

Mine was even 0.08 as I needed to set 1.92 to get 2.0... ( all taking into account if we trust the readouts of the bios ) PLL voltage overvolted on my board with 1.2, FSB Termination voltage undervolted with 0.07

[Stelios]

:shocked: still very nice. I have read the MF/RF overvolts the ram Everest says it overvolts by .04v is this correct?

My Maximus extreme (ddr3) was overvolting vdimm about 0.07 . I don't know about Maximus Formula though .
Now , the Rampage formula (original & not modded rampage) overvolts about 0.02-0.04v

[ZenEffect]

mine overvolts ram by .09

why the hell is there such a variance of over-volt?!?!?

[Grnfinger]

my ambiant air is rather warm today 25c but the temps are not to bad considering , once the AC is back up and running temps should be nice and low.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3800.jpg

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.46
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Grnfinger]

Not much of a difference running PL6

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/pl6.png

try for PL5 next

[ZenEffect]

grnfinger, looks like you got your temps under control :-) good to see. i had problems getting pl5 w/o cas4 just fyi... actually i cant get pl5 without cas4. also i found that just clocking my ram up to 1200mhz resulted in nearly the same bandwidth @ pl6 but with slightly worse latency. you running just the pa120.3 or both rads? it seems that the voltage required and temps are pretty much EXACTLY what my cpu does.

[Grnfinger]

Just got the pa120.3 in at the moment, temps are decent now, even better when the AC is back up:up:
No room for a internal rad so I cant run dual, wife gave me the "look" when I suggested a new Mountain Mods case.
I'll have to get her drunk and try again
PL5 was a no post "det dram" hang, going to play with timing and see what I can squeeze out of 1133MHz PL6, if I can get Latency unde 50.0 I will be happy, odd thing is if I set FSB 450 and 8 multi the box wont boot I get
"USB OVER VOLT" computer will restart in 15 seconds....... any ideas on this?

[WFO]

Just got the pa120.3 in at the moment, temps are decent now, even better when the AC is back up:up:
No room for a internal rad so I cant run dual, wife gave me the "look" when I suggested a new Mountain Mods case.
I'll have to get her drunk and try again
PL5 was a no post "det dram" hang, going to play with timing and see what I can squeeze out of 1133MHz PL6, if I can get Latency unde 50.0 I will be happy, odd thing is if I set FSB 450 and 8 multi the box wont boot I get
"USB OVER VOLT" computer will restart in 15 seconds....... any ideas on this?

71-72C still seems high for that voltage and ambient. Why not run the 2nd rad externally with a rad box??? ;)

[Grnfinger]

Already doing that with my PA120.3 cant add another no place to hang it.
I have a Thermaltake Soprano case so room is not abundant

[ZenEffect]

i guess the best thing to do is take off the rad box and start making a water-cooling mess that takes up way too much space. then the wife will suggest to YOU to get the case :D

temps are about right though, you will see another drop of about 4-5c when you add the other rad. try 437fsb which puts the ram at 1165 pl6 1.481v bios (1.464 after vdroop) i was still able to get decent temps and the boost should reduce your latency to 49.7 or so. 8 multi required 333 strap for me pl7 only and clock twister to auto.


71-72C still seems high for that voltage and ambient. Why not run the 2nd rad externally with a rad box??? ;)
it seems grnfinger's and my cpu (sold grnfinger's cpu to him) run pretty much the exact same so i would say that the temps are spot on.

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for the tip m8 :up:

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/40.png

priming the new clock shortly

[ZenEffect]

Thanks for the tip m8 :up:
priming the new clock shortly

is this pl6 or 7? @ 6 i seem to have better results, but your timings are tighter :shrug:

this i am not understanding.

time to work on my gfx cards again... (has nothing to do with this, just fugger's ocz contest... check it out... PARTICIPATE because there is no better place that #1)

[Grnfinger]

its at 7 with pull ins enabled, going to test PL6 pull ins disabled, I find running with them disabled I get better bandwidth.
I have a nice 3870x2 here but NO water block yet, still in transit I guess, should have had you ship it heh

[ZenEffect]

its at 7 with pull ins enabled, going to test PL6 pull ins disabled, I find running with them disabled I get better bandwidth.
I have a nice 3870x2 here but NO water block yet, still in transit I guess, should have had you ship it heh

interesting to see how this is going to turn out. i just ran 21988 3dmark06 5 min ago... i wonder what you are going to get with the waterblocks. but also im clocked up a bit right now :D

i think i need 1 or 2 more fsb for 22k on 7.12 drivers... or perhaps go to 7.11 drivers (but dragon test becomes unstable :( )

ive been holding out for the next gen of gpus from ati... i can wait though because nothing out there that has come out has been an "upgrade" so to speak :mad:

[OVERK|LL]

Curious as to what's the best OC with stock cooling people have been able to get out of the Q6600? I'm at 2994Mhz right now, no real tweaks in the settings, and it idles in the low 30's, low 40's under load.

RAM right now is my weak link (667 stuff)........ and I have not tried to take the CPU any higher than what it's at.

[binormalkilla]

Trying to get my settings OCCT/Prime95 blended stable....I'm testing between 475x8 vs 423x9......trying to find that trade off between stability and performance.

What tRD pull-in settings are you guys running? I'm testing tRD 7 with the first phase enabled on channel A and B.....

Another thing:
Has anyone tested this value in conjunction with tighted tRD values?
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage :
This basically increases the voltage (in 10 mV increments) to the MCH without increasing the voltage to the NB, right? I can't seem to find a good definition of this BIOS option.

[EOD]

All,
There is a new Rampage Formula bios on the ASUS FTP site:
401 (ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/)

[Grnfinger]

All,
There is a new Rampage Formula bios on the ASUS FTP site:
401 (ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/)

Very nice find:)

[binormalkilla]

All,
There is a new Rampage Formula bios on the ASUS FTP site:
401 (ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/)

Thank you sir! ANyone tried yet?

[ChaosMinionX]

New Maximus Formula..... 1201

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/

actual link:

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1201.zip

[binormalkilla]

New Maximus Formula..... 1201

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/

actual link:

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1201.zip

Looks like the ASUS engineers have been busy. I'm going to wait to test the new Rampage until tomorrow.....

[ChaosMinionX]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ChaosMinionX/Capture-20.jpg

No real changes that I can see? Perhaps some 45nm clocking enhancements? I wont know until the Egg ships out my new X3350...

[XtremeTiramisu]

Great, that's exactly what I've being waiting for weeks.
Both 1201 and 0401 new bios are out for MF and RF respectively from the Asus FTP.
But I think I'll wait for Asus support site to upload the files with descriptions that states what changes have been made.
And please remember to share your results after flash to either new MF/RF bios.

[Vixx]

Damn! Now I'm really torn... I flashed back to the Maximus waiting for BIOS updates, but now I'm feeling the urge to go back to the Rampage BIOS. I'm running 1201 right now, (seems to be running smooth, but then again I'm only running it at 4.2 GHz) but will probably flash back to the Rampage later this week.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Is S3/STR fixed in new BETA 1201? I can only guess it doesnt work in 1006 since nobody would confirm. Can 1201 be flashed w/ Afudos? If only MF BETA's how can I know what my mobo uses at 480 FSB v/s the 450? What Windows based app, not DOS can tell me this? Is it showing a big real world performance difference if say I get trd of maybe 8 @ 480 apposed to 7 @ 450. my E6750 can only do 8x to et 3.8 w/ DDR1204, but my Q6600 can go lower to 450x fot 4GHz but needs over 1.57v, so I'd like to use same 480x8 for the blend of clock, and RAM so I can keep DDR1200 and 3.8GHz.

So with these hacked Rampage BIOS, if we can force trd to say 6 or 7 but at FSB of 480 to 500, is the system any less stable now, or can it be balanced out to work, and where at? Where in real apps use will we see difference of trd from 7 to 8 or 9?

[ChaosMinionX]

Is S3/STR fixed in new BETA 1201? I can only guess it doesnt work in 1006 since nobody would confirm. Can 1201 be flashed w/ Afudos? If only MF BETA's how can I know what my mobo uses at 480 FSB v/s the 450? What Windows based app, not DOS can tell me this? Is it showing a big real world performance difference if say I get trd of maybe 8 @ 480 apposed to 7 @ 450. my E6750 can only do 8x to et 3.8 w/ DDR1204, but my Q6600 can go lower to 450x fot 4GHz but needs over 1.57v, so I'd like to use same 480x8 for the blend of clock, and RAM so I can keep DDR1200 and 3.8GHz.

So with these hacked Rampage BIOS, if we can force trd to say 6 or 7 but at FSB of 480 to 500, is the system any less stable now, or can it be balanced out to work, and where at? Where in real apps use will we see difference of trd from 7 to 8 or 9?

Does anyone even use S3 on their computer? I certainly dont.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Does anyone even use S3 on their computer? I certainly dont.Yup, been using it for years, every day, throughout the day if is't stable. and of corse that's what I OC for in the end is a real world trusted daily user.

Also, Since I may be moving to ATI for the quality in HD, & BD DVD and media editing, what brand names are known to be top notch since there's no more "built by ATI"? interested in staying in area of 512mb+ GDDR4, w/ HDMI out w/ audio.

[scottath]

Has anyone tried the new Rampage bios on a non-rampage board? - thinking of flashing to the new one but want to see that it's fine first


Also, Since I may be moving to ATI for the quality in HD, & BD DVD and media editing, what brand names are known to be top notch since there's no more "built by ATI"? interested in staying in area of 512mb+ GDDR4, w/ HDMI out w/ audio.

My 2 Gecube HD3870s - standard version [not turbo version] have all that

[CaseMD]

i have a question about my e6600.
i get 450 x 8 stable, but when i get to 450 x 9 i didnt.
my setting in 1004 bios:
CPU Configuration

Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting [7x]
FSB Frequency [500MHz]
FSB Strap To North Bridge [Auto]*
PCIE Frequency [111]
DRAM Frequency [Auto]*

DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
Primary Info; 4-4-4-12-3-42-6-3
CAS# Latancy [4]
RAS# To CAS# Delay [4]
RAS# Precharge [4]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To RAS# Dlay [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [Auto]

Scondary Info; 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read To Write Dely(S/D) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Read To Read(S) [Auto]
Read To Read(D) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(D) [Auto]

DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]*
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]*
Transaction Booster [Disabled]*
Relax Level [0]*
------------------------------------------
CPU Voltage [1.3875v] = 1.368v
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50v = 1.616v
North Bridge Voltage [1.47v]
DRAM Voltage [2.14v] = 2.245v
FSB Termination Voltage [1.40v] = 1.472v
South Bridge Voltage [1.075v] = 1.104v
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Refference [0.63%]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.63%]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [ Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5v Voltage [1.55v] = 1.584v

NB LED Selection [FSBT Volts]
SB LED Selection [SB 1.5 Selection]
CPU LED Selection [PLL Volts]

CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]

i have tried even higher voltage till the maximum. i cant get over 410 x 9.
can someone help?
Everything is watercooled, tried different relax levels. I tried a cpu voltage of 1,5 V how high can i go??

[beard]

CaseMD, add the info about your rig into your sig. It's very hard to help if the only info is that you have a maximus formula (EDIT: sorry read the edit in the end of my post).

You've tried higher voltage till max on what? I hope you're talking about nb, there isn't much else you can even consider trying max voltage on.

If you have a 45nm cpu like e8400, be careful, read the forums. I recommend searching for (warning) info about vcore, pll and vtt (called fsb termination on these boards) voltages. You can never be too cautious with these things :up:

I hope your cpu is not new and you know what's it's capable of, otherwise it's just obvious that it's a cpu issue - it does 500x7 (3500), 450x8 (3600) but not 450 x 9 (4050).

Don't keep everything overclocked, concentrate on one thing at a time. So change mem timings on auto (or just manually loosen it enough), pcie to 100mhz etc. Things like pcie are oc'd last - when everything else is stable. Btw, obviously you have good ram if it does cl4 @ ddr1000? It's the minimum @ fsb500 (and is set on auto).

I've been trying to find good settings wor a week, many hours a day. I'm getting really tired of it, something's not right, but i just have to do it, 1 thing at a time ;)


Has anyone tried the new Rampage bios on a non-rampage board? - thinking of flashing to the new one but want to see that it's fine first


What do you mean by fine? Like if pc boots? I'm pretty sure it will :) Well i can be your guinea pig ;)

EDIT: Oh man i only now noticed you have an e6600. So, your e6600 hit 4+ ghz on some other board?

[scottath]

What do you mean by fine? Like if pc boots? I'm pretty sure it will :) Well i can be your guinea pig ;)

Thanks - basically what you said - does it work?:)

[CaseMD]

beard: Thanx for the answer.
My Rig: Max Form 1004 bios, asus 8800 gts (g80), Ram: a-data vitesta extreme edition 2gb DDR2-800CL4, 2 x RaptorX Raid 0 and a WD6400 AAKS.

Watercooled with: CPU: Aquacomputer Cuplex XT di, NB and SB Twinplex XT, MOSFET: 2 x EK waterblock, for the Raptors: Silentstar HD dual, for the 8800GTS i have a HEATKILLER® GPU-X² 8800.

I have an ANTEC Phantom 500w

Now for the settings:
The pcie is on 100 and losent my dram settings to 5-5-5-18. on 2.1 V

Maybe its just the E6600. Havent overclocked him till now. So its my first attempt for overclocking.
I have read the whole thread and i am aware of the possibility to fry my hardware.
on CPU my max. Voltage was 1.52, for PLL 1.6 Dram 2.1, FSB 1.46, SB 1.1, SB1.5 1.55.
on 8 x i get into windows till a fsb of 480 but didnt get it ooct stable.
i managed to get 9 x 410 fsb but also not stable in occt or orthos.
Northbridge: 1.49 V
i´m sorry for my bad english and noob questions but i am stuck here for 4 days now.

[sesion]

I have one of the first Maximus Formula SE as I bought it right after they got released, using the Rampage bios 0308 and overclocking isn't that much of an issue, however no bios can resolve my problem and it looks I have a :banana::banana::banana::banana: NorthBridge on my mb...

Basically I need to set 1.57V in bios (1.6V @ windows) for NB to get a stable overclock.

When I setup anything lower then 1.57 (1.6V) prime blend will fail, however on 1.50V I did prime small FFT's for 8h stable, just blend fails...

Is this a RMA candidate? Oh and under prime: SB 49C / NB 56C

My current settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.28V (1.27 windows)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5 (1.63)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57 (1.6)
DRAM Voltage : 2.06 (2.16)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.2 (1.23)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 (1.070)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.87x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.83x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5 (1.54)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

[Leeghoofd]

i have a question about my e6600.
i get 450 x 8 stable, but when i get to 450 x 9 i didnt.
my setting in 1004 bios:
CPU Configuration

I have tried even higher voltage till the maximum. i cant get over 410 x 9.
can someone help?
Everything is watercooled, tried different relax levels. I tried a cpu voltage of 1,5 V how high can i go??

Not many E6600 reached 4ghz mate or only at ridicilous voltages ( that would mean over 1.6volts ) not advised by me to run 24/7...

Have you tried running 425 x 9 ? to get to 3.8Ghz ? I would loosen ya ram timings and disable static read control... a bit more NB voltage and you should be ready to go ... 4ghz that's something else...

[scottath]

My current settings:


- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
CPU Voltage : 1.28V (1.27 windows)


I Want your CPU - such low voltages - mine needs about 1.48v for 3.6 and it is a better than average chip - can you go 4ghz+?

[beard]

Thanks - basically what you said - does it work?:)

Np :) Yes, flashed it with afudos (rf0308->rf0401), works ok :) I think i'll stop flashing now for a while :D

[sesion]

I Want your CPU - such low voltages - mine needs about 1.48v for 3.6 and it is a better than average chip - can you go 4ghz+?

No, I can't because the temperature is holding me off. I am running 3.6 Ghz rock stable at 1.27-1.28 (its jumping between those values @ windows cpu-z) and I get 57-62C (depending on the ambient temp)

Right now I am running prime for 50 minutes and the temp's are quite high @ 61-62C where ambient is around 23-25C :/

(using lapped true120)

NB is 95% of the time at 1.60V, sometimes jumps down to 1.58.... DRAM is between 2.16-2.18...
http://i25.tinypic.com/mkj3oh.jpg

[Leeghoofd]

I have one of the first Maximus Formula SE as I bought it right after they got released, using the Rampage bios 0308 and overclocking isn't that much of an issue, however no bios can resolve my problem and it looks I have a :banana::banana::banana::banana: NorthBridge on my mb...

Basically I need to set 1.57V in bios (1.6V @ windows) for NB to get a stable overclock.

When I setup anything lower then 1.57 (1.6V) prime blend will fail, however on 1.50V I did prime small FFT's for 8h stable, just blend fails...

Is this a RMA candidate? Oh and under prime: SB 49C / NB 56C

My current settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 --> what does AUTO give ya ?
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled --> Disable
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto --> Disable releax level 0



Also set TRFC to 55 in ram settings... are you actively cooling the NB, temps seem pretty high... put a fan over it...

don't see why you should RMA the board... you are overclocking a quad here ( nice volts on the CPU mate) and most here OC Wolfdales.. way easier on the NB... I needed 1.45 set with my Q6600 for 400FSB... NB was integrated in the WC loop...

[scottath]

Np :) Yes, flashed it with afudos (rf0308->rf0401), works ok :) I think i'll stop flashing now for a while :D

Thanks - i'll flash mine when i get a chance.


sesion: What fan are you using on your true? I lapped mine also but have 2 REALLY loud fans on it - Scythe Ultra Kaze and a Slipstream

[beard]

Maybe its just the E6600. Havent overclocked him till now. So its my first attempt for overclocking.


i´m sorry for my bad english and noob questions but i am stuck here for 4 days now.

Yes i see that you are aware of voltages, they all looked good. I also think it's your e6600, after all it's one of the first c2d's. Well it does at least 3600 - that's a decent oc.

I like this forum because native speakers are tolerant, they don't start laughing at us. Well i'm not far away from noob either, and i respect that you had the patience to read and try things first, only then you came here with your problem. Real noobs are like i want everything and i want it now!

[sesion]

Also set TRFC to 55 in ram settings... are you actively cooling the NB, temps seem pretty high... put a fan over it...

don't see why you sould RMA the board... you are overclocking a quad here ( nice volts on the CPU mate) and most here OC Wolfdales.. way easier on the NB... I needed 1.45 set with my Q6600 for 400FSB... NB was integrated in the WC loop...

I've seen people here running 3.6 @ Q6600 (8x 450) with 1.4V on NB rock stable with low temps.. that's why I though my NB is a RMA candidate...

I have tRFC set to 55 (I have nothing auto @ memory timings)

FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 --> I belive you don't understand what this is and how it works. Auto gives you more ratio's to choose from @ DRAM Frequency... I am using 5:6 so strap 333 +it's more bw

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled --> Enabled gives me more BW @ Everest cache & memory bench...
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto --> Disable releax level 0 << why should I?

[Grnfinger]

I have one of the first Maximus Formula SE as I bought it right after they got released, using the Rampage bios 0308 and overclocking isn't that much of an issue, however no bios can resolve my problem and it looks I have a :banana::banana::banana::banana: NorthBridge on my mb...

Basically I need to set 1.57V in bios (1.6V @ windows) for NB to get a stable overclock.

When I setup anything lower then 1.57 (1.6V) prime blend will fail, however on 1.50V I did prime small FFT's for 8h stable, just blend fails...

Is this a RMA candidate? Oh and under prime: SB 49C / NB 56C



While your NB temps are not the greatest 1.57 volts on the NB is certainly no RMA.
4GB's will tax the NB harder than 2GB's and you will require more volts.

[sesion]

While your NB temps are not the greatest 1.57 volts on the NB is certainly no RMA.
4GB's will tax the NB harder than 2GB's and you will require more volts.

Befor I had 2x 1GB @ DDR2-1200 and NB also was at 1.57 (1.6)...

It's just going on my nerves that everything is set on lowest voltage that's available and only the NB needs so much @ 1.6 is already red color in the bios... and basically ive seen my NB getting even 60C :/

How hot can NB get? While I had 60C at times my pc is still rock stable, so does it do any bad?

[Leeghoofd]

I've seen people here running 3.6 @ Q6600 (8x 450) with 1.4V on NB rock stable with low temps.. that's why I though my NB is a RMA candidate...

I have tRFC set to 55 (I have nothing auto @ memory timings)

FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 --> I belive you don't understand what this is and how it works. Auto gives you more ratio's to choose from @ DRAM Frequency... I am using 5:6 so strap 333 +it's more bw

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled --> Enabled gives me more BW @ Everest cache & memory bench...
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto --> Disable releax level 0 << why should I?

Did you want to lower Nb voltage or not ? well go looser then on the memory controller... and I love to see peeps here mess with timings and co ... Can you tell me what that extra bandwith gives in apps or games ??? pretty much nothing...great for benching and co... it's either the way you run it now or another way...

You can put 10 boards to one another , each board is different in setup (meaning the little details or tweaks) so is each CPU... you can compare and try other settings but did the other users run it at stock like eg you or did they use aftermarket cooling... other ram... My Nb was integrated in the loop ( SE version ) and it never got over 50&#176;C at 1.65volts... did you replace the TIM onder the NB ? Most of us popped it and scraped that freaking Asus stuff off...

And I messed with Maximus SE from day one it was released, I know the board... latest bios however I used was 0907 you guys might be on later rev already or rampage bios... I ditched the board asI don't like boards that tend to overvolt stuff (CPU PLL, RAM voltage, NB voltage )and undervolts FSB termination voltage and it ate twice one of my Gskill 2Gb sticks... I sold it and the current user is pretty happy with it...

[sesion]

Did you want to lower Nb voltage or not ? well go looser then on the memory controller... and I love to see peeps here mess with timings and co ... Can you tell me what that extra bandwith gives in apps or games ??? pretty much nothing...great for benching and co... it's either the way you run it now or another way...

You can put 10 boards to one another , each board is different in setup (meaning the little details or tweaks) so is each CPU... you can compare and try other settings but did the other users run it at stock like eg you or did they use aftermarket cooling... other ram... My Nb was integrated in the loop ( SE version ) and it never got over 50&#176;C at 1.65volts... did you replace the TIM onder the NB ? Most of us popped it and scraped that freaking Asus stuff off...

And I messed with Maximus SE from day one it was released, I know the board... latest bios however I used was 0907 you guys might be on later rev already or rampage bios... I ditched the board asI don't like boards that tend to overvolt stuff (CPU PLL, RAM voltage, NB voltage )and undervolts FSB termination voltage and it ate twice one of my Gskill 2Gb sticks... I sold it and the current user is pretty happy with it...

No I haven't replaced it as I heard about troubles with taking off the radiator (his). And well my setup is air only, so I can't match your NB @ 50C at 1.67V... btw. more bw is never bad ;)

[eSp!s0]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ChaosMinionX/Capture-20.jpg

No real changes that I can see? Perhaps some 45nm clocking enhancements? I wont know until the Egg ships out my new X3350...

Changelog

[ 1201 ]
----------------------
Improve Memory compatibility

[XtremeTiramisu]

1.57v bios set for NB is nothing to be worried about. That's exactly what I need to set for my Q6600 G0 at x8 Multi, FSB450, 333 FSB Strap. Remember we're dealing with a 65nm archtechture quad here and not the easy peice of cake OC 45nm CPU. And you do realize that by lowering the multi from stock x9 down to x8 multi = more stressful for the NB and most likely requires more NB volt.

In my case, I had to set 1.65v NB in bios to get up to FSB470 * 8 Prime/OCCT stable. I've everything in my system air cooled, check my sig.
As a final note if you're using RF bios, the performance level that you set + AI Clock Twister from Lighter to Stronger on the RF bios will have a critical affect for your entire system's stability.
I had to lower the AI Clock Twister all the way from Stronger down to Moderate to stay Prime/OCCT stable using Performance Level 7.

Until we decided to ditch our Q6600 G0 for a 45nm cpu (in which case the mobo is best compatible and OC friendly with), nothing I can complaint really at this stage.
I'd surprised that if both of our board would still need the high NB volt for a 45nm to reach equivalent or greater OC. Until then, we can worry about RMA the :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty NB on this MF board for later.

[sesion]

1.57v bios set for NB is nothing to be worried about. That's exactly what I need to set for my Q6600 G0 at x8 Multi, FSB450, 333 FSB Strap. Remember we're dealing with a 65nm archtechture quad here and not the easy peice of cake OC 45nm CPU. And you do realize that by lowering the multi from stock x9 down to x8 multi = more stressful for the NB and most likely requires more NB volt.

In my case, I had to set 1.65v NB in bios to get up to FSB470 * 8 Prime/OCCT stable. I've everything in my system air cooled, check my sig.
As a final note if you're using RF bios, the performance level that you set + AI Clock Twister from Lighter to Stronger on the RF bios will have a critical affect for your entire system's stability.
I had to lower the AI Clock Twister all the way from Stronger down to Moderate to stay Prime/OCCT stable using Performance Level 7.

Until we decided to ditch our Q6600 G0 for a 45nm cpu (in which case the mobo is best compatible and OC friendly with), nothing I can complaint really at this stage.
I'd surprised that if both of our board would still need the high NB volt for a 45nm to reach equivalent or greater OC. Until then, we can worry about RMA the :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty NB on this MF board for later.

The AI Clock Twister setting runs best on AUTO here, basically when I change it on let's say moderated I can't pass prime blend... I might try giving the memorys more voltage but I doubt it will help....

How hot does your NB run?

[Grnfinger]

The AI Clock Twister setting runs best on AUTO here, basically when I change it on let's say moderated I can't pass prime blend... I might try giving the memorys more voltage but I doubt it will help....

How hot does your NB go?

Your running your ram at 1080 and cant set clock twister to strong without errors?
You either have some really bad ram or there is a setup issue.
At 1080 you should be able to run Twister Strong with Dram Static enabled for some better bandwidth.

[sesion]

Your running your ram at 1080 and cant set clock twister to strong without errors?
You either have some really bad ram or there is a setup issue.
At 1080 you should be able to run Twister Strong with Dram Static enabled for some better bandwidth.

I will give it some more testing but it looks like I can't use any settings beside AUTO. It's not a ram issue because befor I had 2x OCZ DDR2-1200 running at 1080 and same there, errors even on moderated. Now I bought 2x OCZ 2GB DDR2-1066 and same results.

http://i30.tinypic.com/fencjb.png

[Grnfinger]

Thats not bad actually for 1080.
This is 1200 with same FSB, I only have 2GB's tho

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1200.png

[TKC]

Hi guys, new RF bios 0401 is released ...

RAMPAGE-ASUS-Formula-0401 (ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/RAMPAGE-ASUS-Formula-0401.zip)

[sesion]

Thats not bad actually for 1080.
This is 1200 with same FSB, I only have 2GB's tho

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1200.png

Try using Strap at 333, that will give you more bw even if you run only 1080.

Have a look on my old 2x 1GB DDR2-1200 @ 1116 (Strap 333)

http://i29.tinypic.com/29eqf68.png

[miptzi]

guys, I've got a problem.

I Disliked the 1004 BIOS with Q6600....... unstable and giving me "dumping of physical memory" everytime
Tried to reverse BIOS with ASUS Update, and it does not work, Say it's problem with the file.
The DOS EZ flash does not take older BIOS than the installed....

what could I do?

[jagger333]

Hey anyone have the problem that whenever you plug in a usb (i.e blackberry, usb key), you get bsod with Rampage 0308? I've changed back to MF1201 and it was ok. this problem seems to only happen with rampage bios.

[Zucker2k]

Befor I had 2x 1GB @ DDR2-1200 and NB also was at 1.57 (1.6)...

It's just going on my nerves that everything is set on lowest voltage that's available and only the NB needs so much @ 1.6 is already red color in the bios... and basically ive seen my NB getting even 60C :/

How hot can NB get? While I had 60C at times my pc is still rock stable, so does it do any bad?

If you actively cool your NB, you can be stable at lower voltages; remember, more heat will need to be countered with more volts to be stable.


Man, it's not easy trying to make up my mind on which of my two cpus (Q600, E8400) to keep with these new bioses coming fast at me.

My E8400 at 4.5Ghz (prime blend, small ffts stable) gives me 19k+ in 3dmark06, and my Q6600 at 3.9Ghz (prime blend, small ffts stable) also gives me 19k+ in 3dmark06.

Decisions, decisions: Which one would you guys keep? I get better mem bandwidth with 8400 (9x500 fsb, 1:1 @ 4x2GB @ DDR2 1000 5-5-3, @ 1.80v (set in bios).

[CaseMD]

What do you think is better 8 x 450 or 9 x 400???

[beard]

9x400, less stress (voltage). More fsb doesn't mean faster system (anymore). 400 allows using better performance level.

[binormalkilla]

All right I flashed 0401 with EZ FLash, so far so good. Still testing between 423x9 vs 423x8. I can't seem to get the tRD settings to match the bandwidth/latency of the 475 FSB runs. I'm not completely OCCT 1 hour stable at 475 either.....I crash at around 35 minutes. I think my CPU is limited somewhere between 470-475.....I'm stable at 470 with tRD 7. I'm testing with enabling the phase pull ins....

[eSp!s0]

What do you think is better 8 x 450 or 9 x 400???


9x400, less stress (voltage). More fsb doesn't mean faster system (anymore). 400 allows using better performance level.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2919006#post2919006

[binormalkilla]

Has anyone monitored their temps via OCCT graph or with a similar app? It may be a sensor/BIOS bug, but I get these crazy spikes in voltage and temps.....
I don't see how the temp spike can be anything but a BIOS bug, as that's almost physically impossible....however I didn't monitor the voltage to the NB so I guess if the voltage spiked it's possible.....
The VCOre jump is really what caught my attention. 1.63V :eek:

[ZenEffect]

guys, I've got a problem.

I Disliked the 1004 BIOS with Q6600....... unstable and giving me "dumping of physical memory" everytime
Tried to reverse BIOS with ASUS Update, and it does not work, Say it's problem with the file.
The DOS EZ flash does not take older BIOS than the installed....

what could I do?

follow the instructions from page 1 to use afudos.

[ChaosMinionX]

Anyone get better results with Q9450/X3350 OC with 1201 MF or 0401 RF BIOS?

[Grnfinger]

9x400, less stress (voltage). More fsb doesn't mean faster system (anymore). 400 allows using better performance level.

450x8 is faster than 400x9


Anyone get better results with Q9450/X3350 OC with 1201 MF or 0401 RF BIOS?

I find 401 is a much better bios than 308, 308 had troubles booting my quad past 460FSB, now on bios 401 it will do 506 FSB, seems my volts might be down a tad.
Only need 1.36v for 450x8:up:

[ZenEffect]

sorry, i dont want to put up huge pics.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/bandwidthtimgings.jpg

i dont understand this. looser timings, same speed but lower latency and higher bandwidth?

:shrug:

*edit*

also has anybody tried the new rampage bios to see if there was a change in gtl control at all?

[Grnfinger]

401 RF bios is very good, I would flash to it.
If your comparing bandwidth to mine I was using a 8 multi not 9 so your running 400MHz faster
Care to share your 9x450 settings I was just about to start playing with that.
I have 9x425 blend stable 8x450@1200 ram blend stable, now looking for teh golden 4.0
My Dominators really like 1200 so I would like to stay there for 24/7 use.

[ZenEffect]

401 RF bios is very good, I would flash to it.
If your comparing bandwidth to mine I was using a 8 multi not 9 so your running 400MHz faster
Care to share your 9x450 settings I was just about to start playing with that.
I have 9x425 blend stable 8x450@1200 ram blend stable, now looking for teh golden 4.0
My Dominators really like 1200 so I would like to stay there for 24/7 use.

hmmm. seems 0308 has better bandwidth.

0401
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/0401.jpg

0308
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/bandwidthtimgings.jpg

same exact settings.

im going to re-test for stability here in a second and do some adjustments so ill put up the 450x9 settings in a bit. sorry, didnt see the 8 multi there.

*edit*

back to 0308. confirmed that it provides lower latency and higher bandwidth (not so much bandwidth as latency)

[CaseMD]

i think i have to get a new pair of ram...
what 4gb ddram2 is good with this board . (and maybe not too expensive)??

[binormalkilla]

i think i have to get a new pair of ram...
what 4gb ddram2 is good with this board . (and maybe not too expensive)??

GeIL Esoteria 2x2Gb DDR2-800 runs like a dream. I sold my 4x1Gb kit of Crucial Ballistix (board wouldn't POST with it on first boot without swapping some value RAM to set voltage) to go with these.

I know people have used the G Skill DDR2-1066 as well. I know a few here that run GeIL Evo Ones at decent clocks, but I wasn't lucky enough to get a good pair. I think newegg has the crappy batch ATM.


All right well I'm stable with the following settings 1 hour OCCT. I know some of you may be thinking that's a lot of NBV.....but it's needed with a 2x2Gb kit......I can't go any lower than 1.63V, and I keep a fan on the NB sink so it's nice and cool. I idle at 41-43 and load at 43-44.

[MrBeer]

Just converted my P5E to RM 401 bios

Seem there isn;t alot of bifferent between The p5e and the RM using the same settings







Asus P5E (Rampage Conversion)
OCZ 2GB PC2-8500 XTC SLI-Ready Edition (2 x 1GB)
Intel Core™2 Duo Processor E8400
Western Digital 500GB RE2 Enterprise-class 7200rpm (x2) Raid 0
ST Lab 2-Port Serial / 1-Port Parallel PCI Express Card
Corsair TX 750W Power Supply
BFG 7950 GTS OC
X-Fi XtremeGamer

[binormalkilla]

Anyone have random POSTing issues with the Rampage BIOS? I've had this since I flashed to the 0308....I was hoping that the 0401 would fix it, but it seems that it hasn't. About half the time I won't POST, and the board will hard reset itself (as in, switch the power off itself), then reboot as if it got the" overclocking failed" message. This is with stable settings.....happens randomly too.
Sometimes I even have to clear the CMOS to get it to POST, then save the settings again.
Anyone?

[cadaveca]

not that issue, but my maximus no longer supports ram speeds over 998mhz...no matter the IC's, DIMM size...just cannot do 1000mhz mem or higher now....


Sounds like your chipset voltage is a tad bit too low, IMHO.

[masska]

The information originally comes from http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/notice_x38_x48_ballistix_tracers-11830/index.html

After searching the Crucial site myself I was unable to confirm this.
So seeing as I might have posted false information I called Crucial myself.
The only ram compatible with Maximus Formula is PC5300
This problem with ram dying prematurely has been ongoing since the board came out.

Thanks for clarifying.After reading so many negative posts on the Ballistixs and this board, I'm sorry I ever bought them. Once I get the returns, I'm going to sell them off. Can you recommend a set (i'd like to keep 8GB) that would definetly work and OC with this mobo?

[binormalkilla]

not that issue, but my maximus no longer supports ram speeds over 998mhz...no matter the IC's, DIMM size...just cannot do 1000mhz mem or higher now....


Sounds like your chipset voltage is a tad bit too low, IMHO.

I have it at 1.65V........I mean it's stable in OCCT....I'll see what my temps are at 1.67V. LOL

[cadaveca]

PL7 w/ CAS 5...should be PL8...

Over 1.65v starts issues with my board(real, not bios setting). maybe check bios reading and see if volts go over 1.65v, and then maybe lower them(volts and PL, I understand you voltsd are high due to PL used?)?

[Renegade5399]

Hey guys, with my Q6600 I am having the over 440MHz FSB issue. 439MHz will be prime stable for hours at a time, but once I set 440MHz and up, it will fail Prime within minutes. Is this a FSBTerm volts issue?

[ghost_recon88]

Anyone had more success with a 45nm dual-core on the new Rampage BIOS? This thing is still taking .03 more volts to be 4GHz P95 stable then my IP35-E did :(

[cadaveca]

Hey guys, with my Q6600 I am having the over 440MHz FSB issue. 439MHz will be prime stable for hours at a time, but once I set 440MHz and up, it will fail Prime within minutes. Is this a FSBTerm volts issue?

or Performace level needs to be changed. My board requires setting disabled "1" after 445...446 never stable unitl that one setting is changed.

[ghost_recon88]

The 0401 BIOS for the Rampage is requiring more vcore for 4GHz Orthos stable then the 0308 one did, for my E3110 :( Might convert my board back to the Maximus Formula and try out the latest release for that.

[ZenEffect]

grnfinger

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/prime.jpg

you want settings now or shall i prime longer? :shrug:

this is on bios 0308 btw. i get lower latency and slightly better bandwidth with this bios. i could let it prime for days, the temp wont budge :yepp:

you NEED to hook up that other rad somehow! mount it on top of case mabye? one on back on on top?

*im rather disappointed in myself as ive forgotten which bios version i had when i could do the same speed prime stable on 1.52v :( *

[beard]

450x8 is faster than 400x9


You guys are right. It's the area where x38/x48 shines. Go for 450x8 if it doesn't require much more voltage than 400x9. I was first suggesting 400x9 because my nb requires a lot more juice for 450 than 400 (bad one)...

[Renegade5399]

or Performace level needs to be changed. My board requires setting disabled "1" after 445...446 never stable unitl that one setting is changed.

Yes, but I am running a Rampage. I am thinking it's a FSBTerm volts issue, but I am not sure. I am hoping someone else here has had this issue fixed for them. It's driving me up the wall!

[cadaveca]

So why don't you up FSBt and see what happens, and report back? :p:

[Renegade5399]

Well, because that's one of the voltages that can damage a chip. I am cautious about upping that voltage.

[cadaveca]

10&#37; is safe 100%, AFAIK... so from 1.1v on 45nm to 1.21, and 1.2v on 65nm to 1.35.

Anyway, you got 65nm, so not so much worries...45nm is defiantely something to play with with caution.

[karmounet]

Hi there !

Right, first post and done reading the 200 pages of this thread :)

The current discussions seem to be how you can reach the highest frequencies with a stable OS. My problem is currently to have a stable system with stock settings, and I hope someone here have the solution.

The (already seen) problem is that I have random BSOD under Vista and random segmentation faults / errors under Linux. I also have random Windows Services and apps failures (mostly "access violation" code 0x0000005 exception).

Yes, it looks like bad ram modules and/or wrong settings. Here are the facts :
- memtest86+ v2.01 returns no error (at least 10 passes, each module tested separately, etc)
- memtest under windows : no error in 5 or 6 hours (3 threads, the faulty memory region may not be tested because it is already allocated by Windows)
- OCCT : sometimes stable for 1h, sometimes crash in the middle of the test (code 4 in one of the thread or just a nice BSOD)
- stocks bios settings : 2x2Gb of G.Skill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK rated for 800Mhz, 4-4-4-12 (2T), tRFC>80 @ 2.0-2.1v, currently at 2.08v. Higher voltage or lower settings don't help, nor raising the NB voltage (currently at 1.4v).
- most of the bios settings are on "compatibility" mode (FSB @266, Clock Twister "Light", Transaction Booster Off, ...)
- freshly formatted and reinstalled Windows (with integrated SP1) : still errors.

My system was stable for 2 monthes (with heavy games like Crysis or Stalker running fine), then it began to slowly die. I've double checked voltages and temperatures (Everest, cpu-z, ...), everything looks fine. The only thing I've not tested is flashing to an older bios like v802 or to the new v1204 one.

The RMA form is ready, but I don't know for sure it comes from faulty ram modules ... could it be something else ?

If you need some details, just let me know, it's driving me crazy.

Thanks :)

C.

PS: I'm gonna test the ram modules on a Asus M2N this afternoon, and I'll test my system with 2x1Gb of Corsair 6400 modules. Hope it will help.

[CaseMD]

Is there a difference between the white and the blue ram slots?

[masska]

Hi there !

Right, first post and done reading the 200 pages of this thread :)

The current discussions seem to be how you can reach the highest frequencies with a stable OS. My problem is currently to have a stable system with stock settings, and I hope someone here have the solution.

The (already seen) problem is that I have random BSOD under Vista and random segmentation faults / errors under Linux. I also have random Windows Services and apps failures (mostly "access violation" code 0x0000005 exception).

Yes, it looks like bad ram modules and/or wrong settings. Here are the facts :
- memtest86+ v2.01 returns no error (at least 10 passes, each module tested separately, etc)
- memtest under windows : no error in 5 or 6 hours (3 threads, the faulty memory region may not be tested because it is already allocated by Windows)
- OCCT : sometimes stable for 1h, sometimes crash in the middle of the test (code 4 in one of the thread or just a nice BSOD)
- stocks bios settings : 2x2Gb of G.Skill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK rated for 800Mhz, 4-4-4-12 (2T), tRFC>80 @ 2.0-2.1v, currently at 2.08v. Higher voltage or lower settings don't help, nor raising the NB voltage (currently at 1.4v).
- most of the bios settings are on "compatibility" mode (FSB @266, Clock Twister "Light", Transaction Booster Off, ...)
- freshly formatted and reinstalled Windows (with integrated SP1) : still errors.

My system was stable for 2 monthes (with heavy games like Crysis or Stalker running fine), then it began to slowly die. I've double checked voltages and temperatures (Everest, cpu-z, ...), everything looks fine. The only thing I've not tested is flashing to an older bios like v802 or to the new v1204 one.

The RMA form is ready, but I don't know for sure it comes from faulty ram modules ... could it be something else ?

If you need some details, just let me know, it's driving me crazy.

Thanks :)

C.

PS: I'm gonna test the ram modules on a Asus M2N this afternoon, and I'll test my system with 2x1Gb of Corsair 6400 modules. Hope it will help.

First off dont flash to 1204 just yet, members at ocforums have been experiencing problems. I wonder when Asus will get this bloody bios right:confused: so many bios revisions still in beta just screams bad to me.
Now on to your problem, I had similar slowdowns and hangs with mine aswell and I noticed this happened arround when I installed SP1.It would take forever to boot and shutdown.I had issues with my ram and I know that cotributed to the other problems and maybe somehow corrupted the OS.
Anyway, flashed to 1004 and reinstalled OS and SP1 and now she runs great.
Just waiting on my ram to come back from Crucial, then I'm set. Oh and I wont be using the Ballistixs again with this mobo, (anyone wanna buy 8GB of the 'Red Ballistixs'?:yepp:)

[aussie-revhead]

My Maximus Formula hates my Ballistix too (fails anything over 400mhz), and the low end team extreem is a bit better but still poor (fails over 430), so Im on to my third set of ram with this mobo , fingers crossed.

:up:

[m4gg0t]

hey all this is my first post, i've been looking around this forums for a while now and just got my account activated.

My old Maximus Formula hated the Ballistixs i went through 3 pairs and finely the 3rd pair seemed to work fine. I sold off my Maximus Formula along with my Q6600 to my friend cos he wanted one and couldent find one. So far with my Rampage Formula the real retail version no Maximus Formula to Rampage Formula conversion that i did to my Maximus Formula for my friend. The Ballistixs were running fine @ 5-5-5-15 1200MHz 2.26V. haven't run Memtest86+ but im very sure that their stable and ok.

[karmounet]

Is there a difference between the white and the blue ram slots?

Nope.

I've just tested the modules in a M2N (Asus) with "auto" timings (something like 5-6-6-18, I guess the board can't read the SPD properly), and memtest86 returned many errors in the very first pass. However, I couldn't set the ram voltage above 1.9v (bios too old or just impossible with this board).

Fine. Time to use this RMA form ...

C.

[ghost_recon88]

My Maximus Formula hates my Ballistix too (fails anything over 400mhz), and the low end team extreem is a bit better but still poor (fails over 430), so Im on to my third set of ram with this mobo , fingers crossed.

:up:

Really? Then that might be why my CPU kept failing P95 when I knew it was more then capable with the amount of voltage I was putting into them.

[Dostoyevsky77]

My Maximus Formula hates my Ballistix too (fails anything over 400mhz), and the low end team extreem is a bit better but still poor (fails over 430), so Im on to my third set of ram with this mobo , fingers crossed.

:up:

I must be really lucky, then. I've never had a problem with my Ballistix! I'm on my second board, but still my first set of RAM!

[Gunlance]

My Maximus Formula hates my Ballistix too (fails anything over 400mhz), and the low end team extreem is a bit better but still poor (fails over 430), so Im on to my third set of ram with this mobo , fingers crossed.

:up:

I never had a problem with 4 gigs of ballistixs. I'm now running 8gbs of OCZ HPC PC 8500 at close to ddr2 1000. My NB volts are also really really low compared to some guys here. I'm only pushing 1.41 (what asus probe reads in windows). PL 5 or 6 I forget which one 5-5-5-15.

[cuke2u]

Guys, and gals...

Hi, when you are going on about the issues with Crucial Memory sticks, can you possibly make the distinction whether they are with the Tracers, or with the ordinary Ballistixs.

I do feel that the majority of issues might be with the Tracers and not with the modules I am using, and have been since last november, and it would clarify things a bit more.
Thanks..
Chris

[m4gg0t]

haha Dosto its me badboychris from NVIDIA Forums, we must be the lucky 2 then :D

[Dostoyevsky77]

Guys, and gals...

Hi, when you are going on about the issues with Crucial Memory sticks, can you possibly make the distinction whether they are with the Tracers, or with the ordinary Ballistixs.

I do feel that the majority of issues might be with the Tracers and not with the modules I am using, and have been since last november, and it would clarify things a bit more.
Thanks..
Chris

I have the tracers. I do not believe there is a difference between them and the non-Tracer versions.

:wave: @ m4gg0t.

[mazzy]

There is a new BIOS for Maximus formula, on ftp site, 1201 no info about changes.

[dimsdale]

Thanks for the tip!
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/
Maybe I'll be able to get my FSB past 444 MHz with this BIOS.


There is a new BIOS for Maximus formula, on ftp site, 1201 no info about changes.

[sesion]

When I set over 1.6V on NB I get some bios checksum error and the mb is trying to recover bios.... However when I simply restart pc it's just an overclock fail and need to reconfigure...


Anyone of you had such issues?

[ZenEffect]

When I set over 1.6V on NB I get some bios checksum error and the mb is trying to recover bios.... However when I simply restart pc it's just an overclock fail and need to reconfigure...


Anyone of you had such issues?

that only happens to me when my overclock is really REALLY unstable... like trying to post at 4.5ghz...

[MurderCityDevil]

hey i flashed my maximus to the rampage bios as soon as the mod was available, and i guess now there are updates available. Which one is the most stable for a q6600, as i'm having a lot of trouble getting to 3.8.

[ZenEffect]

hey i flashed my maximus to the rampage bios as soon as the mod was available, and i guess now there are updates available. Which one is the most stable for a q6600, as i'm having a lot of trouble getting to 3.8.

im using 0308 as it provides the best bandwidth, and my q6600 is rock solid @ 4ghz.

[xtclocker]

What's that on the maximus? Any touch that yet? http://www.clunk.org.uk/images/maximus/IMG_0983.jpg

[ZenEffect]

your pic isnt showing so i have no idea what you are talking about.

[cadaveca]

disables the CLEAR CMOS switch on back panel.

[kup]

What's that on the maximus? Any touch that yet? http://www.clunk.org.uk/images/maximus/IMG_0983.jpg

Internal CMOS clear. There is also the button on the back of the board near the USB.

[xtclocker]

disables the CLEAR CMOS switch on back panel.

thx

[kup]

It's the internal CMOS clear, not a switch to disable to rear button.

[cadaveca]

um, no kup, read teh screen print of pcb...or manual...

[ZenEffect]

cadaveca is right. it disables cmos clear button on the back.

[TAOTAO161]

I don't know what's wrong with my board, i reach to FSB of 395 easy, pass all the test OCCT+PRIME95, but when i go up to 400, no mater how much voltage our options in the bios i change, the board don't pass prime test - "SAMLL FFTs".

my config are:

Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [9]
FSB Frequency [395]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [Auto]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Settings

DRAM Frequency [790MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [15]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [Auto]
Write Recovery Time [Auto]
Read To Precharge Time [Auto]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Read To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Read To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(S) [Auto]

Write To Write Delay(D) [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Auto]
Transaction Booster [Disabled]
Relax Level [0]

Voltage Settings

CPU Voltage [1.537500]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.64]
DRAM Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.53v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.54v]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [Auto]
North Bridge GTL Reference [Auto]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]

and both spreard spectrum are disable
----------------------

any ideas :shrug: ?

[Nuckin_Futs]

I must be really lucky, then. I've never had a problem with my Ballistix! I'm on my second board, but still my first set of RAM!Me neither, I am on the origional early release Tracers of 2x 1gb PC2-8500 and moved through 3 ASUS and 1 Gigabyte, of wich 2 are X38 and 1 P35 based P5K Deluxe. If anything, it was currupted BETA v0907 that killed my 1st Maximus. Even an extra set of same in an older server P5WDG2-WS Pro (I955X). So is there a pcb rev to look for if for those of us who like them want another set? Mine are exposed cause of external cooling, so very easy to look later if need be. Just let me nkow what to look for.


I don't know what's wrong with my board, i reach to FSB of 395 easy, pass all the test OCCT+PRIME95, but when i go up to 400, no mater how much voltage our options in the bios i change, the board don't pass prime test - "SAMLL FFTs".Only thing I can gusee, is to try to enable Static Read Control. It is normally used for higher FSB but maybe it can help for mild 400. It helps level out the FSB to NB strap curves as FSB rises, so maybe you atre getting a black hole inbetween. Not really sure. Also, if those are actual working voltages, some are quiate high for such little FSB, especially the PLL and FSBT. NB shouldnt need more then 1.42v, and PLL of minamal of 1.612v (or compare what auto returns, and use the lesser), and FSBT to no more then 1.488v for the 400x9. Also try, manually set GTL_Refs to their max of each 67x/63x.

[ghost_recon88]

Man my overclocking isn't going so hot :( On my IP35-E, my E3110 could do 445x9 with 1.27 volts under load. Now on this board (RF 0401 BIOS) I can't do 445x9 with even 1.30 volts under load :( All my other settings are on AUTO. I've swapped out my Ballistix 8500 for some Kingston KHX9600, but still no difference. Does anyone have any ideas on what else I can try. I haven't tried higher then 1.30 volts because of my other board can run it @ 1.27, I should at least be able to do 1.30 on this one. I know all hardware overclocks differently, but .03 is a pretty big difference.

[aussie-revhead]

Thanks for the tip!
-
Maybe I'll be able to get my FSB past 444 MHz with this BIOS.

I have this problem also but I assumed it was my ram and have another set on the way (Team Extreem 1066 tested to 1200), yours should be fine I would assume so I would be interested to know what your fix is for this problem.

:up:


I don't know what's wrong with my board, i reach to FSB of 395 easy, pass all the test OCCT+PRIME95, but when i go up to 400, no mater how much voltage our options in the bios i change, the board don't pass prime test - "SAMLL FFTs".

I got this problem with my ballistix (6400) so I assumed its a ram compatibility issue and bought some Team Extreem 6400 only to hit the same problem at around 444 as above .

:shrug:

[Grnfinger]

grnfinger

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/prime.jpg

you want settings now or shall i prime longer? :shrug:

this is on bios 0308 btw. i get lower latency and slightly better bandwidth with this bios. i could let it prime for days, the temp wont budge :yepp:

you NEED to hook up that other rad somehow! mount it on top of case mabye? one on back on on top?

*im rather disappointed in myself as ive forgotten which bios version i had when i could do the same speed prime stable on 1.52v :( *

I would like to see your setup for 9x450:D
let me worry about getting it stable:p:
Going to try to install the Swiftech220 rad on top tonight, just made a cutout template today, we shall see how it goes.

[ZenEffect]

I would like to see your setup for 9x450:D
let me worry about getting it stable:p:
Going to try to install the Swiftech220 rad on top tonight, just made a cutout template today, we shall see how it goes.

the settings are stable... woke up and it was still priming w/ no errors... thats about 10 hours or so. unfortunately im at work right now so i wont be able to post the settings till i get home. expect a pm :)

[trt740]

See my sig, and read my POST. I cant say for sure it's the best, but it sure is nice for decent 1200MHz, But it can really benifit from good cooling. And the light show is awsome.


I wouldn't say that. If anything, this mobo offers the best your E6300 can get. It can make the cheapest CPU's feel good. for example, 532FSB in 1:2 gives you 1066 RAM. I think we have higher dividers so you can get more on less FSB if your CPU lags. I got that on my P5WDG2-WS Pro so imagine how this mobo will do. Those E6300's were quite the clockers when it came to high FSB, Almost all 500+. I'd stick to stable official v0602 untill we hear better. This offers the best of ACPI support at 500FSB and is more then modern enough for an E6300. I can only say BETA v1004 is good for RAM tweaks w/ 2x 2g kits and less vdimm, but S3/STR does not work, so it's a trade off. Do not flash in Live Update to these newer BETA BIOS as they are often getting corrupted. Use Afudos for safest results, or EZ-Flash for official BIOS.

cannot hit ddr 1200 can you give me your bios setting to give it a try. If you guys ever get your hands on some Trascend axe ram DDr1200 it is even better than these doing DDr2 1333 and alows a much higher FSB.

[OCam]

I never had a problem with 4 gigs of ballistixs. I'm now running 8gbs of OCZ HPC PC 8500 at close to ddr2 1000. My NB volts are also really really low compared to some guys here. I'm only pushing 1.41 (what asus probe reads in windows). PL 5 or 6 I forget which one 5-5-5-15.

Im stressing 400x9 ddr800 4-4-4-12 pl8 (pull-ins enabled) with only 1.36v (everest) on my NB right now. :up:

Cant seem to ever get it to boot on pl7 or lower unless I go to the 266 strap
, which my crappy ram cant seem to run stable at over 940 something :shrug:

[zlojack]

So far so good with the 0308 Rampage bios.

I think I've finally found 2GB modules that will do more than 1100 MHz! Corsair Dominators FTW. 4GB passes 10 hours of Memtest at 1122 MHz 5-5-5-12 PL6 and tonight I'm testing 8GB at that speed. This is on the 400 strap and CPU is at 421x9.5 for 4GHz.

Has anyone seen any differences with the new 0401 Rampage bios?

[NapalmV5]

updated to 401 from 219.. all good

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/

[jorgito05]

the settings are stable... woke up and it was still priming w/ no errors... thats about 10 hours or so. unfortunately im at work right now so i wont be able to post the settings till i get home. expect a pm :)

Finally went with your advice and Watercooled my GPU's on a separate loop, check pic links on my signature.

[ZenEffect]

Finally went with your advice and Watercooled my GPU's on a separate loop, check pic links on my signature.
nice pics man! great build :)
how are the temps now?

[jorgito05]

nice pics man! great build :)
how are the temps now?

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/jorgito05/Temps-1.jpg

[ZenEffect]

nice! :D from your pics, i understand you have the gpu's on the external rad? the external rad looks like it could handle your quad better than the internal. but then again i see space for a nice 120.2 rad right in the back of your case. ;)
now overclock your cpu! :up:

nice work again :)

[jorgito05]

very nice! :D
now overclock your cpu! :up:

Thank you,

I play with the OC sometimes, but usualy set it back to auto; Am afraid of doing some damage. Had it to 3.2 for a while running 400 1:1 on mem but when I would play a Blu-Ray it tended to flutter once in a while so went back to auto on bios.

cpu ratio:8
fsb frequency:400
fsb strap:400
pcie:100
dram frequency:800
dram comand:2t
cpu voltage:1.312
cpu pll:1.52
nb voltage:1.35
dram voltage:1.8
fsbt:1.3
sb voltage:1.075
load line cal.:.063x
nb gtl:.067x
dram timings:auto
dram static read:auto
trans booster:auto or enabled I think

[jorgito05]

nice! :D from your pics, i understand you have the gpu's on the external rad? the external rad looks like it could handle your quad better than the internal. but then again i see space for a nice 120.2 rad right in the back of your case. ;)
now overclock your cpu! :up:

nice work again :)

Can't mount a 120.2 on the back, my psu is a 1200w and it extends out of the case. It would be in the way of the fittings. next christmass bonus I will probably get the qx9770 with a new x48 board and ddr3, then I will build a better external cooler.

[ZenEffect]

Can't mount a 120.2 on the back, my psu is a 1200w and it extends out of the case. It would be in the way of the fittings. next christmass bonus I will probably get the qx9770 with a new x48 board and ddr3, then I will build a better external cooler.
i was thinking inside :D

[iadstudio]

Anyone tested 1201 yet?

[Nuckin_Futs]

cannot hit ddr 1200 can you give me your bios setting to give it a try. If you guys ever get your hands on some Trascend axe ram DDr1200 it is even better than these doing DDr2 1333 and alows a much higher FSB. For RAM in sig @ 2.24v (5:6 @ 500x8) (I cant get strap 266 to hold stable for 1204 at my 480x8)

DRAM Frequency: [DDR2-1201]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
Primary Info : 5-5-5-18-3-50-7-4
CAS# Latancy: [5]
RAS# to CAS# Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [18]
RAS# to RAS# Delay: [Auto] = 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: [50] = 50
Write Recovery time: [7] = 7
Read to Precharge Time: [4] = 4

Secondary Info : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay(S/D): [Auto] = 8
Write to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 3
Write to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 5
REad to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Read to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 6
Write to write Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Write to Write delay(D): [Auto] = 6
DRAM Static Read Control: [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Moderate]
Transaction Booster: [Disabled]
Relax Level [0]

Anybody have any luck with the 1200MHz divider when 480FSB (the 266 strap)? I cant get it stable. What area of loosening might halp? 5:6 on 333 strap is fine.

[CaseMD]

With my new ram (sig) i can get 470 x 8 stable.

my max. temp under load is 58. is that too much for a e6600??

[Nuckin_Futs]

With my new ram (sig) i can get 470 x 8 stable.

my max. temp under load is 58. is that too much for a e6600??That's very good for an E6600. I got up to 61c @ 475x8, but I know of many pushing 66c on certain rev. Mine hit 67c at 4GHz. Loaded. I had very early batch and it hit 501FSB and 4GHz so we got lucky. so I guess there're some lucky E6600's out there. And this was on an !975X P5WDG2-WS Pro

[masska]

With my new ram (sig) i can get 470 x 8 stable.

my max. temp under load is 58. is that too much for a e6600??

CaseMD, noticed that you're running BiosV1201.
How are you finding it?

[CaseMD]

i see no big difference to 1004. yesterday i tested 1004 if there is a difference in fsb and voltage but cant find any. (in that short time).
today i changed back to 1201.

[masska]

thanks, Asus is saying the 1201 has better memory compatibility.
Hopefully the 1201 wont fry another set of my tracers...

[CaseMD]

@Nuckin_Futs:

At what Voltage do you get 8 x 475 stable??

[aussie-revhead]

masska - what do you have your ballistix clocked to ? My 6400 errors badly at anything over 400 , so I got some team extreem 6400 which raised my clock ceiling to around 445mhz before they error badly too . I have some team 1066 on the way but Im starting to think my mobo is stuffed.

:shrug:

[beard]

Guys, what the hell is this?!


================================================== =
ASUS PC Probe II

Alert Log Report

Number = 35
================================================== =

[05.06.2008 at 06:27 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1.68 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:27 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1.15 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:27 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1.68 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1.15 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1.70 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1.33 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1.70 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1.15 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:34 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,73 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:34 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,14 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,73 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,71 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,33 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,33 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,34 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,71 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,34 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:04 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,71 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:04 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:04 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V

With both RF0401 (earlier) and MF1201 (later warnings). The last time i had to stop occt ram test because dram ref voltage stayed high for seconds! This is scary...

Please say it's a sensor bug or something.

Settings (MF1201):


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 08.0
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 447
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-895
DRAM Command Rate : 1T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (5-5-5-18)
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

(these are all bios settings, not "real")
CPU Voltage : 1,33125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1,60
North Bridge Voltage :1,71
DRAM Voltage : 2,18
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,40
South Bridge Voltage : 1,100
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0,63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0,67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1,55

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Earlier had weird drop problems with SB voltage (when occt, sb voltage dropped to approx. 0.5V for a moment), upped the SB voltage (and SB 1.5V voltage) and the problem disappeared.

These voltages are not final (most of them are more than enough), system has been unstable, after upping PLL it's been stable but these problems appeared. Too much PLL? Less is unstable though (crashes after 19min of occt ram).

[sesion]

Guys, what the hell is this?!

With both RF0401 (earlier) and MF1201 (later warnings). The last time i had to stop occt ram test because dram ref voltage stayed high for seconds! This is scary...

Please say it's a sensor bug or something.

Settings (MF1201):


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 08.0
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 447
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-895
DRAM Command Rate : 1T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (5-5-5-18)
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

(these are all bios settings, not "real")
CPU Voltage : 1,33125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1,60
North Bridge Voltage :1,71
DRAM Voltage : 2,18
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,40
South Bridge Voltage : 1,100
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0,63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0,67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1,55

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Earlier had weird drop problems with SB voltage (when occt, sb voltage dropped to approx. 0.5V for a moment), upped the SB voltage (and SB 1.5V voltage) and the problem disappeared.

These voltages are not final (most of them are more than enough), system has been unstable, after upping PLL it's been stable but these problems appeared. Too much PLL? Less is unstable though (crashes after 19min of occt ram).

Crap settings, im running 8x 450 with:

CPU PLL Voltage : 1,5 (1.62 real)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57 (1.6 real)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,2 (1.23 real)
South Bridge Voltage : 1,050 (1,100 real)

also try setting those to DDR2 REF

DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto

[theonlybabyface]

New Bios, Rampage-Asus-Formula-0401.zip

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/

[ZenEffect]

New Bios, Rampage-Asus-Formula-0401.zip

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/

already posted, and tested. 0308 is faster memory wise. :yepp:

[beard]

Crap settings, im running 8x 450 with: Q6600 :)

I know it's crap, you think i didn't try serttings like yours? And as i said, i'm aware it's more than enough. I've tried everything possible. Seems like adding cpu pll voltage is the answer for me. I was so stupid i didn't try it earlier (with these exact settings), i was staring at others' setting - almost everyone use 1.50 from bios. I'm pretty sure i'll be able to drop almost everything now. I disabled loadline calibration (didn't intend to use it anyway), seems like those weird problems are gone (30min occt no voltage warnings EDIT: 1hr). Better believe those anandtech guys about vdrop, i don't want to consume my mobo and cpu just for nothing, vdrop rocks :up:

[kup]

First post updated with new bios link.

[beard]

First post updated with new bios link.

Sorry, you're doing a great job, and i know i'm being annoying, but you forgot the new rampage bios in the rampage conversion guide :rolleyes:

[kup]

Yeah, just adding it now. I didn't realise there was even a new bios. I've been away and had some financial troubles so not been following the thread much but I'm still trying to keep it updated.

[aicjofs]

already posted, and tested. 0308 is faster memory wise.

Is it really faster? or is it that they just changed some of the "auto" timings to different defaults?


I have almost all of my timings set manually, but I did notice Tref changed default from 16383 to 3120 for example when moving from 308 to 401

[ZenEffect]

Is it really faster? or is it that they just changed some of the "auto" timings to different defaults?


I have almost all of my timings set manually, but I did notice Tref changed default from 16383 to 3120 for example when moving from 308 to 401

its faster. i dont use auto settings.

[aicjofs]

Yeah I saw your pictures a few pages back, but you didn't show any timings in one picture, which was the reason I was asking. Didn't know if you were on auto, or what.

I see the same thing too but it's very slight, the everest runs have a little play which is what I attributed it to the first time.

[ZenEffect]

Yeah I saw your pictures a few pages back, but you didn't show any timings in one picture, which was the reason I was asking. Didn't know if you were on auto, or what.

I see the same thing too but it's very slight, the everest runs have a little play which is what I attributed it to the first time.

i will update the pics with full timings etc when i get off work if you want more proof. the everst play was taken into account, 0308 is clearly faster.

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for the template Zen,
Going to test them shortly.

[Dynacore]

Installed a rampage formula last week, must say I really like the board so far. Got my E6850 running at 3,6 (9x400 / 1,42v) which wasn't possible with the P5N32-e SLI plus I had before. Of course nothing extreme, but my pc6400 OCZ memory won't even OC if I buy a separate dieselpowergenerator and hook em up to that.
Still running stock bios so far, thinking about upgrading but satisfied for now, maybe when i get some faster mem and a 45nm CPU :P
Does enabling loadline calibration function really drop de vdroop? Read about being carefull with it on 45nm cpu's. Also applied to VTT voltage I believe...
Dont know about my 6850?
Also wondering if setting the command rate to 1 could help improve some performance, some reviews say it's mostly totally stable. But I remember earlier intel chipsets didn't really like/support it.

Anyway, will be following this thread closely...

[aicjofs]

i will update the pics with full timings etc when i get off work if you want more proof. the everst play was taken into account, 0308 is clearly faster.

Oh I'm not doubting you at all, wasn't meant like that...I don't need proof just clarifying what we are seeing. i.e I notcied one of the 5 or so settings I leave auto had a different default which did affect memory performance, if you were using anything auto that could have explained the difference, but since you clarified you are on manual for everything I got all the info needed.

[ZenEffect]

Oh I'm not doubting you at all, wasn't meant like that...I don't need proof just clarifying what we are seeing. i.e I notcied one of the 5 or so settings I leave auto had a different default which did affect memory performance, if you were using anything auto that could have explained the difference, but since you clarified you are on manual for everything I got all the info needed.

i didnt mean it like that i thought you were doubting me. i should post the pics up anyways so its very clear to see.

*edited*

0401
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/th_0401revisited.jpg (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/0401revisited.jpg)

0308
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/th_0308revisited.jpg (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/0308revisited.jpg)
same exact settings in bios. you are right, tref changed :)

[Grnfinger]

Priming now while it sits on my desk, cutting up my case now for the second rad

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/40-2.jpg

[ZenEffect]

Priming now while it sits on my desk, cutting up my case now for the second rad



very nice. :)

but once again... bandwidth. what gives?
:shrug:
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/th_0308revisited.jpg (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/0308revisited.jpg)

im on performance level 6, no pull ins. for the $45 i spent on this ram, i got one great deal me thinks.

[Grnfinger]

very nice. :)

but once again... bandwidth. what gives?
:shrug:
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/th_0308revisited.jpg (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/0308revisited.jpg)

im on performance level 6, no pull ins. for the $45 i spent on this ram, i got one great deal me thinks.

I have PL 7 atm and running bios 401 so that could account for the bandwidth issues.
I will adjust to PL6 shortly, I'm trying to drop a few volts NB and FSBT

And I gotta run to Home Depot and grab some down cut blades for my jig saw, the up cut blades are leaving some burs I'm not overly pleased about.
Yes I'm too freaking lazy to file the burs down:D

[ZenEffect]

I have PL 7 atm and running bios 401 so that could account for the bandwidth issues.
I will adjust to PL6 shortly, I'm trying to drop a few volts NB and FSBT

And I gotta run to Home Depot and grab some down cut blades for my jig saw, the up cut blades are leaving some burs I'm not overly pleased about.
Yes I'm too freaking lazy to file the burs down:D

i see. im on 0401 just to test the differences between the 2 again. this time taking proper screen shots. the settings i sent you were done on 0308, 0401 is a performance hit. they probably relaxed some timings you cant set in bios to make the motherboard 2x2gig friendly.

[Grnfinger]

This quad with bios 308 dosent seem to like high FSB, 401 on the other hand will hit 508FSB on the 8 multi.
anything above 440FSB with bios 308 and the quad would not post with not matter what volts I gave it, now I have a golden 8400 chip sitting here collecting dust......to sell it or build another rig to fold or something

[Nuckin_Futs]

any body test S3 in any bETA afet 1004? And especially for the hack Rampage ones? Does the Rampage offer everything the Maximus had, such as auxilery probe headers to be detected by C prove II? Does it do anything better for the "Real world" daily used stuff like setting in PC Probe set up and monitoring? Since our Maximus had no eSATA or Wi-Fi, does it still show up in the hacked BIOS or just greyed out? Does it do anything for OS and software performance?

I see so much mention of RF bETA being faster. Faster where? What apps will show it's gains, "excluding" synthetic benchmarks? Can we see results improvements in transcoding as in autoGK DVD Vob/Ifo to Xvid compression? is it significantly less like minutes, or just seconds? Same given file and profile? What about quicker loading or RAID disc array and program start ups and entering and resuming of S4?

Does S3/STR work in any of the Rampage BETA's or finals for the Maximus? And before somebody blabs out "Who uses...?" YES, I and many others, actually use ACPI features and especially S3/S4. Here in the states, energy is not free, nore is our time or PC components, so getting in and out of the PC is essential for real world daily use. I have no need nor any desire to leave my PC in full throttle 24/7 365 days (if it last that long) for a higher core. I ask these questions as for myself and others, some of us will actually end up sing our overclocked PC for work or personal business.

[eternaljammer]

I just bought on of these boards today! Hmmm. I can't wait to check it out. I hope the Ups guy hurries!

[yobi]

new beta bios for MF 1201
ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/

[Nuckin_Futs]

Who has tested the effects of the Static Read Control in more depth? I tested just yested ay again but in actual aps in use for editing. and Disabled it. Now I didnt run any kind of RAM test to confirm. What Windows based app is best for checking RAM for read write and overall performance with Windos and apps? I did notice, not sure if it had to do with Disabling Static Read, but I got several Windows Delay erros and cannot save errors. I actuall just lost 1 scratch drive. I am now back to Enabled. till I learn more. Remember, I am speaking of FSB of 480 min up to 525. So is this something spacific to the FSB and chipset internal timings as a given strap? I am 333 strap since I can use 266 in this BIOS 9BETA v1004).


@Nuckin_Futs:

At what Voltage do you get 8 x 475 stable?? For the E6600, was somewhere close to 1.50 w/ PLL to 1.63v and FSBT to 1.47.

[masska]

masska - what do you have your ballistix clocked to ? My 6400 errors badly at anything over 400 , so I got some team extreem 6400 which raised my clock ceiling to around 445mhz before they error badly too . I have some team 1066 on the way but Im starting to think my mobo is stuffed.

:shrug:

I hear ya,memtest returned more than 400 errors for me. Played arround with timings for ages with these sticks and nearly did my head in. Are yours Tracers, I didn't notice.
These are the settings that worked the best for me;
DRAM Frequency: [800]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
CAS# Latency: [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
DRAM Voltage: [2.20v]

Everything else was left to auto.Ran and stressed fine for a while, then they died.I'm still waiting for the returns.Yesterday I was speaking to the guy from Crucial and after a long discussion about the issues these sticks have with the Maximus, he recommended to replace my sticks with 5300's.I told him 'no way'. He basically admited there has been a lot of issues with x38 and Maximus and that it was due to an incompatible bios. After all that he then went on to say that he would replace my red tracers with the black ones, as they have slightly lower lat. It doesnt make any sense to me because on their website specs, they are both the same.
Also just before mine RIPIECES, did a validation http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=349653 (check out slot 3).
Something dodgy going on here:up:

[ZenEffect]

This quad with bios 308 dosent seem to like high FSB, 401 on the other hand will hit 508FSB on the 8 multi.
anything above 440FSB with bios 308 and the quad would not post with not matter what volts I gave it, now I have a golden 8400 chip sitting here collecting dust......to sell it or build another rig to fold or something

hmm. 0308 wont do 477 on my rig... perhaps i should give 0401 another try.

[Grnfinger]

hmm. 0308 wont do 477 on my rig... perhaps i should give 0401 another try.

I find 401 ALOT better bios than 308, I might toss my 8400 back in for fun tonight and see what the max is, I'll compare bandwidth shortly.
seems I might be a few inches short of tubing:mad:

[ghost_recon88]

So clock for clock BIOS 0308 is faster then 0401? However in terms of overclocking, 0401 is better?

[theonlybabyface]

i didnt mean it like that i thought you were doubting me. i should post the pics up anyways so its very clear to see.

*edited*

0401
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/th_0401revisited.jpg (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/0401revisited.jpg)

0308
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/th_0308revisited.jpg (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/0308revisited.jpg)
same exact settings in bios. you are right, tref changed :)


tREF is different in both examples though. That would explain any differences in bandwidth wouldn't it? :confused:

[cadaveca]

Makes 45nm quad FSB better, anyway.

[aicjofs]

tREF is different in both examples though. That would explain any differences in bandwidth wouldn't it?

That's what I was saying here:


Is it really faster? or is it that they just changed some of the "auto" timings to different defaults?


I have almost all of my timings set manually, but I did notice Tref changed default from 16383 to 3120 for example when moving from 308 to 401


However I used memset to change it back and it still wasn't quite as fast as before. Should have Zen change his Tref back and see his results.

[chawks2]

Not sure if anyone can help me out, but figured I would shout out.

Fridged my MF to take the stock cooler off, but in the process appears to have killed PCIe_1. Video card stock fan stays at high speed, SB & NB volt leds are all lit for approximately 15s. Board appears to post properly, but no video.

Does anyone have any "technical documents" OR could point me in a direction to determine where the problem resides? PCIe_2 works with no issue.

Tried the following:

1. Flashed back to MF.
2. Reset CMOS
3. Pulled battery.
4. Flashed back to MR.
5. <suggestions plz>

[ZenEffect]

Not sure if anyone can help me out, but figured I would shout out.

Fridged my MF to take the stock cooler off, but in the process appears to have killed PCIe_1. Video card stock fan stays at high speed, SB & NB volt leds are all lit for approximately 15s. Board appears to post properly, but no video.

Does anyone have any "technical documents" OR could point me in a direction to determine where the problem resides? PCIe_2 works with no issue.

Tried the following:

1. Flashed back to MF.
2. Reset CMOS
3. Pulled battery.
4. Flashed back to MR.
5. <suggestions plz>

are you sure there is no condensation in the slot? give it a good over with a hair drier to make sure its completely dry.

[jVIDIA]

very nice. :)

but once again... bandwidth. what gives?
:shrug:
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/th_0308revisited.jpg (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/0308revisited.jpg)

im on performance level 6, no pull ins. for the $45 i spent on this ram, i got one great deal me thinks.

What's your voltages on this timmings ?

[Renegade5399]

Well all his "timmings" (spelled timings) are listed there. Not sure about the voltage though.

[jVIDIA]

No voltages my friend ;)