The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[dimsdale]

Talonman,
The error message you are seeing is NOT a BS message.
I often get that message when I'm pushing a new overclock of the CPU or memory that isn't stable.

Seems like the four levels of stability are:
1. POSTing
2. Passing Boot Manager
3. Completely loading OS
4. Stability testing with OCCT/prime95.

When I've had the boot manager failure, as you have, I might make a tweak to get into the OS, but then the PC would BSOD or not be stable.

About the USB thing, I've had my Formula hang on POST in the initializing USB portion of the process. In my limited experience, that was an issue of too little CPU volts on an extreme overclock (4GHz).

I don't know what you CPU volts are, but you might considering increasing that.

[Talonman]

Thanks for the info.. :)

[dimsdale]

Thanks for the info.. :)

Sure. I think the Boot Manager really is checking a checksum of some files. If your rig is so unstable that a checksum under no load can't be calculated right, you are super-duper unstable.

[Talonman]

That would be me.... :)

[Zucker2k]

My Q9450 is behaving a little differently. I am able to get 450x8, but it's unstable with vcore @ 1.325, but it does boot and get into the OS, so there is promise. However, I have noticed when the "Common Performance Level" is set to 7 the mobo DOES NOT respond and comes back with "overclocking failed".

Following GrnFingrs settings, the only way I can use the "Common Performance Level" @ 7 is if I set my strap to 266 and FSB to 266. I'm going to look around in other threads today about CPL, can someone tell me WHY I am unable to do a mild oc or even run stock settings with my Q9450 & CPL 7? What does the CPL buy me? Thanks in advance.

what dividers and cas are you running at?

[dimsdale]

That would be me.... :)

Back up a sec.... You've got a 2.4 GHz proc running at 3.4 GHz... That's at 41% overclock! Isn't that enough?:up:

You do know that voltage requirements jump up very quickly when you reach those higher speeds? Going from 3400 to 3600 is an additional 5.8% increase in core speed and a much larger increase in votage. I wouldn't stress it.

[bummerboy]

hi, has anyone experienced rampage/maximus random reboot from vista, and the after countmem shows that time/date not set? it happened occasionally, and i just need to go into setup to set date, and it will be ok again. any idea what is causing this?

[trt740]

http://rapidshare.com/files/107481955/RF0308.rar

do i have to flash it differently since it's at .rar file. i'm getting bios is a different size error.

[Xilikon]

do i have to flash it differently since it's at .rar file. i'm getting bios is a different size error.


It's zipped with a rar format. Use winrar to unrar it and in it, you will see a ROM file.

[theonlybabyface]

Much better bios for me than 219. Posts faster, detects HD's almost instantly and still overclocks great. :)

[chawks2]

what dividers and cas are you running at?
cas 5/1:1. It's the only divider I have tried so far. Got some good Team RAM (3-3-3-8) in hopes of breaking the FSB barrier problems w/the Q9450.

[Talonman]

This is the part that defies logic to me...

I just primed mix blend error free for 30 minutes with a 385 FSB frequency...

CPU voltage - 1.50v
NB 1.58
SB 1.57

My system tells me that my memory is operating in Single Channel, non EEC mode. (This is dual channel ram) ?

If I move my FSB to 390, even with taking all my voltages up a tad, or allot, results in my stated problems.

It just dosen't seem right, especially knowing that I was running at 3.8 with less volts.

I am not sure if this is an issue or not, but everest reports my:
+3.3 is at 3.20v
+5v Standby is at 4.85v

The reason I want my 3.8GHz back is I am thinking 3.4GHz might actually be a bottleneck to my GX2. My current 3DMark06 score is 17,500. The bous running at 3.8GHz are getting 20K scores. I think my GX2 could actually put the extra MHz to good use.

I have my FRAPS scores on various games taken at 3.4GHz.
If I ever got my 3.8GHz back, I wanted to run FRAPS again to see how much my FPS would increase...

I guess I could stick with 3.4, but 3.8 or 3.9 would be fun on my water cooled rig. ;)

[kup]

Much better bios for me than 219. Posts faster, detects HD's almost instantly and still overclocks great. :)

Same here. Everything is far far far more responsive with 0308!

[Zucker2k]

cas 5/1:1. It's the only divider I have tried so far. Got some good Team RAM (3-3-3-8) in hopes of breaking the FSB barrier problems w/the Q9450.

Got Team here too, mine are the Cas 4 Teams :D.

This is what you should do run Cas 4. Those Teams are rated up to 2.2v right? Run these

Primary: 4-4-4-4-2-20-3-2

Secondary: 7-2-5-4-6-4-6

Tertiary: 12-5-1-5-5

Give it all 2.2v

I'm currently running 8x475 (Q6600) 1:1 with Cas 4 and settings above. NB at 1.65v CPL 7 (manually set, all pins disabled).

[hutkikz]

My system tells me that my memory is operating in Single Channel, non EEC mode. (This is dual channel ram) ? ;)

You have to have 2 sticks to run in dual channel

[dimsdale]

The reason I want my 3.8GHz back...

I forgot...why did you lose your 3.8GHz? Was it just inserting a different video card and nothing else?

[dimsdale]

Later this summer I plan on throwing some money @ an X48 board, some DDR3, and a decent water cooling kit, then I'll push for more.

You would have some improvement there, but why not just wait another few months and get a Nehalem cpu and drop the whole north bridge. In those extra few months, DDR3 will probably get a bit faster anyway.

[Sources]

One other thing is I have that annoying red X on my internet connection when I first boot into windows for about 1 minute. Last time this happend t me it was a sound card issue. Using the device manager, I de-installed my "High Definition Audio Device", and re-boot. Windows adds it right back in telling me it installed correctly. If I right click on the "High Definition Audio Device", and select properties/ Driver, and Update driver, and search the net, it responds with "Windows has determined the driver software for your device is up to date".

The X remains for about 1 minute, after the desktop appears on every re-boot. (I think the system is trying to resolve a network driver conflict, then gives up.) ??

I don't know if a funky soundcard driver could be hampering my OC'ing efforts?

No problem initializing the USB Controller though...


This is a Vista only problem. I remember reading something about it in another forum.

[Sources]

I forgot...why did you lose your 3.8GHz? Was it just inserting a different video card and nothing else?

ya he had the problem after going to the GX2

[Xilikon]

I have the same red X on the network connection for 1 minute then it works ok. It's a Vista issue indeed.

[chawks2]

Primary: 4-4-4-4-2-20-3-2

Secondary: 7-2-5-4-6-4-6

Tertiary: 12-5-1-5-5

Give it all 2.2v


Will post results soon. Thanks Z! :up:

[famich]

I have flashed about 1 week ago and the mod works perfectly.I m running old Q6600 here, but was abel to run 475 FSB with this quad on teh new "Rampage", it was not possible before -kudos..

[dimsdale]

I have the same red X on the network connection for 1 minute then it works ok. It's a Vista issue indeed.

You got shome shizzle like Nero installed? I've noticed that Vista loads the network connection LAST. On a previous format, I had Nero, Creative, and a bunch of other junk installed. All this stuff would load first on bootup, some of it taking an amazingly long time, before the wireless network would get its turn.
Reformatted and lost the junk. Now the network connects pronto.

[Xilikon]

Nope, it's a almost clean installation of Vista. Granted the network driver is Vista default one. I should look at the right driver and try that solution (I lived with that problem with my Maximus Formula and my P5K-E for a long time).

[Sources]

Nope, it's a almost clean installation of Vista. Granted the network driver is Vista default one. I should look at the right driver and try that solution (I lived with that problem with my Maximus Formula and my P5K-E for a long time).

Aye it is 100% a Vista issue, but as I remember in the other forum it had something to do with a driver issue, but I cant remember if it was the network issue or change it to the other network port or something to do with the soundcard driver conflict... i really cant remember.

I'm going to look for that issue and post it here if I can find it.

[Xilikon]

Thanks... It's not a biggie for me tho since I can always let it run for 1-2 mins before working on it.

[trt740]

Same here. Everything is far far far more responsive with 0308!

308 makes my ram malfunction at higher oc flash back.

[Grnfinger]

I seem to have my rig (in sig) stable at 3774 GHz and 444 FSB. So I thought I'd post my BIOS settings (1004) in case it might give anyone else some ideas or if anyone cares to comment on any improvements I might make.

I went with the FSB of 444 because it allowed me to select memory speed of 1066. I can't even get to 1080 on these G.Skills without relaxing the timings. So I figured to keep it at 1066 at auto timings.

Looks like at this point these Core 2 procs are more FSB limited than anything else. Having a proc at >4 GHz probably means the proc is waiting a lot to get data in and out of memory. Getting the FSB from 400 to 444 did more for my benchies than most other similar tweaks I've made.

I tried to hit 500x7.5 @ 1:1 DDR1000 a la Nuckin_Futs, but I couldn't even POST with that. That gives me hope it's a config problem, not a massive instability at 500. Nuckin_Futs, if you're out there, would certainly be interested to see what you set to hit that 500 @ 1.1. Are you still running the settings posted at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2568733&postcount=2704?



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 444
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax : 0

CPU Voltage : 1.400000 (measured 1.38xxxx)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto (measured 1.61)
DRAM Voltage : 2.00 (measured 2.04xx)
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto (measured 1.42?)
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto


500FSB is easy on this board, seems to be the sweet spot for it.
Now getting to 525 is hard as hell

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4500_keep.jpg

[zlojack]

I can't get 500 FSB with a quad on this board...with a dual I could all day.

[dimsdale]

I can't get 500 FSB with a quad on this board...with a dual I could all day.

The CPU is the other half of that equation...isn't it. The North Bridge itself might be able to run at 500 MHz and the bus between the NB and the CPU might, but if the front side of the CPU can't do 500, game over. Correct?

zlojack: how far did you get in your efforts to OC the FSB for your quad?

[swiftex]

using 219 - any further comments re: 308 before i give it a go?

[Grnfinger]

using 219 - any further comments re: 308 before i give it a go?

for me its about the same, others claim its a faster bios but I cant see it, even all my benches are about the same, reloaded 219 and timed my boot, then flashed back to 308 and timed my boot, 219 was 4.6 seconds faster:ROTF: .
Try it is all I can say

[kup]

Only that it seems to either improve on or equal 0219 in terms of performance and stability, IMO.

[theonlybabyface]

Only that it seems to either improve on or equal 0219 in terms of performance and stability, IMO.


I agree. Much better for me so far. No harm in trying it either way. :D

[Grnfinger]

Only that it seems to either improve on or equal 0219 in terms of performance and stability, IMO.

Agreed, it is certainly no worse. Just with my hardware anyways there is no significant improvement

[kup]

Agreed, it is certainly no worse. Just with my hardware anyways there is no significant improvement

Same here really, but I'll happily take 10 seconds off my boot time... :ROTF:

[NLight95]

I'm looking at two 2x2GB memory kits.

G.Skill
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

OCZ Reaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289


Of these two, which one is recommended?

I've read some posts in this thread where some seem to be having problems with OCZ's Reaper memory. It's a bit cheaper than the G.Skill but I want to know whether those issues have been resolved or should I just go with the GSkill to be on the safe side.

[swiftex]

thanks gentlemen!

[Grnfinger]

I'm looking at two 2x2GB memory kits.

G.Skill
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

OCZ Reaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289


Of these two, which one is recommended?

I've read some posts in this thread where some seem to be having problems with OCZ's Reaper memory. It's a bit cheaper than the G.Skill but I want to know whether those issues have been resolved or should I just go with the GSkill to be on the safe side.


OCZ ram I find dosent clock very well, I think you'll find more will recommend G.Skill.
I have used OCZ ram and personally would never buy it again

[safan80]

Marvin, you have no need to be here, you don't even own the required hardware, so kindly keep your opinions to yourself. :D

Saf', if you feel this thread will split info then continue to post exclusively in the first thread. You didn't seem to mind the Maximus Part 2 thread. This thread was just to tidy up the findings and present them in a clearer way without trawling through pages of snippets. It will also be kept up-to-date with the bios files rather than have them scattered all over.


I did mind the part 2 Maximus Thread if Eastcoasthandle didn't make the post he did on the first page I would of complained. Let's face it if the user isn't willing to look through the first thread then maybe they shouldn't be doing the mod at all. you could always ask a mod to add the information you've gathered to the first post of the original thread. There's no need to split the information up. Your just looking for attention. Having 2 threads just makes it harder on everyone.

I don't want to look through two threads!!!!

[kup]

I did mind the part 2 Maximus Thread if Eastcoasthandle didn't make the post he did on the first page I would of complained. Let's face it if the user isn't willing to look through the first thread then maybe they shouldn't be doing the mod at all. you could always ask a mod to add the information you've gathered to the first post of the original thread. There's no need to split the information up. Your just looking for attention. Having 2 threads just makes it harder on everyone.

I don't want to look through two threads!!!!

Dude, if you don't like it, don't post. I'm not looking for attention, I was trying to make it easier for people to find the information without searching through 18 pages. I for one was sick of people asking how to do the mod when it was repeated over and over throughout the thread. This "Part 2" just highlights the information and makes it readily available to those who WANT to read it.

Like I said, if you don't like it, and if you feel this thread is "making it harder for everyone" then keep your posts regarding the topic exclusively in the other thread. :down:

[Stanley Pain]

308 makes my ram malfunction at higher oc flash back.

Flashed to 0308 using a usb stick + EZ-Flash, no probs.

[safan80]

Dude, if you don't like it, don't post. I'm not looking for attention, I was trying to make it easier for people to find the information without searching through 18 pages. I for one was sick of people asking how to do the mod when it was repeated over and over throughout the thread. This "Part 2" just highlights the information and makes it readily available to those who WANT to read it.

Like I said, if you don't like it, and if you feel this thread is "making it harder for everyone" then keep your posts regarding the topic exclusively in the other thread. :down:

Like I said you could of asked a mod to edit the original post of the original thread with your information in it and the problem would be solved.

[Talonman]

Final Report on my FSB limit for now...

This is what I know. Under Bios 907, this were my finding for OC'ing my Q6600.

Ref link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160606&page=6

"Recap of my findings:
So far With the Maximus and my Q6600 GO:
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.46250v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 414 giving me 3.7GHz with my 400 NB Strap.
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.506v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 424 giving me 3.81GHz with my 400 NB Strap.
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.51875v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 428 giving me 3.85GHz with my 400 NB Strap.
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.51875v (BIOS) starting taking errors 4 minutes into prime with a FSB Frequency 432 giving me 3.8888GHz with my 400 NB Strap.

I did successfully prime 3.9GHz with a FSB Frequency 435 for 45 minutes, but stopped the test.
For my system it requires me to set in the BIOS a CPU core voltage of 1.55000v's, and Everest reads 1.53v.
You also must bump your CPU PLL to 1.60v's.
1.55 Core and only 1.56 PLL would not Prime 3.9GHz error free."

** I added in a TV tuner card 2 days befor my GPU swap, and the system was fine. No problems booting, still 3.8GHz under 907.

I took out an 8600 GT, put in a GX2, and could not boot withought getting a CPU init hang on the LCD poster, right on the initial boot after the install.

I had to back down my FSB speed to give me 3.3GHz to boot for the first time with the GX2 installed. I did fight my way back to 3.4GHz, but no more. (Still on 907)

Now I flashed to BIOS 1004, GX2 still installed, and I am back at a 3.465GHz limit. Any more FSB than 387-388'ish will result in core dumps, Vista lockups, and sometimes not posting. I threw more volts at about everything I could... Took all the posted settings, and combos I could, Enabled, Disabled, and Autoed settings for 2 days...

Made no differeance... Thanks for everybody's help BTW!! :up:

I am keeping 3.465GHz for now until some new info comes into light. Until I hear from another Q6600 Maximus SE dude, who was running at 3.8GHz or faster, and plugged in a GX2, and still heald his speed... I think it's a limit of some sort right now...

I have no explanation, but there it is... :)

If I have to run my water cooled rig at 3.4, I turned some bells and whistles back on in the BIOS that I like... :p:

I also backed down the voltages to show how easy I can run with a FSB Frequency of 385...

It's not a bad chip! It's a Maximus, Q6600, GX2 combo thing.... :shrug:

Only about 45 minutes, but my stability is there. I have had no problems so far, and don't expect to... (Still on the good side of my 390 FSB limit)
For trivia, a Q6600@3.465GHz and a stock GX2 SSC = 17,775 3DMark06 points at default settings. (Only for the 3DMark fans.. don't yell at me!) ;)
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9547/3465ghzlk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Here is my current 1004 Bios settings for 3.465GHz, (With a GX2 installed!):

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 385
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-770MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Boost Level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.40625v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.54v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.43v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

I still love my GX2, but i'm not sure the Maximus SE does?

[kup]

Like I said you could of asked a mod to edit the original post of the original thread with your information in it and the problem would be solved.

And pester a MOD every time a new bios comes out, or every time a new snippet of info comes out? Or...I could just make a new post which can be updated daily without the hassle to other people...

Like I said, if you don't like this thread, leave it. I was trying to help people out and you're just :banana::banana::banana::banana:ting on that...

[ElEctric_EyE]

hey Zucker2K, weren't you running Corsair dominator RAM b4?

[safan80]

And pester a MOD every time a new bios comes out, or every time a new snippet of info comes out? Or...I could just make a new post which can be updated daily without the hassle to other people...

Like I said, if you don't like this thread, leave it. I was trying to help people out and you're just :banana::banana::banana::banana:ting on that...

you could of got it made into a locked sticky that you could edit. I like the idea of what your trying to do, but 2 threads were easier than 4 to watch.

[kup]

you could of got it made into a locked sticky that you could edit. I like the idea of what your trying to do, but 2 threads were easier than 4 to watch.

I'm sorry but I'm not in the habit of requesting permission to edit other peoples threads. Not discussing this any more.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Give KUP a break and take it easy safan80.
KUP has been a very helpful asset to the community for organizing and gathering all the necessary OC and bios flash infos. I would agree that we start a second thread becouse I also have being making repetitive replies to many people asking for an easy method to flash maximus to rampage thoughout the pages in Part I. Many new forumers are just too lazy to search through the threads for answers. I assume you've looked at Maximus Formula OC thread Part II as that thread was also started by KUP and he has being doing a tremedous job ever since. In the first page of this thread, Kup has given credits to The Stilt and many of other members who also contributed so I wouldn't care whether seeking for an attention was partially his intention. This is an online community afterall, who can say that seeking for attention wasn't part of his reason for starting a thread or making a reply?

I certainly would hope more people like KUP who can share his time to help others. If everyone only thinks for his own self-interest, I can imagine how hard it would be for everyone to OC on their own without everyone's kindly suggestions, tips, and bios templates.

[Maglin]

I flashed 308 the other day. Love it. Very fast post compaired to all the MF BIOS and RF 208 BIOS. Didn't notice any real increase in anything really. I did notice that you can't just use your old OC profile. I had to just manually rebuild it for it to take. But that is small cookies. I'm working on getting the Q6600 stable @ 8x450 before I start to try for 4.0ghz.

[Grnfinger]

At no time has KUP ever taken credit for anything he is not responsible for, he has always given credit were it was due.:up:
I still owe him for bailing me out on my bad Maximus flash to bios 903, it was KUP that found and older version of ASUS update would revert back to older bios files, oh and he didnt want anything in return.
Bashing the guy cause he is trying to make things better is rather counter productive imo

[trt740]

Flashed to 0308 using a usb stick + EZ-Flash, no probs.

Oh it works and I flashed it with ezflash but 219 lets my fsb run stable 24/7 at 8x 535 at 1.4v 308 won't and has trouble booting with my ram.

[kup]

Thank you for the support guys. It's you folks who inspire me to wade through the threads looking for the best things to add to the first posts.

And about the bios recovery thing, no worries dude, you'd have helped me the same! :cool:

[Talonman]

The OC Maximus Formula part 2 just got merged into this thread...

Check the link.

[Xilikon]

kup, don't worry about those who criticize your move. It's now moot since it's made into a fat thread but at least the first thread can be updated.

[kup]

Yeah...I noticed... Looks like Safan got his way...

Kind of screws up the idea of having the infomation easily accessible IMO.

[zlojack]

The CPU is the other half of that equation...isn't it. The North Bridge itself might be able to run at 500 MHz and the bus between the NB and the CPU might, but if the front side of the CPU can't do 500, game over. Correct?

zlojack: how far did you get in your efforts to OC the FSB for your quad?
The furthest I got was 450.

I sold my QX9650 on Ebay and I just took it out of my rig today to package it up for shipping.

I've slapped an E8400 in for now (nothing special, but it'll go into a secondary rig later) and I'm going to wait a while and try to get my hands on the C1 QX9650.

[Grnfinger]

well isnt this special
:shakes:
AND THE MAXIMUS PART 2 wtf

[zlojack]

WTH happened... did they merge all the threads into one?

[kup]

I believe so, yes. :down:

[XtremeTiramisu]

OK, I flahsed the bios to 0308 from 0219 using EZflash and no problems.
However, I do find the 0308 to be more picky in setting the right performance level and pull-ins config to eliminate DET RAM hang. I was also experiencing DET IDE hang after post but it seems to go away after I disables rampage formula boot screen logo...go figure. I swear I never had any DET IDE hang ever when using various MF bioses as well as previous 0219 RF bios. 0308 has being giving me a werid OC experience. Overall, I don't really see or feel any sort of an improvement over the previous 0219. Actually 0308 seems to be giving me a bit of trouble after FSB465 and I've a hard timing staying away from DET RAM hang if I set performance level to 7 or 8 with pull-ins all enabled. Whereas 0219 I could go up to ~470 with perf lvl 7 disabled pull-ins or lvl 8 with pull-ins enabled. As for Everest bench, memory bandwidth/latency is roughly the same in identical OC config. If some says faster booting or feels faster in any other way, I'd say it may be just a placeble effect...or maybe I'm wrong. If any of you 45nm OCers wants to start criticize my points above, let's say we're on a diff boat as I'm using 65nm Q6600 G0 if you havn't noticed that in my sig. OC a 65nm quad G0 will always be a lot harder than some of you lucky OCers with 45nm duals or even quads. The more I said this everytime, the more I feel I want to get rid of this soon to be a year old Q6600 G0 for the better I hope. But then I heard Q9450 *8 multi doesn't clock that well above ~450FSB and not really worth the upgrade from Q6600 G0 if it's presently capable of going above 3.7Ghz.

[zlojack]

I believe so, yes. :down:
Ok...that's totally lame.

[By0T0xN]

Kup you should start a Conversion thread over at Redline. It would be easier to follow than this mess.

BTW is everyone elses email goin nuts with notifications on this thread?

[XtremeTiramisu]

Kup you should start a Conversion thread over at Redline. It would be easier to follow than this mess.

BTW is everyone elses email goin nuts with notifications on this thread?

LOL here is another one for ya:p:

.....:down:

[Grnfinger]

I didnt have any strange boot issues with 308 but I agree, I see/feel no performance increase with it.
I also get the odd det dram hang, to solve it quickly I just change trans booster from manual to auto back to manual ( without making any real cange)exit the bios and its boots every time. I know it sounds lame but it does work for me anyway

[Xilikon]

BTW Grnfinger, did you have any luck finding the elusive BIOS 0215 ?

[kup]

Kup you should start a Conversion thread over at Redline. It would be easier to follow than this mess.

BTW is everyone elses email goin nuts with notifications on this thread?

Lol...I like that thinking... :D

And not even checked my mailbox yet, do I have that to look forward to? :rofl:

[XtremeTiramisu]

I didnt have any strange boot issues with 308 but I agree, I see/feel no performance increase with it.
I also get the odd det dram hang, to solve it quickly I just change trans booster from manual to auto back to manual ( without making any real cange)exit the bios and its boots every time. I know it sounds lame but it does work for me anyway

Auto for AI transation boost for RF bioses = Performance level 10 for me using 333 strap and 5:6 divider. Of course if just leave it at auto, det ram hang issue will be completely 100% eliminated but the bandwidth and latency dropped down rediculously low to ~9200 read from ~10000 read using performance lvl 7. So like you've said before, if we can set the exact right config for RF bios, it'd be a tad faster than MF bios But that's only theoritically and techinically correct if you don't care about the cost of stability or DET RAM hang for the extra performance increase. RF Bios is technically a tad faster than MF bios becouse of its finer tuning options but at the cost of stability, I don't really see a major advancement over MF bios. However we're comparing an intial released RF bios to a serveral revised MF bios so my hope is that RF will out perform MF bios in the future, but that's just my speculation atm.

[Grnfinger]

BTW Grnfinger, did you have any luck finding the elusive BIOS 0215 ?

I looked everywhere with no luck:shrug: seems no one has it

[ericab]

thread merge = :down:

[Nuckin_Futs]

Believe me, I know what it's like to not get any credit or just plain ignored only to have what I just POSTed relisted in different words. Example, I mentioned from the get go of origional tread, started by myself, that ASUS Live Update v6.10.02 back flashed and is XP/S2K3 x64 compatable. Most just complained that they dont like the Windows based update. I also dont mind giving advice where appreciated just like Kup. I brought up the idea of DOS utility, AfuDOS and got no feedback till months later.

Anywayz, I'm not here for the credit. However, I don't like to be dogged on for offering advice to one, just cause another doesn't like it, or set in their own world. There's many options.


I seem to have my rig (in sig) stable at 3774 GHz and 444 FSB. So I thought I'd post my BIOS settings (1004) in case it might give anyone else some ideas or if anyone cares to comment on any improvements I might make.

I went with the FSB of 444 because it allowed me to select memory speed of 1066. I can't even get to 1080 on these G.Skills without relaxing the timings. So I figured to keep it at 1066 at auto timings.

Looks like at this point these Core 2 procs are more FSB limited than anything else. Having a proc at >4 GHz probably means the proc is waiting a lot to get data in and out of memory. Getting the FSB from 400 to 444 did more for my benchies than most other similar tweaks I've made.

I tried to hit 500x7.5 @ 1:1 DDR1000 a la Nuckin_Futs, but I couldn't even POST with that. That gives me hope it's a config problem, not a massive instability at 500. Nuckin_Futs, if you're out there, would certainly be interested to see what you set to hit that 500 @ 1.1. Are you still running the settings posted at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2568733&postcount=2704?



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 444
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax : 0

CPU Voltage : 1.400000 (measured 1.38xxxx)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto (measured 1.61)
DRAM Voltage : 2.00 (measured 2.04xx)
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto (measured 1.42?)
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

Sure I think it has potential. I found that just ablut every Core 2 I messed w/ hits 500FSB w/ lil' effort (E6550/6750/6850) and even my m8's E8500 scales beyond that. My e6600 was the most challanging one to stablize @ 500FSB. YES, the old profile settings are good to start. Only change since then would be if going for 4GHz on 500x8 is the 1.632 PLL, and 67x NB GTL.


Back up a sec.... You've got a 2.4 GHz proc running at 3.4 GHz... That's at 41% overclock! Isn't that enough?:up:

You do know that voltage requirements jump up very quickly when you reach those higher speeds? Going from 3400 to 3600 is an additional 5.8% increase in core speed and a much larger increase in votage. I wouldn't stress it.
O.K. and this coming from a tread almost geared towards guys tightening their RAM to the gills and stressing that chipset and tweaking them GPU's to the max.


BTW is everyone elses email goin nuts with notifications on this thread?Oddly enough, I dont get anymore email nootification from my subscribed treads anymore. What happened? I have to manually visit subscriptions list often to keep up.

If anything, the RAM and RAMpage tread POST stuff should be sepperated.

[kup]

If anything, the RAM and RAMpage tread POST stuff should be sepperated.

Exactly my thinking. A thread for the mod and a thread for the board itself...

[rangerone7669]

question about DETDRAM
i get that error time to time for no apparent reason. i'll need to reboot from windows update, or when i shut it off for more that a few minutes. it just wont post, every time i try to power it up, it hangs at DETDRAM. pulling the battery does not fix it but it does reset bios settings. the only way to get it to post again is pull my memory and put in some kingston ddr2 667. i dont even need to change any bios settings. i just shut it down after it fails at overclocking(that kingston wont run at my oc) pop back in my ram it it boots up and runs fine. it only did this with the lanfest ram.

i just sent in a 4x1gig set of crucial lanfest because no matter what i did it would hang at detdram, even at default bios settings. now i'm running some adata vetista's with d9's until my axeram 1200mhz show up later this week.

i can get the adatas to about 1100mhz but any higher fails and hangs at detdram, but it will repost and just go to overclock failed. also with both sets of ram i've tried if i set the performance level to any thing but auto, it nukes my windows install. only thing i've found to fix it is a repair install.

does this board just not like d9's or an i doing something wrong? i usually just use settings people list as working on there q6600, which is what i have.

the anandtech setting work fine for 450x8 except
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
those must all be set to auto or i either nuke my os, or it just fails to post and i have to clear the cmos. i'm hoping the axerams will fix most of my problems as others have had great luck with those rams. altho the axe's use the same ic's as my lanfest and the adata's so i'm a litlle concerned.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Final Report on my FSB limit for now...


"Recap of my findings:
So far With the Maximus and my Q6600 GO:
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.46250v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 414 giving me 3.7GHz with my 400 NB Strap.
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.506v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 424 giving me 3.81GHz with my 400 NB Strap.
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.51875v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 428 giving me 3.85GHz with my 400 NB Strap.
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.51875v (BIOS) starting taking errors 4 minutes into prime with a FSB Frequency 432 giving me 3.8888GHz with my 400 NB Strap.

I did successfully prime 3.9GHz with a FSB Frequency 435 for 45 minutes, but stopped the test.
For my system it requires me to set in the BIOS a CPU core voltage of 1.55000v's, and Everest reads 1.53v.
You also must bump your CPU PLL to 1.60v's.
1.55 Core and only 1.56 PLL would not Prime 3.9GHz error free."

** I added in a TV tuner card 2 days befor my GPU swap, and the system was fine. No problems booting, still 3.8GHz under 907.

I took out an 8600 GT, put in a GX2, and could not boot withought getting a CPU init hang on the LCD poster, right on the initial boot after the install.

I had to back down my FSB speed to give me 3.3GHz to boot for the first time with the GX2 installed. I did fight my way back to 3.4GHz, but no more. (Still on 907)

Now I flashed to BIOS 1004, GX2 still installed, and I am back at a 3.465GHz limit. Any more FSB than 387-388'ish will result in core dumps, Vista lockups, and sometimes not posting. I threw more volts at about everything I could... Took all the posted settings, and combos I could, Enabled, Disabled, and Autoed settings for 2 days...

Made no differeance... Thanks for everybody's help BTW!! :up:

I am keeping 3.465GHz for now until some new info comes into light. Until I hear from another Q6600 Maximus SE dude, who was running at 3.8GHz or faster, and plugged in a GX2, and still heald his speed... I think it's a limit of some sort right now...

I have no explanation, but there it is... :)

If I have to run my water cooled rig at 3.4, I turned some bells and whistles back on in the BIOS that I like... :p:

I also backed down the voltages to show how easy I can run with a FSB Frequency of 385...

It's not a bad chip! It's a Maximus, Q6600, GX2 combo thing.... :shrug:

Only about 45 minutes, but my stability is there. I have had no problems so far, and don't expect to... (Still on the good side of my 390 FSB limit)
For trivia, a Q6600@3.465GHz and a stock GX2 SSC = 17,775 3DMark06 points at default settings. (Only for the 3DMark fans.. don't yell at me!) ;)

I still love my GX2, but i'm not sure the Maximus SE does?
In regards to your boot failure and messages, yes they are for real. It usually happens because Windows becomes damaged after many hard crashes and especially when crashing during an OC test liek we so love to do. I try to keep to safe mode for starters till I feel it can go further. If this doesnt work, try your last good profile and in OS, reinstall current inf, GPU and RAID (if any) drivers. It worked for mine when it happened.

You mentioned 907. Are you back on that now or came from that at some point? I had BIOS chip corruption when moving away from 907, no matter what version I flashed to. I has the very USB hang ups and lots of the det_ram hangs even in stock. So just to clear up, did you have the USB hang up in 903 and also was the GX2 installed then too? It may be worth a shot to try it. I am most interested to know, cause I really dont want another 907 USB and RAM hang up experience again. When I was on v0907, the few times I got to XP x64, I would even loose USB support, and RAM hang ups (frozen desktop and or video, requiring a hard reset. Sometimes, USB hang can be fixed by unplugging mouse and plugging it back in. but the whole experience was driving me Nuckin Futs up the wall. Lol!

[Factotum]

Thanks for this forum. I'm flashing my P5E in RF bios 0219 and get nice mobo and nice settings tested Linpack:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4762/my400x8screenoz1.th.png (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=my400x8screenoz1.png)

AI Clocker Tuner: [Manual]
CPU Ratio Control: [Auto]
FSB Strap for North Brige: [333]
FSB Frequency: [500]
Dram Frequency: [1201]
PCIE: [112]
DRAM Command Rate : [2T]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : [Normal]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : [Normal]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
CAS# Latency : [5]
RAS# to CAS# Delay : [5]
RAS# Precharge : [5]
RAS# ActivateTime : [12]
RAS# to RAS# Delay : [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time : [35]
Write Recovery Time : [5]
Read to Precharge Time : [Auto]
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : [Auto]
Write to Read Delay (S) : [Auto]
Write to Read Delay (D) : [Auto]
Read to Read Delay (S) : [Auto]
Read to Read Delay (D) : [Auto]
Write to Write Delay (S) : [Auto]
Write to Write Delay (D) : [Auto]
Write to PRE Delay : [Auto]
Read to PRE Delay : [Auto]
PRE to PRE Delay : [Auto]
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : [Auto]
ALL PRE to REF Delay : [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control: [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister : [Moderate]
Transaction Booster : [Manual]
C/P: A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 | B1 B2 B3 B4 B5
LVL: 07 08 08 08 08 | 07 08 08 08 08
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: [Enabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH2: [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH3: [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH4: [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH5: [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH1: [Enabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH2: [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH3: [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH4: [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH5: [Disabled]
CPU Voltage : [1.26125] :)
CPU PLL Voltage : [1.5]
North Bridge Voltage : [1.39] :)
DRAM Voltage [2.2]
FSB Termination Voltage : [1.3]
South Bridge Voltage : [1.1]
Loadline Calibration : [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference : [0.67X]
North Bridge GTL Reference : [0.67X]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : [DDR2_REF]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : [Auto]
SB 1.5V Voltage : [1.5]
NB LED Selection : [NB Volt]
SB LED Selection : [SB Volt]
CPU LED Selection : [CPU Volt]
Voltiminder LED : [Disabled]
CPU Spread Spectrum : [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum : [Disabled]

[CPU Configuration]
CPU Ratio Control: [Auto]
C1E Support: [Enabled]
CPU TM: [Enabled]
Vanderpool Technology: [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit: [Disabled]
Intel SpeedStep: [Enabled]

[kup]

Glad to be able to help, Factotum.

[rcjian]

Shoot! I thought I got lost here when I saw 174 pages. This is nice, thanks kup, you made it very easy for a noob persons like me, talking about the updated very clear step by step Rampage conversion on the first page. Thanks!

One question, Can I go straight to RF308 from MF1004? Thanks... told you I'm noob...:)

[kup]

Shoot! I thought I got lost here when I saw 174 pages. This is nice, thanks kup, you made it very easy for a noob persons like me, talking about the updated very clear step by step Rampage conversion on the first page. Thanks!

One question, Can I go straight to RF308 from MF1004? Thanks... told you I'm noob...:)

Sure can, just flash the RF0308 bios in the same way as I reference the RF0219 bios:


AFUDOS /iRF0308.rom /pbnc /n

That should work nicely. I'll edit this in the first post too.

[kup]

Flashing back to stock (proper) board bios now added to the first post. :cool:

[zlojack]

Nice work kup!

[bummerboy]

Any help from anyone? it happened again, despite being prime stable for 6+ hours.


hi, has anyone experienced rampage/maximus random reboot from vista, and the after countmem shows that time/date not set? it happened occasionally, and i just need to go into setup to set date, and it will be ok again. any idea what is causing this?

[Zucker2k]

Man, this is messed up. Guess we're back to noobs asking a thousand questions about flashing when its been covered a million times in this thread. I'm really pissed about this.

@E_E: Yes, I was using dominators but sold them on ebay. They were great with this board but I needed the money :D

Man, this is just wrong.... 174 pages of a mish-mash of information. Sad. :shakes: :mad:

[Jodiuh]

I flashed 308 the other day. Love it. Very fast post compaired to all the MF BIOS and RF 208 BIOS.
Really?! I've always wished this thing would as quickly as my previous P35 board (IP35 Pro or P35-T2R, can't remember). It takes a good 10-15 seconds chillin' with first part of POST, then goes into the RAID ROM for another 5-7. I'm at least 15-20 seconds slower than other boards and it drives me crazy when testing OC settings.


Man, this is just wrong.... 174 pages of a mish-mash of information. Sad. :shakes: :mad:
I only have 73. :D A single large thread is nice, but can be so very difficult to go through. I suppose as long as the first thread has EVERYTHING, it's not a total loss. :down: Still, I'd like to see sub forums for a board and maybe 5 nice threads w/ a sticky up top. :D

[Cosmic81]

:confused: :confused: :confused:


Hi Gys,

how are the measure points of Vcore, NB, FSB and VDIMM voltage on the Maximus Formula?


Bios to Actual vDroop listing
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6334/001dj0wo6.png

Are the LoadlineCalib on or off on this list ?


THX


Cos


what for ClockGen in the SetFSB have the Maximus X38?

[p2501]

Someone merged the threads? Bad idea me thinks. Well yes, we have a search function, but still. Not a good idea at all.

[XtremeTiramisu]

It's not really that bad of an idea like some of you said. Actually, it's good to consolidate all maximus/rampage related threads into one if you think from another aspect. At least the mod did consolidate all the crucial infos in regards to the mobo itselt to OCing to Rampage conversion all in the first page, that's what matters the most IMO.

Don't forget there's also search this thread option tab on the top of the page if you ever wants to go into details of someone's post reply in regards to what you want to know.

Anyways, I think we should do less talking about threads merging as it has been done and more talking on the actual mobo itself, OCing, and Rampage conversion aftermath results :)

[cuke2u]

Hi, all I can say is well done to the moderators for merging all the threads. It was getting very silly three of them all with the same posts going on, nuff said already :-)
Chris

[Talonman]

In regards to your boot failure and messages, yes they are for real. It usually happens because Windows becomes damaged after many hard crashes and especially when crashing during an OC test liek we so love to do. I try to keep to safe mode for starters till I feel it can go further. If this doesnt work, try your last good profile and in OS, reinstall current inf, GPU and RAID (if any) drivers. It worked for mine when it happened.

You mentioned 907. Are you back on that now or came from that at some point? I had BIOS chip corruption when moving away from 907, no matter what version I flashed to. I has the very USB hang ups and lots of the det_ram hangs even in stock. So just to clear up, did you have the USB hang up in 903 and also was the GX2 installed then too? It may be worth a shot to try it. I am most interested to know, cause I really dont want another 907 USB and RAM hang up experience again. When I was on v0907, the few times I got to XP x64, I would even loose USB support, and RAM hang ups (frozen desktop and or video, requiring a hard reset. Sometimes, USB hang can be fixed by unplugging mouse and plugging it back in. but the whole experience was driving me Nuckin Futs up the wall. Lol!

I was on 907 a few days ago, and have been running my 3.8GHz on it for quite a while...

I'm taking this over to the pure Maximus SE thread... :)

I don't think anything is really corrupted...

I can't overlook the facts that:

It started the second the GX2 was installed...
I had been running at 3.8GHz for months with no issues.
Both BIOS 907 and 1004 produce the exact same results for me.
You have no idea how many combos I have tried... ;) (Bordering on obsessive-compulsive disorder!)
No setting wen't unchanged, or searously overvolted.
My system has just primed the above setting fine for 7 hours with thoes low volts. No sign of system issues at all.
Me moving my FSB from 385 to 390 should not take a ton more voltage to pull off. I have already given it as much as I dare. It didn't help.


I need to hear from a GX2 Maximus SE guy... Are you out there? :)

[By0T0xN]

Flashing back to stock (proper) board bios now added to the first post. :cool:

Do you mean MF bios? Which version? And has anyone tried the new 1007 MF bios?

Sorry if I misunderstood something.

[Dostoyevsky77]

Wow, Kup! Nice job on the first page update.

Any word for 0308 on E8400s? Zucker? Grnfinger? Try it yet? ***EDIT: I read Grnfinger's comments; thanks!

I got a 9800GX2 last weekend. Thanks to Cajer for the Maximus help, it works GREAT!

[kup]

Do you mean MF bios? Which version? And has anyone tried the new 1007 MF bios?

Sorry if I misunderstood something.

Yeah, well...MF or P5E bios, depending on which board you have. The flashing method is the same, just replace the Rampage Rom name with the Maximus / P5E Rom name and use the same switches, as listed on the first post.


Wow, Kup! Nice job on the first page update.

Any word for 0308 on E8400s? Zucker? Grnfinger? Try it yet?

I got a 9800GX2 last weekend. Thanks to Cajer for the Maximus help, it works GREAT!

I'm pretty sure the 0308 is as good or better than 0219 for 45nm, as Grnfinger uses an 8400 and he seems happy as Larry with it.


:confused: :confused: :confused:

I'll try to find something for you in regards to read points but I'm not sure if the list is with LLC enabled or not. I'll look into that too.

[chawks2]

I was using dominators but sold them on ebay. They were great with this board but I needed the money :D

Z, just wanted to say thanks, I am now able to get stable 450x8 on my Q9450. Not sure how much higher I can go, but am @ 455x8 right now. Thanks a ton! :up:

[Xilikon]

chawks2, did you use the 266 strap to get over 450 ?

[kup]

Do you mean MF bios? Which version? And has anyone tried the new 1007 MF bios?

Sorry if I misunderstood something.

Got a link?

[dimsdale]

Z, just wanted to say thanks, I am now able to get stable 450x8 on my Q9450. Not sure how much higher I can go, but am @ 455x8 right now. Thanks a ton! :up:


chawks2,
When you stay stable- can you clarify? I've tried underclocking my RAM running the CPU at known good speed/voltage, and I can't get "prime95 blend" stable for more than about 30 minutes.
I'd be interested in seeing your settings!

[Flameout]

Hello I am new to the forum and to overclocking.
I have read the 40 odd pages and successfully flashed my Maximus Formula to Rampage formula, now I would like some advice as to how to overclock it.
Please can someone give me settings that will work specific to the components I have in my pc. I would like to try and acheive an overclock of 4ghz from the E8400 is this possible?

Many thanks in advance.

Maximus Formula flashed to Rampage Formula
Bios 0219
Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit
4 x 1Gb Corsair Dominator PC2-8500C5 with cooling fan
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 LGA775 'Wolfdale' 3.00GHz
Zalman CNPS-9700LED
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2
2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB SATA-II 32MB Cache (not raid)
Samsung SH-S203B DVd
LG G-H20L-S10 Dvd
Enermax Infinity 720w psu.
Coolermaster Cosmos 1000 case

[Dostoyevsky77]

Do you mean MF bios? Which version? And has anyone tried the new 1007 MF bios?

Sorry if I misunderstood something.

There's a Maximus Extreme 1007 as you can see HERE (ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Extreme/). Are you sure you're not getting confused with the DDR3 board?

[rcjian]

Hi there, about the convertion, I'm still in the process of reading the posts and trying to learn more and more about the problems that people are encountering! So far, what I don't like is the detram hang that some people are having from time to time. I know that they have different ways of walking around from it but they said that its not a permanent fix. I wonder if it will be sure issue for every MF converting to RF or to some only? Is there a permanent fix for that problem which I have missed reading? Thanks!

[chawks2]

chawks2, did you use the 266 strap to get over 450 ?

Nope, using 333.

[ElEctric_EyE]

man this rampage 0308 BIOS is pickier than 0219. Anyone else agree? Should I switch my 2 sticks of ram to the white slots? would these be the A slots?

[M-XXXX]

Got to reason of my troubles:

Not I got to the end of mistery- somethig is wrong with socket- when I pul the lever ONLY RAM leds are on, if I relese the lever, all leds except CPU are on. So my conclusion is that is somethink wrong with the socket!!!

http://shrani.si/t/2Q/bc/3ZCucyui/socket.jpg (http://shrani.si/?2Q/bc/3ZCucyui/socket.jpg)

[BigKriss]

Hi there, about the convertion, I'm still in the process of reading the posts and trying to learn more and more about the problems that people are encountering! So far, what I don't like is the detram hang that some people are having from time to time. I know that they have different ways of walking around from it but they said that its not a permanent fix. I wonder if it will be sure issue for every MF converting to RF or to some only? Is there a permanent fix for that problem which I have missed reading? Thanks!

You have to be brave...go for it,be daring for once..Seriously,the det ram thing is easily solved with the right volts,timings,frequencies etc etc..Its really no big deal..
I had 2 det rams early on and it was simply too low Vram !

Go for change and never look back.The Rampage opens a new world here..

[Stanley Pain]

Hi there, about the convertion, I'm still in the process of reading the posts and trying to learn more and more about the problems that people are encountering! So far, what I don't like is the detram hang that some people are having from time to time. I know that they have different ways of walking around from it but they said that its not a permanent fix. I wonder if it will be sure issue for every MF converting to RF or to some only? Is there a permanent fix for that problem which I have missed reading? Thanks!

DET DRAM happens with RF bios as well. It's usually caused by incorrect timings + insufficient voltage supplied to DRAM during POST. I'd agree it's pretty damn annoying.

Had to RMA my Dominators last week, hoping the new ones can run @ stock speeds without failing memtest. Hopefully it's not the motherboard.

[me3850]

hello there i have one problem...
i have change my ram but the problem is same when i try to set high fsb over 266 my system risult instable why?????

the setting is:

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 438
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1167MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : disabled
relax level 7

CPU Voltage : 1.43v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45v
DRAM Voltage : 2.08
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

the problem is only with goldmemory found more then 20 error i have try other software prime orthos occ no error(ram test and other)... but the windows is instable why?

bios 1004 have try 0907 but same...

help me please :(

[Dostoyevsky77]

@ Me3850,

What are your full system specs? What's your chip? What memory do you have, exactly?

Have you tried running the RAM in the 333 strap at 1051MHz?

[Nuckin_Futs]

Please can someone give me settings that will work specific to the components I have in my pc. I would like to try and acheive an overclock of 4ghz from the E8400 is this possible?
Follow most of my POST as I use a daily 4GHz on core 2 @ 500x8 as well as a 485x8. PM me if need be for a CMOS template. I have others who share that it OC's like the E6750 but cooler.


Hi there, about the convertion, I'm still in the process of reading the posts and trying to learn more and more about the problems that people are encountering! So far, what I don't like is the detram hang that some people are having from time to time. I know that they have different ways of walking around from it but they said that its not a permanent fix. I wonder if it will be sure issue for every MF converting to RF or to some only? Is there a permanent fix for that problem which I have missed reading? Thanks!
This to my personal experience with 3 mobos since new in Oct. of '07 is not normal. I only experienced it on 2 and one was so rarely random on OC tweaking, but both that do it are for sure on BETA BIOS's so keep that in mind. The are bETA for a reason. We are the ginnie pigs. BETA v0907 was the 1st time I got any of the det_ram issues. So I'd say, if you're on a FINAL BIOS to v0802 and below, v0602 was best for me, you should be fine. If I do occasionally get the hang, currently on v903, it is almost always due to stressfull RAM performance options of the Ai Clock Twister in combo w/ Performance Booster, as well as tightened timings. Various strap settings effectided this too at certain FSB levels.

[me3850]

@ Me3850,

What are your full system specs? What's your chip? What memory do you have, exactly?

Have you tried running the RAM in the 333 strap at 1051MHz?

i have q6600 g0 maximus formula ocz reaper 1066mhz enermax infinity 720w raptorX... yep i have tried 333strap at 1051mhz same error :(

[ChaosMinionX]

Nope, using 333.

What BIOS settings? I am considering venturing back to Maximus Formula old BIOS's to try and sort out this Q9450/X3350 issue. I am gonna try 0207 for Rampage Formula tonight and see what it does.

Maybe the X48 is the answer, the extra bit of performance lets 45nm clock higher. I really dont know, but I think I will buy another 45nm and see what it does, and make a conclusion based on that.

[Xilikon]

Try with full auto for memory timings/sub-timings. Maybe a timing need to be set a certain value to run with higher fsb.

[Grnfinger]

Zucker2k

have you managed to get 525 FSB (any multi) stable?
wouldnt mind comparing volts if you did

[By0T0xN]

There's a Maximus Extreme 1007 as you can see HERE. Are you sure you're not getting confused with the DDR3 board?


Oh crap, You guys I'm sorry, you're right it's Maximus Extreme. I was looking at the Station Drivers site the other day and jumped to quickly when I saw "Maximus" listed. Boy do I feel stupid.

[me3850]

Try with full auto for memory timings/sub-timings. Maybe a timing need to be set a certain value to run with higher fsb.

yep i try same error :(

[dimsdale]

What's a safe memory voltage on the MF? My G.Skills are rated for 2.0 - 2.1. If I run them at 2.15 or 2.20 to get a higher clock on them, am I going to damage them?

[p2501]

What's a safe memory voltage on the MF? My G.Skills are rated for 2.0 - 2.1. If I run them at 2.15 or 2.20 to get a higher clock on them, am I going to damage them?

EnJoY did a review (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163668) and ran 2.2v through them without any hassle. But I don't know what will happen in the long run if you do this. They're PowerChips so go a little bit too far and they're dead. Nothing like the slow death on Microns. I killed a set feeding them 2.26, took them just a few days. Oh and it's not a matter of cooling here.

[GlowingBulb]

@ Grnfinger: Many thanks for posting those BIOS settings for a quad, apologies for the delay in thanking you but I had a small problem, the out port of my Fuzion block decided to spring a leak during a pretty intense 2142 session & I only noticed when I saw fesser one dripping in a big puddle through the bottom of my case. One soaked 8800GTX & X-Fi later I can confirm that FS1 is non-conductive :)

As for the BIOS settings, I couldnt even get as far as the dreaded DETRAM. Methinks that my Q6600 is at an FSB wall at 435 :(

[Grnfinger]

@ Grnfinger: Many thanks for posting those BIOS settings for a quad, apologies for the delay in thanking you but I had a small problem, the out port of my Fuzion block decided to spring a leak during a pretty intense 2142 session & I only noticed when I saw fesser one dripping in a big puddle through the bottom of my case. One soaked 8800GTX & X-Fi later I can confirm that FS1 is non-conductive :)

As for the BIOS settings, I couldnt even get as far as the dreaded DETRAM. Methinks that my Q6600 is at an FSB wall at 435 :(

Post your current bios setup, I doubt you've hit a wall.
Sorry to hear about your leaky pipes, good you didnt lose anything but time on the clean up.

[Xilikon]

I did some attempts and with high voltages for NB (1.73v), full auto for memory settings, including strap control and 1.4v, I was able to enter in Windows at 8x451 but upon starting prime95, it froze after 15-20 seconds. 8x460 and over result in det dram or struck in Windows boot.

It's like if the requirements to get over the mystical 8x450 threshold is a very very steep climb :( I guess something is wrong in the BIOS in terms of tweakings to support a 45nm quad better and I decided to leave at 8x440 for now until the new update which unlock this.

[eSp!s0]

What's a safe memory voltage on the MF? My G.Skills are rated for 2.0 - 2.1. If I run them at 2.15 or 2.20 to get a higher clock on them, am I going to damage them?

Did you try lower voltage?
As you know, I have the same ram, but only one kit (2x2GB).
They do 1080Mhz with 1,96V in bios, which is about 2,0V in windows. Timings set to "Auto".
It could be different with 2 kits of course!

[ChaosMinionX]

I did some attempts and with high voltages for NB (1.73v), full auto for memory settings, including strap control and 1.4v, I was able to enter in Windows at 8x451 but upon starting prime95, it froze after 15-20 seconds. 8x460 and over result in det dram or struck in Windows boot.

It's like if the requirements to get over the mystical 8x450 threshold is a very very steep climb :( I guess something is wrong in the BIOS in terms of tweakings to support a 45nm quad better and I decided to leave at 8x440 for now until the new update which unlock this.

It almost feels like the way HD3870's had until the new BIOS was released for them. I wonder if thats going along the same train of thought.

[Diss]

Hello all, first post from a newb. Been trying to get registered for a few weeks. Thanks to who ever finally approved my registration. :up:

Anyway I got a Maximus Formula with a Q6600 GO stepping. Still on the 602 bios that came on the board.

This is my first water cooled PC and the first real overclockable one.

I got it up to 4GHZ and my memory running at 890 cas 4 with the settings below.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- AUTO
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.56875 = 1.488
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 = 1.632
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51 = 1.552
DRAM Voltage : 2.14 = 2.24
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42 = 1.488
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO = 1.072
Loadline Calibration : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO = 1.120
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO = 1.552

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled


Question is, should I stay with the 602 bios or is there a better one for the Q6600?

[ChaosMinionX]

Hello all, first post from a newb. Been trying to get registered for a few weeks. Thanks to who ever finally approved my registration. :up:

Anyway I got a Maximus Formula with a Q6600 GO stepping. Still on the 602 bios that came on the board.

This is my first water cooled PC and the first real overclockable one.

I got it up to 4GHZ and my memory running at 890 cas 4 with the settings below.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- AUTO
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.56875 = 1.488
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 = 1.632
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51 = 1.552
DRAM Voltage : 2.14 = 2.24
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42 = 1.488
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO = 1.072
Loadline Calibration : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO = 1.120
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO = 1.552

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled


Question is, should I stay with the 602 bios or is there a better one for the Q6600?

1004 is the best Maximus Formula BIOS to date :)

[WFO]

Hey guys, great work on consolidating all the Maximus info so it's easier to find the important stuff. :up: I joined the Maximus Rampage owners today. Everything went smooth as silk! I'll be adding my graphics cards to my cooling loop and installing a 9450 this weekend before any OC attempts.

To avoid even more repetitive questions may I suggest the syntax be changed for the flashing command?

I had to use: AFU236U /irf0219.rom /n /pbnc

...to initiate the flash. Typing afudos didn't work for me. I honestly can't remember if I tried it in all caps too. This was discussed deep in the thread and is currently buried somewhere. :yepp:

Too in eastcoasthandle's post he mentions putting the board in the refrigerator as a means of assisting removal of the NB HS. In the Cliff's notes I think it should be mentioned that Component Cooling spray is available from Radio Shack and safer. It should also be stated that it is far easier to remove the NB hs from the board new out of the box. If removed after running it takes far more heat or cold as the thermal compound then acts like cured epoxy. Arcticlean works fine when removed new. After being run it takes Acitone. I only bring this up because I just removed the NB HS from a new Rampage Formula. The SB came right off. The NB needed about a 6 second blast of the Component Cooler. My Maximus was run for 2 weeks prior to removal and that ordeal took lot's of heat and about 45 minutes.

[initialised]

I looked everywhere with no luck:shrug: seems no one has itOur board (in our test bench, 15th on CPC's Leaderboard (http://www.custompc.co.uk/benchmarks)) came with the 215 bios. Not sure if it was backed up. Will check.

[initialised]

We need to decide on a name for these hacked boards.

Suggestions:

1-Rampagimus
2-Rampaximus
3-Haximus
4-Maximus Rampage
5-Maxpage

and for the P5E owners with the balls to try it:

1-R5E
2-P5E-Rampage
3-P5R
4-P5E-R

[initialised]

Tony (of OCZ fame) suggested dropping Vnb and raising 'Cycle Time' to 60. Helped us through an 'FSB wall' on a genuine Rampage with D9s

[volkovski]

Hi, sry for my Eng.

I have a little problem with my LCD poster on Maximus formula.
My setup is: E8400 (3GHz), 4 GB Corsair DHX2 4-4-4-12, Maximus formula (0907), Asus 8800 GTS 512, Enermax 485W 24pin + 4 pin, Vista Ultimate 32bit

In BIOS is chosen, that the LCD poster should be lighted off in OS, and showing time. When i run EVEREST program, it lights on and showing time. When i run AISuite , it lights on too, but time is changed on 59 min, for example : hod:min:sec - 13:59:14 , right time for example 13:35:14.
Where is problem, thank you for reply.

[swiftex]

Hey guys, great work on consolidating all the Maximus info so it's easier to find the important stuff. :up: I joined the Maximus Rampage owners today. Everything went smooth as silk! I'll be adding my graphics cards to my cooling loop and installing a 9450 this weekend before any OC attempts.

To avoid even more repetitive questions may I suggest the syntax be changed for the flashing command?

I had to use: AFU236U /irf0219.rom /n /pbnc

...to initiate the flash. Typing afudos didn't work for me. I honestly can't remember if I tried it in all caps too. This was discussed deep in the thread and is currently buried somewhere. :yepp:

Too in eastcoasthandle's post he mentions putting the board in the refrigerator as a means of assisting removal of the NB HS. In the Cliff's notes I think it should be mentioned that Component Cooling spray is available from Radio Shack and safer. It should also be stated that it is far easier to remove the NB hs from the board new out of the box. If removed after running it takes far more heat or cold as the thermal compound then acts like cured epoxy. Arcticlean works fine when removed new. After being run it takes Acitone. I only bring this up because I just removed the NB HS from a new Rampage Formula. The SB came right off. The NB needed about a 6 second blast of the Component Cooler. My Maximus was run for 2 weeks prior to removal and that ordeal took lot's of heat and about 45 minutes.

I preferred a Part 1 & Part 11 thread myself - but some %^&*% didn't like it -

I would have thought that over time due to popular demand and the "DEMOCRATIC" process it would have become evident as to what would have gone the way of the "DODO"

Nonetheless, I appreciate the ability to express myself and embrace the ability of others to do so as well and naturally hope that this continues without predjudice

That being said, y'all enjoy eh! (friggin canucks strike again) - (part 2: epilogue: by the time you hit 50 page 2's a blurr)

[Renegade5399]

Got my Q6600 today and after about an hour of playing around, it is stable at 4GHz with 1.51v. It's a SLACR G0 I just picked up from fry's for $189. My board is a Maximus modded to a Rampage running 0219.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=346759

I am more than impressed with the way this board handles this chip. I have had little to no trouble getting this thing up and going and not once did it not boot to windows.

I found that using the CPU GTL set to .67x did in fact help me with stability. Next up are the RAM tweaks (hello DET DRAM), but I have a stick of 667 Value RAM here for those times when DET DRAM says hi.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Anyway I got a Maximus Formula with a Q6600 GO stepping. Still on the 602 bios that came on the board.

This is my first water cooled PC and the first real overclockable one.

I got it up to 4GHZ and my memory running at 890 cas 4 with the settings below.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- AUTO
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.56875 = 1.488
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 = 1.632
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51 = 1.552
DRAM Voltage : 2.14 = 2.24 might be more then you need for your RAM
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42 = 1.488
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO = 1.072 try 1.104v
Loadline Calibration : AUTO try Enable for vdroop correction
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO try 63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO try 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO = 1.120
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO = 1.552 Try 1.58~1.60 if gaming or on RAID set

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled


Question is, should I stay with the 602 bios or is there a better one for the Q6600? v0602 was the best for me on a Q6x00 and E6x50. Those settings look very like to mine so I can see they work for others too. If it is stable and you like its feel, I'd stay away from th4e BETA's unless there's something you must have. Then by all means, go for it at your own risk just like the rest of us. I would first try the 500x8 like mine to see if you get the like of an OC. Mine was on air, so you have an edge already, and using lees vcore.

Play with the settings I colored in RED, see notes. Compare to see if it feels any better and especially before you go BETA BIOS so you have something to compare it to.

[WFO]

Got my Q6600 today and after about an hour of playing around, it is stable at 4GHz with 1.51v. It's a SLACR G0 I just picked up from fry's for $189. My board is a Maximus modded to a Rampage running 0219.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=346759

I am more than impressed with the way this board handles this chip. I have had little to no trouble getting this thing up and going and not once did it not boot to windows.

I found that using the CPU GTL set to .67x did in fact help me with stability. Next up are the RAM tweaks (hello DET DRAM), but I have a stick of 667 Value RAM here for those times when DET DRAM says hi.

:up: :up: :up: Great price on the chip Renegade. Cheapest price I saw last week when shopping was around $240. Seeing your post makes me regret buying 2 9450s even though they aren't even installed yet. Hopefully they will provide better folding performance at lower clocks and save some energy though. :)

[Grnfinger]

Our board (in our test bench, 15th on CPC's Leaderboard (http://www.custompc.co.uk/benchmarks)) came with the 215 bios. Not sure if it was backed up. Will check.

That would be great if you have it:)

[me3850]

i have q6600 maximus formula ocz reaper 8500 eneramx 720w the problem is:

400x6 = 2.4ghz all auto
fsbvoltage 1.54
nbvoltage 1.6
i have tried with cpu voltage 1.43
ddr2 667
my system is unstable why?
with other ram (g-skill 8000) same issue

with 266 fsb work good why???
help me :_(
same problem with 1004 or 0907 or "308 hacked"

[Dostoyevsky77]

I posted my BIOS settings here for the E8400 @ sigged if anyone is interested:

LINK (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=63900&view=findpost&p=363687)

Zucker/Grnfinger, any comments welcome but it should look pretty familiar since I basically cheated off you guys!

[Stanley Pain]

Hi, sry for my Eng.

I have a little problem with my LCD poster on Maximus formula.
My setup is: E8400 (3GHz), 4 GB Corsair DHX2 4-4-4-12, Maximus formula (0907), Asus 8800 GTS 512, Enermax 485W 24pin + 4 pin, Vista Ultimate 32bit

In BIOS is chosen, that the LCD poster should be lighted off in OS, and showing time. When i run EVEREST program, it lights on and showing time. When i run AISuite , it lights on too, but time is changed on 59 min, for example : hod:min:sec - 13:59:14 , right time for example 13:35:14.
Where is problem, thank you for reply.


That sounds like a strange issue. Make sure to check the connections are okay on the motherboard.

Try clearing CMOS and configuring the settings again. Other than that, I don't know what else might cause that.

[Sources]

Damn almost had a heart attack when I when and click my favorites link to this thread and it was gone.
I don't mind it being combined but I do see valid points from both sides. Im just glad the info is still here.

TALON !

Glad to see you got some stability with GX2.

[GlowingBulb]

Settings for OCCT hr stable below, tried everything but just cant get anything higher! :shrug:


Just flashed from 219, not had any chance to see if there are any improvements here to help hit a stable FSB of over 435MHz, regardless of the multiplier.

Just completed a 1hr OCCT run with the slider over to very large without issues, as soon as I increased the FSB to 440MHz it did the usual of locking up approx 2mins into an OCCT run. My 219 BOIS settings are below, any advice would be appreciated.

Would like to see 450 x 8 for 3.6GHz but just cant get my FSB up there.

I run24/7 at 400MHz x 9 @1066MHz (PL6)

Anybody get the false reading in PC Probe where SB1 Volts jump to 1.58+ & the FSBT reads 0V occasionally?

(Note: the settings below are stable with 8x multiplier, I dropped 1 down to rule out my CPU. I've tried upping the NB to 1.65 & still no joy. Temps arent an issue, I've never seen any core hit 50deg nor my NB go over 36deg)

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
FSB Frequency : 435
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 112
DRAM Frequency: 870
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level 13

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.475 (Hardware Monitor shows 1.456 idle)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6 (Hardware Monitor shows 1.728)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55 (Hardware Monitor shows 1.584)
DRAM Voltage : 2.00 (Hardware Monitor shows 2.09)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48 (Hardware Monitor shows 1.552)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10 (Hardware Monitor shows 1.136)
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5 (Hardware Monitor shows 1.552)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref (Hardware Monitor shows 1.1040)
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref (Hardware Monitor shows 1.1040)
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref (Hardware Monitor shows 1.1040)

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

*Apologies for the screenie, not yet learned how to create a thumbnail :shrug: *
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg174/GlowingBulb/Liquid%20Cooled%20TJ07/435MHz7x219BIOS.jpg

[me3850]

i have realy strange issues i have remove my cpu and i see liquid on the pin what's it??????? and on the transistor at center of socket???????????

[Renegade5399]

Pics?

[Sources]

i have realy strange issues i have remove my cpu and i see liquid on the pin what's it??????? and on the transistor at center of socket???????????

1) do you have liquid cooling?
2) could it be a little small dab of thermal paste?
3) were you drinking a beer when first assembling it before? LoL

[andyr(uk)]

Hi anyone know where i can get one of these from , that exports thanks
Intel Xeon X3350 Quad Core Processor

edit :just found the x3350 thead will get the needed info out of there thanks

[Flameout]

Can some one please give me stable bios settings to acheive 4ghz on e8400 with the following other components -thanks

Maximus Formula flashed to Rampage Formula
Bios 0219
Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit
4 x 1Gb Corsair Dominator PC2-8500C5 with cooling fan
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 LGA775 'Wolfdale' 3.00GHz
Zalman CNPS-9700LED
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2
2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB SATA-II 32MB Cache (not raid)
Samsung SH-S203B
LG G-H20L-S10
Enermax Infinity 720w psu.
Coolermaster Cosmos 1000 case

[ericab]

We need to decide on a name for these hacked boards.

Suggestions:

1-Rampagimus
2-Rampaximus
3-Haximus
4-Maximus Rampage
5-Maxpage

and for the P5E owners with the balls to try it:

1-R5E
2-P5E-Rampage
3-P5R
4-P5E-R


way ahead of ya bro. we figured this out weeks ago.

Maximus Rampage FTW :up:

[Dostoyevsky77]

Can some one please give me stable bios settings to acheive 4ghz on e8400 with the following other components -thanks


Did you see my POST (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2925850&postcount=4386) above? That's exactly what I did.

[zlojack]

I like Rampage Formula X38

Given the fact that the NB chip is the only difference, it makes sense.

[MrHydes]

this new info in the mems is messing my head up!

someone with max formula and E8500 and Transcend PC9600?

i'll apreciate some help with my mem timmings set here.

now i'm stressing with prime95 at:

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8108/asusprobevd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/561/cpu3570al7.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6631/memory3570ej0.png (http://imageshack.us)

that voltage you see in probe is actually the same voltage i've set in Bios, exept DRAM that i've input 2.2v only
Loadline calibration is enabled

[Da_maniaC]

Hey guys,

I think i just thought up a little issue... maybe im wrong though....

I have 2 WD Caviar RE2 750GB SATA2 drives in my old rig which contain my data. (Its a RAID1 array)
I want to move these drives to my new PC which has a Maximus formula motherboard.
(I will just clean the drives and create a new array, then copy all my data back onto it).

Anyway, im also on the virge of buying 2 new WD Raptor X drives to hook up to the motherboard in RAID 0.

This all should come with no difficulties but my current NEC ND4550-A DVD writer will be replaced by a Plextor PX-810SA writer.
Which is a SATA device.

Now my question is... once the 6 SATA ports on the motherboard are set to RAID mode... will i still be able to hook up this SATA burner?

Thanks for any info! :)

[Renegade5399]

The ports are set individually, so no issue there.

[rcjian]

Hey guys,

I think i just thought up a little issue... maybe im wrong though....

I have 2 WD Caviar RE2 750GB SATA2 drives in my old rig which contain my data. (Its a RAID1 array)
I want to move these drives to my new PC which has a Maximus formula motherboard.
(I will just clean the drives and create a new array, then copy all my data back onto it).

Anyway, im also on the virge of buying 2 new WD Raptor X drives to hook up to the motherboard in RAID 0.

This all should come with no difficulties but my current NEC ND4550-A DVD writer will be replaced by a Plextor PX-810SA writer.
Which is a SATA device.

Now my question is... once the 6 SATA ports on the motherboard are set to RAID mode... will i still be able to hook up this SATA burner?

Thanks for any info! :)

Yes you can:yepp:

[Da_maniaC]

Thanks guys! :)

[Grnfinger]

I posted my BIOS settings here for the E8400 @ sigged if anyone is interested:

LINK (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=63900&view=findpost&p=363687)

Zucker/Grnfinger, any comments welcome but it should look pretty familiar since I basically cheated off you guys!

Could you do me a favour????
Could you run Everest Memory Bench with your ram at current 5-4-4-12-3-25-6-3, and then again at 5-5-5-15-3-30-3-6 and post both results

[Utnorris]

Ok, I will apologize up front as the answer may be somewhere in this thread, but after reading about 6 different forums my head feels like it will explode if I keep going. That being said, is there a consensus for the voltage settings as what is normal, what is reasonable overclocking, what is probably "pushing it" and "Hey, break out the marshmellows you're going have a bonfire soon"? I only ask because my voltages are all set to default except my core. When I set the voltages manually to the ones that the board automatically sets them too I get yellow and red on some. For instance my Pll voltage is at 1.84 auto and that setting when done manually is Red. Now, I have the Blitz Formula SE P35 model, but I have been told this is almost identical to the Maximus, so I figure what is good for the Maximus should be good for the Blitz. I am currently at 400x9 at 1.46v core. If you need more info, just let me know and I can post it.
Thank you in advance for your patience,
Utnorris

[kup]

vCore - Whatever you need for the clocks (not above 1.55v IMO).
vNorth Bridge - 1.6v should be enough.
vSouth Bridge - Leave on Auto.
vFSBT - 1.6v in Bios Maximum, IMO.
vPLL - Set to 1.6v.

That should be safe on your Blitz, I certainly didn't need more than that on mine for 475x8 on a Quad with 2 or 4GB of ram...

[Utnorris]

Thanks Kup.

Utnorris

P.S. anyone been able to hit 450x9 stable on a q6600. I am still reading the thread, but thought I would ask.

[Diss]

v0602 was the best for me on a Q6x00 and E6x50. Those settings look very like to mine so I can see they work for others too. If it is stable and you like its feel, I'd stay away from th4e BETA's unless there's something you must have. Then by all means, go for it at your own risk just like the rest of us. I would first try the 500x8 like mine to see if you get the like of an OC. Mine was on air, so you have an edge already, and using lees vcore.

Play with the settings I colored in RED, see notes. Compare to see if it feels any better and especially before you go BETA BIOS so you have something to compare it to.

I've read a little about the GTL but I don't completely understand it. Can anyone spell it out in newb terms.
Thanks for the ideas.

[MrHydes]

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4350/primetaskcpuz430x853655ly5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4350/primetaskcpuz430x853655ly5.e50e42cd25.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=507&i=primetaskcpuz430x853655ly5.jpg)

can someone give me some help, handling this DRAM SLK Skew on channel A B

Advance 100Ps
Advance 50Ps
normal
Delay 50Ps
Delay 100Ps

that this in fact does in terms of performance?

[Grnfinger]

Thats a setting that will need to be adjusted yourself, not everyone will have the same needs and its of no use unless your running all 4 dimm slots

[ElEctric_EyE]

I've read a little about the GTL but I don't completely understand it. Can anyone spell it out in newb terms.
Thanks for the ideas.

n00b or newB? that is the question. Are all you newies scared to blow up your cpu's? I recommend reading thoroughly your q6600 datasheets and the 2 thermal protection methods this CPU uses. If you are on air alone you have absolutely nothing to worry about. You could overlock all day long without even a heatsink, and you r little CPU will struggle through it's ordeal. Now if you OC and supercooling the cpu AND subject it to high vlts and freq, then you have something to worry about becaue you are bypassing the 2 thermal limit protections embedded in the cpu, that no software can change. READ YOUR cpu DATASHEET on intel.com! come on lamers do we have to do all the work for you?! Show me your settings...

[Grnfinger]

n00b or newB? that is the question. Are all you newies scared to blow up your cpu's? I recommend reading thoroughly your q6600 datasheets and the 2 thermal protection methods this CPU uses. If you are on air alone you have absolutely nothing to worry about. You could overlock all day long without even a heatsink, and you r little CPU will struggle through it's ordeal. Now if you OC and supercooling the cpu AND subject it to high vlts and freq, then you have something to worry about becaue you are bypassing the 2 thermal limit protections embedded in the cpu, that no software can change. READ YOUR cpu DATASHEET on intel.com! come on lamers do we have to do all the work for you?! Show me your settings...

+1
I couldnt have said it better myself
I was wondering who else was getting tired of the "please do it for me" requests

[ElEctric_EyE]

#'s: This is with Rampage BIOS 0308. Still trying to lower Volts on CPU and NB. Core temps with Volts shown are approaching 75C on 28C ambient, 32WC loop temp. After 3 days finally got it "stable". Stable to me is posting, loading to windows vista x64, and putting up with 10 min OCCT 50/50 blend. I am overvolting my corsair ram way above spec's which worries me, but it almost time to upgrade anyway, and they are doing well with "normal" usage of gaming with front lines and video encoding with tpmgenc.

[Grnfinger]

#'s:

you should tighten your timings ALOT, I run 2 MHz faster on my ram @ 1174MHz and my bandwidth is alot better

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4400_1174BEST.png

5-5-5-15-3-30-6

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

[ElEctric_EyE]

Thats the E8400 for ya! I've tried it all to match your 10K settings, I've seen them b4, and it is a thing of envy!. Can't do it with my Q6600. However, look at the OC percentages.

[Grnfinger]

What version is your current ram?
When you get the new kit are you keeping the 8500 ram? If you plan to part with them and there the right version please pm me I will be very interested in them.

[Zucker2k]

@ Grnfinger: Per my sig., I've gone beyond 525 fsb with my 8400. However, 525 fsb for 24/7 is pushing it. My sweet spot is 8.5x506 for 4.3Ghz 24/7.

I'm contemplating moving back to a Q6600 as the Q9450 seems to be "crippled" by Intel in the oc dept.

[Grnfinger]

@ Grnfinger: Per my sig., I've gone beyond 525 fsb with my 8400. However, 525 fsb for 24/7 is pushing it. My sweet spot is 8.5x506 for 4.3Ghz 24/7.

I'm contemplating moving back to a Q6600 as the Q9450 seems to be "crippled" by Intel in the oc dept.

What are you running your ram at using 506FSB, my Corsair can do 1200+ MHZ but they get a little hot for my liking.

[stevehat1]

Thx for the great post and all the links.:D Think I'll try the Rampage conversion.

[ZenEffect]

+1
I couldnt have said it better myself
I was wondering who else was getting tired of the "please do it for me" requests

i hate those pm's

"can you mod my 2900xt for higher volts and clocks?"

for a while i was getting like 15 a day... thank god for rbe :p:

[Utnorris]

I am not sure if all the "I hate lazy people posting" were aimed at me or the other guy. If it was me I assure you me asking about the voltage settings was only after I had spent the last 4 days looking at various forums. All i could fine was what people were setting theirs at and since I sometimes like to push the envelope I wanted to know if there was established guidelines to the max settings. If I pissed someone off, I truly apologize as that was not my intention.

Utnorris

[Zucker2k]

What are you running your ram at using 506FSB, my Corsair can do 1200+ MHZ but they get a little hot for my liking.

I was running 1:1, (DDR2 1012) @ 4-4-4-12-3-30.

@ E_E: Those voltages are insane for 3.8 Ghz. :eek:

[BigKriss]

I am not sure if all the "I hate lazy people posting" were aimed at me or the other guy. If it was me I assure you me asking about the voltage settings was only after I had spent the last 4 days looking at various forums. All i could fine was what people were setting theirs at and since I sometimes like to push the envelope I wanted to know if there was established guidelines to the max settings. If I pissed someone off, I truly apologize as that was not my intention.

Utnorris

Yo,relax ! Everybody has to start somewhere and we all ask these questions at some stage...
Some guys will help,others will ignore you flat..
Sad thing is what works for me will probably not work for you..Follow some settings you find that closely resemble yours and play !
Cheers.

[zlojack]

Guys get frustrated from answering the same questions over and over.

Everyone starts out as a n00b....

Anyway, I'm not getting anywhere right now with 500 FSB with this RAM.

It wants to go to performance level 10 or higher to post. When I scale it back to 450 x 9 I can post with PL=8

[XtremeTiramisu]

you should tighten your timings ALOT, I run 2 MHz faster on my ram @ 1174MHz and my bandwidth is alot better

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4400_1174BEST.png

5-5-5-15-3-30-6

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]




Thats the E8400 for ya! I've tried it all to match your 10K settings, I've seen them b4, and it is a thing of envy!. Can't do it with my Q6600. However, look at the OC percentages.

I concur, I've a near identical memory bandwidth with Electric eye. I used to not get why some of the 45nm quad/dual core OCers get much higher overall memory bandwidth with the exact same memory clock speed, FSB strap, timings as I do. Later on when I compare my Q6600 G0 with several other 65nm Quad and 45nm dual/quad users, I realized that the architechture of the cpu does matter significantly for our overall system bandwidth, especially when you compare the memory write/copy benchmark scores under everest. It seems the new 45nm dual/quad will gives you almost like a linear result for all read/write/copy memory bandwidth performance and relatively faster latency than a system config based on a 65nm dual/quad with an identical ram clock speed, fsb strap, performance level, and timings. After I realized all this, I've nothing to be worried about.:)

[Grnfinger]

I am not sure if all the "I hate lazy people posting" were aimed at me or the other guy. If it was me I assure you me asking about the voltage settings was only after I had spent the last 4 days looking at various forums. All i could fine was what people were setting theirs at and since I sometimes like to push the envelope I wanted to know if there was established guidelines to the max settings. If I pissed someone off, I truly apologize as that was not my intention.

Utnorris

My comments were not directed towards you:)
Sorry if it seemed like they were



I concur, I've a near identical memory bandwidth with Electric eye. I used to not get why some of the 45nm quad/dual core OCers get much higher overall memory bandwidth with the exact same memory clock speed, FSB strap, timings as I do. Later on when I compare my Q6600 G0 with several other 65nm Quad and 45nm dual/quad users, I realized that the architechture of the cpu does matter significantly for our overall system bandwidth, especially when you compare the memory write/copy benchmark scores under everest. It seems the new 45nm dual/quad will gives you almost like a linear result for all read/write/copy memory bandwidth performance and relatively faster latency than a system config based on a 65nm dual/quad with an identical ram clock speed, fsb strap, performance level, and timings. After I realized all this, I've nothing to be worried about.:)

For fun I poped my quad back in, seems your right

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1199NEWBEST.png

[ElEctric_EyE]

What version is your current ram?
When you get the new kit are you keeping the 8500 ram? If you plan to part with them and there the right version please pm me I will be very interested in them.

They're the 2.20V ver1.2. I think the ver2.2 are the sticks to have. These are headed to my P5WDG2WS Pro, they should survive. So is the 550W Thermaltake. My wattage monitor is hitting 425 at times. I wonder if my little Q6600 is sucking all 125Amps!

[Grnfinger]

They're the 2.20V ver1.2. I think the ver2.2 are the sticks to have. These are headed to my P5WDG2WS Pro, they should survive. So is the 550W Thermaltake. My wattage monitor is hitting 425 at times. I wonder if my little Q6600 is sucking all 125Amps!

It was my understanding that vers 1.x were the dimms to have.
I also have 2.20V ver 1.2 dimms, and have been looking for another ver 1.2 kit. If you ever changed your mind and want to part with them keep me in mind

[Sources]

When my Ballistix Tracers died on me (it was the single sided new version)I begged the guy at crucial to get me some old double sided PC8500's to match my other set and he pulled some strings and got some from a sales guy or a test machine or something, so now I have both sets of 2 x 1G PC8500's and they run AWESOME !

I was having so many problems and couldn't run higher than around 912mhz, now I can hit 1066 easy.

[miptzi]

strangely, I have the WORST series of Crucial "one-sided" 1066mhz sticks: the 8EF5, 4x1gb

running nice in @ 1101mhz, 5-5-5-15 2.20V
Just need to know HOW MUCH time will it be this way..........

if it dies, so DIE, damn!!, motherstrucking DImm's................
dominators are on it's way!!!! :D

[Krav]

So ive got my q6600 running at 367x9 for 3.3ghz my voltages are below. I tried ocing to 378x9 for 3.4ghz and upped the voltage to 1.28 for cpu and NB to 1.38 ( real voltage ) and Blue screened in prime95. So need some tips about what would be good values to work with to reach 3.4.

CPU Voltage : 1.281 = 1.26
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.33 = 1.36
DRAM Voltage : 2.00 = 2.13
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 = 1.09
Loadline Calibration : Enable

My cpu idles at about 40-44 @ idle during prime95 load can reach 65, so if any changes are made gotta try not let it go much above these if possible.

Help! :)

[Grnfinger]

So ive got my q6600 running at 367x9 for 3.3ghz my voltages are below. I tried ocing to 378x9 for 3.4ghz and upped the voltage to 1.28 for cpu and NB to 1.38 ( real voltage ) and Blue screened in prime95. So need some tips about what would be good values to work with to reach 3.4.

CPU Voltage : 1.281 = 1.26
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.33 = 1.36
DRAM Voltage : 2.00 = 2.13
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 = 1.09
Loadline Calibration : Enable

My cpu idles at about 40-44 @ idle during prime95 load can reach 65, so if any changes are made gotta try not let it go much above these if possible.

Help! :)

Up your FSBT to 1.40 and re test, dont change any other setting

[Cosmic81]

Hi Gys,

is here somebody who have higher then 500FSB, on the Max Formula or Formula@Rampage, with little voltages, 24/7/Primestable???
Who are the screens of his Biossettings?
I had with my E8500@Max Formula 470 MaxFSB!
Now @Rampage i have 520maxFSB but i need NB 1,712 load, FSBTV 1,648 load PLL 1,7xx Load for stable. Thats crazy, or not?

Sorry for my bad english:mad:

[zlojack]

Hi Gys,

is here somebody who have higher then 500FSB, on the Max Formula or Formula@Rampage, with little voltages, 24/7/Primestable???
Who are the screens of his Biossettings?
I had with my E8500@Max Formula 470 MaxFSB!
Now @Rampage i have 520maxFSB but i need NB 1,712 load, FSB VTT 1,648 load PLL 1,7xx Load for stable. Thats crazy, or not?

Sorry for my bad english:mad:
I imagine at those voltages the chip won't last too long. High PLL and FSB VTT are not good for them.

[Cosmic81]

I imagine at those voltages the chip won't last too long. High PLL and FSB VTT are not good for them.

i have Rampage SE:p: , the Temps are not more then 41°C

Is this here not the Extreeme Forum:D

[zlojack]

i have Rampage SE:p: , the Temps are not more then 41°C

Is this here not the Extreeme Forum:D

It is. I was just making a comment. There's a whole thread about degradation and damage and it's suspected that temperature isn't the culprit with the 45nm chips as much as voltage. Specifically VTT and PLL have been mentioned.

Anyway, that's a sweet FSB OC, no question.

[Cosmic81]

It is. I was just making a comment. There's a whole thread about degradation and damage and it's suspected that temperature isn't the culprit with the 45nm chips as much as voltage. Specifically VTT and PLL have been mentioned.

Anyway, that's a sweet FSB OC, no question.

i now it;) , that was for a hour stability test, not more
2x Loop of Large FTTs 768K-896K-1024K only.

Sombody here who have higher then 500FSB@ low voltages?

[Grnfinger]

Hi Gys,

is here somebody who have higher then 500FSB, on the Max Formula or Formula@Rampage, with little voltages, 24/7/Primestable???
Who are the screens of his Biossettings?
I had with my E8500@Max Formula 470 MaxFSB!
Now @Rampage i have 520maxFSB but i need NB 1,712 load, FSBTV 1,648 load PLL 1,7xx Load for stable. Thats crazy, or not?

Sorry for my bad english:mad:

They are little excess for 24/7 imo
I can run my 8400 at 506FSB and not need anywhere near that amount of voltage.

CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050

[Krav]

Up your FSBT to 1.40 and re test, dont change any other setting

bsod, was about the same time into prime95 it bsod

[Cosmic81]

They are little excess for 24/7 imo
I can run my 8400 at 506FSB and not need anywhere near that amount of voltage.

CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050

THX

are the bios or loadsettings?

[Grnfinger]

bios settings


strangely, I have the WORST series of Crucial "one-sided" 1066mhz sticks: the 8EF5, 4x1gb

running nice in @ 1101mhz, 5-5-5-15 2.20V
Just need to know HOW MUCH time will it be this way..........

if it dies, so DIE, damn!!, motherstrucking DImm's................
dominators are on it's way!!!! :D

You know that Crucial and this board are NOT compatible

[Utnorris]

Ok, so I have two issues that I need help with if someone knows.

1 - I am currently running at 400x9, when I switch to 450x8 so that I can play with different dividers for the ram it doesn't boot. PC comes on but nothing on the screen. I have tried the bios settings from here, Anandtech's suggested settings for the P5E3 and some random ones and still no go. I even tried auto on everything including the ram except for these:
vcore - 1.5v
NB - 1.6v
PLL - 1.6v
ram - 2.2v
FSBV - 1.6v
FSB - 450
Multi - 8

I am obviously missing something and since I know my chip will run at 450x8 (did it in my P35-DS3R and when I first connected this MB) I am at a lost now. I will keep playing with it over the weekend, but any suggestions please let me know.

Also, on a side note, it seems that if the PC does not boot I have to power off the PSU before it will do anything. The reset and power button stop working. Also, after doing this, I have to redo the clock to current time and re-enter my bios settings (luckily they are saved in one my profiles). I am going to try changing the battery, but it would be the first time I have ever had to swap out the bios battery in all my years of building PC's so I find that odd, but you never know.

Anyway, thank you in advance and if I figure it out I will post it for future reference.

Utnorris

[Grnfinger]

Ok, so I have two issues that I need help with if someone knows.

1 - I am currently running at 400x9, when I switch to 450x8 so that I can play with different dividers for the ram it doesn't boot. PC comes on but nothing on the screen. I have tried the bios settings from here, Anandtech's suggested settings for the P5E3 and some random ones and still no go. I even tried auto on everything including the ram except for these:
vcore - 1.5v
NB - 1.6v
PLL - 1.6v
ram - 2.2v
FSBV - 1.6v
FSB - 450
Multi - 8

I am obviously missing something and since I know my chip will run at 450x8 (did it in my P35-DS3R and when I first connected this MB) I am at a lost now. I will keep playing with it over the weekend, but any suggestions please let me know.

Also, on a side note, it seems that if the PC does not boot I have to power off the PSU before it will do anything. The reset and power button stop working. Also, after doing this, I have to redo the clock to current time and re-enter my bios settings (luckily they are saved in one my profiles). I am going to try changing the battery, but it would be the first time I have ever had to swap out the bios battery in all my years of building PC's so I find that odd, but you never know.

Anyway, thank you in advance and if I figure it out I will post it for future reference.

Utnorris

Because of a skweaky wheel, they have merged the thread, so I'm not sure if your running a Maximus or a modded Maximus to Rampage, everything is so muddy now, but hey the powers that be know more than we
If you could say what your running and what bios version and post your bios setup for 450x8 please.

I find the rampage bios 308 a fussy :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:, 1 wrong setting and no go.

[Zucker2k]

Because of a skweaky wheel, they have merged the thread, so I'm not sure if your running a Maximus or a modded Maximus to Rampage, everything is so muddy now, but hey the powers that be know more than we
If you could say what your running and what bios version and post your bios setup for 450x8 please.

I find the rampage bios 308 a fussy :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:, 1 wrong setting and no go.

Actually, while all previous RF bioses couldn't touch MF1004, I find that RF0308 is actually a tad better. I've actually switched from my very capable 8400 (see sig.) to an "average" Q6600 @ 8x476, 5:6, 24/7 (Prime stable) on bios RF0308.

*Cough* Those in the market for 45nm technology know where to look. *Cough*

[miptzi]

You know that Crucial and this board are NOT compatible

I do. But, whatever...... The crucial's where just gathering dust in my desktop. I've got it cheap, so I will "give a try"......

like I said, Dominator's on the way....

[ericab]

I do. But, whatever...... The crucial's where just gathering dust in my desktop. I've got it cheap, so I will "give a try"......

like I said, Dominator's on the way....

dominators FTW :up:

[Utnorris]

Because of a skweaky wheel, they have merged the thread, so I'm not sure if your running a Maximus or a modded Maximus to Rampage, everything is so muddy now, but hey the powers that be know more than we
If you could say what your running and what bios version and post your bios setup for 450x8 please.

I find the rampage bios 308 a fussy :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:, 1 wrong setting and no go.

Actually, I am running a Blitz Formula, bios 1504. I was told that the information here would be pretty similar for my board since there is not a dedicated Blitz thread. As far as the actual bios settings, I will post them tomorrow night after I get off of work. Anyway, since I am using the Blitz I am not sure if anyone will be able to help me since my bios may be slightly different, I was just hoping that someone might have had it before they went to the Maximus/Rampage boards and had an idea what was causing it. I know its something simple and I will probably kick myself when I figure it out, but still any ideas would be helpful.
Thanks for the patience,
Utnorris

[cuke2u]

bios settings



You know that Crucial and this board are NOT compatible

:rofl:
Chris

[ElEctric_EyE]

For us guys using Dominators, I would like to rec this thread... I am waiting for a thread on the PC2 10000. They're still expensive at almost $500 for 4GBx2. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179555

[cyrixMII300]

bios settings



You know that Crucial and this board are NOT compatible

whoever said that crucial and this board are not comparable??? been running mine as a couple from day one and not a single problem. these are able to run upto 1199MHz easily

[binormalkilla]

All right I'm flashing tonight. In your opinions what is the best BIOS for a Q6600, 2x2Gb of RAM, and a maximum FSB......I was stable at 475 on sometimes (haven't figured it out yet...) so hopefully this will let me get back to stability at 475 or even more......

[Grnfinger]

whoever said that crucial and this board are not comparable??? been running mine as a couple from day one and not a single problem. these are able to run upto 1199MHz easily

if you'd botherd to research b4 making comments you would know that CRUCIAL SAID IT.

Engineers at Crucial have invalidated the compatibility listing for X38/48 boards. As of 3/7/2008 Crucial no longer lists X38/48 as a compatible chipset for their DDR2 800 and DDR2 1066 sticks of Ballistix Tracers.

[cyrixMII300]

if you'd botherd to research b4 making comments you would know that CRUCIAL SAID IT.

Engineers at Crucial have invalidated the compatibility listing for X38/48 boards. As of 3/7/2008 Crucial no longer lists X38/48 as a compatible chipset for their DDR2 800 and DDR2 1066 sticks of Ballistix Tracers.

thanks for the clarification mate. but as i said earlier, i am running my crucial as per my sig and i have no problems regardless of what crucial says and it has been running well for the past 6mths more or less.

btw mate, could you give me the link on crucial's page where the invalidation is stated? thank you

[Krav]

So ive got my q6600 running at 367x9 for 3.3ghz my voltages are below. I tried ocing to 378x9 for 3.4ghz and upped the voltage to 1.28 for cpu and NB to 1.38 ( real voltage ) and Blue screened in prime95. So need some tips about what would be good values to work with to reach 3.4.

CPU Voltage : 1.281 = 1.26
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.33 = 1.36
DRAM Voltage : 2.00 = 2.13
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 = 1.09
Loadline Calibration : Enable

My cpu idles at about 40-44 @ idle during prime95 load can reach 65, so if any changes are made gotta try not let it go much above these if possible.

Help! :)

Anyone else got any ideas to how i should go about reaching 3.4ghz i tried upping the FSBTV to 1.40 with Grnfingers suggestion but didnt help. Really want to hit 3.4 as its close to my ram speed currently having to run at 978 when ram is stated at 1000.

[Grnfinger]

Anyone else got any ideas to how i should go about reaching 3.4ghz i tried upping the FSBTV to 1.40 with Grnfingers suggestion but didnt help. Really want to hit 3.4 as its close to my ram speed currently having to run at 978 when ram is stated at 1000.

I would up FSBT to 1.40
NB 1.47
then slowly up vcore till its stable. After its stable try lowering the FSBT and NB volts one at a time, dont change everything at once.

[Zucker2k]

I would up FSBT to 1.40
NB 1.47
then slowly up vcore till its stable. After its stable try lowering the FSBT and NB volts one at a time, dont change everything at once.

Or you can start by posting all your settings.

[rangerone7669]

thanks for the clarification mate. but as i said earlier, i am running my crucial as per my sig and i have no problems regardless of what crucial says and it has been running well for the past 6mths more or less.

btw mate, could you give me the link on crucial's page where the invalidation is stated? thank you

i've killed 4 sticks crucial lanfest so far thier on rma atm.

my real question is-

i need a cpu for my backup rig since my e2180 isnt cutting it for what i want. so i figured i'd take the q6600 out of my main rig.(specs in my sig)

what would be a good upgrade from a q6600 in these maximus/rampage boards. are the yorkfields clocking well in these? or should i just get a wolfdale for the backup rig and keep the q6600.

[ZenEffect]

i've killed 4 sticks crucial lanfest so far thier on rma atm.

my real question is-

i need a cpu for my backup rig since my e2180 isnt cutting it for what i want. so i figured i'd take the q6600 out of my main rig.(specs in my sig)

what would be a good upgrade from a q6600 in these maximus/rampage boards. are the yorkfields clocking well in these? or should i just get a wolfdale for the backup rig and keep the q6600.

ive got a spare q6600 with vid 1.225 if you are interested. just got it yesterday and only tested for vid.

[kup]

ive got a spare q6600 with vid 1.225 if you are interested. just got it yesterday and only tested for vid.

Where are you? If he's not interested, I might be. :cool:

[lowboy]

Help on temps as these temps seem crazy to me but have played with AMD since the old northwood days so may be normal but.....
Coretemp and Everest read CPU core temps as 47-51C idle and 62-66C full load. Mobo CPU reading 25-40c idle/load. Have remounted 5 or 6 times using MX2 or AS5 with same results. Mounting using the Dtek pro mount so mount should be good. CPU is at 1.37V but have dropped to stock speed and voltage but temps only drop about 1-2C.
Even tried removing the CPU hold down and using HS as hold down thinking the HS may be hitting plate made no difference.
HELP!

[ZenEffect]

Where are you? If he's not interested, I might be. :cool:
bought the cpu from this post
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2915644&postcount=2567

i live in los angeles california usa

but i dont mind international shipping as i get a really good shipping rate and i know how to avoid duties and taxes (vat) ;).

just drop me a pm as we are getting off topic here but i would do it for what i paid for it.

[Krav]

I would up FSBT to 1.40
NB 1.47
then slowly up vcore till its stable. After its stable try lowering the FSBT and NB volts one at a time, dont change everything at once.

Okay i will try that. Thanks


Or you can start by posting all your settings.

Well theres not much more that i changed ram is 5-5-5-18 and fsb strap is auto and voltages ive already shown

[loften]

i got my maximus se to rampage 308 bios and everything is working good at 3.6.. it was a little tricky getting the first settings and finding ones that worked. my temps are very good for air and the voltages are not very high.. the only downside which is a super bummer is no matter what i tried the thing would not hold raid aray.. i have been trying everything for months.. i gave up and installed a single hard drive on ide and it stays running.. no problems yet. i may try to get a raid card and install it to see if i can get my raptors to actually work. i took the stock heat sink off so i don't think i can return the board or if they even have any left to replace it with. so i am going to eventually get a different board if the card doesn't work for raid on it.. i used the rampage guide on the first page and everything went flawless. i found some settings using the search on this thread since things are combined and came up with some good starting points.. thanks..

[Grnfinger]

i got my maximus se to rampage 308 bios and everything is working good at 3.6.. it was a little tricky getting the first settings and finding ones that worked. my temps are very good for air and the voltages are not very high.. the only downside which is a super bummer is no matter what i tried the thing would not hold raid aray.. i have been trying everything for months.. i gave up and installed a single hard drive on ide and it stays running.. no problems yet. i may try to get a raid card and install it to see if i can get my raptors to actually work. i took the stock heat sink off so i don't think i can return the board or if they even have any left to replace it with. so i am going to eventually get a different board if the card doesn't work for raid on it.. i used the rampage guide on the first page and everything went flawless. i found some settings using the search on this thread since things are combined and came up with some good starting points.. thanks..


I run a raid0 what exactly is your problem with raid?
Maybe we can help sort your issue out.

[loften]

i tried raid 0 with 2 new raptors when i first built the computer.. it failed a drive. we stuck it in my brothers and it worked just fine. i got a couple other raptors anyway. i tried raid 0 again a few times with different drives. raid 5, raid 10 a few times also. i now have 5 raptors. raid 10 with parrity would last the longest but eventually after a few drives rebuilding it would go away also.. updated drivers, upping my nb volts pretty much everything.. new sata cables. i even changed out my 4x1 sticks of crucial balistix with 2x2 sticks of corsair to see if that was causing it. i think my board is just hosed on the raid controller or somthing.. the only thing i havn't changed was my psu which is a x3 1k but it seams to run just fine with everything.. i pretty much got installing everything over and over again down so at least i learned a bunch in that aspect. it would work for a day or two a week or more then a drive would drop off. if i restarted my computer a different one would and sometimes if i restarted again it wouldn't show any bad drives.. it's very strange..

[Eastcoasthandle]

Do we have a new bios in our mist? Can anyone confirm this Bios 1006 (http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20080420131924953&board_id=1&model=Maximus+Formula&page=1&SLanguage=en-us)?

[Zucker2k]

i tried raid 0 with 2 new raptors when i first built the computer.. it failed a drive. we stuck it in my brothers and it worked just fine. i got a couple other raptors anyway. i tried raid 0 again a few times with different drives. raid 5, raid 10 a few times also. i now have 5 raptors. raid 10 with parrity would last the longest but eventually after a few drives rebuilding it would go away also.. updated drivers, upping my nb volts pretty much everything.. new sata cables. i even changed out my 4x1 sticks of crucial balistix with 2x2 sticks of corsair to see if that was causing it. i think my board is just hosed on the raid controller or somthing.. the only thing i havn't changed was my psu which is a x3 1k but it seams to run just fine with everything.. i pretty much got installing everything over and over again down so at least i learned a bunch in that aspect. it would work for a day or two a week or more then a drive would drop off. if i restarted my computer a different one would and sometimes if i restarted again it wouldn't show any bad drives.. it's very strange..
Try raising your pci-e latency to 110. See if that helps. what are your SB/SB 1.5v figures?

[loften]

right now on the rampage 308 bios at 3.6 with the single drive it is.. which was pretty much where i had it when the raid was installed other then upping the nb volts a little more to test. i tried pci-e 105,110,111,112 also..i was kind of lost on why it would not stay working. i tried for a couple months .i gave up on it a couple days ago.. i am still learning the rampage bios.. so maybe after i find out how all the settings work i can try raiding it again.. it's hard finding others reference bios settings now that the thread got combined. i searched and searched and can't find the link.. i found it once and should have bookmarked it..

[MrHydes]

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2079/21080marksgy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5886/cpu4513ef4.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8942/gpuz9800gx2ad2.gif (http://imageshack.us)


CPU-Z validation (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=349393)

[cuke2u]

if you'd botherd to research b4 making comments you would know that CRUCIAL SAID IT.

Engineers at Crucial have invalidated the compatibility listing for X38/48 boards. As of 3/7/2008 Crucial no longer lists X38/48 as a compatible chipset for their DDR2 800 and DDR2 1066 sticks of Ballistix Tracers.

Hi, well they still recommend their memory on the Crucial's website http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=Maximus%20Formula%20%28Specia l%20Edition%29

I also have been using crucial memory since I first purchased the motherboard back in october '07...
Chris

[zlojack]

Hi, well they still recommend their memory on the Crucial's website http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=Maximus%20Formula%20%28Specia l%20Edition%29

I also have been using crucial memory since I first purchased the motherboard back in october '07...
Chris

Those are PC2-5300 suggestions. Grnfinger specifically said DDR2800 and 1066 modules.

[Krav]

is NB voltage @ 1.41 good for 24/7 as i want rig to last more than 2 years :o

[kup]

Been playing with my voltages a bit... With Performance Level @ 8 (PIns Enabled) or @ 7 (PIns Disabled) I need 1.71v (Bios) to not get the DetDram error on random boots. I need less than 1.61v to actually run it Prime/Orthos/OCCT/Folding stable but 1.71v (Bios) to stop the error. Quirky board.

I'm going to test some Micron D9 Fatbody in it soon, some no name eBay stuff that is good for 1200MHz 5-5-5-12 with 2.4v (Fatbody FTW)!

[rcjian]

Hi, well they still recommend their memory on the Crucial's website http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=Maximus%20Formula%20%28Specia l%20Edition%29

I also have been using crucial memory since I first purchased the motherboard back in october '07...
Chris


Those are PC2-5300 suggestions. Grnfinger specifically said DDR2800 and 1066 modules.

DDR2 800 and 1066 are on the list when you scroll down:)

[Imprint]

I have a bios template that's 8 hours OCCT stable and 2 hours stable in MemTest 2.01. My only question is, is there anything I can do to this to make the timings/performance better? Any suggestions on why the Row Refresh Cycle Time hangs with anything lower then 45 and why I can't set the Transaction Booster to Manual? Other then that it's rock solid on my Maximus/Rampage!! :up:

I got G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ and E8400 BTW..









MAXIMUS/RAMPAGE FORMULA 0308 BIOS.
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8 (change to 9 for 4.5ghz)
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1002
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45 (any lower and i get DET DRAM no matter what i do)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Auto (setting this to manual gets DET DRAM no matter what i do)

CPU Voltage : 1.40625
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.67
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 (set to 2.04 according to G.SKILL)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF


CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[zlojack]

DDR2 800 and 1066 are on the list when you scroll down:)

Doh! You're right. :rofl:

Someone's screwing up somewhere then.

[miptzi]

DDR2 800 and 1066 are on the list when you scroll down:)

It maybe on the lists, but THEY say on MSN and livechat that it's NOT supported anymore.....

I do hate that, but mine are working fine .....

[TouGe]

Do we have a new bios in our mist? Can anyone confirm this Bios 1006 (http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20080420131924953&board_id=1&model=Maximus+Formula&page=1&SLanguage=en-us)?

I'll give it a go but it wouldn't be until sometime Wednesday before I can flash.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Been playing with my voltages a bit... With Performance Level @ 8 (PIns Enabled) or @ 7 (PIns Disabled) I need 1.71v (Bios) to not get the DetDram error on random boots. I need less than 1.61v to actually run it Prime/Orthos/OCCT/Folding stable but 1.71v (Bios) to stop the error. Quirky board.

I'm going to test some Micron D9 Fatbody in it soon, some no name eBay stuff that is good for 1200MHz 5-5-5-12 with 2.4v (Fatbody FTW)!

I couldn't agree with you more on this. I also need to set the NB volt at 1.65v in bios to eliminate det ram hang for higher FSB OC with a Q6600 G0. See my sig for OC details. The performance level found in RF bios does affect the NB volt that you need to set to get your OC stable and to eliminate det ram hang. Performance level 8 with pull-ins enabled or level 7 disabled seems to be the sweet spot for higher fsb OC at >450+

As for AI Clock Twister, I need to tuned it down to moderate from stronger when I OC the fsb from 465 to 470. After you've reached FSB450, every 5 fsb interval advancement seems to be the next level barrier.

[Riztnack]

I am unable to flash back to formula maximus. when I try it says error reading rom file. I have tryed using all the maximus Rom files but they do say the same thing to me.

I type in afudos /imf0907.rom /n /pbnc and also try afudos /imf0907.rom /pbnc /n and neither work. I am using the engineer version afudos 2.29es, it was linked to me by a forum member. So on the the jump drive I have 2 files, the rom and afudos anything else I should have? and yes it is a bootable jump drive.

What could I possibly be doing wrong?

[cuke2u]

It maybe on the lists, but THEY say on MSN and livechat that it's NOT supported anymore.....

I do hate that, but mine are working fine .....

Hi, who is 'they', it is fair enough if the engineers state that crucial memory isn't compatible but it is confusing when crucial still advertise it as being ram that is a "guaranteed-compatible memory upgrade". Someone somewhere is telling porkies and getting us all confused but I am sure that Grnfinger is passing on the facts as he knows it...
Chris

[Maglin]

I thought I read back when the x38 was released that pushing NBv past 1.60v resulted in lots of fried NB's. I've not gone past 1.61 NBv as I was worried about toasting it. I've recently set my Q6600 back to 400x9 as 450x8 would result in the Vista idle reboot. And it had primed for over 28 hours and OCCT for over 24 hours. Really fusterating. I think tonight I'll try giving the NB some more juice. I had my G.Skill's PC28000 2gb sticks running at 1080 and it was just flying. Back to 1066 and 400 FSB is just disappointing after running it for a week at 450fsb. How long has any of you pushed 1.65 NBv for?

[bummerboy]

I thought I read back when the x38 was released that pushing NBv past 1.60v resulted in lots of fried NB's. I've not gone past 1.61 NBv as I was worried about toasting it. I've recently set my Q6600 back to 400x9 as 450x8 would result in the Vista idle reboot. And it had primed for over 28 hours and OCCT for over 24 hours. Really fusterating. I think tonight I'll try giving the NB some more juice. I had my G.Skill's PC28000 2gb sticks running at 1080 and it was just flying. Back to 1066 and 400 FSB is just disappointing after running it for a week at 450fsb. How long has any of you pushed 1.65 NBv for?

Dude, you need to put a fan over the nb sink, or water cool it. x38 isnt very stable over 45-47C once overclock, and asus sink sucks no matter what their website/press releases say about the pin-fin.

[loften]

i messed with my comp a little yesterday trying to see what it would do on air. i got it to boot up at 3.8x and load into windows. i have been playing some games with it on 3.6 and it would crash every once in a while when my room would get hot.. my room is facing the sun most the day. i tested with occt2.0 at 3.6 and my cpu statrted getting up there. so i shut it down at 65 c. i took the stock fan off the heat sink and glued a case fan on top of a empty case fan housing to give it a little room and glued it to the stock heat sink. then plugged the fan into case 3 fan plug and ran it at 100%. i ignored the cpu fan function. it droped the temp at idle a few degrees and quite a few under load. the stock fan would only run up to about 1700rpm and this one is running at 2700 rpm. so here is somthing that changed everything for me. i don't know what was causing this but since this board was new, i would get a double boot when i turned the computer on or restarted it after leaving bios. it would spin the fan shut off then power up. now it starts and restarts like a normal computer should every time and the only other thing i did was lock the sb volt at 1.5 instead of it being on auto. it runs at the same numbers as auto did but now i have no more double start?

[Riztnack]

I am unable to flash back to formula maximus. when I try it says error reading rom file. I have tryed using all the maximus Rom files but they do say the same thing to me.

I type in afudos /imf0907.rom /n /pbnc and also try afudos /imf0907.rom /pbnc /n and neither work. I am using the engineer version afudos 2.29es, it was linked to me by a forum member. So on the the jump drive I have 2 files, the rom and afudos anything else I should have? and yes it is a bootable jump drive.

What could I possibly be doing wrong?

can anyone help me with this?

[terranaut]

on my MF board, i have a q6600 and a q9450, but the NB runs at 2.20-2.30 that it show in BIOS and shows in any windows app like everest, coretemp, etc. this is showing whether bios is set to all auto, some auto, or manual set; nothing makes a difference the NB keeps showing 2.20-2.30 but i dont know if thats a reporting bug or actual voltage crisis. this is with any bios from 0903 to 1004 and 1006, and with either cpu and either geil or corsair pc8500 memory..

should i just rma the board, or is there something do fix this, or can someone show me where to use a multimeter to check manually the voltage, since 2.2 on NB if true means my days would be numbered.

[kup]

I am unable to flash back to formula maximus. when I try it says error reading rom file. I have tryed using all the maximus Rom files but they do say the same thing to me.

I type in afudos /imf0907.rom /n /pbnc and also try afudos /imf0907.rom /pbnc /n and neither work. I am using the engineer version afudos 2.29es, it was linked to me by a forum member. So on the the jump drive I have 2 files, the rom and afudos anything else I should have? and yes it is a bootable jump drive.

What could I possibly be doing wrong?


can anyone help me with this?

By the look of it you're spelling the filenames (or at least the bios names) with lower case when they are infact all upper case it most bios (especially the ones in this thread.

[Riztnack]

I figured it out, it was the rom file name that was the problem. once I altered it I got it all working.

I have also found a newer engineering verison of afudos if anyone wants it, it worked for me to go back to formula maximus

[kup]

Which version? We've got 2.29 and 2.36 both ES.

[Riztnack]

it was 2.36u

[Zucker2k]

By the look of it you're spelling the filenames (or at least the bios names) with lower case when they are infact all upper case it most bios (especially the ones in this thread.

Lower or uppercase should make no difference.

[kup]

Lower or uppercase should make no difference.

It does with AFUDOS. I had the same problem at one point and uppercase fixed it. :D

[Krav]

Can anyone tell me if a nb voltage of 1.41 is good for 3.4ghz?

[cyrixMII300]

It maybe on the lists, but THEY say on MSN and livechat that it's NOT supported anymore.....

I do hate that, but mine are working fine .....

the way I see it... if at all my ram dies on me now and its clearly stated somewhere by Crucial that the ram is not supported... that just leaves the option of getting my money back or getting better ram from them. which if they dont agree to do i will go to court... its called misrepresentation of information or false advertisement.

anyhow, i dont think crucial would want a problem in their hands, if indeed there was a massive problem, there would also be a recall of the products. just my opinion mates.

[dimsdale]

anyhow, i dont think crucial would want a problem in their hands, if indeed there was a massive problem, there would also be a recall of the products. just my opinion mates.

Check this out...http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16820148069
It's the customer reviews for the Ballistix at Newegg. As you can see from the review, these memory sticks have been garbage for a few months now, but Crucial has not recalled them.

A. What the heck is Crucial thinking?!?
B. Why the heck is newegg still selling sticks with such a high RMA rate??

[Sources]

Check this out...http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16820148069
It's the customer reviews for the Ballistix at Newegg. As you can see from the review, these memory sticks have been garbage for a few months now, but Crucial has not recalled them.

A. What the heck is Crucial thinking?!?
B. Why the heck is newegg still selling sticks with such a high RMA rate??

I bet 95% of these people having problems wouldn't if they knew how to overclock before pushing them so hard and also would COOL their RAM.

Though I admit the new single sided modules dont clock as well as the older double sided. But they still do clock to about 900ish

[Nuckin_Futs]

Hi Gys,

is here somebody who have higher then 500FSB, on the Max Formula or Formula@Rampage, with little voltages, 24/7/Primestable???
Who are the screens of his Biossettings?
I had with my E8500@Max Formula 470 MaxFSB!
Now @Rampage i have 520maxFSB but i need NB 1,712 load, FSBTV 1,648 load PLL 1,7xx Load for stable. Thats crazy, or not?

Sorry for my bad english:mad:I am one for 500FSB daily. This mobo does 500FSB with ease on as little as 1.488v NB. It is the CPU thatr will holfd it back, and the quads hold it back more so then duals. The E7x50/E8x50's do it with ease, even on air.


if you'd botherd to research b4 making comments you would know that CRUCIAL SAID IT.

Engineers at Crucial have invalidated the compatibility listing for X38/48 boards. As of 3/7/2008 Crucial no longer lists X38/48 as a compatible chipset for their DDR2 800 and DDR2 1066 sticks of Ballistix Tracers.
What exactly are they, Crucial or Intel stating as an issue of the RAM to deam it not compatable with X38/X48. I though it was as compatable w/ P35. I baught this PC2-8500 Tracers new for my ASUS P5K Deluxe over a year ago now and moved it to 2 MAXIMUS' and left in one as daily OC'd for over 6+ months. I get the det_ram randomly on the 2nd MF SE but is fine if I jsut reset, even during resume from S4/STHDD (Hibernate).

What top notch RAM is getting the scores of the origional Ballistix but with less vdimm? Any OCZ Titanium PC2-8500/PC29200's users on this mobo to 1200MHz daily? My Titanium PC2-6400 at 2x2g can do 1050 on 2.2v daily on air so just curious.


is NB voltage @ 1.41 good for 24/7 as i want rig to last more than 2 years :o1.41 (actual) is excelent for this mobo and good to 415FSB on average, less if on divider and or more then 2 RAM slots used.


it was 2.36u
Link Please (easy access, no sign up required)?


Check this out...http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16820148069
It's the customer reviews for the Ballistix at Newegg. As you can see from the review, these memory sticks have been garbage for a few months now, but Crucial has not recalled them.

A. What the heck is Crucial thinking?!?
B. Why the heck is newegg still selling sticks with such a high RMA rate??
C'mon guys and gals, you gotta' take a lot of what retail end users review with a 25% noob factor and another 25% BS factor. Nothing to do with NewEgg (I like 'em and use 'em myself), just peepz in general, quick to reply with little knowledge or testing. Granted a few are showing up as not so OC'able liek before. I'd take better judgement from what you read on our forums here then retail review.

[kup]

Link Please (easy access, no sign up required)?

First post has links that don't require registration for both 2.29ES and 2.36ES.

[Riztnack]

AFUDOS (http://rapidshare.com/files/109386259/AFUDOS236-ENGINEERING_EDITION.zip.html)

there is the link for the version I was able to obtain

[trt740]

hey guys anyone know if there will be a problem with this ram and a maximus forumla Rampage formula.It has 2 gb sticks and looks like a good deal

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227299

[ericab]

for those of u with usenet access looking for afudos, i uploaded it there a while ago; just incase :)

[Grnfinger]

What exactly are they, Crucial or Intel stating as an issue of the RAM to deam it not compatable with X38/X48. I though it was as compatable w/ P35. I baught this PC2-8500 Tracers new for my ASUS P5K Deluxe over a year ago now and moved it to 2 MAXIMUS' and left in one as daily OC'd for over 6+ months. I get the det_ram randomly on the 2nd MF SE but is fine if I jsut reset, even during resume from S4/STHDD (Hibernate).

What top notch RAM is getting the scores of the origional Ballistix but with less vdimm? Any OCZ Titanium PC2-8500/PC29200's users on this mobo to 1200MHz daily? My Titanium PC2-6400 at 2x2g can do 1050 on 2.2v daily on air so just curious.

OK seems I have created some controversy.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty with my post, But for the hell of it I called Crucial and they only offer PC5300 for Maximus support, did anyone else who actually owns this ram bother to call??
Anyways the information comes from BlazinPC and I take it as correct, for I see no reason for the respected poster to lie or mislead ppl.
http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/notice_x38_x48_ballistix_tracers-11830/index.html

Now you can make your own mind up on if they support or do not, personally I do not care anymore.

[Nuckin_Futs]

hey guys anyone know if there will be a problem with this ram and a maximus forumla Rampage formula.It has 2 gb sticks and looks like a good deal

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227299
I secon that. Or the OCZ PC2-8500 Platinum 2x2g kit? Or atleast getting better then our old Tracers of matched spd and timings? I can speak for my Titanium of PC2-6400 OC'd to 1000 daily on 2.2v and they are solid and require less cooling effort then many others. The heatsink is simpole yet effective. However, I too would love to hear more about those PC2-8500 FLEX XLC series in 2x2g kitsa for overclocking on x38. I'm speaking of 1150~1200MHz and above, since this is the norm for most of us on this mobo these days.

Is anybody seeing steady stability in overclocking 2x2 g kits in same profile as previous 2x1 g kits of any good quality RAM?

[rangerone7669]

well i was running crucial lanfest before they died in my maximus flashed to a rampage. those are on rma now, should get them back soon. in the meantime i used some d9 based adata's, which worked ok but not great.

i bought a set of transcend axeram 1200mhz sticks and cant be happier with these. running them at 1253mhz and its like a whole new machine.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6877/3760wn4.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3760wn4.jpg)