The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Nuckin_Futs]

I'm getting anctious waiting for the Q9450 yet I hear the Xeon X3350 can do the same 4GHz with ease. If this is true, I'll got for that instead. Anybody using a Xeon 45nm quad on the MAXIMUS yet? How is the FSB to over 485? Any links to good Xeon quad reviews for overclocking on air?

[Krav]

Thanks for tips guys got loadline calibration enabled now.

Ive got my CPU core voltage @ 1.30v and my fsb termination voltage at 1.30volts also, should i be keeping these at about the same? or can i lower fsb Termination much more? I will be experimenting lowering cpu voltage more but just not sure what i should be trying termination voltage at..

[loften]

put a fan over the nb like this. it lowered my nb and sb temps 10-15 degrees.

[safan80]

Cause I know for sure just before I got the corrupted v907, S3 failed at any FSB (even stock) and divider. I realize most will not use since most here are built for benchmarking and always on, but if anybody useing as a real world app workstation can comment.

as I said in an earlier post 0903 has S3 issues I'm using 1004 and haven't had any S3 issues. I'm even able to use lower voltages.

[Krav]

put a fan over the nb like this. it lowered my nb and sb temps 10-15 degrees.

might have to try that!

[safan80]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is it better to flash this board to the Rampage Formula BIOS, or the latest Maximus Formula beta BIOS? I have a board coming, and I want to get it set right the first time. I know the Rampage BIOS is a little dated compared to the Formula one, but I'm not sure if they've increased the FSB capability with the Formula one or not. Last I heard the Rampage one was getting higher FSB on peoples boards. Thanks

I would flash to the latest beta bios (1004) and wait for the rampage bioses to get better.

here's the difference between 0903(first pic) and 1004(2nd pic)

[Nuckin_Futs]

Sounds good so far, but what else for real world everyday use is fixed. S3/STR on a 5:6 divider is enough already. I just dont wanna' go through another BETA 907 disater.

Can any E6750/E6850 user confirm good results all around in BETA 1004? I'm really concidering that Xeon X3350 any high FSB overclock reviews yet?

[ChaosMinionX]

Sounds good so far, but what else for real world everyday use is fixed. S3/STR on a 5:6 divider is enough already. I just dont wanna' go through another BETA 907 disater.

Can any E6750/E6850 user confirm good results all around in BETA 1004? I'm really concidering that Xeon X3350 any high FSB overclock reviews yet?

Ill be using a X3350 here shortly, but my board is currently with the Rampage formula hack :)

[dude_500]

is "Core Voltage" under "CPU Physical Info" in EVEREST the VID? It's 1.300V on my Q6600 G0 and my actual voltage is at 1.47 so it's not the current voltage. I can't get most little vid apps to work being that I use xp 64 so I'm looking for the VID if this is not it.

[Grnfinger]

Sounds good so far, but what else for real world everyday use is fixed. S3/STR on a 5:6 divider is enough already. I just dont wanna' go through another BETA 907 disater.

Can any E6750/E6850 user confirm good results all around in BETA 1004? I'm really concidering that Xeon X3350 any high FSB overclock reviews yet?

MF 1004 is very 45nm friendly, On the Asus Taiwan FTP 1004 was listed as NON beta definately flash to it.
The Xeon is clocking better than the Q9450 from what I have seen.

[jwfitt]

Well I finally found some settings I'm happy with! Over 7 hours prime stable:



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 112

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : 60
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disable
- Relax Level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.39375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.30
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Setting : 9.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Auto

[Grnfinger]

I would flash to the latest beta bios (1004) and wait for the rampage bioses to get better.

here's the difference between 0903(first pic) and 1004(2nd pic)

I'm thinking the Rampage conversion is definately worth it for performance increase
My little C2D

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/bench-2.jpg

[eSp!s0]

Sounds good so far, but what else for real world everyday use is fixed. S3/STR on a 5:6 divider is enough already. I just dont wanna' go through another BETA 907 disater.

Can any E6750/E6850 user confirm good results all around in BETA 1004? I'm really concidering that Xeon X3350 any high FSB overclock reviews yet?

Very good results with E6750 and 1004 for me :up:
No higher OC, but very stable for me and no problems with the settings from 0903 (450x8 and 515x7), but don`t load OC Profile from another version, set settings again manually and save in OC Profile again after flash.
Also a very little bit more performance in Everest Cache/Mem bench, but it`s not much, really.

[rcjian]

First time in OC'ng. Started priming more than two hours ago using small ffts for a start. How long should I let it priming? I started my Vcore at 3.5 but it kept giving me error, so I add a little Volts at a time until I end up with 1.4625 V in bios but reading at 1.44 on probeII. Worried about the cpu temp which at 56 deg on load, should I? It is using an Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro.

Suggestions are welcome!!!:)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/rcjian/Pic.jpg

[Grnfinger]

First time in OC'ng. Started priming more than two hours ago using small ffts for a start. How long should I let it priming? I started my Vcore at 3.5 but it kept giving me error, so I add a little Volts at a time until I end up with 1.4625 V in bios but reading at 1.44 on probeII. Worried about the cpu temp which at 56 deg on load, should I? It is using an Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro.

Suggestions are welcome!!!:)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/rcjian/Pic.jpg

56c on load is more than ok I wouldn't worry about it.
Running prime is more of a gray area, some will ask for insane running time and others are satified with a few hours. I would run small fft's for 3-6 hours, if it passes switch to blend and run it for 6-12 hours and I would call that rock solid.

[rcjian]

56c on load is more than ok I wouldn't worry about it.
Running prime is more of a gray area, some will ask for insane running time and others are satified with a few hours. I would run small fft's for 3-6 hours, if it passes switch to blend and run it for 6-12 hours and I would call that rock solid.

Thanks! How about my Vcore? I'm jealous of those people whose CPUs are running at 1.35 v or so? Is mine at 1.4625V too high?

[cuke2u]

Thanks! How about my Vcore? I'm jealous of those people whose CPUs are running at 3.5 v or so? Is mine at 1.4625V too high?

Hi, I'd be worried about 56c under load in probe as it consistantly under reads temps at around 25c less than the actual core temps...
Chris

[rcjian]

Hi, I'd be worried about 56c under load in probe as it consistantly under reads temps at around 25c less than the actual core temps...
Chris

So which other programs to use for reading these temps that is more accurate?

[Grnfinger]

Everest is very acurate, grab the latest version and you'll be set.
Every chip is different, your vcore seems a tad high for 4.0GHz I need that for 4.4GHz, for 4.0 I can run around 1.34 - 1.35 volts

[Krav]

Could anyone tell me what i should be setting fsb termination voltage at when having cpu voltage at 1.28.

Thanks!

[initialised]

After Flashing my stable OC is no longer stable, performance monitoring apps (SpeedFan and nVidia Monitor) crash it. Guess I'll have to grab the Rampage versions of all the drivers and reinstall the apps.

[Wolf2000me]

After Flashing my stable OC is no longer stable, performance monitoring apps (SpeedFan and nVidia Monitor) crash it. Guess I'll have to grab the Rampage versions of all the drivers and reinstall the apps.

I've had this too and I'm still on the 907 formula bios. I just chose not to use Speedfan anymore and just use the PCprobe thingy. It had nothing to do with my settings being unstable as I haven't had a single stress test fail on me after that. It might be possible to just adjust speedfans settings but I never bothered.

I'm really itching to get this mod done but I don't really have the time to go through lots of time of stability testing atm :( Might be a while when I do.

But I wonder, when you've flashed to the Rampage bios, can one flash the bios later by the "more traditional" means ? :)
I'd assume it will but you guys probably know this for sure :)

[ZenEffect]

^ this only re-enforces what i said.

CHECK OUT PAGE 13 FOR UPDATED FLASH PROCEDURES.

[p2501]

Could anyone tell me what i should be setting fsb termination voltage at when having cpu voltage at 1.28.

Thanks!

Lowest possible setting that's still stable.

If it's stable at the lowest possible setting, then just leave it there. If not then work your way up until it's stable using OCCT in CPU setting. But considering the fact that you state this exact voltage leaves a faint suspicion that that is your stable voltage, am I wrong?

[initialised]

http://rapidshare.com/files/99518261/Rampage_Formula_219.zipThanks for that, hopefully it will help.

I can post at ~3.8GHz and boot to windows at 3.6GHz which are both higher that before Rampaging it but it's less stable at my usual 3.4GHz (8x425) and no longer stable at 3.2GHz.

So mixed results from me.

[Krav]

Lowest possible setting that's still stable.

If it's stable at the lowest possible setting, then just leave it there. If not then work your way up until it's stable using OCCT in CPU setting. But considering the fact that you state this exact voltage leaves a faint suspicion that that is your stable voltage, am I wrong?

Im experimenting with 1.26 voltage now for the cpu core @ 3.33 ghz, seems stable so far with fsb term voltage @ 1.30 so i will try lowest setting after test.

[Nuckin_Futs]

V1004! Cool, I'm concidering a try late this weekend. I mainly need it to be E6x50 friendly for now, or to test w/ my old GO Q6600 till I decide on X3350 or Q9450. So any actual BIOC options added or removed since 903? Is S3/STR stable w/ or w/o ACPI 2.0 Enabled? Is CPU BIOS reported corrected to read as cores 1/2 or 1-4 averaged?

How does the B3 Q6600 or recent rev play on this for temps v/s higher FSB OC?

EDIT: I'm have challanges trying to boot w/ Ai as Strong and or booster to Enabled w/ RAM in sig even to 2.3v What is likely holding this back, BIOS ver. or RAM? What RAM is getting same 1150+ w/ less vdimm?

[rcjian]

Hi, I'd be worried about 56c under load in probe as it consistantly under reads temps at around 25c less than the actual core temps...
Chris

I just downloaded the Trial Ver of Everest and started to prime again using Blend. CPU temp result is very close between Probe and Everest, actually almost all the readings are close to each other. Not sure about Core 1 and Core 2 temp though, why are they higher than the actual CPU temp on Everest?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/rcjian/Pic3.jpg

[p2501]

Im experimenting with 1.26 voltage now for the cpu core @ 3.33 ghz, seems stable so far with fsb term voltage @ 1.30 so i will try lowest setting after test.

Lucky bastard, look at my sig with what vcore I have to beat my chip.. :rofl:

[rangerone7669]

did the flash earlier today with very promising results. unfortunatly my crucial lanfest are on rma, and i bet i get junk single sided ram when they return my rma.

si i'm in the market for a new set of ram. what ram will get me about 1200mhz on these boards? was thinking of getting the axeram 1200mhz's but is there a better set out there?

running
maximus/rampage formula se
q6600 g0 455x8 fsb
2gigs of standard adata @910mhz
evga 8800gt
2 74gig raptors in raid
pcpower&cooling 750watt

[Grnfinger]

After Flashing my stable OC is no longer stable, performance monitoring apps (SpeedFan and nVidia Monitor) crash it. Guess I'll have to grab the Rampage versions of all the drivers and reinstall the apps.

there is no need to install the Rampage drivers for they are the same as the Maximus.
I would recommend a clean OS install, and some users reported that they need a drop or 2 more vCore after the mod.

[Grnfinger]

V1004! Cool, I'm concidering a try late this weekend. I mainly need it to be E6x50 friendly for now, or to test w/ my old GO Q6600 till I decide on X3350 or Q9450. So any actual BIOC options added or removed since 903? Is S3/STR stable w/ or w/o ACPI 2.0 Enabled? Is CPU BIOS reported corrected to read as cores 1/2 or 1-4 averaged?

How does the B3 Q6600 or recent rev play on this for temps v/s higher FSB OC?

EDIT: I'm have challanges trying to boot w/ Ai as Strong and or booster to Enabled w/ RAM in sig even to 2.3v What is likely holding this back, BIOS ver. or RAM? What RAM is getting same 1150+ w/ less vdimm?

My Corsair does 1175MHz @ 2.12 volts ( bios ) 2.21 volts (Everest)
they will also do 1275MHz @ 2.18 volts (bios) 2.26 (Everest)
Extrmely pleased with this kit, looking at grabbing a 2x2GB kit after I sell a kidney and grab a EK block for new gpu
1004 temps seem to be reporting correctly, or they did for me anyways, It could be your bios giving you grief, you seem to banging your head alot on a few issues with the 9?? series bios.



I just downloaded the Trial Ver of Everest and started to prime again using Blend. CPU temp result is very close between Probe and Everest, actually almost all the readings are close to each other. Not sure about Core 1 and Core 2 temp though, why are they higher than the actual CPU temp on Everest?

core temps are always higher, this is normal

[Krav]

Lucky bastard, look at my sig with what vcore I have to beat my chip.. :rofl:

well ive been doing very short tests as im impatient so wont no a sure guarantee if its stable till i run it overnight but im running @ 1.26 now 3.33 :D

and FSB termination at lowest voltage also that you mentioned :)

Guess im lucky my vid is 1.2500

[ElEctric_EyE]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is it better to flash this board to the Rampage Formula BIOS, or the latest Maximus Formula beta BIOS? I have a board coming, and I want to get it set right the first time. I know the Rampage BIOS is a little dated compared to the Formula one, but I'm not sure if they've increased the FSB capability with the Formula one or not. Last I heard the Rampage one was getting higher FSB on peoples boards. Thanks

I've had better luck with 1004, but I'm running a Q6600 and only running 2 sticks of ram. Seems like alot of E8400 and dual core users, and others using all four DIMM slots benefit from the extra settings of RF BIOS. If you're going to make an X38 NB act like a X48, you may want to consider active cooling, because you'll be pushing the volts on it.

[dimsdale]

Here's a basic question for you folks:
If I am 9 hours prime95 blend stable at certain settings, then I bump a) the multipler by .5 (to go from 3.6 GHz to 3.8 GHz) and b) the CPU volts a bit, and then prime95 starts to create rounding errors at 2 hours, is there any chance the problem is anything but the CPU volts?

In other words, does upping the CPU speed while touching nothing else impact any other settings in the BIOS besides CPU volts?

Thanks!

[XtremeTiramisu]

Here's a basic question for you folks:
If I am 9 hours prime95 blend stable at certain settings, then I bump a) the multipler by .5 (to go from 3.6 GHz to 3.8 GHz) and b) the CPU volts a bit, and then prime95 starts to create rounding errors at 2 hours, is there any chance the problem is anything but the CPU volts?

In other words, does upping the CPU speed while touching nothing else impact any other settings in the BIOS besides CPU volts?

Thanks!

If you only changed multi to get higher CPU mhz, not only you'll need to check your Vcore but also PLL and possibly your NB volt as well. It's best to post a full bios template so we can better see what may be the prob.

[rcjian]

Ok guys, I need help and suggestions here, today I ran prime95 at small FFTs settings for more than 5 hours with no errors. Then i switched to Blend settings and it primed for 2 hrs and 5 min until i get this error below on worker thread #2!
Any suggestion on my settings below are very much appreciated! Thanks...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/rcjian/pic4.jpg


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 891
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
( enabled will give better bandwidth but might create instability in ram)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0


CPU Voltage : 1.4625(showing 1.44-everest)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.43(showing 1.47-everest)
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Nuckin_Futs]

When I try to stress test RAM on divider 5;6 or 3:4 and in Prime 95 v25.5 blend , I usually just get hard reset, no errors or warning of any kind. What does this hint to? On my AMD test rig, it at least stops w/ an error in either tread before just blacking out and resetting.

This one if it doesnt just reset out of the blue, it has went to BSOD before reset. Just curious. This has happened on many BIOS ver. dut usually on the 5;6 divider under 480x8 or 500x8. It is stable at each. I'm just saying, when I was tweaking it to get there, I rarely ever go an error when on the divider, just reset/restart. Even when just close to stable. on MAX, I a few times might get a tread fail msg.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Ok guys, I need help and suggestions here, today I ran prime95 at small FFTs settings for more than 5 hours with no errors. Then i switched to Blend settings and it primed for 2 hrs and 5 min until i get this error below on worker thread #2!
Any suggestion on my settings below are very much appreciated! Thanks...


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 891
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
( enabled will give better bandwidth but might create instability in ram)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0


CPU Voltage : 1.4625
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


Prime small fft = stress on CPU primarily
Prime blend = more stress on the NB/Ram than CPU.

Try raising your NB Core, Vdimm(Ram volt) and a relaxed timings. Don't adjust all of the above in the same time. I'd suggest try NB core volt first since you're already good for ~2 hr blend.

[Grnfinger]

With 4GB I agree more NB juice 1.53-1.55 to start

[dimsdale]

I'm getting rounding errors in prime95 at 2 hours, 2 hours 45 mins, etc with NB voltage of 1.61 (bios = everest).
I would try increasing the relax to [1] or [2] and definitely your RAM volts.

[Wolf2000me]

^ this only re-enforces what i said.

CHECK OUT PAGE 13 FOR UPDATED FLASH PROCEDURES.

I did, page 14 is bookmarked ^^

The question was:
Can I use a program like Asus update to flash to the next released bios for the rampage when a rampage bios is running?

[kup]

I did, page 14 is bookmarked ^^

The question was:
Can I use a program like Asus update to flash to the next released bios for the rampage when a rampage bios is running?

You can. If you flashed using the newest method involving AFUDOS it'll set the ROMID to that of whatever bios you flash so Asus Update will work just fine. :cool:

[MrHydes]

Ok guys, I need help and suggestions here,


CPU Voltage : 1.4625
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO

i would suggest not to live the CPU PLL AUTO because it might give you
supid high voltagens and E8*** doesn't supports that much...
somone correct me if i'm wrong... at least with @0904 i don't leave anything in AUTO

[dimsdale]

somone correct me if i'm wrong... at least with @0904 i don't leave anything in AUTO

I agree. I don't leave much on AUTO because you don't know what the BIOS is doing. How can you troubleshoot settings if you don't know what they are?

[trt740]

I put my usb in the computer, using the usb boot program tell it to create a boot disk ,using the boot files that I downloaded , it formats the stick says it puts the files on the usb but it's blank? Also when you flash you don't use easy flash correct ? it should boot as a removable device? Also is the front page correct or has the method changed to flash the bios? Im not doing something right with the usb stick?

[zlojack]

There will be some shortly, working on getting some numbers together
Any more news on those numbers?:D

[BigKriss]

Latest bios `s available guys ? Links as well please ?

[cyrixMII300]

just an update for you guys. tried flashing to 1004 Beta yesterday and guess what. the stupid bios isnt stable with my quaddie even at my fully stable 3.6GHz which was running on 0907. naturally i decided to downgrade and had to go thru hell before i was able to do it. finally managed to complete it by 2am.

anyway, i am sticking to 0907 from now on unless some1 convinces me otherwise. its been the most stable bios for me so far.

still no luck on getting my quaddie stable on 4.0GHz.

[safan80]

just an update for you guys. tried flashing to 1004 Beta yesterday and guess what. the stupid bios isnt stable with my quaddie even at my fully stable 3.6GHz which was running on 0907.

anyway, i am sticking to 0907 from now on unless some1 convinces me otherwise. its been the most stable bios for me so far.

still no luck on getting my quaddie stable on 4.0GHz.

funny.. 0907 wasn't stable for me at all. I had gone back to 0903 but the S3 issues that were fixed in 0907 caused me to upgrade to 1004 which allowed me to lower my voltages and it runs faster than 0903.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2913131&postcount=2942

[cyrixMII300]

funny.. 0907 wasn't stable for me at all. I had gone back to 0903 but the S3 issues that were fixed in 0907 caused me to upgrade to 1004 which allowed me to lower my voltages and it runs faster than 0903.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2913131&postcount=2942

could it be that its because you are running 45nm processors? mine is 65nm and perhaps that might be the problem. i dont know though coz i tried running and running but it didnt do me no good.

[Grnfinger]

I agree. I don't leave much on AUTO because you don't know what the BIOS is doing. How can you troubleshoot settings if you don't know what they are?

Auto CPU PLL gives about 1.60v yu can measure it at anytime in your BIOS, Everest. Auto for CPU PLL is a good starting point as it adjusts acordingly to your overclock, then you can tweak it from there manually.



could it be that its because you are running 45nm processors? mine is 65nm and perhaps that might be the problem. i dont know though coz i tried running and running but it didnt do me no good.

you cant load a saved bios profile after flashing from 907 to 1004.
clear cmos and redo your settings manually, then resave your profile.
And 1004 has nothing to do with 65nm or 45nm, anybody with 4GB's or higher should go to 1004 for its the only bios with higher trfc
1004 is the best so far and its an official release on the Taiwan ftp. No longer beta, this has been disscussed b4 many pages back. I would look at how you flashed the board and retry it.

[Cosmic81]

Hi Gys,

how are the measure points of Vcore, NB, FSB and VDIMM voltage on the Maximus Formula?


Bios to Actual vDroop listing
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6334/001dj0wo6.png

Are the LoadlineCalib on or off on this list ?


THX


Cos

[Grnfinger]

Any more news on those numbers?:D

I'm trying to get someone with the same cpu to co-operate, there is little point in running a side by side with dis-similar hardware.
Everyone with a "real" Rampage seems to have a quad. Perhaps I will open a new thread and get some scores.
MC2K was going to do some tests b4 he sold his Rampage but we didnt get together in time to run them, hard when there is such a time zone difference

[Grnfinger]

You can. If you flashed using the newest method involving AFUDOS it'll set the ROMID to that of whatever bios you flash so Asus Update will work just fine. :cool:

So that was the purpose of loading those wr1/wr2.bat files?
Maybe this information should be included/posted so ppl are clear what method is best for them. With changing the rom id this will definately be an issue for some later on.
The newer method of flashing should be the prefered way as it makes no seroius changes in voiding the warranty

[kup]

The .BAT files edited parts of the bios usually locked out, so we could flash the Rampage bios. With the ES version of AFUDOS it doesn't need to be edited.

[dimsdale]

Auto CPU PLL gives about 1.60v yu can measure it at anytime in your BIOS, Everest.


You can see CPU PLL in Everest? That would be great. I'm running it now. What is it called in Everest? I can't find that in there.



1004 is the best so far and its an official release on the Taiwan ftp.

I was on the ASUS Taiwan site last night and managed to find the BIOS downloads and downloaded 1004, but the file size was identical to the "beta" from the global site.

Not sure what to make of that.

[jwfitt]

You can see CPU PLL in Everest? That would be great. I'm running it now. What is it called in Everest? I can't find that in there.

I believe under Computer->Sensor it is "South Bridge PLL." I could be completely wrong though :)

[iadstudio]

Hey guys. I've fallen victim to the random BSOD on this board. Previously rock solid settings now randomly and fairly regularly crash. Here's what I'm running.

3.6 cpu
1.66 vcore (I know it's high. but that's what the POS chip needs)
400 mhz fsb
960 mhz memory
2.00 vdimm
1.54 nb vcore
1.17 sb vcore
1.58 fsb vtt

The system doesn't crash under stress since I can play UT3 for hours at a time but randomly it will crash when idle or whenever. Could this be a degradation problem or is this just part of the Maximus owner experience?

[zlojack]

I'm trying to get someone with the same cpu to co-operate, there is little point in running a side by side with dis-similar hardware.
Everyone with a "real" Rampage seems to have a quad. Perhaps I will open a new thread and get some scores.
MC2K was going to do some tests b4 he sold his Rampage but we didnt get together in time to run them, hard when there is such a time zone difference

Gotcha. Well, I think I'm going to be picking up a Q6600 next week some time, so if you want me to run anything, let me know. I'll contribute.

[cuke2u]

I just downloaded the Trial Ver of Everest and started to prime again using Blend. CPU temp result is very close between Probe and Everest, actually almost all the readings are close to each other. Not sure about Core 1 and Core 2 temp though, why are they higher than the actual CPU temp on Everest?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/rcjian/Pic3.jpg

Hi, ofcourse it will, both are reading from the external diode, you need to read your core temps which are measured internally...
Chris

[Talonman]

I need help... ;)

These were my current best BIOS 907 settings for 3.81GHz with my Q6600 GO. As soon as I deinstalled my 8600 GT, and replaced it with an 9800 GX2, my favorite stable 3.8GHz BIOS settings would not boot withought getting a CPU Check on my Maximus LCD Poster. It booted fine using the BIOS default settings.

I had to then load in my saved OC profile in, and back er down to 3.3GHz.

I need to go back to OCing my system to get my 3.8GHz back. I was thinking it was just a CPU voltage issue, but have given it 2 small bumps with only getting back to 3.4GHz.

After an unsuccessful 3.5GHz attempt, I ran into that Maximus CMOS error message, that only time heals. (The clear CMOS button did not help me out.)

I must have tried 10 times booting unsuccessfully to get around the CMOS ERROR on the LCD Poster. The display would go from 'INIT ROM' to 'CMOS ERR' to System lockes up...

I was real close to removing the battery, but that was under the GX2 and I didn't want to take it back out. I chilled for 20 minutes with the power off to the PC. After some Captain Black, I was ready to try again...

Came back in, hit the system with power, and it acted like it was fine again!! Booted right up.

Loaded the last successful OC profile back in that worked with some light OCCT testing, then backed that down a tad for saftey. 3.4GHz is where she currently sits.

My gut feeling is that I am so new at OCing CPU's, that it just needs a BIOS adjustment that I havent tried yet...

The CMOS error did give me pause though... Scarry stuff for me! ;)

I am trying to decide if I should go to the 1004 BIOS, or try and get 0907 to return my 3.8GHz...

I don't know what BIOS setting that my GX2 put more stress on that caused my system fo fail with a CPU check.

Any help would be appreachiated...

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 424
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-848MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.51250v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

My 4hour error free run using my 3.8GHz settings. Room temp was a brisk 55°F:
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8839/run10yv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I havent seen any settings for Q6600's on BIOS 1004 that were above 3.8GHz..

I would like to.... If I flash to 1004, I would like a starting point. (Newbie)
I am running with 1 2GB stick of ram rated at 1.8v, and 5-5-5-18 timings.

[TouGe]

The .BAT files edited parts of the bios usually locked out, so we could flash the Rampage bios. With the ES version of AFUDOS it doesn't need to be edited.

Is there a benefit either way?

[trt740]

hey fellas any reason my usb drive doesn't load the msdos files after format

[rcjian]

Hi, ofcourse it will, both are reading from the external diode, you need to read your core temps which are measured internally...
Chris

Hi, I thought I read somewhere that newer CPUs like core 2 duo uses Digital Thermal Sensor to measure their temps internally which make it more accurate than the external diode that was used couple of years ago!

[Grnfinger]

hey fellas any reason my usb drive doesn't load the msdos files after format

Your formatting FAT32? and pointing to the DIR where your dos files are located?

[Grnfinger]

I need help... ;)

These were my current best BIOS 907 settings for 3.81GHz with my Q6600 GO. As soon as I deinstalled my 8600 GT, and replaced it with an 9800 GX2, my favorite stable 3.8GHz BIOS settings would not boot withought getting a CPU Check on my Maximus LCD Poster. It booted fine using the BIOS default settings.

I had to then load in my saved OC profile in, and back er down to 3.3GHz.

I need to go back to OCing my system to get my 3.8GHz back. I was thinking it was just a CPU voltage issue, but have given it 2 small bumps with only getting back to 3.4GHz.

After an unsuccessful 3.5GHz attempt, I ran into that Maximus CMOS error message, that only time heals. (The clear CMOS button did not help me out.)

I must have tried 10 times booting unsuccessfully to get around the CMOS ERROR on the LCD Poster. The display would go from 'INIT ROM' to 'CMOS ERR' to System lockes up...

I was real close to removing the battery, but that was under the GX2 and I didn't want to take it back out. I chilled for 20 minutes with the power off to the PC. After some Captain Black, I was ready to try again...

Came back in, hit the system with power, and it acted like it was fine again!! Booted right up.

Loaded the last successful OC profile back in that worked with some light OCCT testing, then backed that down a tad for saftey. 3.4GHz is where she currently sits.

My gut feeling is that I am so new at OCing CPU's, that it just needs a BIOS adjustment that I havent tried yet...

The CMOS error did give me pause though... Scarry stuff for me! ;)

I am trying to decide if I should go to the 1004 BIOS, or try and get 0907 to return my 3.8GHz...

I don't know what BIOS setting that my GX2 put more stress on that caused my system fo fail with a CPU check.

Any help would be appreachiated...

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 424
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-848MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.51250v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

My 4hour error free run using my 3.8GHz settings. Room temp was a brisk 55°F:
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8839/run10yv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I havent seen any settings for Q6600's on BIOS 1004 that were above 3.8GHz..

I would like to.... If I flash to 1004, I would like a starting point. (Newbie)
I am running with 1 2GB stick of ram rated at 1.8v, and 5-5-5-18 timings.

Maybe the 9800GX2 dosent like the PCI-E at 110?
I dont run a quad ne more so I'm sorry I cannot help you out.

[trt740]

Your formatting FAT32? and pointing to the DIR where your dos files are located?

read this thread see what you think i'm doing wrong? Please It would be a great help I thought I used these files usb files from the download?
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=55422&page=3

[kup]

Is there a benefit either way?

Well AFUDOS-ES is a one stop solution, but the method in the first post requires several steps to complete.

AFUDOS lets you flash back any time you want...

[TouGe]

Well AFUDOS-ES is a one stop solution, but the method in the first post requires several steps to complete.

AFUDOS lets you flash back any time you want...

:up:

I can't remember which way I flashed mine. No matter though, I am happy w/ where I am at now.

[dude_500]

There's really no need to run at 110 talonman, the bus is not even close to the bottleneck on any games that are out right now, only MAYBE in rare situations in advanced CG work with heavy textures.

[Talonman]

Thanks for the reply... I will change that to 100. :)

[dude_500]

Hey guys. I've fallen victim to the random BSOD on this board. Previously rock solid settings now randomly and fairly regularly crash. Here's what I'm running.

3.6 cpu
1.66 vcore (I know it's high. but that's what the POS chip needs)
400 mhz fsb
960 mhz memory
2.00 vdimm
1.54 nb vcore
1.17 sb vcore
1.58 fsb vtt

The system doesn't crash under stress since I can play UT3 for hours at a time but randomly it will crash when idle or whenever. Could this be a degradation problem or is this just part of the Maximus owner experience?

Probably burning your chip out lol... 1.66 dang something's wrong with that chip. I hit 3.6 on my old 6420 at 1.36v, I think it's defective or something.

[rcjian]

Prime small fft = stress on CPU primarily
Prime blend = more stress on the NB/Ram than CPU.

Try raising your NB Core, Vdimm(Ram volt) and a relaxed timings. Don't adjust all of the above in the same time. I'd suggest try NB core volt first since you're already good for ~2 hr blend.


With 4GB I agree more NB juice 1.53-1.55 to start


Hi guys! I tried raising my NB from 1.47 to 1.49 and left it priming overnight, but worker thread 2 got the hardware failure error at 9 hrs and 18 min while worker thread 1 continued without error. Raised it again to 1.51 and priming stopped at 1hr or so! Dropped the volts to 1.50 and it primed for 3 hrs or so then error again. Now I put it back to 1.49 and set the values below to all 'auto' and its priming again right now.
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Anymore opinions and suggestions are very much appreciated. Thanks guys!

[cuke2u]

Hi, I thought I read somewhere that newer CPUs like core 2 duo uses Digital Thermal Sensor to measure their temps internally which make it more accurate than the external diode that was used couple of years ago!

Hi, like I said, use the core temp readings as they are more accurate as to the temps your CPU is running...
Chris

[trt740]

Your formatting FAT32? and pointing to the DIR where your dos files are located?

yes and then it says it is installing the dos files from the download you posted but the drive is blank, I tried to copy them manually but no go. They are there but when i boot to the usb stick it says not a bootable device.

[Grnfinger]

yes and then it says it is installing the dos files from the download you posted but the drive is blank, I tried to copy them manually but no go. They are there but when i boot to the usb stick it says not a bootable device.

put your USB stick in and resart the PC, press F8 when booting to get the option screen and then boot from USB stick
or try setting it as a HDD manually in the bios and then have it to boot from that drive.

[rcjian]

Ok, correct me if I'm wrong coz I'm new in stuff like these, in my understandings, this Digital Thermal Sensors which newer CPUs uses nowadays to measure core temps more accurately than before is the one which digitally transmits the signal to programs like Everest, Probe etc to correctly display the readings. True or not?

[Talonman]

Do you guys think BIOS 1004 is better or worse than the 907 BIOS for Q6600 processors?

If I am going to start messing with my BIOS again, just wondering if I should try out the 1004, or should I just keep working with 907?

[dimsdale]

Hi guys! I tried raising my NB from 1.47 to 1.49 and left it priming overnight, but worker thread 2 got the hardware failure error at 9 hrs and 18 min while worker thread 1 continued without error. Raised it again to 1.51 and priming stopped at 1hr or so! Dropped the volts to 1.50 and it primed for 3 hrs or so then error again. Now I put it back to 1.49 and set the values below to all 'auto' and its priming again right now.


I doubt its your NB voltage at this point. What's your CPU volts? Might want to look in to upping that a little bit if its not too high already.

[rcjian]

I doubt its your NB voltage at this point. What's your CPU volts? Might want to look in to upping that a little bit if its not too high already.
Vcore at 1.44 already, tried at lower volts at first but kept on giving me error when priming at Small FFTs test, raised it a little at a time until I finally settled at 1.44 coz it primed for 5 hrs + without errors then switch to Blend test. Seems with NB at 1.49, it primes longer, but gave me error at priming 9hrs or so. Dram is at 2. v .

[CaseMD]

Hey guys,
i´m new to overclocking and today i got my Maximus formula

i have the E6600 and dont want to go to the maximum on overclocking though i have everything on watercooling. (CPU,2xMosfet,NB,SB)

what are save settings to start with?? or can i start with some sttings shown in thread 1??

Thanx for reply.

sorry if my english is not that good :(

[dude_500]

Hey guys,
i´m new to overclocking and today i got my Maximus formula

i have the E6600 and dont want to go to the maximum on overclocking though i have everything on watercooling. (CPU,2xMosfet,NB,SB)

what are save settings to start with?? or can i start with some sttings shown in thread 1??

Thanx for reply.

sorry if my english is not that good :(

If you're not going for a super high overclock, you could just set it 400x9 for a 3.6ghz and try 1.4v on the cpu with maybe 1.45v on the NB and a few clicks over default on the FSB Voltage. There are some good settings on page 1 if you want more exact settings or read through some of the posts in this thread and you'll find lots of settings that people use.

[CaseMD]

thanx for quick reply.

i have read the nearly the whole thread.
Often the settings are for quad core or for 45nm cpu´s does this matter?
or is there no big difference for 45 vs. 65nm cpu??

[trt740]

put your USB stick in and resart the PC, press F8 when booting to get the option screen and then boot from USB stick
or try setting it as a HDD manually in the bios and then have it to boot from that drive.

That worked, almost there it starts to flash but says cannot open rom file?

[ZenEffect]

That worked, almost there it starts to flash but says cannot open rom file?

did you include the name of the rom with the extention in the /i portion so its like

afudos /iROMNAME.rom /n /pbnc

?

note there is no space between the /i and the rom

[dimsdale]

Well I finally found some settings I'm happy with! Over 7 hours prime stable:



Write Recovery Time : 60
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disable
- Relax Level: 0
CPU Voltage : 1.39375


jwfitt,
I'm pretty much where you are at this point. I'm 5 hours (and running) prime95 blend stable at 3800 MHz, 9.5X, 400 FSB, 400 strap, 1066, and 1.400000V CPU.

You might be able to bring your Write Recovery Time down to 55 or lower. I seem to be stable at 55 - although I'm running Clock Twister = Light. Not sure what sort of difference, if any, that might make.

Right now, it looks like my problems were a result of insufficent CPU volts. In testing, I backed down to 3.6 GHz and was stable for many hours. I upped to 3.8 and started having problems immediately. So I finally said F-it and set the CPU volts for 1.400000 at 3.8GHz. Seems to be working.
Wouldn't be surprised if the memory settings all on AUTO were fine all along.

[trt740]

typed like this AFUDOS /iRF0219.rom /pbnc/n

[p2501]

I believe under Computer->Sensor it is "South Bridge PLL." I could be completely wrong though :)

Indeed you are wrong. CPU PLL is not monitored by Everest, I haven't found a program doing that. Would be cool though. :)

[Grnfinger]

typed like this AFUDOS /iRF0219.rom /pbnc/n

I think you need a space between the switches

[trt740]

I think you need a space between the switches

When I update the bios in the future can I do it with easy flash?

[Grnfinger]

When I update the bios in the future can I do it with easy flash?

I think that method requires AFUDOS everytime.
If you load the wr1 and wr2.bat files then you can use EZFlash.
Anyone correct me if I wrong.

Congrats on the successful flash:up:

[Talonman]

Well I think I am going to try out the 1004 with my Q6600. I downloaded the driver, and extracted it onto my Flash drive.

I booted and hit the delete key to enter the bios.

I used the flash utility and it found the BIOS on my flash drive fine (C drive). I let it read the file in and the flash utility verified that it liked the file and asked me if I was sure I wanted to flash. I told it no due to remembering somone mentioning that you had to have all your BIOS setting in their default settings, or the Flash could not work...

I don't understand why the flash utility would care what your current settings are, right before it overlays your old BIOS with a new one...

I dont remember what the default settings were, and I am not sure when exactly I am to use the clear BIOS button...

Can I flash withought trying to set everything back to default, and when do I need to hit the clear CMOS/BIOS button...

(I am at work right now and don't have the button in front of me so I cant remember if it is CMOS or BIOS.) :)

[ZenEffect]

I think that method requires AFUDOS everytime.
If you load the wr1 and wr2.bat files then you can use EZFlash.
Anyone correct me if I wrong.

Congrats on the successful flash:up:

you can update your bios via ezflash as long as its a rampage bios. afudos replaces the wr1 and wr2 bat files. according to the stilt, they were used to write information that the non es version of afudos could not. with the es version, it writes all the information including boot block information and new romid.

also a third possibility of flashing inbetween rampage and maximus was mentioned by kup, though i dont know if it has been tested though. it involves corrupting your bios and going through the bios recovery procedure.

[trt740]

I think that method requires AFUDOS everytime.
If you load the wr1 and wr2.bat files then you can use EZFlash.
Anyone correct me if I wrong.

Congrats on the successful flash:up:

man this bios increased my 24/7 clock 200 mghz and my reset button now works at higher clocks. it used to not work even at a stable 24/7 prime at 4.30ghz. Unless I used the shut down button.

[Grnfinger]

you can update your bios via ezflash as long as its a rampage bios. afudos replaces the wr1 and wr2 bat files. according to the stilt, they were used to write information that the non es version of afudos could not. with the es version, it writes all the information including boot block information and new romid.

also a third possibility of flashing inbetween rampage and maximus was mentioned by kup, though i dont know if it has been tested though. it involves corrupting your bios and going through the bios recovery procedure.

Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit sketchy on what exactly the wr1/wr2.bat files were for.

Now all we need is a new bios ......

[Grnfinger]

Well I think I am going to try out the 1004 with my Q6600. I downloaded the driver, and extracted it onto my Flash drive.

I booted and hit the delete key to enter the bios.

I used the flash utility and it found the BIOS on my flash drive fine (C drive). I let it read the file in and the flash utility verified that it liked the file and asked me if I was sure I wanted to flash. I told it no due to remembering somone mentioning that you had to have all your BIOS setting in their default settings, or the Flash could not work...

I don't understand why the flash utility would care what your current settings are, right before it overlays your old BIOS with a new one...

I dont remember what the default settings were, and I am not sure when exactly I am to use the clear BIOS button...

Can I flash withought trying to set everything back to default, and when do I need to hit the clear CMOS/BIOS button...

(I am at work right now and don't have the button in front of me so I cant remember if it is CMOS or BIOS.) :)

I have always flashed using my current oc profile and it has never been an issue. Once the flash is complete and the box restarts, power down and clear the cmos ( the button ) Then power up and clock on

[Talonman]

I have always flashed using my current oc profile and it has never been an issue. Once the flash is complete and the box restarts, power down and clear the cmos ( the button ) Then power up and clock on

Thanks buddy, that is exactly what I was looking for!! :)

[trt740]

make a bootable media device ( USB Stick... CD.. ect)
you will need these

http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/HPUSBFW.zip
http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/USB-Boot.zip

Download AFUDOS and toss it on the media along with the RF Bios

Latest Rampage bios http://rapidshare.de/files/38827325/RF0219.zip.html
AFUDOS http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=74089&d=1205468995

Once you have everything ready boot from your media and then type
AFUDOS /iRF0219.rom /pbnc /n
reboot and your done.



anyone else agree

[Stanley Pain]

anyone else agree

Yup, that's exactly what is needed in the OP ;)





make a bootable media device ( USB Stick... CD.. ect)
you will need these

http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/HPUSBFW.zip
http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/USB-Boot.zip

Download AFUDOS and toss it on the media along with the RF Bios

Latest Rampage bios http://rapidshare.de/files/38827325/RF0219.zip.html
AFUDOS http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&d=1205468995

Once you have everything ready boot from your media and then type
AFUDOS /iRF0219.rom /pbnc /n
reboot and your done.

[ZenEffect]

Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit sketchy on what exactly the wr1/wr2.bat files were for.

Now all we need is a new bios ......

yes and a new q6600
L737B021 :D

now i have 1 extra so i wont mind doing crazy things to the cpu

[Nuckin_Futs]

Thanks buddy, that is exactly what I was looking for!! :)
It only takes the 1 extra safe step to load system defaults in CMOS and shut down to clear CMOS, reboot and flash I have heard of issues for some not loading at least system defaults before a new BIOS flash. Expeciall for BETA types.

Speaking of wich, I do not see anything on the FTP site to indicate v1004 is a final. Yet, on Official Website Downloads, it is clearly listed as latest BETA release v1004.. I cannot log into the FTP .tw site since it appears to be passworded so I also cannot confirm it being listed as official final.

With that said, if I dont like it, is it a problem getting out of like it was for the ever so troublesome BETA v0907? Has anybody had good luck with AfuDOS back up and recovery from USB Memory Stick?

[kup]

Time for a new thread? One we can keep up-to-date as The Stilt isn't around much?

[kup]

All credit goes to The Stilt for finding the initial bios mod! And then secondly to the community for their continued support for this bios mod. This thread is intended to just be a tidy version of the work already done.

This bios mod can be performed on both the Asus P5E and the Asus Maximus Formula to turn them part way into an Asus Rampage Formula.

The Guide

1: Download the HP Bootable USB Utility from here:

HPUSBBOOT (http://rapidshare.com/files/107282064/HPUSBFW.zip).

2: Download the Boot Files from here:

Boot Files (http://rapidshare.com/files/107282214/USB-Boot.zip).

3: Download the bios of your choice:

0207 (http://rapidshare.com/files/107283067/RF0207.rar)
0214 (http://rapidshare.com/files/107283330/RF0214.rar)
0219 (http://rapidshare.com/files/107283529/RF0219.rar)
0308 (http://rapidshare.com/files/107481955/RF0308.rar)

4: Download AFUDOS Engineering Version here:

v2.29ES (http://rapidshare.com/files/107282453/AFUDOS229ES.zip)
v2.36ES (http://rapidshare.com/files/107282483/AFUDOS236ES.zip)

5: Run the HP Bootable USB Utility and tick the "Create a DOS Startup Disk" option. Now navigate to the Boot Files (extract them first) and select the Folder you extracted them to.

6: Click "Start" within the HP Bootable USB Utility and it will make your USB Stick bootable.

7: Extract the AFUDOS of your choice (I personally used v2.29ES) to the USB Stick along with the bios you wish to flash and a backup bios for your board (located on the Asus Support site) so you can flash back if the need arises.

8: Reboot your system and press F8 when the splash screen appears to select the boot menu. Once the boot menu has loaded navigate to the USB Stick and hit Enter.

9: Once the DOS Prompt is ready, type the following to flash to the Rampage Bios (Example uses Bios 0219):


AFUDOS /iRF0219.rom /pbnc /n

This will erase, flash and verify the bios for you. Once it has completed you can reboot and be greeted by your new Rampage splash screen.

P5E Users Only

10: Disable the Second Gigabit LAN and the "OPT SENSOR" #1, #2 and #3 to stop the errors from appearing.

The Rampage Formula uses the same drivers as both the P5E and the Maximus Formula so you shouldn't need to reinstall anything but some users have experienced a better result with a fresh install of Windows after the flash.

[Grnfinger]

Very nice Kup,
I was wondering who would attemp it

[Zucker2k]

*Reserved*

Another good one Kup :toast:

[ericab]

thx kup

[Talonman]

Good call.... It is still BETA!

Your giving me second thoughts now. :)

The troublesome BETA v0907 only had problems flashing to a lower number BIOS correct?

[safan80]

Good call.... It is still BETA!

Your giving me second thoughts now. :)


the 1004 bios worked fine with my 0903 settings in fact I lowered the NB setting and fsb vtt. don't let Nuckin_Futs get to you.

[iadstudio]

Probably burning your chip out lol... 1.66 dang something's wrong with that chip. I hit 3.6 on my old 6420 at 1.36v, I think it's defective or something.

You'd be surprised. This chip clocks pretty well at lower speeds and lower voltage, but anything over 3.2 and it need crazy volts to get stable. This was one of the very early chips (week 22) and many from the early batches need volts like this.

I'm amazed how well it has held up. Almost 2 years now at that voltage and I still do not suspect this chip for my BSODs. I have heard however that voltage that high is not all that good on this board. Sometime I wish this chip would just die so I can go get a 45nm.

[TAOTAO161]

I dont now from where to start i reach FSB 395*9 easy, but when i change to FSB 400 the all game are change, i raise and raise my CPU/PLL/NB/FSB voltage the system is not come to stability.
the CPU Configuration can change anything ?

here is my config

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-790MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
relax level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.5370v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.64v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : Auto (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

[cuke2u]

Time for a new thread? One we can keep up-to-date as The Stilt isn't around much?

Hi, why? Surely having two threads will just confuse everyone, besides this one isn't very long.. :mad:
Chris

[eSp!s0]

The troublesome BETA v0907 only had problems flashing to a lower number BIOS correct?

Not for me!? Tried 0907 and flashed back to 0903 without a problem (EZFlash). Now using 1004.

[kup]

Well more just to outline the procedure in one post with links to all the files and a guide all in one place.

[Talonman]

OK ... I'm diving in!! 1004 here I come...

Update:... Flash went well!! I am now a 1004 BIOS Maximus. :)

She booted right up, now the hard part OC'ing..

Within a few minutes I OC'ed to 2.97GHz, and boot into Vista.

I still would like to see some setting of another member on BIOS 1004 running a Q6600. The faster the better!

CPUz reports a Core Voltage 1.128v on my Q6600. Not sure if that is good or bad? :)

[ante_ante]

Having one problem at boot. On my little lcd-posten everytime i start the computer it stops at countmem, have to restart engine several times. Any clues ??

[dimsdale]

I dont now from where to start i reach FSB 395*9 easy, but when i change to FSB 400 the all game are change, i raise and raise my CPU/PLL/NB/FSB voltage the system is not come to stability.
the CPU Configuration can change anything ?


TAOTAO161,
It would help us to know your memory brand and rated speed as well as your CPU. Wolfdale, Penryn...Nehalem?......Prescott????

Anyway, upping your FSB might be upping your RAM speed. RAM seems to be generally more sensitive to overclock than CPU and FSB. What speed is your RAM rated for?

Depending on your memory divider setting (FSB Strap), sometimes I think you have to go to a LOWER memory speed setting when you increase the FSB.

[kup]

Cheers guys. I just thought that the original thread was getting cluttered with so many people asking how to do the mod, even when a safe and fast method had been available for a few weeks. This thread was just to highlight that method and the fact that it can be done on the P5E as well.

[kup]

Increase both the Northbridge and ram voltage a notch or two and see if it cures it?

[TouGe]

OK ... I'm diving in!! 1004 here I come...

Update:... Flash went well!! I am now a 1004 BIOS Maximus. :)

She booted right up, now the hard part OC'ing..

Within a few minutes I OC'ed to 2.97GHz, and boot into Vista.

I still would like to see some setting of another member on BIOS 1004 running a Q6600. The faster the better!

CPUz reports a Core Voltage 1.128v on my Q6600. Not sure if that is good or bad? :)

1004 was the best BIOS so far from ASUS IMO. I was able to lower both my NB and CPU a notch when OCing my x6800 @ 3.6GHz. I found the BIOS to be very stable.

[Talonman]

My curent problem is I can't get my FSB above 335 with my 400NB Strap.

With CPU voltage set to 1.50v and PLL at 1.58v I can boot into Vista with a 330 FSB.

To boot into Vista with a 335 FSB, I had to move the CPU voltage up to 1.6250v, and didn't change my PLL at 1.58v.

I tried a 340 FSB with no success. I took my CPU voltage another notch up, and moved the PLL voltage up 2 notches. Still no luck.

As new to OC'ing as I am, I am not sure how much voltage I should hit my Q6600 with to get 3.8 to 3.9 GHz.
In my pre GX2 days, 1.5120v CPU voltage gave me a stable 3.8GHz.

All other BIOS setting are the same as I listed on the previous page.

Any advice would be appreachiated.
I still think a GX2 is stressing something that the BIOS controlls...
As to what, I have no idea! ;)
As soon as I added the GX2, I lost my 3.8 and it has yet to return...

[dimsdale]

TouGe,

Q: Your sig says "CPU : QX 9650 @ 3.80GHz (9x400MHZ) 1.34V"
9 x 400 = 3600. Are you at 3600 or 3800 on that CPU?

A QX9650 @ 3.80GHz @ 1.34V would be impressive.
I don't think I could even boot Vista at that voltage on my QX9650.
In fact, it's taking me about 1.400 V CPU to get > 8 hours prime95 blend stable. (jwfitt on here is using 1.39xxx to get to 3.8, I believe)

I found that at about 1.38xxx V CPU I would always get errors in prime95 blend mode after a hour or two. I had to go to 1.4000 to get rock solid stability.

Anyway, if you get a chance, I'd love to see your main BIOS settings.

What sort of stability testing have your done at 1.34V?

[dimsdale]

Talonman,
How is your rig failing? When you say you can't boot into Vista, will it POST?

[Talonman]

Yes.. it starts to load, then my screen makes a core dump, then re-boots.

Other times I get the meter right bofore Vista loads, that is usually moving the hilighted - from left to right, but then it freezes and I need to hit the reset button.

[dimsdale]

Yes.. it starts to load, then my screen makes a core dump, then re-boots.

Other times I get the meter right bofore Vista loads, that is usually moving the hilighted - from left to right, but then it freezes and I need to hit the reset button.

I'm no expert, but I would try setting your FSB to 400 and then using a memory divider (FSB Strap) that UNDERCLOCKS your RAM. I think your have 800s that you are running at 850 or so, right?

See if you can boot up with RAM at less than or equal to the rated speed.

Oh yeah, and take that "Transaction Booster : Auto" and set it for
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax: 0

[Talonman]

So try 5-5-5-19 insted of 5-5-5-18?

I will disable transaction boster too, and set relax to 0.

Thanks

[dimsdale]

So try 5-5-5-19 insted of 5-5-5-18?



No. I meant the speed of the RAM, not the timings. When you set the FSB and FSB strap in BIOS, you can select only certain DRAM Frequencies.
In the BIOS, you will see "DRAM Frequency: DDR2-xxxxMHz"

Maybe you can set:

FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800MHz

If not, try

FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800MHz


Just make sure that is not higher than your rated speed of 800 MHz. Fiddle with the FSB Strap until you are able to select the right speed for DRAM Frequency.

For now, I would just set the primary and secondary memory timings as AUTO, as in
"DRAM Timing Control: AUTO"

[Talonman]

ok.. !! :)

I had typed 400 for FSB freq earlier, but ment to type 340...

340 is what I was having problems booting with with my 400 strap.

I just successfully booted with a 340 FSB for the first time, but had to move my CPU voltage to 1.68v!!

That is rather high, don't you think?

[dimsdale]

I just successfully booted with a 340 FSB for the first time, but had to move my CPU voltage to 1.68v!!

That is rather high, don't you think?

I don't know anything about that voltage, but I'm glad you're booting.

[TAOTAO161]

My cpu is Q6600, memory is ocz ddr800 paltinum rev 2, the divider iis 1:1 so the memory are not the problem.

[Talonman]

Well booting with my 340 FSB, Vista locked up on me, even at 1.68v in the CPU. Looks like to me the CPU voltage isn't the issue? I moved it back down to 1.6250v.

I did try the 333 NB Strap, but it still would not boot if I set the FSB to 340.

Here is my current 1004 Bios settings:

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 330
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-660MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.6250v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

If you see anything wrong, be sure to let me know! :)

[sofarfrome]

ok.. !! :)

I had typed 400 for FSB freq earlier, but ment to type 340...

340 is what I was having problems booting with with my 400 strap.

I just successfully booted with a 340 FSB for the first time, but had to move my CPU voltage to 1.68v!!

That is rather high, don't you think?


Yes, 1.68vcore is very high, especially for 340FSB. You have another issue than the CPU/FSB. I am running a Q6600 and I will flash to the 1004 bios this evening and I will post my settings after getting itup and running again. I am currently runnning mine at 3.8GHz (423FSB) with 1.43vcore. It is an L737B so it will run with lower vcore but you shouldn't need that much vcore to get to 340FSB.

edit: I just looked over your settings and I would give your memory some more vdimm, like 2.0-2.1. Also change these:

Ai Clock Twister : auto or disable
Transaction Booster : auto

disable everything under CPU config also

you can also try pulling out one stick of memory

[Talonman]

I antisapate your post! ;)

Thanks!

[ElEctric_EyE]

Talonman, there's hope m8! What batch of Q6600 do you have? I am able to do 440x9 stable on 400 strap. Will post settings tonight...

[Talonman]

Thanks ... I would love to get my speed back!!

My Q6600 GO is L726B397.

This is how it looked the first time I ever booted it with my Maximus, still at stock speed:
She locked in at 1.224 Core Voltage. Is that good, bad, or average?
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3021/basetestye9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Spyrus]

BIOS 0308
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20080414180650453&board_id=1&model=Rampage+Formula&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

Has anyone tried that? If so put it in your bios list plz...

[dimsdale]

Here's a general question:
What's better for overall performance:
A) faster memory, or
B) faster FSB ?

Currently, I'm running 400 FSB and 1066 RAM. Would I have overall better system performance if I upped the FSB to 425 or 450 and (due to memory divider) dropped RAM to around 980?

In other words, is 1066 memory already faster than the rest of the system so that the FSB at 400 is now the bottleneck?

Thanks!

[Sources]

Wow my G0 runs at 1.34v at 3.6ghz


Lucky bastard, look at my sig with what vcore I have to beat my chip.. :rofl:

[ante_ante]

Anyone tried this new bios ?

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20080414180650453&board_id=1&model=Rampage+Formula&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

[Sources]

Do you guys think BIOS 1004 is better or worse than the 907 BIOS for Q6600 processors?

If I am going to start messing with my BIOS again, just wondering if I should try out the 1004, or should I just keep working with 907?

Hey Talon go with Rampage bios, I am getting great results vs the formula bios, I was even able to lower my voltages a lot.

[M-XXXX]

Im going crazy!!!
Today I was in servis- shop, and we tried my MB, and it worked fine! When I got home, ONLY DRAM leds were ON, and it doesnt work AGAIN!! Only difference between me and them is procesor (my is Q6600, and they had E6300) Is there any way that this is the problem???

[Sources]

TRY this. I marked the changes in RED
NOTE the 2 RAM options.


Well booting with my 340 FSB, Vista locked up on me, even at 1.68v in the CPU. Looks like to me the CPU voltage isn't the issue? I moved it back down to 1.6250v.

I did try the 333 NB Strap, but it still would not boot if I set the FSB to 340.

Here is my current 1004 Bios settings:

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066MHz or DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Level: 7

CPU Voltage : 1.42v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12v (BIOS) or 1.90v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

If you see anything wrong, be sure to let me know! :)

[Sources]

Im going crazy!!!
Today I was in servis- shop, and we tried my MB, and it worked fine! When I got home, ONLY DRAM leds were ON, and it doesnt work AGAIN!! Only difference between me and them is procesor (my is Q6600, and they had E6300) Is there any way that this is the problem???

Does the Q6600 boot with stock settings in bios ?
Also 4Ghz is pretty hard to push a Q6600 for 24/7, you might have burnt it out.

[kup]

Added to first post. I'll flash it in a sec.

[FiXeR]

I've flashed to bios 219 today, and I must say it worked perfectly!

A lot more memory options, and no more irritating resetting if you change something in the bios.:up:

[kup]

I've flashed to bios 219 today, and I must say it worked perfectly!

A lot more memory options, and no more irritating resetting if you change something in the bios.:up:

Did you use this thread or the original? I'm hoping this thread will allow more people to flash their boards once they can see an easy method without trawling through pages and pages first.

Glad it worked out for you. Did I get the P5E bit right, disable the second LAN and the 3 OPT Sensors?

[M-XXXX]

Does the Q6600 boot with stock settings in bios ?
It's NOT posting what ever I do, but now all setting are stock, and it is the same.


Also 4Ghz is pretty hard to push a Q6600 for 24/7, you might have burnt it out.
Im almost 100% that procesor isn't the fault- its the samo with Pentium D 805 (its working fine in other PC)

[andyr(uk)]

as said on the asus forum it isnt a rom file so how do you use it

[FiXeR]

I used this topic, and this topic convinced to do it. I've disabled the sensors and I did'nt have any errors at all. So thats al fine.

I'm gonna try the new bios soon. :up:

CPU-Z validation: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=345439
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/screenshot/345439.png

[ericab]

as said on the asus forum it isnt a rom file so how do you use it

...just played around with it; and it seems to be the real thing.

"RAMPAGE.0308.04/03/2008-18:34:14.Bearlake.Formula.ASUS.rombuild414"


just add the .rom extension.

[Grnfinger]

My curent problem is I can't get my FSB above 335 with my 400NB Strap.

With CPU voltage set to 1.50v and PLL at 1.58v I can boot into Vista with a 330 FSB.

To boot into Vista with a 335 FSB, I had to move the CPU voltage up to 1.6250v, and didn't change my PLL at 1.58v.

I tried a 340 FSB with no success. I took my CPU voltage another notch up, and moved the PLL voltage up 2 notches. Still no luck.

As new to OC'ing as I am, I am not sure how much voltage I should hit my Q6600 with to get 3.8 to 3.9 GHz.
In my pre GX2 days, 1.5120v CPU voltage gave me a stable 3.8GHz.

All other BIOS setting are the same as I listed on the previous page.

Any advice would be appreachiated.
I still think a GX2 is stressing something that the BIOS controlls...
As to what, I have no idea! ;)
As soon as I added the GX2, I lost my 3.8 and it has yet to return...

try this and see if it helps you out

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425 / 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021 /1080
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong / Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.475 ( start here you may need to go higher)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


There are settings for both 3.4GHz and 3.6GHz

[Grnfinger]

...just played around with it; and it seems to be the real thing.

"RAMPAGE.0308.04/03/2008-18:34:14.Bearlake.Formula.ASUS.rombuild414"


just add the .rom extension.

Have you flashed it yet?

[ericab]

Have you flashed it yet?

oh...,,no sorry i should have been more clear.
i havent flashed it yet. im waiting for kenseck over at the asus forums to reply

[Sources]

It's posting what ever I do, but now all setting are stock, and it is the same.

If its posting what is the problem exactly ?

[kup]

I'll flash it in a sec.

[Talonman]

TRY this. I marked the changes in RED
NOTE the 2 RAM options.

Thanks...

I put in the 400 FSB
Tried my memory in 1066 and 800 (went back to 800)
Ai Clock twister was set back to strong.
Transaction Booster is now dsabled, and relax level 7
On CPU voltage, I had to select 1.4375v, 1.42v was not an option.
Dram voltage I am holding off on as I am scared to hurt my 1.8v RAM, and I know how the Maximus can overvolt. (How high can I overvolt 1.8v ram, withought hurting it?) :)
My SB is now on Auto
Set the NB to X63
Still have my DDR2 Controller REF Voltage on DDR@_REF
Disabled CPU TM Function
Disabled Execute Disable Bit

System posted, but made a core dump and would not load Vista.

Tried the FSB frequency at the dreaded 340.
System posted, but made a core dump and would not load Vista.

Put my FSB down to 330, and booted right up as normal...

I do appreachiate the effort, and would love to get this figured out. :up:

[TouGe]

Just checked out the ASUS FTP directory and it lists the 0219 ROM w/ todays date (04/14/08), was the original a beta and has this release been changed?

Edit:
There is no BIOS listed on the ASUS Support site.

[Talonman]

try this and see if it helps you out

Will do!! thanks

[Zucker2k]

Flashed it, looking good. More later.

[andyr(uk)]

worked here aswell

[ericab]

worked here aswell

ditto

[TouGe]

Just checked out the ASUS FTP directory and it lists the 0219 ROM w/ todays date (04/14/08), was the original a beta and has this release been changed?

Edit:
There is no BIOS listed on the ASUS Support site.

Nevermind, I checked the dates using the Flash program in the BIOS and they both match, 03/05/08.

[kup]

Initial opinion is that they're fixing things because now multipliers restore from OC Profiles correctly without defaulting to the stock multiplier.

Will test my Folding performance overnight to see how it runs. The board does feel faster now, and certainly completes the POST routine faster now; HDD Detection of all 6 drives was almost instant with 0308 but unbearably slow on 02xx bios.

[kup]

Flashed to 0308. Seems faster. POST is faster now, that's for sure. OC Profiles are fixed now so they restore the correct multiplier. :cool:

[ante_ante]

Will get my USB stick tomorrow and flash to :)

[TouGe]

Speaking of wich, I do not see anything on the FTP site to indicate v1004 is a final. Yet, on Official Website Downloads, it is clearly listed as latest BETA release v1004.. I cannot log into the FTP .tw site since it appears to be passworded so I also cannot confirm it being listed as official final.

ASUS FTP (ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula)



TouGe,

Q: Your sig says "CPU : QX 9650 @ 3.80GHz (9x400MHZ) 1.34V"
9 x 400 = 3600. Are you at 3600 or 3800 on that CPU?

A QX9650 @ 3.80GHz @ 1.34V would be impressive.
I don't think I could even boot Vista at that voltage on my QX9650.
In fact, it's taking me about 1.400 V CPU to get > 8 hours prime95 blend stable. (jwfitt on here is using 1.39xxx to get to 3.8, I believe)

I found that at about 1.38xxx V CPU I would always get errors in prime95 blend mode after a hour or two. I had to go to 1.4000 to get rock solid stability.

Anyway, if you get a chance, I'd love to see your main BIOS settings.

What sort of stability testing have your done at 1.34V?

Huh, I'll have to go back and change meh sig then. It should read 9.5x400MHz and the 1.34V is the reading I get from Everest while idle and @ load it reads 1.33V--using pencil mod. I think its set a notch under or above 1.375V in the BIOS. I can change this also if need be for clarification.

As for stability testing I ran my FSB up to 400MHz w/ a multiplier of 7.5 and ran OCCT for 4 hours on the RAM test. Then I pushed the multi up to 9.5 and ran OCCT again for 4 hours using the mixed test. I then ran through World in Conflict and Call of Duty 4 for a few hours and encoded two movies, no BSOD's.

I can post my settings in about 30 minutes or sometime tomorrow if you want.

[Grnfinger]

Boot time might be up ( not for me) performance is about the same.
Flashing was smooth tho no issues updating

[Xilikon]

Looks like the 0308 is a better choice after all. I prepped my USB stick with the needed stuff then I see that new version... I'm ready to do this tonight before I slap a Q9450 in it.

[theonlybabyface]

Boot time might be up ( not for me) performance is about the same.
Flashing was smooth tho no issues updating

Did you flash straight up with ez-flash or use AFUDOS on the Maximus?

[Sources]

Isn't that RAM supposed to be 1.9v stock ?



Thanks...

I put in the 400 FSB
Tried my memory in 1066 and 800 (went back to 800)
Ai Clock twister was set back to strong.
Transaction Booster is now dsabled, and relax level 7
On CPU voltage, I had to select 1.4375v, 1.42v was not an option.
Dram voltage I am holding off on as I am scared to hurt my 1.8v RAM, and I know how the Maximus can overvolt. (How high can I overvolt 1.8v ram, withought hurting it?) :)
My SB is now on Auto
Set the NB to X63
Still have my DDR2 Controller REF Voltage on DDR@_REF
Disabled CPU TM Function
Disabled Execute Disable Bit

System would not boot, or post.
changed the NB back to 0.67X

System posted, but made a core dump and would not load Vista.

Tried the FSB frequency at the dreaded 340.
System posted, but made a core dump and would not load Vista.

Put my FSB down to 330, and booted right up as normal...

I do appreachiate the effort, and would love to get this figured out. :up:

[Grnfinger]

I dont see/feel any real improvment for 308

[Sources]

TouGe, nice 3dmark score bud !

[Grnfinger]

Did you flash straight up with ez-flash or use AFUDOS on the Maximus?

Used EZ Flash, zero problems

[Talonman]

I am making progress now... :)

Up to a FSB of 370, with a 400 North Bridge strap.

It is a combo of Sources, and Grnfinger Bios settings....

380 will not work yet...

This is my RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145176

On the sticker on the actual ram, it is marked XMS2-6400 2048MB 800MHz 5-5-5-18 1.80v ver1.2

[ericab]

ezflash here too..didnt see many changes.

for some reason though they've moved AI-Net 2 to the advanced menu also..

[kup]

EZ Flash here too. I've got a USB Stick prepared with all the Rampage and Maximus bios ready, along with AFUDOS 2.29ES. :D

[theonlybabyface]

Used EZ Flash, zero problems


Thanks. Only issue I have with 219 is once in a while, my hard drives don't get detected (cold boot only) so I have to turn off PS, unplug, replug and fire it back up. Just a pain sometimes so if 308 fixes HD detection at all, I am a happy camper. :D

[eSp!s0]

Here's a general question:
What's better for overall performance:
A) faster memory, or
B) faster FSB ?

Currently, I'm running 400 FSB and 1066 RAM. Would I have overall better system performance if I upped the FSB to 425 or 450 and (due to memory divider) dropped RAM to around 980?

In other words, is 1066 memory already faster than the rest of the system so that the FSB at 400 is now the bottleneck?

Thanks!

Faster FSB is a good choice, take a look here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2882892&highlight=frequency#post2882892

But it depends on settings, 5FSB more but 200Mhz ram less won`t be faster, you know.

[Grnfinger]

BIOS 219

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/bench-2.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/44_test1-1.png


BIOS 308

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/benchtest.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4400_308.png

[Anuaja]

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4331/0308primehe7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Sources]

Thats stock, you are supposed to use them at 1.9v according to there website.


I am making progress now... :)

Up to a FSB of 370, with a 400 North Bridge strap.

It is a combo of Sources, and Grnfinger Bios settings....

380 will not work yet...

This is my RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145176

On the sticker on the actual ram, it is marked XMS2-6400 2048MB 800MHz 5-5-5-18 1.80v ver1.2

[TouGe]

Dimsdale:



Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.5
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 115
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level 7

Pull-In of CHA PH1 --> PH3 : Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 --> PH3 : Enabled

CPU Voltage : 1.38125 (1.34)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 (1.616)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57 (1.60)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12 (2.22)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24 (1.17)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10 (1.14)
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled


Right now I am testing 3.6GHz and finding I can run at that speed with much less voltage. I have been running OCCT stable for almost 2 hours 1.33750V as set in the BIOS.

[Talonman]

Thats stock, you are supposed to use them at 1.9v according to there website.

Wow!! I like that!! Mabey if I set it to 1.9v good things will happin...

Be back soon!

[TouGe]

TouGe, nice 3dmark score bud !

:up:

That's still a work in progress:D.

[TouGe]

0308???? Did I miss something?

[ericab]

0308???? Did I miss something?

umm...

yes ? :confused:

[Grnfinger]

0308???? Did I miss something?

http://rapidshare.com/files/107481955/RF0308.rar

[neo_rtr]

Sorry of this posted under wrong thread but i cant seem to locate the info allthough i remember seeing..
I am looking to find info about there the "motherboard temperature sensor" is located.
Any ideas

Thanks

[TouGe]

Shame on me:shrug:. I'm going to have to work on the whole paying attention thingy.

[TouGe]

Sorry of this posted under wrong thread but i cant seem to locate the info allthough i remember seeing..
I am looking to find info about there the "motherboard temperature sensor" is located.
Any ideas

Thanks

I've seen the picture before but can't remember off hand where it was posted. I believe the sensor is located somewhere around the top of the DIMM slots. I could be wrong though...like so many times before.

[Talonman]

I am getting faster!
My system is up to 3.46GHz

Everest is reporting:
CPU Core 1.46v
DIMM 2.00v
DIMM VTT 1.01v

Setting my DRAM voltage in the BIOS to 1.88, gives me 2.0v in Everest. Do you think this might be a bit risky? :)

I did try a 390 FSB Frequency, but won't boot into Vista yet.
Any more ideas anybody?

Here is my current 1004 Bios settings:

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 385
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-770MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Level: 7

CPU Voltage : 1.475v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.88v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : Auto (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

[Grnfinger]

I am getting faster!
My system is up to 3.46GHz

Everest is reporting:
CPU Core 1.46v
DIMM 2.00v
DIMM VTT 1.01v

Setting my DRAM voltage in the BIOS to 1.88, gives me 2.0v in Everest. Do you think this might be a bit risky? :)

I did try a 390 FSB Frequency, but won't boot into Vista yet.
Any more ideas anybody?

Here is my current 1004 Bios settings:

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 385
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-770MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Level: 7

CPU Voltage : 1.475v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.88v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : Auto (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

As long as the ram is not getting hot, but at 770MHz I dont see the point of overvolting. Relax Level 7 is gotta be real dog isnt it?

[Talonman]

Yep... I jst set Transaction Booster to Auto, Relax Level 0. Booted up fine.

Going to keep that now too. :)

[MrHydes]

well i have to thank all of you guys... just followed your tips and voilá

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1548/mainboardvv2.png (http://imageshack.us)

just joined the club... no lets it's how this Maxiampage handles some heat :D

PS: and of course special thanks to the author of this madness... :)

[Grnfinger]

With a 3Dmark score like that, all is forgiven :D

[Nuckin_Futs]

Thanks again for the other FTP link, but this is the same one I saw already. Actually these sites DO NOT clearify the latest BETA v/s FINAL. So where do you guys see a site specifying v1004 as ASUS final, and why or what is the difference from the "ASUS" BETA v1004? If the name of ROM is the same how do you tell them apart? I never saw this before, ASUS using the same version #s for each a BETA and a FINAL. Does this mean ASUS official web site will need to update their status? Also, since when is the official BIOS number higher then latest BETA? wich are you guys calling latest BETA then? Just curious!


I dont now from where to start i reach FSB 395*9 easy, but when i change to FSB 400 the all game are change, i raise and raise my CPU/PLL/NB/FSB voltage the system is not come to stability.
the CPU Configuration can change anything ?
For starting point stability, disable al performance options , especially booster ad Ai Clock Twister. Also if only testing @ FSB 400 for 1:1 w/ DDR800, try strap and DRAM frequency to AUTO for troubleshooting. I found on many BIOS versions, that it works fine, yet mobo is picky with manual of those 2 settings.


Not for me!? Tried 0907 and flashed back to 0903 without a problem (EZFlash). Now using 1004.
How were you abale to flash back from BETA v0907 to BETA v0903 in EZ-Flash. I had to use Windows Live Upodate since my BIOS was baddly corrupted. I heard that a BETA BIOS was supposed to let you EZ-Flash (CMOS version) but I never got it to work, even BETA to revert to last final.


OK ... I'm diving in!! 1004 here I come...

Update:... Flash went well!! I am now a 1004 BIOS Maximus. :)

She booted right up, now the hard part OC'ing..

Within a few minutes I OC'ed to 2.97GHz, and boot into Vista.

I still would like to see some setting of another member on BIOS 1004 running a Q6600. The faster the better!

CPUz reports a Core Voltage 1.128v on my Q6600. Not sure if that is good or bad? :)
Did you or were you able to boot and load and re POST as is at stock w/o any of the earlier mentioned POST hangs that were common after 907?


I am making progress now... :)

Up to a FSB of 370, with a 400 North Bridge strap.

It is a combo of Sources, and Grnfinger Bios settings....

380 will not work yet...

This is my RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145176

On the sticker on the actual ram, it is marked XMS2-6400 2048MB 800MHz 5-5-5-18 1.80v ver1.2
Did you input exact values as from before? Or is this new testing? Try the settings I just described above for stability testing. If you cant get stability on 1:1 forget about any divider. You oviously need more tweaking then.

[dimsdale]

TouGe,

Thanks so much for posting those settings. I appreciate that.

What you have there makes sense to me. I've also found that I can get stable at 3.6GHz with much less voltage than 3.8GHz. What pushes me to 3.8GHz is the fact that I went and blew all this money on the extreme chip with unlocked multiplier. If I don't run it at 9X or something like that, I might as well have the Q9450 with the 8X.

Your actual CPU voltage settings are pretty close to mine. I'm also getting significant vdroop between BIOS and Everest. I just set it at 1.4000 in BIOS because I was getting tired of prime95 errors at the 2 hour mark at about 1.38xxx. I'm sure I could ease it up a little from 1.40000 and still be stable.

I've seen someone here saying that they could get stable at lower voltages with the Rampage BIOS. That might be part of it.

[ZenEffect]

since im at work :( , and this new bios is news to me :confused:

any better gtl adjustments? my quad loves the gtl... it seems i need a .72 value or so though

[Nuckin_Futs]

TouGe,What pushes me to 3.8GHz is the fact that I went and blew all this money on the extreme chip with unlocked multiplier. If I don't run it at 9X or something like that, I might as well have the Q9450 with the 8X.

I've seen someone here saying that they could get stable at lower voltages with the Rampage BIOS. That might be part of it.
My same reason exactly. I like the 8x just fine for the FSB options. I refuse to blow that kind of money on an extreme CPU when I can usually get the same feel on half the cost.

As for that RAMPAGE hack, is it confirmed yet if it does indeed void warenty? I mean does it leave traces ASUS can tel if able to get out of it to a final BIOS?

[andyr(uk)]

0308 is more stable for me with prime anyway , at higher overclock , 425 x 9 is good so will try a bit higher

[Talonman]

Did you or were you able to boot and load and re POST as is at stock w/o any of the earlier mentioned POST hangs that were common after 907?


Did you input exact values as from before? Or is this new testing? Try the settings I just described above for stability testing. If you cant get stability on 1:1 forget about any divider. You oviously need more tweaking then.

Yes, I posted the first time I loaded the 1004 bios, using all default settings.

I had the 5-5-5-18 values entered in under 907, and that is what I am still using under 1004.

New issue...
If I change my FSB Frequency from 380 to 390, I hang on the LCD poster with 'USBFINAL', and cant go any further...

I bumped mu CPU voltage up 2 notches from 1.475v, but the error remains constant. I returned my voltage to 1.475 due to me not thinking it was a CPU volt issue.

When I first installed my GX2, I did get a USB error in there too..
I don't know how to adjust my USB so it won't hang with a 390FSB.

[dimsdale]

My same reason exactly. I like the 8x just fine for the FSB options. I refuse to blow that kind of money on an extreme CPU when I can usually get the same feel on half the cost.


I had been running a Prescott 3.6GHz for about 4 years I just got tired of waiting for the Q9450 to finally come out after repeated delays and nobody knowing when it would be available. (Newegg still can't keep it in stock) I would have liked to wait for Nehalem and the new bus, but I just couldn't take the Prescott anymore :D

[Nuckin_Futs]

Yes, I posted the first time I loaded the 1004 bios, using all default settings.

I had the 5-5-5-18 values entered in under 907, and that is what I am still using under 1004.

New issue...
if I change my FSB Frequency from 380 to 390, and hang on the LCD poster with 'USBFINAL', and cant go any further...

I bumped mu CPU voltage up 2 notches from 1.475v, but the error remains constant. I returned my voltage to 1.475 due to me not thinking it was a CPU volt issue.

When I first installed my GX2, I did get a USB error in there too..
I don't know how to adjust my USB so it won't hang with a 390FSB.
Try the 2 AUTO settings as I had very pick issues with same Q6600 and E6600, E6750. Auto will fill in those black holes better then the hit or miss and constant restart required to fine a good stable voot point with forced strap and DRAM frequency. You can simply go at it later after you feel you are stable.

2nd, as for the GX2, you may need to use less PCIE overclock, like no more then 105MHz for starters. or up your SB, SB2 to around 1.10~1.114v and 1.5 to 1.55~1.6v (actual) .

[Talonman]

Thanks Nuckin_Futs.

Going to try upping the SB voltages a tad.

What 2 Auto settings are we talking about? :)

Sorry, not too good at this as you can tell.

UPDATE: I moved the SB Voltage from 1.050 to 1.075, and moved the SB 1.5 voltage from 1.50 to 1.55.

Result: System hung on the LCD poster with 'USBFINAL' messgage. Note: This is the second 'USBFINAL' message that the LCD Poster gets hung on. It displayes right at the beginning, goes through CPU init, RAM init, and such, before returning to the 2nd 'USBFINAL' message, at wich time everything stops.

I then returned my SB 1.5 voltage to 1.50, but took the SB Voltage from 1.075 to 1.100.

Result: The system started to load Vista, but then made a core dump. I had to hit the reset multiple times before the system would let me re-enter the BIOS to change things back. The screen was getting hung at the "Initializing USB Controllers". After the 4th reset, the delete key let me enter the BIOS and set things back to normal.

This is a tuff nutt to crack! :)

[kup]

CPU GTL is now .62x, .63x. .65x and .67x.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Thanks Nuckin_Futs.

Going to try upping the SB voltages a tad.

What 2 Auto settings are we talking about? :)

Sorry, not too good at this as you can tell.
"AUTO" for CPU strap to NB and DRAM Frequency. I got mine stable later on a fixed selection of 333 @ 1153, bUt honestly, I saw no difference if leaving strap to AUTO w/ DRAM @ 1153. I think the forced strap is only benifitial if a given FSB and DRAM frequency can be had on 2 different NB straps. I only get that choice on my DDR1000 for 500FSB, where again mobo is picky to fix to 333 or 400, but on v0602, 400 was fine if manual.

Recently, I do notice that my NB & SB temps drop out of dection (from PC probe and of corse any app) and LED Poster is "blinking" /w time displayed. It seams to keep performing fine. This is on a daily basis and of corse resuming from S4/STHDD. I cannot say for sure it has anything to do w/ this BIOS or the 333 strap cause this is my 2nd new mobo. It never happened on the 1st one with same BETA v0903 and profile.

EDIT: LCD_Poster i"blinking"! I had to restart for an app service, and it hung just after Windows logged off and was or would have restarted. powering off by ATX case button left LCD Poster blinking and a reset only hun again. I had to PWR off PSU and discharge caps for a few secs to reboot . All was fine again and sensors detected in CMOS and in XP secs later. Just wondering if anybody has experienced this weirdness lately.

I am anctious to try the eledged FTP fianl v1004 to see if indeed it reports as a final in flash utility. I suppose the dates will tell as well. But not till I make a bootable Pro Stick Duo to back up and recover from if I dont like it.

[GlowingBulb]

Just flashed from 219, not had any chance to see if there are any improvements here to help hit a stable FSB of over 435MHz, regardless of the multiplier.

Just completed a 1hr OCCT run with the slider over to very large without issues, as soon as I increased the FSB to 440MHz it did the usual of locking up approx 2mins into an OCCT run. My 219 BOIS settings are below, any advice would be appreciated.

Would like to see 450 x 8 for 3.6GHz but just cant get my FSB up there.

I run24/7 at 400MHz x 9 @1066MHz (PL6)

Anybody get the false reading in PC Probe where SB1 Volts jump to 1.58+ & the FSBT reads 0V occasionally?

(Note: the settings below are stable with 8x multiplier, I dropped 1 down to rule out my CPU. I've tried upping the NB to 1.65 & still no joy. Temps arent an issue, I've never seen any core hit 50deg nor my NB go over 36deg)

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
FSB Frequency : 435
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 112
DRAM Frequency: 870
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level 13

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.475 (Hardware Monitor shows 1.456 idle)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6 (Hardware Monitor shows 1.728)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55 (Hardware Monitor shows 1.584)
DRAM Voltage : 2.00 (Hardware Monitor shows 2.09)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48 (Hardware Monitor shows 1.552)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10 (Hardware Monitor shows 1.136)
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5 (Hardware Monitor shows 1.552)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref (Hardware Monitor shows 1.1040)
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref (Hardware Monitor shows 1.1040)
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref (Hardware Monitor shows 1.1040)

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

*Apologies for the screenie, not yet learned how to create a thumbnail :shrug: *
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[MrHydes]

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[Grnfinger]

Just flashed from 219, not had any chance to see if there are any improvements here to help hit a stable FSB of over 435MHz, regardless of the multiplier.

Just completed a 1hr OCCT run with the slider over to very large without issues, as soon as I increased the FSB to 440MHz it did the usual of locking up approx 2mins into an OCCT run. My 219 BOIS settings are below, any advice would be appreciated.

Would like to see 450 x 8 for 3.6GHz but just cant get my FSB up there.

I run24/7 at 400MHz x 9 @1066MHz (PL6)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : Set what you need here
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Xilikon]

Thanks Grnfinger, I'll try that right now with my new Q9450 that I'm aiming for 8x450. I'll report back the results then tweak from there for a final goal of 8x475 and 3.8 GHz 24/7

[Talonman]

I tried "AUTO" for CPU strap to NB, and DRAM Frequency.

Result: LCD Poster would get hung at USBFINAL.

I set the strap back to 400, and on the DRAM Frequency, I had 2 options:
DDR2-760MHz, and DDR2-1013MHz.
I selected DDR2-1013 and the LCD Poster would get hung at COUNTMEM.
I set it back to DDR2-760, and took one more run at FSB frequency of 390.

She locked up at "Initializing USB Controllers" displaying on the screen.

After 5 resets, and not being able to get the Delete key working to enter the BIOS, I had to power down and hit the Clear CMOS button.

It loaded the default setting back in and system booted fine...
Loaded my saved profile back in with the 380 FSB, and system booted right up.

So odd! :shrug:

380 FSB=Boot, 390 FSB= failed "Initializing USB Controllers"

[Xilikon]

Grnfinger, if your list of settings is done in the same order as the list in the BIOS, then it's a bit changed in 0308. Here is the screenies of the whole page and you will notice the extra settings. Even the Ai Clock Twister have 5 settings (Lighter, Light, Moderate, Strong, Stronger). I dunno if it is the same as before so here it is :

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1437.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1436.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1438.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1439.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1440.jpg

Also, here is my Q9450 in all his glory :

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1431.jpg

Along with my nice Redline :

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1433.jpg

[ZenEffect]

CPU GTL is now .62x, .63x. .65x and .67x.

thanks kup, i see that asus still has their head up their ass when it comes to gtl control... :rolleyes:

the p5e3 premium has much better control compared to this board. i wonder if a cross flash is capable? (yes i know ddr3 vs ddr2 but i distinctly remember someone saying that they did it already to a maximus extreme)

[ElEctric_EyE]

Grnfinger, if your list of settings is done in the same order as the list in the BIOS, then it's a bit changed in 0308. Here is the screenies of the whole page and you will notice the extra settings. Even the Ai Clock Twister have 5 settings (Lighter, Light, Moderate, Strong, Stronger). I dunno if it is the same as before so here it is :

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1437.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1436.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1438.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1439.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1440.jpg

Also, here is my Q9450 in all his glory :

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1431.jpg

Along with my nice Redline :

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Xilikon/DSCF1433.jpg

Man, That IHS need some sandpaper, immediately!

[ElEctric_EyE]

CPU GTL is now .62x, .63x. .65x and .67x.

How did you get 4 sep GTL's?

[ZenEffect]

How did you get 4 sep GTL's?
those are the selectable values.

[ElEctric_EyE]

Talonman, there's hope m8! What batch of Q6600 do you have? I am able to do 440x9 stable on 400 strap. Will post settings tonight...

Here's some tests. 10min OCCT stable. It ain't much but it's good enough to play Fuel of War forever and video encode for more than 1/2hr at 26C ambient. I've got a problem when ambient goes above 28C. The temp difference directly affects core temps, where I approach the 80C danger zone. A chilled water system is in the back of my mind...

[ElEctric_EyE]

More stats...

[Expat GriZ]

Just a quick one guys as its 4 in the morning and the missus is going to kill me. Flashed in Bios 308 no probs, could run at 4ghz with slightly lower CPU Volts but no real difference in Everest. Seems to post and boot faster as Kup mentioned. However, moved Multi to 10.5 and booted 1st time. 4.2Ghz::D Ran 3D Mark 24.246!!::rofl: , Orthos for 15 min. temps are ok. If I have time tomorrow will post details.

[Sources]

HEY Talon

Try using your setting for 400 FSB that you had with the old card but try setting the SB at 1.55v and slowly go up from there to see if it will boot. The SB has alot to do with stability for the PCIE slot and USBs when overclocking. Also try to set your PCIE freq to 105mhz.

Also trying bumping your NB volts a bit at a time which also mainly affect the PCIE overclock performance.

Let me know...

[ElEctric_EyE]

those are the selectable values.

Ok, I misunderstood. I thought he set 4 individual GTL's which is what I am waiting for... Thought I might have missed that in the RF BIOS.... I guess two GTL's would be reasonable nowadays for quadcores

[Nuckin_Futs]

Here's another stable option to try, more realistic for the CPU you have. try items in "BOLD", All values are actual, as reported.


I dont now from where to start i reach FSB 395*9 easy, but when i change to FSB 400 the all game are change, i raise and raise my CPU/PLL/NB/FSB voltage the system is not come to stability.
the CPU Configuration can change anything ?

here is my config

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO will use best stable strap if 2 are availablePCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: AUTO will use 1:1 for stability
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled play w/ AUTO to see any changes, 400FSB is usually low enough to not really see a big difference here
Ai Clock Twister : LIGHT
Transaction Booster : DISABLED
relax level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.5370v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.632v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55v cause of x2 GPU, & quad, may need up to 1.58v
DRAM Voltage : 2.1v just for stability, less as can be later
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.488v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.104v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.56~1.60v

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled - I'd enable this if it is stable later
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled - try w/ this disabled for now
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled try it like this for now, enable as stable laterMax CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Let me know if this helps. This is for basic stable 1:1 @ 400x9. A very and practically stock today on this mobo.

EDIT: if not using any legacy USB, try disabling this in BIOS and see if it gets past 2nd pass. My iPod locked up once and hung there too. Just a thought. See "Sources" note above to confirm what I just mentioned earlier on about SB and PCIE.

[ZenEffect]

Ok, I misunderstood. I thought he set 4 individual GTL's which is what I am waiting for... Thought I might have missed that in the RF BIOS.... I guess two GTL's would be reasonable nowadays for quadcores

thats what im hoping for as well.

[BigKriss]

Flashed to 308 from original 207(??) I think??
While overclocked to 3.6 G-Had done this in the Formula days with no problems..Used ez flash,all ok.
Seems faster in what it does and also way more mem options.Waaay more..

[GlowingBulb]

Would be nice to see the GTL options go a little higher than 0.67x. On the occasional times I can get my board to post over 440MHz cores 0&1 drop off the FSB.

Thanks for the suggestions GrnFinger, I'll give them a shot later :up:

[eSp!s0]

How were you abale to flash back from BETA v0907 to BETA v0903 in EZ-Flash. I had to use Windows Live Upodate since my BIOS was baddly corrupted. I heard that a BETA BIOS was supposed to let you EZ-Flash (CMOS version) but I never got it to work, even BETA to revert to last final.

I just did it. I never had any problems with flashing (back or newer bios).
Used my USB-Stick and EZ-Flash and it flashed back like it flashes a newer bios. Reboot and volià....

[ChaosMinionX]

Anyone else with exception of QX9650 users, have problems with both the Rampage and Maximus formula in clocking a Q9450/X3350? I cannot get anywhere with mine, wondering if maybe we can narrow it down to a board issues with its current BIOS. Or if its flat out the chips fault, I know my maximus can do 490fsb, it did 490x8 with my Q6600G0 with like 1.65v.....

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

[ChaosMinionX]

Much faster POST with 0308, however I am trying everything to get this damn X3350 to clock worth a damn.

I posted on other ones with the same problem, maybe someone could include their findings with 45nm and the Maximus/Rampage Formula?

I have been trying for hours, it simply wont go over 450mhz FSB.

[safan80]

man stop with the part 2 threads you separating information by doing that.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

man stop with the part 2 threads you separating information by doing that.

Ow but a short 'consolidation' post makes it look like he's providing the community with ow so much usefull info :rofl:

[mhdabiad]

Hi to everyone,
Was waiting for Rampage to get here,
I've had many stability problems with my max SE rev. 1.02.
Couple of questions if anyone care to answer before I upgrade to RF bios:
1-Now that RF bios possibility, If was able to get the real Rampage MB do you think I need to upgrade to Rampage MB to get the full features.
2-Is Max rev. 1.02 also compatible with the upgrade.

Cheers

[Grnfinger]

Anyone else with exception of QX9650 users, have problems with both the Rampage and Maximus formula in clocking a Q9450/X3350? I cannot get anywhere with mine, wondering if maybe we can narrow it down to a board issues with its current BIOS. Or if its flat out the chips fault, I know my maximus can do 490fsb, it did 490x8 with my Q6600G0 with like 1.65v.....

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

From what I hear alot of Q9450's dont clock that well, seems certain batchs dont like high FSB

[kup]

Marvin, you have no need to be here, you don't even own the required hardware, so kindly keep your opinions to yourself. :D

Saf', if you feel this thread will split info then continue to post exclusively in the first thread. You didn't seem to mind the Maximus Part 2 thread. This thread was just to tidy up the findings and present them in a clearer way without trawling through pages of snippets. It will also be kept up-to-date with the bios files rather than have them scattered all over.

[FiXeR]

I'm gonna flash the bios back to a P5E. I don't like the Rampage bios at all, it's hella lot more unstable than the P5E bios. With the Rampage bios I had a lot BSODs on the same settings as the P5E.

The only positive thing: A lot less Vdroop.

[kup]

What settings are causing instabilities? With the Rampage bios you might need more voltage? Also, the Performance Level setting works differently now so make sure Transaction Booster is set to Disabled or Enabled (Level 7 or 8) and see how it goes?

[Xilikon]

So far, from my brief attempt with a Q9450 L811A506, I was only able to boot at 8x440 since 8x450 result in either a freeze just at OS loading or DET DRAM error... I will continue the testing tonight to see if it is either a FSB wall or a max overclock. Compared to my Q6600, it's a bit disappointing but my folding time is unchanged beteen the two even if the Q6600 clocked a bit higher.

[saaya]

sweet!

[Xilikon]

Much faster POST with 0308, however I am trying everything to get this damn X3350 to clock worth a damn.

I posted on other ones with the same problem, maybe someone could include their findings with 45nm and the Maximus/Rampage Formula?

I have been trying for hours, it simply wont go over 450mhz FSB.

Ditto here with a Q9450. I'm feeling there might be a setting causing issues but with the boatload of options, I dunno where to start :eek:

[Grnfinger]

Ditto here with a Q9450. I'm feeling there might be a setting causing issues but with the boatload of options, I dunno where to start :eek:

Search the forum, you will see alot of Q9450 user are having the same problem, the 9450 dont like high FSB

[Xilikon]

Search the forum, you will see alot of Q9450 user are having the same problem, the 9450 dont like high FSB

Yes, I noticed that... I also have a P5K-E/Wifi-AP and I might try to see if it is a CPU or board limitation since it seems owners of P5E-VM can clock them much higher.

[By0T0xN]

Marvin, you have no need to be here, you don't even own the required hardware, so kindly keep your opinions to yourself. :D

Saf', if you feel this thread will split info then continue to post exclusively in the first thread. You didn't seem to mind the Maximus Part 2 thread. This thread was just to tidy up the findings and present them in a clearer way without trawling through pages of snippets. It will also be kept up-to-date with the bios files rather than have them scattered all over.


I have been following the first thread from the start, waffling between doing the conversion and not. I have been doing my taxes for the last few weeks and my 907 MF bios have been stable and have remained that way with my OC for months. But now that you have started this "part 2" thread with the step by step instructions and have finished my taxes, I believe I'm going to take the plunge. I for one am happy you started this thread. Keep up the good work. :up:

[chawks2]

Anyone else with exception of QX9650 users, have problems with both the Rampage and Maximus formula in clocking a Q9450/X3350?


So far, from my brief attempt with a Q9450 L811A506, I was only able to boot at 8x440 since 8x450

My Q9450 is behaving a little differently. I am able to get 450x8, but it's unstable with vcore @ 1.325, but it does boot and get into the OS, so there is promise. However, I have noticed when the "Common Performance Level" is set to 7 the mobo DOES NOT respond and comes back with "overclocking failed".

Following GrnFingrs settings, the only way I can use the "Common Performance Level" @ 7 is if I set my strap to 266 and FSB to 266. I'm going to look around in other threads today about CPL, can someone tell me WHY I am unable to do a mild oc or even run stock settings with my Q9450 & CPL 7? What does the CPL buy me? Thanks in advance.

[Stanley Pain]

My Q9450 is behaving a little differently. I am able to get 450x8, but it's unstable with vcore @ 1.325, but it does boot and get into the OS, so there is promise. However, I have noticed when the "Common Performance Level" is set to 7 the mobo DOES NOT respond and comes back with "overclocking failed".

Following GrnFingrs settings, the only way I can use the "Common Performance Level" @ 7 is if I set my strap to 266 and FSB to 266. I'm going to look around in other threads today about CPL, can someone tell me WHY I am unable to do a mild oc or even run stock settings with my Q9450 & CPL 7? What does the CPL buy me? Thanks in advance.

Lower CPL increases memory bandwidth, and decreases memory latency.

[tylerw13]

So far, from my brief attempt with a Q9450 L811A506, I was only able to boot at 8x440 since 8x450 result in either a freeze just at OS loading or DET DRAM error... I will continue the testing tonight to see if it is either a FSB wall or a max overclock. Compared to my Q6600, it's a bit disappointing but my folding time is unchanged beteen the two even if the Q6600 clocked a bit higher.

amen i had the same issue i tried everything but it wouldnt go past 440 same thing as you happened to me :down:

[TouGe]

TouGe,

Thanks so much for posting those settings. I appreciate that.

What you have there makes sense to me. I've also found that I can get stable at 3.6GHz with much less voltage than 3.8GHz. What pushes me to 3.8GHz is the fact that I went and blew all this money on the extreme chip with unlocked multiplier. If I don't run it at 9X or something like that, I might as well have the Q9450 with the 8X.

Your actual CPU voltage settings are pretty close to mine. I'm also getting significant vdroop between BIOS and Everest. I just set it at 1.4000 in BIOS because I was getting tired of prime95 errors at the 2 hour mark at about 1.38xxx. I'm sure I could ease it up a little from 1.40000 and still be stable.

I've seen someone here saying that they could get stable at lower voltages with the Rampage BIOS. That might be part of it.

There are a few people that populate this forum that were hitting 4.0GHz+ with <1.38V on their QX9650's. So I was a little disappointed when it took 1.38V just to get 3.80GHz:(. Its the luck of the draw I guess.

It was nice to hit and get stable @ 3.8GHz but it runs a little warm for me @ load. I'd feel better knowing what the official TjMax was for the 45nm Quads and the max safe Vcore these things can sustain and still have some longevity in them. I've heard some speculate that the TjMax was 95 degrees but from what I understand Intel hasn't released any numbers yet.

Later this summer I plan on throwing some money @ an X48 board, some DDR3, and a decent water cooling kit, then I'll push for more. But right now I'm running @ 3.6GHz w/ only 1.31V (1.28V under load)--still testing--which took me 1.45V on my old x6800 DC chip, so I am happy for now.

Definitely, though, you should give the Rampage BIOS a shot. It is up to version 0308 right now and its alot of fun to play with.

[Cosmic81]

what for ClockGen in the SetFSB have the Maximus X38?

[M-XXXX]

Does the Q6600 boot with stock settings in bios ?
Also 4Ghz is pretty hard to push a Q6600 for 24/7, you might have burnt it out.


If its posting what is the problem exactly ?
Typo- ITS NOT posting.

[chawks2]

Lower CPL increases memory bandwidth, and decreases memory latency.

So...setting it to Auto gives you a balance? Or does it dynamically change?

[dimsdale]

I seem to have my rig (in sig) stable at 3774 GHz and 444 FSB. So I thought I'd post my BIOS settings (1004) in case it might give anyone else some ideas or if anyone cares to comment on any improvements I might make.

I went with the FSB of 444 because it allowed me to select memory speed of 1066. I can't even get to 1080 on these G.Skills without relaxing the timings. So I figured to keep it at 1066 at auto timings.

Looks like at this point these Core 2 procs are more FSB limited than anything else. Having a proc at >4 GHz probably means the proc is waiting a lot to get data in and out of memory. Getting the FSB from 400 to 444 did more for my benchies than most other similar tweaks I've made.

I tried to hit 500x7.5 @ 1:1 DDR1000 a la Nuckin_Futs, but I couldn't even POST with that. That gives me hope it's a config problem, not a massive instability at 500. Nuckin_Futs, if you're out there, would certainly be interested to see what you set to hit that 500 @ 1.1. Are you still running the settings posted at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2568733&postcount=2704?



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 444
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax : 0

CPU Voltage : 1.400000 (measured 1.38xxxx)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto (measured 1.61)
DRAM Voltage : 2.00 (measured 2.04xx)
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto (measured 1.42?)
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

[Talonman]

Day no 2 on OC'ing BIOS 1004 with my Q6600:

I have played with the CPU, PLL, NB, SB, DRAM, and FSB Termination voltage until I am blue in the face!!

My "Initializing USB Controllers" problem would not go away...

I was looking at my USB section in the BIOS, and it listed mouse, keyboard, and USB Hub as devices...

I took my Flash drive, and tried plugging it into the front post of my TJ09. It was dead!! I then took my Case wires for the USB ports, and unplugged them from the USB port on the mobo closest to the SATA ports, and plugged the wire into the other USB port that is closer to the reset button. It worked and my PC's case now has working USB ports.

Normally I have been using my FPD's USB ports. I then unplugged my FPD's USB wire from the back of the PC. I fugured it might be draining some voltage that the Maximus needs?

I do have my USB HP wireless mouse plugged into a USB port, and that's all. (Keyboard is a Dell PS2 type)

I tried my 390 FSB again with my 400 NB Strap. I did successfully boot into windows for the first time with a 390 FSB!

I thought the hard work was over...

The system was not stable, and prime went south in the first minute on multiple cores.

I upped some voltages, and my USB problem seems to be gone, but now I get this with a 390 FSB.

Windows Boot Manager

Windows failed to start. A recent Hardware or Software change might be the cause. To fix the problem:

1) Incert your Windows installation disk and restart your computer.

2) Chose your language settings, and then click "next".

3) Click "Repair your computer".

If you do not have this disc, contact your system administrator or computer manufacturer for assistance.

File:\windows\system32\winload.exe

Status 0xc0000221

info: The file is possibly corrupt. It's header checksum does not match the computed checksum.
My feeling is this is a BS message, due to me just powering the computer off when I receive it, set my FSB back to 380, reboot into windows error free.

Any thoughts? :)

One other thing is I have that annoying red X on my internet connection when I first boot into windows for about 1 minute. Last time this happend t me it was a sound card issue. Using the device manager, I de-installed my "High Definition Audio Device", and re-boot. Windows adds it right back in telling me it installed correctly. If I right click on the "High Definition Audio Device", and select properties/ Driver, and Update driver, and search the net, it responds with "Windows has determined the driver software for your device is up to date".

The X remains for about 1 minute, after the desktop appears on every re-boot. (I think the system is trying to resolve a network driver conflict, then gives up.) ??

I don't know if a funky soundcard driver could be hampering my OC'ing efforts?

I baught Unreal Tournament III, and it lockes up at the Splash screen. I searched the net, most posts have "No knowen cure" for this issue. I found one obsure post about some dude thought it might be sound card related...

I loaded windows, de-installed my "High Definition Audio Device", started Unreal Tournament III and my God... It worked for the first time!! (No sound though). I think this SupremeFX II sound card has driver conflict issues...
It ALWAYS lockes up at the Splash screen if my Sound card is installed, no exceptions.

My little spirit is getting beat down on this...
I think I am looking like 3.4GHz is my limit no matter what I do. High voltages aren't resolving the issue for me...

As it sits now, a 390 FSB will cause windows to load all the way to the desktop, then core dump.

or I get my Windows Boot Manager message...

or it just lockes up.

Could a crappy GX2 driver be holding me back. Remember, I lost my 3.8GHz on install day of the GX2.

It's kicking my butt! :p:

No problem initializing the USB Controller though...