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Yay for Cheese
03-25-2008, 12:33 AM
I successfully changed my MF into a RF but I'm starting to have some DET DRAM problems. My old stable settings on the MF won't work and I get the DET DRAM hang when I set the FSB higher than 380 or so. It's either me screwing up mobo conversion process or there's some new thing in the BIOS I don't get yet.
Signal64
03-25-2008, 12:44 AM
God I hate to sound like such a noob but need advice on pushing an E6850 past 460FSB.
I think that just might be the limit on the E6850's I have as I've tried on a few boards now.
Currently trying with the Maximus Rampage conversion on a 1.03g board (BIOS 219).
I'm trying to keep under 3.6Ghz due to cooling at the moment and more interested in trying to push FSB for memory performance.
I'm testing out some Patriot PC28500 2x2GB sticks and trying to get to 500x7 or 533x6.
dootiez
03-25-2008, 02:17 AM
I successfully changed my MF into a RF but I'm starting to have some DET DRAM problems. My old stable settings on the MF won't work and I get the DET DRAM hang when I set the FSB higher than 380 or so. It's either me screwing up mobo conversion process or there's some new thing in the BIOS I don't get yet.
Same here. I just converted my Maximus Formula to Rampage Formula bios and my old stable settings on the MF won't work as well. I, too, am getting alot of DET DRAM hang-ups. Right now, I'm just running on default till I get a better handle on new settings.
Any advice on how to tweak the Rampage Formula Bios?
*edit
And how do I flash back to Maximus Formula?
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Running on:
-Quad 6600 GO stepping
-Kingston HyperX 4 gig DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
XtremeTiramisu
03-25-2008, 03:47 AM
Same here. I just converted my Maximus Formula to Rampage Formula bios and my old stable settings on the MF won't work as well. I, too, am getting alot of DET DRAM hang-ups. Right now, I'm just running on default till I get a better handle on new settings.
Any advice on how to tweak the Rampage Formula Bios?
*edit
And how do I flash back to Maximus Formula?
____________________
Running on:
-Quad 6600 GO stepping
-Kingston HyperX 4 gig DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
You can try the flash method I posted above and replace the RF bios to MF bios of your choice. Type in the same command with the change to the MF bios name. It should work.
I don't get any DET RAM hang until I've reached ~460+FSB. Overall experience seems a bit more stable than MF bioses I've tried but performance wise, it's roughly the same in term of bandwidth from Everest. Performance level 7 = MF AI booster set to auto or disable 0. However there are more finer tuning options in the RF bios to help users squeeze a bit more bandwidth before the next unstable configuration.
It will take a lot of your time to find the exact best stable/performance configuation with all the extra fine tuning options that Asus has ever had to put in a bios. Prepare to reboot a lot of times and run countless everest benches to find the answers the usability of each finer options.
I think RF bios gives me much less DET RAM occassions than MF bios. I'm currently benching at 470FSB * 8 at performance level 7 and NB volt set to 1.67 in bios....yes it does need this high to even use OCCT/Prime95 to bench. Quad 6600 G0 at *8 multi does put a lot more stress on the NB than stock *9. Those of others who has 45nm e8x00 will luckier in OC in this case....I hope the new 45nm Q9x50 with its 8 or 8.5 multi will be more likely to bench stable at 470+fsb.
gurusan
03-25-2008, 03:51 AM
What sort of voltages are people needing to run 470fsb on a dual core?
I'm coming from a P5B and P5K, which both did 470fsb with 1.4V NB...so am I being too conservative on the voltage?
Grnfinger
03-25-2008, 03:52 AM
enable all pull-ins and set PL8
you will get better bandwidth and latency
XtremeTiramisu
03-25-2008, 04:00 AM
enable all pull-ins and set PL8
you will get better bandwidth and latency
Good call but that's essentially set PL7 and dissable all pull-ins.
I realized this cos after I've change first couple pull-ins to enable on channel A and B I see 77888 77888 for PL. It does increase the bandwidth and latency at the cost of system stability depends on which FSB strap you're currently running and the corresponding FSB.
Grnfinger
03-25-2008, 04:12 AM
Compared to PL7 disabled, PL8 enabled is faster
PL7 disabled
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test1-1.png
PL8 enabled
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test2-3.png
Notice the huge jump in L2 Cache
hard to argue
3.4GHz Prime blend stable
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 478
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1147
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled
CPU Voltage : 1.40
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
Skew set to AUTO
HellasVagabond
03-25-2008, 04:14 AM
Can someone give me a complete list of changes for the memories ? Considering that they are not maxed out at 1066MHz ( I wanted 1:1 ratio ) so they are running at 890MHz......
Ideas ?
gurusan
03-25-2008, 04:26 AM
your L2 cache bandwidth is much higher than mine, yet mine has almost twice the latency. Is this because you have a wolfdale chip?
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7914/cachememtp7.png
Grnfinger
03-25-2008, 04:31 AM
yeah 8400 are not that great on L2 and you also have a 69% OC
gurusan
03-25-2008, 04:35 AM
I thought it was the bus speed and not the % oc that mattered in terms of cache speeds and latencies.
Anyway that doesn't seem to slow them down as they are faster clock vs clock
Stanley Pain
03-25-2008, 05:16 AM
My account finally got validated. I've been following this thread for a while now.
The Rampage 219 bios defintely allows for a high FSB OC on my Q6600 G0. Previous best was around 425FSB, now I can pull over 480.
I'm still working on getting everything as high as possible but stable. Right now 480 x 8 with PL=6 seems to be the sweet spot. I can get the CPU to post at 4.2GHz, but it's not stable.
Thanks to everyone involved in this awesome mod. Can't wait to see some new BIOS to play around with.
Clemmer
03-25-2008, 07:34 AM
Dear proffessionals,
Question:
I am currently running a Maximus 1.3 Rev MB. (1004)
4 x 1 GB Corsair Dominators Pc2-8500 C5 (1066)
Q6600 w/go
Does anyone have BIOS settings for this type of config?
Should I make it a Rampage board?
Thanks!
andre X_X
03-25-2008, 07:40 AM
dont even bother flashed P5E3 Deluxe to Premium.. you'll ended up with dead mobo :(
my P5E3 Dlx cant boot right now... all fans spinning but no boot :(
gurusan
03-25-2008, 07:40 AM
sorry to hear that :(
BigGaroupa
03-25-2008, 07:43 AM
Having problems pushing my OCZ Reaper 4x2GB DDR2 rated @ 4-4-4-15 2.1v.
-CPU Q6600 @ 3.6GHz 4hours Prime95
-If I push my RAM past 800MHz 1 of the Prime95 threads will fails within minutes
-I've tried DDR2-961 @ 5-5-5-15 no go
-Also I noticed my CPU isn't stable unless I push 1.5v is there a workaround?
Any ideas how to push my RAM higher?
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.500
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
Stanley Pain
03-25-2008, 07:54 AM
dont even bother flashed P5E3 Deluxe to Premium.. you'll ended up with dead mobo :(
my P5E3 Dlx cant boot right now... all fans spinning but no boot :(
Oh man :(. Dead motherboards are never fun
dont even bother flashed P5E3 Deluxe to Premium.. you'll ended up with dead mobo :(
my P5E3 Dlx cant boot right now... all fans spinning but no boot :(
Can you try asus bios recovery?
Dostoyevsky77
03-25-2008, 08:36 AM
HellasVagabond, good to see you here as well as Nvidia forums!
I have problems when I try to run my 4x1GB at 1:1. This board is finicky with it. I need much more vNB and more vDIMM just to POST. Perhaps your problem is trying to stay at a conservative speed.
Try the 6:5 in the 333 strap. That seems to work best for me with 4x1 (sigged).
Oh, and my vNB is 1.49 and vDIMM is 2.18 (2.2 stock).
HellasVagabond
03-25-2008, 08:48 AM
Been here since a long time ago but i rarely ever post...I just watch :)
I am getting help over at OCZ Forums as well as here....This mobo is somewhat weird...
ante_ante
03-25-2008, 08:49 AM
Can someone help maybe with my crucial ballistix pc8500 rams.
Having hard time to get them stable over 1000mhz. I know these sticks does 600mhz + but when i´m setting it in bios i only get DET DRAM. Any clues what i should try out ??
Eastcoasthandle
03-25-2008, 09:26 AM
DRAM Voltage : 2.00 ??? why not 2.10V for that ram (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_8500_reaper_hpc_4gb_edition)? From what I've seen that ram is rated at 2.15V (depending on circumstance)
andre X_X
03-25-2008, 09:42 AM
how do i use asus bios recovery (asus crash free) when nothing appears in screen? its the black screen of death... if you have other way please help :(
andre X_X
03-25-2008, 09:47 AM
* Double Post *
Attach and insert asus CD or floppy (with autoexec.bat doing bios flash) and see if it starts reading it :)
HellasVagabond
03-25-2008, 09:54 AM
Well i am running them at 890MHz and not 1066MHz like they are supposed to run so i lowered the voltage.
Also isnt 1:1 ratio faster than anything else ?
andre X_X
03-25-2008, 11:42 AM
not work.. i think the boot sector already dead too....
dootiez
03-25-2008, 11:48 AM
You can try the flash method I posted above and replace the RF bios to MF bios of your choice. Type in the same command with the change to the MF bios name. It should work.
I don't get any DET RAM hang until I've reached ~460+FSB. Overall experience seems a bit more stable than MF bioses I've tried but performance wise, it's roughly the same in term of bandwidth from Everest. Performance level 7 = MF AI booster set to auto or disable 0. However there are more finer tuning options in the RF bios to help users squeeze a bit more bandwidth before the next unstable configuration.
It will take a lot of your time to find the exact best stable/performance configuation with all the extra fine tuning options that Asus has ever had to put in a bios. Prepare to reboot a lot of times and run countless everest benches to find the answers the usability of each finer options.
I think RF bios gives me much less DET RAM occassions than MF bios. I'm currently benching at 470FSB * 8 at performance level 7 and NB volt set to 1.67 in bios....yes it does need this high to even use OCCT/Prime95 to bench. Quad 6600 G0 at *8 multi does put a lot more stress on the NB than stock *9. Those of others who has 45nm e8x00 will luckier in OC in this case....I hope the new 45nm Q9x50 with its 8 or 8.5 multi will be more likely to bench stable at 470+fsb.
Thanks for the reply, XtremeTiramisu!:)
Well, I got the RF bios to run my previous MF bios setting of 8x450 fsb with ram timings and ram related settings set on auto. However, I noticed vCore and NB volts needed more juice than it did before when I was still using the MF bios. I think I'm gonna switch back to MF for the sake of lower voltage settings.
I wanna get this right in terms of flashing back to MF.
C:\>AFU236U /MF0907.rom /pbnc /n
Am I right?
gurusan
03-25-2008, 11:57 AM
C:\>AFU236U /iMF0907.rom /pbnc /n
You need the "i" in front of the mf0907.rom
also what's all this /pbnc business? I just use /n and it works fine for me.
icecpu
03-25-2008, 12:03 PM
Can someone help maybe with my crucial ballistix pc8500 rams.
Having hard time to get them stable over 1000mhz. I know these sticks does 600mhz + but when i´m setting it in bios i only get DET DRAM. Any clues what i should try out ??
This is my stable setting:
All sub timing set to auto
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 455
PCIE Frequency : 110
DRAM Frequency : DDR2-1093
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control : Manual
Cas# Latency : 5
Ras# to Cas# Delay : 5
Ras# Pre Time : 5
Ras# Act Time : 15
DRAM Stactic Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 07
Pull-In of CHA : (all Disabled)
CPU Voltage : 1.387
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference : 0.63x
NB GTL Voltage Reference : 0.67x
DRAM Controller Voltage REF : DDR2_REF
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF : Auto
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF : Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto
dootiez
03-25-2008, 12:11 PM
C:\>AFU236U /iMF0907.rom /pbnc /n
You need the "i" in front of the mf0907.rom
also what's all this /pbnc business? I just use /n and it works fine for me.
Hey Gurusan, I tried your method and Extremetiramisu's method and I can't flash back to MF bios.
I typed the exact same thing as you did: c:\> AFU236U /iMF0907.rom /pbnc /n
or just /n
And I keep getting an error that says:
Error: Rom file ROMID is not compatible with existing BIOS ROMID.
*edit
Never mind...I got it to work. I didn't know you weren't supposed to delete the RF bios from the USB memory stick. Whelp, I'm back to Maximus Formula bios! Home sweet home!
And Gurusan was right, you don't have to type /pbnc--just /n will do! Thanks Extreme and Gurusan for the responses and help! :)
ante_ante
03-25-2008, 12:41 PM
This is my stable setting:
All sub timing set to auto
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 455
PCIE Frequency : 110
DRAM Frequency : DDR2-1093
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control : Manual
Cas# Latency : 5
Ras# to Cas# Delay : 5
Ras# Pre Time : 5
Ras# Act Time : 15
DRAM Stactic Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 07
Pull-In of CHA : (all Disabled)
CPU Voltage : 1.387
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference : 0.63x
NB GTL Voltage Reference : 0.67x
DRAM Controller Voltage REF : DDR2_REF
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF : Auto
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF : Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto
Thanks for that :) Seems to work right now. Any difference of using either blue or white dimms ??
icecpu
03-25-2008, 01:00 PM
I never try using the white slots
Sources
03-25-2008, 01:19 PM
Well i am running them at 890MHz and not 1066MHz like they are supposed to run so i lowered the voltage.
Also isnt 1:1 ratio faster than anything else ?
I don't think that 1:1 is proven to be faster in real world usage at all.
HellasVagabond
03-25-2008, 01:28 PM
Actually it has in almost every case..The differences are too small indeed but if i am not to gain nothing why change it ?
Spyrus
03-25-2008, 01:30 PM
And i have never tried the blue ones lol!
M-XXXX
03-25-2008, 01:34 PM
I was playing with FSB (water had 4-5C:D ):
http://shrani.si/t/1A/xn/2i8Vm9pA/fsb-532mhz.jpg (http://shrani.si/?1A/xn/2i8Vm9pA/fsb-532mhz.jpg)
But it is quite interesting, that if I set mother board voltages too high, I can't past even 500mhz.
What are your settings for benching?
Grnfinger
03-25-2008, 01:57 PM
C:\>AFU236U /iMF0907.rom /pbnc /n
You need the "i" in front of the mf0907.rom
also what's all this /pbnc business? I just use /n and it works fine for me.
the switches are there for a reason, good idea to use them
for those who dont know
/n - don't check ROM ID
/pbnc -
b - Program Boot Block
n - Program NVRAM
c - Clear System CMOS
M-XXXX
03-25-2008, 02:07 PM
Afcourse not! (that would be extremely pathetic:eek: This voltage vas only for further overclocking (4500 super PI, on water- afcourse I've used higher voltage for that)
It needs 1.57 (bios) for Prime95 small FFT stable at 4ghz:D
Nice fsb for a Q6600:up:.....it is obvious he was aiming for FSB and i think those volts could backed a few notches tho.
gurusan
03-25-2008, 02:47 PM
ah thanks for that!
On a further note, I've just reached 467fsb with my P5E running rampage 219 bios.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1510/cachemem2of3.png
not bad for a 110 quid shipped board :)
Grnfinger
03-25-2008, 02:51 PM
very nice !
now is it stable?
gurusan
03-25-2008, 02:53 PM
very nice !
now is it stable?
running OCCT for 9 min now and going....we'll see.
Grnfinger
03-25-2008, 02:56 PM
The prodical son returns hahaha
how r u my friend?
Grnfinger
03-25-2008, 02:57 PM
:up:
gurusan
03-25-2008, 03:02 PM
bahh it crashed right after I wrote that....just set it back to my previous stable of 462mhz which still isn't so bad. I've had enough messing around for the night....Got a craving for some CoD4 now :)
hiya m8 , I am fine:D come msn if u r there:)
miptzi
03-25-2008, 04:18 PM
need some help:
Q6600 G0 (consider it STANDART batch) at 3.6ghz, 450x8 (trying 3.8ghz stalble 24/7)
maximus formula BIOS 505
4x1gb Crucial Ballistix 1066mhz, Brand new, still in sealed box :D)
it's one-sided memo's
hope my X38 don't kill them...................:(
wich timings, Vdimm, and AUTO things should I do?
just need some @1100-1150mhz stable
should I try multi X9 on cpu? wich would sound better?
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- XXXX?
DRAM Command Rate : XX?
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : XX?
RAS# to CAS# Delay : XX?
RAS# Precharge : XX?
RAS# ActivateTime : XX?
RAS# to RAS# Delay : XX?
Row Refresh Cycle Time : XX?
Write Recovery Time : XX?
Read to Precharge Time : XX?
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : XX?
Write to Read Delay (S) : XX?
Write to Read Delay (D) : XX?
Read to Read Delay (S) : XX?
Read to Read Delay (D) : XX?
Write to Write Delay (S) : XX?
Write to Write Delay (D) : XX?
DRAM Static Read Control: XX?
Ai Clock Twister : WIch would be better for 4x1gb pc8500 Ballistix?????
Transaction Booster : Enabled (0) is this right??
CPU Voltage : 1.5 Good?
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.5 good?
DRAM Voltage : XXX?
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled good?
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
Maglin
03-25-2008, 04:54 PM
ah thanks for that!
On a further note, I've just reached 467fsb with my P5E running rampage 219 bios.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1510/cachemem2of3.png
not bad for a 110 quid shipped board :)
Gurusan, You are going to want to reflash the RF BIOS. Your still showing as a P5E on your mem bench. It should say Formula Rampage. You probably didn't flash with all the correct switches to do the NVRam and bootblock which is probably what it being used to detect the MB. It might also maybe help get it stable as well, but I don't know on that front.
Expat GriZ
03-25-2008, 05:53 PM
Just wondering if there are any QX9650 owners out there who are willing to share their detailed 4 Ghz + settings. I'm slowly creaping it up (@3.5 ghz now with 1.2 volts bios, 1.192 V showing in CPU-Z 10X Multi, everything else on Auto) Memory at 1123 Mhz with 5 5 5 18 2T. The Rampage bios is quite different and a bit daunting. 4 Ghz is my dream target on air. Any suggestions or setting would be greatly appreciated.
gurusan
03-25-2008, 05:59 PM
Gurusan, You are going to want to reflash the RF BIOS. Your still showing as a P5E on your mem bench. It should say Formula Rampage. You probably didn't flash with all the correct switches to do the NVRam and bootblock which is probably what it being used to detect the MB. It might also maybe help get it stable as well, but I don't know on that front.
yeah I only used the /n switch....I'll reflash with the other switches tomorrow.
Thanks
Maglin
03-25-2008, 06:14 PM
:welcome: NP man. I figured that was what you did.
XtremeTiramisu
03-25-2008, 06:47 PM
Gurusan:
How did you get rid of the trial version limitation in our v4.50.1330 newest final release Everest?
You got me want to check my mobo ID under Everest CPUID.
Under Everest Mobo info, it does states I've a Rampage formula though.
Also 1.44.1 CPUZ also reports I've a Rampage formula.
But I'd like to double check on that from Everest's CPUID
If anyone knows how to do that, pls let me know.
Here is a screenshot:
As you can see, prime smallfft stable isn't a problem at 475*8, 333 strap, 1140mhz DDRII. But prime blend is still hell of hard to get stable....and same problem with OCCT using MIX...
Stability is a bit better than MF bioses and very rare occassion you get a DET RAM hang unless your system is really unstable due to undervolting on the NB or else where you'd need to find out.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/Capture2.jpg
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1140
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled
CPU Voltage : 1.52500
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.63
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
ZenEffect
03-25-2008, 07:16 PM
Gurusan:
How did you get rid of the trial version limitation in our v4.50.1330 newest final release Everest?
You got me want to check my mobo ID under Everest CPUID.
Under Everest Mobo info, it does states I've a Rampage formula though.
Also 1.44.1 CPUZ also reports I've a Rampage formula.
But I'd like to double check on that from Everest's CPUID
If anyone knows how to do that, pls let me know.
tools >>> everest cpuid?
or
alt+t then c (just c no alt)
i dont have the same version but i imagine its the same?:shrug:
my everest is v4.20.1285 Beta
it works perfectly
XtremeTiramisu
03-25-2008, 07:23 PM
tools >>> everest cpuid?
or
alt+t then c (just c no alt)
i dont have the same version but i imagine its the same?:shrug:
my everest is v4.20.1285 Beta
it works perfectly
Thanks for your help but I meant how to get rid of the trial version limitation so I can view the restricted options
:)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/Capture3.jpg
ericab
03-25-2008, 07:41 PM
Thanks for your help but I meant how to get rid of the trial version limitation so I can view the restricted options
:)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/Capture3.jpg
this day in-age, i would have assumed everyone had heard of bittorrent before;
guess not! :rolleyes:
(note: i paid for mine)
eva2000
03-25-2008, 08:12 PM
Gurusan:
How did you get rid of the trial version limitation in our v4.50.1330 newest final release Everest?purchase a paid license for it !
Newms118
03-25-2008, 08:18 PM
hey guys, still new to all this overclocking. i have my q6600 at 3.2 and my ballistix tracer 1066 ram running at 800 mhz using these settings
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto
CPU Voltage : set = 1.36 actual = 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : auto, actual = 1.6
North Bridge Voltage : set = 1.49 actual = 1.48
DRAM Voltage : set = 2.08 actual 2.128
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.424
South Bridge Voltage : 1.056
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 1.072
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.504
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
ive tried lowering my vcore and NB volt as much as i can but when i go any lower prime95 gives me blue screens in vista 32 bit or i get blue screens while prime95 is going and im looking at websites. any suggestions on what else i can do? i know this board is more capable. also i have my ram at 800 and low volt for fear of killing it, though its double sided so maybe it not effected by this problem? thanks
Newms118
03-25-2008, 08:19 PM
o i forgot, bios is still 0907, still dont want to update to 1003 or 1004, should i go ahead and try?
Droperidolum
03-25-2008, 08:46 PM
Hi! Who knows where does CPU PLL Voltage and SB voltage measure pionts situated?
Here are some measures and overvoltages by mobo idle/burn. (LoadLine Calibration Enabled)
I want to control Vpll and Vsb by DMM too.
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4402/asusmfmonittt2.png
Jodiuh
03-25-2008, 10:53 PM
Along w/ NOD32, I really need to buy this. The beta's don't time out, but it would be nice to see everything.
icecpu
03-25-2008, 11:14 PM
Thank you everyone for this great thread putting my Maximus rock solid stable now, say goodbye to DET DRAM.
I had several weeks of frustration this board getting hang DET DRAM.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n174/mycotrang/Untitled-8.jpg
p2501
03-26-2008, 01:45 AM
What I wonder is how many people exactly had problems with Windows after doing this mod? I mean people who didn't do a full reinstall? I'm trying around with the 505 BIOS now but my experiences are not much different from 907, except that with 505 the box isn't booting at FBS 450 no matter what I do. I noticed ripple on 12v, maybe thats my problem..
mazda_626
03-26-2008, 01:50 AM
here is my current settings and complaints before the bios change, please refrain from any comments on bad settings, I want to see if my current knowledge and the new rampage bios proves to make things better:)
Im currently still using the MF907 beta bios (most of the MF bios' appear to be beta :rolleyes: )
I hate this board with a vengence, i went from a DFI expert to this, problem is i expected things to go just as smoothly as the DFI board, my mistake :)
currently my mobo is only stable when O/C'd and with the two different types of ram, which is confusing to me but meh.
currently room temp is warm, about 28-30c (estimate), mobo temp is 38c, cpu idle is 45c, cpu load is 65c. all according to Speedfan, coretemp shows idle as 42,39,33,32c so all is normalish.
I use every fan port possible with success in viarable fan speeds.
I've only had this mobo since mid December, played with it for a month and found it likes all the ram modules, remove either kit and the o/c drops :confused: drop the multi and the FSB wont go up without alot of voltages.
in reality, this is probably due to the amount of HDD's, heat and the ram along with my noobness. but i tried many things and just cant get over 400FSB with the current setup and bios.
I also cant restart the computer without hitting the reset switch. it will shut down and restart but on OS hand over, it just has a blank screens, hit the reset switch and when the OS sarts, it ask if i want to boot into safe mode. only ever happens when i restart from OS, restart from bios is fine. could be a raid 0 bug.
occasionally the system will hang at the bios post screen, so i uploaded a pic i like to look at just to ease the pain, then hit the reset switch.
with probe 2 installed, i get a bios warning stsating the SB is too hot, this can be from cold boot
currently rock solid stable and here are the settings
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
(- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9)
FSB Frequency : 378
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1007
DRAM Command Rate : T2
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : A
Row Refresh Cycle Time : A
Write Recovery Time : A
Read to Precharge Time : A
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : A
Write to Read Delay (S) : A
Write to Read Delay (D) : A
Read to Read Delay (S) : A
Read to Read Delay (D) : A
Write to Write Delay (S) : A
Write to Write Delay (D) : A
DRAM Static Read Control: A
Ai Clock Twister : A
Transaction Booster : A
CPU Voltage : 1.1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : E
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : A
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
(- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9)
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
I shall now hunt down the everest download (page 2 i think) and post some scores. anything else people want before i move to the rampage bios?
I suppose i cant say i hate this mobo, it is a challenge to get stable but atleast it's easir to work with than the gigabyte DQ6 or so I've heard.:rolleyes:
Before i do spam the thread with everst and temp pics, along with 3Dmark scores, I'll make a dual boot of XP, then i will use the same OS with the new bios, just to keep things constant.
So it will take a few days, thought some people waiting for results may wish to know :)
cyrixMII300
03-26-2008, 02:59 AM
hello everyone. find here my results and settings. this is coming from memory mind you. i would go home later tonight and double confirm the values.
Current Bios Version Used is 0907 with XP SP2.
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1199
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 42
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Boost Level : 0
CPU Voltage : Auto
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
p2501
03-26-2008, 03:28 AM
cyrixMII300, i would be very careful with all those voltages you have set to "AUTO", this board overvolts alot of them. So if I were you I would start sorting out the voltages your board/cpu really needs while keeping a close watch to them via BIOS monitoring, Everest, whatnot so you don't kill your hardware. For example, what are your current vDIMM volts?
And btw, look at your load temps, over 15°C between the core pairs, you will have to reseat your HSF.
Grnfinger
03-26-2008, 03:41 AM
If you find the Maximus hard to setup the bios, I would recommend not moving to the Rampage untill you learn the MF settings
cyrixMII300
03-26-2008, 03:44 AM
cyrixMII300, i would be very careful with all those voltages you have set to "AUTO", this board overvolts alot of them. So if I were you I would start sorting out the voltages your board/cpu really needs while keeping a close watch to them via BIOS monitoring, Everest, whatnot so you don't kill your hardware. For example, what are your current vDIMM volts?
And btw, look at your load temps, over 15°C between the core pairs, you will have to reseat your HSF.
Thanks for the heads up mate. Actually i was planning on nailing down the volts of the entire system sometime this weekend (provided my wife doesnt get on my case that is).
As for the temps of the CPU. this is something that has been bugging me too. Unfortunately I just got to Rome and dont have a clue of where to get some good thermal paste which I need to have before proceeding with my plans to lap the Thermalright. Have to get to that one also ASAP.
Thanks again.
ElEctric_EyE
03-26-2008, 03:49 AM
here is my current settings and complaints before the bios change, please refrain from any comments on bad settings, I want to see if my current knowledge and the new rampage bios proves to make things better:)
Im currently still using the MF907 beta bios (most of the MF bios' appear to be beta :rolleyes: )
I hate this board with a vengence, i went from a DFI expert to this, problem is i expected things to go just as smoothly as the DFI board, my mistake :)
currently my mobo is only stable when O/C'd and with the two different types of ram, which is confusing to me but meh.
currently room temp is warm, about 28-30c (estimate), mobo temp is 38c, cpu idle is 45c, cpu load is 65c. all according to Speedfan, coretemp shows idle as 42,39,33,32c so all is normalish.
I use every fan port possible with success in viarable fan speeds.
I've only had this mobo since mid December, played with it for a month and found it likes all the ram modules, remove either kit and the o/c drops :confused: drop the multi and the FSB wont go up without alot of voltages.
in reality, this is probably due to the amount of HDD's, heat and the ram along with my noobness. but i tried many things and just cant get over 400FSB with the current setup and bios.
I also cant restart the computer without hitting the reset switch. it will shut down and restart but on OS hand over, it just has a blank screens, hit the reset switch and when the OS sarts, it ask if i want to boot into safe mode. only ever happens when i restart from OS, restart from bios is fine. could be a raid 0 bug.
occasionally the system will hang at the bios post screen, so i uploaded a pic i like to look at just to ease the pain, then hit the reset switch.
with probe 2 installed, i get a bios warning stsating the SB is too hot, this can be from cold boot
currently rock solid stable and here are the settings
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
(- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9)
FSB Frequency : 378
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1007
DRAM Command Rate : T2
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : A
Row Refresh Cycle Time : A
Write Recovery Time : A
Read to Precharge Time : A
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : A
Write to Read Delay (S) : A
Write to Read Delay (D) : A
Read to Read Delay (S) : A
Read to Read Delay (D) : A
Write to Write Delay (S) : A
Write to Write Delay (D) : A
DRAM Static Read Control: A
Ai Clock Twister : A
Transaction Booster : A
CPU Voltage : 1.1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : E
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : A
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
(- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9)
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
I shall now hunt down the everest download (page 2 i think) and post some scores. anything else people want before i move to the rampage bios?
I suppose i cant say i hate this mobo, it is a challenge to get stable but atleast it's easir to work with than the gigabyte DQ6 or so I've heard.:rolleyes:
Before i do spam the thread with everst and temp pics, along with 3Dmark scores, I'll make a dual boot of XP, then i will use the same OS with the new bios, just to keep things constant.
So it will take a few days, thought some people waiting for results may wish to know :)
I notice you're a Q6600 user, keep an eye on the number of cores reported in the BIOS. I just reflashed 0219 and it reported 4. After tweaking, I noticed later it reports 2 cores. I know I can't be the only 1. I am curious what setting is making this happen.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2848841&postcount=593
me3850
03-26-2008, 05:47 AM
ftp asus need a password?? :eek:
ushatia76
03-26-2008, 05:54 AM
ftp asus need a password?? :eek:
Try again: ftp://ftp.asus.com/
GlowingBulb
03-26-2008, 06:25 AM
I had exactly the same issue when pushing an FSB above 455 with a Q6600 G0. Basically down to a couple of cores (0 & 1) dropping off the FSB due to not having the flexibility to alter the GTL. I'm hoping that I'll now be able to push further with the added setting in the 219 BIOS.
On a side note, when I was able to post with just 2 cores I could run Orthos etc quite stabilty on them. I guess its down to the CPU being 2 C2D's stuck together & there being a difference in the quality of the chips.
zlojack
03-26-2008, 06:48 AM
What I wonder is how many people exactly had problems with Windows after doing this mod? I mean people who didn't do a full reinstall? I'm trying around with the 505 BIOS now but my experiences are not much different from 907, except that with 505 the box isn't booting at FBS 450 no matter what I do. I noticed ripple on 12v, maybe thats my problem..
I've had no problems with Windows so far. I still plan to do a full re-install in the near future because it's been messy with my vid card drivers and some other crap, as well as numerous crashes and BSODs from overclocking in the last little while.
It's such a huge PITA to do, but once it's done and clean, then I can do a more orderly installation of programs and hopefully improve the performance, which has been slowing down lately.
zlojack
03-26-2008, 06:53 AM
Just wondering if there are any QX9650 owners out there who are willing to share their detailed 4 Ghz + settings. I'm slowly creaping it up (@3.5 ghz now with 1.2 volts bios, 1.192 V showing in CPU-Z 10X Multi, everything else on Auto) Memory at 1123 Mhz with 5 5 5 18 2T. The Rampage bios is quite different and a bit daunting. 4 Ghz is my dream target on air. Any suggestions or setting would be greatly appreciated.
I'm still working on mine. Got stable so far at 4.0 GHz with 9.5 x 421 (or 10x400) on ~1.40 - 1.41v (still testing this)
My ultimate goal is to get that to 10x420ish for 4.2+ GHz and 1100 MHz+ RAM 24/7
I'll see if I can post my (so far) stable 4.0 when I get home today.
GlowingBulb
03-26-2008, 07:05 AM
As for having to reinstall Windows after modding to the Rampage BIOS I had no issues at all, either with Vista Ultimate or XP Home
Brama
03-26-2008, 07:38 AM
As for having to reinstall Windows after modding to the Rampage BIOS I had no issues at all, either with Vista Ultimate or XP Home
Me 2, coming from a P5E! ;)
I had only to validate again my copy of Vista business. Luckly everything was done online by a click and a waiting of a couple of seconds.
Stanley Pain
03-26-2008, 07:52 AM
No issues with Vista x64 Ultimate. Didn't even have to re-activate which was nice.
does the rampage bios update solve the DET DRAM issue?
BigGaroupa
03-26-2008, 08:04 AM
I'm having slight problems with my Q6600 G0.
I can't seem to get it stable'ish uness I'm pushing 1.5v core. Is there any other values I could adjust to lower the vcore requirements?
I tried running a marathon Prime95, it failed after about 14 hours. Under load the Core MAX temp is 69/69/66/66, on average the temps are 64/64/61/61. I think I have a pretty good seating, only 3c variance between the two cores.
Compared to my old setup with 3.0GHz @ 1.4v my temps were 55/55/51/51 looks like things got a lot worse :(
I'm using 0907 on Windows Vista 64.
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.5
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Spyrus
03-26-2008, 08:05 AM
DET DRAM Issues most occure when tight spd has been programmed or from wrong user overclocking issues.
If your system boots just fine with default settings then you overclocking settings has to do with DET DRAM
Stanley Pain
03-26-2008, 08:08 AM
does the rampage bios update solve the DET DRAM issue?
I fixed my DET DRAM issue by setting DRAM Static Read Control to disabled. Auto/Enabled would give me problems even @ stock speeds for some reason.
ElEctric_EyE
03-26-2008, 08:39 AM
I had exactly the same issue when pushing an FSB above 455 with a Q6600 G0. Basically down to a couple of cores (0 & 1) dropping off the FSB due to not having the flexibility to alter the GTL. I'm hoping that I'll now be able to push further with the added setting in the 219 BIOS.
On a side note, when I was able to post with just 2 cores I could run Orthos etc quite stabilty on them. I guess its down to the CPU being 2 C2D's stuck together & there being a difference in the quality of the chips.
I know what your saying there, but only the BIOS is missing the other 2 cores. CPU-Z sees it, Everest and Windows sees all 4.
GlowingBulb
03-26-2008, 08:45 AM
Ah, sorry, I misunderstood what you meant then... In my case (using 907 BIOS I think) it was the BIOS, CPUz & anything else you care to mention that couldnt see cores 0 & 1.
I'm at a loss with your problem there bud.
ante_ante
03-26-2008, 09:18 AM
Tried my ballistix in the white slots today, then seems to work better there. Got some hangs today in the blue slots. Will try to push memorys higher later
ghost_recon88
03-26-2008, 09:47 AM
I didn't read all 33 pages, but did flashing the Maximus to the Rampage allow for a higher FSB overclock? If so, what are people now maxing out at?
Stanley Pain
03-26-2008, 10:03 AM
I didn't read all 33 pages, but did flashing the Maximus to the Rampage allow for a higher FSB overclock? If so, what are people now maxing out at?
Yes, and read the last couple of pages, since pictures > words :D
Personally I'm able to push my FSB upto about 480 now (not 24/7 stable, but benchmark/game stable for hours), 450 @ 24/7 which is up from the 410-425 I used to get.
icecpu
03-26-2008, 10:30 AM
Tried my ballistix in the white slots today, then seems to work better there. Got some hangs today in the blue slots. Will try to push memorys higher later
What voltage are you set in bios ?? I have to set my vdimms at v2.20, set lower cause hang.
trans am
03-26-2008, 10:37 AM
Now find me a way to turn my P5e3 dLX into p5e3 premium
just loaded rampage bios :D will post later how good or bad it is
gurusan
03-26-2008, 11:51 AM
What voltage are you set in bios ?? I have to set my vdimms at v2.20, set lower cause hang.
ive found this board overvolts the vDIMM by about .08v ...just thought you should know.
Sources
03-26-2008, 12:08 PM
I'm gonna RAMPAGE this weekend !!!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!
ericab
03-26-2008, 12:23 PM
just so everyone knows; it look like ASUS has password locked their FTP...
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula
whats the deal ?
icecpu
03-26-2008, 12:25 PM
ive found this board overvolts the vDIMM by about .08v ...just thought you should know.
yes, but I can't set it lower than v2.20, anything lower cause hang DET DRAM.
newls1
03-26-2008, 12:46 PM
I'm gonna RAMPAGE this weekend !!!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!
you and me both!
Spyrus
03-26-2008, 01:18 PM
just so everyone knows; it look like ASUS has password locked their FTP...
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula
whats the deal ?
We have this though.. ;)
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=Maximus%20Formula
Spyrus
03-26-2008, 01:19 PM
1004 beta is out also at site
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=Maximus%20Formula
zlojack
03-26-2008, 02:00 PM
If it's available on their site, wouldn't that mean it's not a "beta" anymore? At least according to them.
EDIT: Oops, I see they even list it as a beta on their site. Sorry :D
newls1
03-26-2008, 02:13 PM
does the 1004 bios allow for tRFC up to 52? if so, im thinking going this route first before the rampage mod. Anyone have results with the 1004 bios while using 8GB of ram?
Grnfinger
03-26-2008, 02:38 PM
does the 1004 bios allow for tRFC up to 52? if so, im thinking going this route first before the rampage mod. Anyone have results with the 1004 bios while using 8GB of ram?
yes 1004 has alot higher trfc options
icecpu
03-26-2008, 02:40 PM
Anyone notice the rampage 219 bios no longer showing how many core during the boot up. It show speed of your proccessor only.
Grnfinger
03-26-2008, 02:48 PM
just so everyone knows; it look like ASUS has password locked their FTP...
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula
whats the deal ?
FTP works for me
newls1
03-26-2008, 02:51 PM
just installed the 1004 bios, and still the damn ram dividers are broken. The only usable divider (FOR ME) is the 400 strap. So unless its my ballistix are the divider issue, the only hope I have for my 8gb's of G.skill PC8500 that is coming tomorrow is DDR1135. Damn, wish me some luck here guys. At least this bios allows tRFC up to like 150 or something, my other bios 903, would only allow for up to 42. SO I had to flash to this bios for my g.skill ram coming as I keep seeing that ram needs tRFC @ 52 minimum.....
Grnfinger
03-26-2008, 03:02 PM
1:1 and 5:6 were all I ran but they did work on both 400 and 333 strap.
I have had 266 strap 1:1 but didnt like the bandwidth
GFORCE100
03-26-2008, 03:02 PM
The Rampage 0219 BIOS is a lot lot better in terms of dividers and performance levels. You won't do 1200MHz RAM on the Formula (whatever BIOS) with TB/AIB enabled and > Moderate but hop onto the Rampage conversion using BIOS 0219 and 1200MHz is not only possible but with TB/AIB enabled to Strong/Moderate with a PL of 5 or 6. Gets you 9500MB/sec read bandwidth in Everest on a 9x400 setup and latency of around 52.4ns (5-5-5-15).
Now if anyone is willing to take the VDDR up then 4-4-4-12 at 1200MHz is also possible for some sub 50ns RAM access times.
Couple the above at say 10x400 using a QX9650 (newer C1 steppings are shipping SLAWN spec, not yet listed on Intel site) for 4GHz and seems to me this is heaven until Nahelm comes along.
For whatever reason the Formula BIOS is just worse than the Rampage, not to mention it has less options.
Expat GriZ
03-26-2008, 03:19 PM
Anyone notice the rampage 219 bios no longer showing how many core during the boot up. It show speed of your proccessor only.
After numerous failed OC attempts today I have to say that no, it showed all 4 cores for me everytime.
newls1
03-26-2008, 03:49 PM
The Rampage 0219 BIOS is a lot lot better in terms of dividers and performance levels. You won't do 1200MHz RAM on the Formula (whatever BIOS) with TB/AIB enabled and > Moderate but hop onto the Rampage conversion using BIOS 0219 and 1200MHz is not only possible but with TB/AIB enabled to Strong/Moderate with a PL of 5 or 6. Gets you 9500MB/sec read bandwidth in Everest on a 9x400 setup and latency of around 52.4ns (5-5-5-15).
Now if anyone is willing to take the VDDR up then 4-4-4-12 at 1200MHz is also possible for some sub 50ns RAM access times.
Couple the above at say 10x400 using a QX9650 (newer C1 steppings are shipping SLAWN spec, not yet listed on Intel site) for 4GHz and seems to me this is heaven until Nahelm comes along.
For whatever reason the Formula BIOS is just worse than the Rampage, not to mention it has less options.
I;ll do the rampage right now, but I dont understand how to flash to that using the instructions that guy posted in his thread. Is there a more simplier way of doing it?
GlowingBulb
03-26-2008, 04:12 PM
The Rampage BIOS seems a little better with my Q6600 but still getting that issue with cores 0 & 1 not showing when I push the FSB higher than 460.
On a positive note, I've been able to shave a couple of points of both my FSB & NB voltage needed.
Come the weekend & some spare time I'll spend some time seeing how much I can fettle the settings to improve things.
RCG_Bex
03-26-2008, 04:16 PM
Hey guys, I'm on an E6750 and looking to go for 4ghz. I'm using 1200mhz rated RAM - would I be better flashing it to a rampage or sticking to a go stable maximus BIOS? Also, could someone share working BIOS settings for helping me reach 4GHZ? 3.8GHZ boots but 4GHZ doesn't post with renegade's original 903 settings.
~Bex
mazda_626
03-26-2008, 05:23 PM
If you find the Maximus hard to setup the bios, I would recommend not moving to the Rampage untill you learn the MF settingsIt's not hard to setup the bios, just the board is not as easy and stable as the DFI board was. guess i expected more, like bios updates :)
I left most of the ram timings on auto since the board is more stable that way, change any of the timings and it wont pass 24 hrs prime. personally i think it was a bad bios update, i would flash it again but asus in there greatness and massive wisdom blocks the bios from being backdated or reflashed. Atleast thats my experience anyway.
I know i can now use the afudos from this site to reflash, but I may as well just install the rampage bios.
3.4Ghz isnt too bad either, so i'm not saying this board is crap, just has some annouying quirks
newls1
03-26-2008, 05:28 PM
OK, just flashed to the Rampage 219 bios, and everything seems pretty much the same as the 1004 maximus BIOS. All dividers are borked BUT the 400 strap. Just like every other bios i've flashed to, on the 400 strap works. Is this a board limitation? Other then that, seems pretty damn cool. Hope it likes my 8GB coming tomorrow!
newls1
03-26-2008, 06:01 PM
I have just a few questions about some of the new settings, and where about to set them at?
1. Common Performance lvl? I have it set to 7
2. pull in of CHA PH1 = enabled
pull in of cha PH2 = enabled
pull in of chb PH1 = enabled
pull in of chb ph2 = enabled
(should these be enabled or disabled????)
3. CPU PLL voltage auto sets to 1.648 IS THIS TO MUCH???
My basic settings are:
fsb 426
NB strap 400 (only 1 that works)
DDR 1135 (2gb ballistix)
Im just playing around with this new bios, but I can say that this RAMPAGE change over made a difference. Prior to this I couldn't even boot at 430FSB with my Q6600, not with the same voltage (1.432) it seems stable:)
ericab
03-26-2008, 06:22 PM
so today i got my corsair dominator's! so far pretty awesome but i think i can do better on a few things, at least, hoping so.
here are my settings-
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5255/cachemem221no3.png
Extreme Tweaker:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1113/cimg1271kg6.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6576/cimg1272br3.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6347/cimg1273od5.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2319/cimg1274ny4.jpg
any suggestions on improvements?? wtf is up with my WRITE speed ??
also, any suggestion on lowering voltages?
for anyone with a similar hardware setup, this seems to be a good setup so-far, @100% stable..
*edit*
the corsairs are revision 2.2's (unfortunately...)... do you think im ok w/2.12v in BIOS, & 2.22v REAL ?
dude_500
03-26-2008, 07:33 PM
Great voltage ericab, I need 1.45 just to get 3.6 stable on my q6600 g0. that's amazingly low for 3760
ericab
03-26-2008, 07:42 PM
Great voltage ericab, I need 1.45 just to get 3.6 stable on my q6600 g0. that's amazingly low for 3760
:eek: whats your VID ?
Nuckin_Futs
03-26-2008, 08:24 PM
Looks pretty simple and str8 foward, just like modding the PSP.
However, with all the so-called benifits being RAM sub timings, where do these show actual user results in real world apps (not just games) and especially not just for synthetic apps desighned to show numbers higher by small fractions? I realize it's fun to OC for the max, but are modding such a new mobo, voiding warrenty, just to score a few more benchmark points that worth it. I mean I only tried the BETA 0907 BIOS and it messed mine up and I had to RMA, (still waiting), imagine if on RAMPAGE, I'd be eatin' that one today. I'd end up just buying the real RAMPAGE for the same I spent on Formula.
I'm just curious, cause I see only the score numbers but hear nothing about the real world Office or Adobe apps benifits.
zlojack
03-26-2008, 08:42 PM
Looks pretty simple and str8 foward, just like modding the PSP.
However, with all the so-called benifits being RAM sub timings, where do these show actual user results in real world apps (not just games) and especially not just for synthetic apps desighned to show numbers higher by small fractions? I realize it's fun to OC for the max, but are modding such a new mobo, voiding warrenty, just to score a few more benchmark points that worth it. I mean I only tried the BETA 0907 BIOS and it messed mine up and I had to RMA, (still waiting), imagine if on RAMPAGE, I'd be eatin' that one today. I'd end up just buying the real RAMPAGE for the same I spent on Formula.
I'm just curious, cause I see only the score numbers but hear nothing about the real world Office or Adobe apps benifits.
Well, around here, a few extra points in benchmarks are always appreciated.
afireinside
03-26-2008, 09:12 PM
What BIOS is best now? And how are they clocking with the wolfdales? Just ordered my self an e8400 and I never really spent any time with this board, been out of the computer loop.
XtremeTiramisu
03-27-2008, 01:10 AM
Q6600 G0 & Ballistix Tracers OCCT Mix 2 Hrs Stable Configuration:
My OC exp tells me that RF0219 BIOS does help my Q6600 at *8 multi acheived FSB475 using 333 Strap but it wasn't fully stable enough to pass OCCT/PRIME stress tests long enough (Everest Tests or similar permittable).
Q6600 at *8 multi and high FSB460+ can means a lot more stress on the NB than equivalent clock using *9 multi. *9 multi could bring the CPU clock all the way up to 3870mhz Prime SmallFFT stable on air but at the cost of lower system bandwidth. *8 multi brings out better overall system performance but at the cost of stability due much higher NB clock speed (Using NBCC calculation: FSB * Stock Multi/Set Multi = FSB465 * 9/8 = 2093mhz vs 1860mhz). RF0219 is still a little more stable than MF bioses at high FSB configuation becouse of fewer occassions of "DET RAM" hang. Overall OC experience is a bit more smoother than the MF bioses I've tried.
Stability is my main concern and I can finally pass OCCT Mix 2 Hrs stress test using RF0219 Bios at 465FSB*8 Multi, 333 Strap. Technically speaking, RF0219 bios doesn't give me an advancement in OC but it does help my system stabilized at FSB465. No DET RAM hang and no odd problems.
The additional finer tuning options in the RF bios gives me a slightly more system bandwidth at no additional cost to system stability when you tuned the settings right. You need to have an idea of the FSB set to the corresponding FSB strap used to know how much further bandwidth can you gain from adjusting the performance level settings in Transaction Booster.
Here is the full configurations for your reference:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 465
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1116
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 8
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled (Enable will gives you slightly more bandwidth at the cost of stability)
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
C/P: A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 | B1 B2 B3 B4 B5
LVL: 07 07 07 07 07 | 07 07 07 07 07
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled
CPU Voltage : 1.48750 (1.464-1.472)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO (1.664-1.680)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65 (1.680)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12 (2.208)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40 (1.456)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075 (1.104)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF (1.104)
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/465x8stableRF0219.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/DDR2-1116-5-4-4-8Stable.jpg
GFORCE100
03-27-2008, 01:39 AM
I;ll do the rampage right now, but I dont understand how to flash to that using the instructions that guy posted in his thread. Is there a more simplier way of doing it?
Which part don't you understand? It's a pretty simple 123..etc. process. His mod files contain the 207 Rampage BIOS, flash with that then flash again with the 219 BIOS.
ante_ante
03-27-2008, 01:48 AM
What voltage are you set in bios ?? I have to set my vdimms at v2.20, set lower cause hang.
I´m now running my memorys in ~1150mhz with 2.20v in bios...
mazda_626
03-27-2008, 01:55 AM
I've changed to the rampage bios 219, so far it has made a change.
I am currently only stable at 3Ghz instead of 3.4Ghz due to the ram being unstable
When compaing setting with everest, it appears the Tref has dropped from 16383 to 15600 and the Write to read delay setting for same rank wont hold setting I try. for instance i set 13 and it comes up as 5, i try 15 and it comes up as 7.
I am also using the ram 1:1, which brings the ram to 756Mhz, it use to be stable at 1007Mhz. they fail in memtest and almost straight away in prime.
more playing needs to be done since i've obviuosly done things backwards by trying the original settings.
I've also noticed the auto settings tighten certian settings, yes i have tried to manually set the timings.
At FSB 333Mhz 1:1 all seems stable, bump up the ram above 667Mhz and it will fail.
I have also noticed the are less choices in ram dividers, not that it really matters, but with MF 907 i had 4 choices in ram speed, with 219, i have 3. again, no big concern, just a difference.
I cant figure out how to change the Tref and the Write to read delay setting for same rank not holding the setting i set in the bios is alittle concerning but then i am only trying to mirror the 907 settings which was 13 and that may be way overkill.
I know the CPU is stable at 378Mhz x9 so i'll atleast all i need to do is play with the ram tll its stable and bump it up slowly.
probably doesnt help i have 4 sticks installed and they are not matching sets, but the MF 907 didnt have an issue with this.
more playing with timings needed:)
is there a program (other than everest) that i can use which will report the ram timings?
[timko]
03-27-2008, 02:00 AM
I have just a few questions about some of the new settings, and where about to set them at?
Here is my own observation of Performance level and Pull-In. When performance level is set to x and all pull in are enabled my bandwidth scores are the same as PL X - 1 with all Pull In disabled. Therefore PL7 Enabled performs like PL6 Disabled. (Or you could almost view it as Pull In Enabled = 0.5 lower PL, in the above example PL7 Enabled would be PL6.5).
In any case my sticks of RAM ran at a certain speed with PL7 on the MF1004 BIOS. In order to achieve the same speed stable on the Rampage I had to use PL8 Enabled. Even though I went up (relaxed) a Performance Level I still got the same scores in the Everest cache and mem benchmark.
As for your dividers issue, I suspect that you may need to relax a few settings for now to test things out. Try PL7, Pull in disabled, Twister to Moderate and run a lower FSB with a divider pushing the RAM higher. Also give your NB a touch more voltage. I can get all dividers working with no problems, assuming it doesn't push my RAM over a known limit to which I've previously tested stable to. Dividers were fine for me on the MF bioses as well.
Nuckin_Futs
03-27-2008, 02:03 AM
Well, around here, a few extra points in benchmarks are always appreciated.
Totolly understood, just curious if anybody has actually run real media creation or editing apps to see if it pays off. Like I keep saying, I go for high end test too, but it usually never hold in real world day to day.
I'd do more sub RAM tweaking if I knew more of what the actual setting was doing for my OC other then report a higher score in benchmark. So I usually leave them to auto or nominal for stability during editing.
XtremeTiramisu
03-27-2008, 02:22 AM
I've made a post about a simplier way to flash to Rampage:
Read
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2864846&postcount=2484
atomica
03-27-2008, 03:17 AM
is the Rampage Bios more stable? and once you go rampage, is it possible to revert back to maximus formula?
thanks
ante_ante
03-27-2008, 03:31 AM
is the Rampage Bios more stable? and once you go rampage, is it possible to revert back to maximus formula?
thanks
Yes, u can return back to MF i you want...
p2501
03-27-2008, 03:32 AM
is the Rampage Bios more stable? and once you go rampage, is it possible to revert back to maximus formula?
thanks
Did you bother to look at this? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179580
Grnfinger
03-27-2008, 03:41 AM
What BIOS is best now? And how are they clocking with the wolfdales? Just ordered my self an e8400 and I never really spent any time with this board, been out of the computer loop.
1004 and your 8400 will play very nice.
for MF 1004 is the best to date imo for 45nm
ElEctric_EyE
03-27-2008, 03:59 AM
just so everyone knows; it look like ASUS has password locked their FTP...
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula
whats the deal ?
Dammit, it is locked... Guess they don't need us anymore.
newls1
03-27-2008, 04:37 AM
;2871884']Here is my own observation of Performance level and Pull-In. When performance level is set to x and all pull in are enabled my bandwidth scores are the same as PL X - 1 with all Pull In disabled. Therefore PL7 Enabled performs like PL6 Disabled. (Or you could almost view it as Pull In Enabled = 0.5 lower PL, in the above example PL7 Enabled would be PL6.5).
In any case my sticks of RAM ran at a certain speed with PL7 on the MF1004 BIOS. In order to achieve the same speed stable on the Rampage I had to use PL8 Enabled. Even though I went up (relaxed) a Performance Level I still got the same scores in the Everest cache and mem benchmark.
As for your dividers issue, I suspect that you may need to relax a few settings for now to test things out. Try PL7, Pull in disabled, Twister to Moderate and run a lower FSB with a divider pushing the RAM higher. Also give your NB a touch more voltage. I can get all dividers working with no problems, assuming it doesn't push my RAM over a known limit to which I've previously tested stable to. Dividers were fine for me on the MF bioses as well.
OK, so if I understand what you just told me, If I disable the pull in options, I can gain some more stability? Thanks
[timko]
03-27-2008, 04:53 AM
OK, so if I understand what you just told me, If I disable the pull in options, I can gain some more stability? Thanks
Yes. Also, if relaxing the PL to 7, 8 or more with disabled doesn't allow you to use other straps and dividers then list out the important bios settings here (like XtremeTiramisu has done here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2871820&postcount=845)) or take screenshots of it and upload them (like ericab has done here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2871184&postcount=842)) and then we can take a look at what might be going wrong :)
malik22
03-27-2008, 05:32 AM
Hi guys
Im about to get this board but have a question my memory is
4gb 4x1 of corsair twinx2 6400C4 will I have any issues with this board?I had a Asus P5E one month ago that shipped with like the third bios and two of my sticks would give constant errors in memtest so I was about to rma the ram when I found a person with the same board same ram and same issue his solution was to flash to the initial bios which I did and never got the erorrs again.Since the boards are similar wanted to make sure I would have the same issues.
Zucker2k
03-27-2008, 07:44 AM
Looks like Asus got pissed about all the Maximuses and P5Es transforming themselves into Rampages and back. I wonder how long it takes for latest Rampage bios? I popped in one of my L737Bs yesterday just to see how well the Rampage handles quads and I found MF 1004 bios still handled the quad better. So at this point, I'm gonna have to wait for another bios.
Brick_top
03-27-2008, 08:08 AM
Hi everyone, Yesterday I flashed my Asus p5e with the rampage formula bios but now when I boot I receive the message that it has detected an overheat in OPT1, if I go into the hardware monitor option in the bios I see some red numbers at 125ºC. Is there any way to flash back to my regular bios?
Brama
03-27-2008, 08:14 AM
Hi everyone, Yesterday I flashed my Asus p5e with the rampage formula bios but now when I boot I receive the message that it has detected an overheat in OPT1, if I go into the hardware monitor option in the bios I see some red numbers at 125ºC. Is there any way to flash back to my regular bios?
You can disable in BIOS the sensors OPT 1/2/3 and any hardware that is not present in P5E.
You can reprogram your P5E BIOS with same commands of AFUDOS, changing only the name of the BIOS image.
Brick_top
03-27-2008, 08:24 AM
You can disable in BIOS the sensors OPT 1/2/3 and any hardware that is not present in P5E.
You can reprogram your P5E BIOS with same commands of AFUDOS, changing only the name of the BIOS image.
You mean my board doesn't have any real overheat? its only that those sensors are reporting numbers for hardware that doesn't exist? I don't understand that second part about afudos, Its the first time I use it... sorry,
edit - I think I now understand, you mean I can use afudos to flash back to my original bios just as I flashed to the rampage bios? but can you tell me if there is any real overheat or not?
Brama
03-27-2008, 08:40 AM
You mean my board doesn't have any real overheat? its only that those sensors are reporting numbers for hardware that doesn't exist? I don't understand that second part about afudos, Its the first time I use it... sorry,
edit - I think I now understand, you mean I can use afudos to flash back to my original bios just as I flashed to the rampage bios? but can you tell me if there is any real overheat or not?
OPT 1/2/3 are Rampage otional temp sensors that don't exist at all in P5E.
You don' have any overheat in your rig.
I confirm that the procedure to revert to original BIOS is the same as you did to program Rampage BIOS in your P5E.
Only the name of the BIOS image has to be modified in the command string of AFUDOS.
Brama
03-27-2008, 08:56 AM
I'm just curious, cause I see only the score numbers but hear nothing about the real world Office or Adobe apps benifits.
:rofl:
I suggest to buy a MAC.
Brama
03-27-2008, 08:59 AM
Hi guys
Im about to get this board but have a question my memory is
4gb 4x1 of corsair twinx2 6400C4 will I have any issues with this board?I had a Asus P5E one month ago that shipped with like the third bios and two of my sticks would give constant errors in memtest so I was about to rma the ram when I found a person with the same board same ram and same issue his solution was to flash to the initial bios which I did and never got the erorrs again.Since the boards are similar wanted to make sure I would have the same issues.
I suggest to get latest memtest86+ and check again.
A lot of false errors were detected by a relative new version of memtest (without +).
iadstudio
03-27-2008, 09:10 AM
Anyone have results with the 1004 bios while using 8GB of ram?
I haven't pushed it much yet since I'm rebuilding my loop and a new case, but I'll put some numbers up as soon as I do.
hutkikz
03-27-2008, 09:54 AM
:rofl:
I suggest to buy a MAC.
First Post & noob oc'er
I have this memory and was having problems too. (post hang at "countmem",random errors in memtest 86+) My mobo came w\ bios 0602 and I worked my way up to 1004 and was about to try rampage bios when I saw Kup's post on 0505 being good for 8gb's mem, so I tried it last weekend and now everything works perfectly(passed 12hrs memtest86+)Thanks Kup
BTW new mem arrived today:rolleyes:
mazda_626
03-27-2008, 11:40 AM
Hi everyone, Yesterday I flashed my Asus p5e with the rampage formula bios but now when I boot I receive the message that it has detected an overheat in OPT1, if I go into the hardware monitor option in the bios I see some red numbers at 125ºC. Is there any way to flash back to my regular bios? the maximus formula also has three fan power ports that have the option to fit thermal sensors (still havent found any sensors that actually work), so it is perfectly safe to disable the opt1/opt2/opt3 sensors in the bios. It's becuase you dont even have the optional thermal sensor ports, so dont panic.
In regards to the RF0219 bios, i goofed. my previous post reported a lower overclock and certian settings wont work, so i flashed back to the MF0907 and found i still couldnt run 3.4Ghz stable.
I also found i just couldnt reach the previous settings i had before, i.e. tREF, Dimm clock fine delay, tWTR which all apear to be auto set by the bios. It didnt matter what setting or speeds i ran at.
edit: I've found tREF changes automatically with the ram divider so 1:1 isnt as stable for me but 5:8 is.
I'm now back to the RF0219 becuase i have now realised where i went wrong.
I remembered to reset the cmos after the flash, I reset the bios with F5 then restarted but where i think i went wrong is i booted into windows overclocked.
I am purely at stock settings (all on auto) and have o/c'd since the second reflash to RF0219 and now i am seeing the old settings. when i overclocked then went back to stock, i couldnt get the old settings.
so now i will slowly increase my settings over the next couple of days.
thought i'd share my experience, i'm use to being able to flash and set then reboot. it appears there are many options that this board does automatically behind the scenes. so the first successful boot into the OS must be at stock clocks
but i can also confirm, you can go back to the maximus formula bios with ease :)
me3850
03-27-2008, 01:10 PM
hi there i have one question:
i have asus maximus formula 1004 with G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ but when i try to set fsb higher of 266 cause error on goldmemory test with other memory not have this is problem...i have tried many setting fsb voltage 1.5 nb 1.6 trfc high 60 80...but after 40min the mem cause error... Any of you know how I can resolve? thanks very much
nick2crete
03-27-2008, 01:12 PM
Now find me a way to turn my P5e3 dLX into p5e3 premium
That would be nice for all P5E3 Dlx owners ...but we have already one unsuccessful attempt , http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2866674&postcount=777
iadstudio
03-27-2008, 01:21 PM
hi there i have one question:
i have asus maximus formula 1004 with G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ but when i try to set fsb higher of 266 cause error on goldmemory test with other memory not have this is problem...i have tried many setting fsb voltage 1.5 nb 1.6 trfc high 60 80...but after 40min the mem cause error... Any of you know how I can resolve? thanks very much
You'll need to post your bios settings.
Leeghoofd
03-27-2008, 01:32 PM
Prolly one bad stick mate... also do you keep the sticks at 1000mhz or do you let the bios do it ?
me3850
03-27-2008, 01:33 PM
q6600 vid 1.3125
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 438
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1052
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto
CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45 or i have try 1.6 nothing
DRAM Voltage : 2.02
FSB Termination Voltage : auto (1.52)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.5
Loadline Calibration : enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : enable
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
have try pdf setting of gskill 333 fsb 266 strap and 2.0v error but i try 266 fsb defalut (q6600) and ram at 1030~ work good no error or try 250fsb and 1000mhz ram work good when try 333 strap 266 ram 1002mhz error ect 400 400 error 333 333 error.... i try many software prime occt memtest and other but no error for 24h but with this software goldmemory after 40m have error... In fact I have several crashes in games and other unusual things
sorry for my bad english :p
Signal64
03-27-2008, 02:06 PM
Are the release notes for the different BIOS's available?
Didn't see anything on the ASUS Download page or on the FTP site.
Leeghoofd
03-27-2008, 02:11 PM
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 438
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 -- SET 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1052 -- run closer to 1000mhz or underclock
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto -- 55
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto -- Disable
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto -- Disable
Relax level 0
CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : auto -- SET 1.5 : this setting overvolts 2
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45 or i have try 1.6 nothing
DRAM Voltage : 2.02 -- Be carefull this is 2.12 in reality !!!
FSB Termination Voltage : auto (1.52)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.5
Loadline Calibration : enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
me3850
03-27-2008, 03:07 PM
I tested separately identical error...
i have test this setting:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 876mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Transaction Booster : Disable
Relax level 0
CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45 or i have try 1.6 nothing
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
"IDENTICAL ERROR"
i have test this setting:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 266
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1050mhz~
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Transaction Booster : Disable
Relax level 0
CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45 or i have try 1.6 nothing
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
"NO ERROR"
"The problem is when i set the fsb higher to 266"...
Any of you know how I can resolve? thanks very much
Brick_top
03-27-2008, 03:14 PM
thanks for your help, I have now disabled the sensors and the message is gone, for those to which this may happen and are ignorant to it like me, you have to disable all three sensors opt1, 2 and 3, for the warning to stop appearing, first I only disabled the sensors that were giving me the warning message but they kept giving it, I was only able to get rid of the message by disabling all three of them
Nuckin_Futs
03-27-2008, 03:26 PM
:rofl:
I suggest to buy a MAC.
Granted they may be the better solution for my media encoding. But I, like many, like to build piece by piece and overclock. But show me a list of ASUS or DFI overclocker mobos for MAC based Core 2's and I'll look into it.
So I guess you are trying to tell us that nobody with an Intel on PC based system can get good media workstations unless you max out RAM sub-timings?
loften
03-27-2008, 03:35 PM
maybe try set memory to auto to get the values they recomend then set them all there manually.. maybe try trans booster moderate or strong also..
loften
03-27-2008, 03:37 PM
put your mac brain on your asus/intel..then you can have bofff..
NapalmV5
03-27-2008, 06:02 PM
worked like a charm.. maximus formula se < rampage formula se!
thanks much!
icecpu
03-27-2008, 06:57 PM
Anyone has cold boot everytime you restart ?
me3850
03-27-2008, 07:51 PM
ok i find the problem is PL it's crazy only way to work at 400fsb(1600) is at disable 7 on bios is crazy poor very poor performance not good memory... :(
:mad:
loften
03-27-2008, 08:43 PM
?? can you give me a better idea of what that means ?? QUOTE=me3850;2874207]ok i find the problem is PL it's crazy only way to work at 400fsb(1600) is at disable 7 on bios is crazy poor very poor performance not good memory... :(
:mad:[/QUOTE]
newls1
03-27-2008, 10:48 PM
I just dont understand the way to revert back to the MF1004 BIOS if I need to? Can someone please explain this out? Thanks a million
mazda_626
03-27-2008, 11:33 PM
I just dont understand the way to revert back to the MF1004 BIOS if I need to? Can someone please explain this out? Thanks a million
simple, you flashed with the rf0219 right? now you just flash back to mf1004
for instance, you would've downloaded the AFU236U program, put it onto a bootable usb disk,alnog with the .rom file (RF2019.ROM) and rebooted into the usb drive.
then you would have typed.
C:\>AFU236U /IRF0219.ROM /PBNC /N
Rampage installed.
to revert back, put the .rom file MF1004.rom onto the usb drive and do the same as above
C:\>AFU236U /IMF1004.rom /PBNC /N
maximus is now installed
personally, the rampage bios is not for me, i just cant reach my previous 3.4G without raising the CPU voltage. i have tried every setting i can and many combinations of settings.
I still think it's my ram combo, never mind :)
wilson
03-27-2008, 11:51 PM
Hi guys can anyone help me??
I have just built my sytem up and everything is ok apart from when i turn everything off and then try to boot up again the next morning. It seems to start up with fans at 100% but then nothing else no beep and no boot up screen. Now i can press the cmos button and then it will boot fine but why is it not booting when its been fully powered down . I can restart from windows fine and can have the system of for 10 mins or so it it boots fine. It just seems to be when its left for a few hours or so??
I am using bios 0907 and think it could be a bios setting unless somebody has had the same problem.
Cheers paul
PS im using the same parts as in my sig
eSp!s0
03-28-2008, 02:35 AM
2x2GB G.Skill PC2-8500 GBPK (+ E6750):
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Auto]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8]
FSB Frequency [450]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [1080MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Auto]
5-5-5-15-...-52-...
DRAM Static Read Control [Auto]
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]
Transaction Booster [Disabled]
Boost Level [0]
Performancelevel 7
CPU Voltage [1.33750]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.39v]
DRAM Voltage [1.96v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.20v]
South Bridge Voltage [1.050]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]
http://www.abload.de/thumb/cachemem84f.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=cachemem84f.png)
http://www.abload.de/thumb/unbenanntnqu.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=unbenanntnqu.png)
Dostoyevsky77
03-28-2008, 02:52 AM
Does anyone know why the ASUS FTP links are now password-protected?
Annoying...
NapalmV5
03-28-2008, 03:00 AM
so ive tested the rampage bios on the e6750 which only ran 400x8 fully stable on the maxi bios @ auto settings.. vcore/fsb adjusted
no matter the voltages anything above 400, unstable/flaky as hell
now on the rampage bios still @ auto settings.. vcore/fsb adjusted.. the e6750 runs fully stable @ 475x8
before, the temps.. especially the nb temp was hotter than the sun to the touch.. now cold as ice.. wtf?!? 20-30 degrees cooler what the bios shows
cant believe this is the same mobo
looks like ill be having fun testing the wolfies now
again mucho thanks! appreciated!
loften
03-28-2008, 04:53 AM
ah i see.. that one works for you.. i had so many issues on mine with 333 and 333 strap, 4x1 crucial pc8500 (1066) with all the other settings close to yours just trying to get a stable stock clock with e6850 on air. it was running ok but it would error out every once in a while after a couple hours of playing a game. i went to the 400 strap now at 3.2 and tried ai moderate and it seams to be stable.. i thought for sure it was my memory but now i can run test on it for 8 hours or more and no errors where before it would only go for 10 min. before my first. i pulled my hair out for a month wondering if it was somthing with bios bad memory or somthing other. now i can begin to play with clocks a little more. getting water first though..
2x2GB G.Skill PC2-8500 GBPK (+ E6750):
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Auto]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8]
FSB Frequency [450]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [1080MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Auto]
5-5-5-15-...-52-...
DRAM Static Read Control [Auto]
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]
Transaction Booster [Disabled]
Boost Level [0]
Performancelevel 7
CPU Voltage [1.33750]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.39v]
DRAM Voltage [1.96v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.20v]
South Bridge Voltage [1.050]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]
http://www.abload.de/thumb/cachemem84f.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=cachemem84f.png)
http://www.abload.de/thumb/unbenanntnqu.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=unbenanntnqu.png)
me3850
03-28-2008, 05:45 AM
@eSp!s0
Try goldmemory with THOROUGH test for 1hrs pls
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i have test this setting:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 876mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Transaction Booster : Disable
Relax level 0-7 = identical error
CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45 or i have try 1.6 nothing
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB VTT 1.47 V or 1.52 V
"ERROR"
i have test this setting:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 266
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1050mhz~
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Transaction Booster : Disable
Relax level 0
CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45 or i have try 1.6 nothing
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB VTT 1.47 V or 1.52 V
"NO ERROR"
"The problem is when i set the fsb higher to 266"...
Any of you know how I can resolve? thanks very much
Droperidolum
03-28-2008, 08:11 AM
I found points to measure CPU PLL voltage and SB voltage. Here are some points:
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7081/pointsbk1.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pointsbk1.jpg)
Results with LoadLine Calibration Disabled:
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3889/01pz4.th.png (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01pz4.png)
wilson
03-28-2008, 09:13 AM
In a update to my question if i pull the power cord out then plug it back in it will boot up as normal?? any ideas any1...
xwoodoo
03-28-2008, 12:08 PM
nvm..
chawks2
03-28-2008, 12:31 PM
now on the rampage bios still @ auto settings.. vcore/fsb adjusted.. the e6750 runs fully stable @ 475x8
Now that's a success story. :up:
Still contemplating grabbing one of these mobos open box. Does anyone have any extra MF's lying around, am very interested for a reasonable price.
My E8400 is sitting @ 450x9 w/8Gz on my IP35 Pro, is it worth it to tear apart my whole setup for this most wonderful mod?:shrug:
Leeghoofd
03-28-2008, 12:38 PM
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7X later on 8X
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 900
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : Disabled (relax level 0)
CPU Voltage : 1?45- 1.55
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5 Board overvolts here !!! real 1.6 then
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.0 Boars overvolts here so real is 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
Try First 7 multi to see if the boards settings are okay then go flatout with 8 multi... I still had issues with 4:5 divider so eg 400FSB with 1000Mhz ram...
Flash to 1004 bios works pretty nicely with my Q6600...
I never go down on th subtimings as really Intel rigs don't get much boos tout of all these timings.. I prefer higher FSB and ram speed... try ya rams first at 900 then go up... but 4 dimms at high speed might require pretty beefy NB voltages... make sure that sucker is well cooled !!!
wilson
03-28-2008, 12:56 PM
Please can someone post the 0219 bios pls as i cant get it.
Thanks Paul
http://rapidshare.com/files/99518261/Rampage_Formula_219.zip
icecpu
03-28-2008, 02:21 PM
This is my final 24/7 stable setting
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n174/mycotrang/MaximusRampageOC.jpg
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 470
PCIE Frequency : 110
DRAM Frequency : DDR2-1129
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control : Manual
Cas# Latency : 5
Ras# to Cas# Delay : 5
Ras# Pre Time : 5
Ras# Act Time : 15
Sub-Timing [3-35-6-3] [8-3-5-4-6-4-6] [14-5-1-5-5]
DRAM Stactic Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 07
Pull-In of CHA : (all Disabled)
CPU Voltage : 1.437
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference : 0.63x
NB GTL Voltage Reference : 0.67x
DRAM Controller Voltage REF : DDR2_REF
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF : Auto
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF : Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto
wilson
03-28-2008, 02:25 PM
Cheers Yobi :up:
Only problem now is i get a "cant open .rom"
What am i doing wrong...
I type AFU236U/IRF0219.rom/pbnc/n and i get that error message??
and also AFUDOS/IRF0219.rom/pbnc/n and still the same.
Any ideas..
ZenEffect
03-28-2008, 02:27 PM
Cheers Yobi :up:
Only problem now is i get a "cant open .rom"
What am i doing wrong...
I type AFU236U/IRF0219.rom/pbnc/n and i get that error message??
and also AFUDOS/IRF0219.rom/pbnc/n and still the same.
Any ideas..
use spaces
afudos /iRF0219.rom /pbnc /n
[timko]
03-28-2008, 02:30 PM
I found points to measure CPU PLL voltage and SB voltage. Here are some points:
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7081/pointsbk1.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pointsbk1.jpg)
This should be added the first post. Every dedicated mobo thread should have one and and it's only taken 2 threads combined for almost 330 pages for the Maximus Formula to get one! :rofl:
Thanks again for your work Droperidolum :up:
Grnfinger
03-28-2008, 02:39 PM
Both Maximus threads are muddy now, part2 was for INFORMATION only, not chatting and bench scores ect. Instead ppl chose to double post.
To bad cause alot of information is burried now and I dont blame Kup for not updating the main page
Grnfinger
03-28-2008, 02:48 PM
This is my final 24/7 stable setting
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n174/mycotrang/MaximusRampageOC.jpg
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 470
PCIE Frequency : 110
DRAM Frequency : DDR2-1129
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control : Manual
Cas# Latency : 5
Ras# to Cas# Delay : 5
Ras# Pre Time : 5
Ras# Act Time : 15
Sub-Timing [3-35-6-3] [8-3-5-4-6-4-6] [14-5-1-5-5]
DRAM Stactic Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 07
Pull-In of CHA : (all Disabled)
CPU Voltage : 1.437
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference : 0.63x
NB GTL Voltage Reference : 0.67x
DRAM Controller Voltage REF : DDR2_REF
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF : Auto
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF : Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto
Nice clock on the 8400:up:
Have you tried to lower the NB volts at all?
I run 478x9 and my NB only requires 1.49
The white paper from Intel states that FSBT should not exceed 1.40, I would try to lower that if possible
TouGe
03-28-2008, 03:23 PM
Anyone has cold boot everytime you restart ?
Yup:down:
I get a cold boot whenever I start up my computer for the first time or if I turn it on after leaving it off for more than a couple of minutes, no issues w/ restarts. This only occurs when I OC, otherwise it boots just fine. I've experienced this ever since I installed my QX9650 and it has happened using 1004 BIOS as well.
My OC is 8 hours prime stable so I don't know what the problem might be.
On a side note I wanted to thank Stilt for bringing this information forward and all those who contributed to this thread. I am very happy so far with the Rampage BIOS.
Nuckin_Futs
03-28-2008, 03:45 PM
O.K., Since this forum turned more to RAM OC on the Formula, who has good RAM performance results to share on OCZ PC-8500 Titanium's compared to Crucial Ballistics Tracers or Gold series?
wilson
03-28-2008, 04:09 PM
Cheers Zen :up:
And Touge i think i have the same problem as it will reboot and start from windows but leave for 10 mins or so and it just starts the fans up at 100% then nothing. The only way to sort it is to clear the cmos or unplug the power cord then plug it back in and it boots fine again ??
;2876137']This should be added the first post. Every dedicated mobo thread should have one and and it's only taken 2 threads combined for almost 330 pages for the Maximus Formula to get one! :rofl:
Thanks again for your work Droperidolum :up:
I'll add it to the first post in a bit. Been busy Admin'ing my own forum recently. Sorry for the lack of support on my part, guys!
Both Maximus threads are muddy now, part2 was for INFORMATION only, not chatting and bench scores ect. Instead ppl chose to double post.
To bad cause alot of information is burried now and I dont blame Kup for not updating the main page
I try to do what I can but as you said, there is so much lost in the pages and pages of questions that could have been answered just by reading the first post.
I'll try to dedicate some time to updating the first post, but could do with some help if anyone would like to link me to specific posts with good reasoning?
icecpu
03-28-2008, 04:17 PM
Thanks Grnfinger,
I didn't try to lower the NB voltage
I couldn't lower the FSBT , which cause OCCT error "code 1". Actually I'm running FSBT at v1.5
EDIT
You're right, I'm lowering the FSBT, it was error because of low NB voltage.
eSp!s0
03-28-2008, 06:26 PM
ah i see.. that one works for you.. i had so many issues on mine with 333 and 333 strap, 4x1 crucial pc8500 (1066) with all the other settings close to yours just trying to get a stable stock clock with e6850 on air. it was running ok but it would error out every once in a while after a couple hours of playing a game. i went to the 400 strap now at 3.2 and tried ai moderate and it seams to be stable.. i thought for sure it was my memory but now i can run test on it for 8 hours or more and no errors where before it would only go for 10 min. before my first. i pulled my hair out for a month wondering if it was somthing with bios bad memory or somthing other. now i can begin to play with clocks a little more. getting water first though..
Happy OCing :up:
@eSp!s0
Try goldmemory with THOROUGH test for 1hrs pls
_______________________
i have test this setting:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 876mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Transaction Booster : Disable
Relax level 0-7 = identical error
CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45 or i have try 1.6 nothing
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB VTT 1.47 V or 1.52 V
"ERROR"
i have test this setting:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 266
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1050mhz~
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Transaction Booster : Disable
Relax level 0
CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45 or i have try 1.6 nothing
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB VTT 1.47 V or 1.52 V
"NO ERROR"
"The problem is when i set the fsb higher to 266"...
Any of you know how I can resolve? thanks very much
I tested 1 full pass Memtest 2.01 (~25minutes) and over 8hours OCCT Ram. Also I played BF2 and CSS a long time, everything without any errors/problems. That`s enough for me ;)
me3850
03-28-2008, 07:36 PM
Happy OCing :up:
I tested 1 full pass Memtest 2.01 (~25minutes) and over 8hours OCCT Ram. Also I played BF2 and CSS a long time, everything without any errors/problems. That`s enough for me ;)
yes ok but when you have time try 1hrs~ of goldmemory very best for me over all software... ;)
Dostoyevsky77
03-28-2008, 07:49 PM
I have infiltrated:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture-15.jpg
Dostoyevsky77
03-28-2008, 08:02 PM
Hey, I'm a late adapter. Super kudos for this, thanks! Am I running the latest BIOS?
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture-15.jpg
AFU236U /n parameter does not work in my vanilla P5E bios 0605, responded ROMID is different, both RF rom 0207 & 0219 has been tried, should I down flash to older P5E bios? which version? thank you.
TouGe
03-29-2008, 12:12 AM
And Touge i think i have the same problem as it will reboot and start from windows but leave for 10 mins or so and it just starts the fans up at 100% then nothing. The only way to sort it is to clear the cmos or unplug the power cord then plug it back in and it boots fine again ??
Mine will start up and cycle through the BIOS but before it gets to checking the VRAM I am asked to either enter the BIOS or Load Defaults. If I enter the BIOS and then exit the computer boots fine and I have no other issues. Again, this never occurred while running my x6800 OC'd @ 3.6GHz or while running my QX9650 stock, just whenever I OC my QX9650 and it doesn't matter how small the OC.
Spyrus
03-29-2008, 03:14 AM
@me3850 I have the same settings in bios but latency with Rampage Bios
is 54.3ns and yours is 53.3ns
Which bios is that?
NVM E8400 vs E6750 latency...
M-XXXX
03-29-2008, 03:43 AM
I have some big troubles now.
When I turn on the computer fans spins, but there is no beep, and afcourse no picture. Led light are on (all led-s (on NB all 3, next to ram all 3 too,...) but they is no LED light for CPU. Ive meisured voltage and it is 1.26V (OK). LCD poster is showing CPU init (only this and nothink else). Ive tried with no ram and with different procesor, and no good. Do you have any idea? Or is MB dead?
Warboy
03-29-2008, 04:05 AM
I have some big troubles now.
When I turn on the computer fans spins, but there is no beep, and afcourse no picture. Led light are on (all led-s (on NB all 3, next to ram all 3 too,...) but they is no LED light for CPU. Ive meisured voltage and it is 1.26V (OK). LCD poster is showing CPU init (only this and nothink else). Ive tried with no ram and with different procesor, and no good. Do you have any idea? Or is MB dead?
Pull Cord, Pull all ram expect one stick,and try again in 10mins. Do a Full ClearCMOS too.
HellasVagabond
03-29-2008, 04:20 AM
Guys im kinda confused....Most people have CPU PLL at 1.5 but others say it should be in the 1.58-1.60 area....Does it affect the CPU temp in any way ?
M-XXXX
03-29-2008, 04:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by M-XXXX
I have some big troubles now.
When I turn on the computer fans spins, but there is no beep, and afcourse no picture. Led light are on (all led-s (on NB all 3, next to ram all 3 too,...) but they is no LED light for CPU. Ive meisured voltage and it is 1.26V (OK). LCD poster is showing CPU init (only this and nothink else). Ive tried with no ram and with different procesor, and no good. Do you have any idea? Or is MB dead?
Pull Cord, Pull all ram expect one stick,and try again in 10mins. Do a Full ClearCMOS too.
Tried this already. Tried with no ram, and still doesnt beep. Ive unpluged from electricity for 10min, and it didnt helped either:mad: I have cleared CMOS too, even removed battery..
Grnfinger
03-29-2008, 04:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by M-XXXX
I have some big troubles now.
Tried this already. Tried with no ram, and still doesnt beep. Ive unpluged from electricity for 10min, and it didnt helped either:mad: I have cleared CMOS too, even removed battery..
pull the chip for a few mins with power removed ofcourse
Grnfinger
03-29-2008, 05:00 AM
Hey, I'm a late adapter. Super kudos for this, thanks! Am I running the latest BIOS?
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture-15.jpg
no 219 is latest bios so far
[timko]
03-29-2008, 05:54 AM
AFU236U /n parameter does not work in my vanilla P5E bios 0605, responded ROMID is different, both RF rom 0207 & 0219 has been tried, should I down flash to older P5E bios? which version? thank you.
Did you use all of these switches as well? --> /pbnc /n
wilson
03-29-2008, 06:10 AM
Cheers fellas its working great .:D
;2877537']Did you use all of these switches as well? --> /pbnc /n
Yes, tried "/pbnc /n" and "/n", both have ROMID error. :confused:
Yes, tried "/pbnc /n" and "/n", both have ROMID error. :confused:
Are you actually using the ES version?
wilson
03-29-2008, 06:47 AM
Everest 4.50 gives you a few more readings in the sensor sections.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg211/wils07/everest-1.jpg
eSp!s0
03-29-2008, 06:56 AM
yes ok but when you have time try 1hrs~ of goldmemory very best for me over all software... ;)
I forgot to say that I also did Prime Blend-Test over night. Together with Memtest2.01 (today 2passes, ~50minutes), OCCT Ram for over 8hours and gaming 2hours it`s enough for me to say system is stable.
I don`t need any other programs for myself to feel that system is stable ;)
I tested 515x7 for OC yesterday and I also made this little comparison to 450x8.
All tested with:
XP32-Bit, G.Skill 2x2GB 8500 (GBPK) = 3328MB Windows, E6750 @ TRU120E, Bios 1004, Zotac 8800GTS 512 AMP! 750/1878/1050, Driver 174.74 (AM3+3DM06 perhaps later)
450x8=3600, 333Strap, 5:6, 1080Ram PL7:
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Auto]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8]
FSB Frequency [450]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [1080MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Auto]
5-5-5-15-...-52-...
DRAM Static Read Control [Auto]
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]
Transaction Booster [Disabled]
Boost Level [0]
Performancelevel 7
CPU Voltage [1.35000]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.39v]
DRAM Voltage [1.96v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.20v]
South Bridge Voltage [1.050]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]
http://www.abload.de/thumb/cachemem84f.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=cachemem84f.png)
Read: 9580MB/s Write: 8202MB/s Copy: 9110MB/s Latency: 53.3ns
515x7=3605, 333Strap, 1:1, 1030Ram PL9:
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [7]
FSB Frequency [515]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [1030MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Auto]
5-5-5-15-...-52-...
DRAM Static Read Control [Auto]
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]
Transaction Booster [Disabled]
Boost Level [1]
Performancelevel 9
CPU Voltage [1.35000]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.39v]
DRAM Voltage [1.96v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.20v]
South Bridge Voltage [1.050]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]
http://www.abload.de/thumb/cachemem2s6t.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=cachemem2s6t.png)
Read: 9673MB/s Write: 9318MB/s Copy: 9992MB/s Latency: 52.6ns
Are you actually using the ES version?
Yes, I am using AFU236U.exe, and I have flashed to RF 219 successully :up: something surprised me.
The problem is AFU236U just won't work in PC-DOS of Ghost 2003 bootable rescue disk which I created years ago. By changing to genuine MS-DOS from Win98, bingo! :clap:
[timko] and kup, thanks for your reply.
p2501
03-29-2008, 07:31 AM
Ok now, I joined the Maximus Rampage Club as of now. I have set it to the same values as with the Maximus 0505 BIOS and so far there is no performance gain or hit. So far so good. I wonder if I get to run the box stable now, because with all Maximus BIOSes I've had random reboots (for example running 3 days on dual FAH SMP and then reboot) on settings that would do Prime and OCCT Ram all day and night. Did anyone experience something similar and if so, how did you get rid of this? This is really starting to bother me. :shakes:
Spyrus
03-29-2008, 07:34 AM
Note: lowering cpu mhz lowers also everest latency/memory bandwidth.
Stanley Pain
03-29-2008, 07:37 AM
I think my Corsair Dominators are dying a slow death on me :(. Starting to get DET RAM errors when running under stock speeds, and even some IRQL_LESS_THAN bluescreens.
Might have to fill out and RMA. Here's hoping I can get the RAM shipped to me first.
M-XXXX
03-29-2008, 07:40 AM
pull the chip for a few mins with power removed ofcourse
Try this and doesn't help. Any more ideas?
Spyrus
03-29-2008, 07:45 AM
According to my table you are indeed at PL = 9
with strap 333@CAS5@1:1@Disabled/Level 1
but it is strange that you have better bandwidth/latency,
i did not expect that since you are on the same strap,lower memory mhz.
PL=8 is possible there with more vmch.
Grnfinger
03-29-2008, 07:56 AM
test the dimms at stock speed using memtest if you have not done it yet, this board gives alot of det dram hangs, irq error is more than likely NB volts
eSp!s0
03-29-2008, 07:58 AM
According to my table you are indeed at PL = 9
with strap 333@CAS5@1:1@Disabled/Level 1
but it is strange that you have better bandwidth/latency,
i did not expect that since you are on the same strap,lower memory mhz.
PL=8 is possible there with more vmch.
Yes, I will test on but I am at 1,39VNB and don`t want to go much higher because of passiv aircooling NB with stockcoolers from the board(non-SE).
515x7 1030ram is also ~30points better in 3DM06 but ~3000points worse in AM3 than 450x8 1080ram.
Big problem is, that 515x8 1030 Relax0 isn`t booting, but 450x8 1080Relax0 is stable!?
fordf250
03-29-2008, 08:14 AM
Put a big fan on the nb and ram, 120mm. I got to 540fsb with the non-se with stock heatsink and 1.7Vnb with the nb temp still below 40C.
Dostoyevsky77
03-29-2008, 08:24 AM
Everest 4.50 gives you a few more readings in the sensor sections.
Oh, dude! That's so cool! The first thing I noticed was loss of NB/SB temps. Is the latest version posted on the Everest forum? It's so hard to find their beta builds. I'd appreciate a linky.
Grnfinger, thanks a lot for pointing me in the direction of 0219. It took a while to find it, but I'm straight now.
Has anyone been able to tighten any of the FSB channel phases? I can POST with channel 2 in, but no OS. Any of the others give me no POST.
So far, I've squeezed some modest gains out:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture-17.jpg
p2501
03-29-2008, 08:25 AM
I asked already in the Maximus Rampage Mod thread, but since this problem might be connected to the board itself I figured i might ask in here too.
Is or was anyone experiencing random reboots after several days running with settings that are at least 15 hours Prime and 8 hours OCCT RAM stable? At least I am and I'm wondering how to solve this..
eSp!s0
03-29-2008, 08:27 AM
There is no more space in my case for a normal fan 80-120mm. Perhaps I will order Antec Spot Cool in future.
Here is where I am. Over night it passed Prime Custom Test "In-Place-FFTs" for over 10h and 2 passes Memtest without errors. Now I am testing Prime Blend Test and if it will be stable, I will try 533x7, but for the beginning:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se515x71030rampr3xv.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se515x71030rampr3xv.png)
Grnfinger
03-29-2008, 09:56 AM
Oh, dude! That's so cool! The first thing I noticed was loss of NB/SB temps. Is the latest version posted on the Everest forum? It's so hard to find their beta builds. I'd appreciate a linky.
Grnfinger, thanks a lot for pointing me in the direction of 0219. It took a while to find it, but I'm straight now.
Has anyone been able to tighten any of the FSB channel phases? I can POST with channel 2 in, but no OS. Any of the others give me no POST.
So far, I've squeezed some modest gains out:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture-17.jpg
Have you tried running PL-8 and all pull-ins enabled?
It should reduce latency and give you better bandwidth
Grnfinger
03-29-2008, 11:27 AM
Has anyone noticed that the chipset drivers for the Maximus Formula and the Rampage are the same
8.3.0.1013
DerekT
03-29-2008, 12:16 PM
Has anyone noticed that the chipset drivers for the Maximus Formula and the Rampage are the same
8.3.0.1013
Has anyone noticed that the X48 is just a higher binned result of the X38 and as such, the chipset is the same product with a higher stabiliy testing algorithm. :rofl: :ROTF:
Actually, for Intel to use such a nomenclature proves their disregard for Integer version vs Decimal version standards. Just as Nvidia has also done with their 680i --> 780i --> 790i
Go figure :shrug:
Grnfinger
03-29-2008, 12:21 PM
yes thank you we are well aware of this old news
Dostoyevsky77
03-29-2008, 12:23 PM
Have you tried running PL-8 and all pull-ins enabled?
It should reduce latency and give you better bandwidth
About the same for me, actually. Thanks for the tip. And thanks for helping me with that other thing. ;)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture-18.jpg
Spyrus
03-29-2008, 01:20 PM
Yes, I will test on but I am at 1,39VNB and don`t want to go much higher because of passiv aircooling NB with stockcoolers from the board(non-SE).
515x7 1030ram is also ~30points better in 3DM06 but ~3000points worse in AM3 than 450x8 1080ram.
Big problem is, that 515x8 1030 Relax0 isn`t booting, but 450x8 1080Relax0 is stable!?
Yes because with high fsb you are overclocking mch although keeping PL the same. There are limits on this with PL+1 you can put less mch and keep pushing
eSp!s0
03-29-2008, 01:55 PM
How I put less mch when OCing FSB? Or do you mean to lower TB Relax level?
I bet, english people would directly understand you ;)
wilson
03-29-2008, 02:14 PM
It seems that i and some others are getting the problem of fans spinning but no beep or post screen. My lcd poster does not light up or say anything and i have tried bios 0907 1004 and the rampage bios and still the same problem. After doing the cmos clear and battery removal for 20 min i still get it. The only way to boot up normal is to remove the power lead and plug it back in and it will boot fine and allow me to use windows and also reboot from windows and back. But when powered of for 20 mins or so the fans spinning and no beep or post screen is back......:mad:
DO I NEED TO RMA THIS MOBO!!!!!!!!
All parts worked fine in my P5K and i have removed ram and tried another cpu and checked all my leads in the case.
Ive just looked on the rampage formula forum at asus and peolpe are getting the same problem so it just shows that its the same mobo as the maximus ...
ZenEffect
03-29-2008, 03:37 PM
yes thank you we are well aware of this old news
:rofl:
jdrom
03-29-2008, 06:56 PM
Just flashed my Maximus Formula from BIOS 1004 to the Rampage Formula 0219. No problems to report, flash went fine just like any other flash.
Thanks to all the guys who helped track down that ES of AFUDOS.
Was a name ever decided on?
DerekT
03-29-2008, 07:56 PM
Has anyone noticed that the chipset drivers for the Maximus Formula and the Rampage are the same
yes thank you we are well aware of this old news
Then why did you report it? :rofl: :ROTF: Of course the chipset drivers are identical. The chipset is the same. :shrug:
Sources
03-29-2008, 08:06 PM
I JUST RAMPAGED !!!
so far so good.
Sources
03-29-2008, 08:11 PM
It seems that i and some others are getting the problem of fans spinning but no beep or post screen. My lcd poster does not light up or say anything and i have tried bios 0907 1004 and the rampage bios and still the same problem. After doing the cmos clear and battery removal for 20 min i still get it. The only way to boot up normal is to remove the power lead and plug it back in and it will boot fine and allow me to use windows and also reboot from windows and back. But when powered of for 20 mins or so the fans spinning and no beep or post screen is back......:mad:
DO I NEED TO RMA THIS MOBO!!!!!!!!
All parts worked fine in my P5K and i have removed ram and tried another cpu and checked all my leads in the case.
Ive just looked on the rampage formula forum at asus and peolpe are getting the same problem so it just shows that its the same mobo as the maximus ...
Try running the PC for a bit without the Power LED connected and then shut it down for over 20 minutes and see if it will power on. Make sure you dont have the Power LED plug on backwards either.
ElEctric_EyE
03-30-2008, 04:22 AM
Is anyone aware that one of Asus's ftp is still unlocked?
Maccara
03-30-2008, 05:09 AM
Is anyone aware that one of Asus's ftp is still unlocked?This one works fine ftp://ftp.asus.com/
Grnfinger
03-30-2008, 05:58 AM
Then why did you report it? :rofl: :ROTF: Of course the chipset drivers are identical. The chipset is the same. :shrug:
you would think they would have updated the chipset drivers for x48 not leave it the same , if there trying to market the board as something different then why have the exact same drivers?
chawks2
03-30-2008, 07:29 AM
Is the SE version of the MF required for this mod? Thanks.
Grnfinger
03-30-2008, 07:34 AM
no, both Maximus boards and a few P5's will flash
Stanley Pain
03-30-2008, 07:34 AM
Is the SE version of the MF required for this mod? Thanks.
Nope not at all. If you read the thread you'd see that P5E boards can also be modded with this bios.
Ric2L
03-30-2008, 07:39 AM
finally got a stable board, had to rma first one, now i,m looking to o/c. any one have a good stable set up for a 3GHz o/c. this will be my first attempt at o/cing, so not really sure where to start.
i'm running a Q6600 G0, with mushkin 996587 pc6400 ram @ 5 4 4 12, air cooled.
chawks2
03-30-2008, 07:50 AM
Nope not at all. If you read the thread you'd see that P5E boards can also be modded with this bios.
I saw the P5E, but I noticed there are two different versions of the MF. Does the SE have something the RTM MF does not? And by your response, I'm making the assumption the RTM works just the same.
EDIT
Appears the only difference b/w SE & RTM is compatibility with ECC/unbuffered DIMMS. Joining the club.:up:
Dostoyevsky77
03-30-2008, 10:50 AM
No, the SE has a waterblock for the NB. Read more here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=168119
jdrom
03-30-2008, 10:58 AM
Is anybody running 4x1GB RAM?
I ran into an issue with the newer bioses (MF1004 and RF0219). I need a ton of NB voltage to get it to POST and boot Windows, around 1.72V, with all the timings and other settings on auto. If I try to change any timings, then it stops posting again, so I'd assume it needs even more voltage on the NB.
Going back to the MF0907 BIOS solves it, and I can boot fine with all auto settings. However, I have a X3350 coming this week, so I need a newer BIOS which has proper support of the CPU.
Any ideas?
Expat GriZ
03-30-2008, 11:04 AM
Wow!! What a weekend!! Kids on TILT, Visiting Outlaws that don't know when it is time to go home, bathtub hot water tap falling off, I finally got to do some playing with the rig in the wee hours of this morning only to lose an hour to Daylight Saving Time!!! :eek: Anyway here is where I am now, any suggestions, tips, volts, etc. would be greatly appreciated. I managed to do a quick 1 Hr. OCCT and was stable.
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1203
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual
CPU Voltage : 1.40625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.22
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Auto
Performance Level 5, all Pull-ins Disabled
Grnfinger
03-30-2008, 11:13 AM
new 24/7 settings
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/stable_4400.jpg
Grnfinger
03-30-2008, 11:18 AM
Is anybody running 4x1GB RAM?
I ran into an issue with the newer bioses (MF1004 and RF0219). I need a ton of NB voltage to get it to POST and boot Windows, around 1.72V, with all the timings and other settings on auto. If I try to change any timings, then it stops posting again, so I'd assume it needs even more voltage on the NB.
Going back to the MF0907 BIOS solves it, and I can boot fine with all auto settings. However, I have a X3350 coming this week, so I need a newer BIOS which has proper support of the CPU.
Any ideas?
please fill out the bios template on the main page.
need some info b4 suggestions can be made
wilson
03-30-2008, 11:30 AM
Try running the PC for a bit without the Power LED connected and then shut it down for over 20 minutes and see if it will power on. Make sure you dont have the Power LED plug on backwards either.
Still no joy even with all the leads out and just using the boards power buttons. I guess im gonna try a new psu as it seems to work after i pull the lead out of it then put it back as if its reset something in the psu. And does anybody know if i could get a refund for my formula from ocuk as i have only had it for 5 days and i may as well just get a rampage or will they make me take another formula.
Cheers Paul
this is the best bios I've tried so far
I managed to reach 4ghz!
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1151/bestscoretz2.jpg
giorgos th.
03-30-2008, 11:43 AM
just a quick try with 515fsb - PL7...
seems that with RF bios my mem is up a bit...about 20mhz..
Grnfinger
03-30-2008, 12:23 PM
just a quick try with 515fsb - PL7...
seems that with RF bios my mem is up a bit...about 20mhz..
:banana::banana::banana::banana: ME!
is that ram running stable?
do you care to share your ram settings?
Would anyone have any theories as to why flashing the P5E3 Deluxe to the X48 P5E3 Premium worked for chance (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2858658), but not for andre X_X (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2866658&postcount=1285) ?
Could it have simply been the /pbnc command ?
:shrug:
giorgos th.
03-30-2008, 01:40 PM
:banana::banana::banana::banana: ME!
is that ram running stable?
do you care to share your ram settings?
havent actually tested it so high..thats with 2.28Vdimm from bios..
settings are 5-5-5-5-5-4-25-7-12-11-3-8-3-3-2T.
fordf250
03-30-2008, 02:26 PM
Still no joy even with all the leads out and just using the boards power buttons. I guess im gonna try a new psu as it seems to work after i pull the lead out of it then put it back as if its reset something in the psu. And does anybody know if i could get a refund for my formula from ocuk as i have only had it for 5 days and i may as well just get a rampage or will they make me take another formula.
Cheers Paul
Is that ram D9? I had lots of problems till I stopped using Micron in the max formula.
me3850
03-30-2008, 03:17 PM
Is that ram D9? I had lots of problems till I stopped using Micron in the max formula.
NOOOOOOOOOOO i have buy OCZ REAPER 8500 i hope work good :(
you have try GMH/GKX ??? i with old cell shock 9200 have a lot problem (GKX) i HOPE with this not problem I_I (GMH)