The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion [Archive] - Page 13

Grnfinger

03-19-2008, 03:46 AM

Ok time for some of my findings with this mod (BIOS 0219).

Logitech mouse in the outmost USB port nearest the LAN - the BIOS hangs at USBINIT - moving the mouse to another USB port and it boots perfectly.

FSB 452 gives 448MHz, 551 gives 551, and 553 553MHz

Multiplier reverts back to std. when loading an OC profile, making the board unable to boot. Must select the correct lower multiplier after loading the OC Profile. This is only an issue when running lower multiplier than default.

NB temps are reported lower, doubt it's because the NB actually runs cooler..

CPU temps seems to be reported more realistic than on the 0907 MF BIOS - which gave me silly low temps. (like 9 deg at boot)

The board still overvolts like crazy on FSBTT, NB, RAM, and others.

Performance:

This BIOS IS slightly faster than the latest MF bios. With the same settings both read, copy and write were higher, but not by much - the latency however is about 1ns better.

Overclocking:
I have not been able to overclock more than with the MF BIOS, but this is probably due to my cpu more than the board.

With the MF bios I was able to run 500MHz FSB, with the RF bios I'm not even able to boot at 480MHz - major drawback..

Now I'm able to use all memory dividers - with the MF there were some dividers that wouldn't boot at all.

Software:
Windows do not need a reinstall - however Everest no longer detects NB voltage, SB voltage and vcore is reported wrong. (1.1 when actual 1.50)

But all in all - I think this will be a very good board with more matured RF BIOS's.

Set Legacy USB Support to enable
Grab the latest Everest 4.20.1307 Its a beta but it works great with this board.
On the MF I wasnt able to boot past 505 FSB now with RF bios I can boot 530FSB. Once you get the settings tweak'd I'm sure you can clock higher

DualCore

03-19-2008, 04:19 AM

with this mod, can come back to original p5e bios after turn on a rampage ? simply question :)

Spyrus

03-19-2008, 04:32 AM

Yes you can change to P5E back (even to Maximus Formula is possible i think)

There is a known bug with usb glitch in X38.
I do not know how exactly appears.
Can someone describe it and tell if it has been fixed here?
The only that i can tell is that when leaving legacy support system hangs at
Windows when loading.

Sources

03-19-2008, 05:10 AM

what are the old and what are the new revisions at now ?

idk, it might be more than that. I fried 2 sets of the new revision on my board and the old Ballistix I had were just fine. My voltage never went over 2.1v

I think there is something with the new Ballistix revisions that lets this board kill them at even modest voltage.

Sources

03-19-2008, 05:29 AM

damn now i m worried if my warranty is voided, becasue i put the thermaltake memory heatpipes on mine... :confused:

I would just run your mem between 800-950, I dont even think you can notice the performance gain from 950+ on these DDR2's.

I notice the gains in timings way more than mhz. Drop it down to 900 and you can easily hit 4-4-4-10

and with only 2 sticks you can maybe hit 4-3-4-9 at 900mhz or less

iadstudio

03-19-2008, 05:33 AM

what are the old and what are the new revisions at now ?

idk. As soon as they changed from the 2 sided sticks to the single sided ones, I stopped using them. There are a few threads around here dedicated to Ballistix. You might find some info there.

TheOriginalTB

03-19-2008, 06:04 AM

Set Legacy USB Support to enable
Grab the latest Everest 4.20.1307 Its a beta but it works great with this board.
On the MF I wasnt able to boot past 505 FSB now with RF bios I can boot 530FSB. Once you get the settings tweak'd I'm sure you can clock higher

Legacy mode IS anebaled, also tried to disable it - same issue.

Can I use the new beta Everest on my current licence?

Tred to set everything as conservative as possible, but still no post at anything above 480 MHz FSB.

STaRGaZeR

03-19-2008, 06:23 AM

Many P5E users need to know what has been added in bios that is working and what is not.
1)Can you monitor more voltages?
2)Can you adjust more voltage options?
3)Have you all memory timings available of Rampage?
4)Are these settable?
5)Only second gigabit is excluded or and something else?

1) Yes, they are in the BIOS, but not in Everest and such.
1) Yes, the same as all of you with Maximus and Rampages.
3) Yes, the same as above. We literally have a Maximus now, minus volt LEDs, that second LAN and some temp sensors like NB and SB. They are all listed, but show weird results (-64ºC and such)
4) You can see it in the BIOS, but even if it is activated you will see anything in Windows (of course, it isn't really there :D)

Spyrus

03-19-2008, 06:51 AM

Ok clear, have to inform my P5E friends.

Mentaly

03-19-2008, 07:04 AM

Hi

Anybody here experienced this im not able to boot if I put memory in B channel the 2 on the right of the board, tried crucial ballistix 2 x 1024 44412, mushkin 2x2 gigbyte 6400 44412, and a pair og kingston ordinary brand, if I put both in A channel it boots fine but then no dual channel, its off course a Maximus formula board, just hangs at DET DRAM.

Kr Menty

DualCore

03-19-2008, 08:17 AM

wasup, and is necessary make a usb stick bootable with the hp tool :confused: or can format in windows and then only copy the afudos and the bios :shrug:

Dostoyevsky77

03-19-2008, 08:24 AM

Hey guys, heads up if you have DDR2 800 or 1066 Tracers 1GB sticks:

Link (http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/notice_x38_x48_ballistix_tracers-11830/index.html)

Crucial has removed X38 and X48 from the compatible chipsets list for these sticks. Call them up yourself and ask them. On 3/7/08 the Engineering department invalidated the compatibility spec. The lady I had on the phone said she saw a "note in the system" dated 3/7/08 stating this.

That's so weird. I've never had any problems with my Ballistix on this board. If anything, 4x1 has been a lot better on X38 than on 680i.

iadstudio

03-19-2008, 08:54 AM

mine actually ran great at 1130 2.15v, but one day I turnad it on and was getting errors. Happened twice. Always the new revision. idk if there was some kind of ripple or voltage anomaly, but the new revision sticks did not like my board.

Are your sticks single sided or double sided?

Durkadurka

03-19-2008, 08:59 AM

It seems my Ballistix have crapped out as well.
My system has been stable for weeks, running 24h Prime95 blend, 12 hour OCCT ram 12h, OCCT cpu 12h, to about 500% coverage on HCI memtest (ran 2 threads, 1500 MB on each).

Now, after I tried tightening the timings, and I went back to my stable OC Profile, it's not working anymore.
I get errors in HCI Memtest after like 10-20% and nothing I do with volts seem to have any influence at all.
The sticks have been running at 2.14v (BIOS) and 2.22v (Everest) all the time.

Oh well, I have ordered 2 sticks of 2GB Mushkin eXtreme Performance (XP2-8500).
Hopefully these will work better :)

Brama

03-19-2008, 09:22 AM

wasup, and is necessary make a usb stick bootable with the hp tool :confused: or can format in windows and then only copy the afudos and the bios :shrug:

You need to use the HP utility and the DOS image; after you put on afudos and the bios image and if you want you can create a .bat file that starts automatically afudos with the correct parameters.

You can not format from Windows a removable volume as a system one.

ZenEffect

03-19-2008, 10:20 AM

You need to use the HP utility and the DOS image; after you put on afudos and the bios image and if you want you can create a .bat file that starts automatically afudos with the correct parameters.

You can not format from Windows a removable volume as a system one.

yup, you can even create the bat in dos with the following commands

copy con afu.bat
afudos /iINSERTROMNAMEHERE /n /pbnc

ctrl + z

now you have a afu.bat! :up:

askimo

03-19-2008, 10:40 AM

yup, you can even create the bat in dos with the following commands

copy con afu.bat
afudos /iINSERTROMNAMEHERE /n /pbnc

ctrl + z

now you have a afu.bat! :up:

I was never able to boot from my USB stick; this force me to use it as a HD and boot from my Win98 CD to access it

ninogui

03-19-2008, 10:45 AM

Hi there guys,

I have to give this bios thing a run...

I´m using 0505 bios basically because with 0907 on experiments if i got the det ram thing and had to clr cmos or on/off (sometimes reset just didnt work!) only way to get it to boot again would be taking out the ram and reinserting old corsair twinx 6400. too much of an assle.
If i had sold those corsair rams i guess i would be screwed up!!

0505 is pretty much more stable, guess what?? for the rest is all together the same, even oc´ing.

My transcend axeram 1200 likes juice, so im feeding it 2.3vbios (2.4 everest) for 1173 (440x8 fsb strap 400) T 5-5-5-15, subtimmings all auto, static enabled, clocktwister strong, and enabled 0 (yes, ho hangs by mixing static read and performance enabled 0)

but i can only reach everest read 9.890 at 50.5 ns

Do you guys think i should give bios rampage 0219 a go?

somehow i feel i still need some more feedback days.

Hi

Anybody here experienced this im not able to boot if I put memory in B channel the 2 on the right of the board, tried crucial ballistix 2 x 1024 44412, mushkin 2x2 gigbyte 6400 44412, and a pair og kingston ordinary brand, if I put both in A channel it boots fine but then no dual channel, its off course a Maximus formula board, just hangs at DET DRAM.

Kr Menty

if its bios 0907 u prob have to swipe rams altogether and on blue slot 1 just to have a propper boot, then revert back to these ones

yup, you can even create the bat in dos with the following commands

copy con afu.bat
afudos /iINSERTROMNAMEHERE /n /pbnc

ctrl + z

now you have a afu.bat! :up:

I wonder how many people here will remember basic dos pre-year 85 ?

ahahahahah prob not too many. I grew on that, which makes me quite old lolololol

greets

ninogui

03-19-2008, 10:48 AM

I was never able to boot from my USB stick; this force me to use it as a HD and boot from my Win98 CD to access it

neither did i, probably have to use a partitioning ap to create a primary one on the pen then format with system? i wonder. ill try

Newms118

03-19-2008, 10:54 AM

guess i might be SOL also since i have the 1066 crucial ballistix tracers too. so for everyone that has these ram sticks, are the single sided or double sided no longer compatible. and are the single sided sticks the revision? talk about some BS these companies cant get their compatibilities straightened out BEFORE they release their products.

in the mean time my sticks seem to still work. im goin to kick them down to 800 with a low voltage and possible tighten the timings to compensate for this disaster

tc17

03-19-2008, 11:45 AM

I wouldn't be surprised to see some lawsuit at some point, either at Asus or the memory chip makers. This is not acceptable.

I know that even if I get my formula board running again, I doubt I'll buy Asus again. Never have I had so many problems with a motherboard. I've never spent this much money on a board before either... just proves that you don't always get what you pay for. I'm wishing I had went for that $67 Abit board (after rebates).

ante_ante

03-19-2008, 11:55 AM

Does anyone who done the rampage mod using crossfire ??
Trying to get my 3870:s to work, can see both cards in CCC but Gpuz says Ati crossfire is Disable.

Any tips ??

ZenEffect

03-19-2008, 12:04 PM

Does anyone who done the rampage mod using crossfire ??
Trying to get my 3870:s to work, can see both cards in CCC but Gpuz says Ati crossfire is Disable.

Any tips ??

@ turbodream. make sure that crossfire is enabled in ccc if it is and does not work, reload the drivers.

@ ninogui. try hitting f8 on the post screen when you boot and select the usb stick as the boot device.

ericab

03-19-2008, 12:04 PM

@TURBODREAM

many of us have had better luck with our software, with a full reinstall of windows....

but you could just try a complete uninstall of your GFX drivers, and then a new reinstall...

and if that doesnt work;
shutdown computer
open case
remove 2nd GFX card (and sli cable)
boot up
shut down
reinstall 2nd GFX card (and sli cable)
reinstall drivers

tc17

03-19-2008, 12:25 PM

Would this bios have any better compatibility with ram than the Maximus bios? (in terms of just being able to run with the memory, without errors, not overclocking)

ZenEffect

03-19-2008, 12:30 PM

I'm guessing cpu pll = SB2 in pcprobe2.

If so, it's 1.52

sb2 i think is southbridge... should say ppl or something like that...

ericab

03-19-2008, 01:35 PM

Would this bios have any better compatibility with ram than the Maximus bios? (in terms of just being able to run with the memory, without errors, not overclocking)

although i have no hard evidence; i would assume so since its a nextgen board, and has a newer bios then the maximus

ante_ante

03-19-2008, 02:40 PM

In CCC the crossfireX is enabled. I can clock both cards, but when i´m looking in gpuz it´s says disable. Talk to one guy using crossfire also and his gpuz says enable for him, he sitting on a Formula Maximus to. I have tried to reinstall drivers with only 1 card and i have tried to reinstall with both cards. The strange thing is that earlier today i tried a run in 3dmark01 ( know that CF doesn´t improve anything ) with both cards and i got 51000p , then i tried with 1 card same clocks and everything and got 53000p that time. Really strand i think.

" Ericab " i will try that thing you told me, with boot up u mean just fire it up and shut down or go the full way and load windows and shut down ??

Grnfinger

03-19-2008, 03:00 PM

@Turbodream

I had a few "issues" after the mod, a fresh OS install solved them all
I would recommend it, its worth the hassle

bobbobson

03-19-2008, 03:09 PM

Some more feedback on my "P5E Rampage Formula". After performing the vdroop mod on my P5E i was down to 0.008 vdroop under load. Which is quite good. But now the option in the bios actually works! Now i GAIN 0.008v under load. :up:

ante_ante

03-19-2008, 03:16 PM

@Turbodream

I had a few "issues" after the mod, a fresh OS install solved them all
I would recommend it, its worth the hassle

I have to trust u then :) Only sux that i´m running dualboot with XP & Vista. But what the heck, i have a fast rampage :)

ninjagordy

03-19-2008, 04:37 PM

kevinali

03-19-2008, 04:42 PM

Yay for Cheese

03-19-2008, 05:54 PM

sb2 i think is southbridge... should say ppl or something like that...

For me, there's no CPU PLL voltage in Probe2, everest, or HWmonitor. The only thing I have with PLL in it is the southbridge PLL.

necron66

03-19-2008, 06:00 PM

yup, you can even create the bat in dos with the following commands

copy con afu.bat
afudos /iINSERTROMNAMEHERE /n /pbnc

ctrl + z

now you have a afu.bat! :up:

I made a dos usb stick following this > http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htm

Then I put the afudos and RF0219 bios on it, booted from it, and done the above quoted commands. Whats the bat do?

What do I do next, sorry for asking this :)

If I type afudos i<romname> /n or afudos i<romname> /n /pbnc I get a error saying this program must be run in MS DOS. Do I still need the cripple files from the OP?

This is P5E btw.

ZenEffect

03-19-2008, 06:30 PM

I made a dos usb stick following this > http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htm

Then I put the afudos and RF0219 bios on it, booted from it, and done the above quoted commands. Whats the bat do?

What do I do next, sorry for asking this :)

If I type afudos i<romname> /n or afudos i<romname> /n /pbnc I get a error saying this program must be run in MS DOS. Do I still need the cripple files from the OP?

This is P5E btw.

mabye it doesnt like the dos version you got. follow the boot instructions from page 1 as they are verified to work. skip the rest of the flash instructions, just the boot disk instructions. then continue with the afudos and stuff.

*edit*
i personally have not heard of nor experienced a bios as felxible as this rampage bios... we all owe The Stilt a big thanks for pioneering this whole adventure.

STaRGaZeR

03-19-2008, 06:54 PM

Zucker2k

03-19-2008, 07:14 PM

After playing with Maximus and Rampage BIOSes I will keep Maximus' 1004. Faster and more stable, the extra options of the Rampage do almost nothing for 2x2GB overclocking. I've noticed too that Rampage looses timmings at high FSBs, much more than P5E and Maximus.

QFT.

ElEctric_EyE

03-19-2008, 07:45 PM

Not too impressed here either. L727A Q6600 here w/ 2x1GB Dominators under Vista x64. Extra settings in BIOS did nothing to "push the limits". X38 WC'd. X48 must be lamo mass production BS... Waiting for Nehalem platform.

necron66

03-19-2008, 08:28 PM

mabye it doesnt like the dos version you got. follow the boot instructions from page 1 as they are verified to work. skip the rest of the flash instructions, just the boot disk instructions. then continue with the afudos and stuff.

*edit*
i personally have not heard of nor experienced a bios as felxible as this rampage bios... we all owe The Stilt a big thanks for pioneering this whole adventure.

Ok seems to have worked..... Bios is very different looking now with the rampage spash screen. Everest still reports it as a p5e tho.

dude_500

03-19-2008, 09:33 PM

Can the Asus maximus formula handle 2 x 4gb ddr2 ram (or more generally can the X38 do this)

See link for this ram

http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=7425

Kevin

I know it can do 4 x 2gb no problems (with the right bios)

I'm thinking the site got it backwards and it is 4x2gb. As far as I always knew the DDR2 protocol can only use 2gb per slot... that's why all the boards are 8gb cap.

ericab

03-19-2008, 09:38 PM

jakku

03-20-2008, 02:57 AM

How I can set FSB : DRAM 1:1 on Maximus Formula rev 1.3g? Bios 1004..

TheOriginalTB

03-20-2008, 03:22 AM

Xilikon

03-20-2008, 04:51 AM

Keep in mind Rampage bios is still beta as the board isn't out in public yet. I bet that by the time it's released (very soon from what I heard), there will be a new version...

cstkl1

03-20-2008, 08:36 AM

rampage bios 0219

hmm something weird happened
my e8500 core temp vid was 1.05v..
that was on the maximus testing over a week etc
then went to rampage it was the same..

for some reason i was curious at the effect of the SB 1.5 standby and i upped it to 1.6v after failing orthos/OCCT for a certain clock..
then my vid suddenly became 1.1125???
and it seems to be that vid from now on and weird part now occt/prime passed that clock.
changed back to maximus bios and after a few tries it went back to 1.05v..

weird..
but everest vid reading is still the same.

cuke2u

03-20-2008, 08:39 AM

Hi, 1004 more or less official now ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1004.zip
Chris

xgman

03-20-2008, 09:44 AM

Hi, 1004 more or less official now ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1004.zip
Chris

I wonder if there are any changes form the beta that was leaked. That bios messed my 9650 setup up. Not sure if I'll try this one or not after that.

cuke2u

03-20-2008, 10:15 AM

Hi, the date of the bios is exactly the same so you can take your own conclusions from that...
Chris

brewer265

03-20-2008, 10:23 AM

i wonder if they will ever release another non beta bios. i think the last official one was 802.

[timko]

03-20-2008, 10:36 AM

I wonder if there are any changes form the beta that was leaked.

I compared the checksum of the leaked and the official 1004 and the results are the same. Therefore there is no difference between the two.

RobotDJX

03-20-2008, 11:05 AM

and I wonder if we ever see another bios again for the MF

ZenEffect

03-20-2008, 01:16 PM

i would highly recommend that you re-load your os after doing the flash. this in my and others experience has corrected the few bugs that happen.

Renegade5399

03-20-2008, 01:17 PM

Ok more updates from me :)

Seems like the timing on the PCIe ports are different - using the same overclock on my 8800GT and the display driver crashes - just tried reverting back to 1004MF BIOS, and it runs smoothly again, going back to RF0219 - and I have to lower the overclock on the 8800GT. Max temp on the 8800GT is 46, so seems like it's not a temperature issue

Now I saw the EXACT opposite. I was able to clock my shader higher after the Rampage conversion. Also, my max playable settings for Crysis on my 8800GT have gone up. It no longer crashes at 860/1960/2000 like it used to...

Keep in mind Rampage bios is still beta as the board isn't out in public yet. I bet that by the time it's released (very soon from what I heard), there will be a new version...

This would explain the different behaviors, especially in this case.

fordf250

03-20-2008, 01:24 PM

mate im sure you already did this but can you post me your settings for 4.05ghz on your q6600...

cheers man...(i cant get stable at 4ghz + but im sure i will with the right bios/bios settings combination....

cheers

gordy!

I would also like to know the settings if not phase cooled. I have a max formula that runs 475x8 easy and never ran stable for 440x9 with q6600.

Now I also have a striker 2 formula running 450x9 easy and working on 460x9 so it was not the cpu holding me back. Also there is a guy running 500x8 fsb with q6600 and striker 2 formula that I am waiting for settings on and will shareu

XtremeTiramisu

03-20-2008, 01:46 PM

Further updates are still in progress...

Maximus Formula v1.03G
BIOS 0505

*~ Q6600 G0 - Batch: L723A765 - VID: 1.2625
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/DSC00009.jpg

*~ New revision double sided 2x1GB 1066 Ballistix Tracers - CL118Q.C1
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/Tracer1.jpg

*~ Thermalright Ultra120 Xtreme lapped (2* Scythe S-Flex SFF21F S-FDB 120mm 1600RPM Push-Pull configuration)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/DSC00022.jpg

For the rest of other system components, please see my signature for details.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/3720OC.jpg

The mobo came with BIOS 0602 and its OC stability was OK until ~460FSB. I didn't spend enough time with the original 0602 due to constantly random DET RAM hang at high +460FSB.
I eventually flashed to the newest Beta BIOS MF1004 using EZ flash and it was capable of going up to ~470-475FSB but it's still unstable for high FSB with the Quad core.
There was memory compatibility and OC stability issues and same DET RAM hang with MF1004 BIOS at high FSB test settings.

As per KUP's recommendation, I downgraded the BIOS to 0505.
Easy way using EZ Flash: Reflash with a current or newer BIOS file and shut the system down while it's in the flashing process.
Rename the MF0505 BIOS file in the root directory of your USB drive to FORMULA.ROM and now turn on the system to get auto BIOS recovery.
It will auto do an erase and search and reflash to the FORMULA.ROM bios file(renamed 0505 in this case). It's completely safe and you'll just need to do a full CMOS clear after.

I'm very impressed by the new revision double sided 2x1GB 1066 Ballistix Tracer kit by the way.
Eventhough some has complained about its compatibility and OC-ability with this mobo but I do find the new rev double sided Ballistix Tracers to have great OC-ability with relatively low given volts.
I also have an older Ballistix Tracers 1066 2GB kit from last year to compare and it's capable of being stable @ DDR2-1165 (5-5-4-9-3-30-3-3-8) from my previous P5K-Deluxe setup.
But, it doesn't scale well with given volt and not stable at 5-4-4-9 primary timings.
Now Look closely at new rev. double sided Ballistix Tracers primary timings and the subtimings to its given VDimm in the template. :up:
I feel that there may be still a small room for further timings tightening but it's more than good enough for now.

Ambient Room Temp: 21C degree
Closed Case - Well ventilated in Antec 900
Idle temp 20 min after bench sessions: Core1: 33 Core2: 33 Core3: 30 Core4: 32
OCCT 100% Load: Core1: 65.5 Core2: 65.5 Core3: 62.5 Core4: 62.5
Prime95 Small FFT 100% Load: Core1: 66 Core2: 66 Core3: 63 Core4: 63

Best CPU Score in 3DMark06 - Vista x64
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5837062

The following template is a reference for a 99.9% 24/7 stable configuration on air. Several hours of testing sessions using OCCT 2.0.0.a MIX and Prime95 v25.6 Blend/Small FFT stable.
Most importantly, no cold boot issue and no DET RAM hang with the following specific configuration.:up:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/2008-03-20-13h17-VCore.png

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 465
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1116 [5:6 Divider]
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 9
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO [More bandwidth]
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : AUTO [More bandwidth]

CPU Voltage : 1.500 [1.480] *Note: 1.472 Vcore is enough for OCCT/Prime stable but 1.480 Vcore further insures stability in cold boot and no DET RAM hang.
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60 [1.712] *Note: AUTO setting will auto scale with given Vcore. You can try manually adjust this setting for high FSB running Quads.
DRAM Voltage : 2.12 [2.206]
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48 [1.520~1.536] Exactly as required for stability and no DET RAM hang.
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10 [1.120]
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference :0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF [1.104]
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5 [1.536]

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : ENABLED
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Zucker2k

03-20-2008, 02:01 PM

Keep in mind Rampage bios is still beta as the board isn't out in public yet. I bet that by the time it's released (very soon from what I heard), there will be a new version...

The Rampage is already released! Has been for a long time already. The release bios is 0215 too. So 0219 is already an upgrade to the release bios, numerically speaking. It doesn't matter that we haven't seen bios 0215, but technically speaking, 0219 is an upgrade of 0215, albeit it is an alpha bios.

Edit: It needs to be said that X38 and X48 are technically one and the same. The difference may be in the binning process (resulting is less voltage, heat), and I'm yet to see the X48 do something an X38 couldn't do. If my memory serves me right, the only reason why Intel announced X48 was because there were problems with the X38 USB subsystem, and this only popped up in very rare circumstances.

Why I'm I saying this? Asus, like all other mobo manufacturing companies, has had enough time to work for this particular chipset. All the work they did on the X38 chipset was effectively for the X48 chipset as well - you can confirm this by simply flashing a maximus bios to a rampage board and vise versa. I hope for our sakes though Asus engineers would be able to continue squeezing some performance/stability out of these chipsets.

ninogui

03-20-2008, 02:13 PM

Ok guys

here are my first impressions for migrating to 219 rampage, along with some questions.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w209/nino_tsunami/Image22222.jpg

Overall, i noticed no problem whatsoever.

For the very first time:

- Yes! finally i crossed the 10k line for everest memory read! never been able to do this stable on any other bios, from 505 all the way to 907. The rams are on the blue slots (for the very first time in months lolol)

- Opposite to what some people may say, i find it sooo much more stable

- my main settings:

cpu ratio 8x
FSB 442 (3.536ghz)

dram freq. 1178mhz
dram mainsettings 5,5,5,16
dram static read disabled
ai clock twister strong
trans.booster manual

perf.level 6
pull ins all disabled

cpu vcore 1.457 (1.44 everest)
pll 1.64 bios
nb 1.53 (a.55 everest)
fsb term. 1.44
sb volt 1.075
ddr volt 2.32 (2.42 everest)
loadline enabled
cpu gtl x63
nb gtl x67
ddr cont. ref ddr2

funny enough i finally got stability by notching up 1 or 2 times pll, nb, and mainly fsb term and sb. my ram likes juice, so its on 2.32 bios/2.42 everest.

have u guys noticed that the 219 undervolts the cpu on the Q6600G0 ? by as much as .1volt overall.

is it possible that i only got stability notching up fsb term and sb volt, does this make any sense to you.?

which would be the ideal subtimmings to get a little bit more of the ram? (transcend axeram pc 1200)

Sometimes the ddr cmd skew is greyed out, maybe something to do with some item on auto(no idea).

Has anyone messed with the dram clk and cmd skew to good term.? prob a delay for channel A would be in place? (the first socket closer to the nb/cpu)

any comments appreciated.

thks a lot the stilt, grnfinger, erikab, zeneffect and zucker2k and all the others for their risky first few experiments on this

BTW.. after this in practical terms why would anyone ever buy the rampage if u have the formula? all this should shut up people saying bad words about formula. After this.. only skulltrail would make any sense.

rgds

ninogui

03-20-2008, 02:35 PM

VinnieWeiss

03-20-2008, 02:44 PM

I can't seem to get anything stable past 425 FSB. It's stable in OCCT for at least 2.5 hours, but if I raise the FSB to 435, it becomes unstable and more volts don't help. Here are my current BIOS settings for my e8400:

loads of settings

I run with about the same, only the Max FSB I got was 433. Mem can go 450 at least, but no matter which voltage I change I cant get above 433 stable.

My settings:

BIOS 1004
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 433
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-866
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 14
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.31875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.29
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5V

dude_500

03-20-2008, 04:25 PM

Are there RAM dividers on this board? My old P6N could have an 1800fsb and run the ram at 800mhz. All I can find is multiplier settings to go higher than fsb. I have 4 gig sticks of G-Skill 800's which isn't the best and it won't post with anything over 900mhz on the ram.

Robin77

03-20-2008, 04:34 PM

I run with about the same, only the Max FSB I got was 433. Mem can go 450 at least, but no matter which voltage I change I cant get above 433 stable.

My settings:

BIOS 1004
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 433
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-866
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 14
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.31875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.29
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5V

For me the same. @ 433 MHz is limit whatever settings I use.

Grnfinger

03-20-2008, 04:56 PM

your NB volts are to low so are your FSBT volts
1.49 and 1.40 for a start, if your running 4GB you will need to run the NB a tad higher maybe 1.51-1.53
I also have better stability with CPU PLL set to AUTO

Grnfinger

03-20-2008, 04:59 PM

set your trfc to 50 or higher

Maglin

03-20-2008, 05:24 PM

Since we are on the subject I'm wondering about the skew's effect and what they are for. I have 4x4GB G.Skill PC6400 sticks. They run pretty good @ 1066mhz 5-5-5-15 / Trfc-65 / PL-7. That is @ 400 FSB. I got 450x9 to run for a few minutes but it was just so unstable. But I couldn't even post before at 450x9. I'm still on air for a few more weeks. I'm looking to WC the CPU/NB in a few weeks with some excellent gear. I'm also debating on getting some DIMM cooler's as well but I haven't found anything for 4 DIMMS.

Anyways. The Trfc was the ticket to get this stable at just 400x9. I'm thinking that changing the skew evenly would result in the same results but I've not gotten around to testing it just yet. So if anyone else has any input I'm all eyes. :)

dude_500

03-20-2008, 05:27 PM

STaRGaZeR

03-20-2008, 05:36 PM

hi

have you tried to mess around with the skew delays and advance.? that will prob make a difference for 2x2gb.

No I didn't try them, when they release a new Rampage BIOS I'll put it again and will see the results tweaking skew delays. But I'm liking this Maximus 1004 :)

ZenEffect

03-20-2008, 07:37 PM

No I didn't try them, when they release a new Rampage BIOS I'll put it again and will see the results tweaking skew delays. But I'm liking this Maximus 1004 :)

well, as far as i can tell the skews do absolutely nothing for performance. i have not tested for stability at this point but from the highest advanced to lowest delay i saw no difference in everest.

sup3rfly

03-20-2008, 07:56 PM

i havent check if there is any performace improvement when setting the skews but what i can tell is that it did help on memory OC-able.

STaRGaZeR

03-20-2008, 07:58 PM

The problem with 2x2GB is not perfomance, but stability. 1 subtimming wrong and you'll ruin your overclock. You can't use the same techniques of overcloking with 2x1 and 2x2. They're a lot more sensitive. What does skew delay do exactly BTW?

sup3rfly what are your experiences with this options?

sup3rfly

03-20-2008, 08:14 PM

ok with both skew settings set to auto i cant get passed ddr1180 5-5-5-10 but with skew i got it passed to ddr 1290 5-5-5-10.... dual 8m spi... i cant remember whats the settings kind to enlight me whats the settings value then i can tell u which is the one i used...sorry i m sick and was benching with 2 mobo and busy doin insulation on rampage oops maximus formula for DI on this weekend :P

WFO

03-20-2008, 09:38 PM

For those with reporting problems in Everest, v4.50.1330 final was released today.

http://www.lavalys.com/products/download.php?ps=UE&lang=en

Signal64

03-20-2008, 09:50 PM

I just got a 1.03G Maximus Formula out of the box and onto the bench.

I'm trying out some 2x4Gig PC28500 sticks that require a Row Refresh Cycle (tRFC) of 56, but there isn't any option above 42.

Pretty much stuffed as the SPD on these sticks are for true DDR2 800 operation and need the higher tRFC for their 1066 operation or above. To at least boot at that speed anyway.

On the P5K-E WiFi ASUS added a few more tRFC options and wondering if there is a Maximus Formula BIOS that might have the same.

Have tried 907.

dude_500

03-20-2008, 11:43 PM

sup3rfly

03-21-2008, 12:23 AM

ok i think i used -250ps.... it did help in getting higher memory speed but i m not sure if it helps in performance as i was busy insulating the mobo :)

will test it and let u all know later tonite

Spyrus

03-21-2008, 12:58 AM

Yes 1004 can do it and also the rampage formula bios 0214/0219

jakku

03-21-2008, 02:52 AM

Using bios official 1004 here is my 4.GHz STABLE settings.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1069
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.30000v real 2.8v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/205/stableyr7.th.png (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stableyr7.png)

Hmmmm... If I set FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400, my memory set ~1151MHz something like that, but windows doesn't boot. My dominator ver is 4.2 I think It's :banana::banana::banana::banana: ?

ninogui

03-21-2008, 03:37 AM

well, as far as i can tell the skews do absolutely nothing for performance. i have not tested for stability at this point but from the highest advanced to lowest delay i saw no difference in everest.

i havent check if there is any performace improvement when setting the skews but what i can tell is that it did help on memory OC-able.

ok i think i used -250ps.... it did help in getting higher memory speed but i m not sure if it helps in performance as i was busy insulating the mobo :)

will test it and let u all know later tonite

I guess it makes sense. If looking for stability, channel A skews should be delayed, so the channel B has some recovery time for the strobe status conditions. On the other hand and opposite if your ram allows and you´re looking for pure OC maybe advancing the channel B skew would make sense.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w209/nino_tsunami/33333.jpg

One more little landmark for me. Together with rampage bios 219 these memories keep on impressing me, and my feeling is it won´t stop here. You can´t get better than this on memories a little over €100 for 2x1GB...

greets

Spyrus

03-21-2008, 03:44 AM

With Dram Static Enabled + Strong is no go?
If yes then Dram Static Enabled + Moderate is possible?
I have tried Dram Enabled + Strong with errors...

jakku

03-21-2008, 04:11 AM

Ok, I'll go check with Dram static Enabled.. Noo.. Don't work with Dram Enabled + Strong.. :banana::banana::banana::banana:

Spyrus

03-21-2008, 04:51 AM

Dram Static Enabled + Moderate?

Of course Strong is better but it seems that i always had Static Enable and that is maybe why Strong is no go.

Dostoyevsky77

03-21-2008, 05:03 AM

Oh, hey... anyone notice 1004 went to the master FTP?
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/

Still no mention on the downloads page, though.

jakku

03-21-2008, 05:05 AM

Dram Static Enabled + Moderate?

Of course Strong is better but it seems that i always had Static Enable and that is maybe why Strong is no go.

Yes, I try that, anyway don't boot :/

@Dostoyevsky77 Yes, I use it ;)

cuke2u

03-21-2008, 05:12 AM

Oh, hey... anyone notice 1004 went to the master FTP?
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/

Still no mention on the downloads page, though.

See 17 posts up :)
Chris

Dostoyevsky77

03-21-2008, 05:38 AM

Oh, LOL. Sorry, dude.

I guess I'm not the only one who checks the FTP server first thing after they wake up in the morning!

jakku

03-21-2008, 08:04 AM

Someone have E8400 stable at 4Ghz with TEST Blend - stress CPU and RAM ? :confused:

DirtyShady

03-21-2008, 08:15 AM

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1004.zip

No differences with beta which released since few weeks ?

I have already 1004 but when this Bios was not official...

Leeghoofd

03-21-2008, 08:43 AM

Nope according a few posts earlier these biosses are identical...

ZenEffect

03-21-2008, 10:16 AM

the skew's only effect stability. i was running the highest advance on both skews and finally crashed :D
when running normal no problems. since there was no diff in performacne my experiment is concluded and i am back to skew normal.

jakku

03-21-2008, 01:47 PM

Why I can't go over 480 FSB ??? :confused: :confused: I use these settings:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 480
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1153
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.40000v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60

Maby need do some changes in Advaced menu or somewhere else ?

jdrom

03-21-2008, 02:18 PM

Can anybody reassure me that BIOS 1004 supports the Q9450? And if it does, would the X3350 work then as well?

sup3rfly

03-21-2008, 05:11 PM

hey zen from my experience -skew help me to oc my ram higher and +skew worse so i think u may wanan try -skew since u say it doesnt affect performance at all :)

ZenEffect

03-21-2008, 06:21 PM

im running 1200 on a 400 strap... which means to oc my ram higher by using a different fsb strap (completely re-ocing my computer for stability) i could not attain as high of a cpu oc as the speed of the ram would be through the roof... leaving it to normal suites me just fine. :yepp:

*edit*

WHY DOES NOBODY HAVE THE SAME L2 CACHE LATENCY AS ME?!?!?

Zucker2k

03-21-2008, 06:46 PM

STaRGaZeR

03-21-2008, 06:56 PM

L2 cache latency in Everest test is pure crap in Wolfdale and Yorkfield CPUs compared to Conroe and Kentsfield :(

ZenEffect

03-21-2008, 10:23 PM

WHAT IS YOUR L2 CACHE LATENCY? :)

2.8ns

jakku

03-22-2008, 02:30 AM

So someone can help me, with this :banana::banana::banana::banana: ? :confused:

[timko]

03-22-2008, 03:12 AM

So someone can help me, with this :banana::banana::banana::banana: ? :confused:

In order to make sure it's not your CPU holding you back from doing 9 x 480, try running 8 x 480 instead. That way your CPU will only be running 3.84ghz and you can test for 480Mhz FSB stability. You might also want to try bumping your FSB and North Bridge voltages a few notches as well.

Once you get 8 x 480 stable then you go try again at 9 x 480. If that fails then you know you will have to bump the vcore volts.

jakku

03-22-2008, 03:23 AM

Thanks dude ;) i'll try it later ;)

No... I can't boot at 480 x 8 anyway.... :shrug:

JackeShan

03-22-2008, 06:03 AM

Thanks The Stilt! Flashed my Maximus without a problem :)

I'm currently using BIOS 0214. What bios is best for Q6600, 0214 or 0219? Not getting my Q6600 until next week.

Eastcoasthandle

03-22-2008, 06:55 AM

Testing parameters for Twinx/XMS2-8500/C5D:
Twin2x2048-8500C5D Data Sheet
Memory Voltage 2.2 Volts Version 1.x and 2.15 Volts for version 2.x.
Motherboard make and model: Asus P5B or M2N32-SLI Premium/Deluxe Only!
Each pair is tested and packaged together using the following settings:
AI Over Clock Tuner: Manual
OC Operation: Disabled
NOS Operation: Disabled
CPU External Frequency: Manually set to 268 MHz
PCI CLK1: Auto
PCI CLK2: Auto
DDR2 Voltage control: 2.20V Ver 1.x (2.1 Volts for 2.X)
CPU Core Voltage: Auto
CPU Multiplier: 10
DDR2 SDRAM Clock: Manually set to 800MHz
DRAM Timing Selectable: Manual
SDRAM CAS Latency: 5T
SDRAM RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD): 5T
SDRAM Row Precharge (tRP): 5T
SDRAM Active to Precharge Delay (tRAS): 15T
SDRAM Write Recovery Time: 5
1T/2T: 2T
A1 Clock Skew: Auto
ADVANCED Voltage Control:
CPU Vcore offset:-Disabled
DDR2 Termination:-0.5X
CPU to NB HT:_____1.200V
NB to SB HT:______Auto
NB Core/PCI-E:____Auto
SB Core/PCI-E:____Auto
SB Standby core:__+1.500V
All other settings are motherboard defaults.
Maximum DDR2 recommended VDIMM: 2.2 Volts for Rev 1.x and 2.1 Volts for Ver. 2.X
Corsair Memory (http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54052)

Ywap

03-22-2008, 06:55 AM

I have a little problem with the FSB: DRAM. I can´t seem to find an option in the bios menu to set it to 1:1.

To solve this i have to set the DRAM frequency to 667 in the bios and then change the FSB in windows using Asus AI suite. If i choose 400 fsb in the bios i can´t get my FSB: DRAM to 1:1, it´s set to 5:6. This is with 0907 bios and an E8400.

I´m no expert in any way, maybe i´m totally missing something here?

Eastcoasthandle

03-22-2008, 06:57 AM

I have a little problem with the FSB:DRAM. I can´t seem to find an option in the bios menu to set it to 1:1.

To solve this i have to set the DRAM frequency to 667 in the bios and then change the FSB in windows using Asus AI suite. If i choose 400 fsb in the bios i can´t get my FSB:DRAM to 1:1, it´s set to 5:6. This is with 0907 bios and an E8400.

I´m no expert in any way, maybe i´m totally missing something here?
Assuming you have a Maximus Formula it would be nice if you also post:
-Ram Make/Model
-CPU
-Etc

conzymaher

03-22-2008, 07:00 AM

How difficult is this board to clock? I don't want another DFI Lanparty NF4 experience :D That thing was a nightmare but it did get my 3700+ to 3ghz....

Ywap

03-22-2008, 07:01 AM

Eastcoasthandle, setup is:

Asus Maximus Formula
E8400
Thermalright 120 ultra extreme
Team Elite pc-6400 2x2gb
8800 gts 512
Hiper 580 psu
Vista 64 home premium

Eastcoasthandle

03-22-2008, 07:38 AM

Eastcoasthandle, setup is:

Asus Maximus Formula
E8400
Thermalright 120 ultra extreme
Team Elite pc-6400 2x2gb
8800 gts 512
Hiper 580 psu
Vista 64 home premium

To get 1 : 1 you need to select the correct Dram Frequency. It's usually the 1st few selections from the drop down menu of Dram Frequency. The FSB strap to North Bridge should be OK at Auto. See if that helps any. I am not sure if bios 1004 helps any. Can anyone confirm this?

jakku

03-22-2008, 08:12 AM

Yes in 1004 bios if u chose 1st section 667mhz u get 1:1

[timko]

03-22-2008, 08:37 AM

Thanks dude ;) i'll try it later ;)

No... I can't boot at 480 x 8 anyway.... :shrug:

Try Transaction Booster Disabled and Relax 1 and Ai Clock Twister to Moderate. If none of those work then drop your DRAM frequency to something lower so that doesn't hold you back either for now.

Ywap

03-22-2008, 09:00 AM

To get 1 : 1 you need to select the correct Dram Frequency. It's usually the 1st few selections from the drop down menu of Dram Frequency. The FSB strap to North Bridge should be OK at Auto. See if that helps any. I am not sure if bios 1004 helps any. Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks for your reply!

The problem is, when i change from 333 to 400fsb the bios only let me choose 800 or higher for DRAM frequency. 667 just dissapears..

jakku

03-22-2008, 09:39 AM

Eastcoasthandle

03-22-2008, 09:45 AM

Thanks for your reply!

The problem is, when i change from 333 to 400fsb the bios only let me choose 800 or higher for DRAM frequency. 667 just dissapears..

Did you set FSB Strap to North Bridge at Auto? Then check the Dram Frequency?

Kenski

03-22-2008, 10:31 AM

May just give it a try over the long weekend, ;)
The QX really deserves a better mobo than the stock P5E, that and the endless memory glitches/compatabilty with anything more than a modest overclock would've seen me changing the mobo soon anyway,
Thanks for the replies. :)

Just did it, :D :D
Running bios 0219 and couldn't be happier,
Thanks for all the effort and info in this thread, :clap:
Running Xp and crossfired HD3870's and everything works fine, just disabled the second lan port, voltminder and extra temp monitors and xp booted right up,
set everything in bios as it was originally for now, mem performance about the same as before, (2x 1g TeamXtreem Pc6400 @ 533, 4-4-4-12) but with all those new options (to learn and play with) I'm sure I'll get a little extra,
main reason for trying though was the horrible vdroop when overclocking the QX9650, runs 4g (10 x 400) fine at 1.328v under load, but had to be set at 1.425v in bios and idled in the desktop @ 1.392v, now it runs 1.35v set in bios, 1.328v idle and 1.336v under load... :shocked:
Havn't run any extended stability tests yet, but so far so good. :yepp:

jakku

03-22-2008, 10:44 AM

Thanks for your reply!

The problem is, when i change from 333 to 400fsb the bios only let me choose 800 or higher for DRAM frequency. 667 just dissapears..

OMG ! Why u set 400fsb ??? Set 333 and u get 667... Simpe...

jakku

03-22-2008, 10:47 AM

;2859173']Try Transaction Booster Disabled and Relax 1 and Ai Clock Twister to Moderate. If none of those work then drop your DRAM frequency to something lower so that doesn't hold you back either for now.

THNX ! It's work with Ai Clock Twister Moderate and Relax 1 :up:
P.S Someone know how mutch need for 5Ghz NB, SB voltage ? How max I can set for safe voltage for these settings, I don't want blow my mobo :D :
CPU Voltage : 1.40000v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60 ????

Ywap

03-22-2008, 11:04 AM

Did you set FSB Strap to North Bridge at Auto? Then check the Dram Frequency?

Yes i did... Shouldn´t i?

Ywap

03-22-2008, 11:07 AM

OMG ! Why u set 400fsb ??? Set 333 and u get 667... Simpe...

Then how would i be able to overclock the cpu without raising the fsb?

Renegade5399

03-22-2008, 11:13 AM

You can't. The lowest divider is 1:1. X38 does not have downward dividers and only nvidia chipsets allow you to unlink the RAM and FSB.

Zucker2k

03-22-2008, 11:47 AM

Then how would i be able to overclock the cpu without raising the fsb?

You can do the 1600 fsb default pin-mod. Even though, in this case, the system wil automatically raise the default fsb to 400. Are the dividers not suitable for you? One trick to access all possible dividers on this board is to set the strap AUTO and then go to DRAM FREQUENCY and press ENTER button, you'll have access to all possible dividers. This is helpful if you don't really understand how fsb/strap affects your ram.

Grnfinger

03-22-2008, 12:35 PM

Has ne1 been able to boot with 500+ FSB on the 266 strap?
got some 9600 ram here and cant get the bugger to boot

XtremeTiramisu

03-22-2008, 01:42 PM

Thanks The Stilt! Flashed my Maximus without a problem :)

I'm currently using BIOS 0214. What bios is best for Q6600, 0214 or 0219? Not getting my Q6600 until next week.

I'd like to know as well :)

MrWizard6600

03-22-2008, 02:51 PM

Thing fails to post when I set the DDR speed to anything other than Auto.

halp?

ZenEffect

03-22-2008, 02:58 PM

any new beta bios' out recently?

it seemed like we flew through the last 3... and updates? anybody?:shrug:

Grnfinger

03-22-2008, 03:25 PM

Thing fails to post when I set the DDR speed to anything other than Auto.

halp?

Please post you current bios settings

newls1

03-22-2008, 03:56 PM

Guys, could you help me out here please? What BIOS would you recommend for a quad (Q6600) and 8GB ram (4 sticks of 2GB's) The G.Skill PC8500 stuff. Im currently using 0903 and like it alot, but just wondering if there is a better BIOS for using 4 sticks of ram. Thanks

Xilikon

03-22-2008, 04:09 PM

I'd like to know as well :)

Me too...

XtremeTiramisu, we have exactly the same Q6600 batch number and vid (we bought at the same time on Q6600 price cut day in july). I'm curious to check which one so I can flash and tweak for a possible stable 3.8 GHz 24/7.

dc2

03-22-2008, 08:54 PM

after upgrading to bios 1004, when I goto system properties in XP
its showing 4.05 GHZ not 3.6 GHZ is that normal?

ChaosMinionX

03-22-2008, 11:46 PM

Signal64

03-23-2008, 12:08 AM

Are there any settings to tweak that might help get PCIe 1.x video cards to work correctly on this board?

With 907 and 1004 BIOS initialization of the video card is inconsistent.

Either I boot up and display will come up fine, or LCD Poster will get to VGABIOS and then one long and three short beeps, no display but system will continue to boot.

Tried setting PCIe clock to 101, 102, 104 but seems to be making it worse so it's at 100 for now.

Grnfinger

03-23-2008, 06:00 AM

Grnfinger

03-23-2008, 06:05 AM

Well guys that were hitting 3.8 are now getting 4.0 with bios 219
But I would expect to see a few more bios shortly.
219 is definately a good bios, for quad or c2d

Xilikon

03-23-2008, 07:01 AM

after upgrading to bios 1004, when I goto system properties in XP
its showing 4.05 GHZ not 3.6 GHZ is that normal?

I assume you are using 8x450 to get 3.6 ?

If yes, Windows will think it's 9x450 (they can't see the current multiplier, only the FSB so they assume the default multiplier) and show 4050 MHz instead. This is the same as me who used 8x400 for 3.2 GHz and Vista see 3.6 GHz.

kup

03-23-2008, 07:20 AM

Kup had great results going back to 505

Yup, 4 sticks with 0505 and I didn't lose any overclocking potential when compared to 2 sticks.

joe.denice

03-23-2008, 07:40 AM

so how much better ocing you get with that Rampage Formula bios??

Ric2L

03-23-2008, 08:15 AM

when flashing to the latest bios for the max formula, can i burn the image to cd and reboot with cd as priority? or do you need to use a flash drive.

cajer

03-23-2008, 08:43 AM

Can anybody reassure me that BIOS 1004 supports the Q9450? And if it does, would the X3350 work then as well?

It supports the Q9450 and the X3350. Becuase I have a x3350 and it recognizes it as a q9450.

cajer

03-23-2008, 08:52 AM

Is there a way to get my memory lower than 1:1 or unlink the memory because at 450 fsb my DRAM frequency is at 900 and once it gets that high, my system crashes. ( I have a bad pair of crucial ballistix)

dc2

03-23-2008, 08:52 AM

I assume you are using 8x450 to get 3.6 ?

If yes, Windows will think it's 9x450 (they can't see the current multiplier, only the FSB so they assume the default multiplier) and show 4050 MHz instead. This is the same as me who used 8x400 for 3.2 GHz and Vista see 3.6 GHz.

yeah I used 8x 450..

Grnfinger

03-23-2008, 09:01 AM

so how much better ocing you get with that Rampage Formula bios??

Its worth the coversion, much more stable board now.
Overall lower volts for same overclocks

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test2-2.jpg

icecpu

03-23-2008, 09:05 AM

can someone help me please ?
I can't connect and download the "AFUDOS 2.36" file in the first page.

I want to change to this Rampage to see if the det dram problem go away, thanks

Grnfinger

03-23-2008, 09:26 AM

Grab this version of AFUDOS

http://rapidshare.com/files/101753029/AFUDOS229ES.zip.html

you can use that version to flash back to Maximus if you so choose

jakku

03-23-2008, 09:27 AM

Its worth the coversion, much more stable board now.
Overall lower volts for same overclocks

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test2-2.jpg

Can u post your Extreme Tweaker and Advanced (CPU Configuration, USB conf.) selections templates ? :rolleyes:

Grnfinger

03-23-2008, 11:11 AM

Oh I suppose, this is for 4.3GHZ if you want to go higher you will need to adjust NB volts to 1.51-1.53

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0255.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0254-1.jpg

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 478
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1147
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled ( anything above 480FSB change to AUTO will prevent "DET RAM" hang)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : what ever you need
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO ( dont argue with what works )
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

This setup has been proven 18 hours Prime stable blend test / 5 hours OCCT

jakku

03-23-2008, 11:23 AM

Thanks, I'll try it ;) How mutch can use CPU voltage for 24/7 ?
P.S with your settings I got BSOD... I try use:
CPU Voltage : 1.45v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60 but don't help me for stable.. :/

ericab

03-23-2008, 11:25 AM

heres 2.36 just in-case you still wanted it:

http://rapidshare.com/files/101778262/AFUDOS236-ENGINEERING_EDITION.zip.html

icecpu

03-23-2008, 11:52 AM

hi Grnfinger

After the modd to rampage bios do you experience any of DET DRAM hang ramdomly ?

I'm tire of this board for hanging DET DRAM for almost 2 months of tweaking and changing bios setting, update bios.

I'm thinking about get rid of this board and get the Striker II Extreme 790i when it come out.

Grnfinger

03-23-2008, 11:58 AM

I did at first, it was a very frustrating experience. After you learn what the new memory settings do, I have had NO Det Ram hangs unless I'm playing with new settings. I would recommend the coversion to anyone who is not happy with the Maximus "issues"

zlojack

03-23-2008, 11:58 AM

Man, I'm having a tough time overclocking my QX9650 on BIOS 1004....

It just doesn't scale well at all. 1.26v for 3.6 GHz, then it needs like 1.4 to even get into Windows at 4.0 GHz...

Crazy. I think I'm going to try this bios and see if it makes a difference.

Coolclocks

03-23-2008, 12:03 PM

I did a rampage to maximus backflash with just afudos 2.36 and the MF0907 bios works right away :)

Exentler

03-23-2008, 12:30 PM

i flashed my MF and a have now "Rampage Formula"

shall i use MF drivers or RF drivers ?

Grnfinger

03-23-2008, 12:37 PM

lol
I think you mean MF drivers and yes you use the Maximus drivers.

Spyrus

03-23-2008, 12:51 PM

With PL=8 and phases enable you should have better memory bandwidth/latency.

Grnfinger

03-23-2008, 01:11 PM

With PL=8 and phases enable you should have better memory bandwidth/latency.

Its a tad better thats for sure:up:
Great difference in L2 cache

PL7 all disabled

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test1-1.png

PL8 all enabled

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test2-3.png

gurusan

03-23-2008, 01:26 PM

Thanks Stilt and everyone else for all the helpful info in this thread!

Successful P5E to Rampage 219 BIOS! :) Very easy.....now I've got to figure out all these darned settings.

Also, any ideas when the next Rampage bios will be released?

ericab

03-23-2008, 01:49 PM

Also, any ideas when the next Rampage bios will be released?

no :up:

jakku

03-23-2008, 01:56 PM

@ Grnfinger why u use PCI-E Frequency: 110 ? Not 100 ?

ante_ante

03-23-2008, 02:01 PM

What do u guys prefer on this board? Should i buy old rev 2x1gb crucial so i get 4x1gb total or should i try to find a nice par of 2x2gb memorys ??

Grnfinger

03-23-2008, 02:05 PM

better performance

gurusan

03-23-2008, 02:22 PM

Guys....Is this really the vCore read point? Because I have it set to 1.4v in the BIOS, it says 1.38v via CPU-Z and I get 1.5V from the DMM!!!! Is this a result of flashing to the Rampage BIOS?

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5560/vcorewm4.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vcorewm4.jpg)

****Update***

BIOS SET: 1.3V
BIOS READ: 1.24
CPU-Z READ: 1.280
DMM READ: 1.45 :wth:

What's goin on?

ericab

03-23-2008, 02:27 PM

What do u guys prefer on this board? Should i buy old rev 2x1gb crucial so i get 4x1gb total or should i try to find a nice par of 2x2gb memorys ??

personally; i think 4gb is a waste on this board.... actually; x38's in general. but if you insist, id go with 2x2GBs, over 4x1GBs

Grnfinger

03-23-2008, 03:38 PM

I agree with ericab 2x2GB will clock easier than 4x1GB sticks and put less stress on the NB

icecpu

03-23-2008, 03:58 PM

I try to modd to rampage with no success , I got to this part

When DOS has loaded and you see C:\ type in AFU236U /iLOADER.rom and press enter.

I enter AFU236U /iLOADER.rom
but nothing happen, it says bad file name or command, something like that . help please

VoMeT

03-23-2008, 04:15 PM

Hi guys i've switched back and forth between MF and RF a couple of times as I was having some issues with my memory, as I was trouble shooting, I was running memtest2.01 and noticed that in the chipset section it said x38/x48, I was like wtf if I had to RMA this board they would find out, so I went over to my bro-inlaws to check as he has the same unflashed board,ran memtest 2.01 and it also reported it as having chipset x38/x48. I do not know if anyone else has ever noticed this, just thought I would share my findings, if someone else can verify would be great.

kup

03-23-2008, 04:21 PM

Its a tad better thats for sure:up:
Great difference in L2 cache

PL7 all disabled

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test1-1.png

PL8 all enabled

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test2-3.png

I've just tried this too, I didn't get the same boost as you (% wise I mean) but I got a significant boost all the same! :cool:

gurusan

03-23-2008, 04:33 PM

^says the same on my P5E. Memtest86 probably just can't tell the difference between x38 and x48 chips because they are basically the same thing.

icecpu

03-23-2008, 04:36 PM

ok , I have successfully flash to rampage 207, now I need advise on setting, anyone would post there setting for E8400 please ?

Eastcoasthandle

03-23-2008, 04:44 PM

Grnfinger

03-23-2008, 04:47 PM

I've just tried this too, I didn't get the same boost as you (% wise I mean) but I got a significant boost all the same! :cool:

Have you played with skew settings yet?
I have tried them but I cannot see / feel any difference
Gonna take the ram above 1200 and see if it has any effect then.

gurusan

03-23-2008, 04:49 PM

You guys do realize that the number of processes running (Xp/Vista) can effect Everest's Cache & Memory Benchmark scores right? Run the benchmarks with 40 processes then run it again with 20 processes and see what you get ;)

I have never understood why people post up screens showing a "difference" of 50mb/sec bandwidth and .2ns latency.

Even on a fresh boot with only a few processes open, try running the benchmark...then run it again immediately afterward. It will be different. I only use it to get a rough estimate of performance changes....but to count on it as an accurate tool is foolish IMO.

kup

03-23-2008, 05:08 PM

Not tried the Skew settings yet but when I get some time I'll give it a go. A few people have reported a minus Skew improved FSB/Ram clocking.

dude_500

03-23-2008, 05:33 PM

Just upgraded 207 to 219, still can't get 460x8 to post but never could, running 450x8 now (on q6600). I noticed they got rid of speedstep option in bios, but it appears to be enabled which is kind of annoying. CPUz reports 3.6ghz at 1.188v, speedfan reports 1.43v (what it should be), and windows reports 2.13ghz. What a conflict of numbers. Am I actually not running an overclock? is cpuz the best way to check the CLOCK but not the voltage?

dc2

03-23-2008, 05:48 PM

I was playing around with my mobo settings and basically Im trying XtremeTiramisu bios settings with some additional changes (marked in red)

my room temps are around: 25c
Bios: 1004
evererest is reporting NB temps of 49c and on load it goes as high as 53c is that safe temps?

as for CPU temps im in high 30's on idle and high 60's on load that should change as Im waiting for my W/C kit to arrive this week

can anyone poing out where I can make some more changes? thanks!

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 465
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1117
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 9
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO [More bandwidth]
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : AUTO [More bandwidth]

CPU Voltage : 1.475
NB voltage: 1.61
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference :0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : ENABLED
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

icecpu

03-23-2008, 07:51 PM

ok I manage to convert to Rampage bios 219 successfully and seem so far so good, no more hang DET DRAM.

icecpu

03-23-2008, 07:58 PM

Grnfinger, thank you for advising to do a convert to Rampage bios. Now so far so good, no more hang DET DRAM, seem to be go away.

zlojack

03-23-2008, 09:32 PM

Ok guys, I need some advice here.

I'm having a hell of a time getting my QX0650 to overclock beyond a certain speed.

At 3.6 GHz 9x400 with 1.26v it's perfect and runs Prime95 all day and all night.

But once I try to bump it up toe 4.0 it just won't do it. I bumped the vcore up to 1.44v and still no love. I think that's a pretty good bump for 400 MHz, no?

My PLL is at 1.5 and my FSBTerm is set at 1.4 in bios (shows at .1 lower in the bios voltage monitor)

Bios 1004 Temps are 64 64 59 60 load with ambient around 20-21. This is on water. Fuzion with an MCP655 and a PA120.2 with 4 Scythe 1200 RPM in push/pull on the rad.

Here are my settings for 4.0GHz. Does about an hour or two in Prime95

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled (1)

CPU Voltage : 1.4125 (1.4 in CPUZ)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.34
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Spyrus

03-24-2008, 02:18 AM

Test 100MHz at a time a 400 MHz is great jump

[timko]

03-24-2008, 05:06 AM

Is this really the vCore read point?

I've read through (over the past few weeks) both Maximus Formula threads and this Rampage one. Nobody seems to know the DMM points for anything on this mobo and those that do know don't seem to want to share :(

zlojack

03-24-2008, 05:23 AM

Test 100MHz at a time a 400 MHz is great jump

Did that last night....hmm.

So far stable at 9.5 x 421 for 7+ hours.

M@ster

03-24-2008, 06:24 AM

what is the max fsb that u can do with the P5E rampaged?

flywin

03-24-2008, 06:34 AM

hey evryone
i have a qestion

can i flash ASUS P5K-Deluxe to Rampage???

plz toturial step by step ;D

gurusan

03-24-2008, 06:36 AM

;2863620']I've read through (over the past few weeks) both Maximus Formula threads and this Rampage one. Nobody seems to know the DMM points for anything on this mobo and those that do know don't seem to want to share :(

Well the vDIMM point works. Set to 2.12 in bios, getting 2.22 via readpoint

bummer :( please someone tell us the vCore DMM

what is the max fsb that u can do with the P5E rampaged?

So far I have reached 460

hey evryone
i have a qestion

can i flash ASUS P5K-Deluxe to Rampage???

plz toturial step by step ;D

The P5K uses a completely different chipset (P35)...so it's not possible I'm afraid.

BigGaroupa

03-24-2008, 08:57 AM

Can the Asus maximus formula handle 2 x 4gb ddr2 ram (or more generally can the X38 do this)

See link for this ram

http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=7425

Kevin

I know it can do 4 x 2gb no problems (with the right bios)

I ran 4x2GB OCZ Reaper DDR2 800 no problems at default, past memtest.

Will be posting my new build soon I just completed it and it seems like it's stable at 3.6GHz, will try pushing RAM next.

Do you guys know why my system properties is show 2.39GHz in Vista 64, with CPUZ it's show 3600MHz like it's supposed to, I'm using 400x9.

ZenEffect

03-24-2008, 09:14 AM

well, the rampage bios has let me boot into windows at a higher mhz than ive done before on a maximus... granted its not stable in the slightest bit... but its over 100mhz faster than any other previous attempt

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/zzzzz.jpg

now to stabilize it enough for benchies :D

OCam

03-24-2008, 09:29 AM

Well. I did the flash and now am priming at 462x8, I dont have any comparisons as I was limited to 3.6gz 400fsb with MF0907 due to ram instability at more than 800mhz But my bandwith has gone up 2000mb/s on my write and copy bench. I am on PL 9 unfortunately :(
Also tho I do have all the options and the splash screen of the rampage, Everest and cpu-z still say Maximus. Probably some newer versions out there to fix that tho.
I hope I can get 3.8 for 24/7 with the rampage bios!
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa94/Lepeousbowels/462x8MRF.jpg

joe.denice

03-24-2008, 09:38 AM

Did that last night....hmm.

So far stable at 9.5 x 421 for 7+ hours.

What volts are you running in the chip?? and how are your temps??

zlojack

03-24-2008, 10:03 AM

ZenEffect

03-24-2008, 10:15 AM

once again...

TO AVOID ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EVEREST/SYTEM INFORMATION UTILITY NOT READING THE PROPER MOTHERBOARD, PLEASE DO A FRESH INSTALL OF THE OS.

not yelling, just wanted to make it noticable :)

*also*

anybody do teaming on the nic's? if so, is there a difference in say... in game ping?

rioja

03-24-2008, 10:56 AM

May i turn P5E3 into smth on X48, perhaps P5E3 Premium??

ZenEffect

03-24-2008, 10:58 AM

May i turn P5E3 into smth on X48, perhaps P5E3 Premium??

probably. :up:

rioja

03-24-2008, 11:01 AM

ZenEffect
But they have different layots. Actually I dont see full analouge of P5E3 on X48.

HellasVagabond

03-24-2008, 11:09 AM

Guys transaction Booster and AI clock Twister are not working with the RIPPER series...Unless you set them on Auto...Ideas ?

Amurtigress

03-24-2008, 12:27 PM

zlojack

03-24-2008, 12:29 PM

Amurtigress

03-24-2008, 12:33 PM

Thanks a bunch! Going through it.

loften

03-24-2008, 12:40 PM

Vcore is at 1.42v

Temps are 67 67 56 62 ---> I think I need to re-seat my Fuzion block, although I was getting strange temps with my TRUE as well. Same pattern, with cores 0 and 1 much higher than 2 and 3. Ambient is about 20-21 degrees, maybe 22. The IHS is uneven.

PLL is at minimum (1.5v) and FSBTerm is at 1.34v we ran into a problem like that.. the clip that holds the cpu in the mother board was warping the cover on the cpu. it was a lapped quad and was flat to begin with. after weird temps removed the cooler and could see where the clip warped it. used a razor blade edge.. removed the clip off the board, checked it again and it was flat. just used the back plate to hold the cpu and cooler to the mother board without the clip and it fixed the problem..

jakku

03-24-2008, 12:45 PM

How mutch can use CPU voltage for 24/7 ? 1.35v or 1.45v ? :confused:

ZenEffect

03-24-2008, 12:46 PM

ZenEffect
But they have different layots. Actually I dont see full analouge of P5E3 on X48.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160849&page=52

already been done :up:

newls1

03-24-2008, 12:50 PM

I would like to do this MOD on my Maximus Formula but just have 2 questions:
1. Will this work for a DDR2 motherboard?
2. What is the OCing potential with 8GB of ram (4x2gb sticks of g.skill PC8500)
Thanks

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 01:21 PM

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 01:26 PM

How mutch can use CPU voltage for 24/7 ? 1.35v or 1.45v ? :confused:

Intel recommends nothing higher than 1.45 for 24/7 use

gurusan

03-24-2008, 01:33 PM

Actually all you need is Everest 4.20.1307 or higher, 1307 sems to work very well with this board

I am running Everest 4.50.1330 and it's not reading my mobo name as a Rampage.

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 01:36 PM

Yeah I tried it when it came out the other day... 1307 works flawlessly

zlojack

03-24-2008, 01:36 PM

we ran into a problem like that.. the clip that holds the cpu in the mother board was warping the cover on the cpu. it was a lapped quad and was flat to begin with. after weird temps removed the cooler and could see where the clip warped it. used a razor blade edge.. removed the clip off the board, checked it again and it was flat. just used the back plate to hold the cpu and cooler to the mother board without the clip and it fixed the problem..
Hmm...interesting. So you removed the actualy CPU retention clip from the board. I should check that.

That said, my CPU's IHS is warped anyway. I checked it with a razor blade when I was doing the build.

ZenEffect

03-24-2008, 01:37 PM

Actually all you need is Everest 4.20.1307 or higher, 1307 sems to work very well with this board

i experienced a "unknown device"
and had no clue as to what it was because everything worked... reinstalled xp and it was gone :p:

XtremeTiramisu

03-24-2008, 01:41 PM

Hi,

I think someone here did it already, but I couldn't find any specific statement about it when I was skmming through the posts.

I am currently using a normal MF Rev. 1.03G board here.

Has anybody successfully crossflashed the Maximus with a Rampage BIOS?

If so, any issues? Anything special to be considered when doing that?

Which method did you use? Turn off the PC when flashing and then load a FORMULA.ROM renamed Rampage BIOS from a memory stick?

Anyway, infos welcome!

I've tried that method and unfortunately it didn't work. After you turned on your syste again to get auto bios crash recovery it would proceed to read the renamed RF02xx.rom as formula.rom. After reading procedure is completed you'll get an unable to proceed message due to different rom file from mf to rf ...AFUDOS is the only way. I thought this way could fool the system to flash to rf bios rom but it still identifies its original bios being diff.

AFUDOS is a little complicated for me so I'm still trying to figure out a way to flash using AFUDOS with a dos bootable USB stick. I did managed to make a bootable usb stick with afudos 2.36.exe file and rf0219 in the root directory and typed in the afudos /irf0219 /pnxx /xx i can't remember and it just keep on saying bad file name...any ideas guys?

Maglin

03-24-2008, 01:42 PM

Does teaming NIC's actually help even though you are on one router/cable connection? I wouldn't think it would as it would be putting more overhead on the router and cable modem.

zlojack

03-24-2008, 01:43 PM

Maybe you need to type out the full file name with .rom or .bin extension?

XtremeTiramisu

03-24-2008, 01:47 PM

Maybe you need to type out the full file name with .rom or .bin extension?

the full file name is RF0219.ROM
Maybe there is something I've missed so afudos doesn't work??

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 01:51 PM

the correct syntax is

afu236u /irf0219.rom /pbnc /n

assuming your using this version of AFUDOS

Not tried the Skew settings yet but when I get some time I'll give it a go. A few people have reported a minus Skew improved FSB/Ram clocking.

Could you please post your findings on this subject, still looking for any feel /difference when using it.

Jodiuh

03-24-2008, 02:01 PM

Would it affect latency at all?

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 02:02 PM

Has ne1 found a benifit to running skew off auto?

I have played with it for awhile now and I cant see/feel a difference no matter what I set it to, even benchmarks are so close I cant say if its having any effect

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0249-2.jpg

icecpu

03-24-2008, 02:28 PM

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 02:35 PM

yeah you can run 8.5 for 8400

HellasVagabond

03-24-2008, 02:45 PM

Thanks for ignoring my question you guys :)

Leeghoofd

03-24-2008, 02:55 PM

Ok guys, I need some advice here.

At 3.6 GHz 9x400 with 1.26v it's perfect and runs Prime95 all day and all night.

But once I try to bump it up toe 4.0 it just won't do it. I bumped the vcore up to 1.44v and still no love. I think that's a pretty good bump for 400 MHz, no?

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 Try AUTO or 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled Disable
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled (1)

CPU Voltage : 1.4125 (1.4 in CPUZ)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.34 -- AUTO -- seriously undervolts
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Try the above changes mate... be carefull Dram voltage overvolts 0.1, CPU PLL too, FSB termination voltage undervolts with my board...

Guys transaction Booster and AI clock Twister are not working with the RIPPER series...Unless you set them on Auto...Ideas ?

Ripper = Reaper ?

Why wouldn't it work with the OCZ Dimms ? you will need to give us more input on what settings you are using.. fill in the template plz...

Exentler

03-24-2008, 02:56 PM

thanks...

flashed two MF now to RF bios 219. works fine.

i testing the bios settings now.

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 03:03 PM

Perhaps your question was overlooked or misunderstood
I was under the impression it was REAPER not ripper
And you will have to supply more information than "not working unless set to auto"
What do you mean by not working????

HellasVagabond

03-24-2008, 03:05 PM

Yeap its the REAPER series.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 115
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-890
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 14
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 03:10 PM

that ram is rated 5-5-5-18 is it not?
you might want to relax the timing a bit
get trfc off auto 50 or 55 would be a good start.
NB volts will need more than auto will give it, 4GB is hard the NB I would start at 1.49 and adjust from there
FSBT 1.40
SB 1.050

Do you have 2x2GB or 4x1GB?

HellasVagabond

03-24-2008, 03:12 PM

2x2GB Kits.
And i had them at 5-5-5-18 and still it didnt work.....

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 03:14 PM

again what do you mean by dont work?

What does your lcd poster say?

HellasVagabond

03-24-2008, 03:17 PM

It just stays stuck in
IDENT DRAM
or something like that.

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 03:22 PM

so its not the ram its your bios settings
no biggie to fix

try this for starts

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Relax level: 0

XtremeTiramisu

03-24-2008, 03:23 PM

the correct syntax is

afu236u /irf0219.rom /pbnc /n

assuming your using this version of AFUDOS

Yes you're right. The file name is AFU236U and that's the version of the ES AFUDOS I've downloaded. I just realized that I was too anxious to get it to flash so I made a typo of 0218 instead of 0219...

Here is the full easy steps for "The dummies" to flash your maximus to rampage:

my mobo had 0602 BIOS originally. I flashed it to the latest beta mf1004 but it's still not fully stable at ~470FSB * 8 multi Q6600 G0. So I downgraded to mf0505 BIOS using the bios crash recovery renamed formula.rom fools method. Like KUP and a few others have suggested for the better stability with 0505 bios for quads; I don't find it to make much of an improvement for me for the past few days of testing. None of the mf bios I've tested could bench at 475FSB*8 multi Q6600 G0 with 333FSB strap and stable with newest v25.6 Prime "Blend" and even OCCT. However The CPU is much more stable up to ~3870mhz using *9 multi(less stress on the NB) and 400FSB strap tested with prime smallFFT. I hope the Rampage BIOS will give me 475FSB*8 prime/occt stable.
I personally don't think it matters which mf bios you've before you can flash to the rampage bios.

1. Please refer to the 1st page in this LINK (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179580) and read the procedures on how to make a DOS bootable USB flashdrive.

2. Download the latest RF BIOS as of today: RF0219 from this LINK (http://rapidshare.com/files/99518261/Rampage_Formula_219.zip)

3. Download v.2.36ES AFUDOS progra from this LINK (http://rapidshare.com/files/101778262/AFUDOS236-ENGINEERING_EDITION.zip.html)

4. Unzip both RF0219.rom file and AFU236U.EXE to the root directory of your DOS bootable ready USB flashdrive.

5. As with all bios flashes; revert your BIOS settings to default and reboot your system with the USB flashdrive sticked in.

6. Upon rebooting; press F8 while posting and select boot from your USB flashdrive.

7. Win98 screen splashes and you're in DOS mode with C:\>

8. Type the following and make sure you don't make a typo like I did from the screenshot:
C:\>AFU236U /IRF0219.rom /pbnc /n
*Note: NOT case sensitive.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/RF1.jpg

9. When finished...reboot system...select all settings to default in BIOS and reboot again. Do a full clear cmos procedure.

10. Congrats and good luck OC.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/RF2.jpg

*PS: Special thanks and credits to The Stilt and to rest of other curtious members for their kindly help.:up:

HellasVagabond

03-24-2008, 03:23 PM

so its not the ram its your bios settings
no biggie to fix

try this for starts

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Relax level: 0

Already tried that...Nada

ZenEffect

03-24-2008, 03:25 PM

setting skew to anything did not effect performance what so ever for me... running ram past 1200mhz, delay skew results in det ram error, advance skew has no effect except when set to highest value, it makes the system unstable.

my theory on this, its for 4gigs of ram and up for stability.

jakku

03-24-2008, 03:25 PM

So.. If I flash my Maximus Formula bios into Rampage Formula, if I don't like it, I can back to Maximus Formula bios ? Another one question.. Which one better Maximus or Rampage ? :shrug:

ZenEffect

03-24-2008, 03:26 PM

So.. If I flash my Maximus Formula bios into Rampage Formula, if I don't like it, I can back to Maximus Formula bios ? Another one question.. Which one better Maximus or Rampage ? :shrug:

depends on what you got, your processor... apparently the mf is better.

Expat GriZ

03-24-2008, 03:29 PM

Hello to one and all!! For a novice overclocker (noob) this site and threads are fantastic! Just wondering if anyone could please post their settings @ 4 ghz with the QX9650?? I've got 4 X 1 GB of OCZ Flex 1150, (not my first choice but a long ugly story with the Asus 780i) Currently using the Rampage 219 bios. No issues that I have noticed.

Thanks and great thread!!

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 03:31 PM

I would have to disagree with you on that.
The 8400 plays very very well on the Rampage bios
I would recommend it to anyone who owns a 8400 and a Maximus board

jakku

03-24-2008, 03:34 PM

I would have to disagree with you on that.
The 8400 plays very very well on the Rampage bios
I would recommend it to anyone who owns a 8400 and a Maximus board

But I can back to MF bios ? If I'm flashed RF ?

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 03:35 PM

yes

jakku

03-24-2008, 03:43 PM

Em.. I think 4GHz stable anought for me.. I don't need RF :rolleyes: maby later, with good reason.. ;)

OCam

03-24-2008, 04:16 PM

HellasVagabond, try
PCI freq: 105
FSB strap: 400
row refresh cycle time : 40-60
transaction booster: disable relax 0
cpu pll: 1.54-58
NB: 1.55-1.61
FSB termination :1.44-1.5
cpu gtl: x.63
NB gtl: x.67

ZenEffect

03-24-2008, 04:21 PM

I would have to disagree with you on that.
The 8400 plays very very well on the Rampage bios
I would recommend it to anyone who owns a 8400 and a Maximus board

i thought you said you preferred mf1004?

im probably mistaken...

zlojack

03-24-2008, 04:24 PM

Try the above changes mate... be carefull Dram voltage overvolts 0.1, CPU PLL too, FSB termination voltage undervolts with my board...

Thanks!

I left Prime95 running and it's stable 18 hours, so that's pretty good. 9.5 x 421 to get to 4Ghz.

I'm still concerned about temps as the hotter core pair got above 65 degrees and even went as high as 70 a few times (judging from my CoreTemp log)

Now I'm going to re-seat the Fuzion and see if it has any effect... maybe I used too much TIM.

The other possibility is that I used the Thermalright Ultra-120 backplate so maybe the block isn't as tight as it should be against the CPU. I might have to put the Fuzion one back in there. (That wouldn't be until I get my SB and Mosfet blocks in and dismount the board)

EDIT: Looks like it was the mounting! I think I went overboard on the TIM (that's why you shouldn't mount a CPU when it's 4AM!)

Idle and load temps are down by about 4-5. Still a discrepancy across the cores, even though the CPU isn't that uneven (I checked it again).

Grnfinger

03-24-2008, 04:34 PM

i thought you said you preferred mf1004?

im probably mistaken...

Initially in my first few days of testing, I did say that. I found little difference using the basic bios settings.
But after some tweaking and learning the new bios settings I can say RAMPAGE all the way. You just need to take some time and learn how your hardware will play with the new bios

ZenEffect

03-24-2008, 04:56 PM

Initially in my first few days of testing, I did say that. I found little difference using the basic bios settings.
But after some tweaking and learning the new bios settings I can say RAMPAGE all the way. You just need to take some time and learn how your hardware will play with the new bios

id have to agree that the rampage bios is a nice upgrade over maximus. :yepp:

ericab

03-24-2008, 05:00 PM

so does anyone have any answers about NIC teaming on the maximus??

ive been trying to get it to work today on my maximus, with no luck so far...

:confused: :confused:

ZenEffect

03-24-2008, 05:30 PM

so does anyone have any answers about NIC teaming on the maximus??

ive been trying to get it to work today on my maximus, with no luck so far...

:confused: :confused:

its somewhere in the marvel miniport install files... i have yet to try it but im interested in its effects on a cable modem + router... that is if it has any at all.

ericab

03-24-2008, 05:49 PM

here is the Marvell Control Panel Applet for VLAN and Link Aggregation:

http://www.marvell.com/drivers/driverDisplay.do?dId=150&pId=1

installed it; created a team under the teaming tab; still unsure if its working.

id suggest grabbin a copy of the latest yukon drivers.
version 10.55.3.3
(not on asus's site)

*edit*
here are the inf updates for version 10.55.3.3:
http://www.marvell.com/drivers/driverDisplay.do?dId=103&pId=3

filename is: yk51x86_v10.55.3.3.zip

*edit2*
here are generic teaming install instructions from another forum:
------------------------------------------
Download the latest drivers for your NIC(s) and install them.

You should remove the cable from your NICs, the IP addresses. Team the cards, you will probably want to set them up as SLA.

The driver will create a virtual nic called Teaming, this is the NIC that grabs the IP but requires you to plug both NICs into your LAN.

zlojack

03-24-2008, 05:59 PM

I just did it. I'm in!

Time to start playing...

ericab

03-24-2008, 06:07 PM

I just did it. I'm in!

Time to start playing...

did what ? MF --> RF ?

XtremeTiramisu

03-24-2008, 06:17 PM

Here is the full easy steps for "The dummies" to flash your maximus to rampage:

my mobo had 0602 BIOS originally. I flashed it to the latest beta mf1004 but it's still not fully stable at ~470FSB * 8 multi Q6600 G0. So I downgraded to mf0505 BIOS using the bios crash recovery renamed formula.rom fools method. Like KUP and a few others have suggested for the better stability with 0505 bios for quads; I don't find it to make much of an improvement for me for the past few days of testing. None of the mf bios I've tested could bench at 475FSB*8 multi Q6600 G0 with 333FSB strap and stable with newest v25.6 Prime "Blend" and even OCCT. However The CPU is much more stable up to ~3870mhz using *9 multi(less stress on the NB) and 400FSB strap tested with prime smallFFT. I hope the Rampage BIOS will give me 475FSB*8 prime/occt stable.
I personally don't think it matters which mf bios you've before you can flash to the rampage bios.

1. Please refer to the 1st page in this LINK (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179580) and read the procedures on how to make a DOS bootable USB flashdrive.

2. Download the latest RF BIOS as of today: RF0219 from this LINK (http://rapidshare.com/files/99518261/Rampage_Formula_219.zip)

3. Download v.2.36ES AFUDOS progra from this LINK (http://rapidshare.com/files/101778262/AFUDOS236-ENGINEERING_EDITION.zip.html)

4. Unzip both RF0219.rom file and AFU236U.EXE to the root directory of your DOS bootable ready USB flashdrive.

5. As with all bios flashes; revert your BIOS settings to default and reboot your system with the USB flashdrive sticked in.

6. Upon rebooting; press F8 while posting and select boot from your USB flashdrive.

7. Win98 screen splashes and you're in DOS mode with C:\>

8. Type the following and make sure you don't make a typo like I did from the screenshot:
C:\>AFU236U /IRF0219.rom /pbnc /n
*Note: NOT case sensitive.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/RF1.jpg

9. When finished...reboot system...select all settings to default in BIOS and reboot again. Do a full clear cmos procedure.

10. Congrats and good luck OC.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/iamtiramisu/RF2.jpg

*PS: Special thanks and credits to The Stilt and to rest of other curtious members for their kindly help.:up: