The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Renegade5399]

Trans Booster only works with the 333 and 400 settings for me. Any others and I get DET DRAM hang. I also run my NB voltage higher. 1.67v or so with water cooling.

[ZenEffect]

Trans Booster only works with the 333 and 400 settings. Any others and I get DET DRAM hang. I also run my NB voltage higher. 1.67v or so with water cooling.
giorgos th. is using a 266 strap according to his pics... i think it varies board to board.

[Renegade5399]

Edited my post. I left out 2 very important words: "for me".

My bad.

Keep in mind I am running 4x1GB sticks of 1066 (OCZ and Crucial) at 5-5-5-15 with Perf. lvl. set to 7. I am rather impressed overall.

[Titus]

I just checked CPU-Z and my memory settings look strange...why do JDEC #1, JDEC #2 and EPP #1 all have different timings and voltages?...shouldn't they all be the same/matching?...or is that normal?

also in the 2nd screenshot is the FSB.DRAM supposed to be running at 5:6?

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/1454/1454737-100x100-3cdc081b36583e20891838c30eac2983.jpg (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=1454737&showlnk=0) http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/1454/1454748-100x100-2131244bb7e6dd723aa804c044461206.jpg (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=1454748&showlnk=0)

[Darkstormz]

Yeah, you guys run lower NB voltage, I cant seem to get 8GB any lower than 1.61v-1.63v

Thanks for the info, I will see what I can do with it.

what strap + PL ?

I run PL 7 - 333 Strap - NB 1.55v @ 8x458
Using 4x2GB Corsair PC8500 @ 550MHz DDR1100 - CL 5-5-3-13-2 tRFC 50

[giorgos th.]

giorgos th. is using a 266 strap according to his pics... i think it varies board to board.

dont bare in mind my strap cause i work with 400fsb..:)

[ZenEffect]

I just checked CPU-Z and my memory settings look strange...why do JDEC #1, JDEC #2 and EPP #1 all have different timings and voltages?...shouldn't they all be the same/matching?...or is that normal?

also in the 2nd screenshot is the FSB.DRAM supposed to be running at 5:6?

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/1454/1454737-100x100-3cdc081b36583e20891838c30eac2983.jpg (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=1454737&showlnk=0) http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/1454/1454748-100x100-2131244bb7e6dd723aa804c044461206.jpg (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=1454748&showlnk=0)

it is normal, those are the programmed profiles in the ram. the 5:6 is normal too.

[ChaosMinionX]

what strap + PL ?

I run PL 7 - 333 Strap - NB 1.55v @ 8x458
Using 4x2GB Corsair PC8500 @ 550MHz DDR1100 - CL 5-5-3-13-2 tRFC 50

333mhz PL7 - 1.63v 8x465

[ericab]

most people are posting settings for memory @ pc8500;

i wish i could attain those levels but im using pc6400.

who has good settings for ballistix 6400 ?

[ante_ante]

Flashed back to 0214 and now i finally can boot at 450x9,5 again. Found a solution also for my auto vcore, reset bios to default and change vcore from auto to like 1.125 and rebooted. Now i can boot with any vcore i will. Simple problem but hard to find sometimes :)

Running at PL7 right now ......

[Grnfinger]

Has ne1 bothered with the comparison that Zucker2k was asking for yet?
If not I will try it after a fresh beverage

[ZenEffect]

i could probably swap in some ocz 6400's from my gf's computer to test and have a go at those settings...

[ericab]

i could probably swap in some ocz 6400's from my gf's computer to test and have a go at those settings...

nah man thats too much trouble for you; i was just hoping someone around these parts had the same ram as me...

i think i need to get some ballistix 8500's :rolleyes: :D

[HempHog]

Flashed 0219 from 1004
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6541/stablepq7.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stablepq7.jpg)

E6750 - CRUCIAL BALLISTAX 8500

I have a set of patriot 9600's that I will try out next, they were quite stable with the formula bios.

[Titus]

so what is my actual memory voltage, 2.1v or 1.8v?...in PC Probe my DRAM voltage shows as 1.98v but CPU-Z shows 2 other voltages

[ZenEffect]

nah man thats too much trouble for you; i was just hoping someone around these parts had the same ram as me...

i think i need to get some ballistix 8500's :rolleyes: :D

im actually going to pick up some ballistix 8500's in a hour or so :p:

[ZenEffect]

so what is my actual memory voltage, 2.1v or 1.8v?...in PC Probe my DRAM voltage shows as 1.98v but CPU-Z shows 2 other voltages

cpu-z is showing "suggested" timings at those voltages, it is not what is actually set. pcprobe is not what i would call "accurate" but 1.98v is what your ram is at.

[giorgos th.]

25mhz more on the fsb and the mobo is skyrocketed....
i wish i had an 8500 to test higher...

[ericab]

im actually going to pick up some ballistix 8500's in a hour or so :p:

grab me a few? :ROTF:

here are my updated numbers...making good progress here.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2410/cachemem3rp0.th.png (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cachemem3rp0.png)

[miptzi]

Either you got a dud mobo or some other hardware is hindering ya OC, really 3ghz is a no brainer...

Secondly you give us very little input here, I too can tell ya my cat is sick and... what can you do about it ?....

We need a full list of ya hardware, bios version used, fill in the template of the bios, temps you are getting...

thanks for your time

man, I can't believe. I've got 3.4ghz! in 10 seconds!

I was thinking that was needed to set all that strange parameters to get anything, like all of you listed in yours settings.
But so I "pretended" it was an ABIT, and made simple:

set FSB to 378x9
FSB STrap 400mhz
Vcore 1.375
all the rest on AUTO!
my BIOS is 505

just it! It's holding fine! got 5150 CPU score on 3dmark06,
and the temps are below 35ºC Idle
just can't raise the memos, but it was a nice start!

[Titus]

cpu-z is showing "suggested" timings at those voltages, it is not what is actually set. pcprobe is not what i would call "accurate" but 1.98v is what your ram is at.

thanks for the knowledge :up:

[kevinali]

Does anyone know what the curing time is for a "fresh application" of artic silver 5

By curing time, i mean when does artic silver show its benefits

Kevin

[3BABY]

@ giorgos th. , whats your max fsb you've managed to attain with your processor?

i cant get anything semi stable over 430 and 440 is so unstable its not funny and thats with 266 strap and its just raping my ram for MHz, no other straps will work over 430ish for me :confused:

this pic was with MF Bios, but have flashed to RF 219 nw, but still nothing very stable over 430. anybody got any ideas, i thought 450fsbQC was supposed to be a piece of cake with this board!!?

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7337/43478128eh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[ZenEffect]

@ giorgos th. , whats your max fsb you've managed to attain with your processor?

i cant get anything semi stable over 430 and 440 is so unstable its not funny and thats with 266 strap and its just raping my ram for MHz, no other straps will work over 430ish for me :confused:

this pic was with MF Bios, but have flashed to RF 219 nw, but still nothing very stable over 430. anybody got any ideas, i thought 450fsbQC was supposed to be a piece of cake with this board!!?

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7337/43478128eh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

we need more settings than what your screenshots show to see what you can do to get more performance

[ericab]

i believe its 60 to 70 hours of computer usage time

[ChaosMinionX]

we need more settings than what your screenshots show to see what you can do to get more performance

Hes running 2:3.... switch to 5:6 Rampage with Transaction Booster doesnt work well with 2:3.

[giorgos th.]

i`m working 2:3 with booster - 400fsb and its the fastest combination i`ve tried so far..

3BABY both of the QXs i`m testing (L739-L740) went ~445fsb on air.

[Sources]

DAMN IT !
one of my crucials just POOPED on me last night.

[3BABY]

Had feeling id get asked that, ive tryed everyhting under the sun for more fsb but the real problem is it doesnt like straps of 333 or 400, will only post at 266, at work atm but here is what i remember. with MF bios, RF or MF aside still nothing past 440, yea voltage mite be a lil on the high side on a few things, will run them down when its getting higher fsbs, ram timings and lats all auto till i can get some fsb stability, another thing is it will hang at DET RAM if the following is not like this:

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled

heres the rest

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 430-440
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100-110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- Auto (doesnt like anything else)
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.3750 (ranged for 3.5-4.1 NA really)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.68ish
North Bridge Voltage : 1.68
DRAM Voltage : 2.46
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.6ish
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage :
SB 1.5V Voltage :

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Sorry giorgos th. i dont have the LXXX number on me at the moment, but i havent been able to get this QX posting any higher then 444.

[ZenEffect]

what is your ram rated at voltage wise? those volts are nuts! the maximus over-volts the dram alot. you are probably running 2.55-56 volts right there. :shocked: TURN THAT DOWN RIGHT NOW! the ram i use is rated 2.35 and i set it at 2.26 in bios which gives me 2.35 exactly *real volts*

[Titus]

is there a freeware program that shows all or most of your memory timings...CPU-Z shows some of them but I want a listing of more...settings in my BIOS are at 'Auto' so I want to see what values 'Auto' assigns

[NBK]

is there a freeware program that shows all or most of your memory timings...CPU-Z shows some of them but I want a listing of more...settings in my BIOS are at 'Auto' so I want to see what values 'Auto' assigns

Hi Titus,

memset will do it!

We either have incompatible RAM or a bad motherboard!!!!!

NBK

[ZenEffect]

Hi Titus,

memset will do it!

We either have incompatible RAM or a bad motherboard!!!!!

NBK

here is the link if you are lazy

http://www.tweakers.fr/download/MemSet35beta.exe

[3BABY]

lol yea, as i said before voltages arent the issue and killing the hardware well..uno.. overvoltage in mind even, running kingston HyperX KHX9600D2K2 2.3-2.35V ranning at 1320+ what ram ddr2 dusnt like a few more volts. have some Ballistx 8500 and some other bits and pieces to play with..

[ZenEffect]

lol yea, as i said before voltages arent the issue and killing the hardware well..uno.. overvoltage in mind even, running kingston HyperX KHX9600D2K2 2.3-2.35V ranning at 1320+ what ram ddr2 dusnt like a few more volts. have some Ballistx 8500 and some other bits and pieces to play with..

you should start your testing then by swapping out your ram to the ballistix and see if that is what is causing the problems. also what bios are you on and which have you tried?

[Mentaly]

Hi

Well I just puped 4 ballistix 1gig sticks 6400 with D9 in my Maximus so now its going in the trash can, just too much hazzle put back my P5K now everything is running smooth :), maximus is a nice mobo but just too much work.... Menty

[3BABY]

you should start your testing then by swapping out your ram to the ballistix and see if that is what is causing the problems. also what bios are you on and which have you tried?

yea have tryed the Ballistix but not much luck either, also the ballistix wont reach 1300, and for some reason if the ram cant get to 1300 the bios wont try anything lower (even with Auto) and it will just DETRAM hang, have run MF0907 & 1004, and RF0219, understandabily with the RF bios it gives better ram dividers that lower the ddr speed a lil, but still cant get the high fsb's. really got me stuck this one huh

[Titus]

Hi Titus,

memset will do it!


here is the link if you are lazy

http://www.tweakers.fr/download/MemSet35beta.exe

I get an error message when I try to run it...

[teko]

I just updated to the 0907 bios on asus's page, and now my CPU temp in everest dropped from around 40 degrees to around 20 :o Anyone got any idea why, or is it just the 0907 bios thats flawed?
And, the 1003 bios in this thread is a beta version I guess?

[Grnfinger]

I just updated to the 0907 bios on asus's page, and now my CPU temp in everest dropped from around 40 degrees to around 20 :o Anyone got any idea why, or is it just the 0907 bios thats flawed?
And, the 1003 bios in this thread is a beta version I guess?

Yes 907 temps are way off, 1003 is acurate but I would recommend 1004, much bette bios imo.
Kup however recommends 505 for quad core, better clocks, improved stability.

[teko]

Yes, I saw that recomendation :) but how is 505 bios with 4*1GB mem?

[Titus]

anyone else experiencing random lock ups during boot?...I'm using BIOS 0907 and every few times it just hangs on the boot screen right after it detects the memory as being OK...I can use the keyboard to hit the delete key and it shows "Entering BIOS" on the boot screen but it never goes past this screen...I have to hit the Reset key a few times for it to boot up properly...is this a problem with this BIOS?

I played around with my memory timings and things have gotten much better...I manually set the timings to 4-4-4-12 (G.Skill rated specs) from their default settings of 5-5-5-15...also manually changed the tRC setting from 'Auto' to 35...I left the DRAM voltage at 'Auto' which according to PC Probe II is set at 1.98V

[Durkadurka]

Do you have to reinstall Vista when going from MF0907 to RF0219 ?

Oh, and another thing. If I keep my OC Profile 1, I can use that if I wanna go back to MF0907 right?

[ChaosMinionX]

yea have tryed the Ballistix but not much luck either, also the ballistix wont reach 1300, and for some reason if the ram cant get to 1300 the bios wont try anything lower (even with Auto) and it will just DETRAM hang, have run MF0907 & 1004, and RF0219, understandabily with the RF bios it gives better ram dividers that lower the ddr speed a lil, but still cant get the high fsb's. really got me stuck this one huh

The Rampage Formula with its adv ram tweaking under the transaction booster does not like 266 divider, use 333/400 and go from there. No matter how much voltage you give it, it will not use 266 from my testing.

[ZenEffect]

so im testing some crucial ballistix pc-8500 right now and im quite disappointed :(
ill give it a bit more testing but things are not looking up

*edit*

im back to the mushkin memory. these crucial modules are junk, the mushkin hp-2 pc8500 are way better *tighter sub timings too*

i will be returning them tomorrow, as for now...
MORE OVERCLOCKS!!!!

[Durkadurka]

Do you have to reinstall Vista when going from MF0907 to RF0219 ?

Oh, and another thing. If I keep my OC Profile 1, I can use that if I wanna go back to MF0907 right?

Vista didn't need a reinstall, but my OC Profiles was erased when flashing RF0219.

[ZenEffect]

also another thing ive noticed running between straps and playing while playing with new memory is when i set the fsb strap to 400, the l2 cache improved latency by .2ns, i dont know if bandwidth increased because i forgot to note that, but im pretty sure it did as well.

just my 2 cents :up:

*edit*
durkadurka, what timings and volts would you recommend for the ballistix pc-8500 in a 2 1gb module configuration? ive got 2 gigs right in front of me now

[ericab]

zen,

so you dont like the crucial 8500's ?
damn too bad i was planning on grabbing a set of them for my upgrade. oh well..
i may go for those mushkins you got there, seeing as ive used mushkin many times before, and i never had a problem.

can you hook me up with a link to where you bought them ?

[ZenEffect]

I played around with my memory timings and things have gotten much better...I manually set the timings to 4-4-4-12 (G.Skill rated specs) from their default settings of 5-5-5-15...also manually changed the tRC setting from 'Auto' to 35...I left the DRAM voltage at 'Auto' which according to PC Probe II is set at 1.98V

you should really set it to about 1.9 and re-check your volts again to see exactly how much it over volts. not only is this information good to know, but the word "AUTO" scares the shistuffingst out of me when it comes to asus + voltage. once you know how much it over volts, correct your voltage once again in bios with the adjusted value you just figured out to the factory spec. you could probably squeeze more mhz out of your ram by relaxing your timings on ram, going beyond factory spec on voltage to the ram modules, or a combination of both... in my experience i cant do this by having the voltage on auto.

[ericab]

@Sources:

damn that sucks! i cant believe your stick died seeing that your only pulling 912mhz and pushing 2.12 volts! i have the balistix and im pushing 2.26 volts @ 560MHz, mabye i should take a lesson from you ? :/

@Teko:

i had some nb/sb reading problems when i updated to the maximus rampage bios. a simple FULL uninstall and reinstall of everest fixed the problem. (make sure you backup your "Everest.ini" file before you do it if you have any custom settings...)
also, why not try the rampage bios ? everyone's been having amazing results...

[Titus]

you should really set it to about 1.9 and re-check your volts again to see exactly how much it over volts. not only is this information good to know, but the word "AUTO" scares the shistuffingst out of me when it comes to asus + voltage. once you know how much it over volts, correct your voltage once again in bios with the adjusted value you just figured out to the factory spec. you could probably squeeze more mhz out of your ram by relaxing your timings on ram, going beyond factory spec on voltage to the ram modules, or a combination of both... in my experience i cant do this by having the voltage on auto.

manually changed the DRAM Voltage to 1.90 and PC Probe still shows the same value of 1.98V...I then went back to the BIOS and lowered even further to 1.86V...PC Probe now shows a DRAM value of 1.94-1.95V (fluctuates back and forth)...so it looks like this board overvolts by .08 to .09...can I keep lowering the voltage or is it fine to leave it at 1.86 (1.95 actual)?

in the BIOS there are 2 other memory options called DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage and DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage...both are set to Auto right now...do I need to change those as well?

[ZenEffect]

zen,

so you dont like the crucial 8500's ?
damn too bad i was planning on grabbing a set of them for my upgrade. oh well..
i may go for those mushkins you got there, seeing as ive used mushkin many times before, and i never had a problem.

can you hook me up with a link to where you bought them ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146720
when i got them they had a 45 dollar mail in rebate and a 10 dollar instant rebate

i will probably test some pc-8500 dominators or some kingston hyper-x tomorrow :D

[ZenEffect]

manually changed the DRAM Voltage to 1.90 and PC Probe still shows the same value of 1.98V...I then went back to the BIOS and lowered even further to 1.86V...PC Probe now shows a DRAM value of 1.94-1.95V (fluctuates back and forth)...so it looks like this board overvolts by .08 to .09...can I keep lowering the voltage or is it fine to leave it at 1.86 (1.95 actual)?

in the BIOS there are 2 other memory options called DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage and DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage...both are set to Auto right now...do I need to change those as well?

keep adjusting the volts till its at factory spec in pc probe. leaving those 2 to auto is ok.

[Titus]

keep adjusting the volts till its at factory spec in pc probe. leaving those 2 to auto is ok.

factory specs meaning 2.0-2.1V?

http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view.php?id=g_ddr2&no=98

that would mean raising the voltage from where it's at now...I thought having a lower DRAM voltage was better?...I thought the voltage listed on the manufacturer's website was the max recommended voltage?...or is the listed 2.0-2.1 the optimal voltage?

[ZenEffect]

factory specs meaning 2.0-2.1V?

http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view.php?id=g_ddr2&no=98

that would mean raising the voltage from where it's at now...I thought having a lower voltage was better?...I thought the voltage listed on the manufacturer's website was the max recommended voltage?...or is the listed 2.0-2.1 the optimal voltage?

you are right but you need to test stability first with memtest, then start lowering volts and retesting :up:

[Titus]

you are right but you need to test stability first with memtest, then start lowering volts and retesting :up:

I ran OCCT for an hour with the slider set all the way to RAM at the current 1.86V BIOS setting and everything was stable...will run Memtest later tonight for a few hours

is there a minimum voltage I should not go past because I want to make sure not to undervolt as well...what is the absolute minimum DRAM voltage?

[ZenEffect]

I ran OCCT for an hour with the slider set all the way to RAM at the current 1.86V BIOS setting and everything was stable...will run Memtest later tonight for a few hours

is there a minimum voltage I should not go past because I want to make sure not to undervolt as well...what is the absolute minimum DRAM voltage?

0 :up:

but really... i guess you would have to call the manufacturer as there is too much involved to even begin to guess. i would just lower them until it becomes unstable then set it at the lowest stable voltage.

[Yay for Cheese]

Is the 1004 bios more stable than 907? I can't seem to get stable on anything higher than 3.8 on my e8400.

[teko]

@Teko:

i had some nb/sb reading problems when i updated to the maximus rampage bios. a simple FULL uninstall and reinstall of everest fixed the problem. (make sure you backup your "Everest.ini" file before you do it if you have any custom settings...)
also, why not try the rampage bios ? everyone's been having amazing results...

The 1004 isn't the rampage bios is it? On the ASUS forums they sem to have all sorts of problems with the 1004, but might be an idea to try it :) Not going to use the rampage, as I don't want to loose waranty on the mobo, not sure I'll get another one for a 100$ ;)

[Leeghoofd]

Not Rampage bios but 1004 bios for Maximus Formula... works fine here with Q6600 and QX9650... with my usual settings and TRFC has again a wider range like with 1003 better for 2gig dimms...

[zlojack]

So we've seen lower vcore, better bandwidth, more tweakings so far from this switch?

Maybe we should compile a list of the benefits brought about by the change.

[Grnfinger]

@Cheese

I found 1004 excellent for 8400 chips. I would recommend it for sure

[Grnfinger]

I have yet to see "better" bandwidth but volts are lower for sure.
Lots more options tho.
I'm gonna bounce back to MF 1004 and to a head to head today.
I'm beginning to feel ther is zero benifit from making the switch. Just more headaches

[zlojack]

Well, lower volts would be nice right there, especially for 24/7 on Penryn chips. If you can use lower volts, you can theoretically get higher clocks.

[Grnfinger]

Anyone have Asus aacenter running in there task manager?
Mine seems to be sucking up 50% of my CPU today for some reason, wich is having an effect on Everest, mobo temp is a cool 131 celcius lol

[Renegade5399]

Hoo ray for DDR2 1066 Ballistix Tracers being total :banana::banana::banana::banana:! I just had another stick die on me, it was at 2.22v. This will be the 3rd RMA for this set. I will be selling these and getting something else.

[Renegade5399]

Hey guys, guess what? My 1066 tracers died again! Yay, I love RMAs! Once I get these back, they will be sold.

Now what to get guys? It has to be 1066 minimum that can do 1200. The 1200 kits look nice as well. 2x1GB preferred. Suggestions?

[SWFLTrader]

Yes, I saw that recomendation :) but how is 505 bios with 4*1GB mem?

I'm using 0602 with Q6600 and 8Gig ram and it works better for me than the later bios versions, also used 0505 on previous board and it worked great with 4x1 gig sticks, I actually hit 1200mhz ram with 4x1gig sticks with the 0505 bios on a previous board before I messed it up by going to 0907 :down:

If you can, try to stay with the 0505 or 0602 bios when using the Q6600.

[icecpu]

Hoo ray for DDR2 1066 Ballistix Tracers being total :banana::banana::banana::banana:! I just had another stick die on me, it was at 2.22v. This will be the 3rd RMA for this set. I will be selling these and getting something else.


Ok , I have Ballistix 8500 also at v2.27
What are the signs that we can know it's a dead ram ??
Just for reference in case my ram die in the future, thanks

[Zucker2k]

@ Grnfinger. Bothered running those settings? Results? Or you're moving back to MF 1004?

[Renegade5399]

Ok , I have Ballistix 8500 also at v2.27
What are the signs that we can know it's a dead ram ??
Just for reference in case my ram die in the future, thanks

Windows errors, F@H errors, and finally no POST. 1 stick completely died on me. It looks like an unstable overclock at first. But you know it's the RAM cause it will give errors in memtest even at stock.

[ZenEffect]

Hey guys, guess what? My 1066 tracers died again! Yay, I love RMAs! Once I get these back, they will be sold.

Now what to get guys? It has to be 1066 minimum that can do 1200. The 1200 kits look nice as well. 2x1GB preferred. Suggestions?

mushkin hp-2 8500's
i love this ram, right now im running @ 1200
ram is rated to 1.35v and i a/b'd them against crucial ballistix pc-8500 *not tracers* and the mushkin pwned.
im probably going to test some kingston hyper-x today so i will let you know how that goes.


I have yet to see "better" bandwidth but volts are lower for sure.
Lots more options tho.
I'm gonna bounce back to MF 1004 and to a head to head today.
I'm beginning to feel ther is zero benifit from making the switch. Just more headaches

odd, im feeling the exact opposite... but then again the only thing we have in common is the motherboard. ive experienced better bandwidth (rampage lets me overclock the mushkins to 1200 memtest stable pl6 while the maximus only allowed 1165 pl7) lower volts, alot lower actually which resulted in a higher 24/7 overclock to 4ghz now 24/7 usage 1.464 volts 8hrs prime95 small ffts before i killed it to play some games... and stupid me forgot to take screen shots but i plan to get prime stable with good volts at 450 fsb as im at 445 now. i can get 2 hours prime before core #2 throws an error. so i think i need 1.5 volts as i tested it at 1.49 for 450fsb.

[MaXXimus]

Any recommendations would be appreciated... I have the QX9650 and these settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : This option is not available to me under 0907
CPU Ratio Control : Also not available
- Ratio CMOS Setting : Also not available
CPU Ratio: 9
FSB Frequency : 366
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-8500 @ 975
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.3
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45
DRAM Voltage : 2.0
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled


Anyone clue me in on the differances between the 0907 Im running now and the 1004? Not sure if I should be happy with this BIOS or what if any benefits I might see with going with the 1004. And what about reverting back if I had any issues?

Under load Im seeing temps (using stock air cooler) of 67c - 70c on all cores. Ran OCCT for 1hr and Prime 1hr... not trying to push this too much on air, because within a couple weeks my case should be in and everything will be LC.

[HousERaT]

Has anyone tried AISUITE with the 1004 bios yet? Does it work?

[ZenEffect]

Has anyone tried AISUITE with the 1004 bios yet? Does it work?

the only time i ever got aisuite to work was when i took the mobo out of the box for the first time and fired it up. ever since my 1st bios update, it has always crashed, even after completely reloading a fresh install.

[RobotDJX]

yes same here

[Renegade5399]

mushkin hp-2 8500's
i love this ram, right now im running @ 1200
ram is rated to 1.35v and i a/b'd them against crucial ballistix pc-8500 *not tracers* and the mushkin pwned.
im probably going to test some kingston hyper-x today so i will let you know how that goes.


Are those the blue or black ones? You have a newegg link?

[ZenEffect]

Are those the blue or black ones? You have a newegg link?
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146720
they are the blue ones, but if you have the cash, get the extremes. they are the black ones.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146677

i got the blue *hp* modules because they were on special and had a $45 mail in rebate to bring the price to 45 bucks for 2 gigs... but i might pick up a set of these since i am looking for new ram.

[ante_ante]

Anyone have a link to bios 0217 bios ?? Got plenty of hangs today, when i tried to send some stuff over msn.

[kup]

Anyone have a link to bios 0217 bios ?? Got plenty of hangs today, when i tried to send some stuff over msn.

Don't think there is a 0217? I've seen 0214 and 0219?

[Titus]

I noticed that the Maximus Formula has no tRC memory timing setting in the BIOS...I almost got tRFC confused with tRC in the BIOS and set tRFC to 35 thinking it was tRC...is there no tRC setting for me due to the G.Skill memory?...are the timings that show up in the BIOS dependant on what kind of memory/manufacturer you have?


0 :up:

but really... i guess you would have to call the manufacturer as there is too much involved to even begin to guess. i would just lower them until it becomes unstable then set it at the lowest stable voltage.

my guess would be 1.8V as that's the nominal DDR2 voltage

[Spyrus]

Yeap no 0217 and please do not go off topic for those about discussing for memories.

[ZenEffect]

interesting... i cant set performance level to 7 manually with pull ins disabled, setting to 6 causes a det ram error, putting it to 8 i can post and all is stable. enabling pull ins i can get pl6 at cas5 and pl5 at cas4. it appears that one has to apply the anandtech formula as it seems to be correct after plugging in all the numbers. there is no real guessing at this when the rules of the article are applied and you know your hardware, its just a matter of figuring out to turn on or off pull ins which im pretty sure is one way or the other dependant on strap. we should really read back through this and compile a table of sorts.

NEED MORE SCREEN SHOTS

[Shoty]

I just got home from work, I had to leave early cause I'm (cough cough) sick :rofl:

Going to test some clocks and redo OS, still have the web pages wont refresh issue and Everest is being a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: not reporting any ram info.
I installed some MS web :banana::banana::banana::banana: via an update yesterday so that might be the cause of the web pages problem.
CPUZ reports everything so I might just need a new version of everest.

Going to post the main setup bios screen and maybe some pll can helpl with some ram settings


please setting bios

[Grnfinger]

Just flashed back to MF bios 1004. When I first tried this bios some days back, all overclocks reverted to stock on post. This time around, it works!

Anyway, this is 8x495, 8x498, 8x500 (E8400), with 1.51 VNB, PL7

8x505 1.55 VNB PL7

Edit: Full ram settings: 5-5-5-15-3-35-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-4-6

Could someone run this identical settings in RF and let's see what the difference could possibly be? Thanks.

I copied ALL your settings

I set Clock Twister to Stronger, Dram Static To AUTO, PL = 7
So lets Compare

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/TEST1_495.png

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/TEST2_498.png

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/TEST3_500.png

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/TEST4_505.png

Why does my L2 Cache suck ass compared to yours?

[Grnfinger]

Double post alert

Looks like teh Rampage is slightly faster

( compare with Zucker2k using MF settings on page 18 )

[Grnfinger]

please setting bios

Using bios 1004 here is are my 4.32GHz settings

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 480
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1153
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.3875
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[XtremeTiramisu]

Fantastic OC 4.32GHz on water at 1.3875 Vcore bios set. Thx for sharing.
The template is using 1004 Bios right?
Your sig shows you've updated the Bios to Rampage Formula SE Bios 0219.

[Grnfinger]

Correct that is my Maximus 1004 bios settings

[HousERaT]

the only time i ever got aisuite to work was when i took the mobo out of the box for the first time and fired it up. ever since my 1st bios update, it has always crashed, even after completely reloading a fresh install.



yes same here
Does this mean you both tried it with the 1004 bios and it failed?

[Spyrus]

Faster for me is PL8/Phases Enabled that PL7/Phases disabled.
But i cannot use PL7/Phases enabled due to CAS 5 limitation at 450@5:6@540

[Shoty]

[QUOTE=Grnfinger;2845316]Using bios 1004 here is are my 4.32GHz settings

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 480
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1153
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.3875
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5[/QUOTE


thanks

[Zucker2k]

Double post alert

Looks like teh Rampage is slightly faster

( compare with Zucker2k using MF settings on page 18 )

@ Grnfinger: Clock Twister was on Auto for my runs on MF. I'm not behind my PC right now, but I'll run with it enabled to see what difference it makes tomorrow.

My "write" and "copy" numbers are better than yours too. I'm sure I can duplicate your read numbers if I run everest tests a couple of times, instead of once. I also think clock twister enabled, will add a few more digits all around. I really want these results to sway me as to which bios to use; so I'll give you all the ram settings for the "secondary, as well as "tertiary" ram settings for the rampage. Could you run rams at these settings:

5-5-5-15-3-35-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-4-6-14-5-1-5-5

[ante_ante]

Wonder if these to setting will help my overclocking or not ? Using a E8500.

CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67

[kup]

Ok, one thing that I'm confused about is which phases to enable if I have the ram in the white slots and which if I have it in the blue slots? Anyone got any ideas? I want to try to get PL6 or PL7 with pulled up Phases so it's like PL6 and then lower the timings even more.

How come you guys have a Write speed almost as high as your read speeds?

[ZenEffect]

Ok, one thing that I'm confused about is which phases to enable if I have the ram in the white slots and which if I have it in the blue slots? Anyone got any ideas? I want to try to get PL6 or PL7 with pulled up Phases so it's like PL6 and then lower the timings even more.

How come you guys have a Write speed almost as high as your read speeds?

they run a higher fsb than us. :(
and try just enabling all of them.

[kup]

How come their read and write speeds are nearly even and mine are not?

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/600/everest2zp6.jpg

[ericab]

my newest numbers ;)

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/693/cachememaaxw3.th.png (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cachememaaxw3.png)

[Grnfinger]

@ Grnfinger: Clock Twister was on Auto for my runs on MF. I'm not behind my PC right now, but I'll run with it enabled to see what difference it makes tomorrow.

My "write" and "copy" numbers are better than yours too. I'm sure I can duplicate your read numbers if I run everest tests a couple of times, instead of once. I also think clock twister enabled, will add a few more digits all around. I really want these results to sway me as to which bios to use; so I'll give you all the ram settings for the "secondary, as well as "tertiary" ram settings for the rampage. Could you run rams at these settings:

5-5-5-15-3-35-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-4-6-14-5-1-5-5

I will run them tomorrow and post the results

[ZenEffect]

just reloaded my system again, and started from scratch making sure everything is 100% stable. this is the best ive done yet for a stable system!

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/1200.jpg

5-5-5-18-3-50-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-46-14-5-1-5-5

[ChaosMinionX]

just reloaded my system again, and started from scratch making sure everything is 100% stable. this is the best ive done yet for a stable system!

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/1200.jpg

5-5-5-18-3-50-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-46-14-5-1-5-5

What complete BIOS settings for that 4050mhz? Voltages and everything.

[Spyrus]

Ok, one thing that I'm confused about is which phases to enable if I have the ram in the white slots and which if I have it in the blue slots? Anyone got any ideas? I want to try to get PL6 or PL7 with pulled up Phases so it's like PL6 and then lower the timings even more.

How come you guys have a Write speed almost as high as your read speeds?


This is mine:
with PL7/phases disabled@5-5-5-15
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/kc677uw0ufpqzr5254iv.jpg (http://www.imageshack.gr/view.php?file=kc677uw0ufpqzr5254iv.jpg)

with PL8/phases enabled@5-5-4-13
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/3md6t918bmny9n4rmfx3.jpg (http://www.imageshack.gr/view.php?file=3md6t918bmny9n4rmfx3.jpg)

I enabled all available phases do not know if some need to be down, but giorgos th. has tested that and found no difference, though someone else could confirm that.

[TheOriginalTB]

Funny you guys get far better memory performance than I do :(

This was done with my 24/7 settings:
http://2200kbhn.dk/showpic.php?id=39&rsz=1

And this is with a higher FSB, but slower ram
http://2200kbhn.dk/showpic.php?id=40&rsz=1

Hmm - I think I might try the Rampage BIOS..

[Grnfinger]

After many hours of testing and tweaking I can finally say that this board is ALOT better now with the Rampage bios. Once the settings are figured out and tweaked for your setup, it is a major improvement


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4250_1200_3.png

[RobotDJX]

HousERaT: last time I tried was when I upped to 907. Yesterday I went 1004 and haven't tried installing it since I don't really need it.
1004 is running smooth here by the way with the E8500.

[etoel]

I'm about to start clocking this beast, but I'm a bit worried about my SB and NB temps as I'm reading that 47C is a critical limit.

I have QX6850 and have replaced all the stock coolers with water. My CPU idles at 22C and my GPU at 36C so I know that part is working, but my NB is at 41 and my SB is at 40 (idle). They are both cooled by Aqua Computer Twinplex XT di blocks.

I have 4x2GB Geil 8500 Black Dragon (@1066), 8800GTX and a pcie (4x) raid controller.

I *think* (fingers crossed) that the thermal paste (AS5) and seating is OK, but before I rip the board out and check I wanted to check with you guys if these are suspiciously high.

Any input welcome - thanks :)

[Dostoyevsky77]

Grnfinger/RobotDJX:

Is 1004 running any differently from 0907 with Wolfdale? Should I have any motivation to flash?

[RobotDJX]

my NB and SB are idle around 35c (NB on water)
Fully stressed NB hits 42 and SB 39. Used AS5 too.

What do you use to measure the temp of the GPU?

Dostoyevsky77: More options setting tRFC and I could go down one notch Vcore in the bios since after flashing 1.368v was suddenly 1.352 in stead of 1.344 in CPUZ. Other than that I have experienced no difference so far, all is still stable after 10 hours of Orthos. Will start benching again after dark...

[etoel]

my NB and SB are idle around 35c (NB on water)
Fully stressed NB hits 42 and SB 39. Used AS5 too.

What do you use to measure the temp of the GPU?

Everest 4.20.1170:

--------[ Sensor ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type W83627DHG + W83791D + ADT7475 + ADP3228 (ISA 290h, SMB 2Ch/2Eh/20h)
GPU Sensor Type Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh)
Motherboard Name Asus Maximus Extreme / Formula
Chassis Intrusion Detected No

Temperatures:
Motherboard 34 °C (93 °F)
CPU 21 °C (70 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 35 °C (95 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 35 °C (95 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 28 °C (82 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 37 °C (99 °F)
North Bridge 39 °C (102 °F)
South Bridge 39 °C (102 °F)
GPU 35 °C (95 °F)
GPU Diode 45 °C (113 °F)
GPU Ambient 35 °C (95 °F)
SAMSUNG HD501LJ 40 °C (104 °F)
Seagate ST3500630AS 46 °C (115 °F)
Seagate ST3750640AS 45 °C (113 °F)
HDD #4 37 °C (99 °F)
Seagate ST31000340AS 37 °C (99 °F)
Seagate ST31000340AS 38 °C (100 °F)
Seagate ST31000340AS 39 °C (102 °F)
Seagate ST31000340AS 37 °C (99 °F)
WDC WD1500ADFD-00NLR1 37 °C (99 °F)
WDC WD1500ADFD-00NLR1 33 °C (91 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 2150 RPM
Chassis #2 1278 RPM
Fan #1 1507 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.12 V
+3.3 V 3.26 V
+5 V 4.85 V
+12 V 12.26 V
+5 V Standby 4.95 V
FSB VTT 1.30 V
North Bridge Core 1.36 V
South Bridge Core 1.07 V
South Bridge PLL 1.52 V
DIMM 2.22 V
DIMM VTT 1.10 V
GPU Vcc 3.30 V
Debug Info F FF 9D FF FF 21
Debug Info T 34 21 27
Debug Info V 8C DB CC CC 9A CA 9F (03)

[Zucker2k]

Well, let's see.... Ai Clock Twister enabled this time, Static Read at Auto, PL7, 7x500 and 8x500, MF bios 1004.

[kup]

Any new bios for the Rampage yet?

[Spyrus]

Wow you have no patience my friend.
We are still on betas and there is no official bios yet
(and we have already upcoming bios tweaking of X48!)
That is more than enough for me!

[kup]

Wow you have no patience my friend.
We are still on betas and there is no official bios yet
(and we have already upcoming bios tweaking of X48!)
That is more than enough for me!

I fail to see how I'm impatient when I simply asked if there were any new bios floating about! We've had 3 in a matter of weeks so they're out there if we can find them...

[TheOriginalTB]

Am I the only one having some issues with this?

If I go 1MHz above 3.6 Windows Defender crashes when I login :( This both happens with 451*8 and 401*9 :( But at 3600 it runs perfectly at 1.49V (E6600 B2) Upping the voltage doesn't help at all..

(I'm on water, both CPU and NB)

Any suggestions?

[ZenEffect]

What complete BIOS settings for that 4050mhz? Voltages and everything.

let me get home from work today and i will post screen shots, im not writing everything down then typing it out :p:

@kup

if we want new bios' we should talk to our taiwanese chums over at vr-zone as all the beta bios' seem to be leaking from taiwan

[geof]

for those who verified, can you tell me what's the cpu pll when set as "auto" ? this value increase when cpu is overclocked ? (always as "auto")

thanks :)

[Celoth]

Quick question for you guys:

How hot is the NB running with the stock heatsink? I am getting a Rampage and just wanna know if I need to invest in a NB waterblock, or if I can simply direct some of the airflow from the case fan over the heatsink, and perhaps change the thermal tape to a proper TIM.

I'd love some voltage / temp numbers with 4 RAM sticks especially. :D

[Spyrus]

It depends of the fsb/strap. For daily use with 4sticks could be difficult for high clocks

[Celoth]

Let's say a moderate overclock of a E8500 @ 450FSB and 4x2GB PC2-8500 sticks running near their rated speeds in ambient temps up to around 30C in the summertime. A bit faster in spring, fall and winter if possible.

[ZenEffect]

Quick question for you guys:

How hot is the NB running with the stock heatsink? I am getting a Rampage and just wanna know if I need to invest in a NB waterblock, or if I can simply direct some of the airflow from the case fan over the heatsink, and perhaps change the thermal tape to a proper TIM.

I'd love some voltage / temp numbers with 4 RAM sticks especially. :D

typically i never see mine exceed 55c under a few hours of full load. 1.51 volts set in bios. i am using the stock heatsink just as it was from the factory (non se version) but i do have a small fan that i used nylon zip ties to strap it to the top.

[andyr(uk)]

@ any 6600 users with 450 x 8 plus , what you setting your cpu pll at and also your nb volts , thanks

[Grnfinger]

Am I the only one having some issues with this?

If I go 1MHz above 3.6 Windows Defender crashes when I login :( This both happens with 451*8 and 401*9 :( But at 3600 it runs perfectly at 1.49V (E6600 B2) Upping the voltage doesn't help at all..

(I'm on water, both CPU and NB)

Any suggestions?

What are you NB volts and FSBT volts?

[Grnfinger]

CPU PLL on Auto you can check in your bios under hardware monitor
I do recall at auto it runs around 1.60 , unsure if it adjusts according to overclock,

[Spyrus]

I am at 9x450@540 PL7 and have around 55oC at 1.35V with no additional fan
and all fans at ~1000rpm. But surely i can do better if i wanted the cooling noise

VTT,PLL, are lowest possible up to 500fsb with 0.63x cpu,0.67x nb

[ZenEffect]

@ any 6600 users with 450 x 8 plus , what you setting your cpu pll at and also your nb volts , thanks

im at 450x9

cpu ppl is 1.61 and nb is 1.51

[andyr(uk)]

im at 450x9

cpu ppl is 1.61 and nb is 1.51

thanks , thats some chip you got there :)

[saaya]

wow, nice! thanks a lot! :toast:

[Mic]

Quick question for you guys:

How hot is the NB running with the stock heatsink? I am getting a Rampage and just wanna know if I need to invest in a NB waterblock, or if I can simply direct some of the airflow from the case fan over the heatsink, and perhaps change the thermal tape to a proper TIM.

I'd love some voltage / temp numbers with 4 RAM sticks especially. :D
With 2 small fans mouted on the cooling fans my NB temp is 47 C degrees with 1.55V, raising that voltage to 1.6 I get around 50 degrees. SB is around 40 degrees. A little to hot I think so gonna add some water cooling tomorrow.

[Zucker2k]

Okay, this is getting interesting...

[wilson]

Ok guys should i buy the formula for £165 or wait for the rampage thats £200 as my pc shop has the formula in stock but not the rampage. Im askin this as they are both the same board aint they apart from the bios being better than the formula???

[wilson]

Ok now stupid question but is the formula and rampage the same ??? Like is the x48 just a overclocked x38??? and is it worth me buying a formula for £165 or waiting for a rampage and paying £200 for it when its in stock.
Cheers Paul

[ZenEffect]

Okay, this is getting interesting...

those are some very impressive results! 6 more fsb makes a world of difference!:up:

@ wilson
i wouldnt even go so far as to say the x48 is a overclocked x38...
from what i understand there is no real difference between the 2 except the x48 has the 1600mhz fsb stamp of approval, but as you can see here we are taking the x38 well beyond 1600mhz

[Grendel66]

Heh, that was easy. Here's AFUDOS 2.36ES.

[ZenEffect]

Heh, that was easy. Here's AFUDOS 2.36ES.

yup confirmed 2.36ES, though its a bit late now... :p:
looks like we are going to have most versions of afudos in es by the time the rampage gets released!

good find :)

[andyr(uk)]

Ok now stupid question but is the formula and rampage the same ??? Like is the x48 just a overclocked x38??? and is it worth me buying a formula for £165 or waiting for a rampage and paying £200 for it when its in stock.
Cheers Paul

Its the same board , the diffence is the bios which can be flashed over to the same as the rampage and the x48 is a speed binned x38

the rampage is expected to be in stock at the end of March, if its worth the extra depends on if you think the speed binned chip is worth the extra 40-50 quid i suppose

[wilson]

Ok so i could just flash the bios over and have a rampage ? is the speed binned just something in the bios and the chipset is just the same.
Sry for the dumb question but id just rather buy the formula and flash the bios over and sve the cash if its that simple.
Cheers Paul

[ZenEffect]

Ok so i could just flash the bios over and have a rampage ? is the speed binned just something in the bios and the chipset is just the same.
Sry for the dumb question but id just rather buy the formula and flash the bios over and sve the cash if its that simple.
Cheers Paul

yes it is as easy as just flashing over the bios. the speed binned thing is the northbridge, and is pretty much a fancy seal of approval nothing more. from experience the x38 runs past 1600fsb with ease

[wilson]

Roger that!!
Looks like it`s a formula with the rampage bios mod:up: .
Jus one last thing , does it run ok with the e8400.

[ZenEffect]

Roger that!!
Looks like it`s a formula with the rampage bios mod:up: .
Jus one last thing , does it run ok with the e8400.

look @ zucker's and grnfinger's posts. apparently, they are having excellent results :yepp: :D

[ZenEffect]

What do you use to measure the temp of the GPU?



gpu-z click the sensors tab

[ericab]

@wilson,

the only difference is the physical 'build' 'QUALITY' of the specific chip.

think of it....... as gold (x48) vs silver (x38)

[Celoth]

Thanks those who posted temp numbers. :)

How is the Asus warranty policy when it comes to changing the chipset cooling? Will it void it? If it doesn't I'd get an actual Rampage, but if it does void it, there's really little point in not getting a maximus instead and flashing it to a rampage. Assuming the NB is the same quality of course.

[ElEctric_EyE]

Man, I just started reading through this post this morning, and got to about page 5 and said to myself, I'm doin' it tonight when I get home. Went smooth as silk... Just wanted to post and say my Thanks especially to The Stilt and ZenEffect for their hard work. Much appreciated guys, simple thanks doesn't go far enough to express how happy I am as an owner of a Rampage! I hope "those guys" don't lock future Rampage BIOS's from us. Sorta nice of them to let us get away with it so far eh? ASUS has re-earned my loyalty. BTW, only snag I ran into was 0219 did not rec. my USB keyboard (minor). Otherwise, it booted right into Vista x64. Goin to do more testing now... Thanks again M8's!!!

[ZenEffect]

Man, I just started reading through this post this morning, and got to about page 5 and said to myself, I'm doin' it tonight when I get home. Went smooth as silk... Just wanted to post and say my Thanks especially to The Stilt and ZenEffect for their hard work. Much appreciated guys, simple thanks doesn't go far enough to express how happy I am as an owner of a Rampage! I hope "those guys" don't lock future Rampage BIOS's from us. Sorta nice of them to let us get away with it so far eh? ASUS has re-earned my loyalty. BTW, only snag I ran into was 0219 did not rec. my USB keyboard (minor). Otherwise, it booted right into Vista x64. Goin to do more testing now... Thanks again M8's!!!

i think at this point the only way to lock out future bios' will be to completely redesign the motherboard. i may be wrong but i dont think there is much asus can do on the software side to lock us out.

[kup]

I've narrowed down the multiplier bug to loading a saved profile and the multiplier not changing when you save and reboot.

If the multi is 9x and you load a profile with for example, 8x, if you save a reboot it stays stuck at 9x and when you boot it is at 9x in the bios. Set it to 8x manually now and then save and reboot and it should be fine. This is the only quirk I've found so far...

[kup]

i think at this point the only way to lock out future bios' will be to completely redesign the motherboard. i may be wrong but i dont think there is much asus can do on the software side to lock us out.

Correct. We've now got the flash tools to flash ANY bios to these boards, even if it had yet another ROMID or was even a completely incompatible bios, we could still force it to flash to our boards.

[Newms118]

ok i have a weird problem. just trying to increase vcore because i cant get 3.1 ghz stable (get prime95 BSOD) on a q6600. i had everything stock on the 0907 bios except i had 9x345 FSB and DRAM voltage at 2.12. cpuz showed my vcore (which was on auto) at around 1.334 idle and 1.304 under load. i tried increase the vcore to 1.34 and it lowered the vcore to 1.28!. i had to set the vcore at 1.400 to get it to apply 1.34 voltage, any idea what could be wrong? do i need to adjust the NB or vFSB voltages? thanks

[ZenEffect]

ok i have a weird problem. just trying to increase vcore because i cant get 3.1 ghz stable (get prime95 BSOD) on a q6600. i had everything stock on the 0907 bios except i had 9x345 FSB and DRAM voltage at 2.12. cpuz showed my vcore (which was on auto) at around 1.334 idle and 1.304 under load. i tried increase the vcore to 1.34 and it lowered the vcore to 1.28!. i had to set the vcore at 1.400 to get it to apply 1.34 voltage, any idea what could be wrong? do i need to adjust the NB or vFSB voltages? thanks

vdroop is normal. make sure you have loadline calibration enabled and it shouldnt be as bad.

[Grnfinger]

squeezed alittle bit more for 24/7 use

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test2-2.jpg

[ZenEffect]

Correct. We've now got the flash tools to flash ANY bios to these boards, even if it had yet another ROMID or was even a completely incompatible bios, we could still force it to flash to our boards.

i deleted the post, but the romid is easy enough to change anyways :p:

[ChaosMinionX]

i deleted the post, but the romid is easy enough to change anyways :p:

You ever get those screens for that 4050mhz shot?

[ZenEffect]

You ever get those screens for that 4050mhz shot?

im still at work, im off in 3 min and will be home in about a half hour. i will post it then :p:

[kup]

i deleted the post, but the romid is easy enough to change anyways :p:

You deleted it? Why?

[ericab]

squeezed alittle bit more for 24/7 use

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test2-2.jpg

hey, Grn ?

are these the ram sticks you have ??

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8669693&st=corsair&lp=5&type=product&cp=1&id=1196470792007

(model: TWIN2X2048-8500C5D)

since i have a 500$ bestbuy gift card, i'm looking for some different ram... im just not happy with my crucial's anymore..

how would you rate them?

[ZenEffect]

You deleted it? Why?

because changing the romid did not work to flash back to maximus, would not program the boot block :(

[kup]

Ahhh, that post. I thought you meant the AFUDOS ES posts...? :D

[ZenEffect]

Ahhh, that post. I thought you meant the AFUDOS ES posts...? :D

oh no no no... worked too hard to find that one :D

[ZenEffect]

You ever get those screens for that 4050mhz shot?

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/Picture005-2.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/Picture006.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/Picture007.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/Picture008.jpg

that should do it. lowest possible voltage settings to be be 8 hours prime stable small ffts and memtest for 4 hours for my particular rig:up:
my quad is LOVING the higher gtl... wish it would go to 80 though

[ChaosMinionX]

Sick, thanks for the update :)

I will let you know how I fair with that heh.

[Toysoldier]

because changing the romid did not work to flash back to maximus, would not program the boot block :(

You need to use the 907 Bios to get back to Maximus from Rampage.
I also got the "bootblock corrupted" message when trying to use Bios v1004, but it went smooth when I tried the 907 version.

[kup]

You need to use the 907 Bios to get back to Maximus from Rampage.
I also got the "bootblock corrupted" message when trying to use Bios v1004, but it went smooth when I tried the 907 version.

Not true, using AFUDOS ES you can flash any bios to the board.

[dude_500]

Is GTL dangerous at all or is it merely a 'setting' that doesn't affect temps or possibly damage any components? I have it on auto and can't get to 3.7 from my 3.6 OC even if I up all my voltages by 3 clicks. Should I just max my GTL or what?

[jeeka]

Did you guys ever find a version that allows you to flash back? I PM'd Zen just now, but this MIGHT be one that could work, I have a P5K deluxe so I am not even keen to what you guys are trying to accomplish....

This might, or might not, be a genuine find, but just wanted to help the brothers out....

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/showpost.php?p=4755&postcount=3944

Please investigate if this is the real deal, and apologies if you have already solved the issue! (too lazy to read through all the pages in the thread)....

-Jeeka

[kup]

Did you guys ever find a version that allows you to flash back? I PM'd Zen just now, but this MIGHT be one that could work, I have a P5K deluxe so I am not even keen to what you guys are trying to accomplish....

This might, or might not, be a genuine find, but just wanted to help the brothers out....

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/showpost.php?p=4755&postcount=3944

Please investigate if this is the real deal, and apologies if you have already solved the issue! (too lazy to read through all the pages in the thread)....

-Jeeka

The AFUDOS ES versions will let you flash back and forth as much as you want.

EDIT: And that one you linked is fake.

[ZenEffect]

You need to use the 907 Bios to get back to Maximus from Rampage.
I also got the "bootblock corrupted" message when trying to use Bios v1004, but it went smooth when I tried the 907 version.

i used the 907 as the base for a bios mod BEFORE i found the es version of afudos in an attempt to get back with the tools we had available at the time. anyways to put it short it didnt work and so now we all use afudos. if we could, please kill this subject as it is confusing everyone here but me.

[jeeka]

The AFUDOS ES versions will let you flash back and forth as much as you want.

EDIT: And that one you linked is fake.

Oops sorry dudes...
Glad to see that it's working for all ya'll! So in one sentence, what was that you guys were trying to do?

I take it that whatever you tried it backfired?

Will this allow me to flash back with a P5k Deluxe too?

[Toysoldier]

Not true, using AFUDOS ES you can flash any bios to the board.

Well ... if I try to flash from Rampage to Maximus using bios 1004 I get a "bootblock corrupted" message and AFU236U exits. If I flash using bios 907 everything is fine.

I haven't tried this with the older 226ES version of AFUDOS.

This might simply be the case of a beta bios not containing a complete bootblock.

[ZenEffect]

Well ... if I try to flash from Rampage to Maximus using bios 1004 I get a "bootblock corrupted" message and AFU236U exits. If I flash using bios 907 everything is fine.

I haven't tried this with the older 226ES version of AFUDOS.

This might simply be the case of a beta bios not containing a complete bootblock.


its probably what you said, the beta not having a complete bootblock.

[kup]

Well ... if I try to flash from Rampage to Maximus using bios 1004 I get a "bootblock corrupted" message and AFU236U exits. If I flash using bios 907 everything is fine.

I haven't tried this with the older 226ES version of AFUDOS.

This might simply be the case of a beta bios not containing a complete bootblock.


its probably what you said, the beta not having a complete bootblock.

Using the stock unmodified Rampage bios? And using the ES version of AFUDOS 2.36?

[Maglin]

Sweet. I love the Rampage BIOS options for memory. I'm now running @ 440x9 on Air. I still have some instability but I'm working it out slowly. Once I can nail this setting down I'm going to try for 4ghz+ being 444 FSB+. I've been thinking of running a small WC loop just for the NB to see if I can't get it's temps more under control. I'm worried that I might end up going crazy and build a whole WC rig and use DC200 for the coolant. I've had a few gallons sitting around for just the job. :) Thanks for all the work guys.

[ericab]

alright.... what ram would you guys go with.... i have to buy it from bestbuy; unfortunately :/

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&id=abcat0506001

[dude_500]

alright.... what ram would you guys go with.... i have to buy it from bestbuy; unfortunately :/

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&id=abcat0506001

Out of that selection, the 1066 dominators would be the best I'd say

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8669693&type=product&id=1196470792007

[ChaosMinionX]

alright.... what ram would you guys go with.... i have to buy it from bestbuy; unfortunately :/

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&id=abcat0506001

HOLY OVERPRICED RAM BATMAN!!!

I am sorry you have to buy it from bestbut, that is about 2x the price of other retailers.

[ericab]

HOLY OVERPRICED RAM BATMAN!!!

I am sorry you have to buy it from bestbut, that is about 2x the price of other retailers.

i know i know; i fu**ing hate bestbuy. newegg has them for 54$ after a rebate!!
:mad:

[ChaosMinionX]

i know i know; i fu**ing hate bestbuy. newegg has them for 54$ after a rebate!!
:mad:

Why do you have to use bestbuy?

[Newms118]

thanks zen, but i mean when i change vcore in the BIOS, to say 1.400, when i enter windows and run cpuz or speedfan, i get a large deviation like 1.34 when idle, not under load, or if i enter 1.34 in bios i get 1.28 when idle, so if i want to get 1.4, it looks like ill have to increase vcore to like 1.5 or something, something is deff off

[iTravis]

It's been awhile since I'm using my 907. Should I upgrade to 1004 for my Q6600? It seems the 45nm has more benefits with this BIOS than the 65nm Quad and Dual.

[ZenEffect]

Why do you have to use bestbuy?

gift card. if it were me though id hold out for a q9550. i WAS going to get one last weekend but i got parts for a hackintosh build that is loading software right now;)

[ZenEffect]

It's been awhile since I'm using my 907. Should I upgrade to 1004 for my Q6600? It seems the 45nm has more benefits with this BIOS than the 65nm Quad and Dual.

i tried it but went back to 907 as it seemed more stable for my q6600. currently im really enjoying the rampage mod though too much to consider going back to a maximus unless i had to rma it for some reason :p:

[ericab]

@chaosminion; giftcard...

@zen
the problem is, best buy doesn't sell cpu's; only full systems :/

....plus even if best buy did sell it; the fact that your average e-tailer sells the q9550 for $500, BB's price wold probably be astronomically higher.

[cstkl1]

rampage formula is available but at a ridiculous price
RM3.2=USD1
DFI LT X38 -T2r= RM 880
maximus formula = RM1050
maximus formula SE = RM1150
Rampage formula = RM1350?????
Maximus Extreme = RM1399

[ChaosMinionX]

Seems it needs like 1.5v FSB to get 475x8 stable....... Will report back findings.

[TheOriginalTB]

What are you NB volts and FSBT volts?

As listed in the BIOS: (not the values selected, but the actual values)

CPU: 1.480
CPU PLL: 1.616
FSB Termination: 1.456
DRAM: 2.352
NB: 1.648
SB: 1.072
SB 1.5: 1.536

Also I noted one peculiar thing - if I set all voltages to auto and boot with 266MHz FSB I get theese values: (same order as above)


CPU: 1.288
CPU PLL: 1.616
FSB Termination: 1.232
DRAM: 1.888
NB: 1.264
SB: 1.072
SB 1.5: 1.536

And if I change the FSB to 400 and up the vcore to 1.500 then I get these values (note the NB and the CPU PLL, they are still on auto..)


CPU: 1.496
CPU PLL: 1.632
FSB Termination: 1.456
DRAM: 2.368
NB: 1.632
SB: 1.072
SB 1.5: 1.536

Why do the NB and FSB T increase this much?

Also even though I select 1.5V CPU PLL, I cannot get below 1.61V when running 400MHz FSB

[Grnfinger]

hey, Grn ?

are these the ram sticks you have ??

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8669693&st=corsair&lp=5&type=product&cp=1&id=1196470792007

(model: TWIN2X2048-8500C5D)

since i have a 500$ bestbuy gift card, i'm looking for some different ram... im just not happy with my crucial's anymore..

how would you rate them?


Thats them, I am very satified with the ram and would recommend them to anyone. They have even done 4-4-4-12 @2.35 Altho I would not use that for 24 / 7 use

[miptzi]

I've finally managed to get the dreamed 3.6ghz in my Q6600.
400x9
just put Vcore 1.41, STRAP 400mhz, anb NB 1.5V
the biggest part of settings is AUTO

do you guys know if my 2x1gb Corsair XMS2 800mhz rev 5.2 / 5-5-5-12 at 1.9V can handle the clock of 1066????????

wich settings I should input to handle this OC???????

[ElEctric_EyE]

Anyone with a Q6600, I am noticing on BIOS startup screen that it's only seeing 2 cores. Didn't it used to say 4?
Vista 64 sees them and so does cpu-z. Maybe it's nothing to worry about?

[Leeghoofd]

thanks zen, but i mean when i change vcore in the BIOS, to say 1.400, when i enter windows and run cpuz or speedfan, i get a large deviation like 1.34 when idle, not under load, or if i enter 1.34 in bios i get 1.28 when idle, so if i want to get 1.4, it looks like ill have to increase vcore to like 1.5 or something, something is deff off

It's like Zen told ya it's Vdroop and without loadline calibration on, it will drop to an even lower level when loaded... eg my Q6600 needs 1.2 volts for 3ghz I need to set in maximus bios 1.2625 to get 1.21 volts under idle, when primed it drops to 1.2. for my Qx9650 even worse needs 1.38volts for 4ghz need to set 1.4750 to get it running smoothly...

[Leeghoofd]

It's been awhile since I'm using my 907. Should I upgrade to 1004 for my Q6600? It seems the 45nm has more benefits with this BIOS than the 65nm Quad and Dual.

If ya don't have any issues right now no need to upgrade the bios... I put it on for my 2 x 2Gb sticks and set Trfc to 60 as Tony suggested...

[Xilikon]

Glad I finally decided to buy a Maximus instead of waiting for a Rampage. I downloaded everything I need to flash back and forth between the two :D

Mine will be watercooled and I hope it will work better than my P5K-E which got tired of being stressed with 4 sticks and crapped the NB.

I will try to flash to Rampage and back to Maximus with 0907 version 2-3 times. If everything works, I can confirm so the OP can update the first post (it still have old informations which is confusing everyone now).

[zlojack]

Anyone with a Q6600, I am noticing on BIOS startup screen that it's only seeing 2 cores. Didn't it used to say 4?
Vista 64 sees them and so does cpu-z. Maybe it's nothing to worry about?
Does Coretemp see all 4?

[Kenski]

Anyone who tried a P5E to rampage with good results,
I'm really tempted by some posts of lower vcore, would get my QX overclock higher with less vdroop too.....

[andyr(uk)]

Anyone who tried a P5E to rampage with good results,
I'm really tempted by some posts of lower vcore, would get my QX overclock higher with less vdroop too.....

has that been done , didnt think that was the same board ?

[kup]

Yeah, P5E to Rampage works too. The second Ethernet won't work and there are a few other random things but as a whole the cross flash works.

[p2501]

Also even though I select 1.5V CPU PLL, I cannot get below 1.61V when running 400MHz FSB


It seems to be common for Maximus Formula, it likes to overvolt. :rolleyes:

[Kenski]

May just give it a try over the long weekend, ;)
The QX really deserves a better mobo than the stock P5E, that and the endless memory glitches/compatabilty with anything more than a modest overclock would've seen me changing the mobo soon anyway,
Thanks for the replies. :)

[Newms118]

t's like Zen told ya it's Vdroop and without loadline calibration on, it will drop to an even lower level when loaded... eg my Q6600 needs 1.2 volts for 3ghz I need to set in maximus bios 1.2625 to get 1.21 volts under idle, when primed it drops to 1.2. for my Qx9650 even worse needs 1.38volts for 4ghz need to set 1.4750 to get it running smoothly...

thanks again leeg. i guess i just feel a vcore of 1.34 is too much to get the q6600 at 3.2 ghz. i know i must need more though because with everything set auto except 9x355 FSB and 1.34 vcore, i get prime95 errors after 20 min.
under this load the vcore drops b/w 1.304 and 1.296. any other voltages i should adjust? my ram is running 1:1 at 10xx (1083 if i remember)

[Sources]

Well I was a bit bummed to, but he re assured me it was a fluke and to keep cranking these things out the volts. I ordered 2 2x1 kits and one kit came as a dual sided and the other as a single sided. I heard that the dual sided performed much better. He said he would exchange my defective one plus the other good single sided one for 2 new dual sided sticks.

Thats is GREAT customer service.

Thumbs up for CRUCIAL !!!
The Reps name was Brian.


@Sources:

damn that sucks! i cant believe your stick died seeing that your only pulling 912mhz and pushing 2.12 volts! i have the balistix and im pushing 2.26 volts @ 560MHz, mabye i should take a lesson from you ? :/

@Teko:

i had some nb/sb reading problems when i updated to the maximus rampage bios. a simple FULL uninstall and reinstall of everest fixed the problem. (make sure you backup your "Everest.ini" file before you do it if you have any custom settings...)
also, why not try the rampage bios ? everyone's been having amazing results...

[Spyrus]

CPU GTL from 0.63x had it in Maximus now is it worth for 0.67x?
Does it allow lower vcore? Some of you have done it already.

[Renegade5399]

Hey guys, heads up if you have DDR2 800 or 1066 Tracers 1GB sticks:

Link (http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/notice_x38_x48_ballistix_tracers-11830/index.html)

Crucial has removed X38 and X48 from the compatible chipsets list for these sticks. Call them up yourself and ask them. On 3/7/08 the Engineering department invalidated the compatibility spec. The lady I had on the phone said she saw a "note in the system" dated 3/7/08 stating this.

[Renegade5399]

Having trouble with your DDR2 800 or 1066 Ballistix Tracers?

See here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2849340&postcount=2351).

[Sources]

Hey guys, heads up if you have DDR2 800 or 1066 Tracers 1GB sticks:

Link (http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/notice_x38_x48_ballistix_tracers-11830/index.html)

Crucial has removed X38 and X48 from the compatible chipsets list for these sticks. Call them up yourself and ask them. On 3/7/08 the Engineering department invalidated the compatibility spec. The lady I had on the phone said she saw a "note in the system" dated 3/7/08 stating this.

I wonder if it is because if a lot of the less experienced over clockers are setting 2.2v in the bios here and its actually running at around 2.28v

[ZenEffect]

Having trouble with your DDR2 800 or 1066 Ballistix Tracers?

See here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2849340&postcount=2351).

mabye that is why i couldnt do anything with that ram :rofl: RETURNED!

[Eastcoasthandle]

Why has newegg (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131227) and tiger direct (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=3488&msg=A455-2802) stop selling this motherboard?
ZZF and a few other online retailers are still selling them but I have to wonder if it's based on overstock? This doesn't look like a case of "out of stock" for NE and TD either.

[Xilikon]

Just get Mushkin and be done. I had my sticks survive a NB death...

[ZenEffect]

Just get Mushkin and be done. I had my sticks survive a NB death...

im using mushkin now, was looking for something better

[Mic]

Ok this rampage bios really is good, this overclock is far better than what I had reached with the Maximus Bios.. Q6600@4.5 Ghz with 4 Ram modules.
http://www.zarkas.dk/finally.jpg

[tc17]

Not sure if this is the right forum for this question or not.

But I have the Asus Maximus Formula. I was wondering if anyone here uses the Corsair cm2x2048-6400c5dhx memory with this board?

I bought this memory kit from buy.com. However both memory sticks appear defective. One stick won't even boot to the bios, the other will lock up soon as I start memtest.

Both sticks have the exact same problem in my amd board (Biostar). Yet one guy on the Corsair forums is trying to tell me its unlikely both sticks would be bad and that it must be my motherboard because its been discontinued.

This whole switch to an Intel setup is costing too much.

Now I don't know if I'm better off returning the ram for a refund, or having buy.com exchange it, or Corsair exchange it. Maybe the board is bad, I don't know, but personally I doubt it, seeing that it has the same problem on another totally different board.

[Sources]

This mobo is a limited edition. It has been discontinued from what I have heard. They were only manufacturing them for a certain time period.

Note: with the learning curve for this board I would have been happier sticking with my P35 Platinum MSI board (cheaper and almost as good), I was VERY happy with its over clocking and stability, but I got this ASUS free so I took it.
But on a good note, with all these good peeps in this community a lot of the guess work is done for any new owners of this board. Most new issues that come up now would probably be due to compatibility.




Why has newegg (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131227) and tiger direct (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=3488&msg=A455-2802) stop selling this motherboard?
ZZF and a few other online retailers are still selling them but I have to wonder if it's based on overstock? This doesn't look like a case of "out of stock" for NE and TD either.

[Sources]

See if a friend will let you put that RAM into his mobo and test it, or take it to a local computer store. Also try a stick of another RAM in your mobo.

I think this board can be pretty picky with memory. Did you clear your cmos when installing this memory or was it the first sticks you put into it.

Maybe they need more than the default 1.8v the board boots with.


Not sure if this is the right forum for this question or not.

But I have the Asus Maximus Formula. I was wondering if anyone here uses the Corsair cm2x2048-6400c5dhx memory with this board?

I bought this memory kit from buy.com. However both memory sticks appear defective. One stick won't even boot to the bios, the other will lock up soon as I start memtest.

Both sticks have the exact same problem in my amd board (Biostar). Yet one guy on the Corsair forums is trying to tell me its unlikely both sticks would be bad and that it must be my motherboard because its been discontinued.

This whole switch to an Intel setup is costing too much.

Now I don't know if I'm better off returning the ram for a refund, or having buy.com exchange it, or Corsair exchange it. Maybe the board is bad, I don't know, but personally I doubt it, seeing that it has the same problem on another totally different board.

[ZenEffect]

Ok this rampage bios really is good, this overclock is far better than what I had reached with the Maximus Bios.. Q6600@4.5 Ghz with 4 Ram modules.


if your cputemp that real, you would be doing a fine job posting while your house is burning down :p:

[ericab]

@Sources;

you didnt by chance have modified heat-spreaders on your ram modules did you ?

[tc17]

See if a friend will let you put that RAM into his mobo and test it, or take it to a local computer store. Also try a stick of another RAM in your mobo.

I think this board can be pretty picky with memory. Did you clear your cmos when installing this memory or was it the first sticks you put into it.

Maybe they need more than the default 1.8v the board boots with.
I did try it with another motherboard I own (AMD Biostar tforce 550) and it has the same problem with it. Both motherboards are on the Corsair "approved" list.

This ram came with a rebate, which I haven't sent yet. I would have probably purchased the Mushkin memory, but the Corsair was cheaper after rebate and on their approved list.

[ChaosMinionX]

My 6600 G0 will booot 3.8/4ghz but simply will not become stable. Guess I will have to buy a 9450, and crank it out :)

[Sources]

Nope just had the OCZ ram cooler over them. When I first put the board system together though I had no cooler blowing on the RAM and I noticed they sure got hot, so I invested into the OCZ cooler with the dual fans. WOW what a difference, it kept them quite cool.

I will take some clear pictures of my system when I get home to show you an idea of how my setup is.
and post a link to them in my sig



@Sources;

you didnt by chance have modified heat-spreaders on your ram modules did you ?

[ZenEffect]

My 6600 G0 will booot 3.8/4ghz but simply will not become stable. Guess I will have to buy a 9450, and crank it out :)

the multi on that processor is not appealing though :(
if you have found reports of them oc'ing through the roof then i guess its a different story

[Zucker2k]

the multi on that processor is not appealing though :(
if you have found reports of them oc'ing through the roof then i guess its a different story

The two I've seen didn't go higher than (8x)438 fsb. I'm kicking myself for letting go my L737B. That cpu did 3.825 @ 1.376v.

[Marvin54]

Exactly what is it WR1 and WR2 ?

[ZenEffect]

Exactly what is it WR1 and WR2 ?

obsolete. use afudos 2.29es and flash using afudos /iROMNAMEHERE /n /pbnc

[Marvin54]

And / n / pbnc what does it do?

[ZenEffect]

And / n / pbnc what does it do?

/n = dont check rom id

/p = program
b = Program Boot Block
n = Program NVRAM
c = Destroy System CMOS

[Brama]

Does someone know what is contained in NVRAM?

I confirm that a vanilla P5E works perfectly with the rampage BIOS 219.
I can read now all the voltages in BIOS (NB, SB, RAM, etc.) that with P5E BIOS was not displayed. I guess my MB has all the voltage sensors of a formula mobo

[ZenEffect]

Does someone know what is contained in NVRAM?

I confirm that a vanilla P5E works perfectly with the rampage BIOS 219.
I can read now all the voltages in BIOS (NB, SB, RAM, etc.) that with P5E BIOS was not displayed. I guess my MB has all the voltage sensors of a formula mobo

the stilt should be able to answer that one... but i think it contains the bios hardware info...

[Grnfinger]

Ok this rampage bios really is good, this overclock is far better than what I had reached with the Maximus Bios.. Q6600@4.5 Ghz with 4 Ram modules.
http://www.zarkas.dk/finally.jpg

Very nice!

Now the important part...is it stable? I see alot of bandwidth posts but I have yet to see any stability screen shots.

[ZenEffect]

Very nice!

Now the important part...is it stable? I see alot of bandwidth posts but I have yet to see any stability screen shots.

i will download the new occt and give it a spin on blend for 4 hours tonight JUST for the screen shot as ive already passed 6 hours small fft and a few hours of memtest...

[Grnfinger]

My wife just got home with my new v/c HD 3870 X2 1GB

Now I need a waterblock for it, any opinions on this???

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=235&osCsid=8b1803487203fb83f0d2b390b801e3fc

[giorgos th.]

the one most prefered....

[ZenEffect]

ive never heard of a bad ek product...

[jfbbms]

the one most prefered....

The ek has the ( for me ) one of the most perfect products.
Also the cooper side, it can act as an mirror for you .

In europe , EK is getting bigger in distribution of products, as
in cpu/graphic card/chipset wb, reservoir.

[ZenEffect]

what i dont understand about the back plates of full cover waterblocks... WHY ARE THEY SHINY?!?!?

i dare anybody to argue with me, but just painting it black will reduce temps as black radiates heat better than any other color. more heat radiated, less heat on the component. why do you think radiators are black? :p:

i can show you thermal images proving this point.

if it didnt void my warranty, i would have painted all the heat pipes and "fin pin" hoopla to black.
(yes i know modding to rampage voided my warranty, but how would anybody know if i just flash it back?)

[zlojack]

My wife just got home with my new v/c HD 3870 X2 1GB

Now I need a waterblock for it, any opinions on this???

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=235&osCsid=8b1803487203fb83f0d2b390b801e3fc

I have two sitting here about to be installed (maybe even tonight).

The blocks are beautiful and you can see the quality.

Hope to have some benchies by the weekend if all goes well with the build.

[ElEctric_EyE]

Man, am I in the WaterCooling thread? This is starting to suck.... Not because WC'ing sux, but because this is not what the original thread was about. This is now about smoke and mirrors? PMs

[Xilikon]

Yeah, hop in the LC forum if you want to find answers about watercooling questions ;)

[Grnfinger]

Easy peeps I just ask'd a question :sofa:

Didnt know it would create problems, thanks for the info tho guys :D

[askimo]

I just flashed my PE5 to the Rampage 0219 and it works!!!

Thank everybody at this thread

[ericab]

I just flashed my PE5 to the Rampage 0219 and it works!!!

Thank everybody at this thread

enjoy :up:

[ericab]

Nope just had the OCZ ram cooler over them. When I first put the board system together though I had no cooler blowing on the RAM and I noticed they sure got hot, so I invested into the OCZ cooler with the dual fans. WOW what a difference, it kept them quite cool.

I will take some clear pictures of my system when I get home to show you an idea of how my setup is.
and post a link to them in my sig

damn now i m worried if my warranty is voided, becasue i put the thermaltake memory heatpipes on mine... :confused:

[iadstudio]

I wonder if it is because if a lot of the less experienced over clockers are setting 2.2v in the bios here and its actually running at around 2.28v

idk, it might be more than that. I fried 2 sets of the new revision on my board and the old Ballistix I had were just fine. My voltage never went over 2.1v

I think there is something with the new Ballistix revisions that lets this board kill them at even modest voltage.

[ericab]

hey Grn?

today i ordered the Corsair Dominator 8500's :yepp:

hell yeah. (thx for advice)

[Yay for Cheese]

I can't seem to get anything stable past 425 FSB. It's stable in OCCT for at least 2.5 hours, but if I raise the FSB to 435, it becomes unstable and more volts don't help. Here are my current BIOS settings for my e8400:

BIOS 1004
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.3375
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

[ZenEffect]

Easy peeps I just ask'd a question :sofa:

Didnt know it would create problems, thanks for the info tho guys :D

i read your post in the corsair help forum. i had a good laugh :p:

[ZenEffect]

I can't seem to get anything stable past 425 FSB. It's stable in OCCT for at least 2.5 hours, but if I raise the FSB to 435, it becomes unstable and more volts don't help. Here are my current BIOS settings for my e8400:


cpu ppl on auto might have something to do with that

[Toysoldier]

Anyone with a Q6600, I am noticing on BIOS startup screen that it's only seeing 2 cores. Didn't it used to say 4?
Vista 64 sees them and so does cpu-z. Maybe it's nothing to worry about?

Mine still shows 4 cores :confused:

[mk-ultra]

I just flashed my PE5 to the Rampage 0219 and it works!!!

Thank everybody at this thread

x2 :clap: :up:

[Marvin54]

/n = dont check rom id

/p = program
b = Program Boot Block
n = Program NVRAM
c = Destroy System CMOS


Thanks. I worked without problem

[Yay for Cheese]

What should I set the cpu ppl voltage as?

[ZenEffect]

What should I set the cpu ppl voltage as?

what does it read as in pcprobe?

[Yay for Cheese]

I'm guessing cpu pll = SB2 in pcprobe2.

If so, it's 1.52

[TheOriginalTB]

Ok time for some of my findings with this mod (BIOS 0219).

Logitech mouse in the outmost USB port nearest the LAN - the BIOS hangs at USBINIT - moving the mouse to another USB port and it boots perfectly.

FSB 452 gives 448MHz, 551 gives 551, and 553 553MHz

Multiplier reverts back to std. when loading an OC profile, making the board unable to boot. Must select the correct lower multiplier after loading the OC Profile. This is only an issue when running lower multiplier than default.

NB temps are reported lower, doubt it's because the NB actually runs cooler..

CPU temps seems to be reported more realistic than on the 0907 MF BIOS - which gave me silly low temps. (like 9 deg at boot)

The board still overvolts like crazy on FSBTT, NB, RAM, and others.

Performance:

This BIOS IS slightly faster than the latest MF bios. With the same settings both read, copy and write were higher, but not by much - the latency however is about 1ns better.

Overclocking:
I have not been able to overclock more than with the MF BIOS, but this is probably due to my cpu more than the board.

With the MF bios I was able to run 500MHz FSB, with the RF bios I'm not even able to boot at 480MHz - major drawback..

Now I'm able to use all memory dividers - with the MF there were some dividers that wouldn't boot at all.

Software:
Windows do not need a reinstall - however Everest no longer detects NB voltage, SB voltage and vcore is reported wrong. (1.1 when actual 1.50)

But all in all - I think this will be a very good board with more matured RF BIOS's.

[bobbobson]

W00t! P5E just flashed successfully. Good work guys. I'll report my overclocking finds later.

[RCG_Bex]

Hey guys I've been away sorting GFX and lost track of this thread. What's considered the best BIOS for OC'ing now and can someone give me a hand OC'ing my E6750? Tried Renegade's original options fromt he start page my but my PC no likey. :(

I have had it up at 3.8Ghz but I'd like to try for 4Ghz if possible, if not then more stable settings for 3.8GHz (was just playing around with settings before - now my LC is here I hope I can get it set up nice n proper!)

~Bex