View Full Version : The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 10:57 AM
Zen, what are those changelogs for?
bios for asus s96s laptops... im searching all their old bios updates *from other sites not asus* looking for the holy grail. what i was interested in was the afudos version...
andyr(uk)
03-13-2008, 11:06 AM
How about "Rampage streamline" or "Maximus Bigbios" or one thats been done i think is "Max rampage" or another is "rampage little chip"
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 11:59 AM
does the es on afudos versions mean "engineering sample" as in unlocked switches?
does the es on afudos versions mean "engineering sample" as in unlocked switches?
If it truely is and Engineering version, then yes it does.
sup3rfly
03-13-2008, 12:15 PM
Stilt, does afudos 2.11 has the Afudos /ixxxx.rom /pbnc /n option?? i think i found 1 but havent got time to try out yet.
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/showpost.php?p=13311&postcount=2
SmokeyTheBandit
03-13-2008, 12:16 PM
Tried both the afudos versions from ZenEffect and can confirm there ES allright !!
They support the switches we need to do this.
But it doesn't work.
i get .. (command: afudos /iloader.rom /n)
------------------------------------------------
Reading file ....... done
Reading bios ....... done
Advance Check ..............
_
--------------------------------------
And thats it doesn't do anything more so i think they either don't support these bios file's or the chip it needs to be flashed in.
For the record i am willing to test if this works on my P5E :)
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 12:18 PM
Tried both the afudos versions from ZenEffect and can confirm there ES allright !!
They support the switches we need to do this.
But it doesn't work.
i get .. (command: afudos /iloader.rom /n)
------------------------------------------------
Reading file ....... done
Reading bios ....... done
Advance Check ..............
_
--------------------------------------
And thats it doesn't do anything more so i think they either don't support these bios file's or the chip it needs to be flashed in.
For the record i am willing to test if this works on my P5E :)
im currently looking for newer versions ;)
now i know for a fact that the es tags on them are engineering versions :up:
wont be too long now...
SmokeyTheBandit
03-13-2008, 12:26 PM
im currently looking for newer versions ;)
now i know for a fact that the es tags on them are engineering versions :up:
wont be too long now...
Ok my friend will be happy to test them for ya ;)
Would realy be one hell of a deal .... P5E -> maximus -> rampage :D
sup3rfly
03-13-2008, 12:27 PM
smokey can u try the afudos 2.11.... in the link i given it says it support the option that is needed...
SmokeyTheBandit
03-13-2008, 12:31 PM
smokey can u try the afudos 2.11.... in the link i given it says it support the option that is needed...
I don't think it would work ZenEffect supplied both 2.20ES and 2.21ES and they support the command but simply won't flash the board.
I hardly doubt an older version has the support for these newer biossed and boards and the new don't.;)
Sebacestmoi
03-13-2008, 12:34 PM
Hi, just a question
I've got the BISO 907 now and my Vista is in an array of 4 Raptor in Raid0.
If I update the BIOS does it will break my RAID?
Thanks for the answer
RobotDJX
03-13-2008, 12:57 PM
you have to set RAID again in BIOS after updating. But that's all.
ericab
03-13-2008, 01:53 PM
i believe i may have found the mother load.
everyone look here:
http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=52
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/showthread.php?t=529
a collection of tools:
http://www.lejabeach.com/sisubb/tool_8_RC1.rar
also would this work??;
http://www.coreboot.org/Welcome_to_coreboot
Grnfinger
03-13-2008, 02:25 PM
Seeing as no 1 will comment on bios 217 I can assume its no better?
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 02:36 PM
i believe i may have found the mother load.
everyone look here:
http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=52
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/showthread.php?t=529
a collection of tools:
http://www.lejabeach.com/sisubb/tool_8_RC1.rar
also would this work??;
http://www.coreboot.org/Welcome_to_coreboot
i read through all this about 230am this morning... still searching.
andyr(uk)
03-13-2008, 02:53 PM
Seeing as no 1 will comment on bios 217 I can assume its no better?
i flashed to it a few mins ago , cant say its any different tbh, priming as a go to check stability
Grnfinger
03-13-2008, 02:59 PM
i flashed to it a few mins ago , cant say its any different tbh, priming as a go to check stability
Thanks for the info.
I might wait for an "official" release
Seeing as no 1 will comment on bios 217 I can assume its no better?
Where was the 0217 link? I only saw the link for 0214?
ericab
03-13-2008, 03:03 PM
I have the Asus ES tool your after. No i will not give you it. However what you wanting done and i might be able to fit it in my work load and do it for ya
cmon Pete, hook us up!
Zucker2k
03-13-2008, 03:13 PM
Forget it, thought you meant afudos. Bios 217? Where is it?
ericab
03-13-2008, 03:16 PM
Think I got 217...
SmokeyTheBandit;
we need you!
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 03:18 PM
by the time i afudos that is an engineering version, i will be able to read chinese :p:
Zucker2k
03-13-2008, 03:18 PM
Thanks for the info.
I might wait for an "official" release
Maybe you mean, 214: I think it recovers more gracefully from failed overclocks and should help certain rams as it has max TRFC of 100+. Haven't done any serious test yet.
andyr(uk)
03-13-2008, 03:25 PM
on the asus website i think it shows the board will be released with 0215 so i think 0214 beta is all we will get untill release and etailers are showing expected stock on the 28th
BenchZowner
03-13-2008, 03:29 PM
I might have a newer version tomorrow.
Grnfinger
03-13-2008, 03:30 PM
Maybe you mean, 214: I think it recovers more gracefully from failed overclocks and should help certain rams as it has max TRFC of 100+. Haven't done any serious test yet.
errr.... yeah 214 thats it :yepp:
Guess thats why there were NO coments on the bios :ROTF:
Thanks I will test it out. Was looking for a higher trfc setting
Grnfinger
03-13-2008, 03:42 PM
did anyone take notice of what Everest is calling the board?
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/rms2.jpg
Yeah, my Everest has always called it that, since bios MF0505 (or that is when I noticed it...).
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 04:49 PM
well, ive searched for 8 hours non stop today for either an engineering version or 2.27... my search is about 10% done and im wiped out. more searching when i get home, ive got a headache from this :(
i think it would be easier to just mod the 2.21es version i posted to work with the newer bios'
i gotta throw everything in flexhex to see how different the code is between 2.21es and 2.26. my guess its just a little update between the 2 and some features disabled (not removed)
comparing the 2 i hope to find how to either enable the switches for later versions or update the microcode for the bios'
lior307
03-13-2008, 05:08 PM
People !!
Does any one increased his OC because of the Rampage Burning ??
Post your Results before and after turning to the Rampage
Maduk
03-13-2008, 05:19 PM
Would be really interesting to check maximum stable FSB on a quadcore with this bios. It will show if it's the maximus bios that s**ks or it is the PCB design
You have a problem with FSB on Maximus?
Would be really interesting to check maximum stable FSB on a quadcore with this bios. It will show if it's the maximus bios that s**ks or it is the PCB design
On ANY Maximus bios I could get to about 475ish before I couldn't even post, with Rampage bios I can get to 490 before no post with tighter ram timings and North Bridge performance level! :eek:
BenchZowner
03-13-2008, 05:32 PM
You have a problem with FSB on Maximus?
He is wondering if with the Rampage "mod" he could reach higher stable FSB with his CPU.
He didn't say that he can't get his Maximus to run his quad at XXX MHz FSB stable.
Grendel66
03-13-2008, 05:34 PM
I doubt that ES denotes an engineering version. From 2.21es above:
0000A978 oft Corp·········· !"#$%&'()0123@ABCDEP`p···············AMI Firmware
0000A9BC Update Utility - Version 1.19·(ASUS V2.21ES(05.09.06BB))·(ASUS V2.2
0000AA00 1(05.09.06BB))···Copyright (C)2003 American Megatrends, Inc. All ri
...
0000B4A0 ash write protect.··_TG_··rb·wb·r+b·rb·w+b····/o·/i·/n·/p·/q·/h·/k·/
0000B4E4 u·/s·r+b·%s %s %s·NO_FLASH_ERROR·ERROR_COMMAND_LINE·ERROR_NO_BIOS _SU
Same info for 2.36 from ASUS ftp:
0000B748 AMI Firmware Update Utility - Version 1.19·(ASUS V2.36ES(07.08.31BA)
0000B78C )·(ASUS V2.36(07.08.31BA))···Copyright (C)2003 American Megatrends,
...
0000C490 tect.··_TG_·rb·wb·r+b·rb·w+b····/o·/i·/n·/p·/q·/h·/k·/u·/s·r+b·%s %s
Unless 2.36 is an engineering version of course.. ;)
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 05:40 PM
I doubt that ES denotes an engineering version. From 2.21es above:
0000A978 oft Corp·········· !"#$%&'()0123@ABCDEP`p···············AMI Firmware
0000A9BC Update Utility - Version 1.19·(ASUS V2.21ES(05.09.06BB))·(ASUS V2.2
0000AA00 1(05.09.06BB))···Copyright (C)2003 American Megatrends, Inc. All ri
...
0000B4A0 ash write protect.··_TG_··rb·wb·r+b·rb·w+b····/o·/i·/n·/p·/q·/h·/k·/
0000B4E4 u·/s·r+b·%s %s %s·NO_FLASH_ERROR·ERROR_COMMAND_LINE·ERROR_NO_BIOS _SU
Same info for 2.36 from ASUS ftp:
0000B748 AMI Firmware Update Utility - Version 1.19·(ASUS V2.36ES(07.08.31BA)
0000B78C )·(ASUS V2.36(07.08.31BA))···Copyright (C)2003 American Megatrends,
...
0000C490 tect.··_TG_·rb·wb·r+b·rb·w+b····/o·/i·/n·/p·/q·/h·/k·/u·/s·r+b·%s %s
Unless 2.36 is an engineering version of course.. ;)
the versions i posted when used like
afudos /h
shows the (es) in dos, the 2.32 from the asus ftp does not show this. the ones that DID show it in dos you could use the switches, this is what i based my (es) theory on
@ kup
so what did you get your common performance level to?
Maduk
03-13-2008, 05:56 PM
with this mod
Your motherboard isn't x48
why do it?
more voltage?
or juste for see Rampage on valids
If you'd read the thread you'd know the benefits...
The performance goes up, as does overclockability for most people. And this is only with the initial Beta Rampage bios...
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 05:59 PM
with this mod
Your motherboard isn't x48
why do it?
more voltage?
or juste for see Rampage on valids
generally those of us who have done the mod noticed a few things
better memory performance *once tweaked by the new bios*
lower cpu volts to attain same stable speeds
higher fsb is attainable
@ kup
so what did you get your common performance level to?
ROCK SOLID @ 7 right now but going to try for 6 once these two WU are finished for Folding.
I need to read over the Anandtech article again to get the hang of these new settings and timings... :D
ericab
03-13-2008, 06:07 PM
@kup,
can you link me to that anardtech article with the rampage settings explanation?
@kup & Zen,
are you using 214 or 207 rampage bios with those perf levels?
sxs112
03-13-2008, 06:08 PM
Best New BIOS for 0219:D
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2323692948_010c3b7d7a_o.jpg
@kup,
can you link me to that anardtech article with the rampage settings explanation?
@kup & Zen,
are you using 214 or 207 rampage bios with those perf levels?
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208
And I'm on 0207 atm, will try 0214 (and now maybe 0219) tomorrow.
Best New BIOS for 0219:D
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2323692948_010c3b7d7a_o.jpg
Where from? Link?
I accidentally found a more simple way things can be foolproof part of the upgrade with the Friends of the Raymond almost to the file name changed fourmula.rom rampageformula
然後執行afudos /iloader.rom And the implementation of afudos / iloader.rom
更新到一半就會停掉...沒關係(硬關機都可以) Half will be to update turns off ... It does not matter (hardware can be shut down)
機器重開.就會跳到AI-OP工程讀取模式AI-OP MODE Machines reopened. Skip to the AI will read works-OP mode AI-OP MODE
會自動搜尋USB跟光碟剛剛不是有把RF的rom更名為formula.rom嗎 Will automatically search USB is not just a CD-ROM with the RF formula.rom renamed the rom?
AI-OP會自動讀取並更新BIOS AI-OP will be automatically read and updated BIOS
更新完會自動重開就會變成RF 2.07版了.... End update will be automatically re-opened, it will become the RF version 2.07 ....
無意中發現的....大家不用怕.用力刷下去就是了 Inadvertently found .... we do not have to fear. Forced Brush on yourself
Apparently the idea I put forward of just renaming the Rampage bios to FORMULA.ROM and corrupting the bios and then using CrashFree does work...
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 06:24 PM
Apparently the idea I put forward of just renaming the Rampage bios to FORMULA.ROM and corrupting the bios and then using CrashFree does work...
so this could be a possible way back then?
im still going to have some fun and try to patch afudos
so this could be a possible way back then?
im still going to have some fun and try to patch afudos
I can't quite make out whether the translation is saying it worked or theorising the same as me?
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 06:34 PM
I can't quite make out whether the translation is saying it worked or theorising the same as me?
your idea SHOULD work in theory, i dont like the idea of corrupting my bios to find out. yes, i am timid when it comes to my hardware, but i work in a mail center and make beans for cash so this mobo is expensive to me.
Tell you what, it's late here and I've got WU to complete and submit but I'll test it tomorrow, because I can flash back to the Rampage bios if it fails.
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 06:45 PM
Tell you what, it's late here and I've got WU to complete and submit but I'll test it tomorrow, because I can flash back to the Rampage bios if it fails.
i sincerely appreciate that kup. im sure everyone else feels the same way :up:
ChaosMinionX
03-13-2008, 06:49 PM
Taking the plunge tonight! :p:
ericab
03-13-2008, 07:02 PM
hey guys check it out
http://forum.pcdvd.com.tw/showthread.php?p=1080811005
looks like these Taiwanese folks are talking about the same thing we are...
wish i could understand whats being said, all i see are a bunch of question marks where their should be letters/words
Warboy
03-13-2008, 07:43 PM
hey guys check it out
http://forum.pcdvd.com.tw/showthread.php?p=1080811005 (http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.pcdvd.com.tw%2Fshow thread.php%3Fp%3D1080811005&langpair=zh|en&hl=en&ie=UTF8)
looks like these Taiwanese folks are talking about the same thing we are...
wish i could understand whats being said, all i see are a bunch of question marks where their should be letters/words
Fix'ed click that link now and see what happens.
Warboy
03-13-2008, 07:51 PM
Sorry for the Double post guys but Stilt, Once the ASUS Pinotnoir bios comes out on the FTP, Do you think you can do the Maximus extreme to Pinotnoir since they are the same board, I just looked over the pictures and my Maximus Extreme. They are the same, Just the things on the ASUS Pinotnoir are different colors, same PCB and same design and same everything, i looked over it all.
ericab
03-13-2008, 08:04 PM
so the pinot-noir is literally a maximus formula just w/ a red pcb ?
Zucker2k
03-13-2008, 08:21 PM
I think the Pinot Noir is a DDR3 board. It is also said to be an NV chipset (790i) based platform. ROFL.
Just had my first random reboot in several days since going to the Rampage bios. The only change to the system is the addition of a X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty.
I've been searching but is it known to cause any problems like reboots?
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 09:14 PM
holy crap i found a 2.29ES afudos :shocked:
im going to test it RIGHT NOW! :D :D :D :D :D
ericab
03-13-2008, 09:25 PM
holy crap i found a 2.29ES afudos :shocked:
im going to test it RIGHT NOW! :D :D :D :D :D
OMG OMG :hump: OMG OMG
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 09:30 PM
well guys here it is... the mystical afudos that guy wouldnt share.
confirmed 100% working, im back to maximus formula (need to reinstall windows though)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/unicorn.jpg
tested over 100 different downloads to find it but i got it! (tested most of it at work :P)
so if you ever are looking for the engineering versions, you can test afudos in windows command prompt for the version with afudos /h
look for the (ES) and you got gold :D
ericab
03-13-2008, 09:34 PM
ZENEFFECT!!!
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
(i was looking for many hours today too.... may i ask where you finally found it???)
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 10:57 PM
ZENEFFECT!!!
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
(i was looking for many hours today too.... may i ask where you finally found it???)
ftp search engine
click... afudos /h...click... afudos /h...click... afudos /h...click... afudos /h...click... afudos /h...click... afudos /h...
*edit*
back to rampage bios :-)
theonlybabyface
03-13-2008, 11:17 PM
ftp search engine
click... afudos /h...click... afudos /h...click... afudos /h...click... afudos /h...click... afudos /h...click... afudos /h...
*edit*
back to rampage bios :-)
Did you have to reinstall the OS going to the Rampage Bios or just when you went back to the Formula Bios?
ChaosMinionX
03-13-2008, 11:19 PM
Anyone got the 0219 BIOS?
ZenEffect
03-13-2008, 11:25 PM
Did you have to reinstall the OS going to the Rampage Bios or just when you went back to the Formula Bios?
switched back and forth. but i did reload the entire system before doing this :yepp:
and im back on the rampage bios
afudos /iromname.rom /n
peebi
03-13-2008, 11:45 PM
switched back and forth. but i did reload the entire system before doing this :yepp:
and im back on the rampage bios
afudos /iromname.rom /n
Can I type afudos /iromname.rom /n with my P5E + rampage rom
then it change to Rampage?
SmokeyTheBandit
03-13-2008, 11:49 PM
ZenEffect for President !!! :up:
Now working on my "new" P5E -> Maximus Formula -> Rampage Formula :eek: :D
There only a few thing you have to know :
- In the bios there is an 2nd LAN controller wich isn't on the board.
- You got the "light" options wich aren't on the board.
- LCD Poster options wich isn't on the board.
BUT !!! you got a hell of a lot options more to overclock the hell out of your board !!!
So in short ! P5E to Rampage --- Works !!!! (with 2.29ES afudos)
theonlybabyface
03-13-2008, 11:53 PM
switched back and forth. but i did reload the entire system before doing this :yepp:
and im back on the rampage bios
afudos /iromname.rom /n
Looks like I'm going to flash!!!
peebi
03-13-2008, 11:57 PM
ZenEffect for President !!! :up:
Now working on my "new" P5E -> Maximus Formula -> Rampage Formula :eek: :D
There only a few thing you have to know :
- In the bios there is an 2nd LAN controller wich isn't on the board.
- You got the "light" options wich aren't on the board.
- LCD Poster options wich isn't on the board.
BUT !!! you got a hell of a lot options more to overclock the hell out of your board !!!
So in short ! P5E to Rampage --- Works !!!! (with 2.29ES afudos)
good new
And how to change P5E to Rampage Step by Step Please
SmokeyTheBandit
03-13-2008, 11:59 PM
good new
And how to change P5E to Rampage Step by Step Please
Well you typed the correct command :)
afudos /iromname.rom /n
peebi
03-14-2008, 12:02 AM
Well you typed the correct command :)
afudos /iromname.rom /n
thank you
ChaosMinionX
03-14-2008, 12:05 AM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ChaosMinionX/Capture-18.jpg
Untweaked!
Im liking it.... to Stilt thanks a ton man. And to ZenEffect... Thanks for the new AFUDOS :)
:up: :up: :up: :up: :up:
More to come
socheat
03-14-2008, 12:13 AM
Will this Maximus Formula discontinue?
Why newegg deactivated this Mobo?
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131227
theonlybabyface
03-14-2008, 12:13 AM
Well did the flash and it was successful. However, cpu-z and everest both report the mobo as the Formula when the Rampage is obviously loaded. Did I miss a step?
Sebacestmoi
03-14-2008, 12:19 AM
you have to set RAID again in BIOS after updating. But that's all.
Ok So I won't loose any data?
I was thinking you must format an HDD to put it in an array of RAID 0...
ChaosMinionX
03-14-2008, 12:24 AM
Well did the flash and it was successful. However, cpu-z and everest both report the mobo as the Formula when the Rampage is obviously loaded. Did I miss a step?
Did you do the reboot into DOS and do WR1.bat and WR2.bat steps?
theonlybabyface
03-14-2008, 12:34 AM
That was it...thanks!! Now at Performance Level 7 with 8GB's @ 1066mhz. Nice...:D
ChaosMinionX
03-14-2008, 01:03 AM
That was it...thanks!! Now at Performance Level 7 with 8GB's @ 1066mhz. Nice...:D
Good call :)
p2501
03-14-2008, 01:18 AM
So to do this change back and forth between Rampage and Maximus you now only do the steps that The Stilt described in the OP with the AFUDOS version that ZenEffect provided and everything is good and working?
Spyrus
03-14-2008, 01:19 AM
If you have found a solution finally to revert plz do post it on first post
so as to be clear with all details. Thanx anyway!
andyr(uk)
03-14-2008, 01:37 AM
Yeah be good if someone could post how to go back and forth between the two , as i am an AFUDOS noob
The Stilt
03-14-2008, 01:51 AM
With AFUDOS 2.29ES running the .bat files is unneccessary.
Just use AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n
Spyrus
03-14-2008, 02:21 AM
@ChaosMinionX i remembered the problem you had with dividers.
Are everything ok with 'rampage'?
andyr(uk)
03-14-2008, 02:24 AM
anyone found bios 0219 yet ?
theonlybabyface
03-14-2008, 02:26 AM
Not yet but Bios 214 is working good though. :)
ante_ante
03-14-2008, 03:17 AM
Just use EZ-flash in bios and flash with 214 ?
With AFUDOS 2.29ES running the .bat files is unneccessary.
Just use AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n
So, just for clarification.....we ONLY need to do the above and nothing else now to flash TO the Rampage bios.....none of the other steps apply ??
Thanks :)
giorgos th.
03-14-2008, 03:44 AM
well yeah..it seems that you only need to do this.
diezel
03-14-2008, 03:47 AM
wow !! :shocked: great done mate :up:
dread77
03-14-2008, 04:23 AM
Is this mod working with Maximus Extreme?????:confused:
IN7OX
03-14-2008, 04:33 AM
With AFUDOS 2.29ES running the .bat files is unneccessary.
Just use AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n
so all i have to do to change to rampage is AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n
no need to use c:/afudos/iloader.rom
and enter ezflash and rampage.rom
i can just flash it direct with a rampage bios using AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n
Spyrus
03-14-2008, 04:38 AM
And also the reverse is done with same engineering version?
so all i have to do to change to rampage is AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n
no need to use c:/afudos/iloader.rom
and enter ezflash and rampage.rom
i can just flash it direct with a rampage bios using AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n
AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n
And also the reverse is done with same engineering version?
Indeed. Just the same as above, AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n
giorgos th.
03-14-2008, 04:58 AM
everything is in place within seconds...
flashed, cleared Cmos and maximus becomes rampage ;)
back to the old days of PAT flashing boards...got to love it :)
Renegade5399
03-14-2008, 05:11 AM
Ahh this is simply fantastic! Thanks to everyone! This no longer being a 1 way street is great. Again, thanks to all you guys for all the research!
giorgos th.
03-14-2008, 05:19 AM
PL5 with 1.5Vmch eeeeeeeasy...
IN7OX
03-14-2008, 05:27 AM
same here up and running with 1 command thanks
now back to prime
Mando84
03-14-2008, 05:31 AM
Is this mod working with Maximus Extreme?????:confused:
I want to know that too. But I guess it is impossible to tell since Rampage Extreme is yet to be released.
Spyrus
03-14-2008, 05:38 AM
@The Stilt:Can the bios be modified with tRFC value of 1 step and tREF option?
why would you not share the afudos?
I value my NDA, letalone my balls than my ex g/f sorting me out the NDA with ASUS. Also the fine and other losses i don't fancy.
cmon Pete, hook us up!
See above.
I offered to make a BIOS or something for ya, not to give you it.
Tell ya what, anyone that adds me in the next day relating to the program on MSN i will dump your IP to ASUS. I think it's highly rude and discrascefull of you asking me like you have.
On a good note, i have 2 more newer BETA BIOS for the bord, i have the bord here right now.
Im about to build my own personal rig back up which uses the MFSE bord and plan on doing the BIOS MOD as my ram worked at the uber high settings on the RF but not on the MFSE.
The BETA BIOS's i might be able to sort you out on as i've seen them leaked on other FTP sites and stuff in China (the bloody norm) and Thialand!
Oh and get the NB cool, cooler the better, more FSB, less Vmch, less PPL, higher clocks and tigther timings all round.
Pete
Warboy
03-14-2008, 06:26 AM
so the pinot-noir is literally a maximus formula just w/ a red pcb ?
wtf? red pcb? you mean red and silver heatsinks?
Anyways, Look for yourself
http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/ae64dd440c.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/Warboy/100_0736.jpg
They are the same, So the Pinotnoir is a X48 aka Rampage Extreme and the Maximus Extreme is the X38
Warboy;2839958']wtf? red pcb? you mean red and silver heatsinks?
They are the same, So the Pinotnoir is a X48 aka Rampage Extreme and the Maximus Extreme is the X38
Trust me, it's not the same as anything you've had. Imagen DFI making everthing for ASUS and your getting somewhere with the logical thinking on all aspects.
Then let think more but keep stum on it. Asus Pinotnoir is a kiss ass bord and really is nothing at all what so ever like the above.
Bios for it is more of a headach than being hit by a bus at 90mph. I love this bord so far
Warboy
03-14-2008, 07:20 AM
Trust me, it's not the same as anything you've had. Imagen DFI making everthing for ASUS and your getting somewhere with the logical thinking on all aspects.
Then let think more but keep stum on it. Asus Pinotnoir is a kiss ass bord and really is nothing at all what so ever like the above.
Bios for it is more of a headach than being hit by a bus at 90mph. I love this bord so far
Well then Pete, Want to point out the major difference on design besides the cooling system? because everything is the same down to every resistor and chip. So, Just like the Maximus Formula to the Rampage Formula, The Maximus Extreme to the Pinotnoir should do the same thing.
RobotDJX
03-14-2008, 07:30 AM
if you mean setting up a RAID config from scratch with disks already containing data you will loose the data. but if you already have a RAID config running and you update your BIOS the only thing you have to do afterwards is to set RAID again in the BIOS: Go to main, sata config, configure sata as: RAID.
Hope it helps.
Anyone got the 0219 BIOS?
Eat it ;]
http://rapidshare.de/files/38827325/RF0219.zip.html
zlojack
03-14-2008, 07:41 AM
Warboy;2840050']Well then Pete, Want to point out the major difference on design besides the cooling system? because everything is the same down to every resistor and chip. So, Just like the Maximus Formula to the Rampage Formula, The Maximus Extreme to the Pinotnoir should do the same thing.
Is the Pinot Noir not an nForce 790i chipset?
Warboy
03-14-2008, 07:48 AM
Is the Pinot Noir not an nForce 790i chipset?
There isn't a Rampage Extreme Covered is there and we are so close to Launch date? hmm? So the Pinot Noir has to be the X48 DDR3 Big brother to the Rampage Formula.
SmokeyTheBandit
03-14-2008, 07:52 AM
Warboy;2840050']Well then Pete, Want to point out the major difference on design besides the cooling system? because everything is the same down to every resistor and chip. So, Just like the Maximus Formula to the Rampage Formula, The Maximus Extreme to the Pinotnoir should do the same thing.
Pete is right a whole different ballgame ;)
http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/4/3/14/f_diffsm_6b2c1e2.jpg
giorgos th.
03-14-2008, 07:58 AM
i guess that Supreme FX is missing in the Pinotnoir....
Warboy
03-14-2008, 08:06 AM
Pete is right a whole different ballgame ;)
http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/4/3/14/f_diffsm_6b2c1e2.jpg
Look under the edge of the heatsink on the Chipset of the Pinot Noir, The area is the same. You can see the edge of the "missing" cap poking out.
So there is one x1 PCI e missing, that won't effect anything, since the X38/X48 can have alot of things, Its just the company's choice to add them or not. Their the same board when it comes down to it.
And some of the caps are moved sightly around, That wouldn't effected alot, so techically, There is only 1 cap missing.
XtremeTiramisu
03-14-2008, 08:10 AM
Quick Q: BIOS 0907 or 1004 for Q6600 G0 and 2x 1GB 1066 Ballistix Tracers?
The nForce 790i-powered Pinot Noir motherboard, part of the latest ASUS Republic of Gamers series, is now being showcased at CeBIT. What's uncommon about this motherboard is the unique water cooling solution for its major components. Furthermore this board can work with the latest Intel 45nm CPUs and utilize 4x DDR3 modules, three PCI-E 2.0 x16 slots and six SATA 3.0 Gbps connectors.
Sorry Warboy, but it's 790i...
SmokeyTheBandit
03-14-2008, 08:39 AM
Warboy;2840128']Look under the edge of the heatsink on the Chipset of the Pinot Noir, The area is the same. You can see the edge of the "missing" cap poking out.
So there is one x1 PCI e missing, that won't effect anything, since the X38/X48 can have alot of things, Its just the company's choice to add them or not. Their the same board when it comes down to it.
And some of the caps are moved sightly around, That wouldn't effected alot, so techically, There is only 1 cap missing.
So what your saying is there different boards .... :rolleyes: ;)
PWM area is very different to.
The reason why i flashed/tested my P5E is because of the fact it simply states "Maximus Formula" under the P5E sticker so production lines are equal.
The only difference are indeed some missing chips (2nd GB lan etc.) but no differences in important parts like chipset/voltage circuits etc.
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 08:46 AM
I value my NDA, letalone my balls than my ex g/f sorting me out the NDA with ASUS. Also the fine and other losses i don't fancy.
i did not know you were bound by nda. will sharing the beta bios' violate nda as well? sorry to ask but we are all anxious over here. :yepp:
*edit nevermind*
i think the ftp i got the 2.29SE was from china....
BenchZowner
03-14-2008, 08:55 AM
Sorry Warboy, but it's 790i...
That's wrong, it's not 790i.
Pinot Noir is X48.
The news over the net from Cebit saying it's a 790i motherboard are incorrect.
theonlybabyface
03-14-2008, 08:57 AM
Eat it ;]
http://rapidshare.de/files/38827325/RF0219.zip.html
Works great...no issues to report!:)
That's wrong, it's not 790i.
Pinot Noir is X48.
The news over the net from Cebit saying it's a 790i motherboard are incorrect.
I take it back then. I didn't think the Cebit reports would have been wrong but apparently they were.
Is there an ETA on the Pinot Noir?
ReverendMaynard
03-14-2008, 09:22 AM
it's a 790i, ASUS wouldn't put 3 PCIE slots on a high-end Intel X48 board that is toted to support CrossfireX....4 individual cards. Until I see proof, the 3 slots is a dead give away.
Warboy
03-14-2008, 09:25 AM
That's wrong, it's not 790i.
Pinot Noir is X48.
The news over the net from Cebit saying it's a 790i motherboard are incorrect.
Thanks BenchZowner
I take it back then. I didn't think the Cebit reports would have been wrong but apparently they were.
Is there an ETA on the Pinot Noir?
So knowing its the X48, Think it will be easy to Flash the Maximus Extreme to Pinot Noir? We need a Motherboard Analyzer to see if its possible, But there isn't that much of a difference and I would no way say "its a whole different ballpark", There is way too much similarities in the PCB, and Layout of the board to say no way.
it's a 790i, ASUS wouldn't put 3 PCIE slots on a high-end Intel X48 board that is toted to support CrossfireX....4 individual cards. Until I see proof, the 3 slots is a dead give away.
You want proof? look at my Maximus Extreme which is a X38....
http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/ae64dd440c.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/Warboy/100_0736.jpg
TAOTAO161
03-14-2008, 09:47 AM
hello all,
this is my rig
Q6600@3.6GHz G0+thermalright ultra 120+2 fans
asus maximus formula with 0907 bios
ocz platinum 800mhz@960
ocz powerstream 520w
CM stacker 831 silver
my settings are
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.55
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.62
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.2
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.58
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : DISABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : ENABLED
Vanderpool Technology :ENABLED
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
---------------------------------
what i don't understand is why i cant go above 400MHz bus, if i rise it to 401 the system go and restart and like that when i rise all the settings.
i try to lower my memory speed, rise the voltage of the PLL to 1.7, NB 1.6, FSB to 1.64 and so on, nothing help.
anybody have some advise ??
Works great...no issues to report!:)
Good to know ;-)
Pinot Noir - it would never be released :ROTF:
ReverendMaynard
03-14-2008, 09:57 AM
Warboy;2840275']Thanks BenchZowner
So knowing its the X48, Think it will be easy to Flash the Maximus Extreme to Pinot Noir? We need a Motherboard Analyzer to see if its possible, But there isn't that much of a difference and I would no way say "its a whole different ballpark", There is way too much similarities in the PCB, and Layout of the board to say no way.
You want proof? look at my Maximus Extreme which is a X38....
http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/ae64dd440c.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/Warboy/100_0736.jpg
that pretty much sums it up, thanks.
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 10:03 AM
hello all,
this is my rig
Q6600@3.6GHz G0+thermalright ultra 120+2 fans
asus maximus formula with 0907 bios
ocz platinum 800mhz@960
ocz powerstream 520w
CM stacker 831 silver
my settings are
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.55
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.62
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.2
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.58
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : DISABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : ENABLED
Vanderpool Technology :ENABLED
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
---------------------------------
what i don't understand is why i cant go above 400MHz bus, if i rise it to 401 the system go and restart and like that when i rise all the settings.
i try to lower my memory speed, rise the voltage of the PLL to 1.7, NB 1.6, FSB to 1.64 and so on, nothing help.
anybody have some advise ??
set the fsb strap to 400 instead of auto, i had the same problem :up:
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 10:09 AM
i dont blame pete's response. it appears he was bombarded with msn messages trying to get the afudos and he is tired of having his ethics and morals questioned. just leave him be and mabye he will save us some work and play ball, if not... then we will just find the stuff a few hours later anyways :rolleyes:
ericab
03-14-2008, 10:11 AM
i dont blame pete's response. it appears he was bombarded with msn messages trying to get the afudos and he is tired of it. just leave him be and mabye he will save us some work and play ball, if not... then we will just find the stuff a few hours later anyways :rolleyes:
:cool:
hell yeah.
we dont need you pete.
Zucker2k
03-14-2008, 10:15 AM
i dont blame pete's response. it appears he was bombarded with msn messages trying to get the afudos and he is tired of having his ethics and morals questioned. just leave him be and mabye he will save us some work and play ball, if not... then we will just find the stuff a few hours later anyways :rolleyes:
I didn't send him an msn message, I pm'ed him AFTER he offered to "sort [us] out."!
mirror 219 bios
http://rapidshare.com/files/99518261/Rampage_Formula_219.zip
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 10:18 AM
I didn't send him an msn message, I pm'ed him AFTER he offered to "sort [us] out."!
i didnt mean you specifically, i meant as a generalization according to what he wrote earlier.
tommithy
03-14-2008, 10:25 AM
hello all,
this is my rig
Q6600@3.6GHz G0+thermalright ultra 120+2 fans
asus maximus formula with 0907 bios
ocz platinum 800mhz@960
ocz powerstream 520w
CM stacker 831 silver
my settings are
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.55
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.62
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.2
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.58
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : DISABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : ENABLED
Vanderpool Technology :ENABLED
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
---------------------------------
what i don't understand is why i cant go above 400MHz bus, if i rise it to 401 the system go and restart and like that when i rise all the settings.
i try to lower my memory speed, rise the voltage of the PLL to 1.7, NB 1.6, FSB to 1.64 and so on, nothing help.
anybody have some advise ??
Set FSB Strap to 400 (like it's already been mentioned)
Set Dram Static Read Control to Disable
Set AI Clock Twister to Strong
Set Transaction Booster to Disable, Relax level 1
I think your FSB Term voltage is too high as well. I would lower it down to the 1.4x range.
newls1
03-14-2008, 10:27 AM
hello all,
this is my rig
Q6600@3.6GHz G0+thermalright ultra 120+2 fans
asus maximus formula with 0907 bios
ocz platinum 800mhz@960
ocz powerstream 520w
CM stacker 831 silver
my settings are
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.55
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.62
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.2
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.58
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : DISABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : ENABLED
Vanderpool Technology :ENABLED
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
---------------------------------
what i don't understand is why i cant go above 400MHz bus, if i rise it to 401 the system go and restart and like that when i rise all the settings.
i try to lower my memory speed, rise the voltage of the PLL to 1.7, NB 1.6, FSB to 1.64 and so on, nothing help.
anybody have some advise ??
your CPU Vcore is also WAY to HIGH for a "G0" Q6600. I'll bet you can achieve 3.6GHz using 1.40-1.450 Vcore:up:
ninogui
03-14-2008, 10:29 AM
hi guys
so setting strap to 400 is more stable then auto? i would like to try that out, as i seem to find a wall for 9x multi, i´m running 8x442 stable at 1.437 volt, pll=1.61 nb=1.51, and for 9x400 i only tried up until 1.48volt pll1.64 nb1.55 and no go.
My rams are operating at 1178 5-5-5-15 clocktw moderate transB. disabl.0 at 2.28 bios volt (2.37 everest), with fan on top, i know i could squeeze a bit more juice if able to go 400x9. Presently i cant go higher then everest mem bench 9949 read 48.7 latency with 2.28volt. i would like to hit the 10k mark.
As im only on air, although quita a good flow, do u think i could try going over 1.55 cpuvolt.?
pretty stupid, runing stable at 3.536Ghz but not being able to easily go to 2.6Ghz. lolol
btw, completely off-topic sorry, but am already playing assass. creed!! rld release .. looks amazing yupee
rgds
Zucker2k
03-14-2008, 10:52 AM
Eat it ;]
http://rapidshare.de/files/38827325/RF0219.zip.html
Thanks pmp. One obvious change is that CPU GTL is now raised to 67... should help quads I should think. Update went smooth using EZflash, no need to clear cmos or anything. :up:
ChaosMinionX
03-14-2008, 10:53 AM
I think you guys are getting a little to carried away with Pete's posts, give the man a break. He is under NDA, if you had one you would understand it as well that he cant really give anything out.
Just let the new stuff trickle out, you will eventually have it, and nobody gets penalized for leaking it.
====================
Anyways, 0219 works fine. Testing tonight.
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 10:57 AM
I think you guys are getting a little to carried away with Pete's posts, give the man a break. He is under NDA, if you had one you would understand it as well that he cant really give anything out.
Just let the new stuff trickle out, you will eventually have it, and nobody gets penalized for leaking it.
====================
Anyways, 0219 works fine. Testing tonight.
thats what im saying...
i happen to value my balls too :yepp:
Renegade5399
03-14-2008, 11:02 AM
Don't we all?
Warboy;2840050']Well then Pete, Want to point out the major difference on design besides the cooling system? because everything is the same down to every resistor and chip. So, Just like the Maximus Formula to the Rampage Formula, The Maximus Extreme to the Pinotnoir should do the same thing.
As i said i have my reasons why i can't which is due to my NDA but the PCB is not the same at all. Take the 2 bord and hold them up in the light and look at the traces. All shorter, more, a lot lot more of them. Letalone other things. BIOS is nothing like what we have right now.
i did not know you were bound by nda. will sharing the beta bios' violate nda as well? sorry to ask but we are all anxious over here. :yepp:
*edit nevermind*
i think the ftp i got the 2.29SE was from china....
I try to keep it hush to what im working on and with whom as i get asked, can i sell this, can i get them this, do this do that etc etc. It's bad enough with the missies asking for stuff and the kids and then the guys in my day job. Letalone guy and gals online i don't really know. BETA once it's passed a testing phase or i catch wind of it being someplace i'll shear it as ASUS let them out but they do take forever to let the BETA i have right now for the MF/SE to you guys.
2.29 SE is old! Sorry
So I send him a pm, and.....
Isn't that amazing? By the way, if you weren't going to share, why even bother bringing up the subject anyway? What are you after? Fame? Just read over the thread again, and you'll see that this thread has been about sharing from the beginning; however, when The Stilt decided it was not a good idea to share the ES version of afudos, he made that clear. You stated in clear ink you would "sort [us] out", adding the bioses were on some Thai and Chinese ftps; when I call you up on your offer, you decide to go bonkers? I encourage you, to report the issue, and I'll encourage you to give whatever info you deem necessary to ASUS... oooh I'm quaking in my seat. Your attitude is entirely opposite to the spirit of this thread. Period.
Yeah as im sick of being baggered but a bunch of low lifes (no offence to all) but NDA is a contract, break it and pay the price. Just think outside the box your mobo came in for once about that! I offered to toy with some BIOS, to maybe try and find means and ways inwhich we can flash to and from keeping it all nice and sweet!
i dont blame pete's response. it appears he was bombarded with msn messages trying to get the afudos and he is tired of having his ethics and morals questioned. just leave him be and mabye he will save us some work and play ball, if not... then we will just find the stuff a few hours later anyways :rolleyes:
PM, MSN, E-mail, a TXT from a few in the UK, if i find it out there then i will shear it here.
I think you guys are getting a little to carried away with Pete's posts, give the man a break. He is under NDA, if you had one you would understand it as well that he cant really give anything out.
Just let the new stuff trickle out, you will eventually have it, and nobody gets penalized for leaking it.
====================
Anyways, 0219 works fine. Testing tonight.
Need more people like you that understand what a contract is.
0219 is a nice clean and stable BIOS. Still found tweaks needed to be done.
I've got some time in the week hopefull to flash mine and stuff. Bord is nearly dead anyway so i will give it some abuse and see what i can find for you all.
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 11:32 AM
pete, yes i know 2.29es is old... but it works and thats all that counts really :up:
here is a better way you can "leak" some stuff and not violate nda. just tell us what version you have and the file name. not asking to upload or anything. pretty much what that does is to set us on a quest to just find it already leaked. if you cant do that its ok too, i understand nda and the whole workload thing. just saying that you had the es version was enough to make me go find one *confirmation of existance*.
btw how do you get these mobo's and get locked into nda with asus anyways? i cant even get so much as an email back from them for anything :(
Warboy
03-14-2008, 11:39 AM
As i said i have my reasons why i can't which is due to my NDA but the PCB is not the same at all. Take the 2 bord and hold them up in the light and look at the traces. All shorter, more, a lot lot more of them. Letalone other things. BIOS is nothing like what we have right now.
Well, I don't have the board so I don't know how you want me to compare them, But they are still the same. I don't see How you think the traces are Shorter? They boards have the same layout. Unless you wanna try to point it out, I can't see how they are different, All the other things one person pointed out are already explained.
adrenaline7879
03-14-2008, 11:42 AM
Can someone come touch my hard drive?
giorgos th.
03-14-2008, 11:51 AM
Guuuuuuuuys.......
any mem testing yet?
ericab
03-14-2008, 11:53 AM
well i made the jump to Rampage Formula 0219.
sofar i was able to take my cpu voltage down 2 notches! however i have yet to PRIME it, but everything booted well.
only problem im having is with my memory.
ive experienced some pretty bad bandwith decreases, as well as latency.
here is before:
Maximus Bios v907:
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3977/maximusformuladm4.th.png (http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maximusformuladm4.png)
Rampage Bios v219
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2125/rampagede9.th.png (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rampagede9.png)
ChaosMinionX
03-14-2008, 11:58 AM
Need more people like you that understand what a contract is.
0219 is a nice clean and stable BIOS. Still found tweaks needed to be done.
I have an NDA myself, Things are a little different when you put your signature to papers :up:
Anyways Pete, you do any testing with the transaction booster pull in settings? I am thinking of playing with them, but I am unsure.
Thanks pmp. One obvious change is that CPU GTL is now raised to 67... should help quads I should think. Update went smooth using EZflash, no need to clear cmos or anything. :up:
The increased GTL didn't seem to help me. In what way should it help? Just stabilise the clocks more or decrease required voltage?
giorgos th.
03-14-2008, 12:01 PM
mmmm strange....this is with my 24/7 settings.
newls1
03-14-2008, 12:01 PM
Can someone come touch my hard drive?
WTH:rolleyes:
sup3rfly
03-14-2008, 12:05 PM
hi, i m gonna flash my maximus to rampage soon...just wondering do u guys still follow stilt's steps or just simply type in AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n and ifilename.rom would be the bios file??? no more entering to ezflash to flash anymore right?
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 12:06 PM
The increased GTL didn't seem to help me. In what way should it help? Just stabilise the clocks more or decrease required voltage?
should help stabilizing a higher fsb oc... or at least this was my experience with the abit ip35-pro i had.
anandtech article for the p5e3 premium says their gtl goes up to .7 something with much finer increments which i would like to see in the ramage bios.
@ sup3rfly
correct. just afudos now.
@ giorgos th.
you need to mess with transaction booster and common performance level. i noticed a drop from switching to a rampage, but once i toyed with these settings and made sure its stable, i got better bandwidth than i could with the maximus.
Interesting problem here...
vPLL = Auto = No random reboots + 24/7 stable for weeks and weeks
vPLL = Manually set to the same as Auto (1.61v in this case) and I get random reboots within 5 hours and can repeat as and when I choose to manually set it again...
ericab
03-14-2008, 12:12 PM
Zen;
can i get your bios settings? looks like we have similar setups..
andyr(uk)
03-14-2008, 12:12 PM
The piotnoir , i read that its going to be both 790 and x48 variants
Leeghoofd
03-14-2008, 12:12 PM
Quick Q: BIOS 0907 or 1004 for Q6600 G0 and 2x 1GB 1066 Ballistix Tracers?
Both work fine Tiramisu... I ran the Q6600 on 0907 and also with the QX9650 no issues... updated to 1003 hell broke loose... reflashed back to 0907 all fine, now tested 1004 and it runs fine with Q6600 and my Gskills 4gig kit... no worries... I think Kup advises to use 0505 for Q6600...
sup3rfly
03-14-2008, 12:16 PM
1. boot from usb
2. AFUDOS /RF0219.rom /pbnc /n
3. done
correct? just to confirm :P
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 12:16 PM
Zen;
can i get your bios settings? looks like we have similar setups..
sorry but i cant as im at work and dont remember the exact settings. i dont like to give bad info so i will post back later today *about 5 hours 45 min or so* with the settings.
I think Kup advises to use 0505 for Q6600...
Indeed. I've had my best Quad experiences to date on the 0505 bios.
ericab
03-14-2008, 12:18 PM
sorry but i cant as im at work and dont remember the exact settings. i dont like to give bad info so i will post back later today *about 5 hours 45 min or so* with the settings.
cool; no problem
@sup3rfly,
no,
you forgot the /i....
so it would look EXACTLY like this:
AFUDOS /iRF0219.rom /pbnc /n
**edit**
btw, 20 minutes in on PRIME small FFT's
and rock solid stable, with 2 notches lower CPU voltage! :D
sup3rfly
03-14-2008, 12:20 PM
alrite got it thx :)
giorgos th.
03-14-2008, 12:24 PM
@ giorgos th.
you need to mess with transaction booster and common performance level. i noticed a drop from switching to a rampage, but once i toyed with these settings and made sure its stable, i got better bandwidth than i could with the maximus.
PL5 with phases 1-2 disabled on both channels...and a bit loose subs...
10000mb/s seems pretty more than the result of the formula..
Grnfinger
03-14-2008, 12:24 PM
would anyone care to share there memory settings?
that pull in/out isnt making sense to me, If I play with it I get the "det dram" hang, then it takes forever b4 the pc will boot again.
Frustrating as hell. Finally had the Maximus sorted now its back to start again with Rampage
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 12:27 PM
would anyone care to share there memory settings?
that pull in/out isnt making sense to me, If I play with it I get the "det dram" hang, then it takes forever b4 the pc will boot again.
Frustrating as hell. Finally had the Maximus sorted now its back to start again with Rampage
from what i noticed having the pull in/out enabled sets the actual performance level to 1 number lower, so a pl of 6 with pull in/out enabled makes a pl 5
giorgos th.
03-14-2008, 12:31 PM
yes but without actually changing the internal mobo timings i guess....
correct me if i`m wrong..
Zucker2k
03-14-2008, 12:33 PM
The increased GTL didn't seem to help me. In what way should it help? Just stabilise the clocks more or decrease required voltage?
Helps with max fsb; requirements defer from cpu to cpu.
Spyrus
03-14-2008, 12:33 PM
Check this out about Rampage settings:
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=3
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 12:36 PM
yes but without actually changing the internal mobo timings i guess....
correct me if i`m wrong..
thats right :yepp:
ericab
03-14-2008, 12:36 PM
would anyone care to share there memory settings?
that pull in/out isnt making sense to me, If I play with it I get the "det dram" hang, then it takes forever b4 the pc will boot again.
Frustrating as hell. Finally had the Maximus sorted now its back to start again with Rampage
im with Grnfinger here too...
im getting some mixed results. DET RAM errors all over the place with similar settings i had used on the maximus BIOS... on the other hand however, cpu voltage is now lower, and amazingly, my load temps dropped 2 Celsius on full load~!!
giorgos th.
03-14-2008, 12:42 PM
its easy...imagine that you give pl5 with all phases disabled...you still have pl5
if you give pl5 with phases enabled you actually have pl4......
soooo,with fe 400fsb you`ll work with pl5-disabled...but not with pl5-enabled...too tight..
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 12:42 PM
im with Grnfinger here too...
im getting some mixed results. DET RAM errors all over the place with similar settings i had used on the maximus BIOS... on the other hand however, cpu voltage is now lower, and amazingly, my load temps dropped 2 Celsius on full load~!!
set to cas4 and try again
Jupiler
03-14-2008, 12:44 PM
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Flaming or inciting flaming (also known as flame baiting) will not be tolerated, no exceptions. This includes references to bodily harm/violence.
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I presume these rules are still clear (in case some of you have forgotten them).
Keep it clean, thx.
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 12:48 PM
flame bait... lol sounds like an underage homosexual. (no offense to anybody, i just thought it was funny)
Arcanedeath
03-14-2008, 12:49 PM
This looks promising I'm not sure If I have time to tweak everything again though. /sigh I wish Asus would release a decent bios for the Maximus Formula but when I get more time I suppose this hack is in order :) Thanks for all the work on this guys, this is a thread to follow.
ericab
03-14-2008, 12:51 PM
I presume these rules are still clear (in case some of you have forgotten them).
Keep it clean, thx.
Note taken. Sorry Jupiler.
as for Pete; *Censored*
Grnfinger
03-14-2008, 01:13 PM
Note taken. Sorry Jupiler.
as for Pete; :moon:
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/Spit_on_Moniter.jpg
Grnfinger
03-14-2008, 01:15 PM
Sorry double post here.
Just loaded 219 and my bandwidth is :banana::banana::banana::banana:. Same setting and major crap here.
If I post my memory setting can someone with a tad more understanding of these new bios settings hold my hand and walk me through it?
ericab
03-14-2008, 01:17 PM
Grnfinger;
hehe
also,
i just upped my B/W by a bunch....
send me ur mem settings and ill compare the 2 of ours.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/412/cachememsm2.th.png (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cachememsm2.png)
^---- still worse then my maximus bios by far...
w/ maximus, i was lookin at about 9600 M/B/s :(
HousERaT
03-14-2008, 01:18 PM
You trailblazers have big ones, I'll give you that much.
I'm waiting for more results before I take the plunge.
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5126/everestco2.jpg
How's that look? PL7, no pull down. Bios 0219.
Grnfinger
03-14-2008, 01:51 PM
Grnfinger;
hehe
also,
i just upped my B/W by a bunch....
send me ur mem settings and ill compare the 2 of ours.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/412/cachememsm2.th.png (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cachememsm2.png)
^---- still worse then my maximus bios by far...
w/ maximus, i was lookin at about 9600 M/B/s :(
Thanks
I was able to tweak abit and have managed to get respectable bandwidth again, but however I would like to run 4-5-5-15 to reduce latency if possible.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/newrmp.png
Anyways my wife has my camera atm so here is basically my mem settings
5-5-5-15-3-40-6-3
All other settings are AUTO
Dram Static = Auto
Clock Twister = stronger
Trans Booster = Auto
ericab
03-14-2008, 03:03 PM
anyone else notice that their north/south bridge temperatures aren't being read properly ?
(ive reinstalled everest already...)
running small fft's, the temps stay at 38C and 29C, regardless of the time prime95 runs...
anyone else notice that their north/south bridge temperatures aren't being read properly ?
(ive reinstalled everest already...)
running small fft's, the temps stay at 38C and 29C, regardless of the time prime95 runs...
Mine are fine...
Spyrus
03-14-2008, 03:35 PM
Same bandwidth here with same setting and phases off.
I am a happy maximus rampage. Bios@0219
kevinali
03-14-2008, 03:58 PM
i have just flashed to the 0907 bios and here goes the stories
1. the second ethernet controller does not work, i have enabled it in the bios, windows device manager sees only the first ethernet controller
2. I have manually set the dimm voltage to 1.8v and the led dimm voltage indicator is now red??
3. Under the power bios option, the CPU PLL voltage is reading 3.20 V in red (i have manually set this to the lowest setting)
4. The dimm voltage is reading 0.0 v in the power menu
5. North bridge voltage is 0.00 V in the power menu (i have 8 gb ram so i set it manually to 1.41v)
6. DDR Reference voltage is aslo reading 0.0V
I did have to increase the vcore to 1.2875 to get my Q6700 stable at 333 x 10 with bios 0907, under 0505 i was able to get away with 1.2750 to get it stable at 3.33Ghz
Should i rma the board for possible defective lan 2 and sensor failure
Kevin
Kevin that sounds like either a duff board or a partial bad flash. Clear the CMOS, flash again, clear the CMOS again and re-input your settings.
kevinali
03-14-2008, 04:14 PM
i would like to downgrade to the 505 bios....when i tried to do the usb flash method...it said that the bios is older and stops...any techniques to downgrading the bios
Can i bood with my original dvd and try to reflash that way
Kevin
There are two ways to do it, rename 0505 to FORMULA.ROM and load it on a USB stick. Reflash 0907 and turn it off while it's flashing, this will corrupt it. When it boots up it will read FORMULA.ROM from the USB stick and reflash it automatically to 0505.
Or use the method described in the first post.
giorgos th.
03-14-2008, 04:46 PM
are you guys experimenting with the sub-timings also?
first of all try giving values through bios..it gives better results in terms of bandwidth..
second try to play with the actual PL not the PL - phases enabled...
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 04:59 PM
There are two ways to do it, rename 0505 to FORMULA.ROM and load it on a USB stick. Reflash 0907 and turn it off while it's flashing, this will corrupt it. When it boots up it will read FORMULA.ROM from the USB stick and reflash it automatically to 0505.
Or use the method described in the first post.
or you can use afudos /n switch :p:
Same bandwidth here with same setting and phases off.
I am a happy maximus rampage. Bios@0217
Nice, I might look into that this weekend, Board dies I'm fine by that. New DFi X48 coming out would be a suitable replacement if I screw up lol.
Interesting problem here...
vPLL = Auto = No random reboots + 24/7 stable for weeks and weeks
vPLL = Manually set to the same as Auto (1.61v in this case) and I get random reboots within 5 hours and can repeat as and when I choose to manually set it again...
That's kind of crazy, my buddy just got the non SE version of this board with a quad. I didn't recommend it, but for troubleshooting I'll get a chance to see if I got a junk board when I rebuild my loop this weekend.
That's kind of crazy, my buddy just got the non SE version of this board with a quad. I didn't recommend it, but for troubleshooting I'll get a chance to see if I got a junk board when I rebuild my loop this weekend.
That's what I thought too, but I've tested it and I can introduce instability just manually setting it. I tested it briefly on the Maximus bios and it was the same on that too.
kevinali
03-14-2008, 06:07 PM
I just flashed to bios 1003....i has to set all my voltages to auto to get into windows...once there cpu-z is reporting 1.280 v for my cpu...i cannot tell what the bios levels are, because all i get is 0.0v for everything under the POWER hardware monitoring section of the bios...the Vdimm led is still red and enabling LAN 2 has no difference...windows does not see it and plugging in a lan cable into LAN 2 has no activity light...i suspect it is dead
Is there any danger with setting all key voltages to auto
kevin
Spyrus
03-14-2008, 06:08 PM
are you guys experimenting with the sub-timings also?
first of all try giving values through bios..it gives better results in terms of bandwidth..
second try to play with the actual PL not the PL - phases enabled...
Which subtimings? Can you be more specific what have you changed?
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 06:40 PM
I just flashed to bios 1003....i has to set all my voltages to auto to get into windows...once there cpu-z is reporting 1.280 v for my cpu...i cannot tell what the bios levels are, because all i get is 0.0v for everything under the POWER hardware monitoring section of the bios...the Vdimm led is still red and enabling LAN 2 has no difference...windows does not see it and plugging in a lan cable into LAN 2 has no activity light...i suspect it is dead
Is there any danger with setting all key voltages to auto
kevin
probably not but it sounds like rma time for your mobo. i still think it might be a bad flash though. reset everything to default settings and use afudos to flash
ZenEffect
03-14-2008, 07:43 PM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/timings.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/Picture003.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/Picture002.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/Picture001-1.jpg
those 2 pull ins that are disabled are now enabled... i just noticed it when uploading the pics
sorry for the large pics
zaracattle
03-14-2008, 09:01 PM
Hi guys...Can you tell me more about how to come back maximus from Rampage ? Step by step plz....Thanks very much...
Yay for Cheese
03-14-2008, 10:08 PM
I'm having a big problem right now. My USB keyboard won't work in the startup anymore so I can't change the BIOS. I've tried using a PS/2 keyboard but that doesn't seem to work in the startup as well. I'm deciding if I should flash my BIOs or not since nothing else seems to be working.
I fixed it. <3 Asus Update
sup3rfly
03-14-2008, 11:29 PM
Hi guys...Can you tell me more about how to come back maximus from Rampage ? Step by step plz....Thanks very much...
i suppose it will be like....
AFUDOS /iMF0907.rom /pbnc /n
p/s: lets say ur bios file name is MF0907.rom
diezel
03-14-2008, 11:32 PM
:yepp: back
giorgos th.
03-15-2008, 12:52 AM
Which subtimings? Can you be more specific what have you changed?
1st information into bios.
from RAS to RAS delay untill the end Spyrus.
@ZenEffect do you have 3 dimms on your pc or 2?
sxs112
03-15-2008, 01:16 AM
Pete is right a whole different ballgame ;)
http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/4/3/14/f_diffsm_6b2c1e2.jpg
Pinotnoir is New Generation 16-Phase Power Design
diezel
03-15-2008, 02:43 AM
no way back
Spyrus
03-15-2008, 03:17 AM
@diezel ?? what happened?
For my memory and as seen in ZenEffect picture Skew needs to be normal.
With enhanced gives some errors and with disabled no boot (tested only max and min values).
Also auto gives errors again.
Seems that twister can be set strong with ease with no additional nb voltage.
But since stronger is a new option i wonder if moderate/strong is the same and stronger is the old strong option...
IN7OX
03-15-2008, 03:54 AM
hi, i m gonna flash my maximus to rampage soon...just wondering do u guys still follow stilt's steps or just simply type in AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n and ifilename.rom would be the bios file??? no more entering to ezflash to flash anymore right?
thats all i did m8 just used AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n
worked a treat
Renegade5399
03-15-2008, 04:36 AM
Well fired up 0219 last night. At first, I thought it was trash. Fact is, I just have to re-learn how to tweak the BIOS. After dedicating some time to figure out all the extra settings, I got 2x1GB 1066 Ballistix running at 1200 with a trans booster Performance Level setting of 7 so far and Clock Twister set to Stronger, Static Read disabled. Overall I am seeing a small improvement in scores. The biggest thing for me though is the stability at 502*8. When it was a Maximus, it would randomly reboot when using the 8 multi and 500+ FSB. It would be OCCT and Prime stable for hours, but every now and again while folding, it would reboot. This has not happened since the conversion to Rampage. This BIOS seems pretty good, everything runs smooth.
[timko]
03-15-2008, 05:14 AM
I'm having a big problem right now. My USB keyboard won't work in the startup anymore so I can't change the BIOS. I've tried using a PS/2 keyboard but that doesn't seem to work in the startup as well.
I've had this happen to me a few times before. I tried the clear cmos button on the back panel and also the switch just above the south bridge. Both did not work.
The only way I solved it was to release the CMOS battery, leave it about a minute, put it back in and restart. All settings revert to default of course but at least the keyboard works. I don't see why neither of the clear cmos switches work since they are supposed to do effectively what pulling the battery does.
Spyrus
03-15-2008, 05:25 AM
Seems like strong is different than moderate.
So i made a mistake.
Tweaking further...
giorgos th.
03-15-2008, 05:29 AM
Testing between PL5 - phases disabled and PL6 - phases enabled.
All of the tests were made with identical settings of hardware and without any win tweaking..
Just configured bios and booted.
The only thing i used was setfsb cause i booted at 399fsb to see if anything changed between the 2 PLs.
First Everest cache&mem bench.
PL5&disabled
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/8021/cache5gi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
PL6&enabled
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6164/cache6ne1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
WinRar next.
PL5&disabled
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2851/rar5rv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
PL6&enabled
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4534/rar6oy2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
And some super pi 32m.
PL5&disabled
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3682/32m5yy4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
PL6&enabled
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7351/32m6bm0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
miptzi
03-15-2008, 05:55 AM
man, I HATE this mobo!
Yeah, I'm a noob, but I was thinking better motherboards should make things easier, not the hell on earth!
Tried everything, can't get even some 3.0ghz. No BOOT, on ANY settings suggested here, nor even the ANANDtech suggestion.
Nothing work! I'm really pissed! Now all I want is some good, big axe, to chop it to bits.
my set should make it easy.
q6600 G0,
2x1gb XMS2 800mhz,
TRUE 2x120mm
If someone solve it for me, thanks!
just wanting some 3.4 - 3.5ghz
I think I should go back to Abit :(
Leeghoofd
03-15-2008, 06:10 AM
Either you got a dud mobo or some other hardware is hindering ya OC, really 3ghz is a no brainer...
Secondly you give us very little input here, I too can tell ya my cat is sick and... what can you do about it ?....
We need a full list of ya hardware, bios version used, fill in the template of the bios, temps you are getting...
zlojack
03-15-2008, 06:29 AM
http://www.china-handles.com/productsimages/A613Axewithhandle_5788.jpg
I think this is probably your best solution :p:
But in all seriousness, list your full hardware and give us more to work with and I'm sure there are people here who can help if your board isn't a dud.
ante_ante
03-15-2008, 10:03 AM
Just flashed to bios 0219. Used the exact settings that i used in bios 0207 and now it wont boot. And one more thing is that i can only boot if i leave the vcore on auto when overclocking. Have i missed something ??
Darkstormz
03-15-2008, 10:54 AM
Just flashed to bios 0219. Used the exact settings that i used in bios 0207 and now it wont boot. And one more thing is that i can only boot if i leave the vcore on auto when overclocking. Have i missed something ??
Works like a charm here.
Did you re-do your settings from scratch again ?
giorgos th.
03-15-2008, 11:18 AM
Just flashed to bios 0219. Used the exact settings that i used in bios 0207 and now it wont boot. And one more thing is that i can only boot if i leave the vcore on auto when overclocking. Have i missed something ??
do a manual clear cmos (green button) and try again..
if you can,dont load a profile or sth..put the settings one by one again.
MaXXimus
03-15-2008, 11:19 AM
Anyone here help me with Extreme Tweaker settings to mildly OC my QX9650 on the Formula with Corsair 2x2GB PC8500? Hoping to get somewhere in the neighborhood of 3.6GHz - 3.8GHz while on air.
Zucker2k
03-15-2008, 11:34 AM
Just flashed back to MF bios 1004. When I first tried this bios some days back, all overclocks reverted to stock on post. This time around, it works!
Anyway, this is 8x495, 8x498, 8x500 (E8400), with 1.51 VNB, PL7
8x505 1.55 VNB PL7
Edit: Full ram settings: 5-5-5-15-3-35-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Could someone run this identical settings in RF and let's see what the difference could possibly be? Thanks.
ante_ante
03-15-2008, 12:05 PM
Works like a charm here.
Did you re-do your settings from scratch again ?
Put in excact same settings that i used before. Coming to when windows starts, then just reboot.
Manual clear cmos " green button " do no what ya mean :) Tell me how to do .....
giorgos th.
03-15-2008, 12:08 PM
in the back side (IO shield) the mobo has a green clear cmos button..
turn off your pc and push it a few times.then try again putting the settings manually.
SWFLTrader
03-15-2008, 12:32 PM
Oh and get the NB cool, cooler the better, more FSB, less Vmch, less PPL, higher clocks and tigther timings all round.
Pete
I agree :up:
This thread is getting interesting, figure by the time the Rampage comes out you guys will have alot of the settings figured out.
ZenEffect
03-15-2008, 12:45 PM
I agree :up:
This thread is getting interesting, figure by the time the Rampage comes out you guys will have alot of the settings figured out.
pretty much got them all figured out already :yepp:
Renegade5399
03-15-2008, 12:49 PM
I'm really starting to like this being a Rampage. I am getting better performance and for some odd reason I can clock the shader on my GPU higher?!?! I'm not understanding that one at all.
http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?t=291_EverestBench4.jpg (http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?i=291_EverestBench4.jpg)
http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?t=290_lightsmarkXPVM6.jpg (http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?i=290_lightsmarkXPVM6.jpg)
http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?t=289_FurXPVM1.JPG (http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?i=289_FurXPVM1.JPG)
http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?t=287_3DMark0615k2.jpg (http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?i=287_3DMark0615k2.jpg)
ZenEffect
03-15-2008, 12:53 PM
I'm really starting to like this being a Rampage. I am getting better performance and for some odd reason I can clock the shader on my GPU higher?!?! I'm not understanding that one at all.
http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?t=291_EverestBench4.jpg (http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?i=291_EverestBench4.jpg)
http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?t=290_lightsmarkXPVM6.jpg (http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?i=290_lightsmarkXPVM6.jpg)
http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?t=289_FurXPVM1.JPG (http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?i=289_FurXPVM1.JPG)
http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?t=287_3DMark0615k2.jpg (http://www.cyberimpressions.net/images.php?i=287_3DMark0615k2.jpg)
a possible fix on nb gtl settings might allow your video to oc higher *i believe* so with these bios' perhaps asus did something right in this aspect
a couple of things i dont understand looking @ all these pics is why is my cpu l2cache latency lower than everyone elses, even with the same cpu and why does my copy and write suck so bad?
Titus
03-15-2008, 01:13 PM
anyone else experiencing random lock ups during boot?...I'm using BIOS 0907 and every few times it just hangs on the boot screen right after it detects the memory as being OK...I can use the keyboard to hit the delete key and it shows "Entering BIOS" on the boot screen but it never goes past this screen...I have to hit the Reset key a few times for it to boot up properly...is this a problem with this BIOS?
BUMP
[timko]
03-15-2008, 01:13 PM
why does my copy and write suck so bad?
Renegade is running 506Mhz FSB whereas according to your screenshot here...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2841661&postcount=425
...you're only doing 437Mhz. Write and copy scores are heavily dependent on FSB speed so bump it up if you want to get closer :)
ante_ante
03-15-2008, 01:14 PM
Green Button, will try that out. Seems like 0219 having problems with 0.5 multis for me. 450x9 no problem, but 450x9,5 not wanna enter windows :/
ZenEffect
03-15-2008, 01:23 PM
;2843112']Renegade is running 506Mhz FSB whereas according to your screenshot here...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2841661&postcount=425
...you're only doing 437Mhz. Write and copy scores are heavily dependent on FSB speed so bump it up if you want to get closer :)
thats what i thought :(
anyways, i re-found afudos just to see where i got it from. its from south africa :D
ChaosMinionX
03-15-2008, 01:25 PM
Anyone got some voltage settings they are using? I will post mine up soon, but I am still trying to get every last bit outta this board. I would really like to get 475 stable, which is getting closer.
ZenEffect
03-15-2008, 01:31 PM
Anyone got some voltage settings they are using? I will post mine up soon, but I am still trying to get every last bit outta this board. I would really like to get 475 stable, which is getting closer.
i posted all my settings a few pages back. this is my baseline 100% prime stable though i think i can go faster or drop some volts as it is not completely fine tuned.
ZenEffect
03-15-2008, 01:32 PM
BUMP
try re-flashing. put everything back to stock settings, which means no oc and stock volts. if that does not work then try moving your ram over to the other slots
ChaosMinionX
03-15-2008, 01:43 PM
i posted all my settings a few pages back. this is my baseline 100% prime stable though i think i can go faster or drop some volts as it is not completely fine tuned.
What voltages though?
ZenEffect
03-15-2008, 01:46 PM
What voltages though?
*edit*
guess i didnt take pics of the volts
gimme a min as im at work and dying for a cig... ill post them in 10 min
ante_ante
03-15-2008, 01:47 PM
Where can i find bios 0217 ?
XtremeTiramisu
03-15-2008, 01:53 PM
Quick Q: Blue or White Dimm slots for the best OC-ability:Vdimm and stability?
ericab
03-15-2008, 01:55 PM
well, after a bit of tweaking im relativley happy; howver i think i can get a little bit more oudda my hardware...
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2177/cachemem2pd7.png
here are my settings...
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/346/cimg1245ts7.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/403/cimg1246pq5.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5221/cimg1247zv6.jpg
anyone have suggestions on how i can improve from here????
ZenEffect
03-15-2008, 01:59 PM
Quick Q: Blue or White Dimm slots for the best OC-ability:Vdimm and stability?
depends on mobo test them both
Grnfinger
03-15-2008, 02:00 PM
man, I HATE this mobo!
Yeah, I'm a noob, but I was thinking better motherboards should make things easier, not the hell on earth!
Tried everything, can't get even some 3.0ghz. No BOOT, on ANY settings suggested here, nor even the ANANDtech suggestion.
Nothing work! I'm really pissed! Now all I want is some good, big axe, to chop it to bits.
my set should make it easy.
q6600 G0,
2x1gb XMS2 800mhz,
TRUE 2x120mm
If someone solve it for me, thanks!
just wanting some 3.4 - 3.5ghz
I think I should go back to Abit :(
If you set everything to Stock Speed will it post?
Quick Q: Blue or White Dimm slots for the best OC-ability:Vdimm and stability?
They say the White slots, I have tested both blue and white and imo there is little difference if any at all. ppl see what they want to
ZenEffect
03-15-2008, 02:00 PM
CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage :1.6
North Bridge Voltage :1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.26
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.51
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .67
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
took the template from the maximus thread but whatever
@ericab
play with the transaction booster, i was able to get pl5 out of my ram *set as 6 but pull ins are enabled to make it 5*
Titus
03-15-2008, 02:04 PM
try re-flashing. put everything back to stock settings, which means no oc and stock volts. if that does not work then try moving your ram over to the other slots
everything is at stock and it still happens every few re-boots
could my voltages be too high?...I have all the voltages set to 'Auto' in the BIOS but according to PC Probe my Vcore is 1.20, NB= 48C (1.36V), SB= 44C (1.07V)
what should I set my NB, SB, CPU and CPU PLL voltages to for optimal performance at stock settings?
ericab
03-15-2008, 02:07 PM
@ericab
play with the transaction booster, i was able to get pl5 out of my ram *set as 6 but pull ins are enabled to make it 5*
zen, i tried playing with the booster..... ANYTHING less then what its already at, is an automatic DET RAM~ :(
btw my ram is Crucial Ballistix PC6400....
giorgos th.
03-15-2008, 02:09 PM
here are my voltages also.
CPU Voltage : 1.3625
CPU PLL Voltage :1.6
North Bridge Voltage :1.45
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : auto (for now)
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto (for now)
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
ZenEffect
03-15-2008, 02:09 PM
zen, i tried playing with the booster..... ANYTHING less then what its already at, is an automatic DET RAM~ :(
btw my ram is Crucial Ballistix PC6400....
try your fsb strap to 400. i cant enable transaction booster any other way. plus with the fsb strap to 400 i noticed i can run lower nb volts as well.
Grnfinger
03-15-2008, 02:10 PM
Same here , I'm so :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing sick of that Det Ram. Had is sorted on the MF now its back and hard as hell to sort out.
If I run Trans Booster on anything but Auto I get the hang.
ChaosMinionX
03-15-2008, 02:11 PM
Yeah, you guys run lower NB voltage, I cant seem to get 8GB any lower than 1.61v-1.63v
Thanks for the info, I will see what I can do with it.
giorgos th.
03-15-2008, 02:11 PM
@Grnfinger try booster manual with dram static control disabled..
Grnfinger
03-15-2008, 02:12 PM
I will give it a shot
ZenEffect
03-15-2008, 02:14 PM
everything is at stock and it still happens every few re-boots
could my voltages be too high?...I have all the voltages set to 'Auto' in the BIOS but according to PC Probe my Vcore is 1.20, NB= 48C (1.36V), SB= 44C (1.07V)
what should I set my NB, SB, CPU and CPU PLL voltages to for optimal performance at stock settings?
i mean to say flash it at all stock.
ZenEffect
03-15-2008, 02:19 PM
key things i noticed to get trans booster to work *for me* were
i HAVE to be at cas4 for pl below 7
i HAVE to set the fsb strap to 400
if i manually set pl to 5 i get system hang
if i manually set pl to 6 and do pull ins for pl of 5, it works.
now imma go eat some pizza
giorgos th.
03-15-2008, 02:27 PM
My bios settings.
Grnfinger
03-15-2008, 02:31 PM
@Grnfinger try booster manual with dram static control disabled..
No luck still get the hang
Running ram @ 5-5-5-15-3-35-6-3
Dram Static = Auto
Clock Twister =Stronger
Trans Booster =Auto
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/RF_Ram.png
Not bad at all but I would like to play with the setting. Anything but Auto and it wont boot
ZenEffect
03-15-2008, 02:32 PM
No luck still get the hang
Running ram @ 5-5-5-15-3-35-6-3
Dram Static = Auto
Clock Twister =Stronger
Trans Booster =Auto
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/RF_Ram.png
Not bad at all but I would like to play with the setting. Anything but Auto and it wont boot
what fsb strap are you using? experiment with different straps to get it to work, thats what i did.