The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[ReverendMaynard]

Could this be done with a P5K-Premium / Blitz Formula?

[socheat]

Anyone test bench and result?

Thanks

[The Stilt]

Could this be done with a P5K-Premium / Blitz Formula?

P5E -> Maximus:

Would probably kill the board.
Even the layout is same there are few chips missing from P5E compared to Maximus.

It might work but I recon there aren´t that many volunteers for a high risk test like this.

P5K Deluxe / Premium -> Blitz:

Blitz uses IDT lane splitter so most likely does not work.

P5E3 -> Maximus Extreme:

Same as Blitz, IDT lane splitter on board so...

[electricl]

Just flashed to Rampage Formula and everything seems fine. I will play with it more later on tonight. Im not an expert in the field of over clocking but Im learning from you guys so keep up the good work! :up:

[jakku]

Em.. Where I can find info about "How update Bios with EZ-Flash ?"

[Grnfinger]

Grn,

Please keep us updated as to how this goes. I will attempt this tonite.

Now, all you did was put the Rampage BIOS on a USB stick (or similar) and used EZ-Flash?

I just got home from work, I had to leave early cause I'm (cough cough) sick :rofl:

Going to test some clocks and redo OS, still have the web pages wont refresh issue and Everest is being a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: not reporting any ram info.
I installed some MS web :banana::banana::banana::banana: via an update yesterday so that might be the cause of the web pages problem.
CPUZ reports everything so I might just need a new version of everest.

Going to post the main setup bios screen and maybe some pll can helpl with some ram settings

[Grnfinger]

BIOS

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0248-1.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0249-1.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0250-1.jpg

And this is all the extra settings with Trans Booster set to MANUAL

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0251-1.jpg

[Grnfinger]

Stilt

Did you have any negative effects from this conversion?

Just about to redo my OS to try and rid myself of a few bugs.
Everest is NOT reporting any ram info,
Web pages are sometimes refreshing and sometimes not.

CPUZ is reporting everything properly tho. Any ideas / suggestions?

[The Stilt]

Stilt

Did you have any negative effects from this conversion?

Just about to redo my OS to try and rid myself of a few bugs.
Everest is NOT reporting any ram info,
Web pages are sometimes refreshing and sometimes not.

CPUZ is reporting everything properly tho. Any ideas / suggestions?

Your Everest is probably too old.

There is no need to update the drivers after Maximus -> Rampage conversion afaik.

[Grnfinger]

I'm running 4.20.1170 Ultimate, I think its the newest.
Maybe a reinstall will sort it out

[kup]

Grn, that's the newest official version but the most recent beta 4.20.1307 is pretty much perfect for the Asus boards! Have a look for it.

[p2501]

Grnfinger, could you please check the range for CPU PLL?

Is it possible to set values from 1.4 to 1.5v? I'm just asking because this would be a nice way to counter the overvolting of said voltage...

[Grnfinger]

thnx kup newer version seems to be the ticket

[kup]

All good? I hope so, because a few more positive words and I think I'll be flashing the board too...

[kup]

Well as some of you may know, I flashed to 0505 a few weeks back and since then my system, has been THE MOST STABLE it has ever been, not a single crash for the best part of 2 weeks. :up:

I then tried 1004 and guess what came free with it, that's right...random reboots. Folding/Prime/OCCT stable for as long as I could want to test it and yet would still randomly crash. :mad:

Back on 0505 now and the problems seems to have gone away again!:rofl:

[Grnfinger]

I installed MS Silverlight yesterday, I would recommend NOT doing it.
Web pages refresh now after that pos is removed.

New Everest is working 100% and showing ALL info as b4.
Still going to redo OS to 64bit for I have another 2GB's of ram sitting on my desk begging for some use.
Was alittle concerned last night but all problems are resolved !

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger, could you please check the range for CPU PLL?

Is it possible to set values from 1.4 to 1.5v? I'm just asking because this would be a nice way to counter the overvolting of said voltage...

CPUPLL starts at 1.50 just like Maximus:(

[Blauhung]

awesome dude......great job. You got a better performance with this bios mod??? You got more overclock???


Stilt, is there any kinda of performance increase over the Maximus bios? Overclocking improvements?

Both bios versions are built for the exact same chipset logic. The rampage version might attempt to tighten up a bit of the behind the scenes stuff in an effort to flex the higher binned x48 version of Bearlake. Using this bios with an X38 chipset may cause slightly higher NB/MCH voltage requirements for settings that would normally be stable using the original Maximus bios.

[Grnfinger]

Both bios versions are built for the exact same chipset logic. The rampage version might attempt to tighten up a bit of the behind the scenes stuff in an effort to flex the higher binned x48 version of Bearlake. Using this bios with an X38 chipset may cause slightly higher NB/MCH voltage requirements for settings that would normally be stable using the original Maximus bios.

Thanks for the tip, getting rounding errors , I will try upping the NB volts

[p2501]

CPUPLL starts at 1.50 just like Maximus:(

Jebus, i hoped for something else, but ooh well... thanks for checking Grnfinger!

[Grnfinger]

I hope that with a more mature bios it will have a more flexible setting. They have TRFC maxed at 42 again, but its beta bios 207, so there is hope.

[Zucker2k]

Did the mod yesterday, and so far so good. I have no glitches or bugs whatsoever. However, this board acts like the P965 in that it runs very loose with higher fsbs. Lowest TRD I could run around 470is fsb was 8, with higher NB volts, compared to bios 1003. This thing does work however, and goes to show what I said earlier about these chipsets and boards being the same. If only asus wasn't such a jerk. My advice, hold off a while longer and see what the next bios release for the Rampage brings. So far, I see no reason - performance wise - to do the conversion. My 2 cents.

[ZenEffect]

im going to drop in a retail q9550 this friday :yepp:
hopefully 1004 bios + this cpu = very oc friendly. im hoping for 4ghz, but even 3.933 like i have now would be sufficient as its equivilent to about 4.1 or so on a q6600.

congrats on all of you with the rampage bios. im still going to wait for further releases then pick the best bios option based on what everyone is doing here. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

[Exentler]

do you recommand 1004 bios ?

[ChaosMinionX]

do you recommand 1004 bios ?

Yes. If you can get it to work that is :) I am using it now, it works quite well.

[zlojack]

im going to drop in a retail q9550 this friday :yepp:
hopefully 1004 bios + this cpu = very oc friendly. im hoping for 4ghz, but even 3.933 like i have now would be sufficient as its equivilent to about 4.1 or so on a q6600.

congrats on all of you with the rampage bios. im still going to wait for further releases then pick the best bios option based on what everyone is doing here. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

Where'd you get the CPU?

Still not available in Canada...:(

[Grnfinger]

New Everest now reports properly


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/rmp1.png

[kup]

How is it performing?

[andyr(uk)]

I have the files on the stick ready to go so any feedback would be appreciated

[kup]

I have the files on the stick ready to go so any feedback would be appreciated

Likewise. I'm curious as to the dividers and whatnot...

[tc17]

I haven't installed this motherboard inside my case yet, I was testing it outside first, and am glad I did.

I have the Asus Maximus Formula motherboard, and so far this board is acting very weird with my Transcend memory. (using an e8400 cpu)

I have four 1g sticks of the Transcend ddr2 800mhz memory (two sets of matched pairs). When I do a memtest on them, I found that one stick out of each pair gives me errors. The other stick out of each pair does not.

If I put the "bad" stick to test back in my previous AMD computer, it has no errors.

So does that mean the memory is still bad? It makes no sense. I've never had this odd problem before with a motherboard.

This is the memory I have:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208283

[ericab]

I have the files on the stick ready to go so any feedback would be appreciated



same here andy, im about to take the dive too.



btw, latest everest = everestultimate_build_1314

if you cant find it, ill hook you up.

[The Stilt]

I managed to flash the board back to Maximus Formula by using a engineer version of AFUDOS.

In the engineer version it is possible to turn off the "security" that prevents flashing in case the current ROMID and new ROMID & version would mismatch.

It is also unneccessary to use loader.rom & khan.exe because the correct bios can be flashed straight in.

Unfortunately I cannot share this version of AFUDOS.

In case Asus would deny bios updates for modded boards by changing the ROMID for Rampage (since the shipments have not started?) I will come to rescue.

[kup]

Is it not possible to supply this engineer version so people can restore their boards if they don't like the Rampage bios? Or even just hint to a location?

[Mic]

Writting this on my "Rampage".. everything seems to work nicely so far, Ill do a little more testing hopefully this board can push the limit a little further.

Quite a brave move Stilt to flash your maximus in the first place without knowing what would happend, and thanks for informing us about this cool mod.

[The Stilt]

Quite a brave move Stilt to flash your maximus in the first place without knowing what would happend, and thanks for informing us about this cool mod.

Nah, I got SPI programmer nearby.

[kup]

same here andy, im about to take the dive too.



btw, latest everest = everestultimate_build_1314

if you cant find it, ill hook you up.

http://www.lavalys.com:8081/beta/everestultimate_build_1314_eori5j1htcv.zip

Here you go, for anyone who doesn't have it. MODS, this should still be within the rules as it doesn't supply a key or activation, just the trial version of the software in the latest incarnation.

[brewer265]

I haven't installed this motherboard inside my case yet, I was testing it outside first, and am glad I did.

I have the Asus Maximus Formula motherboard, and so far this board is acting very weird with my Transcend memory. (using an e8400 cpu)

I have four 1g sticks of the Transcend ddr2 800mhz memory (two sets of matched pairs). When I do a memtest on them, I found that one stick out of each pair gives me errors. The other stick out of each pair does not.

If I put the "bad" stick to test back in my previous AMD computer, it has no errors.

So does that mean the memory is still bad? It makes no sense. I've never had this odd problem before with a motherboard.

This is the memory I have:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208283
try memtest after you disable legacy usb in bios.

[ericab]

bypassing the ROMID without the engineering version---

supposedly, the "/nr” and “/n" switches disable afudos from checking ROMID

[sobih25]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8272/rampagefj1.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rampagefj1.jpg)
my one works fine too :D.

[tc17]

try memtest after you disable legacy usb in bios.
Thank you for the reply. I just tried that now, but it didn't help. I still got errors.

Weird how one stick out of the same set is fine, the other isn't. Yet both sticks work without errors in my AMD board.

[brewer265]

Thank you for the reply. I just tried that now, but it didn't help. I still got errors.

Weird how one stick out of the same set is fine, the other isn't. Yet both sticks work without errors in my AMD board.

You might need to bump the northbridge voltage a bit to use 4 sticks of ram.

[kup]

Thank you for the reply. I just tried that now, but it didn't help. I still got errors.

Weird how one stick out of the same set is fine, the other isn't. Yet both sticks work without errors in my AMD board.

This is a frequent problem with the Maximus Boards...

[Zucker2k]

Stilt, you are the man! I personally believe you're doing what Asus should have done (wishful thinking), if only they were a company with any moral standard. makes you wonder how many more crippled boards there are just so Asus can market the next board as the greatest thing.... oh... Commando comes to mind.

PS: Did the mod... for a beta bios, there are no significant negatives. Bios 1003 on the Maximus allowed me to run at TRD 7 well past 500 fsb, this won't . Bios 907 didn't let me do same either. Here's to hoping for that killer bios from asus; and oh... to the Stilt for saving me a couple of hundred bucks! :toast:

[The Stilt]

bypassing the ROMID without the engineering version---

supposedly, the "/nr” and “/n" switches disable afudos from checking ROMID

Only works with engineer version, obviously ;)

[ericab]

Only works with engineer version, obviously ;)

thats not what i understand;

apparently its worked for other people on different forums.. :shrug:

[andyr(uk)]

Will it bugger up my raid array do you recon

[Mic]

Seems to run better with lower vcore than it did before the mod.
270 FSB, 1.36Vcore, PL7

http://www.suntech.dk/images/wprime.jpg

Andyr - Didn't affect my raid0 array on my C drive

[Viss]

Thanks Stilt :up:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/RampageX38.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=327508

[Grnfinger]

With a fresh OS install it's really flying now.
I can post 525x9 altho not stable but it will post unlike the Maximus.

Everything seems to be running smoothly.
Did anyone require more NB volts for stability after the mod?

[ericab]

With a fresh OS install it's really flying now.
I can post 525x9 altho not stable but it will post unlike the Maximus.

Everything seems to be running smoothly.
Did anyone require more NB volts for stability after the mod?


Grn;
could we see some before/after numbers?

ive got my trigger finger just waiting to make the mod....:rolleyes: !!

[kup]

So more than one person is experiencing lower required voltage for the CPU clocks?

[andyr(uk)]

Seems to run better with lower vcore than it did before the mod.
270 FSB, 1.36Vcore, PL7


Andyr - Didn't affect my raid0 array on my C drive

Thanks for that , what can you get your q6600 stable at ?

[Mic]

Thanks for that , what can you get your q6600 stable at ?
Doubt it's 100% stable at 9x470fsb but haven't crashed yet. will play alittle more with it later this week as I need to remount my prometeia as it's not making perfect contact with the cpu.

[andyr(uk)]

I did it !!!!!

Wouldn't reboot at first and i thought id killed it so i pulled out a stick of ram and up it came, yippee

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5513/rampageiq7.jpg





I wish Asus would get a move on with this rampage bios :rofl:

[Grnfinger]

Didnt need more NB volts.
CPUPLL on AUTO gives rounding errors, set to 1.50 rounding errors are gone.
Priming my 24/7 settings now, will shoot for a +500 stable(ish) Vista boot shortly.

[kup]

Interesting. I'm so so so so tempted to do it. I'll give it until tomorrow evening and if there are no discouraging experiences I'm going to take the jump.

[Grnfinger]

JUMP JUMP JUMP JUMP!


Seriously tho, I was really bumbed last night with my few glitches, I thought OMG wtf did I do.
After today I am very pleased, no complaints, no regrets

[ShawnTRD]

It would be nice if ASUS would just make there next MF BIOS like the RF BIOS. Maybe if everyone ask then nicely???

[tc17]

This is a frequent problem with the Maximus Boards...
This isn't good. I can't return it now either. Do you know of which ram does work fine with this board?

I kinda figured an expensive board like this would be less likely to have problems. I did try the 1004 bios and the 907 bios. Although I haven't had problems booting into the bios or anything, just the memtest errors on 2 of 4 sticks.

[Trice]

Anyone still run the 505 bios? Im tempted to update mine to the newest one out if its safe to do so.

[Tony]

this reminds me of p4p800d to p4p800e flashing, flash the bootblock then flash the new bios to add extra features.

really though changing the rom ID in bios with amibcp should be enough IMO, my versions here won't open the rampage bios though.

[zlojack]

I guess it's still too early to say there's a decided advantage or difference in performance by doing this?

[theonlybabyface]

this reminds me of p4p800d to p4p800e flashing, flash the bootblock then flash the new bios to add extra features.


Exactly what I was thinking. That gave a nice bandwidth increase....that board still runs on my brother-in-law's machine with the bootblock flash to this day!:D

[ante_ante]

Thanks for the great idea of flashing :)

Works like a charm for me to......

http://bandwidth.se/thumbs/6005.jpg (http://bandwidth.se/view/6005)

[Tony]

well I see it this way, if the added timings in the rampage bios help then its worth it...tRD is better on the X48 board so this would be worth having although its just how the strings are labeled thats different so they are easier to understand.
What we do need is tRC and tRFC opening up and this build of the bios is quite old...so we have to hope the release build has the new options and is coded right unlike the x38 bios version which seems to have issues.

[kevinali]

I am currently using BIOS 505 with 8 gb ram (at ddr2-667, and 1.8v). Everything is stock execept for the processor which is running 333 x 10 = 3.3Ghz (on a Q6700). The Vcore is set to 1.264Vand the northbridge and southbridge is set to the lowest setting. The system is rock stable. It idles at 33 and gets to 45 under load (with a thermalright ultra 120 extreme)

Anyway, the question is this

After the bios splash screen disappears, the cursor flashes for 5-6 sec in the upper left hand corner, and then i get the windows vista start up bars. It appears that the bios is waiting for something.

The boot order i have is the harddrive first and i have disabled the second boot device. The floppy dirve is disabled.

Is there any setting in the bios that allows me to go from the splash screen directly into loading windows?

The video card is the 8800GT. It also does this with my other card the 8800 GTS 512

I have seen some brand name computers (HP, Acer, Gateway) boot quickly into windows after the splash screen

[kup]

Anyone still run the 505 bios? Im tempted to update mine to the newest one out if its safe to do so.

I went from 0505 all the way through to 0907. I went back to 0505 because it performed the best for me, had no stability problems and was much better. I then tested 1004 and it caused nothing but chaos, all the usual random crashing and locking up. Flashed back to 0505 and all is fine again.

[ante_ante]

A little rampage here now :)

http://bandwidth.se/thumbs/6005.jpg (http://bandwidth.se/view/6005)

[dude_500]

I upgraded 1003 to 1004 and now it won't hold a custom FSB. I enter 400x9 but once I save it just reverts the processor back to stock at 266x9 (q6600 g0). Anyone else have this issue/know how to fix it?

Also, are there any conclusive results yet as to the rampage mod making for easier overclocking or not?

[Warboy]

From what I was told today when I checked up on my RMA, the Maximus Formula has been discontinued (but they say they have no stock, and they are asus:confused: ) and from what i guess, the only stock people have is outlets. like newegg, tiger or others.

So they say if they was out of stock, i would get a upgrade to a Maximus Extreme, which i basically said "WTF, I don't have DDR3" and said to the guy "Well Wouldn't the Rampage Formula or the ASUS 780i board be more acceptable because I do not have DDR3?" and he said "I don't know sir, We will email you by tomorrow with either the Tracking Number or a List of Upgrades we can offer you"

[kup]

Several people have had similar problems. I'm not sure of the fix yet? Are you loading the overclock profiles cos that won't work, you'll need to set them all manually again.

[kup]

Btw, I've ripped the logo off the South Bridge and attached a 40mm fan, it dropped my South Bridge temps from 40c down to 29c and my North Bridge down from 47c to 40c 100% Loaded!

MUCH nicer! I actually think the fan is the one from my ancient KR7A... :D

[zlojack]

I am currently using BIOS 505 with 8 gb ram (at ddr2-667, and 1.8v). Everything is stock execept for the processor which is running 333 x 10 = 3.3Ghz (on a Q6700). The Vcore is set to 1.264Vand the northbridge and southbridge is set to the lowest setting. The system is rock stable. It idles at 33 and gets to 45 under load (with a thermalright ultra 120 extreme)

Anyway, the question is this

After the bios splash screen disappears, the cursor flashes for 5-6 sec in the upper left hand corner, and then i get the windows vista start up bars. It appears that the bios is waiting for something.

The boot order i have is the harddrive first and i have disabled the second boot device. The floppy dirve is disabled.

Is there any setting in the bios that allows me to go from the splash screen directly into loading windows?

The video card is the 8800GT. It also does this with my other card the 8800 GTS 512

I have seen some brand name computers (HP, Acer, Gateway) boot quickly into windows after the splash screen

Funny... I get that too, but can't pinpoint when it started.

:confused:

[zlojack]

well I see it this way, if the added timings in the rampage bios help then its worth it...tRD is better on the X48 board so this would be worth having although its just how the strings are labeled thats different so they are easier to understand.
What we do need is tRC and tRFC opening up and this build of the bios is quite old...so we have to hope the release build has the new options and is coded right unlike the x38 bios version which seems to have issues.

Yeah. If this sorts the memory timings then definitely it will be worth doing. I am teetering on the brink here, but I figure I'll at least wait until I get my QX9650 before deciding.

It seems more and more like Asus are going to abandon the Maximus Formula bios... still no new "official" release since 0907.

[Grnfinger]

Yeah. If this sorts the memory timings then definitely it will be worth doing. I am teetering on the brink here, but I figure I'll at least wait until I get my QX9650 before deciding.

It seems more and more like Asus are going to abandon the Maximus Formula bios... still no new "official" release since 0907.

Did you read Warboy's post?
You might be on to something

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2830722&postcount=2205

[dude_500]

Several people have had similar problems. I'm not sure of the fix yet? Are you loading the overclock profiles cos that won't work, you'll need to set them all manually again.

No, I manually set everything after the flash.

[zlojack]

Did you read Warboy's post?
You might be on to something

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2830722&postcount=2205

I did read it. If this is true, it's pretty disappointing and will probably make me steer clear of Asus products again (both my Mobo and GPU are Asus).

I just got in the balance of parts to build my LC rig on this board, and now we find out that they're pretty much discontinued, which is probably why we're not seeing any action on the bios.

Anyway, if this mod salvages it, great! If not, I might have to check out the DFI's.

[ZenEffect]

Funny... I get that too, but can't pinpoint when it started.

:confused:

it did that to me when i went to bios 1004, but now im back on 907 and the wait is no more

[kup]

it did that to me when i went to bios 1004, but now im back on 907 and the wait is no more

I can confirm the same on 1004 and not on 0505 which is what I use atm.

[.OCX]

Warboy;2830722']"Well Wouldn't the Rampage Formula or the ASUS 780i board be more acceptable because I do not have DDR3?" and he said "I don't know sir, We will email you by tomorrow with either the Tracking Number or a List of Upgrades we can offer you"

That is worrisome and equally awesome at the same time. Worrisome because "discontinued" could possibly mean Phased Out. Phased out due to....?


Awesome is self explanatory.

[ericab]

I can confirm the same on 1004 and not on 0505 which is what I use atm.

i currently have that "issue" too.... no idea what it is.
bios 907..

---

Warboy, you wrote 'discounted';
did you mean 'discontinued' ?
if so, im pretty upset with asus on their decision... :slapass:

i have a feeling my next board will be a DFI like many others on this forum have said.

[zlojack]

i currently have that "issue" too.... no idea what it is.
bios 907..

---

Warboy, you wrote 'discounted';
did you mean 'discontinued' ?
if so, im pretty upset with asus on their decision... :slapass:

i have a feeling my next board will be a DFI like many others on this forum have said.

+1 for that...

If this is the case, I am tempted to look into the DFI option soon. Only issue would be the damn waterblocks I already have!

[Durkadurka]

This isn't good. I can't return it now either. Do you know of which ram does work fine with this board?

I kinda figured an expensive board like this would be less likely to have problems. I did try the 1004 bios and the 907 bios. Although I haven't had problems booting into the bios or anything, just the memtest errors on 2 of 4 sticks.

Well I run 4 sticks of Crucial Ballistix PC-8500, and they work just fine.
The BIOS has a lot of options that has an effect on the ram tho, so if you post your BIOS settings (from Extreme Tweaker) using the format posted throughout this thread then you'll probably get some hints as to what settings you should try.

[Warboy]

i currently have that "issue" too.... no idea what it is.
bios 907..

---

Warboy, you wrote 'discounted';
did you mean 'discontinued' ?
if so, im pretty upset with asus on their decision... :slapass:

i have a feeling my next board will be a DFI like many others on this forum have said.

Yes. Thats what I mean. I think my next one is a Foxconn.

[Renegade5399]

Nice. This worked perfectly. I am also seeing less voltage for the CPU to hold the same clocks. This is outstanding. Now to figure out all these RAM timings...

Stilt, fantastic job, thank you.

[Kondik]

End of life product ? They will come with a new revision proppably.. who knows. It's the same as it was with X38 DQ6 , they found to solder EPU on the PCB as a great HW revision. Maybe Asus is planing something tiny too

[ChaosMinionX]

End of life product ? They will come with a new revision proppably.. who knows. It's the same as it was with X38 DQ6 , they found to solder EPU on the PCB as a great HW revision. Maybe Asus is planing something tiny too

In all honesty they will probably kick people to Rampages when the Maximus is EOL..... I am sure you can talk them into a small replacement fee to upgrade it since you wouldn't want to leave the ROG lineup.

[ChaosMinionX]

How does this Rampage BIOS do with 8GB of RAM?

[Mic]

I am sure you can talk them into a small replacement fee to upgrade it since you wouldn't want to leave the ROG lineup.
Doubt it, they got some lousy support.

[Zucker2k]

Discontinued is to be expected: The Maximus Formula is a limited edition board.

[Mic]

Quick question, got broken maximus SE around, it shouldn't be a problem to take the chipset watercooling system from that one and put on a no SE maximus?

[ShawnTRD]

I emailed ASUS. Hopefully they will make a Rampage Formula version for the MF motherboard.

My email to http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx

I'm not really having a problem. I just wanted to ask if there would be any way ASUS could come out with a BIOS that has some of the options that the Rampage Formula motherboard does. There is a forum about Turn your Maximus Formula into Rampage Formula. I don't want to viod my warranty but I would like the extra you get from the Rampage Formula BIOS. I bought this motherboard because it was a all out gamer/overclocker motherboard, and we haven't seen new BIOS in awhile.

Thanks
Shawn

[jakku]

I think so, Yes.. You can put watercooling on your MF non SE.. ;)

[Den_Sjaekert]

Hi guys,
I've got a problem again. My overclock isn't prime95 stable.
I've run OCCT mix for 8hrs+ withouth a problem, but prime 95 blend makes my pc reboot after less than 2hrs.

My NB temp does get about 53C, could this be the problem?

My settings are:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2t
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : -
Row Refresh Cycle Time : -
Write Recovery Time : -
Read to Precharge Time : -

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : -
Write to Read Delay (S) : -
Write to Read Delay (D) : -
Read to Read Delay (S) : -
Read to Read Delay (D) : -
Write to Write Delay (S) : -
Write to Write Delay (D) : -
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : strong
Transaction Booster : enabled - 0

CPU Voltage : 1.4V
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56V
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55V
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : auto

[Renegade5399]

Discontinued is to be expected: The Maximus Formula is a limited edition board.


The SE model was supposed to be the limited edition.

[xgman]

If indeed there is any benefit to this rampage bios, why wouldn't asus just make the changes in the maximus formula bios to match?

[Zucker2k]

Isn't the SE the version Warboy has? Anyway, I didn't think there was any differentiation in the MF with regards to Asus since they both use the same bios.

[kup]

If indeed there is any benefit to this rampage bios, why wouldn't asus just make the changes in the maximus formula bios to match?

Because by locking these options away from us they can attempt to sell a new board.

Jow Public may fall for it, but we should be able to see through it and find a fix, as The Stilt has done.

[kup]

Isn't the SE the version Warboy has? Anyway, I didn't think there was any differentiation in the MF with regards to Asus since they both use the same bios.

There is no difference at all. The Non-SE had a revision or 1.03 instead of 1.02 but that was it, no actual changes to the board.

[tc17]

Well I run 4 sticks of Crucial Ballistix PC-8500, and they work just fine.
The BIOS has a lot of options that has an effect on the ram tho, so if you post your BIOS settings (from Extreme Tweaker) using the format posted throughout this thread then you'll probably get some hints as to what settings you should try.

The bios settings were all basically the default bios settings I used. The only ones I tried changing were the voltages, and memory timing. Even when I tried underclocking the memory to a slower speed, it still gives errors. Yet the other exact same stick doesn't.

I may have to sell them or something. They give no errors in my Biostar motherboard.

[ReverendMaynard]

I can now confirm that you cannot make a P5K-Premium into a Blitz Formula. Anyone have a board for sale? lol

[kup]

I can now confirm that you cannot make a P5K-Premium into a Blitz Formula. Anyone have a board for sale? lol

LOL! :eek: :D

I do have a Blitz for sale... :shocked:

[andyr(uk)]

I can now confirm that you cannot make a P5K-Premium into a Blitz Formula. Anyone have a board for sale? lol

i take it that it has a soldered in bios chip then

[ReverendMaynard]

i take it that it has a soldered in bios chip then

indeed, she's bricked.

kup, pm me a price w/shipping.

[lior307]

This is a good news ,
Show us some benchies !!!!

[ZenEffect]

Where'd you get the CPU?

Still not available in Canada...:(

http://www.pricewatch.com/microprocessors/core_2_quad_q9550.htm

18 in stock supposedly

[zlojack]

http://www.pricewatch.com/microprocessors/core_2_quad_q9550.htm

18 in stock supposedly

:(

That would cost me $55 in shipping plus probably $80 or so in brokerage fees...

Thanks for the link though...let us know if you actually get it on Friday :up:

[ante_ante]

I have to run Vcore on " auto " , otherwise i get no boot. Running right now 470x9 everything on auto except dram voltage.....

[kup]

I have to run Vcore on " auto " , otherwise i get no boot. Running right now 470x9 everything on auto except dram voltage.....

Even @ stock?

Lets hope these quirks are part and parcel of the Beta bios, and not the flash/hack?

[yobi]

am hapy too:D

[Grnfinger]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4500.jpg

Very pleased so for

[Mando84]

I hope you will be able to do the same thing with Maximus Extreme when Rampage Extreme is released...

[[XC]Atomicpineapple]

Another successful mod here. Praise be to The Stilt!

[dude_500]

After the mod is all done, will it upgrade to asus rampage releases or will we have to wait for you to make a 'maximus build' of each rampage release? I don't really want to do it if we have to wait for you each build and rely on you to do it.

Also, is a RAID going to get screwed up if it's done?

[andyr(uk)]

After the mod is all done, will it upgrade to asus rampage releases or will we have to wait for you to make a 'maximus build' of each rampage release? I don't really want to do it if we have to wait for you each build and rely on you to do it.

Also, is a RAID going to get screwed up if it's done?


my raid was fine and i believe treat it as a rampage after the mod and no longer a maximus, i am well pleased so far 3.9 gig stable with my quad

[kup]

my raid was fine and i believe treat it as a rampage after the mod and no longer a maximus, i am well pleased so far 3.9 gig stable with my quad

And what was your max stable before the bios flash?

[sobih25]

My raid works fine too.

[andyr(uk)]

And what was your max stable before the bios flash?

3.7gig 12 hrs prime stable although i have to confess to only doing 2 hrs at 3.9 gig before i stopped it and tried 470 x 8 , it boots and runs 3d06 ok but a lot more testing to be done,

i havent played with the mem settings yet , there is a lot to choose from and i dont know what to set the majority at ,so i have left it in auto for now , but my opinion of this is it certainly isnt any worse than any of the maximus bios's and i have tried em all ,

i am going to find the fsb limit as 460-470 was my limit with my quad and i think this might go a bit more yet

[kup]

3.7gig 12 hrs prime stable although i have to confess to only doing 2 hrs at 3.9 gig before i stopped it and tried 470 x 8 , it boots and runs 3d06 ok but a lot more testing to be done,

And you couldn't have done 3.9GHz with the Maximus bios? This is interesting...could I possibly get my 3.9GHz Quad stable @ 4.1GHz? :D

[CaseMD]

Sorry for that question but:

Do i have to type in khan /sp "Rampage Formula" ? and when?

[andyr(uk)]

Sorry for that question but:

Do i have to type in khan /sp "Rampage Formula" ? and when?


I didnt type any of that in , i just followed the steps in the first post

from the How to do then line onwards

[ericab]

Sorry for that question but:

Do i have to type in khan /sp "Rampage Formula" ? and when?

no; you dont type it. you run the batch file in dos.

when...?.... everything is in the instruction on the first page.

[andyr(uk)]

And you couldn't have done 3.9GHz with the Maximus bios? This is interesting...could I possibly get my 3.9GHz Quad stable @ 4.1GHz? :D


possibly will get your extra, i cant get into windows at 500 x 8 but i can at 490 x8 which is an improvement for quad i think

using the x9 multi at a realistic speed and going for the memory tomorrow and see what it gives me

[ShawnTRD]

I emailed ASUS. Hopefully they will make a Rampage Formula version for the MF motherboard.

My email to http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx

I'm not really having a problem. I just wanted to ask if there would be any way ASUS could come out with a BIOS that has some of the options that the Rampage Formula motherboard does. There is a forum about Turn your Maximus Formula into Rampage Formula. I don't want to viod my warranty but I would like the extra you get from the Rampage Formula BIOS. I bought this motherboard because it was a all out gamer/overclocker motherboard, and we haven't seen new BIOS in awhile.

Thanks
Shawn

The reply I got from Asus on this is.



"The difference is a physical one. The Maximus has the X38 Northbridge, the Rampage has the X48 Northbridge. There is nothing you can do that we can recommend that will "upgrade" your motherboard.


Brent
Asus Tech Support
Your feedback is appreciated!
http://sip.asus.com/Survey/Questionnaire/Survey_2008020843351.aspx"

[Zucker2k]

The reply I got from Asus on this is.

ROFL @ Asus reply.

[ShawnTRD]

So what are people getting by doing this flash? I haven't seen and before and afters.

[kup]

possibly will get your extra, i cant get into windows at 500 x 8 but i can at 490 x8 which is an improvement for quad i think

using the x9 multi at a realistic speed and going for the memory tomorrow and see what it gives me

Now that is interesting!!! What could you get before?

[MGreg]

Thanks, great mod. Will have to play around more.

I can confirm raid still works after mod.

[kup]

Ok ok...I caved...

Now the proud owner of a Maximus Rampage!!! And that's my name for it, hands off! :D

[zlojack]

Man... I think this weekend I'll follow suit.

I just wish I had a decent CPU to run before/after benchmarks on.

I'll do it anyway... unless the rest of my parts come in and I'm building. Either way, I'll be sure to do some benchies before and after the flashing.

[ericab]

Ok ok...I caved...

Now the proud owner of a Maximus Rampage!!! And that's my name for it, hands off! :D

keep us in the know kup :up:

[Warboy]

Isn't the SE the version Warboy has? Anyway, I didn't think there was any differentiation in the MF with regards to Asus since they both use the same bios.

I know, I have the SE, But I asked them about the Non-SE and they yet again said they had none.

[WFO]

Warboy;2833452']I know, I have the SE, But I asked them about the Non-SE and they yet again said they had none.

Newegg has nothing but open box now. I think they are gone, gone, gone.

[ZenEffect]

i got this pm from a guy who doesnt accept pm's so if you are reading this dude, here you go


Hi,

I noticed in one of the posts you have mentioned that you are willing to share the BIOS and all the settings for Maximus + Q6600 L745A*** batch.

Would you point me to where you have or willing to post those as I have the same mobo and CPU with exact same batch.

I'd really appreciate your help. This will be my forst OC with those quiet expensive toys so, any help is viable.

Thanks,
Mike


my current settings, as im still using this cpu till this weekend, are... (bear with me im doing this all from memory but its accurate)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 437
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 120
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1165
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: ENABLED
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : ENABLED 0

CPU Voltage : 1.481 (the one right above 1.475 flat)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.61
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.26 (my mem rated to 2.35)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : DISABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : ENABLED
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : ENABLED

hope this helps, the maximus likes to over volt so watch your cpu ppl, ram, north bridge, and fsb term voltages.

-Effect

[zlojack]

Warboy;2833452']I know, I have the SE, But I asked them about the Non-SE and they yet again said they had none.
That is so teh suxxorzz...

I guess it's either buy a new board or convert to the Rampage Formula bios...

[ZenEffect]

http://www.tyan.com/tech/matrix_flashUtility.aspx

check this out :up:

afuwin 4.24 has a /x function that ignores rom id
+
afudos v.4.04

[kup]

Interesting find. Well done.

I've found my first bug in this Rampage bios. Occasionally the multiplier won't change regardless of what you set it to, eg:

I was running 9x and the switch to 8x, but even though the bios settings saved and everything else changed the multi was @ 9x when I rebooted and re-entered the bios.

Now it's either getting stuck @ default multi or sticking @ the last multi used before changing, not sure yet.

I wondered why my boot kept failing and then it got a bit further and I saw I was booting @ 4.2GHz with 1.45v! :D

[kup]

http://www.tyan.com/tech/matrix_flashUtility.aspx

check this out :up:

afuwin 4.24 has a /x function that ignores rom id
+
afudos v.4.04

AFUWIN is not supported by this bios, apparently? So says the software when I try to run it...

[ZenEffect]

AFUWIN is not supported by this bios, apparently? So says the software when I try to run it...

well nuts.

but, if said afudos emerges *i can search like a mofo* that is the engineering version.

1.) how would i identify it as such?
2.) could i do a direct flash instead of the hacked front-end loader as was this thread was based upon?

id rather do a direct flash if possible than do it from a usb stick as i dont have one handy:( will ez flash recognize cd?

[kup]

well nuts.

but, if said afudos emerges *i can search like a mofo* that is the engineering version.

1.) how would i identify it as such?
2.) could i do a direct flash instead of the hacked front-end loader as was this thread was based upon?

id rather do a direct flash if possible than do it from a usb stick as i dont have one handy:( will ez flash recognize cd?

Honestly I don't know how we'd know but is it worth trying the /n and /nr parameters that were detailed above for ignoring ROM ID with AFUDOS (any version, apparently?)

[ZenEffect]

Honestly I don't know how we'd know but is it worth trying the /n and /nr parameters that were detailed above for ignoring ROM ID with AFUDOS (any version, apparently?)

so if i can use the /nr switch i should be able to do a direct flash? without doing the front end loader and 2nd flash through ez flash? sorry for the questions but i need to know before i attempt and possibly both void and brick my mobo at the same time.

[kup]

I think so, from what was said up there ^^^? Easiest way to try would be directly flashing the Rampage bios, if it works with those parameters then it'll work to flash back too... If it doesn't work then you'll have to ask The Stilt for a recovery method?

[ZenEffect]

well... i did it.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/rampageformula.jpg

greg, why does my write and copy suck? what do i manipulate to up those?

and now that i know what is needed I WILL FIND THE ENGINEERING AFUDOS

if i could, i would buy stilts a drink!

[theonlybabyface]

Exactly what I was thinking. That gave a nice bandwidth increase....that board still runs on my brother-in-law's machine with the bootblock flash to this day!:D


I do remember the AFUDOS version needed for this was an engineering version. I believe that it was AFUDOS 116b...hmmmm.

[theonlybabyface]

this reminds me of p4p800d to p4p800e flashing, flash the bootblock then flash the new bios to add extra features.

really though changing the rom ID in bios with amibcp should be enough IMO, my versions here won't open the rampage bios though.

Did you try the old "PAT Hack" AFUDOS? Boy that was a long time ago!!!

[The Stilt]

http://www.tyan.com/tech/matrix_flashUtility.aspx

check this out :up:

afuwin 4.24 has a /x function that ignores rom id
+
afudos v.4.04

Asus uses customised AMI bios for most of their boards, so none of the AMI AFUDOS or AFUWIN programs will work.

[andyr(uk)]

Asus uses customised AMI bios for most of their boards, so none of the AMI AFUDOS or AFUWIN programs will work.

thanks for the info Stilt , this is a great mod , about time we got some payback from Asus

when new rampage bios is released i guess we just flash in the usual way ? using easyflash

[The Stilt]

thanks for the info Stilt , this is a great mod , about time we got some payback from Asus

when new rampage bios is released i guess we just flash in the usual way ? using easyflash

Yes, the new Rampage bios version will slip right in.
Unless Asus is really pissed off and they have not started to ship Rampage yet ;)

[andyr(uk)]

Yes, the new Rampage bios version will slip right in.
Unless Asus is really pissed off and they have not started to ship Rampage yet ;)

Cant see a Multi national like asus bothering about a few boards , i hope

[SmokeyTheBandit]

I am willing to give it a go on the P5E if i had the chance to skip the frikkin rom checks.

[s0lid]

Yes, the new Rampage bios version will slip right in.
Unless Asus is really pissed off and they have not started to ship Rampage yet ;)

Well i bought my Maximus from local computer store before it and X38 were even published :D

[nick2crete]

@The Stilt,
..what you think about the P5E3 Dlx to P5E3 Premium...would be also a possible mod to these 2..?

[ZenEffect]

Asus uses customised AMI bios for most of their boards, so none of the AMI AFUDOS or AFUWIN programs will work.

it appears im looking for afudos 2.27

[GabrielV]

switches /pbnc /n should work, I used these switches flashing my mb with a modded one.

[Warboy]

Can you do this with the P5K Deluxe to the P5K Prem.?

[Warboy]

Grr...ASUS is slacking, They still haven't contacted me and its been almost 2 days.

[TinyRK]

Would anybody with a
Maximus Formula using BIOS 1004 and an E6xxx
do me a favour and use the stability test of Everest and tell me their temps of CPU, Core #1 and #2?

I am wondering if I have to readjust my CPU cooler.

Thanks so much, appreciate it!

[The Stilt]

it appears im looking for afudos 2.27

Tell me if you can find it.
The real AFUDOS 2.27 version is like an unicorn, there are tons of stories about it but no one have seen it or have it ;)

I have seen many different "AFUDOS 2.27" versions which have all been either 2.07 or 2.17.

[ShawnTRD]

So what are people getting by doing this flash? I haven't seen and before and afters.

bump

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Tell me if you can find it.
The real AFUDOS 2.27 version is like an unicorn, there are tons of stories about it but no one have seen it or have it ;)

I have seen many different "AFUDOS 2.27" versions which have all been either 2.07 or 2.17.

http://rs139.rapidshare.com/files/40351125/AFUDOS_227_-_only_one_with_full_boot_block_flashing.rar

Had that in my favourites don't ask me why, haven't verified the version though.

[kup]

Good find, Marvin! I'll check it out as soon as I finish my SG1 Marathon! :D

[The Stilt]

http://rs139.rapidshare.com/files/40351125/AFUDOS_227_-_only_one_with_full_boot_block_flashing.rar

Had that in my favourites don't ask me why, haven't verified the version though.

Version 2.07
It is not the engineer version and it does not even support the EEMPROM of Maximus / Rampage.

[nick2crete]

@The Stilt,
..what you think about the P5E3 Dlx to P5E3 Premium...would be also a possible mod to these 2..?


Warboy;2834653']Can you do this with the P5K Deluxe to the P5K Prem.?

Stilt,
can you please answer to those...
I know that maybe, would be annoying for you since a lots of guys keep asking..but if you could tell us please..

[ZenEffect]

bump

before

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/pl7.jpg

after

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/rampageformula.jpg

with the rampage bios can get cas4 stable with common performance level of 6
need to test if i can oc it a bit more on this bios but i sure could tighten down some memory. :D

[kup]

I could only seem to set the performance level as low as 8, what did you do to get 6 or even 7?

What bios settings?

[The Stilt]

Stilt,
can you please answer to those...
I know that maybe, would be annoying for you since a lots of guys keep asking..but if you could tell us please..

They might work.
I can actually test both of them ;)

[ZenEffect]

I could only seem to set the performance level as low as 8, what did you do to get 6 or even 7?

What bios settings?

Common performance level 6
Pull-In of CHA PH1 enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 enabled

could only do it in cas4 though, cas5 could not get below 7

im at work now so i cant look at the exact settings but the ones above mentioned allowed me to go lower # performance level as i recall.

also...

this afudos was mentioned as a possible "engineering version" or something. like i said im at work so i can not verify if it works so im passing the buck on to you guys :p:

[nick2crete]

They might work.
I can actually test both of them ;)
That would be fantastic if you could do it..let us know please..thanks!:up:

[The Stilt]

this afudos was mentioned as a possible "engineering version" or something. like i said im at work so i can not verify if it works so im passing the buck on to you guys :p:


This version would do it if it only would support new EEPROMS.

[ZenEffect]

This version would do it if it only would support new EEPROMS.

well the search continues... :(

[Titus]

anyone else experiencing random lock ups during boot?...I'm using BIOS 0907 and every few times it just hangs on the boot screen right after it detects the memory as being OK...I can use the keyboard to hit the delete key and it shows "Entering BIOS" on the boot screen but it never goes past this screen...I have to hit the Reset key a few times for it to boot up properly...is this a problem with this BIOS?

[Zucker2k]

I can now do PL7 @ 500fsb+, needs about 1.6+ vnb tho.

I'm currently doing 8.5 x 500fsb, Cas 4, PL7 set (All pull-ins disabled).

[Den_Sjaekert]

I've got it semi stable at 400x9 finally. Prime ran for almost 8 hours before one of the threads stopped.

I guess NB voltage was the key since I upped it to 1.59V. I'll be testing it on 1.61V tomorrow, guess I'm finally close to knacking this thing.

[ericab]

as for the AFUDOS switches;

i found this forum with posts about it... their from 2005 though :/

http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-9596.html

[The Stilt]

as for the AFUDOS switches;

i found this forum with posts about it... their from 2005 though :/

http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-9596.html

Yes, AFUDOS v1.16b2 supported forcing the flash.
The newer versions do not unless they are engineer versions.

[kup]

Performance Level @ 7 now, lets see how it runs. Couldn't get 4, even with Cas 4 but that seems to be just out of reach...

[ericab]

ok, apparently an 'older version' of afudos is all thats nessessary.

using this command:

afudos /ibiosname /n /pbnc

-----------------------------

**i ripped this from another forum**

afudos /iBIOSNAME.rom

afudos /iBIOSNAME.rom /pnc

afudos /iBIOSNAME.rom /n /pnbc

The first choice is what most manuals will tell you to use. The one in the middle uses "switches" that tells afudos to "program NVRAM" and "destroy System CMOS." The last choice additionally tells afudos to "don't check ROM ID" and to "Program Boot Block."

----------------------------------

and finally; i believe i have stumbled upon afudos 1.16b2

i uploaded it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/99046156/AFUDOS.exe.html

*crosses fingers*

[theonlybabyface]

Yup. The correct syntax "should" be --> afudos /iRAMPAGE.ROM /n /pnbc

...just like to old "Pat Hack" days. :D

[ericab]

Yup. The correct syntax "should" be --> afudos /iRAMPAGE.ROM /n /pnbc

...just like to old "Pat Hack" days. :D

but, do you know if that works w/o the "engineering edition" of afudos ?

[Tony]

here is an old version I have (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ad.leach/P4P800%20bios%20files/AFUDOS.exe) this will work with all switches but im unsure if it will do core8 files

I have had the genuine 2.27, it may still be here somwhere...more later

Version linked here is 1.16B2

[theonlybabyface]

but, do you know if that works w/o the "engineering edition" of afudos ?

Well, back in the day when we did this for the "Pat Hack", that was the syntax used for the "engineering edition" of afudos. Hence why I said "should" work.

[Tony]

version 4.04 (http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/tony/Asus%20SPD%20fix%20for%202gb%20modules/AFUDOS.rar) supports switches and quiet operation may force

AFUDOS bios.rom /P/B/N/C/Q

I may have other copies on an old drive.

I also have F32A.EXE which i used to flash both BIN and ROM files, not sure it works with core 8 though

Edit I just rechecked and this version has switches for don't check rom ID, so you would need the following.

afudos bioname.rom /P/B/N/C/X

This should force the flash

[NBK]

anyone else experiencing random lock ups during boot?...I'm using BIOS 0907 and every few times it just hangs on the boot screen right after it detects the memory as being OK...I can use the keyboard to hit the delete key and it shows "Entering BIOS" on the boot screen but it never goes past this screen...I have to hit the Reset key a few times for it to boot up properly...is this a problem with this BIOS?

Hi

I had the same symptoms. It would also get no video.
:( I thought it was a RAM issue per Geil tech support...My RMA'd RAM should return Thursday or Friday and we will see.


NBK

[Tony]

Tested both mine and no worky :(

[ZenEffect]

Tested both mine and no worky :(

playing with v2.07 last night the only error i got before the no flash was a bad checksum, no match or something like that... so i will take what i learned flashing 2900xt's on a abit mobo and make matching checksums. hopefully it will work as the /n switch DID work :)

[GabrielV]

I uploaded afudos V4.xx information and usage for you.

http://home.online.no/~povese/AfuDos.pdf

[The Stilt]

Few things regarding the flasher:

The flasher needs to support the EEPROM & bios core versions before it can program anything.

First AFUDOS version which supports MXIC 25L1605A 16MB EEPROM (Rampage & Maximus) is version 2.23 IIRC.

AFUDOS or AFUWIN from AMI will NOT work because Asus uses customised AMI8 core. If you try to use either of them you will be prompted "bios does not support AFU"

Unless you are using the engineer version of ASUS AFUDOS /n /pbnc or any other switches will NOT help you. These switches have been disabled in standard version.

The standard version is restricted and it will not even program the DMI block (the main reason why I use khan.exe).

[GabrielV]

Few things regarding the flasher:

Unless you are using the engineer version of ASUS AFUDOS /n /pbnc or any other switches will NOT help you. These switches have been disabled in standard version.

The standard version is restricted and it will not even program the DMI block (the main reason why I use khan.exe).

This Must be wrong, i had to use the /pbnc /n switches to flash my modded bios
since my mod changed some of the acpi tables.

[ericab]

so...

whats the solution now? we should just stick with the original instructions from Stilt?

[ZenEffect]

Few things regarding the flasher:

The flasher needs to support the EEPROM & bios core versions before it can program anything.

First AFUDOS version which supports MXIC 25L1605A 16MB EEPROM (Rampage & Maximus) is version 2.23 IIRC.

AFUDOS or AFUWIN from AMI will NOT work because Asus uses customised AMI8 core. If you try to use either of them you will be prompted "bios does not support AFU"

Unless you are using the engineer version of ASUS AFUDOS /n /pbnc or any other switches will NOT help you. These switches have been disabled in standard version.

The standard version is restricted and it will not even program the DMI block (the main reason why I use khan.exe).

so even appeasing the error messages by correcting the checksum wont work? :shrug:

[andyr(uk)]

so...

whats the solution now? we should just stick with the original instructions from Stilt?


Yep i recon they worked for me , i thought you guys were after a way back to maximus and thats what you were searching for , if its just a way to rampage then stilts solution is great

[ZenEffect]

Yep i recon they worked for me , i thought you guys were after a way back to maximus and thats what you were searching for , if its just a way to rampage then stilts solution is great
thats what im after, the way back :cool:

[Zucker2k]

Could this be a bug? I'm running an E8400.

[Tony]

what does tRFC go to in the rampage bios? If 42 this will not help those with 4 and 8GB kits so really not worth the flash IMO until it does.

[Warboy]

Could this be a bug? I'm running an E8400.

Who trusts DXdiag to tell us the CPU stuff?

[BenchZowner]

You guys might want to give this very beta a try:

Asus Rampage Formula v0214 Beta ( Click to download ) (www.benchzone.com/Downloads/BIOS/Motherboards/Asus/Rampage_Formula/Beta/Asus_Rampage_Formula_BIOS_v0214.rar)

This one has higher tRFC options and can help in 2GB DIMMs overclocking.
There's a chance of getting lower overclocks with 45nm CPUs with this BIOS ( not tested though, it's just a possibility ), but for 65nm it's definitely ok.

[Zucker2k]

You guys might want to give this very beta a try:

Asus Rampage Formula v0214 Beta ( Click to download ) (www.benchzone.com/Downloads/BIOS/Motherboards/Asus/Rampage_Formula/Beta/Asus_Rampage_Formula_BIOS_v0214.rar)

This one has higher tRFC options and can help in 2GB DIMMs overclocking.
There's a chance of getting lower overclocks with 45nm CPUs with this BIOS ( not tested though, it's just a possibility ), but for 65nm it's definitely ok.

Thx... trying now.

@Warboy... Didn't get that with MF bios though.

[Grnfinger]

Could this be a bug? I'm running an E8400.

I experienced some "issues" after the conversion.
A fresh OS install sorted that all out, and everything is running smooth now.

Perhaps you might want to consider that?

[Zucker2k]

I experienced some "issues" after the conversion.
A fresh OS install sorted that all out, and everything is running smooth now.

Perhaps you might want to consider that?

This is a fresh install. Anyway, could be the OS.

Bios 214 looks good so far... I'll be testing for changes later.

[ZenEffect]

I experienced some "issues" after the conversion.
A fresh OS install sorted that all out, and everything is running smooth now.

Perhaps you might want to consider that?

oddly enough i re-did the os before i did the conversion (as i did not know that i was going to do it at the time) and ive got no issues with a q6600

[Grnfinger]

This is a fresh install. Anyway, could be the OS.

Bios 214 looks good so far... I'll be testing for changes later.

please post your findings on the new bios. Hope its wolfdale friendly.

Inlaws are over so I cannot test right now :shakes:

[ZenEffect]

please post your findings on the new bios. Hope its wolfdale friendly.

Inlaws are over so I cannot test right now :shakes:

inlaws ruin everything!:mad:

[coo-coo-clocker]

You guys need to update your sigs now :ROTF:

[tc17]

Newegg has nothing but open box now. I think they are gone, gone, gone.
The Maximus Formula hasn't been out that long or has it? I haven't even got mine installed in my case yet because I was waiting for some other stuff. But I would never have paid this much money for a board if I knew they were going to discontinue it so fast. That is just insane. Its not even out of its bug stage yet. Its been almost 3 months now since Asus has put out an official update to the bios.

Next time I buy a board, its going to be a cheap lower end board. Apparently the warranty means nothing if Asus doesn't even carry stock to replace it.

I know that Mwave.com still has stock of the Maximus Formula. I had purchased mine from them.

[ZenEffect]

You guys need to update your sigs now :ROTF:

update it to what? its not really a maximus and its not really a rampage... perhaps we should take a vote to the new name?

i vote

ham and chips :up:

[TheScavenger]

The Maximus Formula hasn't been out that long or has it? I haven't even got mine installed in my case yet because I was waiting for some other stuff. But I would never have paid this much money for a board if I knew they were going to discontinue it so fast. That is just insane. Its not even out of its bug stage yet. Its been almost 3 months now since Asus has put out an official update to the bios.

Next time I buy a board, its going to be a cheap lower end board. Apparently the warranty means nothing if Asus doesn't even carry stock to replace it.

I know that Mwave.com still has stock of the Maximus Formula. I had purchased mine from them.

The fact that NewEgg only has Open Box Maximi available is very curious. Could they be discontinuing them already?

[kup]

I like my name, "Maximus Rampage" instead of "Maximus Formula"? :D

[Renegade5399]

Raximus

Maxpage

Or, what I have in my sig:

Rampage Formula SE (X38 Edition)

[ericab]

im gonna call mine the "Maxpage Formula" :)

[kup]

im gonna call mine the "Maxpage Formula" :)

It sounds like a really fast pagefile! :D :cool: :rolleyes:

[ZenEffect]

I like my name, "Maximus Rampage" instead of "Maximus Formula"? :D

ill vote maximus rampage... ham and chips doesnt sound too cool really :rolleyes:

[kup]

ill vote maximus rampage... ham and chips doesnt sound too cool really :rolleyes:

Maximus Rampage for Presi...err...yeah... :rofl:

[Warboy]

ASUS is being a pain, Check out my thread in my sig about them and my Maximus.

[zlojack]

Maximus Rampage for sure!

[ericab]

yeah ok count me in too.


Maximus Rampage

[ZenEffect]

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/skirred.jpg

im scared to try this but you know what im thinking... left is the maximus 0907 bios.. right is the rampage bios from this thread.

SLKJSDLSDFeeeaewvvxsagbbewaLJFOWEEWeweefsvsbangshe adonkeyboardLSKJDF:Jxlkjlskljeeenn,VJKLLJKSD


also its only a way to get back to the rampage bios, not its romid though it should be possible seeing the 2 different rom id's to use a hex editor and change the romid manually... :(

though looking @ a hex editor i can see that i would be able to mod this bios pretty easily though i dont think its the best solution to this problem...

im gonna get me that unicorn...

[kup]

I've actually played with MMTool and the Rampage Bios before and I couldn't get it to work...

So what are you looking to do, fix the Rampage ID so we can flash to and from the Rampage and Maximus?

[ZenEffect]

I've actually played with MMTool and the Rampage Bios before and I couldn't get it to work...

So what are you looking to do, fix the Rampage ID so we can flash to and from the Rampage and Maximus?

that was the idea, but then it occurred to me you would be stuck with the rampage id so every time you go back to maximus you would have to use a modded bios or mod the bios yourself. the best thing to do should have been change the rampage id to maximus so you could switch back... but alas i got too anxious :p:

[atomica]

If the CPU Clock Ratio is set at Auto it fluctuates from 6 - 8 but when I set it manually to 10, it only stays at 10.

How do I manually set a range, like 8 - 10?

Thanks

[kup]

the best thing to do should have been change the rampage id to maximus so you could switch back... but alas i got too anxious :p:

This would work better. I can confirm that MM hasn't ever bricked any of my hardware, just never quite got the bios modifications right... :D

[ericab]

I've actually played with MMTool and the Rampage Bios before and I couldn't get it to work...

So what are you looking to do, fix the Rampage ID so we can flash to and from the Rampage and Maximus?


i think most people would be more comfortable being able to revert back to the default maximus bios..
i for one would.

[ericab]

ZenEffect;

upload the modded rampage bios (w/ the maximus ROMID) to rapidshare.

i wanna do a little delta compare/

[ZenEffect]

ZenEffect;

upload the modded rampage bios (w/ the maximus ROMID) to rapidshare.

i wanna do a little delta compare/

i will in a few min. im just double checking everything. :yepp:

*edit* bah now im all confused

*edit edit* deleted post, did not work. but im on to something here. i just gotta find the romid

[ericab]

keep me updated; im still here.

[ZenEffect]

well i have some progress...
i got past the invalid rom id error msg but now im stuck at

ERROR INVALID BOOT BLOCK

then no flash :(

[ZenEffect]

found a afudos 2.21(ES) wtf does the es mean?

[The Stilt]

found a afudos 2.21(ES) wtf does the es mean?

Please post a link.

[Leeghoofd]

set manually to 8 or 10 mate, you prolly stil got EIST enabled... no go to set to fluctuate between 8 and 10 that's not possible, it's value 6 and the one you define if you leave EIST enabled...

[Spyrus]

I have been lost somewhere. Why are you looking for the correct afudos?
In order to find a reversible way back to Maximus?

[ZenEffect]

Please post a link.

*edit, stupid zip format... should just allow rar too*

@ Spyrus

in short... yes.

[Grnfinger]

H8 to be a wet blanket here, but I changed my sig to "Maximus /Rampage" on the day that I made the conversion :p:


So is there any advantage with the new bios 214?

[Dostoyevsky77]

The fact that NewEgg only has Open Box Maximi available is very curious. Could they be discontinuing them already?

It's not just that, look HERE (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131227&ATT=13-131-227&CMP=OTC-Froogle&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Motherboards+-+Intel-_-ASUS-_-13131227). It says "Deactivated Item"...

TigerDirect still has them, but ZZF is out. They better still give us BIOS revisions for Yorkfield (and the 1600FSB chips).

[kevinali]

I have 8 gb of ddr2-667 on my Asus Maximus Formula running at the standard 333 Mhz. I have the ram timmings set to 5-5-5-15. The RAM is generic K-Byte 2GB modules but they have the Micron D9 chips. I had these modules in my old gigabyte board running at 4-4-3-9 with no problems at all. After exchanging the motherboard for the Asus (and reading the horror stories about this board and its picky ram requriements), i left the timmings at 5-5-5-15. Will i notice any speed increase, just doing "normal" work in going to a 4-4-4-12 timming or keep the super stable 5-5-5-15 settings

So far the system is very stable at 5-5-5-15


Kevin

[kup]

well i have some progress...
i got past the invalid rom id error msg but now im stuck at

ERROR INVALID BOOT BLOCK

then no flash :(

I used to get that same error when I flashed a SLIC edited bios, forced a flash using the old Asus Update and it would work just fine anyway.

Not vouching for it 100% but I never had any problems...

[Dostoyevsky77]

In the normal course of things, you won't notice much - if any - difference between CAS4 and CAS5. The differences will become more noticeable when you are coming closer to peak performance when RAM bandwidth becomes a bottleneck. For day-to-day operations, this condition is almost never met.

Incidentally, I was not aware that Micron made D9 ICs for 2GB modules. Are you certain that is what they are? Can you point us towards a source?

[Pete]

I have the Asus ES tool your after. No i will not give you it. However what you wanting done and i might be able to fit it in my work load and do it for ya

[kevinali]

I think that i will avoid any tempation (read: frustration) and leave the ram timmnig alone

As for the source of these modules

I picked up 4 of these from Best Buy of all places...they had K-Byte 2gb modules with ram ic from two different manufactures 1. Specktek and 2. Micron. I grabbed the micron based memory (i know its micron from the M logo on the ram chips) and the model # are the D9HND (7KE22 if that means anything) on the chips. There are no ram heatsinks attached to the modules...so reading the types were easy

Kevin

[ante_ante]

How does 0214 performs ? Is it worth upgrading from 0207 ? I´m on a E8500 and 2gig memory.

[andyr(uk)]

I have the Asus ES tool your after. No i will not give you it. However what you wanting done and i might be able to fit it in my work load and do it for ya


That would be great if you could Pete ! be nice to be able to change between Rampage and Maximus and visa/versa

[Zucker2k]

I think *Rampage* Formula is good enough :D

If you live in the US, you know how useful an asterisk can be.

[ReverendMaynard]

Maximus Rampage for Presi...err...yeah... :rofl:

what about Maxipage or Rampaximus? Okay, one sounds like a feminine hygiene product and the other sounds like a brutal sex-toy.

Maximus Rampage it is!!!!

[coo-coo-clocker]

Rumpicus Maximus!


Oh come on, you know you were thinking it...

[ZenEffect]

I have the Asus ES tool your after. No i will not give you it. However what you wanting done and i might be able to fit it in my work load and do it for ya

why would you not share the afudos?

[ZenEffect]

I used to get that same error when I flashed a SLIC edited bios, forced a flash using the old Asus Update and it would work just fine anyway.

Not vouching for it 100% but I never had any problems...
what vers.? send a link and i can try it with the romid modded bios in a few hours *at work again :( god i hate my job*

[kup]

"My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next." - Rampage...

:D

[ZenEffect]

****************************** Z96S-INTEL *****************************
This file is for internal use only, please do not pass this file
outside ASUS directly.
************************************************** **********************
Model : Z96S-INTEL
North : Intel Crestline
South : Intel ICH8M
SIO : No use ITE8511 Embedded Contoller
FlashPart : MXIC mx29lv800

AFUDOS Version : 2.27
************************************************** **********************
CPU MicroCode Support :
M206E10C , M206E008 , M206E426 , M206E839 , M206EC54
M206F005 , M276F111 , MF56F426 , M206F536 , M206F648
M806F538 , M806EC59 , M806F983 , M806FA91 , M021066114
M806FDA0

************************************************** **********************
PES Version : Unknown
************************************************** **********************
Rework Item : Unknown
************************************************** **********************
PGM Filename : Z96S.bin
************************************************** **********************

************************************************** **********************
0107.ROM 04/19/2007 S96S-INTEL-0107.ROM M/B 1.01
Hardware guy Alan2 Chen Hardware BOM number REV 1.00
Bytes Reserved : 3E000 Bytes Used : 66888 Bytes Free : 5B778
Non-Critical Block # 0 Size : 10000 Bytes Free : FE80
checksum F24B.
Model:S96S-INTEL
BOM:UnKnow
1. Update VGA option rom

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0106.ROM 04/17/2007 S96S-INTEL-0106.ROM M/B 1.01
Hardware guy Alan2 Chen Hardware BOM number REV 1.00
Bytes Reserved : 3E000 Bytes Used : 66884 Bytes Free : 5B77C
Non-Critical Block # 0 Size : 10000 Bytes Free : FE80
checksum 26C4.
Model:S96S-INTEL
BOM:UnKnow
1. Update SMBIOS 'BIOS information BIOS Version'

2. Restore 1394 UUID after resume S3


************************************************** **********************
0105.ROM 04/14/2007 S96S-INTEL-0105.ROM M/B 1.01
Hardware guy Alan2 Chen Hardware BOM number REV 1.00
Bytes Reserved : 3E000 Bytes Used : 66878 Bytes Free : 5B788
Non-Critical Block # 0 Size : 10000 Bytes Free : FE80
checksum 266C.
Model:S96S-INTEL
BOM:UnKnow
1. Update ICH SSID/SVID

2. Fixed Robson item can't choose

************************************************** **********************
0104.ROM 04/12/2007 S96S-INTEL-0104.ROM M/B 1.01
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Bytes Reserved : 3E000 Bytes Used : 66864 Bytes Free : 5B79C
Non-Critical Block # 0 Size : 10000 Bytes Free : FE80
checksum A320.
Model:S96S-INTEL
BOM:UnKnow
1. Add IDE/AHCI and Robson module items

2. Updated VGA rom

3. Updated Thermal control

************************************************** **********************
0103.ROM 03/23/2007 S96S-INTEL-0103.ROM M/B 1.01
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Non-Critical Block # 0 Size : 10000 Bytes Free : FE80
checksum EB05.
Model:S96S-INTEL
BOM:UnKnow

1. Set Ricoh Device SSID/SVID

2. Set VGA spread spectrum

3. Updated Verb Table

4. Changed 1394 ID address(From SMBIOS to NVRAM CNFG Block)

5. Patch System hang when hot plug New card(Vista)

6. Open PCI Express root3(PR Machine support)

7. Updated VGA Rom

8. Fixed AFlash2 Updated issue

9. Power squence delay changed(HW Request)

10. LCD brightness value changed

************************************************** **********************
0102.ROM 03/08/2007 S96S-INTEL-0101.ROM M/B 1.01
Hardware guy Alan2 Chen Hardware BOM number REV 1.00
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Non-Critical Block # 0 Size : 10000 Bytes Free : FE80
checksum AA67.
Model:S96S-INTEL
BOM:UnKnow
1. Set VGA SSID is 826C1043h

2. Combine KeyBoard Matrix

3. Updated VGA rom

4. Fixed Aflash2 updated failed issue

5. Changed BKINFO attribute 0 to 1

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Hardware guy Alan2 Chen Hardware BOM number REV 1.00
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checksum 26E2.
Model:S96S-INTEL
BOM:UnKnow
1 Initial Version




verification that it does exist and antoher lead to hunting it down

[Warboy]

Stilt, can you do a Maximus Extreme to Rampage Extreme bios setup? or is the X48 Board going to have different name and different design?

[kup]

Zen, what are those changelogs for?

[ZenEffect]

another afudos that i found with es... supposedly supports switches according the the .bat file that came with it

version 2.20ES