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Face
03-05-2008, 02:30 PM
Microsoft Wednesday unveiled Internet Explorer 8 (IE8), and posted links to what the company called "Beta 1 for developers." Anyone, however, can download and install the preview. IE8 Beta 1 will be available in separate versions for Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2003 and Windows Server 2008.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/ie8/readiness/Install.htm

Download:

Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 for Window XP SP2 (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=110324)

Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 for Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=110325)

Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 for Windows Vista x64 Edition and Windows Server 2008 x64 Edition (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=110328)

What's new? (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/ie8/readiness/NewFeatures.htm)

Richard Dower
03-05-2008, 02:35 PM
Sweet, downloading and installing now.

triple_A
03-05-2008, 02:58 PM
Installed it, feels like it loads pages faster than IE7..

Edit: It doesn't display windows live mail :D

AC3421
03-05-2008, 03:26 PM
Whats the difference?? And who would ever use IE over FireFox anyways??

bigdaddy25fb
03-05-2008, 03:45 PM
Supposedly this version of IE is supposed to be fully standards compliant. That would be one reason.

TG01
03-05-2008, 03:52 PM
Whats the difference?? And who would ever use IE over FireFox anyways??

Anyone who hasn't got his head stuck up his arse as high as you have ..?

cozwin
03-05-2008, 04:11 PM
Anyone who hasn't got his head stuck up his arse as high as you have ..?

"microsoft fanboy detected"

GripS
03-05-2008, 04:16 PM
Anyone who hasn't got his head stuck up his arse as high as you have ..?

Now that was uncalled for.... why??

To answer his question there are still many times when Firefox will not work in certain circumstances. I use Firefox myself as my primary browser. However there are times when i have to fire up IE when a page won't display properly.

STaRGaZeR
03-05-2008, 04:16 PM
"microsoft fanboy detected"

Starting erradication lol

SuperPysz
03-05-2008, 04:19 PM
I am really happy to hear that this version is standards compliant. I am so sick of wirting hacks or 4 different versions of code just to get my websites to display properly in different browsers (IE 6+7 are the worst). I'm sure there will be a huge relief from this when its fully released. :D

AC3421
03-05-2008, 04:26 PM
Now that was uncalled for.... why??

To answer his question there are still many times when Firefox will not work in certain circumstances. I use Firefox myself as my primary browser. However there are times when i have to fire up IE when a page won't display properly.



I have never had this prob with FireFox. Only probs I have is having to install some missing plugins for it, but that takes like 2 sec so no biggie.

AC3421
03-05-2008, 04:28 PM
Anyone who hasn't got his head stuck up his arse as high as you have ..?


Well all righty then. :rolleyes:

SuperPysz
03-05-2008, 04:31 PM
I have never had this prob with FireFox. Only probs I have is having to install some missing plugins for it, but that takes like 2 sec so no biggie.
microsoft genuene advantage wont work in FF. You also cant sign up for a new hotmail/live account in FF (thie email availability verification field wont work). So MS is trying to control market share with compatibility control.

cozwin
03-05-2008, 04:32 PM
microsoft genuene advantage wont work in FF. You also cant sign up for a new hotmail/live account in FF (thie email availability verification field wont work). So MS is trying to control market share with compatibility control.

microsoft sites in general hate firefox for obvious reasons.

SuperPysz
03-05-2008, 05:33 PM
microsoft sites in general hate firefox for obvious reasons.

i think thats why they like yahoo and wanted to buy them too, yahoo's music/video/radio service didn't work in FF the last few times i checked/tried.

alucasa
03-05-2008, 06:28 PM
No Korean banking site works in FF, either. I have to use IE to access any Korean banking sites.
Furthermore, Firefox does not work at all in majority of Korean entertainment sites. IE is the only way.

red
03-05-2008, 06:29 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2312185045_7681c7756e.jpg

Considering the speed over IE7, and those occasional need for IE-only sites, I say, why not?

AC3421
03-05-2008, 06:41 PM
microsoft genuene advantage wont work in FF. You also cant sign up for a new hotmail/live account in FF (thie email availability verification field wont work). So MS is trying to control market share with compatibility control.


Thats totally false. I have made several Hotmail/Live accounts on my computer recently, and I don't even have IE installed. Only Firefox, and everything worked perfectly fine.

MotF Bane
03-05-2008, 07:35 PM
Just install the IE tab feature to Firefox, and you're all set.

Anyways, congratulations to Microshaft for stealing tab crash recovery.

deathman20
03-05-2008, 07:54 PM
I like IE perfectly fine. FireFox is a fine browser as well.... but why install another broweser if all the sites, and some sites that I know have issues with FF, all work in IE.

Might give this a whirl.

ferrari_freak
03-05-2008, 08:33 PM
I like IE perfectly fine. FireFox is a fine browser as well.... but why install another broweser if all the sites, and some sites that I know have issues with FF, all work in IE.

Might give this a whirl.

Well it really all comes down to what's faster and compared to FF, IE7 was a turtle (at least for me). Maybe things will change after IE8 but for now I'm going to stick with Firefox.

HotGore
03-05-2008, 09:16 PM
Pretty much a little interface redesign, and support for web standards. Only took over 8 versions. No reason to go nuts unless you are a developer.

zsamz_
03-06-2008, 03:36 AM
intalled it
nothin special
got lots of little bugs in it but it is just a bit faster

FischOderAal
03-06-2008, 03:56 AM
I like IE perfectly fine. FireFox is a fine browser as well.... but why install another broweser if all the sites, and some sites that I know have issues with FF, all work in IE.

Might give this a whirl.

I don't know when I noticed errors on website due to Firefox the last time. I use Firefox since, I think, 0.8.x and at that time there were several websites that were not displayed correctly. I haven't seen any the last three years.

but I'll give IE8 Final a try, though it won't compete with Firefox in terms of extensibility.

I just love mouse gestures ;)

gillll
03-06-2008, 04:08 AM
got probs with php sites but works fine in "emulate ie7"

Eastcoasthandle
03-06-2008, 04:14 AM
Whats the difference?? And who would ever use IE over FireFox anyways??

Well if I want to update I have to use it. Unless there is another way to do it?

FischOderAal
03-06-2008, 04:24 AM
Well if I want to update I have to use it. Unless there is another way to do it?

why don't you use autoupdate? I configured it that way that patches are downloaded automatically but I choose when and which to install.

Galactic
03-06-2008, 06:13 AM
I kind of hate IE and use Fx, but this is still interesting, due to the claimed standards compliance, and I'll try this.

SuperPysz
03-06-2008, 06:23 AM
Thats totally false. I have made several Hotmail/Live accounts on my computer recently, and I don't even have IE installed. Only Firefox, and everything worked perfectly fine.

when i tried to do it recently, it didn't work. so maybe something is different with your computer, maybe its vista, are you running xp or vista?

EDIT: just saw ur sig, i run vista 32, maybe its bc im running FF Beta v3.0b3

Ub3r-L33ch
03-06-2008, 06:45 AM
Who makes Internet Explorer?

iddqd
03-06-2008, 06:49 AM
Whats the difference?? And who would ever use IE over FireFox anyways??

The latest version of BloatFox 2.0.something is slow and leaky as boat made entirely out of swiss cheese. Seriously, with a lot of IE6's glaring flaws fixed, who'd bother with Mozilla?

2fink
03-06-2008, 06:50 AM
Who makes Internet Explorer?

microsoft :wth: :hm: :stick:

bigdaddy25fb
03-06-2008, 07:11 AM
I think its absolutely hilarious that they make the browser standards compliant with Acid 2.0 and then Acid 3.0 gets release...so far I think the highest score on it has been around 80 something by safari. The current build of firefox only scores a 50 ( firefox beta 3 is somewhere around 70). Link here: Acid 3 Test (http://acid3.acidtests.org/)

red
03-06-2008, 07:24 AM
The latest version of BloatFox 2.0.something is slow and leaky as boat made entirely out of swiss cheese. Seriously, with a lot of IE6's glaring flaws fixed, who'd bother with Mozilla?

If you have some semblance of a modern PC, it shouldn't be slow and bloated.

http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/02/firefox-3-ultimate-feature-performance/
http://cybernetnews.com/2008/02/25/firefox-3-performance-gets-a-boost/
http://bdn.backbase.com/blog/sjoerd/performance-is-everything

Also, in the past 1-2 weeks past Firefox 3 Beta 3, significant strides have been made in the javascript performance which should help in things like Digg, Google Maps. In the long run, memory management has been noticably down.

I think it's an awesome result that the current nightlies of both Webkit and Gecko are 2x / 3x faster than the current production versions. Can't wait until Firefox 3 is released to the public!

Marvin_The_Martian
03-06-2008, 07:24 AM
Only thing which looks like a nice feature are the web slices, now I want to be able to drag those anywhere on my desktop :D

KALISPIMENTA
03-06-2008, 08:58 AM
I think its absolutely hilarious that they make the browser standards compliant with Acid 2.0 and then Acid 3.0 gets release...so far I think the highest score on it has been around 80 something by safari. The current build of firefox only scores a 50 ( firefox beta 3 is somewhere around 70). Link here: Acid 3 Test (http://acid3.acidtests.org/)
My IE scored 100 and firefox beta3 -59

RaZz!
03-06-2008, 09:07 AM
My IE scored 100 and firefox beta3 -59

your IE scored 100? which one are you using? my IE7 gets like 12 points - one can't even recognize the page, it's a total mess with everything overlaping.
ff 2.x gets 50 pts, ff3beta3 59 pts.
IE6 gets 11 pts :p:

Marvin_The_Martian
03-06-2008, 09:18 AM
your IE scored 100? which one are you using? my IE7 gets like 12 points - one can't even recognize the page, it's a total mess with everything overlaping.
ff 2.x gets 50 pts, ff3beta3 59 pts.
IE6 gets 11 pts :p:


12 here to :up:

KALISPIMENTA
03-06-2008, 09:31 AM
Well i got the mess to but then it asked me if i want to run the activex control a said yes,then i refreshed it and i got 100:shrug:

n-sanity
03-06-2008, 09:35 AM
Lol... here's some wisdom i just found, concerning the release of ACID3 the day after IE8 beta comes out to smack MS around the face:

The Explorer used the Navigator to go on a Safari and find a Firefox. He became a Konqueror and came back to the Opera. And no, I'm not on ACID(3) ... :ROTF:

Feel free to alter this / quote it in ur sig :P

Drunner611
03-06-2008, 10:03 AM
Whats the difference?? And who would ever use IE over FireFox anyways??

Agreed, I uninstall that crap from windows every time I reinstall XP. I haven't used IE in ages. They copied FireFox tabs anyway.

Now that was uncalled for.... why??

To answer his question there are still many times when Firefox will not work in certain circumstances. I use Firefox myself as my primary browser. However there are times when i have to fire up IE when a page won't display properly.

Just use the IE tab extension. Oh yeah, thats why FireFox kicks but. Extensions and a community that actually develops its product.

metro.cl
03-06-2008, 11:11 AM
feels just like IE7

vitaminc
03-06-2008, 11:15 AM
Whats the difference?? And who would ever use IE over FireFox anyways??

1. FireFox 2 or 3 beta/minefield leaks more than my 95 year old grandpa.
2. I can get mouse gesture using IE7Pro on IE.
3. Financial sites are better compliant with IE.

[XC] NetburstXE
03-06-2008, 11:27 AM
Microsoft non-beta products are so buggy I'd be scared to even try a M$ beta product.

CoolZone
03-06-2008, 12:16 PM
can anyone please tell how does this version work instead of being offtopic?

Marvin_The_Martian
03-06-2008, 12:25 PM
CoolZone the thread went offtopic because everything what can be said about the app is already said... it's MS, it's IE, it's still not really standards appliant, it's a beta..

What more do you need to know? List off sites that work with it?

/sarcasm

Lighten up abit, plenty off usefull posts in this thread if you ask me? And if you got a specific question, just ask it... if you want to know how it works, download it and try for yourself and then come back and join the off topic talk because you'll see everything you thought about sharing with us is already mentioned :toast:

illidan
03-06-2008, 01:17 PM
downloaded... installed... man it is so slow, compare to opera 9.5

Piotrsama
03-06-2008, 01:37 PM
your IE scored 100? which one are you using? my IE7 gets like 12 points - one can't even recognize the page, it's a total mess with everything overlaping.
ff 2.x gets 50 pts, ff3beta3 59 pts.
IE6 gets 11 pts :p:

46 for Opera 9.26

xoqolatl
03-06-2008, 01:55 PM
Why is that test so important? Isn't real life usage a better test? In real life, I see no real problem with IE or Firefox, but only Opera displays my HTML 4.01 Strict compliant page (http://volt.iem.pw.edu.pl/~brzostm1) properly.

Slay0r
03-06-2008, 01:58 PM
I had to set it to emulate ie7 or some forum codes would bork up, therefore its pretty much like using ie7.

RaZz!
03-06-2008, 02:32 PM
your IE scored 100? which one are you using? my IE7 gets like 12 points - one can't even recognize the page, it's a total mess with everything overlaping.
ff 2.x gets 50 pts, ff3beta3 59 pts.
IE6 gets 11 pts :p:

installed IE8beta1 on my winxp-vm. it gets 17 pts.

but the first thing i noticed was that IE8 opens new tabs way faster than IE7 does.
my IE7 always hangs for a sec when opening a new tab - the IE8 on the other hand opens new tabs as fast as firefox (nearly without delay). - so there are indeed speed improvements. :)

jfyi, on my homerig 90% of the time i'm using IE7 as it's more intuitive for me. at work i use firefox portable only.

strange|ife
03-06-2008, 03:26 PM
I use both, firefox mostly. But yes ff wont work on every site. IE is most compatible, sorry guys.

Opera is great also, just can't get used to it for some reason..it is on my HD's though.

Mortal
03-06-2008, 04:39 PM
Opera is great also, just can't get used to it for some reason..

Yeah, it took me a while too, but I'm glad I gave it a third chance! Loved it ever since. :)

DR G frag
03-06-2008, 05:53 PM
IE8B1 crash everytime when I open http://vr-zone.com :(
all right for the moment with my other open website.

GAR
03-06-2008, 09:05 PM
Firefox FTW!!!!!!

safan80
03-06-2008, 09:22 PM
as long as we are talking beta web browsers firefox has ff 3 beta 3
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/releasenotes/

here's a download link for windows mac os x and linux
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html

Galactic
03-07-2008, 07:05 AM
About ACID3, the latest nightly (30868) of Webkit scores 90 in it, a bit larger than Opera or Firefox. IE8b1 gets 10.

s1nykuL
03-23-2008, 05:15 AM
Well i got the mess to but then it asked me if i want to run the activex control a said yes,then i refreshed it and i got 100:shrug:

:ROTF:

If I remember correctly ActiveX controls are proprietary controls and in themselves are not standards compliant. Maybe this control was written specifically to give a score of 100 in this test.
Could IE8 final be fully standards compliant? It would be about time. I aint holding my breath though, for I cannot see m$ ever being anything but anti-competitive.

It is a pain having to test web code on different browsers, and tweaking/hacking so that it works on the most popular. Perhaps web developers should code for standards compliance, putting a disclaimer on site stating that the page will not render correctly on non standards compliant browsers. If all web devs did this then I bet it would not be too long before all web browsers were in fact compliant. We have the power, but not as individuals. The fear of losing hits/money seems to override what is in fact the right thing to do. It is OUR Internet not m$'s or Mozillas.