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ownage

03-05-2008, 01:03 PM

Source (http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcwelt.de%2Fcebit2008 %2Fnews%2F149245%2Findex.html&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=nl&ie=UTF8)

German computer magazine PCwelt shows an 30.000 euro monstermachine @ Cebit, and they give it away :eek:

Specs
processor: x2 Intel QX9775 @ 4ghz cooled by Coolit
Motherboard: Skulltrail :cool:
Graphics cards: 2x Geforce 9800X2 Quad-SLI
memory: 8gb FB-dimm @ 800mhz
harddisks: 4 Seagate SAS 15k raid0, total of 300gb space.
PSU: Thermaltake 2000watt

Take a look:
http://tweakers.net/ext/i/1204733183.jpg

http://tweakers.net/ext/i/1204733206.jpg

http://tweakers.net/ext/i/1204733259.jpg

http://images.pcwelt.de/images/pcwelt/bdb/98916/800x.jpg

xoqolatl

03-05-2008, 01:08 PM

they give it away :eek:

ME WANTS!!!

BullGod

03-05-2008, 01:08 PM

triple_A

03-05-2008, 01:09 PM

That's crazy :D
How do i win it? xD

S1mon-

03-05-2008, 01:11 PM

Are there any drivers ready for that kind of Quad-SLI?

ownage

03-05-2008, 01:12 PM

That's crazy :D
How do i win it? xD

They hold a simple lottery :shocked:
I dont know how much a ticket costs, i'm not @ the Cebit :(

deathman20

03-05-2008, 01:13 PM

OMG.... They gave it away... :banana::banana::banana::banana:... man a lot of places are giving away rediculous systems these days.

xoqolatl

03-05-2008, 01:14 PM

It's disgusting... just to think probably some German Angry Kid will get such system... what a terrible waste of engineering effort that went into designing that hardware.

triple_A

03-05-2008, 01:15 PM

They hold a simple lottery :shocked:
I dont know how much a ticket costs, i'm not @ the Cebit :(

But you don't need to come to Cebit in order to get a chance of winning this thing, right?

@S1mon- , I wouldn't mind winning this baby even if there aren't any proper drivers for it :D

One_Hertz

03-05-2008, 01:17 PM

How does this cost ANYWHERE NEAR 30k euros?

ownage

03-05-2008, 01:18 PM

It's disgusting... just to think probably some German Angry Kid will get such system... what a terrible waste of engineering effort that went into designing that hardware.

:rofl: :ROTF:
You mean like the famous german kid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA)?
http://partners.sympatico.msn.ca/content/feeds/videos/purevideo/entertainment_sv_20071206_Angry_German_Kid.jpg

Unfortunately i couldn't find more specs of this system. It has 4 SAS harddisk, but it looks like it has another 4. Also i think that the case is a Mozart?

hollo

03-05-2008, 01:23 PM

OVERCLOCKED 8-CORE QUAD-SLI GERMAN ANGRY KID

oh shi-...
:lol:

Jamesrt2004

03-05-2008, 01:23 PM

How does this cost ANYWHERE NEAR 30k euros?

probably the SAS HDD'S lol

xoqolatl

03-05-2008, 01:24 PM

Yes I mean that kid, I used YouTube vid cos I thought everyone would understand what I hav in mind :D

K404

03-05-2008, 01:25 PM

How does this cost ANYWHERE NEAR 30k euros?

Mr Hertz has beaten me to the punch. Im not up to speed on the cost of SCSI HDDs, but I appear to be a few thousand off the pricetag of this rig....

GX2- £400 each
CPU: £1000 each
mobo:400
RAM: not terrible cheap
HDDs- unlikely to be cheap
case- who cares
PSU- call it £300

thats £3.5K + RAM + HDDs and I really hope RAM + HDDs do not sum to 15K

XS Janus

03-05-2008, 01:30 PM

LOL that german kid was my first thought to!
:D

hecktic

03-05-2008, 01:30 PM

maybe it was a misprint.... 3k euro ?

DFI pit bull

03-05-2008, 01:31 PM

That 30,000 euro machine only gets 5.8 rating in vista, my 1,000 euro machine gets 5.9 haha:D but I still want one.

Kasparz

03-05-2008, 01:33 PM

K404, 800MHz FB-DIMM are very expensive.
HDD's cost about 500pounds.
Coolit system prodably cost another 300pounds.
Remember that there are two cpu's that cost 1k pounds each.
Case+CCFL+LCD+coolers+random stuff cost about 1k pound.
Also, i see 8, not 4 HDD's.
Of course overclocking and pimprig factor costs another 5k pounds.

deathman20

03-05-2008, 01:33 PM

You know you lucky guys in Europe could enter for this...
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=nl&langpair=de%7Cen&u=http://leseraktion.pcwelt.de/f25bcb10f352d922a47b3a962f71ee52.php%3F%26templID% 3D8053%26vers%3D3f0ad6e0598989a50afd99ee39b3572d%2 6r%3D%26lid%3D%26redirect%3Dhoelle3

BTW Yeah I don't see how this is 30k Euro's. Abit not as much GPU or HDD or a nice fancy custom case was included but there was a 10k Skulltrail system that someone just one recenlty. It could very well be 30k Euro's since well everything seems to cost more in the Europe computer wise, unless im wrong if so someone correct me.

Sorry for us rest of us.. looks only European from all that I could translate out of the country lists.

If somoene wins because I gave them the link, I get a portion of it ;)

Origin_Unknown

03-05-2008, 01:37 PM

its in a thermaltake mozart case? they can :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing keep it

Sly Fox

03-05-2008, 01:37 PM

Wow... Just wow... I think I would saw off my own little toe for this computer!

#su

03-05-2008, 01:38 PM

using pretty high estimates...
cpu: 2000.00
motherboard: 400.00
gpu: 2000.00
mems: 800.00
psu: 500.00
hdd: 4000.00
case: 400.00

only comes to 10,100.00USD. not sure what that is in euro.

and yea, i see 7, not 4, or 8 HDD's. and the HDD's are magnetic not solid state. so in reality 300gb total thats probably 40 or 60 gig drives. so its more like 400.00 instead of 4000.00.

ownage

03-05-2008, 01:40 PM

This source (http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcore.tweakers.net%2Fnieuw s%2F52266%2Fskulltrail-systeem-met-twee-9800-x2-kaarten-verloot.html&langpair=nl%7Cen&hl=nl&ie=UTF8)says its a 30k machine. It's build by a company which makes it more expensive then only the parts.

deathman20

03-05-2008, 01:44 PM

CPU's would be either 1200 or 1500 each
Mobo is 600 or 800 if not mistaken
GPU's was like 600 each
Memory is expensive much more than 800 say 2000
HDD 250 each sounds nice
Case a nice amount 400 maybe 600 for it being realyl custom
Cooling 300
PSU, being 2kw, what would taht be 600?
Case Lights, Fans say 200
The small LCD screen probably 200
Add in its one of a kind 1000
Add in that its OCed 1500 because of its high clocks and risk
Add in warrenty i'd assume 1000

Stuff adds up quick so thats.... 14,400 Euros give or take a few hundred.

Thats just what I can think of now.

NeedMoMegaHurtZ

03-05-2008, 01:47 PM

1 euro = 1.52 USD

Still doesn't add up?

Maybe they hid some diamonds or cocaine inside :)

dj.oxa

03-05-2008, 01:49 PM

ownage

03-05-2008, 01:49 PM

The ugly custom paint job won't be cheap either.

Edit:
dj.oxa was a bit faster then me :p:

marcus000

03-05-2008, 01:50 PM

Rather just have the money tbh... pointless!

custom painting case 1000 euro
LOL never in a million years would it be that much.

3NZ0

03-05-2008, 01:57 PM

LOL never in a million years would it be that much.

Are you stupid or something?

An external paint job would START at that price, airbrushing is a very, very expensive process.

+ Interior job and the cut-outs, the case alone is going to be worth more than most set-ups on this forum.

goramus

03-05-2008, 02:06 PM

if your spending that much you would think they would have done a way better job on the cable management.

Blauhung

03-05-2008, 02:06 PM

I'm not sure, but it looks like there's only one CPU in there, and there's like almost no room to put a heatsink on the second one. That case is no good for E-ATX at all.

#su

03-05-2008, 02:07 PM

+custom painting case 1000 euro
+lcd thing
+this special cpu cooling
+another 4 samsung disks every of terrabyte capacity
+blu-ray

custom paint + 200.00 max. no one charges 1000.00 for custom paint. not around here at least.

special cpu cooling? its a heatsink... $100 max
i only see 7 HDD's, none of them are SSD either. all magnetic.
blu-ray drive - 200.00
so you take off 3500 for lack of ssd drives.. and add 500 for the items you listed and you're well under 10000.00

as others have said. even if it's 10000.00, give me 2000.00 and i'll destroy that thing with what i build.

Omastar

03-05-2008, 02:07 PM

Now featuring: onboard sound! What a steal!

vitaminc

03-05-2008, 02:07 PM

cegras

03-05-2008, 02:09 PM

Is this doesn't make you go broke buying it, the noise will break you, and the electricity bill will take care of your bank as well.

ownage

03-05-2008, 02:11 PM

Those Pre-released graphic cards probably have cost allot. I don't think they bought it for $550 a piece!

#su

03-05-2008, 02:14 PM

SAS HDDs are as expensive as off-the-shelf SSD HDDs (and almost certainly more expensive if you add in the cost of SAS controller).

i misread that part... even so... add 900 for the hdd's and controller, still not even close to 10000.00

edit.... 30000 euros = 45846 usd
lol. get real.

Those Pre-released graphic cards probably have cost allot. I don't think they bought it for $550 a piece!

you're right, they probably got them for free

dj.oxa

03-05-2008, 02:18 PM

custom paint + 200.00 max. no one charges 1000.00 for custom paint. not around here at least.

special cpu cooling? its a heatsink... $100 max
i only see 7 HDD's, none of them are SSD either. all magnetic.
blu-ray drive - 200.00
so you take off 3500 for lack of ssd drives.. and add 500 for the items you listed and you're well under 10000.00

as others have said. even if it's 10000.00, give me 2000.00 and i'll destroy that thing with what i build.

thrust me,this airbrush+case is 1000 euros,look @ the airbrushed coolermasters,cost 1000 euros,shown on cebit too

Chewbenator

03-05-2008, 02:38 PM

PC World Dream PC Contest here:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,141628/article.html

$30,000

BTW I think they are the same company therefore same specs maybe?

n3wbi3

03-05-2008, 02:43 PM

Are you :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing kidding me? You can get a 2006 Porsche Boxster in mint condition for that money. This computer stuff is getting ridiculous!

I second that ..... RIDICULOUS

Papu

03-05-2008, 02:48 PM

• Labor for building and troubleshooting -- 100 hrs at $50/hr - $5,000

lol

my old pc shop it was 70 an hour , thats what 90 bucks?

ferrari_freak

03-05-2008, 02:54 PM

custom paint + 200.00 max. no one charges 1000.00 for custom paint. not around here at least.

Erm, yeah..... PC Gamer reviewed a custom built Northwest Falcon back when 7800GTX just came out, and this computer had a custom paint job costing $1700.

Entity_Razer

03-05-2008, 03:11 PM

is it just me thinking so many SAS 15k RPM disk's should NOT be placed on TOP of the freacking hardware? The vibration and motion of those disk's spinning up must be tremeandous.... enough to make the case wobble I reckon...

Prob. anchored and bolted into soldi concrete :D

#su

03-05-2008, 03:25 PM

thrust me,this airbrush+case is 1000 euros,look @ the airbrushed coolermasters,cost 1000 euros,shown on cebit too

coolermasters? lol. those cases aren't hand painted. they are painted by a computer/machine with a design. it costs coolermaster about $2 for paint +standard case build cost. the rest is markup.

Erm, yeah..... PC Gamer reviewed a custom built Northwest Falcon back when 7800GTX just came out, and this computer had a custom paint job costing $1700.

same thing with falcon, these things are mass produced. if i go to the guy here in pittsburgh that did my goalie masks, and a couple penguin goalie masks, he would do that case for about $60. he did 3 goalie masks (which are much more difficult than a computer case) with a much more detailed drawing of a panther with flames for $95 each. normally would have $115 for just one.

hell, i can go to the mall and get my case painted a lot nicer than the ones in this thread for under $200.

i'm not arguing that the cases you guys listed cost that much, i'm just saying that it's all markup. the paint job is not valued anywhere near that high.

DFI pit bull

03-05-2008, 03:28 PM

Are you :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing kidding me? You can get a 2006 Porsche Boxster in mint condition for that money. This computer stuff is getting ridiculous!

And in some countries you can buy a house for less, then buy a decent rig with whats left.

#su

03-05-2008, 03:33 PM

And in some countries you can buy a house for less, then buy a decent rig with whats left.

lol, $45000 USD would be a perfect downpayment for a $200,000 house

WRC

03-05-2008, 03:55 PM

it probably costs that much because of unreleased graphic cards, no matter March 18 they should be out anyway. I want to see benches NOW

DFI pit bull

03-05-2008, 04:53 PM

it probably costs that much because of unreleased graphic cards, no matter March 18 they should be out anyway. I want to see benches NOW

And the software :D

• Microsoft Office Ultimate 2007 - $629.99:shocked:
• Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 64 - $379
• Microsoft Windows XP SP2 - $249.99
• Adobe Master Collection CS3 - $2,750.99:shocked: :shocked:
• EA Crysis - $49.99
• Microsoft Flight Simulator X Deluxe - $59.99
• Call of Duty 4 - $59.99
• Half Life 2: Orange Box - $61.99
• Battlefield 2142 Deluxe Edition - $30.99
• Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0 - 73.99
• System Commander 9 - $69.95
• Acronis True Image Home $49.95

Total= $4466:eek: :eek:

deathman20

03-05-2008, 05:04 PM

Good lord...
• 3 NEC LCD2490WUXi-BK 24.1" Widescreen LCD Monitor - $3,866.97
• Three monitor mounting system from 9xmedia - $1000

Those gotta be some nice monitors to cost nearly 1300 each.

GAR

03-05-2008, 05:59 PM

nice hardware, ugly case!! whats up with those stupid lights......very unattractive, but under the hood is impresive

THRASHER2

03-05-2008, 06:14 PM

PC World Dream PC Contest here:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,141628/article.html

$30,000

BTW I think they are the same company therefore same specs maybe?
Dream PC Prize Description & Estimated Retail Value

System Components

• GIGABYTE 3D Mercury GZ-FW1CA-AJS Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case – $399
• Custom Case Painting by Gary Berg - $1500
• OCZ ProXStream 1000 watt power supply - $299.99
• 2 Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9775 Processors - $2600
• Intel D5400DX "Skulltrail" dual-CPU Motherboard - $500
• 4 Kingston KVR800D2D4F5/2G- $520
• 2 EVGA GeForce 8800 Ultra Video Card - $1259.98
• 2 OCZ 64GB internal solid state disks (SSD) - $3,000.00
• Adaptec RAID 3405 adapter card - $390
• 4 Cheetah® 15K.5 SAS 3Gb/s 300-GB Hard Drives - ST3300655SS - $3,931.20
• 2 LG Super Multi GGW-H10NI BD burner HD DVD reader - $1,999.98
• Ultra Internal 3.5" Floppy Drive w/Multi Card Reader Black - $29.99
• Cables Unlimited UV Reactive Mode Kit with Dual Tube UV CCFL Lights, Fans, Floppy Cable and ATA133 Cable - $26.99
• Vantec UV Reactive Motherboard Slot Protector - Green - $4.99 (PCIe)
• Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1800 PCIe NTSC/ATSC/QAM tuner - $149
• Emu 1616M PCI Sound card and breakout box (studio quality inputs and A/D, D/A, surround via digital) - $599

Display

• 3 NEC LCD2490WUXi-BK 24.1" Widescreen LCD Monitor - $3,866.97
• Three monitor mounting system from 9xmedia - $1000

External Peripherals and Components

• Iomega UltraMax Pro eSATA 1.5TB - $504
• APC Back-UPS RS 1500VA LCD – 249.95
• Logitech diNovo Edge Keyboard - $199.99
• Logitech MX AirTM Rechargeable Cordless Air Mouse - $149.99
• Logitech Z-5500 THX Certified 5.1 500-watt Dolby Digital & DTS Hardware Decoding Speaker System - 209.99
• Canon Pixma MP970 Printer - $299.99
• Icemat Siberia Headphones/mic - $79
• Saitek X2 Flight control system - $119.95
• Xbox 360 Gamepad controller - $39.95

Software

• Microsoft Office Ultimate 2007 - $629.99
• Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 64 - $379
• Microsoft Windows XP SP2 - $249.99
• Adobe Master Collection CS3 - $2,750.99
• EA Crysis - $49.99
• Microsoft Flight Simulator X Deluxe - $59.99
• Call of Duty 4 - $59.99
• Half Life 2: Orange Box - $61.99
• Battlefield 2142 Deluxe Edition - $30.99
• Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0 - 73.99
• System Commander 9 - $69.95
• Acronis True Image Home $49.95

Miscellaneous

• OCZ Freeze Thermal Compound - $5.99

• Labor for building and troubleshooting -- 100 hrs at $50/hr - $5,000

TOTAL ESTIMATED RETAIL VALUE: $30,924.76

HAHAHAHAH!!!! I can Build a CHeaper and Better PC!

masterg

03-05-2008, 11:27 PM

SAS is scsii and those are like 4x the price of any SSD

s0lid

03-05-2008, 11:53 PM

hmmm why i don't see any coolin on the second cpu?
http://tweakers.net/ext/i/1204733259.jpg

Look trought those wires to cpu socket, Do you see any cooling on that?

Just for sample SK board:
http://techgage.com/articles/conferences/idf/sf_07/skulltrail_1.jpg

WeStSiDePLaYa

03-05-2008, 11:56 PM

SAS HDDs are as expensive as off-the-shelf SSD HDDs (and almost certainly more expensive if you add in the cost of SAS controller).

No they aren't. a 300GB 15k drive is only 600$.

and since they said only 4 15k drives totally about 300 gigs. that would be seagates 15k 73gb drive, which is only 200$.

People here should check out online stores before tossing these prices around.

And 1000$ for airbrushing this case? there is case mod sites that do it for not even half.

WeStSiDePLaYa

03-05-2008, 11:59 PM

SAS is scsii and those are like 4x the price of any SSD

Maybe you should actually check out prices.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?minorcatid=109&subminorcatid=317

AC3421

03-06-2008, 12:28 AM

Its still not true Quad-SLi

And why is the damn thing so tall???

AC3421

03-06-2008, 12:29 AM

Oh, and it appears as the second CPU slot is not being used for those wondering about the cooling on the second CPU.

FUGGER

03-06-2008, 01:33 AM

They are both present, water lines above the "C", there is a shroud over the first CPU that also covers the NB some, I see a little sticking out.

I see a coolit on the second CPU.

Dualist

03-06-2008, 01:35 AM

Big SturL

03-06-2008, 02:49 AM

1 euro = 1.52 USD

Still doesn't add up?

Maybe they hid some diamonds or cocaine inside :)

Hahah, lmao :D:D:D

STaRGaZeR

03-06-2008, 02:58 AM

• Labor for building and troubleshooting -- 100 hrs at $50/hr - $5,000

Pfff :lol:

gundamit

03-06-2008, 03:29 AM

takamishanoku

03-06-2008, 04:46 AM

I don't care how much it is, it's damn good. = )

maatriks

03-06-2008, 05:56 AM

Pfff :lol:
? Renting a lab with equipment isn't so cheap. Even when they had the lab already, they can add this to prize, coz the lab was full of this computer :)

STaRGaZeR

03-06-2008, 06:39 AM

? Renting a lab with equipment isn't so cheap. Even when they had the lab already, they can add this to prize, coz the lab was full of this computer :)

Yeah sure, but with that in mind they can charge you $10,000 :ROTF:

Who cares, it's all about the e-penis :p:

#su

03-06-2008, 06:48 AM

Did the difference between the 30K and what it actually cost go into the marketing department's slush/whore fund?

BTW - Here in the U.S. a prize like that would have to be declared as income on your tax returns. Same elsewhere?

lmfao! if you win this in the US you'll have to pay $7,893 in taxes! hahahaha. you could build something 1000x better with the taxes you'd pay on it alone. :rofl:

clonez

03-06-2008, 06:50 AM

that computer is like sooooo overpriced :ROTF: :rofl: :clap:

you could get a fully fletched workstation for that money:shocked:

quad k10 + quadro fx 5600 + 32 gig memory here i come :yepp:

Afterburner

03-06-2008, 06:56 AM

I'd rather opt for 3 x Mtron Pro SSDs raided or a fusion io drive..... :D

clonez

03-06-2008, 07:07 AM

jeah, a raid 4 or 6 with the new 256 gb samsung ssds should cost about that much..:down:

ownage

03-06-2008, 07:12 AM

that computer is like sooooo overpriced :ROTF: :rofl: :clap:

you could get a fully fletched workstation for that money:shocked:

quad k10 + quadro fx 5600 + 32 gig memory here i come :yepp:

Well thats a damn lame system :rolleyes:
Why would you ever trade a 2x 3.2ghz intel quadcores for one lame K10 quadcore and why a Quadro 5600?

gundamit

03-06-2008, 07:17 AM

lmfao! if you win this in the US you'll have to pay $7,893 in taxes! hahahaha. you could build something 1000x better with the taxes you'd pay on it alone. :rofl: Might be okay in Europe since I think income tax isn't as much as an issue as the VAT.

clonez

03-06-2008, 07:56 AM

dude, im talking about FOUR k10, 16 cores

Fujimitsu

03-06-2008, 08:05 AM

its in a thermaltake mozart case? they can :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing keep it

:up:

THat's what I thought too.

Butt-ugly "mods" on the inside too.

I'd still take it for free though :P put it where it belongs... on a mobo box!

lutjens

03-06-2008, 02:29 PM

A nice system, unfortunately with a motherboard that's like Bigfoot (rumored to exist, but unable to be found) and video cards that can't be bought yet, and whose performance is still unknown.

[XC] gomeler

03-06-2008, 02:49 PM

How did I miss this thread? 30k Euro is enough for 30 well-equipped computers :eek: I'm sorry but for 30K it had better have a 2 stage cascade built inside an enormous case and run both chips at 5+GHz 24/7 and a warranty for half a dozen chips to replace the current ones as they burn out.

strange|ife

03-06-2008, 02:54 PM

Nice rig, the SAS Drive's arent cheap. They skimped on cooling though, and wire managment is a mess for that price. This is just a marketing tool and a poor one at that..companies should be showing off system's in compact layout's with power under the hood to boot, especially for the new generation of gamer.

for that money like somebody said, could down payment for a home..a nice car, or a downpayment on this telescope

talk about expensive hobby!!

http://www.optcorp.com/product.aspx?pid=1-600-605-1001-8037

KoHaN69

03-06-2008, 04:12 PM

With those same guestimates, my s939 dual-core is a $5000 PC