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little_scrapper
03-03-2008, 07:19 PM
This thing is running my internet connection crazy. ZA is pinging constantly.

sierra_bound
03-03-2008, 07:33 PM
WCG is not a bandwidth-heavy app. After you install the BOINC client, you will likely see more bandwidth activity than normal because it is downloading work units to be run or cached. Under normal operation, the only times bandwidth is really being used is during the downloading and uploading of work units, or if you manually request something from the server.

One other thing. BOINC needs to be able to open outbound connections to either port 1043 or 31416. So if your firewall is blocking those ports, you need to make sure they're open.

little_scrapper
03-03-2008, 07:37 PM
Its not heavier then normal, its freeking constantly ringing the bell!!!

And when I end "it".. my connection goes back to zero activity. So ALL of this internet activity is from WCG.

fart_plume
03-03-2008, 07:39 PM
have you set za to let pass through, if not set for pass through then it won't alarm out.

little_scrapper
03-03-2008, 07:42 PM
have you set za to let pass through, if not set for pass through then it won't alarm out.Forgive my ignorance but your post is less then clear to me. Do I set ZA to allow wcg to pass or not pass?

fart_plume
03-03-2008, 07:45 PM
Yes set za to pass wcg through

sierra_bound
03-03-2008, 07:46 PM
Under ZA program control, you need to let the BOINC client have access to the internet. The client is what actually communicates with the WCG servers, telling them to send or upload work units.

little_scrapper
03-03-2008, 07:48 PM
It is and was. WCG is constantly running my internet connection at almost full throttle. What gives.

sierra_bound
03-03-2008, 07:52 PM
You are using the default settings on your My Grid page at the WCG site? You can try this. On the BOINC Manager, go to Advanced, then Preferences. In the upper right-hand corner you see a button marked "Clear". When you hit it, all your settings will default to your web-based preferences (i.e. the settings you set in the Device Profiles section of your My Grid page).

little_scrapper
03-03-2008, 07:59 PM
You are using the default settings on your My Grid page at the WCG site?
I am? how do you know that?

You can try this. On the BOINC Manager, go to Advanced, then Preferences. In the upper right-hand corner you see a button marked "Clear". When you hit it, all your settings will default to your web-based preferences (i.e. the settings you set in the Device Profiles section of your My Grid page).


I did that and nothing has changed in regards to my internet connection being all used up.

little_scrapper
03-03-2008, 08:11 PM
I set the thing up for minimum inpack on system. And it is still pegging my 5MB connection hard. Im going to have to turn this thing off because I cant hardly even surf the msn home page without this thing causing 10+ second page loads... wth.

sierra_bound
03-03-2008, 08:14 PM
I am? how do you know that?
I was asking if you were using default settings.:) No, I can't read your mind.;)

I have ZA on one computer. The meters are always active, if that's what you're worried about. But if you check the activity section of your Local Area Connection (Windows), you are probably not seeing many packets sent or received.

Some WCG projects are more memory-intensive than others. That may be what's slowing your browsing. With a quad-core, I would recommend a minimum of 2GB of RAM. For a dual-core, at least 1GB.

little_scrapper
03-03-2008, 08:25 PM
quad? wha? dual who? Im running on an ancient Sempron laptop. hehe. :) You are very correct though, even though ZA seems to show massive throughput its actually very few packets when looking at my network connection. That is wierd. ZA is feeding my paranoia very well.. bastards!!!

This is what happens when my sig rig blows up and I have to RMA 3 or 4 components at once. I start reading. Next thing you know Im helping out my fellow man. God! I gotta get my rig back up so I can get back to some activities with absolutely zero socially redeeming values whatsoever. :)

OK when I get my rig back togather I will continue to help the cause. Hey but just so you know, I am 54 minutes away from finishing my 1st task. WOOHOO!! It will only have taken about 11 to 12 hours when done. Thats pretty good right?

sierra_bound
03-03-2008, 08:31 PM
I don't have a Sempron. But a few other members might. Maybe they can chime in. Most of the people here are running dual or quad cores because more work can be processed in a given time period. With a quad core, BOINC will crunch four work units at a time. It will utilize all the cores. This does heat up the processor a little, so good cooling is essential.

fallwind
03-03-2008, 08:42 PM
What Zone Alarm is probably seeing is the constant communication between BOINC manager(the UI you see on the screen) and the BOINC client(the app that handles the work being done). This isn't real internet traffic so you can set ZA to ignore it.

STEvil
03-03-2008, 09:42 PM
ZA may be blocking the data that BOINC is requesting which is why BOINC is constantly using the net.

Hymay
03-03-2008, 09:49 PM
Might also uncheck the african climate work in your wcg settings.. that one uses bandwith I think. I could be wrong about that one.. so if anyone knows for certain, please chime in.

sierra_bound
03-03-2008, 10:08 PM
If he has ZA set so that it allows internet access for the BOINC client, then he should be fine. Whenever you install a new program, a ZA pop-up window will ask if you want to give it access.

The ZA meters are somewhat deceiving. They are constantly bouncing up and down when BOINC is running. But they don't really indicate internet traffic. As I mentioned earlier, one look at your Local Area Connection activity will tell you that.

D_A
03-03-2008, 11:11 PM
The BOINC client talks to the science applications via the internal network port. Note that: the INTERNAL port, not the one that goes out to teh big bad interweb. If you pull the cable out of your system ZA will show no difference with regards to the activity caused by BOINC. That is, again, because it isn't talking over the network, it's addressing the local host (127.0.0.1) which is the same machine. If you block BOINC with ZA you will possibly kill the work you have already downloaded as it will lose the application's "heartbeat" and assume it's locked up.

Grafton
03-04-2008, 05:03 AM
i had a sempron what you need to do is go to the boinc preferences and uncheck the box run while computer is in use, because for some reason on semprons they dont multi task as well as some other single cores in my experience, do that and you wont have a problem with web browsing and such thats why its laggy not that boinc is using you internet connection the boinic servers cant even push over 100kb/s down to me and i have a 6mb/s connection. theres just know way boinc is killing you internet
as far as za going all blinky on you its a terribly inacurate way to monitor you internet connection try something like netmeter its free and shows you how much bandwidth your using
and i see you have a e4300, thats where i would run boinc full time you pretty much wont notice that it's running in the background on the dual core i left mine on full bore and never got a noticeable slowdown when i had a dual definitely not now that i have a quad

little_scrapper
03-04-2008, 07:01 AM
Yea when I get my sig rig back up and running ill drop it in there.

[XC] riptide
03-04-2008, 09:47 AM
Scrapper..... show me how its killing your connection. gimme screenshots.

Anyways i've posted before the 'network' traffic boinc uses on a PC. The Boinc manager continually streams data from the boinc.exe through local host on 2 ports. Its only about ~16kilobytes per second.. Its not really internet.

[XC] riptide
03-04-2008, 09:48 AM
The BOINC client talks to the science applications via the internal network port. Note that: the INTERNAL port, not the one that goes out to teh big bad interweb. If you pull the cable out of your system ZA will show no difference with regards to the activity caused by BOINC. That is, again, because it isn't talking over the network, it's addressing the local host (127.0.0.1) which is the same machine. If you block BOINC with ZA you will possibly kill the work you have already downloaded as it will lose the application's "heartbeat" and assume it's locked up.

^^^ LOL... damn already answered ,

SparkyJJO
03-04-2008, 11:14 AM
I run ZA on my main PC and my two WCG crunchers run through it to the internet. ZA isn't that active at all, I get more activity from the dimes clients than WCG.

little_scrapper
03-04-2008, 04:45 PM
Im just paranoid. When I see ANY continuous activity and Im not gaming or surfing the net I pretty sure someone has haxed my computer and I need to reformat!!

D_A
03-05-2008, 01:19 AM
These days it doesn't hurt to be a little paranoid but you don't have to worry about BOINC. It's all good.

Of course it's not paranoia if somebody IS out to get you. ;)

Grafton
03-05-2008, 05:11 AM
when your asleep i hax your pc and rearrange your icons




















lol

little_scrapper
03-05-2008, 10:20 AM
I was wondering why that was happening.

And, just because your paranoid doesnt mean I'm not out to get you!