Crysis for PS3; 'will be an almost 50% new game'

[Monkeywoman]

An interesting little news piece in the latest issue of UK magazine PSW gives the indication that, not only is Crysis definitely heading to the PS3, but the extra content will make the PC version look like a demo. The magazine states that "it's no secret that Crysis is coming to PS3 this year. The excitable, hard-worked coders over at Crytek have said as much in many interviews - they've even produced a new, multi-platform engine in readiness - but the real juice here is that it won't be a straight conversion of the PC game. We understand PS3 Crysis will be an almost 50% new game, with many of the original games staff taken off PC Crysis months before release to begin to work on Crysis 2 and a port to PS3 that will include aspects of the sequel - but a new structure, environments, weapons and enemies will feature on PS3. This should be one of the year's biggest console shooters."

Sounds good to us! We'd love to see an expanded version of the game heading to PS3. With such high system requirements, it's the only way we'll be able to play the game with its intended graphics. "Almost a 50% new game," though? That sounds a little fishy. We're firmly labeling this one as the rumor it is. Fingers crossed, though!

looks like Cell still has a little bit more power left:up:

source; http://www.ps3fanboy.com/

[LowRun]

I suppose if they don't rewrite 50% of the game for the PS3 it will top at 5 FPS :p:

[Papu]

mmmm its just gonna love that 256mb of ram :D yum yum

[Helmore]

I suppose if they don't rewrite 50% of the game for the PS3 it will top at 5 FPS :p:

I think you are exaggerating a little too much with your numbers, I think it would be more along the line of 0.67 FPS.

[vengance_01]

You can not judge the PC Performance and PS3. The Architecture is completely different. Also they have one set of hardware to work with, thus it allows them to push the hardware to the max VS the 1,000's of different computer configurations with all different levels of performance.

[perry_78]

You can not judge the PC Performance and PS3. The Architecture is completely different. Also they have one set of hardware to work with, thus it allows them to push the hardware to the max VS the 1,000's of different computer configurations with all different levels of performance.

True. 6fps then.

[kemo]

You can not judge the PC Performance and PS3. The Architecture is completely different. Also they have one set of hardware to work with, thus it allows them to push the hardware to the max VS the 1,000's of different computer configurations with all different levels of performance.

He is saying the same thing , completely different Architecture needs a rewrite , the problem is that you wont be bale to tell the difference between 0.6 and 1 fps :rofl:

I suppose if they don't rewrite 50% of the game for the PS3 it will top at 5 FPS :p:

[Genius_pt]

I suppose if they don't rewrite 50% of the game for the PS3 it will top at 5 FPS :p:

Wow, so ps3 will have a slide show game for us to play! :rofl: :rofl:

[turtletrax]

I never understood why Sony paired a 7800GTX'ish GPU with the Cell. Like putting a Ferrari F430 engine in a Lada...

[Vryada]

I never understood why Sony paired a 7800GTX'ish GPU with the Cell. Like putting a Ferrari F430 engine in a Lada...

Actually, the Cell processor is very powerful. Unfortunately, its main problem resides in the complexity of the structural design it possesses, making it extremely difficult to deal with (most programmers said that even with extensive sdk’s, it still was a pain).

[triple_A]

So this will be like far-cry; the PC version won't get the extra content? :( (or didn't farcry on x360 have additional content :D )

[Shift]

Effing beautiful, I'm buying me a PS3 this coming summer. Crysis here I come.

[Papu]

Effing beautiful, I'm buying me a PS3 this coming summer. Crysis here I come.

with mgs4 on the way also , i may follow suite

[deathman20]

The issue with crysis isn't CPU power so to say, its GPU power that it takes a HUGE hit from. Or its just horrible coding and hopefully they will get it right.

[Papu]

i guess with 8 cores they can do ALLOT of multithreading :D and do it specifically for the ps3 , the game could be awesome , me thinks the PC version will look better tho .

[Helmore]

i guess with 8 cores they can do ALLOT of multithreading :D and do it specifically for the ps3 , the game could be awesome , me thinks the PC version will look better tho .

Well, there is only 1 proper core in Cell, the other 7 can be used for physics and whatnot...

[turtletrax]

Actually, the Cell processor is very powerful. Unfortunately, its main problem resides in the complexity of the structural design it possesses, making it extremely difficult to deal with (most programmers said that even with extensive sdk’s, it still was a pain).


I fully understand how powerfull the Cell is (I fold with my Ps3), I just wonder whay they attached so much power to a relatively old GPU. The RSX is a tweaked 7800GTX from my understanding.

[[cTx]Raptor22]

mmmm its just gonna love that 256mb of ram :D yum yum

and the 7800.... :shakes: :ROTF:

[Helmore]

I fully understand how powerfull the Cell is (I fold with my Ps3), I just wonder whay they attached so much power to a relatively old GPU. The RSX is a tweaked 7800GTX from my understanding.

No performance tweaks as far as I know, only make it compatible with the rest of the PS3 hardware and it is being manufactured on 65 nm. as of late.

[NickS]

with mgs4 on the way also , i may follow suite

As well as Gran Turismo 5 Prologue

[[cTx]Raptor22]

As well as Gran Turismo 5 Prologue

Yeah, thats the reason I want a PS3, I love gran turismo games. :up:

[XS2K]

If this will look and run better on PS3 than it does on PC I am gonna f'kin kill each and everyone developer which participated in the PC version...

[[cTx]Raptor22]

If this will look and run better on PS3 than it does on PC I am gonna f'kin kill each and everyone developer which participated in the PC version...

Is that possible with a 7800GTX? :shrug: :rofl:

[deathman20]

Raptor22;2813303']Is that possible with a 7800GTX? :shrug: :rofl:

At 720p? Man my 8800GT Highly OCed had issues playing nicely at that rest in certain parts, but if its modified engine maybe. If it can play at that 1080i shouldn't be too hard, but 1080p no way.

[Soulburner]

At 720p? Man my 8800GT Highly OCed had issues playing nicely at that rest in certain parts, but if its modified engine maybe. If it can play at that 1080i shouldn't be too hard, but 1080p no way.
My 8800GT handles Crysis just fine on High @ 1920x1200 (higher than 1080p) :shrug:

Either way, I don't see them having a problem running Crysis @ 30fps on the Playstation 3 hardware.

[xlink]

The RSX isn't a 7800 GTX GPU. It is actually better and worse. It is a 7950 GT GPU, with half the memory bus width and number of ROP.

and a somewhat longer but more efficient pipeline.

it's closer the 7800 than 7900 because it uses the 7800s pipeline.

[Qkjhfhaiguihfma]

just a correction, the cell has 8 spu's, sony accepts any chip with at least 7 working spu's (increased early yields, not an issue now), and the ps3 keeps one spu for itself (os use).

games get 6 spu's to use however they want.

[vengance_01]

I am taking bets PS3 version will trump the PC versions some how, some way, LOL:rofl:

[kromosto]

i see how ps3 can run cod4 so i dont think 256mb ram or 7800gtx style gpu is a problem

[shiznit93]

I have been reading the Cell subforum at beyond3d for a lil while and the feeling is that the SPEs are very capable of doing much of the work of a traditional gpu if programmed properly, apparently many shader programs run very well on the SPE and crysis uses them extensively. If crytek can can put them all to good use we could se something special.

[[XC] hipno650]

let us not forget that the RSX is not only a 7800 but it is a 7800 with HALF the mem bus it's only 128:( and the whole 256mb for the entire system. lovely. they might be able to pull some decent frames from 480i:D but HD forget about having any ware near the looks of the PC at any high. also it will not only be a graphical slide show but a loading slide show. walk 10 feet *5min of loading* walk the next 10 feet *5min of loading*. if it takes 30 sec to load a truck in motorstorm then i am not looking forward to crysis levels:(

i will buy this for my PS3 just to compare with the PC

[Swatrecon_]

god dammit, i was hoping for a 360 version. It'll be interesting to see how the PS3 does with it. They lock a lot of PS3 games at 30FPS, so i think it could handle it. Especially with the hardware optimization.

[WRC]

but crysis 2 should be released for PC as well right?

[KoHaN69]

If it doesn't support keyboard & mouse, I'm going to punch them in the face.

[Papu]

If it doesn't support keyboard & mouse, I'm going to punch them in the face.

:rofl:

[Rock&Roll]

If they mean they are redoing the later 50% of the game's story line, then it might be a much better game. Man the crysis story line after you get into the alien mountain was among the worst story lines in any media that I have ever seen.

[grimREEFER]

a fast cpu, too little ram, and a slow gpu...
its gonna look like crap. im not even sure they can get it to run at 1080p
the physics and AI will be true to the pc version though i guess

[Drunner611]

You can not judge the PC Performance and PS3. The Architecture is completely different. Also they have one set of hardware to work with, thus it allows them to push the hardware to the max VS the 1,000's of different computer configurations with all different levels of performance.

Exactly, that's why the PC version was so ridiculously crappy. There like, oh, this looks ok, someone should be able to play it. The PS3 they have to code it better because there is no wonder PS3 that's better than everyone else's. If they would have taken the time to do the same on the PC version, it wouldn't have gotten such a bad aura about it. The gameplay was boring anyway.

[munim]

IIRC this is XS, where the population should know better than what they seem to be posting. The PS3 is an optimized piece of kit, the game will be optimized to run on it. COD4 looks beautiful on the PS3, they use some trickery to achieve the look but it looks excellent just the same.

[AlterBridge86]

god dammit, i was hoping for a 360 version. It'll be interesting to see how the PS3 does with it. They lock a lot of PS3 games at 30FPS, so i think it could handle it. Especially with the hardware optimization.

Its coming to the 360 also:

http://www.xboxic.com/news/2227

Don't forget this news came from the PSW, which is a playstation magazine, so of course they won't mention the 360 version of it...

Regardless, I doubt either will look as stunning as the PC version...look forward to additional content though :)

[xlink]

a fast, but almost impossible to utilize cpu, too little ram, and a slow gpu...


fixed

[Gen]

hope they make it online as well so i can pwn all the controller noobs on my pc :)

[ColonelCain]

They had better patch Crysis to make it a "1.5" or something, because quite frankly this feels like a slap in the face.

[HotGore]

Maybe at 720p, but I can't see it doing 1080p native.

[Metroid]

Console games will never ever be FPS equally to the PC's one.

Sure new game. They can not do something that will not run.

Metroid.

[Daveb2012]

50% less graphic quality? I don't own a PS3 so this doesn't matter to me, I wish they would focus effort on PC or multi-platform only.

[strange|ife]

ahh this explain's the complete lack of patch's for pc, I see...


right.

[Disaster_Master]

the old xbox uses a tweaked geforce 2 and the xbox games like halo you can't play that on you pc geforce 2.

so i think it's the same whit the ps3, you cant compare it whit the desktop.

But if Nvidia didn't cut back on the membus and the rops it would be even better.

[takamishanoku]

i see how ps3 can run cod4 so i dont think 256mb ram or 7800gtx style gpu is a problem

But seeing how it runs HL2 episode 2, hmmmm.

Really depends on the coding but COD4 isn't half as demanding as crysis is, now is it. At best i think 30fps 720p, with 'high' settings. No DX10 on the PS3 anyway (for what that counts).

[nemrod]

50% less graphic quality? I don't own a PS3 so this doesn't matter to me, I wish they would focus effort on PC or multi-platform only.

I've read somewhere that COD4 was sold ten time more on console than pc.
(BioShock five time)

[Aleki]

OMG! look at the ingame rendering :shocked:
http://www.nintendoplayers.com/images/games/1476_2.jpg
:sofa:



edit: i'll just throw out that CoD4 is a pretty looking game, but you can tell where they cut corners in making it a real game. The AI is dumb enough where the programmers had to actually tell them where to go, the physics of that game were less than flattering. the first map gives you a taste of their lack of effects. in the prologue, where before you start the leader (forget his name) is smoking a cigar. the smoke moves with his head, and its obvious where they cut off the map. also, in the car chase scene. it looked like the programmers were making a C rated game, lol
Dont get me wrong, the one thing they did very well was hire incredible writers. If Crytek had the CoD4 writers, it would have been an epic game.

[Swatrecon_]

hope they make it online as well so i can pwn all the controller noobs on my pc :)

I look forward to that. :up:

[deathman20]

OMG! look at the ingame rendering :shocked:
http://www.nintendoplayers.com/images/games/1476_2.jpg
:sofa:



edit: i'll just throw out that CoD4 is a pretty looking game, but you can tell where they cut corners in making it a real game. The AI is dumb enough where the programmers had to actually tell them where to go, the physics of that game were less than flattering. the first map gives you a taste of their lack of effects. in the prologue, where before you start the leader (forget his name) is smoking a cigar. the smoke moves with his head, and its obvious where they cut off the map. also, in the car chase scene. it looked like the programmers were making a C rated game, lol
Dont get me wrong, the one thing they did very well was hire incredible writers. If Crytek had the CoD4 writers, it would have been an epic game.


LOL Golden Eye FTW

[Ub3r-L33ch]

I suppose if they don't rewrite 50% of the game for the PS3 it will top at 5 FPS :p:

Yes, they will release the game at that speed because everyone loves to play a slow game. :rolleyes:

[drjunk]

the old xbox uses a tweaked geforce 2 and the xbox games like halo you can't play that on you pc geforce 2.

so i think it's the same whit the ps3, you cant compare it whit the desktop.

But if Nvidia didn't cut back on the membus and the rops it would be even better.

I think the old xbox used geforce 3 gfx....I wish they had continued developing games for it....bloody good system....reliable too.

[shiznit93]

I think the old xbox used geforce 3 gfx....I wish they had continued developing games for it....bloody good system....reliable too.
At the time, Geforce 3 was top of the line and the Xbox was just as fast as the best PCs when it came out (well the celly was a little gimp but consoles have less overhead). If it only had more ram, it would have been really special. The 1.0 motherboard had slots for 128MB total, but seems like late in development they cut it to 64.

[[cTx]Raptor22]

At the time, Geforce 3 was top of the line and the Xbox was just as fast as the best PCs when it came out (well the celly was a little gimp but consoles have less overhead). If it only had more ram, it would have been really special. The 1.0 motherboard had slots for 128MB total, but seems like late in development they cut it to 64.

I have seen people make 128MB SDRAM work on it, and also seen people make tualatins work too... dumb mods. :shakes:

[Soulburner]

Sure, but if the games are programmed to occupy 64MB of RAM, will they actually use the 128MB? This isn't like a Windows OS that is programmed to use any memory available.

[[cTx]Raptor22]

Sure, but if the games are programmed to occupy 64MB of RAM, will they actually use the 128MB? This isn't like a Windows OS that is programmed to use any memory available.

Yes some programs will, and besides the xbox tuns a tweaked NT5.0 :)

http://www.gamersreports.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=83 <--- RAM Mod

http://xbox.fuzzymuzzle.com/DreamX/cpuupgrade.htm <--- CPU Mod

[NickS]

Hey, im posting from my ps3 in bed right now :D

[[cTx]Raptor22]

Hey, im posting from my ps3 in bed right now :D

You can post from a ps3? Sick. I wish they came out with a browser on the 360.... :(

[JargonGR]

Raptor22;2816903']You can post from a ps3? Sick. I wish they came out with a browser on the 360.... :(

lol even the Wii has a browser too..

[NickS]

Raptor22;2816903']You can post from a ps3? Sick. I wish they came out with a browser on the 360.... :(

Full browser w/multiple widnows, fav. places, flash, java, etc.