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gandalf027
08-22-2003, 12:44 PM
Well, i think some eletrical component is broken at my prom.

I turn the prom on, and it buzzes .. like an eletrical buzz .. a bit loud. The chillcontrol gives the temperature .. and a few seconds later ir gives me and Err3 .. at the prom manual it says it can be a warm condenser (the condenser is cold) or power failure. I've managed to check what is the piece that is making the noise .. i've a link to a photo i took. Can it be that if i replace this component it will work ok again?

The prom was working like a dream .. it's moded to r404a.

click here (http://sapp.telepac.pt/gandalf027/dsc00719.jpg)

Thanks for any help .. beeing on air sucks :(


***link fixed by jbell***

TheDude
08-22-2003, 12:56 PM
gandalf027,

Your link is not working for me. :(

[SLC]Tachyon
08-22-2003, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by TheDude
gandalf027,

Your link is not working for me. :(

Cut and paste the URL into your browser, I can get the pic to load if I do that.

TheDude
08-22-2003, 01:18 PM
gandalf027,

Do you see that bent contact where the connector is missing? Is it supposed to be connected to anything?

gandalf027
08-22-2003, 01:29 PM
Nop .. it comes like that eeheh. I've checked with a friend .. it is the same as this one.

I've tested the prom, ignoring the error and the annoying beep, and it worked like normal .. it reached -55ยบ no problem .. so i think the problem is really with the rele (don't know how u say it in english :)

TheDude
08-22-2003, 01:36 PM
relay? Wait and see what Bowman has to say before you do anything...he will be in here later on.

gandalf027
08-22-2003, 01:38 PM
Probably that's it. I don0t realt know what it does exactly, don't know much about eletric stuff.

Thanks Dude :toast: , i'll wait a bit more, and wait for bowman's opinion.

TheDude
08-22-2003, 02:04 PM
If it is the relay that is the problem, you can probably buy one here:

http://oeiwcs.omron.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=527&prmenbr=316

;)

gandalf027
08-22-2003, 02:14 PM
Thanks m8 .. but i'm from portugal, so i just need the specs from this one and i'll buy it here. Let's hope it's only the relay.

bowman1964
08-22-2003, 03:36 PM
ok that is the latching relay from the unit.

if i am not mistaken it takes the 12v source from the power supply and latches the 220v (in your case)closed and starts the compressor.
now it could be bad...but i doubt it...

do me a favor...check the 12v reading with a meter at the molex.if it is low it will cause the relay to not latch all the way and buzz like crazy and also make the controller read errors.
please try that first..if the voltage is fine then replace the relay

gandalf027
08-22-2003, 03:50 PM
Thanks bowman.

I've checked the voltage of the psu i'm using to fire up the prom and it gives me a reading at 12.30~12.45, so i think that's not a problem.

So i can assume the relay is realy the problem .. i've touched it and it's vibrating like a mad dog when buzzing at the same time. Can this be the cause of everything? or something else can be the cause of this? I'm asking this, because the compressor seems to be working fine .. it goes down to -55 in a quicky.

Well .. i'm gona try and get a new relay tomorrow, and thanks again!

bowman1964
08-22-2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by gandalf027
Thanks bowman.

I've checked the voltage of the psu i'm using to fire up the prom and it gives me a reading at 12.30~12.45, so i think that's not a problem.

So i can assume the relay is realy the problem .. i've touched it and it's vibrating like a mad dog when buzzing at the same time. Can this be the cause of everything? or something else can be the cause of this? I'm asking this, because the compressor seems to be working fine .. it goes down to -55 in a quicky.

Well .. i'm gona try and get a new relay tomorrow, and thanks again!
well as long as it is getting a good 12v yep replace it.it does pull voltage off the controller it is possable it is making the control act flakey.


i will be out until sunday night so good luck

gandalf027
08-22-2003, 04:08 PM
Well, i've tried another thing .. without suplying any 12v via the molex (the prom won't start), i've conected the prom to the 220v outlet .. and guess what .. the relay starts to buzz .. so new relay is needed :D

TheDude
08-22-2003, 06:10 PM
Great news! Thanks for the confirmation Bowman. :toast:

gandalf027
08-25-2003, 09:25 AM
Well .. what can i say .. Thanks a lot bowman and thedude .. i've replaced the relay .. and VOILA!!! It's working awesomely again.

Thanks for the replys! :toast:

TheDude
08-25-2003, 11:30 AM
That's Great! You made my day....love to see successful posts like this because I know how good it feels! :D

Gary Lloyd
08-25-2003, 12:45 PM
Good call, Dude. :D

gandalf027
08-25-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by TheDude
That's Great! You made my day....love to see successful posts like this because I know how good it feels! :D

I was so damn nervous when i powered the prom .. what if it didn't work? eheheheh.

It's great to have help like this! Keep up the good work :toast:

TheDude
08-25-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Gary Lloyd
Good call, Dude. :D

High praise indeed coming from you Gary! But I can't take the credit...gandalf did it all by himself really. Sometimes it helps just to have someone cheer you on. :D

The_Loserkid
08-25-2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by TheDude
Sometimes it helps just to have someone cheer you on. :D

yeah, you should try to become head chearleader this year :)

TheDude
08-25-2003, 03:15 PM
Ok ....but I'm not gonna shave my legs! :eek:

JBELL
08-25-2003, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by TheDude
Ok ....but I'm not gonna shave my legs! :eek:


the thought of it is bad enough but that glare would kill!

The_Loserkid
08-26-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by TheDude
Ok ....but I'm not gonna shave my legs! :eek:

*digs up his old lawn mower*
let's start shaving gentlemen :D

Jef Klaxon
08-26-2003, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by The_Loserkid
*digs up his old lawn mower*
let's start shaving gentlemen :D look who's here :)

let's shave him first :banana:

The_Loserkid
08-26-2003, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Jef Klaxon
look who's here :)

let's shave him first :banana:

well, too bad we can't shave ur legs yet
still need begin growing leg hair don't u :)

Jef Klaxon
08-26-2003, 10:37 AM
mommyyyyy, loserkid is bad to meeee :am:

The_Loserkid
08-26-2003, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Jef Klaxon
mommyyyyy, loserkid is bad to meeee :am:

you've brought this on yourself man :)

Jef Klaxon
08-26-2003, 10:42 AM
whine whine whine :p:

WxChaser
08-26-2003, 10:44 AM
C'mon guys keep it out of the forums please - this is a place to impart knowledge or ask for help without being slammed. Thanks.

The_Loserkid
08-26-2003, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by WxChaser
C'mon guys keep it out of the forums please - this is a place to impart knowledge or ask for help without being slammed. Thanks.
soz i was just thinking the same thing

childish discussion closed :)