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h20 frag-monger
02-25-2008, 03:38 PM
How many people would buy these copper pin plates if i could order a bunch at wholesale? i was thinking $100 per plate, which is pretty good considering the price of copper and the cost savings in trying to machine tiny pins? This would be for the DIY guys who want to take these and come up with there own ideas...you could get at least 4 water blocks out of one of these plates...

the pin plates are 144x122x6.7mm with 3mm high pins that are less than 1mm in diameter, the actual pin field is 92x106mm (about 5000 pins)

http://www.mattreeves.com/copper/cu1.jpg

http://www.mattreeves.com/copper/cu3.jpg

NaeKuh
02-25-2008, 03:42 PM
ROFL

that would make one massive waterblock.

mmmm....

h20 frag-monger
02-25-2008, 03:44 PM
haha....yeah it would....i would hope ppl would be cutting them into at least 4's ....i'm really interested to see what types of ideas ppl come up with

Boogerlad
02-25-2008, 03:49 PM
isn't this the same baseplate from amulaire, the supposed d-tek fuzion manufactuer? http://www.amulaire.com/

n00b 0f l337
02-25-2008, 03:56 PM
Would be good for TEC chillers, coldplate with water, and other side can easily be air cooled.

evil-98
02-25-2008, 04:06 PM
isn't this the same baseplate from amulaire, the supposed d-tek fuzion manufactuer? http://www.amulaire.com/

exactly my thoughts

h20 frag-monger
02-25-2008, 04:09 PM
isn't this the same baseplate from amulaire, the supposed d-tek fuzion manufactuer? http://www.amulaire.com/

yes it is...I'm trying to get them to sell just there pin plates (they normally sell total solutions)

alexio
02-25-2008, 04:12 PM
I could use one or maybe two but pricing seems a little steep. Shoot me a PM if you know more.

Can't you get a better deal.....?

h20 frag-monger
02-25-2008, 04:22 PM
yeah im still talking to them about pricing, it will depend on quantity...

Xilikon
02-25-2008, 04:25 PM
Would be great to make 4 cpu block out of this plate with a custom made middle and top chamber in delrin.

Monkeywoman
02-25-2008, 04:31 PM
h20 frag-monger, thats one delicious avatar:yepp:

Blauhung
02-25-2008, 04:50 PM
If you get a good idea on pricing, I'd be up for hearing about it. I've been wanting to make my own TEC watter chiller for a while.

Would be good for TEC chillers, coldplate with water, and other side can easily be air cooled.

hehe

NaeKuh
02-25-2008, 04:51 PM
lol you know what that thing reminds me of?

when i went to see an accupunturist, he had this stepping thing on the floor. Something simular with lots of little pins and your suposed to step on it gentley so it pushs all the pressure points on your foot.

LoL... sorry for the OT, just had the wierd flash back.

NaeKuh
02-25-2008, 04:54 PM
Would be good for TEC chillers, coldplate with water, and other side can easily be air cooled.

nol you could only fit 4 tec's on that total. 2x2.

So im assuming you would have to weave the water back and forth?


Dude that base plate off the cold plate on a laser platform? :eek:

better yet, is that how big a 1kw tec is?
92x106mm i the pin section so the tec would have to be 90x90 or somthing of that size.. man thats ONE BIG TEC.
:rofl:

KaptCrunch
02-25-2008, 08:28 PM
gee just join 4 of them an call it MB block.

would be great for FC vid cards

starlon
02-25-2008, 08:41 PM
Damn that's huge. What does it weigh?

perfection
02-25-2008, 09:34 PM
I'd be interested in two 50mm square peices if I possible
$100 is quite expensive for the whole thing, but again, its just me, I'm far from being rich

NaeKuh
02-25-2008, 09:58 PM
How thin's the base?

Edit: nm. 6.7mm Can i ask what state your located in?

I might be interested in buying that slab for you to mail out to iandh. He's drawing up some new blocks for my 780i.

Would make some mean ass mosfet and chipset blocks, dontcha think? :P

mcoffey
02-25-2008, 10:19 PM
@ 100.00 USD, not worth it IMO. 30-40 maybe, but not worth more than that as is. Not like there's a lot I can do with it without adding a bunch of other work to it, along with the added cost.

Just my thoughts,

andyc

filthysanchez
02-26-2008, 12:36 AM
100 dollars seems reasonable for the whole plate, seeing the work that has to go into it, and all the manufacturers expenses.

How much does one weigh?

Canadmos
02-26-2008, 06:12 AM
h20 frag-monger, thats one delicious avatar:yepp:

+1 :toast2:

h20 frag-monger
02-26-2008, 10:20 AM
1 pound 6 ozs

100 dollars seems reasonable for the whole plate, seeing the work that has to go into it, and all the manufacturers expenses.

How much does one weigh?

h20 frag-monger
02-26-2008, 10:26 AM
i think the price is more than reasonable if you want a piece of copper with a high density pin pattern.....if you were to try to machine or crosscut pins of this density the price would be about 10x...

these same pin plates were developed to cool 5000 watt high power switching electronics used in power conversion, electric motor drives ect...




@ 100.00 USD, not worth it IMO. 30-40 maybe, but not worth more than that as is. Not like there's a lot I can do with it without adding a bunch of other work to it, along with the added cost.

Just my thoughts,

andyc

h20 frag-monger
02-26-2008, 10:27 AM
the pins are 3mm and the base they are on is about 3.7 ....so total height is 6.7....


How thin's the base?

Edit: nm. 6.7mm Can i ask what state your located in?

I might be interested in buying that slab for you to mail out to iandh. He's drawing up some new blocks for my 780i.

Would make some mean ass mosfet and chipset blocks, dontcha think? :P

Tony
02-26-2008, 05:35 PM
http://www.amulaire.com/products/products.asp#Cold_Plates


Thats who makes em boys ;) I think :shrug:

they make blocks for a lot of people you all know and love ;)

jimmyz
02-26-2008, 05:53 PM
not to bust your chops buddy but you cannot sell things in the general forums. you should read the rules before posting. you need to have access to the for sale forums to sell anything here.

That said they do look like nice plates to make waterblocks from.

Pub_Randy**
02-26-2008, 06:08 PM
not to bust your chops buddy but you cannot sell things in the general forums. you should read the rules before posting. you need to have access to the for sale forums to sell anything here.

That said they do look like nice plates to make waterblocks from.

How many people would buy these copper pin plates if i could order a bunch at wholesale?

nuff said. Hope you can strike a deal with the h20 frag-monger, would be interesting to see what people can come up with, some full cover customer GPU blocks would be very interesting, or a few more offerings for 780i chipsets :)

:up:

h20 frag-monger
02-26-2008, 06:09 PM
sorry, i just wanted to get an idea if this was something i should peruse with amulaire or not....kinda like a group buy since they only sell in quantity....i think it would be cool to see what ppl come up with for water block ideas, maybe set up some kinda of contest?

Pedalmonkey
02-26-2008, 06:43 PM
that would be sweet, have a buy in, build a block, or block set, then who ever wins each section, CPU block, GPU block, Chipset blocks, gets to have their blocks produced by a company like D-tek or EK or someone like that. Just an idea if we can get a company behind it. maybe the companies would be willing to pay the producer royalty fees as well. :p

systemviper
02-26-2008, 06:47 PM
I would use it to make a in-line water chiller!

jimmyz
02-26-2008, 06:55 PM
nuff said. Hope you can strike a deal with the h20 frag-monger, would be interesting to see what people can come up with, some full cover customer GPU blocks would be very interesting, or a few more offerings for 780i chipsets :)

:up:

convenient how you stopped short of the $100 dollar part. like I said read the forum rules..... rule 5 in case you get tired of reading. the problem isn't the thread or the idea but it needs to be posted in the for sale forums not in the general forum areas. like it or not there are rules, and they are here for a reason.

Waterlogged
02-27-2008, 12:41 AM
not to bust your chops buddy but you cannot sell things in the general forums. you should read the rules before posting. you need to have access to the for sale forums to sell anything here.

That said they do look like nice plates to make waterblocks from.

I don't take it as a selling post, it reads more like a "who's interested in a group buy" to me.


As far as the price goes, you have to remember that you can get something like 4 blocks out of that one piece, so $25/block raw isn't too horrendous. Yes you still have a bit of work to do to get it usable but still, it's really not all that much.


h20, what's the Manu process on those, forged or cast?

h20 frag-monger
02-27-2008, 10:41 AM
they are not cast or forged......i found this online... http://www.freshnews.com/news/computers-internet/article_32148.html

" Amulaire's highly flexible metal injection molding processes enable the company to make cold plates with features such as the following:

- - Fins that go in multiple directions on a single cold plate

- - Fins at any angle, curved or in any pattern required

- - More pin fins (to increase the surface area of the cold plate and enhance thermal performance)

- - Microchannels -- with fins as small as 0.15mm wide and 0.7mm high, with 0.15mm spacing -- for very precise liquid cooling solutions"

Waterlogged
02-27-2008, 11:24 AM
they are not cast or forged......i found this online... http://www.freshnews.com/news/computers-internet/article_32148.html

" Amulaire's highly flexible metal injection molding processes enable the company to make cold plates with features such as the following:

- - Fins that go in multiple directions on a single cold plate

- - Fins at any angle, curved or in any pattern required

- - More pin fins (to increase the surface area of the cold plate and enhance thermal performance)

- - Microchannels -- with fins as small as 0.15mm wide and 0.7mm high, with 0.15mm spacing -- for very precise liquid cooling solutions"

Hmm, interesting. It seems they are using injection molding which is actually a hybrid of forging and casting. It's better than casting but not quite as good as forging.

systemviper
02-27-2008, 01:30 PM
I don't take it as a selling post, it reads more like a "who's interested in a group buy" to me.


As far as the price goes, you have to remember that you can get something like 4 blocks out of that one piece, so $25/block raw isn't too horrendous. Yes you still have a bit of work to do to get it usable but still, it's really not all that much.




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