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#su
02-24-2008, 08:25 PM
okay, so this is the first time i've tried to use a reservior. i decided to go with the swiftech microres because it was cheap. figures. the brackets it comes with don't fit the thing in any way shape or form. where i want to mount it i need the brackets or something like it. i need to mount on the inside of the case, on the back, next to the pci slots. any suggestions or other solutions? i'm not very creative which is why i need some help with finding a solution here. :p:

starlon
02-24-2008, 08:28 PM
I can tell you this, the experts around here are going to want pics :)

disruptfam
02-24-2008, 08:29 PM
pics


edit: lol beat me to it

Pedalmonkey
02-24-2008, 08:30 PM
PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS!! lol, i think you get the picture (no pun intended) now. just we cant do anything for u without them.

#su
02-24-2008, 09:03 PM
i wasn't really sure what to take a picture of.... so i took a pic of where i wanted the res to be. i guess i could use zip ties. but that really wasn't what i was going for.

KaptCrunch
02-24-2008, 09:13 PM
use an old pci slot cover and bend 90's in a U shape that fits the rez an drill holes for mounting on back of case where your rez in pic

or use zip ties an thread to hold against back of case holes

C'DaleRider
02-24-2008, 11:42 PM
Actually, DaptCrunch, the MicroRes comes with a pair of U-brackets just like you pictured.....although they only have one hole in the center of the flat part of the "U" instead of the two you picture. It also comes with an L-bracket.

I don't know why you, #su, cannot get the U-brackets to fit the res and mount where you want, unless the space available is too tight to allow for the brackets around the mount tabs on the rear of the reservoir along with the screws.

Go to this page at Petra's and look at the mounting hardware included w/the res and tell me why the U-brackets won't work here. (http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmchire.html)

KaptCrunch
02-25-2008, 03:50 AM
i see said the blind man, good find C'DaleRider great for people without tools to make things. #su can drill case an use countersunk screws to mount res

septim
02-25-2008, 04:11 AM
the first batch mcres i got had no brackets yet, had to improvise a little...

i used a paper clip to hang said res somewhere inside my case...

#su
02-25-2008, 07:55 AM
the U brackets that come with it don't fit. the res just sits there loose and moves all over the place. the directions say to use the rubber O rings but its too tight. i'd have to bend the U bracket to get it to fit, then the screw doesn't reach the other side. stupid res. i should just go back to using a T line.

brammers
02-25-2008, 10:00 AM
Just had a play with my "spare" MCRES Micro.

I see what you mean. One of the silver washers fits - snugly, but fits without too much "bending" - i.e. just "push it" until it fits.

I've also tried a 0.5mm thick anti-vibration rubber washer (designed for HDDs) bought from Maplins in the UK. This also works, again it's tight but it fits if you "wiggle it" enough.

Anyways, there's two options I can come up with right now.

Edit: I used the long bracket rotated 90 degrees (but still vertical) and hung the res from the case top. Then you can just screw in to it and use the rubber washers. No problems.

Picture of bracket without res in place (top right above fan controller):
http://www.bramleys.org/radbox/small/CIMG1175.JPG

Res mounted (top right):
http://www.bramleys.org/radbox/small/CIMG1181.JPG

HTH
J

karbonkid
02-25-2008, 01:45 PM
Looking at Swiftech's brackets made me think of Meccano - that might work ;)

aspire.comptech
02-25-2008, 01:48 PM
mechano, those were the days :D

evil-98
02-25-2008, 01:48 PM
velcro? 3M mount tape?

jonny_ftm
02-26-2008, 07:52 AM
the U brackets that come with it don't fit. the res just sits there loose and moves all over the place. the directions say to use the rubber O rings but its too tight. i'd have to bend the U bracket to get it to fit, then the screw doesn't reach the other side. stupid res. i should just go back to using a T line.

You're not alone, I can't understand how the :banana: they did build the brackets. Impossible to fit. I finally opted for a lateral fixation. Using less thicker O-rings is an alternative

#su
02-26-2008, 09:10 AM
ok... so i've tried all the suggestions and really haven't been able to get it how i want. i tried with the zip ties and it doesn't look that bad. and it was easy to position it where i wanted with the zip ties. unfortunately every time i need to add/remove a pci device i would need to cut the zip ties.

Conumdrum
02-26-2008, 08:03 PM
Zips are cheap. And once done how often will ya have to replace a PCI device?

Or you could find a machine shop at $50 an hour for design and etc etc.... Your choice.

You'd be amazed by walking through a good hardware store lookin at all the fittings etc, or even the garage junk box what you can come up with.......

Velcro FTW! Try it! evils suggestion.........

Pedalmonkey
02-26-2008, 08:16 PM
velcro would do the trick. easily removable and strong. plus u can put in ANYWHERE!!

Isriam
02-26-2008, 08:50 PM
i bent mine and didn't use o-rings and it worked great exactly where you have yours :)

jonny_ftm
02-27-2008, 12:34 AM
It's crazy though how swiftech conceived their mcres

Waterlogged
02-27-2008, 12:59 AM
I put a micro in that exact same place on a CM Centurion 5 with the enclosed U brackets. I had the same problem so I just ignored Swiftech's instructions and used them the way they work, screw, washer and nut. It takes a little tightening but, it will finally clamp onto the res.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2641/img0016bh1.jpg

septim
02-27-2008, 04:51 AM
put some creativity or common sense, play around with it, and you might even come up with a better solution, like they said velcro is easiest, zip tie cheapest, then going through hardware store or spare parts box and DIY for experience FTW...

#su
02-27-2008, 06:22 AM
well, i was trying to figure out how to use the velcro, but couldn't really find any room for it as the back of the res isn't flat, and although it's a huge case, it's space is only optimized for a single rad and bay res. i'm currently using the zip ties, i'm going to try and make brackets that work better, or have someone make them.

does it matter which port i use for the inlet? i used the top for the inlet because i had the bottom hooked up as inlet but the water wouldn't cycle through the system. it just sat there motionless. so i switched it to the top port and the water is flowing but the water in the res is rough/bubbly and building condensation.

you know... i never had any issues with a T line. :rolleyes:
i had to use a res cause i thought it would look good :p:

Xilikon
02-27-2008, 07:24 AM
You must use the upper side hole as inlet and the lower one for output. It's normal to see bubbles and condensation at first so just top it off when the water level get lower and forget about it.

#su
02-27-2008, 09:46 AM
i was just looking at waterlogged's pic, and it looks like he is using the bottom as the inlet?

unless the top of that pump is the inlet for the pump?

InfamousChu
02-27-2008, 10:05 AM
i was just looking at waterlogged's pic, and it looks like he is using the bottom as the inlet?

unless the top of that pump is the inlet for the pump?

Yes the top is the inlet for the pump

iadstudio
02-27-2008, 10:10 AM
i wasn't really sure what to take a picture of.... so i took a pic of where i wanted the res to be. i guess i could use zip ties. but that really wasn't what i was going for.

The best fits are almost ALWAY not the obvious choice. I think that fit would work, but you might need a home depot trip. Also, performance-pcs sells the mounting brackets for that res.

#su
02-27-2008, 05:57 PM
first of all.... i found a need for to remove my res for a new pci device already... :rolleyes:

i've been using my DFI Infinity 965s while this was in pieces, and aparently the DFI's onboard sound is 1000x better than the asus. so i need a sound card now. lol :D

thought you might like to see it all put together,,, yea, the first fan on the rad... its lights died

iadstudio
02-27-2008, 07:05 PM
I suggest you get this:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/ude360pubrfl.html

and switch your pump position and res position. Also, it is advisable to have your res outlet feeding your pump.

jonny_ftm
02-29-2008, 12:17 AM
i was just looking at waterlogged's pic, and it looks like he is using the bottom as the inlet?

unless the top of that pump is the inlet for the pump?

Reservoir can't be after the pump, so top barb of his pump is the inlet

ups, sorry, was already answered, missed it

jonny_ftm
02-29-2008, 12:21 AM
first of all.... i found a need for to remove my res for a new pci device already... :rolleyes:

i've been using my DFI Infinity 965s while this was in pieces, and aparently the DFI's onboard sound is 1000x better than the asus. so i need a sound card now. lol :D

thought you might like to see it all put together,,, yea, the first fan on the rad... its lights died

My bad, what kind of setup is this? A reservoir feeding the NB instead of the pump :rofl:
Seriously, unless you want to kill your pump slowly, change your loop parts disposition. The res is meant to feed the pump. You'll get a real flow improvement if you do it, and especially, your pump won't die soon

Otherwise, your case/waterloop integration is a very clean job, congrats :up:

#su
02-29-2008, 04:21 AM
well, i didn't want the cpu outlet going to the nb inlet... and i didn't want to use the rad as a split between the cpu and nb since that would make the rad the last node in the loop in relation to the cpu.

i guess my only other option is to go:

pumpo > radi > rado > cpui > cpuo > nbi > nbo > resi > reso > pumpi

my issue there, is that will create a mess of hoses

i could add a 120.1 rad above the res...