Recommend: which PSU - 1000W and silent? [Archive]

MMhardKy

01-30-2008, 03:09 PM

Hi,

I would really like the PSU for my next system to be as quiet as possible.
The specs will be:

C2D E8400
Striker II Formula, 4GB
1x Samsung 750GB
1x WD Raptor 150GB
3x 8800GTX MSI-OC
1x DVD-RW
Creative Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro
Probably 2x water cooling pumps

I think 1000W will be more than enough as I don't plan any massive OC, only have 2 HDD (main storage is in my server) and 1 optical drive. The E8400 will be replaced by Q9450 later.

I have read many reviews, but they are mostly focused on the performance and they don't give any idea about the acoustics.

The one thing that got me curious was the Tacens Supero Smart 1000W PSU. I have only found some reviews in spanish where I don't understand a word. The companyies main goal seems to be silent hardware, but I don't know exactly how quiet this PSU will be, if it's not only marketing talk.

The other candide was the Silverstone Strider 1000W, but the reviews are different. One says, it is very quiet, in an other I have read that the noise of the motor of the fan is subjectively very loud...

I want to have the watercooling as quiet as possible (probably a huge external radiotor with 12cm fans) and I don't want to get everything ruined by a loud PSU. That is what happened to me last time with the BeQuiet Dark Power Pro 600 (Very loud!!)

Thanks!

MMhardKy

02-01-2008, 04:58 AM

No suggestions? Anyone?

jonnyGURU

02-01-2008, 06:56 AM

MMhardKy

02-01-2008, 03:03 PM

I think the whole "Tacens Supero" thing threw everyone. The reason all of the reviews are in Spanish is because the unit is typically only sold in Spanish speaking countries. AFAIK, Tacen itself is a Spanish company.

I have edit the thread title then. They are selling the Tacens unit in germany for 260 euro. I am not sure about it, I need some reviews.

I need some general recommendations for 1kw hardware and their acoustics. I was also thinking of 2x 600w silent PSUs, like Seasonic or something like that, but I am afraid of problems with dual PSUs... I am kind off hopeless with this..

Oklahoma Wolf

02-02-2008, 05:39 AM

As I mentioned elsewhere, the Tacens is an Epsilon. I'd pass.

http://www.hard-h2o.com/reviewimg/fuentes/tacens-supero-1000/tacens-supero-1000-14

tiro_uspsss

02-02-2008, 06:23 AM

get Jonnyguru to confirm, but i think the Enermax 1000W or the Ultra X3s arent too bad (?)

Anemone

02-02-2008, 07:13 AM

Here now: Thermaltake Toughpower 1000w (CWT based)
Ultra X3 (also CWT)

Future (soon): Corsair 1000w (also possibly CWT based)

$.02

AriciU

02-10-2008, 01:21 PM

For 3SLI i'd get the Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W. From what i've read about it it's currently one of the best, if not the best, very efficient and quiet also.

karl_eller

02-11-2008, 01:45 AM

I'd also suggest a TT 1000watt or 1200 watt ToughPower. They've got a ridiculous amount of amperage to the GPUs, as well as providing enough juice to run everything else. Also, since you're running Tri-SLI, they've got 6 PCIe power cables (3 8-pin (with adapters) and 3 6-pin), where as quite a few other 1k watt units only have 4.

Eller

Disaster_Master

02-11-2008, 02:19 AM

madfaze

02-11-2008, 02:22 AM

No suggestions? Anyone?

how about the antec 1000w? :)

karl_eller

02-11-2008, 02:32 AM

I am looking for an 1000W ore more psu, but i don't care about the silent part.
I want a psu that can handle a lot of load.

Is the TT 1500w a good one? its price/W is quite good but i don't know how it performs i like the PC&P psu's but they cost a lot of $$$.
What are you needing a 1.5kWatt PSU for? The only thing you'd need even a 1kWatt PSU for is if you're running Tri-SLI or two 3870 X2's or something like that, with an OCed quad. In which case a TT 1000 or 1200 watt would handle it fine.

Eller

XRTweaked

02-11-2008, 02:38 AM

karl_eller

02-11-2008, 02:47 AM

Honestly, I've never heard anything but good reports about SilverStone, especially their Decathlon and Olympia series.

Eller

lowbid

02-11-2008, 03:46 AM

I had a 650 silverstone go bad after a month.I just stick to there cases now but i have heard goog things about there psu to.And it took 8 weeks to rma it.

Omastar

02-11-2008, 03:58 AM

I would have to say to stay away from the Silverstone. I bought one once and as soon as I hit the power button it exploded. Luckily it didn't fry anything except itself, and the store I bought it from took it back. When I mentioned it to some friends later on, they said that Silverstone was famous for low quality. You make up your own mind, but there's my two cents. :)

So you got a defective unit and proceed to trash the whole brand? :up: And then you take what your doofus friends claim about Silverstone as truth? :up:

But if I may be serious for a moment, the Enermax Galaxy DXX 1kWs are supposed to be among the quieter and more efficient 1kW PSUs. But were I you, I'd check jonnyguru.com and read some reviews before I made a decision.

lukashill

02-11-2008, 04:26 AM

I would recommend Coolermaster Real Power Pro M1000 1000w Modular PSU.
I have the 850W model and I'm very happy with it. It's dead silent at full load.

adamsleath

02-11-2008, 05:02 AM

Coolermaster Real Power Pro M1000 1000w Modular PSU.
^^funny, i was just reading about that one...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/1000w-psu-roundup_4.html
edit: no i havent seen a modular one...

MMhardKy

02-11-2008, 05:02 AM

The Coolermaster Real Power 1000W is a strong candidate. It had a great review at jonnnyguru.com, although it was not the modular version. I really hope it has the same fan and innards.

Although Thermaltake 1000W sounds also good. If only I could buy both of them and return the louder one... Unfortunately not possible here (I don't want to order online).

Also, I am reconsidering the whole 3-Sli thing. Early this year I was sure to get 3 cards, but now as the new cards are getting near, I think I will buy just 1 additional 8800GTX and see what the 9xxx cards can deliver over 8xxx 3-SLI (I think not much...). Then I might buy a third card and wait for GT200, or sell my 2 8800GTXs and go with 2x 9800GTX.

adamsleath

02-11-2008, 05:26 AM

gt200 rumoured to be 250W...ouch...those whacky nvidia dudes!

XRTweaked

02-11-2008, 05:40 PM

So you got a defective unit and proceed to trash the whole brand? :up: And then you take what your doofus friends claim about Silverstone as truth? :up:

But if I may be serious for a moment, the Enermax Galaxy DXX 1kWs are supposed to be among the quieter and more efficient 1kW PSUs. But were I you, I'd check jonnyguru.com and read some reviews before I made a decision.

My what you call "doofus friends" are actually quite a few reputable friends in the industry, and yes I choose to develop first impressions based on first experiences, just like most all other human beings. As stated in my first post, take my suggestions for what they worth and make up your own mind, In other words don't take just one persons experience as the whole truth and nothing but the truth, but to take the opinions of a collaborative and see which products shine through their eyes.

But hey, if you are so inclined as to want to label people based on your opinions, so be it. But you might want to think your thoughts through a little more in the future before spouting off at the keyboard. A wise man once told me, " it better to keep your mouth shut and let others think you might be a moron than to open it and remove all doubt" :shrug:

karl_eller

02-11-2008, 05:56 PM

My what you call "doofus friends" are actually quite a few reputable friends in the industry, and yes I choose to develop first impressions based on first experiences, just like most all other human beings. As stated in my first post, take my suggestions for what they worth and make up your own mind, In other words don't take just one persons experience as the whole truth and nothing but the truth, but to take the opinions of a collaborative and see which products shine through their eyes.

But hey, if you are so inclined as to want to label people based on your opinions, so be it. But you might want to think your thoughts through a little more in the future before spouting off at the keyboard. A wise man once told me, " it better to keep your mouth shut and let others think you might be a moron than to open it and remove all doubt" :shrug:
Except if your friends are knocking SilverStone PSUs, I'd question just how "reputable" they are. I haven't heard anything about their older series of PSUs, but I've only ever heard good things about the SS Decathlon and Olympia series PSUs. They've got a reputation for being excellent, high quality and long lasting PSUs. In fact the only thing I've heard against some DA PSUs is that the earlier revisions have a bit of a whine when fully loaded. Aside from that, everyone I know who owns one loves them.

Eller

Virous

02-12-2008, 05:11 AM

Well ventilated. Being in a stacker 832. I bought a TT Toughpower 1200w. I dont even know its running. And you will have juice left to power TrIsLi. im going to be powering 2x 3870X2s soon. Glad i bought a psu that supports 8pin power conectors.

jonnyGURU

02-12-2008, 05:28 AM

My what you call "doofus friends" are actually quite a few reputable friends in the industry, and yes I choose to develop first impressions based on first experiences, just like most all other human beings. As stated in my first post, take my suggestions for what they worth and make up your own mind, In other words don't take just one persons experience as the whole truth and nothing but the truth, but to take the opinions of a collaborative and see which products shine through their eyes.

But hey, if you are so inclined as to want to label people based on your opinions, so be it. But you might want to think your thoughts through a little more in the future before spouting off at the keyboard. A wise man once told me, " it better to keep your mouth shut and let others think you might be a moron than to open it and remove all doubt" :shrug:

But the fact of the matter is, SilverStone is not "famous for poor quality" when it comes to power supplies. With low end units made by Enhance (not poor quality) and now FSP (not my favorite, but not poor quality), high end units made by Etasis and SevenTeam (neither are certainly not poor quality) and middle range units made by Impervio, one of the few PSU factories actually in Taiwan as opposed to mainland China like 99% of the others, saying something like SilverStone is "famous for poor quality" is pretty ignorant.

adamsleath

02-12-2008, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by speedfreak86
I will be in the market for a 1000-1200W MODULAR psu in the next month or so. Based on current knowledge, could you give a recommendation

Oklahoma Wolf
[PSU Expert]:

Yeah - Thermaltake Toughpower 1kW, 1.2kW, or 1.5kW.
...so says 'the wolf'^^
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2679816

http://www.electronicsshowplace.com/thermaltake-w0133ru-toughpower-1200w-modular-power-supply-with-apfc-eps-14cm-fan-167370.html?network=pricegrabber

speedfreak86

02-12-2008, 06:32 AM

I took the advice. Although I don't have it up and running yet, I have tested it and the 1.2Kw TT I bought seems fairly silent.

jetjaguar

02-12-2008, 07:20 AM

I took the advice. Although I don't have it up and running yet, I have tested it and the 1.2Kw TT I bought seems fairly silent.

how do u like it ? im thinking about picking up either a 1000 or 1200w toughpower modular to replace my loud as hell silverstone op1000

i might run tri sli / sli down the road .. would 1000 be enough or should i spend 30 dollars more and get the 1200 ?

STEvil

02-12-2008, 07:43 AM

speedfreak86

02-12-2008, 08:30 AM

From my experience it seems very silent. Of course I just used it when I was trying to get a DOA board to post. It wasn't working in the heat or under any hard loads, so I can't say anything for its hot loaded performance. I'll hopefully be checking on that soon. FYI, I got mine from a member on this board for 250 bucks...

jetjaguar

02-12-2008, 08:56 AM

I'd get the 1200 if its only $30 more.

How come nobody mentioned the Coolermaster 1250? or OCZ ProXtreme 1000w?

Those were my top pics but cant get them around here so I had to suffice with the Antec 1000w... plus it was on sale at $222.

on jonnyguru.com there is a review linked for the proxtreme 1000w and it had thermal issues due to the small size

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/491/

MMhardKy

02-12-2008, 09:14 AM

So what now in term of quietness: Thermaltake Toughpower 1000 or Cooler Master Real Power Pro 1000 modular? Any personal experience with both of them?

jetjaguar

02-12-2008, 09:22 AM

no experience with either one for me .. but i think im gonna pick up the 1200w tt
just to cover myself if i do go quadfire or 3way sli

Oklahoma Wolf

02-12-2008, 02:35 PM

How come nobody mentioned the Coolermaster 1250? or OCZ ProXtreme Leaf Blower?

Fixed :p:

The ProX is one of the loudest units on the market.

STEvil

02-12-2008, 07:35 PM

Huh, wonder what review it was I read that had it doing a bit better.. oh well.

[Spectre]

02-13-2008, 11:19 AM

on jonnyguru.com there is a review linked for the proxtreme 1000w and it had thermal issues due to the small size

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/491/

What thermal issue is that exactly?

Mine hit 68c as well but after having a ProXStream running on of my 4U servers for almost 8 months now there have been no "thermal" issues.

Fixed :p:

The ProX is one of the loudest units on the market.

That is true though the Turbo-Cool's still easily edge it out.

Psycho_eddie

02-17-2008, 02:06 PM

I find it funny someone asks for advice and people give aid without ticking all the box's so to speak.

Thermaltake PSU's are not quiet

1000W and quiet? Zalman 1000-HP

jetjaguar

02-17-2008, 04:21 PM

i got my tt 1200w .. is it ok to have it upside down ? like with the fan on the top ?

Oklahoma Wolf

02-17-2008, 05:42 PM

i got my tt 1200w .. is it ok to have it upside down ? like with the fan on the top ?

As long as the fan isn't blocked it's fine.

[Spectre]

02-18-2008, 07:07 AM

I find it funny someone asks for advice and people give aid without ticking all the box's so to speak.

Thermaltake PSU's are not quiet

Really? That is fascinating since all 4 units I have and have tested fore reviews are extremely quiet.

karl_eller

02-18-2008, 12:17 PM

Yeah, I haven't tried the TT 1kWatt unit yet (plan on getting that when I go for a 3870 X2 or R700 Crossfire), but my TT TP 750 watt is pretty quiet most of the time (makes a bit of noise when my 3.5Ghz quad + 8800GTX are loaded up, but I'd make some noise if I was generating that much power too).

Eller

jetjaguar

02-19-2008, 08:18 AM

I find it funny someone asks for advice and people give aid without ticking all the box's so to speak.

Thermaltake PSU's are not quiet

1000W and quiet? Zalman 1000-HP

my tt 1200w is pretty quiet .. but then again i have a bunch of fans in my case and it is for sure quieter than my ss op1000

jonnyGURU

02-19-2008, 09:30 AM

;2779508']Really? That is fascinating since all 4 units I have and have tested fore reviews are extremely quiet.

Maybe his fan's busted and he doesn't know it. :shrug:

Psycho_eddie

02-22-2008, 04:17 AM

Okay perhaps slightly shortsited response as was the slightly smaller/different fan on my old 850W Toughpower

1000/1200/1500 Watt versions uses new fan - TT-1425B, made by Nice Full (Yate Loon) Electronics Ltd. For lower noise production..

To add confusion lets put Coolermaster Realpower 1000W into the mix, seems good PSU?

From ebuyer UK

CoolerMster 1000W - £135
Thermaltake 1000W - £150
Thermaltake 1200W - £175

Is the Thermaltake 1000W worth the £15 extra over the 1000W version from Coolermaster?

And do i really need spend further £25 for 1200W

Anemone

02-23-2008, 08:15 AM

It's taking like a year for the HX1000 to come out... /sigh

Anavel0

02-23-2008, 11:45 AM

MMhardKy

02-27-2008, 03:23 PM

Uh. . . couldn't this whole thread be solved by reading the recommended PSU sticky at the top of the page?

And I recommend the Silverstone ST1000, it's dead quiet. You can't hear it over any of the 120mm fans in my V1000.

Hm.. and I have heard claims that ST1000 is actualy loud -> fan motor makes strange noises. What some consider quite, I consider as too load, that's my problem:(

I really need to order the PSU asap and still have not decided which one to buy.

As I said, silence is the TOP priority for me - I am using my PC for mixing and mastering music, and for certain reasons I need to have the PC in the room where I am working at and I also want to use it for gaming (that is why I want it to handle 3sli). It actualy is not a big issue if the fan speeds up during excessive load (means during games), but I need it to be quiet when I while using Steinberg Nuendo -> CPU load cca. 70-80%.

When I sum it up, you guys have recommended:

Cooler Master Real Power Pro 1000 or Thermaltake 1000
These are supposed to be the most silent 1kw PSU's on the market right now. Right?

Could maybe guys like Jcool and jonnyGURU say they recommendations for one last time? It really means a lot to me, as I will not be able to return the PSU after I buy it - its not as simple here as in US. Thanks!

P.S.: If necessery, I would maybe try to swap the fan, but I am afraid as I have never done this before!

jcool

02-27-2008, 03:49 PM

Could maybe guys like Jcool and jonnyGURU say they recommendations for one last time? It really means a lot to me, as I will not be able to return the PSU after I buy it - its not as simple here as in US. Thanks!

I can't remember seeing this thread but since I'm asked so nicely, here we go...

I have edit the thread title then. They are selling the Tacens unit in germany for 260 euro. I am not sure about it, I need some reviews.

I need some general recommendations for 1kw hardware and their acoustics. I was also thinking of 2x 600w silent PSUs, like Seasonic or something like that, but I am afraid of problems with dual PSUs... I am kind off hopeless with this..

Just do it. I have no qualms selling commercial systems outfitted with dual PSUs, as a matter of fact I built one Triple SLI rig with a quad and three Ultras using two forton epsilon 600. I have also successfully built rigs with dual Corsair HX520 and various other brands, it works fine. You just have to pay attention to the 2nd PSU (the one that is not powering the mobo), it needs to get something other than 12V as well (so don't just feed 2 of the cards off it but also peripherals like HDDs and stuff).

You won't find a quiet 1KW PSU, might be able to mod it but I wouldn't trust a modded PSU to handle 600-700W which is what you're looking at (I was at ~800 with the two Epsilon 600).

Here (http://www.ichbinleise.de/Gamer-PC/ichbinleise-PC-LC90-Liquid-Monster-PC-wassergekuehlt::3125.html) you can see some pics from a system my firm builds for ichbinleise, using dual PSUs. Even though it's going to be updated soon you'll get the idea.

Oh yeah, one last thing. A triple-SLI setup with 3 cards will be anything but quiet, unless you spend a LOT of money for a decent wc setup to cool at least the mobo and cards, you won't be able to have a quiet system otherwise.

[Spectre]

02-27-2008, 03:51 PM

You just have to pay attention to the 2nd PSU (the one that is not powering the mobo), it needs to get something other than 12V as well (so don't just feed 2 of the cards off it but also peripherals like HDDs and stuff).

Well most do...but some don't:

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ2NywxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

jcool

02-27-2008, 03:54 PM

I have found that it's a good way to make sure the PSUs will work ok. If they don't need it, great, but the extra 10W for peripherals won't hurt :)

MMhardKy

02-28-2008, 07:48 AM

Oh! :( But I have decided to put a triple (GPUs) + dual radiator (CPU, MB) in a TJ07 case, that will only leave room for 1 PSU... That would mean I have to rethink my whole cooling solution... which I would rather not... Well maybe I will just go for only dual SLI, that would mean a 700W PSU would do. That means browsing the forum once again for the most quiet 700W PSU (I heard Seasonic M is good).

I think I will try to make a deal with retail store to first buy a 1000W PSU and then, if its unbearable, to exchange it for a 700W.

Anyway, which one would you buy if it had to be a (if possible silent) 1Kw unit?

TT 1000 (260 eur) or Cooler Master 1000 (192 eur)? I can't make up my mind between those two.

jcool

02-28-2008, 07:57 AM

I really don't know, sorry. I'm using two 600-700W units, both loaded with 400W max, which allows me to swap the fans for slow-spinning 1000rpm models.
You can cool all your stuff though using two PSUs... two duals bottom for GFX cards + one dual top for CPU and mobo. You have to use a Black Ice GT stealth (only 30mm height) as top rad and slightly mod the mounting but it works, that's what we do.
Check it out here (http://www.highend-computer.de/epages/61252479.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61252479/Products/SYS022/SubProducts/SYS022-0001) ;)