Nvidia 9800GX2, waste of money

[koc]

Again we see nVidia taking their 2 of their flagship GPU's, shrinking them, and whacking them together on a single board at a nice heavy price. Is it really worth it?

At the moment, Crysis will not run smooth on any hardware currently available. I know people will claim it does, but we all know that it is a load of BS. EVERY single benchmark (real world benchmark too, not synthetic) shows that with the very latest and best Quad Core CPU, and 2 (sometimes even 3) 8800 GTX Ultras, Crysis will bring the system to its knees never rendering more than avg 50 or so frames a second. So will 2 8800GTX's on one board be any different?????

What we need, is, a COMPLETELY NEW architecture. We don't need another repeat of the 7950GX2 a few years ago, we dont need two cards (which are now getting old) fused together. we need a NEW CARD.

I know nVidia would be working on a new card, but them releasing the 9800GX2 just annoys me, because anyone who buys it would just be wasting their money while nvidia makes big $. It WILL cost a fortune, and it won't even be a next generation card.

Anyway, the point I want to get across to anyone out there thinking of buying one, is, don't buy it. Crysis is the new benchmark in gaming, and as new games come out and the standard gets higher, your going to be stuck with a card that cannot run the games truly smooth, and you'll be looking at your pocket wishing you didnt fork out the $1000.

Wait untill nVidia releases their upcoming 'true next generation' 9000 series (not the mid range 9600GT, and the stupid 9800GX2) and see how they fair with Crysis, Call of Juraz, Lost Planet etc.

An interesting discussion :)

http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic97075.html

[96redformula7]

I might have to agree with this conclusion here. All games can be pretty much maxed out right now with the exception of Crysis, and it doesn't seem playable at high resolutions with all the bell and whistles on with any setup.

I am wondering what Nvidia has been doing since they came out with the 8800GTX.

[SamHughe]

Sorry but, how this is news? Some post made by some guy in some forum so why should we care?

[Zytek_Fan]

Exactly why I want the ATi R700. A true next generation part. :D

[Dainas]

At the moment, Crysis will not run smooth on any hardware currently available. I know people will claim it does, but we all know that it is a load of BS. EVERY single benchmark (real world benchmark too, not synthetic) shows that with the very latest and best Quad Core CPU, and 2 (sometimes even 3) 8800 GTX Ultras, Crysis will bring the system to its knees never rendering more than avg 50 or so frames a second. So will 2 8800GTX's on one board be any different?????

I makes me laugh how some people think that 25-45fps is unplayable. Well enjoy waiting a year after release to enjoy it. Nvidia 9800GX2 has as much point as the 3870 X2. And the X2 has allot of point being that it let ATI creep back to the top rung, and is actually quiet elegant being relatively no bigger than an 8800GTX.

The 9800GX2 will (or should) let all of us without an SLI Nforce board run DX10 SLI with highend cards. It will however look pretty stupid if Nvidia turns around and releases its next gen part like the 7950GX2, but all winds hint this is not the case. Personally I'm not a fan of dual cards, but if I was in the market perhaps.

[Zytek_Fan]

I makes me laugh how some people think that 25-45fps is unplayable. Well enjoy waiting a year after release to enjoy it. Nvidia 9800GX2 has as much point as the 3870 X2. And the X2 has allot of point being that it let ATI creep back to the top rung, and is actually quiet elegant being relatively no bigger than an 8800GTX.

The 9800GX2 will (or should) let all of us without an SLI Nforce board run DX10 SLI with highend cards. It will however look pretty stupid if Nvidia turns around and releases its next gen part like the 7950GX2, but all winds hint this is not the case. Personally I'm not a fan of dual cards, but if I was in the market perhaps.

They are right about needing a completely new architecture soon. ATi and NVIDIA can't continue to squeeze out performance from their current parts.

[alexio]

Crysis played pretty well at 1280*1024 all medium with my X1950XT 256mb, this was without any tweaks. Now with my 8800GT (overclocked) I play it at medium, 1920*1200. In other words: The most beautiful game of the moment (personal opinion) runs all medium at a high resolution with a mid-range priced card. That's not too bad in my book.

For people that want the best of the best at any time the 9800GX2 is a viable option. For people that are looking for best price/performance it's never a good option to buy a high-end card at a $400+ pricetag. Just don't forget that something new is always around the corner.

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

Crysis played pretty well at 1280*1024 all medium with my X1950XT 256mb, this was without any tweaks. Now with my 8800GT (overclocked) I play it at medium, 1920*1200. In other words: The most beautiful game of the moment (personal opinion) runs all medium at a high resolution with a mid-range priced card. That's not too bad in my book.

For people that want the best of the best at any time the 9800GX2 is a viable option. For people that are looking for best price/performance it's never a good option to buy a high-end card at a $400+ pricetag. Just don't forget that something new is always around the corner.


Only medium? I can play high fine with a single GT. what proc and what gfx oc?

[alexio]

Only medium? I can play high fine with a single GT. what proc and what gfx oc?
I have an E6600 that I run 3.6ghz 24/7 and my 8800GT was running just 700/1674/2000 when I tested. Maybe with the new beta drivers and the vmod I've done I can run it on high too. The card is capable of 800/2000/2300 I'm sure of that :)

[Faktor]

Nvidia has something mean up their sleeve, but I am not sure why they are waiting so long to release it.

[Nanometer]

Nvidia has something mean up their sleeve, but I am not sure why they are waiting so long to release it.

money. The 8 series is still selling fine. They will release the new series when the ATI offering becomes a threat.

[DeathReborn]

So now a post by a ATI fan bashing the concept of 2 GPU's without mentioning the 3870X2 is newsworthy?

He says shrinking the high end GPU's and putting them onto 1 card is a bad thing... that's exactly what AMD have done with the 3870X2. I'd like to see him get Crysis smooth at 1920x1200/2560x1600 maxed out in DX10 V.High.

[Craftyman.]

Exactly why I want the ATi R700. A true next generation part. :D

+1 here. I find it interesting that nVidia has yet to announce their new high-end part, they should have one right? I mean, they've had so very long...

[koc]

money. The 8 series is still selling fine. They will release the new series when the ATI offering becomes a threat.

exactlly , since the 3870X2 can not beat 8800 ultra ,
So. why not keep milking consumers

[zanzabar]

exactlly , since the 3870X2 can not beat 8800 ultra ,
So. why not keep milking consumers

but at some point there is no1 left to buy their higher end cards u would think that they had like an 8850gtx or something by now, thats just a more oced g80 or some new ram or something slightly better

[alexio]

exactlly , since the 3870X2 can not beat 8800 ultra.
It can and at its price point the ATI card is a more viable option. People always seem to think that Nvidia is holding back on releasing their new products but I don't really think this is the case. They would have introduced 65nm much earlier to make a lot more money. G80 cards have always been expensive to make because of the large GPU, high PWM requirements, expensive PCB, etc, etc. Nvidia put years and years in developing the G80 and so did they in developing it's sucessor. I highly doubt that they have been holding back while ATI was on its knees.

[Scubar]

The 3870X2 does beat the Ultra comfortably in nearly every game. It doesnt do well in Quake Wars or Crysis but thats down to drivers. The really great thing is that the 3870X2 is priced at £270 in the Uk whereas the Ultras are priced at around £350-£400 so they will have to drop the prices on those by a large amount if they want to keep making sales. The other good thing about the really low price of the 3870X2 is that nVidia wont be able to slap a heavy price tag on the 8800GX2 because noone will buy it as its not going to give much performance increase over 3870X2.

[Krizby87]

Somehow I'm thinking Nvidia is releasing their true next gen vid card, but from the order of cut down version to full blown G92, cause 9800GX2 actually uses another version of G92

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2007-6/1264352/9800.jpg

[-iceblade^]

"exactlly , since the 3870X2 can not beat 8800 ultra."

price/performance, it does... not to mention in quite a few games it does better than the ultra...

[Mr.Kakarot]

keeping in mind the ultra is a single gpu card that has been out forever now.....
I think atis new card is a bit of a flop, and it will be a short lived release.

[Newblar]

yeah but i would rather have a 9800 x2 on a x48 chipset than having 2x 8800gtxs on a 680/780i

[swaaye]

G100 is in the works folks. It's just a question of how big it would be on 55-65nm... It's much more cost effective for them to make these dual boards, I believe, than a gigantic uber single core. Take note of how G92 has filled out most of their line-up. G80 was surely not as cheap a method to do that.

ATI R700 is going to be another dual board, I believe. At least the top rung variant of it is. Hopefully it's not far off because you better believe that 3870X2 is going to be planted into the ground in a few months.. It already is beaten by 8800GT SLI. They definitely can't wait a year to replace it.