I want best card for sound recording.

[And 1]

I'm sure the $80 XtremeGamer would be fine, but I've heard a few issues with them. Still not sure.

I want to reproduce exactly "what you hear" or my lineOut. With my onboard it sucks ass in quality. I cant reproduce exactly what I'm hearing. And that's what I want.

Should I go Creative or Auzentech? No idea.

How much do I have to spend?

Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 7.1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102006)
Creative 70SB046A00000 7.1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102005)
AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829156005)
Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132005)

[ROBSCIX]

The cards you listed are not considered recording cards they are gamer/HTPC cards. What are you recording?

[Donnie27]

I'm sure the $80 XtremeGamer would be fine, but I've heard a few issues with them. Still not sure.

I want to reproduce exactly "what you hear" or my lineOut. With my onboard it sucks ass in quality. I cant reproduce exactly what I'm hearing. And that's what I want.

Should I go Creative or Auzentech? No idea.

How much do I have to spend?

Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 7.1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102005)
Creative 70SB046A00000 7.1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102005)
AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829156005)
Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132005)

Since everyone are not an audiophile wanna be, yes, you can record via what hear for anything being played at the time. You can even record 5.1 24bit-96KHz WAV and etc... files. With even the $80 Xtreme Gamer. Almost any Full Duplex Hardware based card can do it. If you do heavy duty recording then, hardware EMU 1212 for about $110 is one of MANY good options.

[And 1]

My onboard has full duplex I believe. Cuz I recorded in Adobe Soundbooth and I believe it was checked on. Is that EMU 1212 good for gaming/movies as well as recording?

I'm recording every type of sounds. Shouldn't matter. It's sound. Mainly it's games, songs, human voices, or any video I'm watching.

My onboard is realtek acl888a. Abit IP35pro. I tried 3 methods of recording, then my friend showed me his results with his Audigy 2 card, and it was pretty good. Close. But I'd like better, or near exact.

[ROBSCIX]

Not really. It is considered a recording card. If you want to record the right way you need to right gear. If your just recording for the hell of it..then yeah you can use any card. Won't give you the best results when compared to a card that is meant for the task but might do if your not to concerned with quality as some aren't. Your budget and need should indicate which card you should go with.

[Donnie27]

My onboard has full duplex I believe. Cuz I recorded in Adobe Soundbooth and I believe it was checked on. Is that EMU 1212 good for gaming/movies as well as recording?

I'm recording every type of sounds. Shouldn't matter. It's sound. Mainly it's games, songs, human voices, or any video I'm watching.

My onboard is realtek acl888a. Abit IP35pro. I tried 3 methods of recording, then my friend showed me his results with his Audigy 2 card, and it was pretty good. Close. But I'd like better, or near exact.

The 1212 is specialized for Hardware recording and playback of those recordings. It's not meant for games and don't even carry support for them. When it comes to games I ONLY recommend something with an X-Fi except the Xtreme Audio.

You'll be told many things but I have 4 computers in my house. 3 of these have Creative Cards and only one is an X-Fi. 2 are Audigys. I sold the computer with my old Audigy. The X-FI sounds and records better than the Audigy of any kind except the Top Audigy 4 Pro the X-Fi Elite Pro replaced.

The Best Bang for the Buck gamer card is the X-Fi Xtreme Gamer.

I watch movies via a Set top unit. Even the cheap $29 ones ship with HDMI:)

[ROBSCIX]

My onboard has full duplex I believe. Cuz I recorded in Adobe Soundbooth and I believe it was checked on. Is that EMU 1212 good for gaming/movies as well as recording?

I'm recording every type of sounds. Shouldn't matter. It's sound. Mainly it's games, songs, human voices, or any video I'm watching.

My onboard is realtek acl888a. Abit IP35pro. I tried 3 methods of recording, then my friend showed me his results with his Audigy 2 card, and it was pretty good. Close. But I'd like better, or near exact.


Friends and I record music on a regular basis using PC's external gear and multitrack software. Actually given the nature of soundcards it does matter what your recording. Recording sound coming in from mic's, amps or anything else is different then recording sounds off your game that your playing. The internal routing is different and you will get varied sound quality depending on the card. If your just looking for something to record any old thing then any cheap soundcard is fine: X-Gamer. Most soundcards will record and playback at the same time.
Do you want card meant for recording or a card meant for everything?
A card for everything, I would go with the Prelude for recording I would look at M-Audio or others. Good luck on your buy.:up:

[Vargher Warg]

Friends and I record music on a regular basis using PC's external gear and multitrack software. Actually given the nature of soundcards it does matter what your recording. Recording sound coming in from mic's, amps or anything else is different then recording sounds off your game that your playing. The internal routing is different and you will get varied sound quality depending on the card. If your just looking for something to record any old thing then any cheap soundcard is fine: X-Gamer. Most soundcards will record and playback at the same time.
Do you want card meant for recording or a card meant for everything?
A card for everything, I would go with the Prelude for recording I would look at M-Audio or others. Good luck on your buy.:up:

Can I just borrow this thread for one question? - please!

I'm in the same situation as I want to start record stuff from my
electric guitar and Roger Linn's adrenalinn 3 multi-effect box with
some studio software.

So du you guys reckon I could manage with the Prelude card to have an allround solution for my PC-system?

Or should I focus on M-audio?

What about latency and such for recordings - Is the the prelude sufficient enough?

Thanks in advance!

[ROBSCIX]

@Vargher Warg, Depends, if you want professional 24/96 recordings to work with for tracking a band etc. then you want a professional quality recording card. -Such as M-Audio or others. If this is more of a fun thing and you want a soundcard meant for everything then the Prelude will handle it no problem but it is meant for different applications. It does have quality ADC's though. As for latency I have tested the Prelude with guitar rig and I get near real-time sound. So close you can't tell the difference. BTW, If your effects unit has a line-out which many of them do these days connect it to whatever card your using right now. This will give you something to play with for now. If your serious about recording...buy a card meant for it. Hope this helps.

[Donnie27]

Can I just borrow this thread for one question? - please!

I'm in the same situation as I want to start record stuff from my
electric guitar and Roger Linn's adrenalinn 3 multi-effect box with
some studio software.

So du you guys reckon I could manage with the Prelude card to have an allround solution for my PC-system?

Or should I focus on M-audio?

What about latency and such for recordings - Is the the prelude sufficient enough?

Thanks in advance!

And some folks complain about Buggy drivers while offering up M-Audio LOL!

Too much is going unsaid here so I'll help.

http://www.platinum-records.com/detail.aspx?ID=7919


Mastering-grade 24-bit, 192kHz converters
Flexible connectivity with 1/4" balanced analog I/O, 24/192 ADAT I/O and 24/96 S/PDIF I/O, MIDI I/O plus a FireWire port
E-DSP 32-bit multi-effects processor offers over 16 simultaneous hardware-accelerated studio-grade effects with no CPU overhead
32 channels of zero latency hardware mixing/monitoring with flexible virtual patchbay - no external mixer needed
Full compatibility with most popular audio/sequencer applications with ultra-low latency WDM, DirectSound and ASIO 2.0 drivers

So not only does it have the hardware, but ships with the software as well. Not to meantion is Has very good DAC's and ADC's, same as the Pro Tools BTW.

The best part about it?

http://www.valleyseek.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=70EM896206000

List Price: $149.99
Our Price: $105.59 in stock. Oh and before he says it, sometimes you get more than what you pay for and this one of those times.:D

There are times when I'd not hesitate to say get a Prelude this time I don't think so! X-Fi can do low latency recordings and I was doing that when Rob was still using an Audigy Value LOL! Oh and I didn't need to use a mixer.

[ROBSCIX]

Can I just borrow this thread for one question? - please!

I'm in the same situation as I want to start record stuff from my
electric guitar and Roger Linn's adrenalinn 3 multi-effect box with
some studio software.

So du you guys reckon I could manage with the Prelude card to have an allround solution for my PC-system?

Or should I focus on M-audio?

What about latency and such for recordings - Is the the prelude sufficient enough?

Thanks in advance!

I was thinking of picking up one of those adrenalinn 3 multi-effects units, I have heard great things about that unit. I have read a bunch of info on Roger and some love his gear. How do you like it? Aslong as the unit has a line-level out your good to go for PC recording. I have a bunch of different recording gear for my PC and I trade with friends. The software based stuff is OK like Guitar rig etc. I still prefer to mic a Marshall amplifier, some of the new amps have a good line-out with cabinet emulation. I also use cabinet modelers from time to time. I have a 12 channel mixer for recording groups and unplugged "tracks" it comes in very handy for the PC and I recommend them to anybody who is serious about PC recording. It is nice to be able to record all those sources at the same time plus channel inserts, FX loops etc. Very handy. If you get into recording on a PC you will start accumulating gear, I have alot of gear connected to my PC. If you are serious about it though a good recording card is always the way to go. I suggest talking with guys in a PC recording forum etc. They can tell you which cards have buggy drivers or poor ADC's and which are good recording cards. What other gear are you using? What kind of axe do you have?

[Vargher Warg]

@Vargher Warg, Depends, if you want professional 24/96 recordings to work with for tracking a band etc. then you want a professional quality recording card. -Such as M-Audio or others. If this is more of a fun thing and you want a soundcard meant for everything then the Prelude will handle it no problem but it is meant for different applications. It does have quality ADC's though. As for latency I have tested the Prelude with guitar rig and I get near real-time sound. So close you can't tell the difference. BTW, If your effects unit has a line-out which many of them do these days connect it to whatever card your using right now. This will give you something to play with for now. If your serious about recording...buy a card meant for it. Hope this helps.

Yes! I guess my gamerdays are more or less over, and other interests
like the music is talking a more important place in my heart and life!

So I guess I have to focus and research into getting a good soundcard
for recording.

Don't get me wrong! I still love to play a good game from time to time :)


And some folks complain about Buggy drivers while offering up M-Audio LOL!

Too much is going unsaid here so I'll help.

http://www.platinum-records.com/detail.aspx?ID=7919



So not only does it have the hardware, but ships with the software as well. Not to meantion is Has very good DAC's and ADC's, same as the Pro Tools BTW.

The best part about it?

http://www.valleyseek.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=70EM896206000

List Price: $149.99
Our Price: $105.59 in stock. Oh and before he says it, sometimes you get more than what you pay for and this one of those times.:D

There are times when I'd not hesitate to say get a Prelude this time I don't think so! X-Fi can do low latency recordings and I was doing that when Rob was still using an Audigy Value LOL! Oh and I didn't need to use a mixer.

Thanks mate for pointing that card out for me!

Seems like a great card for a great price! - love the included software bundle as well!

I found this bundles here in Europe for a great price:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/emu_1212memulator_xset.htm

And with a midi-controller bundle as well for a nice price:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/emu_emu_1212m_emulator_bcn_bundle.htm
(Maybe a midi-controller is useful for me to have if want to trigger drumpads)

And with a 64% saving from the full price! :)

But It seems to be under XP only? - and I (the Idiot!) just took the plunge
into Vista with my new system :yepp: :rolleyes: :rofl: :ROTF: :mad:

Do you know anything about this card? :
http://www.thomann.de/gb/esi_juliat.htm
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/esi-julia/index.html

It's apparently with Vista compability.




I was thinking of picking up one of those adrenalinn 3 multi-effects units, I have heard great things about that unit. I have read a bunch of info on Roger and some love his gear. How do you like it? Aslong as the unit has a line-level out your good to go for PC recording. I have a bunch of different recording gear for my PC and I trade with friends. The software based stuff is OK like Guitar rig etc. I still prefer to mic a Marshall amplifier, some of the new amps have a good line-out with cabinet emulation. I also use cabinet modelers from time to time. I have a 12 channel mixer for recording groups and unplugged "tracks" it comes in very handy for the PC and I recommend them to anybody who is serious about PC recording. It is nice to be able to record all those sources at the same time plus channel inserts, FX loops etc. Very handy. If you get into recording on a PC you will start accumulating gear, I have alot of gear connected to my PC. If you are serious about it though a good recording card is always the way to go. I suggest talking with guys in a PC recording forum etc. They can tell you which cards have buggy drivers or poor ADC's and which are good recording cards. What other gear are you using? What kind of axe do you have?

I just bought the Adrenalinn3 two days ago! so I've not played so much
with it yet, but I can tell you that this little machine is awsome.

The drum-machine on this Adrenalinn is quite good and when I start
to fiddle a little bit I can almost get a nice and near realistic drum sound.

The amplifier part is great as well! - I can get really FAT Marshall tube sound
and with some crazy effects included, you'll play with a smile on your face!

Of course a real 100w Marshall stack is to prefer! but If I would have that
in our rental apartment I'd probably soon be living alone in the street's! :ROTF:

I have three guitars, or maybe I should say 2 and a half!

My main AXES are: "Gibson Les Paul BFG" which I love for Its versatility and LP sound
(I'm a sucker for that great warm and thick sound & sustain from the Les Paul's guitars)
and then I have a vintage "Washburn wing Falcon"
that I inherited from my uncle who also loved to play and jam with us.

I'm soon going to put my cheap Ibanez GAX30 "travel guitar" together again.
(This cheap guitar I bought after my marriage just to have something to jam on!)
The guitar is quite good for Its price and has a nice playable neck, so I like playing it.
The pickup's are quite awful though! and are going to be replaced with some
Seymoure Duncan pickup for the neck or something else that sounds good together in bridge?

I also have my uncle's old Orange amplifier at my parents house
but unfortunetly is not working, so I need to get it repaired somewhere.

I have now borrowed a Roland Cube from my friend, just to have
some amp to play with.

I sold my first Fender guitar and Amp & gear to have money
when I married my wife 7 years ago! I did a big mistake selling
my gear and was very unhappy for a long time!

She's now my ex-wife and we got back together again now recently
after 3 years apart! she is still a bit#h and nags the hell out of me!
But I do love her even if she's utterly insane most of the time.

Ha-ha! - Life is strange and funny sometimes!

And I keep my eyes open right now for the retailers coming sales!
I'm going to hunt down something simular to this:
http://www.gretschguitars.com/gear/index.php?product=G6120SHB&cat1=&cat2=&q=&st=1

But Gretsch is too expensive for me so I have to look for somthing simular.
I've always wanted a lightblue semi-electric guitar! :)

As with computer hardware, guitars and pickups and other technical stuff!
we have to buy it from some good shopping sites in Germany or France
because of the insane Swedish retail prices.

I'll check with some PC recording forum and see if I can find some
more information that I'll going to need for my small home studio setup.

I'm not a professional doing this 110% serious or for money!

I'm just a guy that used to play in a band in my younger
years and I'm now missing that part a bit!

So now It's time to start my own - one man band and ROCK!!! :yepp:

Thanks for the information guys!

Regards!

[ROBSCIX]

There are great cards out there from many different companies. Also, if you still want to game you can run two cards at the same time. You are right though if you want the best sound quality in your recording you need a dedicated recording card. I have enough gear to track a full rock band, including the software to do it. Not to mention software effects for mixing and mastering. I am currently running dual cards, considering adding another 8 channels though. I have so many audio signals going in and out of my PC they are all labeled and I keep a signal flow diagram and hookup charts. I really need to put in a patch bay. I mentioned the mixer because it adds so much flexibility to your setup, even a small 4 channel model. Think of it as a hardware extension to your soundcard. -You add more features to whatever card you choose. EQ,channel strips,shelving EQ, Mic Pre-amps, Digital effects. Arm,mute,solo..etc. Also that Juli@ is a nice card..considered reference level by many. Read reviews and get opinions on any/every card your thinking of buying or using. Some are great deals because they aren't very good recording cards and/or have very bad drivers and/or OS support so nobody really want to use them. Good Luck on your quest.

[Donnie27]

Thanks mate for pointing that card out for me!

Seems like a great card for a great price! - love the included software bundle as well!

I found this bundles here in Europe for a great price:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/emu_1212memulator_xset.htm

And with a midi-controller bundle as well for a nice price:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/emu_emu_121...bcn_bundle.htm
(Maybe a midi-controller is useful for me to have if want to trigger drumpads)

And with a 64% saving from the full price!

But It seems to be under XP only? - and I (the Idiot!) just took the plunge
into Vista with my new system

Do you know anything about this card? :
http://www.thomann.de/gb/esi_juliat.htm
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...lia/index.html

It's apparently with Vista compability.

You're welcomed!

Since I only sit around the house and jam with the bros every once in awhile, can't really see myself with a Gibson though I love them. I like the Studio model/s. I'm just learning the Guitar and keep a couple of low cost ones for my Bud's to have something to jam with me on. I have an Epiphone version of it the LP Studio. I have a Washburn Delta Blues (335 copy) but I totally love my ESP bass but if I were in a band I easily have a Warrick 5 string.

Some of my buds at MaxPC loved their ESI Juli@. Nope I don't know much at all about it personally never heard one.