Catalyst 8.1 final released!

[Sly Fox]

http://game.amd.com/us-en/default.aspx

Downloading now.

[xoqolatl]

Any change from 8.1 betas?

[Sly Fox]

The driver packaging version is: "8.451-071220a1-057725C-ATI."

Not sure about differences between this and the beta driver, but if that version is different, I'm sure SOMETHING is changed.

[zanzabar]

did they add crossfire x support as promised

[Sly Fox]

People who used the Beta drivers said that it worked, but I only have normal Crossfire so I can't confirm.

About to run Crysis. With 7.12 I got NO improvement in ANY games and applications other than 3dMark06 with Crossfire enabled.

So hopefully this version will fix that.

[Origin_Unknown]

did they add crossfire x support as promised

hopefully

[mascaras]

Intsaling for XP


report back

regards

[ChaosMinionX]

SERVER TOO BUSY!

:mad:

[Eastcoasthandle]

SERVER TOO BUSY!

:mad:

Wow, thats a first :rofl:

:mad:

[Sly Fox]

Wow, this is really really disappointing.

Same exact problems I had with 7.12.

40 FPS in CoD4 where I get 65 with Crossfire disabled.

Same FPS in Crysis with Crossfire disabled and enabled, no change.

40 FPS in UT3 where I get 65 FPS with Crossfire disabled...

And yet 3DMark06 performs on par for Crossfire... 15,800...

I'm really at the end of my rope with this bull, I think I'm just gonna have to sell the cards...

[Sunfire]

It's working again!

[mascaras]

Wow, this is really really disappointing.

Same exact problems I had with 7.12.

40 FPS in CoD4 where I get 65 with Crossfire disabled.

Same FPS in Crysis with Crossfire disabled and enabled, no change.

40 FPS in UT3 where I get 65 FPS with Crossfire disabled...

And yet 3DMark06 performs on par for Crossfire... 15,800...

I'm really at the end of my rope with this bull, I think I'm just gonna have to sell the cards...



Here with HD3870 crossfire working on both Vista & XP (Cod4 & Crysis) , even with Cat 7.12


however cat 8.1 final (XP) dont have new Crossfire panel in CCC like cat 8.1 beta (vista)


regards

[RedBull78]

Wow, this is really really disappointing.

Same exact problems I had with 7.12.

40 FPS in CoD4 where I get 65 with Crossfire disabled.

Same FPS in Crysis with Crossfire disabled and enabled, no change.

40 FPS in UT3 where I get 65 FPS with Crossfire disabled...

And yet 3DMark06 performs on par for Crossfire... 15,800...

I'm really at the end of my rope with this bull, I think I'm just gonna have to sell the cards...

The problem is your mobo. Opt for a diff chipset.

[Sly Fox]

How can you be sure?

That was the first thing I guessed it was, but that doesn't explain why it works just fine in 3dMark06. I've also tried it with the onboard soundcard disabled and the X-Fi removed and uninstalled, to see if it was a sound issue, and that didn't do anything.

[xoqolatl]

News: 3Dm06 went from 17.8k (8.1 betas) to 17.4k (8.1 final)
Source engine games seem to run a tiny bit better. Crossfire works in Crysis & others. CCC has not changed since 8.1 betas.

EDIT:
@ Sly Fox: you have all hotfixes installed?

[Sly Fox]

I believe I do. In a topic in the Genral Hardware -> Video Card section I was informed of four multi-GPU hotfixes and installed all of them.

[mascaras]

CCC has not changed since 8.1 betas.




with Cat 8.1 beta in Windows Vista i had a new Crossfire options (configure/diagnostic)


with cat 8.1 Final in windows XP i dont have that options


regards

[xoqolatl]

with Cat 8.1 beta in Windows Vista i had a new Crossfire options (configure/diagnostic)


with cat 8.1 Final in windows XP i dont have that options


regards

Vista 32 here, those Crossfire options are present but TBH they are useless... "Diagnostics" tab doesn't show anything no matter what.

[Sly Fox]

OK, check this out, like I said, I get a 3dMark06 score that proves that in that regard Crossfire is obviously working. There's no way I could get this score with a single card at stock speeds.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6242/futuremarkscorehd1.jpg

And yet, I get 40 FPS in CoD4 with Crossfire on, 60+ with it off.

The ONLY difference other than sound (which I've already ruled out) between 3dMark06 and my other games is that 3dMark06 is on my C: partition, and my other games are either on D: (the same drive as C: though) or G: (my Raptor X).

I'm just really frustrated I guess, I had really high hopes that 8.1 would fix it up and I'd actually get my $500+ worth out of these cards :mad:

Unless something... Or someone shows up to solve this, I guess you'll see these cards in the For Sale forum pretty soon. :(

[v_rr]

An 8.1 hotfix has also been released:
http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31625

This hotfix resolves the following issues:

* Fix for problems with DirectX and Radeon AGP Graphics cards.
* Crysis: DirectX 10 Performance optimizations using Crossfire

To download the Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix, please click on the links below:

Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix for Windows XP Professional and Home Edition
Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix for Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix for Windows Vista 32-bit Edition
Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix for Windows Vista 64-bit Edition

[mascaras]

OK, check this out, like I said, I get a 3dMark06 score that proves that in that regard Crossfire is obviously working. There's no way I could get this score with a single card at stock speeds.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6242/futuremarkscorehd1.jpg

And yet, I get 40 FPS in CoD4 with Crossfire on, 60+ with it off.

The ONLY difference other than sound (which I've already ruled out) between 3dMark06 and my other games is that 3dMark06 is on my C: partition, and my other games are either on D: (the same drive as C: though) or G: (my Raptor X).

I'm just really frustrated I guess, I had really high hopes that 8.1 would fix it up and I'd actually get my $500+ worth out of these cards :mad:

Unless something... Or someone shows up to solve this, I guess you'll see these cards in the For Sale forum pretty soon. :(


CF in 3dmark is always enable but NOT in games

with cat 7.11 & 7.12 Crossfire always work in 3dmark , but in Games sometimes Disable , like if you run a 3d aplication or exit a game the CF disables in next game you open (3dmark stil work )

with Cat 8.1 it seems that problem is solved , CF no longer disables in games


An 8.1 hotfix has also been released:
http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31625

This hotfix resolves the following issues:

* Fix for problems with DirectX and Radeon AGP Graphics cards.
* Crysis: DirectX 10 Performance optimizations using Crossfire

To download the Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix, please click on the links below:

Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix for Windows XP Professional and Home Edition
Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix for Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix for Windows Vista 32-bit Edition
Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix for Windows Vista 64-bit Edition

thnks , downloading now


edit: That Hotfix is Older than the Catalyts 8.1



regards

[Sly Fox]

Doesn't that pretty much rule out a motherboard incompatibility though?

I guess I'm kinda grasping at straws here, but I'm trying to convince myself that it's a driver issue not hardware. Seeing that 8.1 didn't fix anything for me however, has led to a great deal of doubt on my end...

[RedBull78]

Doesn't that pretty much rule out a motherboard incompatibility though?

I guess I'm kinda grasping at straws here, but I'm trying to convince myself that it's a driver issue not hardware. Seeing that 8.1 didn't fix anything for me however, has led to a great deal of doubt on my end...

Is your mobo based on the old Intel P965 chipset or is it based on the new Intel X38 chipset? I see you have a Asus P5KC Mobo but im not sure what chipset it is. If it is Intel P965 then it would make sense why you're having problems. Other then that, I dont know.

[Sly Fox]

It's a P35 based chipset.

[mascaras]

An 8.1 hotfix has also been released:
http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31625

This hotfix resolves the following issues:

* Fix for problems with DirectX and Radeon AGP Graphics cards.
* Crysis: DirectX 10 Performance optimizations using Crossfire

To download the Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix, please click on the links below:

Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix for Windows XP Professional and Home Edition
Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix for Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix for Windows Vista 32-bit Edition
Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix for Windows Vista 64-bit Edition


thnks , downloading now


edit: That Hotfix is Older than the Catalyts 8.1



regards





my fault , that hotfix is not for HD38x0





The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s):

* Radeon™ HD2900 series
* Radeon™ HD2600 series
* Radeon™ HD2400 series
* Radeon™ X1950 series
* Radeon™ X1900 series
* Radeon™ X1800 series
* Radeon™ X1650 series
* Radeon™ X1600 series
* Radeon™ X1550 series
* Radeon™ X1300 series
* Radeon™ X1050 series
* Radeon™ X850 series
* Radeon™ X800 series
* Radeon™ X700 series
* Radeon™ X600 series
* Radeon™ X550 series
* Radeon™ X300 series
* Windows Vista 32-bit Edition
* Windows Vista 64-bit Edition
* Windows XP Professional
* Windows XP Home Edition
* Windows XP Media Center Edition
* Windows XP Professional x64 Edition

[RedBull78]

Doesn't that pretty much rule out a motherboard incompatibility though?

I guess I'm kinda grasping at straws here, but I'm trying to convince myself that it's a driver issue not hardware. Seeing that 8.1 didn't fix anything for me however, has led to a great deal of doubt on my end...

Alright I just checked your mobo is P35 based. Here is a review from one of the customers that left based on your mobo. It sure sounds very problematic.

"Cons: I have tried this board with four different kinds of RAM from two different manufacturers. I have tried two different motherboards, power supplies, video cards, processors... you name it. I have been in this business and working with systems for some 15 years and never have I had more issues with a board than I have had with this. I have tried DDR2 AND DDR3. I have purchased RAM from the RAM mfg website listed as viable and tested for the specific board. NO GOOD. Sure, some people have had success (I assume mostly luck) with this, but the simple fact is that the board is flaky at best. Recent BIOS updates have been no help. My recommendation at this point would be to avoid ASUS for a while and stick with a DDR2 only motherboard until ASUS and the rest of the MFGs get the kinks out. Not happy with ASUS at all. Long time customer of their products."

[RedBull78]

So my guess is your mobo is the culprit.

X series chipsets are very well designed for Xfire. Hence the name :up:

In case you didnt know the mobo you are using doesnt even offer you 8x 8x lanes but it has only one 16x and the black slot is only 4x or 1x mode


"Expansion Slots
PCI Express x16 2 x PCI-E x16 (blue @ x16 mode, black @ x4 or x1 mode)
PCI Express x1 1
PCI Slots 3 "

[Sly Fox]

I definitely knew when I got it that it has a lot of problems with memory.

It's a DDR3/DDR2 combo board so in that regard it's very buggy.

However, with DDR2-800 Ballistix I've had no problems at all regarding CPU/memory stability.

I'm certainly not trying to claim that I know for sure it's not a motherboard issue, but I just find it very odd that it works in 3dMark06 and not in any games I've tried. If it was hardware related, wouldn't you think it would affect EVERYTHING, not just games, while sparing benchmarks?

[RedBull78]

If you want a great mobo go for the new Foxconn X38. Very good mobo for the price. I will be purchasing it very soon when dual core wolfdales come out. It will retire my DFI 939 expert and dual core opty. I feel sad already. But its bottlenecking my 8800gtx's ....Goodluck.

[mascaras]

I'm certainly not trying to claim that I know for sure it's not a motherboard issue, but I just find it very odd that it works in 3dMark06 and not in any games I've tried. If it was hardware related, wouldn't you think it would affect EVERYTHING, not just games, while sparing benchmarks?



thats normal , 3dmark always run in Crossfire but that doesnt mean its running in games


but CF not working in COD4 & Crysis its not HD3870s problem , because me and also my friend can run OK (Vista & XP) , however in Crysis with Vista i have A LOT more Breaks than in XP (but CF works)


regards

[RedBull78]

I definitely knew when I got it that it has a lot of problems with memory.

It's a DDR3/DDR2 combo board so in that regard it's very buggy.

However, with DDR2-800 Ballistix I've had no problems at all regarding CPU/memory stability.

I'm certainly not trying to claim that I know for sure it's not a motherboard issue, but I just find it very odd that it works in 3dMark06 and not in any games I've tried. If it was hardware related, wouldn't you think it would affect EVERYTHING, not just games, while sparing benchmarks?

That is a good question and a very tricky question. I'm not sure but like someone said earlier , syntetic benchmarks are not the same as real world applications and the drivers play a different role to it.

Before retiring the mobo I would try another thing, i see u r using 64 bit vista? So is there any chance u can load up xp if u still have it available?

Try that, if the problem is still there then my guess is the mobo.

[RedBull78]

thats normal , 3dmark always run in Crossfire but that dont mean its running in games


but CF not working in COD4 & Crysis its not HD3870s problem , because me and also my friend can run OK (Vista & XP)


regards

I think this is the problem ; what do you think?

ASUS P5KC LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

Expansion Slots
PCI Express x16 2 x PCI-E x16 (blue @ x16 mode, black @ x4 or x1 mode)
PCI Express x1 1
PCI Slots 3

Dual 16x PCE lanes is a must for all new high end cards...

[Sly Fox]

Sadly I don't have any copies of XP anymore, sold it away when I sold my old computer to a friend a while back.

I suppose I could "obtain" a copy solely for testing purposes and give that a shot, are there any good Windows programs that can make a small partition without wiping the data off a drive?

[Repoman]

Looks like nothing for XP single card users

[mascaras]

I think this is the problem ; what do you think?

ASUS P5KC LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

Expansion Slots
PCI Express x16 2 x PCI-E x16 (blue @ x16 mode, black @ x4 or x1 mode)
PCI Express x1 1
PCI Slots 3

Dual 16x PCE lanes is a must for all new high end cards...


Could be the mobo , i realy dont know (probably yes)

only thing im sure its not the HD3870s , because me , my friend and also a lot other ppl (here in XS too) can run Crossfire in Crysis and COD4


SLy Fox do you have the Crysis Patch V1.1 installed??


regards

[Sly Fox]

Yes I do.

I've also got the latest patch for CoD4 and UT3 installed.

[WrigleyVillain]

Looks like nothing for XP single card users

Well hopefully they fixed the stupid Firefox color bug.

[Sly Fox]

Honestly, I think I'm about ready to just give up totally and put back in my G80 8800 GTS. I mean, sure it's not that amazing anymore, but at least it works...

So if anyones looking for a couple perfect condition Sapphire 3870's :p:

[eXa]

oooh... if i just had the money.

[mascaras]

Well hopefully they fixed the stupid Firefox color bug.

with Crossfire the Firefox color Bug = CF disable In games

example:

here in extremesystems forum

users nicks BLUE = CF enable in games

Users nicks Brown = CF disable in games


CF enable (nicks = Blue)
http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/40162/2002371825820858841_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002371825820858841)



CF Disable (nicks = Brown)
http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/42280/2002342976683583614_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002342976683583614)


:p: :p: :p:



with Cat 7.12 sometimes nicks are brown even with CF enable in CCC (that also means CF in games are disable)



reagrds

[Apoc@]

I have a little shivering in 3D mode when i run CrossFire, looks like they will need a fix for it.

If you disable Catalyst AI the image is perfect in CrossFire...

[ThatGuy16]

In my opinion, these are the best drivers so far.

For me, its fixed all of the problems were the card was staying in 2D mode when launching a few games. Also, in riva tuner.. it seems that i have a little more control over the fan. Im about to do a 3dmark run and a few crysis benchmarks to see if there is and performance increase/decrease

[mascaras]

In my opinion, these are the best drivers so far.


yep no doubt!!

WIC and UT3 also better performance


btw:

Tests from techPowerUp User using HD2900 + AMD X2 3800



I got a MACHO boost in UT3! After running a few time-demos with both the 7.12 and 8.1 drivers, here are the results:

mapname changelist datestamp avg FPS % over 30 FPS
WAR-Floodgate 206281 2007.01.16-17.08.05 50.32 87.69 (8.1 @ 820/960)
WAR-Floodgate 206281 2007.01.16-16.36.27 32.28 67.30 (7.12 @ 820/960)

mapname changelist datestamp avg FPS % over 30 FPS
WAR-Torlan 206281 2007.01.16-17.05.51 49.23 91.09 (8.1 @ 820/960)
WAR-Torlan 206281 2007.01.16-16.38.45 47.03 87.21 (7.12 @ 820/960)


While I obviously didn't do quite as well in Torlan the 2nd time around, I think that this is more due to the limitations of my cpu and the fact that I ran that test at stock speeds. I got a boost of 14 fps in Floodgate though! :nutkick:

Edit: I updated my benchmarks with overclocked results on 8.1. Wow! This performance boost is simply amazing. Note that these benchmarks were all taken at max details.

Edit2: I got 8870 3dmarks with the 7.12 drivers, now I get 8999 with the 8.1 drivers!



http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=614050&postcount=20







i also got better 3dmark06 performance with HD3870 Crossfire + Cat 8.1 than with Cat 7.12 (around + 150 marks)




regards

[Sly Fox]

I don't mean to whore myself out here, but I put up a post in the For Sale forum (you need 100+ posts to see it).

Just don't want to deal with it anymore frankly, I'll wait for G100.

[Papu]

installed fine here , il bench 3d06 now.

[xoqolatl]

I installed that hotfix, it's basically a newer version of display driver (8.451.4 vs 8.451.0). Crysis runs a little smoother, but that's all.

[003]

I installed that hotfix, it's basically a newer version of display driver (8.451.4 vs 8.451.0). Crysis runs a little smoother, but that's all.

I am confused. Are you referring to this hotfix:
http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31625

And if so, are you saying that it is newer than the official 8.1 release? Because now there are reports saying it is older, and ones saying it is newer.

What's the real scoop here? What are the latest ATI drivers?

[mascaras]

I installed that hotfix, it's basically a newer version of display driver (8.451.4 vs 8.451.0). Crysis runs a little smoother, but that's all.


Hotfix its not for HD3000 series


An 8.1 hotfix has also been released:


http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31625

This hotfix resolves the following issues:

* Fix for problems with DirectX and Radeon AGP Graphics cards.
* Crysis: DirectX 10 Performance optimizations using Crossfire



The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s):

* Radeon™ HD2900 series
* Radeon™ HD2600 series
* Radeon™ HD2400 series
* Radeon™ X1950 series
* Radeon™ X1900 series
* Radeon™ X1800 series
* Radeon™ X1650 series
* Radeon™ X1600 series
* Radeon™ X1550 series
* Radeon™ X1300 series
* Radeon™ X1050 series
* Radeon™ X850 series
* Radeon™ X800 series
* Radeon™ X700 series
* Radeon™ X600 series
* Radeon™ X550 series
* Radeon™ X300 series








And its also a older version than cat 8.1 for HD38x0 series , windows also warning when instaling hotfix that its a older version than the one you already have instaled @ Cat 8.1 ( anyway Hotfix its not for HD3000 series )


:up:



btw: one thing i noticed with cat 8.1 its a litle square in the top left corner of the monitor ( 2 friends also have that)




http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/489/cantonb4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)





regards

[003]

So I still don't understand. Is the hotfix newer or older than the official 8.1 release? I have a 2900pro. Are you going by the fact that windows says the version you already have is newer, or are you actually looking at the version of the driver and CCC in CCC?

[ThatGuy16]

I have that square too...

[afireinside]

Yeah wtf is that square :stick: I have it as well.

[[XC] Lead Head]

It's spying on you.

[Dimitriman]

*I can't see the square normally but if i minimize and maximize a window quickly it can definitely see it in that corner.

*Color bug still remains for me, running Single card 3870 WinXP 32.

[zanzabar]

i have the square also, but if i take a SS its a grey square

[Dimitriman]

who programs these drivers...

really...

what good are 2FPS extra in games if u get what looks like a perfect gathering of 50 dead pixels on your screen and wrong color on web browsing that just wont go away.

[003]

I have just installed the 8.1 catalyst (not the hotfix version) on XP x64 and I do not get the wrong colors in FF nor am I getting that square.

But I still would like clarification: Which drivers are newer? The official 8.1 or the 8.1 hotfix? There have been reports going either way. Please someone verify this by checking the version numbers listed in CCC, not what windows might tell you.

[EvilBellyLint]

so far what I see is peeps with P35 boards not seeing any improvement
in Crossfire with this patch. But could someone with an actual 790FX
chipset please report back as to any performance increase?

(in-game performance please, not benchmarks...)


TY


EBL

[Brother Esau]

Yes Drivers Rock:D Crysis is now Playable!

[EvilBellyLint]

Yes Drivers Rock:D Crysis is now Playable!

cool brutha. If you get some time, pls post some results!
(doesn't have to be screenies -- text will do fine ;) )

EBL

[Brother Esau]

Here is My first Official Result......My $50.00 CRYSIS game is Now Playable:party:

[EvilBellyLint]

Here is My first Official Result......My $50.00 CRYSIS game is Now Playable:party:

:toast:


EBL

[xoqolatl]

Hotfix its not for HD3000 series

I went to AMD knowledge base, clicked on HD3850, and there was a link to this hotfix. I guess it is for HD3xx0 series, but they forgot to write it.

And I am not saying it's newer - but it has higher version number.

EDIT: Rofl, VIsta 32 here amd I have a white square :confused:

[malik22]

I went to AMD knowledge base, clicked on HD3850, and there was a link to this hotfix. I guess it is for HD3xx0 series, but they forgot to write it.

And I am not saying it's newer - but it has higher version number.

EDIT: Rofl, VIsta 32 here amd I have a white square :confused:


Could you give a link for the 3870hotfix and for the whitedot go open CCC-preferences-enable system try menu that will get rid of it.

[ownage]

Here is My first Official Result......My $50.00 CRYSIS game is Now Playable:party:

You mean you have a big FPS increase or are the lightning bugs gone?

[zanzabar]

Could you give a link for the 3870hotfix and for the whitedot go open CCC-preferences-enable system try menu that will get rid of it.

that dosnt get rid of it on vista 64

[xoqolatl]

Could you give a link for the 3870hotfix and for the whitedot go open CCC-preferences-enable system try menu that will get rid of it.

Link:
AMD Customer Care Site Map > Radeon Support - PC > Radeon HD 3870 > Knowledge base > Gaming > Gaming (http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31625)
Link #16 is: Catalyst 8.1 hotfix

And disabling tray menu helped.

[Brother Esau]

You mean you have a big FPS increase or are the lightning bugs gone?

No I actually mean its playable! After the First Alien Encounter with the Frozen ship it all started going down hill and getting laggy and unplayable which ultimately led to Hard Locking when saving game or reaching check points right before and after excavation site and then it would go no further that was the cut off with my game play with patch 1.1 & CAT 7.12:( but now its all good;)

[fragmasterMax]

man this is disappointing.
looks like no go on 2900pro cf

[roadie]

Well hopefully they fixed the stupid Firefox color bug.
So that is what was causing the funny colours! I actually found it a little useful, as it would highlight searched terms but prefer the default settings. I will install these drivers tonight, I wonder if they fixed the Overdrive settings, as 7.12 would take my card's core up to 945Mhz before restarting. It would then crash every time the drivers tried to load when rebooting, necessitating booting in safe mode and reinstalling the drivers.

[nate39]

Bro. Esau,

I see you are using Powercolor 3870s. I only have one but it has that core 860 limit. Do yours and if so, did you flash them? And if so, did that take care of the problem? My friends Sapphire didn't have the problem, yet the Powercolor tech tells me that all the companies get the same bios from ATI.

thanks

[Unbornchild]

Try the 'Sapphire' bios then, see http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=173510 for link.

[HKPolice]

So what's the final verdict on the firefox colour bug? Also WTF with that tiny square? Spyware??

[Dimitriman]

So what's the final verdict on the firefox colour bug? Also WTF with that tiny square? Spyware??

Color poop is absolutely still there for me.

anyway to report this back to AMD? if enough people do it I'm sure it will get fixed by next version.

[MGreg]

No luck with these drivers and 2900xt's for me, not sure if its cause I have overclocked or what, but 7.12 made my max oc w/o instability 850 core, now I have no idea.

I am going back to 7.11 so I can get my 950 game stable again.

These ones 3dmark06 is like half the screen is not in sync with the other half. Same with games.

[newls1]

SLY FOX

Just a few questions: When you go into GPU-Z, what does it say for crossfire? Does it say "enabled" using 1 GPU, "enabled" using 2 GPUs. I ask cause you and I had the EXACT SAME ISSUES:) Prior to my Asus Maximus X38 motherboard that im using now, I was using my trusty P5K-DLX P35 motherboard with the 16x 4x limitation. When using x-fire on the P35 chipset, GPU-z would report CROSSFIRE as "ENABLED" using "1" GPU . Which if you ask me doesnt sound right:shrug: , how can x-fire be enabled, but use only 1 gpu? My 3dmark scores were only 15xxx and that also couldnt be right. Games plays laggy, and over all, my single 8800GTS 640mb card provided a better and smoother gaming experience. I got so fed up with the crap, that I took a chance and "rolled the dice" with a X38 based chipset motherboard in the hopes that this could fix my issues. I ordered my current motherboard which is a Asus Maximus Formula X38.

After doing a fresh format of XP home 32bit, installing the newest intel INF drivers, latest DX update, and (at that time) the 7.11 driver (7.12 sucked) reboot, enabled x-fire in CCC, reboot again, installed GPUz and BAM!! it now reads "CROSSFIRE ENABLED using "2" GPUs:up: . I said to myself, now this makes sense;) . I overclocked all my cards to 860c/2600mem, then rebooted again.........INstalled 3dmark06 and achieved my score of 20,600k:) Now isnt that better? games played great (UT3, HL2 EP2) and I am really happy with the purchase of the X38. Try it if you can.

[AliG]

How can you be sure?

That was the first thing I guessed it was, but that doesn't explain why it works just fine in 3dMark06. I've also tried it with the onboard soundcard disabled and the X-Fi removed and uninstalled, to see if it was a sound issue, and that didn't do anything.

Quite simple, you have a p35 mobo, the bandwidth of the second pci_e lane is only x4 while the first is x16, that means that you'll get somewhat of a boost, but not near where you could be, and that's why people are getting x38 over p35 even though there are reports about long term stability issues

[mascaras]

I went to AMD knowledge base, clicked on HD3850, and there was a link to this hotfix. I guess it is for HD3xx0 series, but they forgot to write it.



i dont think they would forget to write Only the last gen. graphics cards @ best seller :p:


regards

[Truckchase!]

http://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=31715

[Thesavage]

The firefox colour bug is easy to fix simply goto display properties,appearance,effects, font smoothing select ClearType. Also the small square can be closed by exiting the ati control icon on your task/tool bar.

[peterpiper]

Anyone having any luck with multiview with crossfire enabled? When I enable CF second monitor still goes blank. I have one monitor on one 3870 and the second monitor on the second 3870. I found previously that this was the best way to control CF and individual overdrive features.
Oh, I have the white box too...?

[Brother Esau]

Bro. Esau,

I see you are using Powercolor 3870s. I only have one but it has that core 860 limit. Do yours and if so, did you flash them? And if so, did that take care of the problem? My friends Sapphire didn't have the problem, yet the Powercolor tech tells me that all the companies get the same bios from ATI.

thanks


Don't know mate have not really leaned into them yet:D I have a subtle approach I take it easy on hardware and gradually break it in as not to pop the cherry to soon. I don't start with High Voltage approach or high O.C at first I teach it to be a respectful biatch:D then I throw the hammer down:lol:


CATALYST 7.12 Color Bug in Firefox was only present when utilizing one card , but was not present when both were enabled in CROSSFIRE

[peterpiper]

I'm also getting mmloaddrv.exe failed to start on bootup? WTF?

[HKPolice]

The firefox colour bug is easy to fix simply goto display properties,appearance,effects, font smoothing select ClearType. Also the small square can be closed by exiting the ati control icon on your task/tool bar.

Cleartype sucks cuz it makes the fonts bigger.

[TRG]

I'm also getting mmloaddrv.exe failed to start on bootup? WTF?

Same here, I just installed 8.1 and getting 2 MMLoadDrv errors on Vista startup. I'm running Vista 64bit with P5B Deluxe, Q6600 and 3850.

[Syn.]

Same here, I just installed 8.1 and getting 2 MMLoadDrv errors on Vista startup. I'm running Vista 64bit with P5B Deluxe, Q6600 and 3850.

lol did a search for mmloaddrv.exe on google to find out what it is and this thread was the first search result.

Try and see what that exe is.

[peterpiper]

Is it another bug? doesn't happen every time now. But I've also disabled CCC running in Sys Tray..
Apparently the square in the corner of the desktop is an official Bug according to Ati Knowledge Base..

[v0dka]

It's a problem with control center loading. It doesnt decrease performance or anything. You can try to install a newer version of dotnet and install iit again.

[Unbornchild]

Now wassup?! :confused:


1. Brought Overdrive clocks down to standard.
2. Undid Rivatuner fan-setting.
3. Uninstalled ATI drivers from Control Panel/software
4. rebooted
5. Installed Cat 8.1. Deselected Earthism, Steam games offer, ATI registration. ONLY drivers and CCC.

During install: error message "Installshield encountered a problem".
I clicked OK. Installation then proceeded anyway.

6. rebooted.
7. Defragmented
8. Opened CCC > Overdrive > Unlock. Put in the overclocks i was used to. But no matter what i change it to, the TEST button stays greyed out.

9. Uninstalled Cat 8.1.
10. This time, used CCleaner to remove remaining crumbs.
11. rebooted
12. Reinstalled Cat 8.1
13. Opened CCC > Overdrive > Unlock. Again no matter what i change the settings to, the TEST button stays greyed out.
I set it to 855/1246, click Apply.
14. For test, launched 3DMark06. D3D:9 Error during startup.:eek:
15. Reinstalled DirectX9.0c (Nov 2007)
16. defragmented, rebooted
17. For test, launched 3DMark06. Again D3D:9 Error during startup.:eek:
18. Uninstalled Cat 8.1
19. rebooted
20. installed Cat 7.12, no errors, CCC working normally, 3DM06 running like normal, no problem whatsoever.

Wassup??? :confused:

[Brother Esau]

Well CRYSIS is acting up again! This time much much further into the game at after leaving Alien caverns and descending down the mountain it starts to get funky again and now when in Jet fighter I get the save check point game freeze and save game freeze where you need to shut down via task manager:mad:

LOL....This is utterly ridiculous I guess I have to wait until CATALYST 8.2 and Patch 1.2 to be able to finish the bloody game.:down:

[Unbornchild]

Huh?! Crysis never freezes here, nowhere in the game. I played it 3 times now (on Cat 7.12). XP pro.

[Brother Esau]

Well it aint isolated to me thats for sure! There are reports all over the forum of Cysis in game issues:(

[cadaveca]

No issues here in Crysis.

This time let's blame...




*rolls dice*







RAIDCARD!!!


:lol2:

[Unbornchild]

Oh to add i would like to emphasise i play the legal game. I buy all my games.

[STaRGaZeR]

Oh to add i would like to emphasise i play the legal game. I buy all my games.

That doesn't matter here. The copies are exactly the same with the exception of the boot block. So the game instalation is the same. The cracks only bypass the DVD check, nothing else. You will get exact same problems that anyone with an illegal copy of the game.

[Brother Esau]

Where do you get Raid Card from? If it were Raid Card anything (Which its not) then why would these problems not be present during all stages of the game?
Its a driver issue BIOSHOCK jams all the way through on highest setting .....whoops ...RAID CARD........NOT!

[cadaveca]

But the problem is when saving? Writing data to disk?

Did you properly format your RAID after you built it, or did you do a "quick format"?

And, uh, in case you missed it, I was just tossing that out there...looked at you sig, saw nothing odd but the controller, it got chosen. Hence the dice roll...


:lol2:

Can you not see smilies, or what?:stick:

[Brother Esau]

Hey, no need to do quick format on these cards as the regular format is just as fast as a quick format its actually blistering