DualCore monster,INTEL E8500 Presskit review (45NM/6MB,L2,3.16Ghz)

[GTX]

Remebered since '06 conroe born,conroe rushed the world
the end of '06,Intel first released their Quadcore model,QX6700
for all those successly 65nm processors leading AMD.
end of 07,with high-k and metalgate technology,Intel bring us
45nanometre, QX9650,large caches of 12mb shared,3G desktop and quadcore
for the mainstream dualcore,til jan of'08,E8000 family will coming
and forcely on overclock and lower temperature
upcoming intel taking good news for us,E8000 will release this week
and i will show you,what that crazy of E8500.


thanks for intel,E8500 presskit,packed date,Nov.'07..lol
this box sits on intle warehouse too long.
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/a_e8500press0001.png

E8500 45nm, 3.16Ghz,9.5*333,L2 6MB shared
First over 3G desktop core model
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/a_e8500press0003.png

TDP 65w,but for E8500 and 45nm,just need a small sink
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/a_e8500press0004.png
the stockfan just like celerons',but more simple,and only allumin base

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/a_e8500press0006.png
delta 0.6a.
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/a_e8500press0007.png

E8500 default on maximus extreme ,capture the vid is only 1.120v,compare to 65nm
its much lower,doesn't it?, caches, 45nm wolfdae has 24way for shared 6mb L2,65nm conroe
are 16way and 4mb shared.
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/cpzu.png

with default clock of 3.16Ghz,SUPER PI 1M 1.5sec faster than E6850 when OC 3172MHZ
32M more faster.

E8500 Default SUPER PI
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/e85001m.png

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/e850032m.png

[GTX]

LOL...tell me,ur still using e6850 1.3v or X6800 1.4 running 3.6Gmhz clcok,
newer E8500 just needs default vid,1.120v and stable prime 3.6Gmhz
i love that low temperature. really impressived of intel's 45nm


TESTRIG,
AMBIENT TEMP,23°C
INTEL E8500 45NM, 3.16G OC 3.6G, L2 6MB SHARED,
TUNIQ TOWER 120
ASUS MAXIUMUS EXTREME .X38
ADATA DDR3 1900 1GBX2
NVIDIA QUADDRO FX330
HIGH POWER 1000W,
PRIME LOADED,FULL SYSTEM 172W
(measured by Seasonic Power Angel)

E8500 oc 3600mhz 1.12v Priming, loaded 37°C
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/e8500_3600_112v_prime.png


1.256v 4Gmhz Prime,loaded only 43°C
very curious what AMD can do at 1.256V, for e6850 average should be 3.3 to 3.4Gmhz.

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/e8500_4000_125v_prime.png

Pass priming sp2004,other testings will be very easy at this clock.

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/e8500_4000_125v_1m.png

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/e8500_4000_125v_32m.png

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/e8500_4000_125v_3d.png


no problem with 500fsb and ddr3-2000
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/e8500_4000_8x500_32mc7.png

a monster chip for aircooling? 1.40v overclock 4.5Gmhz and passed SUPER PI 32M
the idle temp just 5 to 12°c higher than ambient temp.
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/e8500_4500_9n2x474_32m.png

[Kallenator]

Do want!!! :D

Can't wait to get my hands on one of those babies!

[Garrett]

OMG.... 4.5ghz on 1.4v :slobber:
I guess I'm getting one ASAP :up:

[madtorn]

this is realy bad news for amd
i hope this dosnt mean that intel is gona have a monoply on cpu
sry for my english

[LennyRhys]

Just wow... I want one! :D

[nick2crete]

Now the big dilemma...:D ...this or the Q9550 ?...:yepp:

[dinos22]

lol
nice work hicookie
any more samples you got laying around? :D

[smsmasters]

Nice low voltage clocks :o My e6600 needs 1.432V for 400x9 lol

[dogsx2]

Thanks for the show. :toast:

DC is better for me then QC any day. :D

[fgw]

would be interested if this 8500 works also in a good old 965 or 975 motherboard as most of them are capable of running 1333 already.

would you mind give it a try?

[dinos22]

DC is better for me then QC any day. :D

i agree
so much more fun :D :D

[Brian MP5T]

Awesome, It's cool to see the Cooler get smaller with power consumption..

[GTX]

not set much pll with my chip , afraid to kill it, pll is 1.8v
with 1.47v before vdrooping, on GA-X48T DQ6 4621mhz Passed PI 32m,
need telling to all mobo makers,they should fix the dividers for E8000
with high fsb,limits the dividers on x48 chipsets.
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/4621m1.png

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/540c6h7m32.png

[tet5uo]

SImply amazing chips!

My conroe needs 1.5vCore for 3.6gHz !!:rofl:

[dinos22]

FSB looks healthy

this could be 600Mhz chip on LN2 :D :up:

9.5*600 = 5700

get that 10L dewar filled ASAP! :D

i want hot chicks hahahah :p: i love hicookie

[GTX]

FSB looks healthy

this could be 600Mhz chip on LN2 :D :up:

9.5*600 = 5700

get that 10L dewar filled ASAP! :D

i want hot chicks hahahah :p: i love hicookie

lol,everyone love hot chicks,ehehehe, asking tim, next time to taiwan
i'll bring you and open your eyes..opps,don't bring ur gf..lol

[dinos22]

lol,everyone love hot chicks,ehehehe, asking tim, next time to taiwan
i'll bring you and open your eyes..opps,don't bring ur gf..lol

my wife you mean :rofl:

[Spawne32]

a monster chip for aircooling? 1.40v overclock 4.5Gmhz and passed SUPER PI 32M
the idle temp just 5 to 12°c higher than ambient temp.
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/e8500_4500_9n2x474_32m.png

whats the super pi 1m time like at that speed?

[elgoog]

orthos/prime stable at 4.5ghz +?

i really don't see quads becoming useful (at least for gaming) in the near future, a quad will only beat a 4.5ghz + dc in some benchmarks

[adamsleath]

look at the tiny stock h.sink...totally impressive low voltage/heat.:clap::up: intel strikes again. delicious....& more cache.

[Envydia007]

I am thinking of thrashing my Q6600 and get this, can I 24/7 4.5GHz with 1.4V? I guess I need a better RAM to achieve this OC?

[GTX]

whats the super pi 1m time like at that speed?

that will be around 10.25s,sub fsb540, i can choose higher memeory of dividers,
ran with 543fsb,5621mhz,the divider only let me choose 5:6, 5:8 can ran 1m
but not stable 32m,i think that's motherboard makers need to fix the compatible
with highfsb and high memory on x48.

[GTX]

I am thinking of thrashing my Q6600 and get this, can I 24/7 4.5GHz with 1.4V? I guess I need a better RAM to achieve this OC?

for 24/7 prime 4500mhz needs 1.43v,no need the high end RAM,u can back to 965P & ddr2,but i suggest P35 or x48,for value ddr3-1300 or ddr2 micron D9.

[Nate P.]

Awesome chip, but it looks like the stock cooler sucks ass... but honestly, who cares? Who here at XS uses the stock cooler anyways?

[Envydia007]

stock coolers are for stock clocks

[TMonte]

Crap, I was afraid of this...looks like I'm upgrading sooner than later. Hope the wife understands. :rofl:

[Nate P.]

stock coolers are for stock clocks
That's true, but it kinda seems Intel went cheap on this one.:shrug:

[SiGfever]

Very impressive, I like the vid = 1.05v in the Core Temp display, amazing. :clap: :clap:

[adamsleath]

the pt is that it only needs an eeny weeny cooler at stock or near enuf...use your existing intel cooler if you need a bigger one :lol: i have one in the cupboard teehee

[GTX]

somewhere is selling E8000 today...taiwan and australia as i know..so soon

[elgoog]

That's true, but it kinda seems Intel went cheap on this one.:shrug:

why pay for something you won't use anyway?

[Dumo]

Thanks for the show. :toast:

DC is better for me then QC any day. :DThis is it dogsx2:D
I'll get ES version soon:)

Nice chip there GTX:up:

[-n7-]

Brilliant!

[Garrett]

Crap, I was afraid of this...looks like I'm upgrading sooner than later. Hope the wife understands. :rofl:
Hahaha yeah, know what you mean, although I'm not married (yet) lol... somehow she always finds out when I bought something new... ah well it's a hobby, and that costs money right? :up:
Just wondering if I need to replace this 680i board (P5N32-E SLI) or not... I know I have to update my sig...

[naokaji]

[QUOTE=GTX;2682900]http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/a_e8500press0006.png[QUOTE]

crazy how good those 45nm intel chips are if such a crappy cooler can keep them safe.... i mean i used bigger coolers in the s370 days

[clon22]

Hope they come in soon. :D
Can't wait to get one! :D

[GTX]

retail coming:)

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500retail/e8500a001.png

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500retail/e8500a002.png

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500retail/e8500a003.png

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500retail/e8500a004.png

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500retail/e8500a005.png

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500retail/e8500a006.png

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500retail/e8500a007.png

[HeadOn]

Are you going to test the retail chip as well? :D

[GTX]

Are you going to test the retail chip as well? :D

:D i'll, look at the pack date before xmas, and max 1.225v for 45nm..lol
remeber 65nm always written 1.35v, 45nm sure has lower vid:)

[dogsx2]

This is it dogsx2:D
I'll get ES version soon:)

Nice chip there GTX:up:

Lucky, I know you'll treat it gently. :D

After all the work it took to oc 939.... this almost seem too easy.

[Victorshen]

my wife you mean :rofl:

:D Dino shall stay with Mrs... I go there for you for no extra charge ROFL:rofl:

[lukas69]

Incredible CPU ...arrive Retail? when you think is in stock ?

[Shocker003]

Well i presume this chip was hand picked for the press(INTEL E8500 Presskit review):shakes: . I hope all the other chips will equally run on stock 1.12v.
Pls. can you give us more datas to dream about like how far it can overclock with voltage and temp.:up:

[dinos22]

Well i presume this chip was hand picked for the press(INTEL E8500 Presskit review):shakes: . I hope all the other chips will equally run on stock 1.12v.
Pls. can you give us more datas to dream about like how far it can overclock with voltage and temp.:up:

this one is cherry picked

so far i haven't seen anyone prime at 4Ghz with only 1.25v with a dual core

but when we find those good steppings they should be the same or even better :D

[systemviper]

Crap, I was afraid of this...looks like I'm upgrading sooner than later. Hope the wife understands. :rofl:

Oh no, here we go again, common ebay, what can i selll;;;;;;;:clap:

[naokaji]

this one is cherry picked

so far i haven't seen anyone prime at 4Ghz with only 1.25v with a dual core

but when we find those good steppings they should be the same or even better :D

just give it more volts:up:

that one might be cherry picked, but people can get lucky and get a good one too, besides, its just the start, i mean look at the improvement of q6600 b3 to g0, i'm sure intel will improve them even further.

[KiD0M4N]

this one is cherry picked

so far i haven't seen anyone prime at 4Ghz with only 1.25v with a dual core

but when we find those good steppings they should be the same or even better :D

Yup, 4G at 1.25V is truely Phenomenal :)

[Origin_Unknown]

Now the big dilemma...:D ...this or the Q9550 ?...:yepp:

same here

Nice low voltage clocks :o My e6600 needs 1.432V for 400x9 lol

mine needs 1.6 :(

SImply amazing chips!

My conroe needs 1.5vCore for 3.6gHz !!:rofl:

1.6 :(

for 24/7 prime 4500mhz needs 1.43v,no need the high end RAM,u can back to 965P & ddr2,but i suggest P35 or x48,for value ddr3-1300 or ddr2 micron D9.

what about ddr2 800 ;)

[Zeus]

GTX, please show us how that retail version does. :)

[wyemarn]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-wolfdale.html

Xbit just reviewed these chips. The low VID is just amazing. I think 4ghz is possible with stock coolers.

[393]

Sorry for my ignorance.... but what is the 3G mentioned in the OP as a first?

[Origin_Unknown]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-wolfdale.html

Xbit just reviewed these chips. The low VID is just amazing. I think 4ghz is possible with stock coolers.

from the above And taking into account that Intel is going to sell the new solutions for the price of Core 2 Duo E6850, E6750 and E6550, we can all get “free” performance improvement of 10-15% on new Intel dual-core CPUs.

wow, that means its like £170 !

[naokaji]

from the above And taking into account that Intel is going to sell the new solutions for the price of Core 2 Duo E6850, E6750 and E6550, we can all get “free” performance improvement of 10-15% on new Intel dual-core CPUs.

wow, that means its like £170 !

not really intels fault that no big retailers exist in the uk and that there are only 2 -3 online shops that actually stock a decent selection of up to date hardware......

but yep, for us it will be same rip off as ever

[OBR]

i have retail E8200, E8500 ... complete review this friday ...

[Origin_Unknown]

my ( ! ) wasnt because i thought it was expensive but i think it's reasonable

[GTX]

retail directly went to nitrogen
but,no luck ,my retail hates FSB...:shakes:
and thanks for gigabyte fix the divider problem with their new bios
just released 5hours ago,the performance is nice

SUPER PI 1M ，8.625
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500retail/8625.png

SUPER PI 32M，8分49
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500retail/849.png

[Origin_Unknown]

wonder how they perform under water?

[kberguy1]

wonder how they perform under water?

I have been waiting to get a new processor for quite a while. In the meantime, I have upgraded to Corsair Domonator PC-9136 memory and the required parts for my first water cooling system.

It will be interesting to push things a bit with my new gear, but I am ultimately going to be very happy if I can achieve 4 GHz stable 24 hr Prime 95 performance while quieting my system down a bit (currently have 7 fans in case, so it gets a bit too noisy sometimes).

[strange|ife]

very tempting. what is retail price on these

[ante_ante]

Any stores in europe that have preorder on these E8X00 cpus ?? Really want one now :)

[lukas69]

Withe Box is only for press?
retail arrive before end this month?

[Jacky]

I wonder why there is no unlocked dual core from Intel? Wouldn't they sell nicely for 300-400$? (ln dream isn't it?)

Btw 1.43v@4.5ghz prime stable, what cooling was it, it seems I overlooked it...

[De1337]

This is crazy...

AMD really needs to step up soon

[trans am]

This is the highest binned c2d 45nm./ I'm thinking the 80.00 price diff over the 8400 is justified. :slobber: the extra .5 multi is going to make all the difference if you want to eliminate any issues with running high fsb. This is my next chip. :slobber: nice review! / PREVIEW

[sdsdv10]

Sorry for my ignorance.... but what is the 3G mentioned in the OP as a first?

393, I believe the OP meant this will be the first retail 45nm CPU with a stock frequency over 3GHz (it's actually 3.16GHz [=333*9.5]).

[dinos22]

got a couple of boxes today :D


http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1729/img00002tp8.jpg


http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7043/img00001iz5.jpg

[fireice2]

@dinos

where do you guys get these? Just got rid of my E6700. :D Need a new procone bad.

[dinos22]

Australian retailers are selling the CPUs now :)

[fireice2]

waaaa!!! When will these ones come to out place. :(

[labs23]

Australian retailers are selling the CPUs now :)

I want to go to Aussie right now!:shrug:

[LagunaX]

Australian ebayers are also selling in ebay usa. Shipping is steep though.

[LiViD]

I'm looking very forward to having these E8 series processors come out in Canada. I'm just wondering if there will be any benefits from switching out my E6850 to an E8400, other than reduced TDP?

[wyemarn]

I'm looking very forward to having these E8 series processors come out in Canada. I'm just wondering if there will be any benefits from switching out my E6850 to an E8400, other than reduced TDP?


Lower power consumption
Lower temps
More overclocking headroom (4Ghz+)
More performance per clock
SSE4 support

I would suggest you to move to quad core Q9xxx series because I don't think you will notice much difference other than lower temps and power consumptions.

[LiViD]

I was considering a Q9xxx, but I really have no need for Quad Core at this time. Only so few apps and games take advantage of it, and it's an ePe*is extension for most users as of now. :P

[Den Leiw]

Alternate has them on preorder, price in € seems almost same as in $


E8200 164€ (http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?articleId=234289)

E8400 184€ (http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?articleId=234283)

E8500 264€ (http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?articleId=234281)

Q9300 264€ (http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?articleId=234279)

Q9450 309€ (http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?articleId=234277)

Q9550 509 € (http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?articleId=234017)

[Origin_Unknown]

Alternate has them on preorder, though the € price is quite high compared to $


E8200 164€ (http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?articleId=234289)

E8400 184€ (http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?articleId=234283)

E8500 264€ (http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?articleId=234281)

the e8500 is £199 converted, if they are more when they are released over here then ill just get one imported in

[aldave]

dang that cooler is small, my chipset cooler is almost as big as it 0.o

[GTX]

lol, foolish intel guy, who desing the HSF for press,
it doesn't compate for all the motherboard,due to the cube base
so, retail's HSF is different with press, to avoid this problem.

http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/P1110081.png

[T_M]

LOL you have got to wonder how some people get a job

[dinos22]

ROFL what a bunch of dumbasses hahahah

[vcp-cur]

what about E8400 ?

its cheaper but does it OC just as well? maybe not 4.5 Ghz but will it do 4ghz on lets say a Zalman9700 hsf ?

[dinos22]

what about E8400 ?

its cheaper but does it OC just as well? maybe not 4.5 Ghz but will it do 4ghz on lets say a Zalman9700 hsf ?

easily

on OCAU we are seeing people priming at 4.5GHz with both E8500 and E8400 :up: they get toasty at those speeds and volts so not a good idea for 24/7

[p0tter]

h0ly sh!


Pricing?

[DJSUB]

same here pricing @ australia?

thanks :)

[adamsleath]

e8400 will be the new darling
best price ive seen for e8400 is $239 aud at itestate.
http://www.itestate.com.au/products_detail.asp?code=PD00005273

why havent i ordered one?

cos i think i want a quad.

[DJSUB]

e8400 will be the new darling
best price ive seen for e8400 is $239 aud at itestate.

why havent i ordered one?

cos i think i want a quad.

can u post a link? :D

[adamsleath]

pcmaniacs have them instock i think
http://pcmaniacs.com.au/intel-core-e8400-30ghz-2x3mb-cache-45nm-1333fsb-p-4151.html@$265aud

itestate doest say whether in stock or not...

http://www.itsky.com.au/catalog/partdetail.aspx?partno=INT-CPU-13040 $249 stock level: ?

http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=e8400 - staticice search

[DJSUB]

thanks bro ;)
where did you see the 239aud? :)

[DJSUB]

ah ok sorry :D

[GTX]

with 1.120v default 3.16ghz,loaded is 31w
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/gax48tdq6des/2.png

0.99v 3.16ghz, is 23w loaded:D
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/gax48tdq6des/12.png

sorry,gigaybte's DES can't work with overclock
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/cpu/e8500press/gax48tdq6des/3.png

i also measure the watts with seasonic's powerangel, with same 1.12v, 3.6ghz gets same watts as default 3.16ghz.

[DJSUB]

i need to get one asap ;)

[Spawne32]

is anyone able to get some SIS sandra home arithmetic benchmarks for MIPS and MFLOPS?

[TheOnlyBaD]

im looking forward for the new E8400 in italy does somebody know where can i buy it? in italy i mean

[vcp-cur]

1 Australian dollar = 0.8827 U.S. dollars

[QWIDGYBO]

WOW...just wow...
I think I'll pass on the new quads and get a nice cheap E8400 to hold me over till Nehalem...

[Infa]

Dinos22 :) want to see some retails results now ;)

they are only 9 days from release now..

regards.

[trans am]

Its Friday! wasn't one of our members going to post a 45nm retail chip review today?
Where is it?

[fireice2]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=172882

Here ya go.

[godsfist]

Dinos22 :) want to see some retails results now ;)

they are only 9 days from release now..

regards.I wouldn't get too excited, retails look crap

[eva2000]

Dinos22 :) want to see some retails results now ;)

they are only 9 days from release now..

regards.
same batch as dinos

Wprime v1.55 32M and 1024M @4503Mhz 1.512v idle/1.504v load

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Blitzformula/results/dtekfuzion/E8500_Q740A493T_09/crucial/8500t_rs/9.5x/533/474-474_55515_A42AAA_1.5375-1.5-1.67-2.14-1.225-1.5/wprime155_load.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Blitzformula/results/dtekfuzion/E8500_Q740A493T_09/crucial/8500t_rs/9.5x/533/474-474_55515_A42AAA_1.5375-1.5-1.67-2.14-1.225-1.5/wprime155_32m_1024m.png

Systool Dual 32M PI @4503Mhz 1.512v idle/1.504v load

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Blitzformula/results/dtekfuzion/E8500_Q740A493T_09/crucial/8500t_rs/9.5x/533/474-474_55515_A42AAA_1.5375-1.5-1.67-2.14-1.225-1.5/systool_dual32m_load.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Blitzformula/results/dtekfuzion/E8500_Q740A493T_09/crucial/8500t_rs/9.5x/533/474-474_55515_A42AAA_1.5375-1.5-1.67-2.14-1.225-1.5/systool_dual32m.png

SetFSB my way to 4602Mhz at 1.504v load for Wprime v1.55 32M!

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Blitzformula/results/dtekfuzion/E8500_Q740A493T_09/crucial/8500t_rs/9.5x/533/484-484_55515_A42AAA_1.5375-1.5-1.67-2.14-1.225-1.5/cpuz_valid.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Blitzformula/results/dtekfuzion/E8500_Q740A493T_09/crucial/8500t_rs/9.5x/533/484-484_55515_A42AAA_1.5375-1.5-1.67-2.14-1.225-1.5/wprime155_32m.png

[Infa]

Looks like the other one that got reallyyyy bad E8200 and 8400... this takes my hope up again , thanks :)

[Yukon Trooper]

Wow. Buh bye AMD.

[AriciU]

In the end it's all about luck. Or making your own luck by testing multiple CPU's :P I've seen an 8500 screen, orthos stable for one hour @ 4200 @ 1.37v so i still have high hopes to catch one that can do 4.5 @ reasonable vcore.