View Full Version : AMD or INTEL read the setups before you choose!
p00sh!t
08-07-2003, 01:44 AM
Ok well I want a good gaming rig thats gonna be able to run games for a bit so choose the best outta these 2 setups.
AMD XP 2700 @ 2.65 - 2.05 volts - 37celcius load
NF7-S (vantec iceberq on NB and vantec iceberq SB, tweakmonster BGA sinks on mosfets)
SLK900u + 92mm Tornado
1024mb Hyperx 3500
2x 120gb WD SATA 8mb cache in raid-0
some brand of 9800pro 256mb with a pure copper cpu heatsink + 16 BGA sinks
Extra 65$
or
P4 2.4c
ic7-max3
SLK900u + 92mm tornado
512mb ocz pc4000 dc
1x 120gb WD SATA 8mb cache
some brand of 9800pro 256mb with a pure copper cpu heatsink + 16 BGA sinks
I just wanna know which one will be better for gaming, higher fps faster loads and overall gaming quality, moreso for newer & future games, like HL2/DOOM3
Id be inclined to go Intel, 800MHz FSB rules if you can afford it and its going to have a 9800 anyway so you should be fine with the Intel setup.
Craig
Ruantic
08-07-2003, 03:01 AM
Definately the Intel Package.. If Abit has it right this time and Intel doesn't change the prescott specs you should have an upgrade path, the AMD is a dead end and has no upgrade path :( Then you have to consider the Intel is the better performer right now..
Kalway
08-08-2003, 10:01 AM
CCW and Ruantic are mostly right. However, the 800mhz fsb really doesn't do as much as Intel says it does. Our labs have proven the P4 is just a mhz hungry monster since it's so damn inefficient (just like the intel chipsets :) ). Usually I'd say go AMD but next month the athlon 64 is debuting and we'll finally have a taste of something new from AMD...
Right now I'm not buying the hype of the Prescott, unless Intel has finally improved the P4 design to do more work per cycle. It'll probably also be hot as hell and isn't using SOI so the Athlon will finally be cooler than the P4 for once.
KennethChong
08-08-2003, 10:11 AM
If your going for a gaming box, go with intel :)
Kalway
08-08-2003, 10:54 AM
I'm going to have to say wait it out a month. Right now really isn't the time to upgrade when new processors are around the corner. Usually I'm not one to say wait on upgrading but it's too close to a new release to not wait. Seeing as AMD just released Opteron at 2ghz we've got something to look forward to from them and if Prescott meets up to half of the hype it's getting we might see something there too. It's all within a couple of months so save your pennies and wait out a little longer since you want to play games that aren't even released yet.
KennethChong
08-08-2003, 11:00 AM
All that hype about doom 3 is so much bs i cant stand it. I see what your saying but im also just sick of people saying that doom 3 and hf2 are going to need monster machines. There is no way they would relese a game that only the very powerfull computers can play. Man, there isnt even going to be a prob playing those games with a ti card once they optimize it, if they did that, it would be suicide, because most people wont be using anything close to a high end box.
Kunaak
08-08-2003, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by KennethChong
All that hype about doom 3 is so much bs i cant stand it. I see what your saying but im also just sick of people saying that doom 3 and hf2 are going to need monster machines. There is no way they would relese a game that only the very powerfull computers can play. Man, there isnt even going to be a prob playing those games with a ti card once they optimize it, if they did that, it would be suicide, because most people wont be using anything close to a high end box.
never were true-er words spoken :D
They wont be able to afford to release it if it only runs on a high spec PC. Look at the minimum specs on any game released. They are always too low, they want to seel more copies and they need to to keep the industry alive with so much piracy.
Craig
p00sh!t
08-08-2003, 04:55 PM
but I just sold my OLD amd rig for like 300$ (some guy gave me a bit too much lol)
So I coudl just buy a new proc/mobo/ram/vid card
MrLavender
08-09-2003, 06:15 AM
If money is not an issue I'd get the Intel just for the 3dMark01 scores. :D
In the real world the difference is going to be minimal, both systems will easily handle any game for quite a while to come.
AMD XP 2700 @ 2.65 - 2.05 volts - 37celcius load37C load on air? I very much doubt it unless you live in the Artic. My 1700+ runs the same speed/volts and it's well over 40C load on water. And that's with the Abit "temp=temp-10" bios. ;)
Must be a dodgy sensor and that obviously isnt a core temp, thats an in socket reading.
Craig
go with the intel i have the same system but the ic7 instead of the ic7 max mb. i get 3300mhz at 110 fsb all day long everyday out of it. now the amd rig is also nice but i still would own the intel rig over that amd set up... good luck hope you make the right choice?
later perc,
p00sh!t
08-09-2003, 05:22 PM
hmm nope not a dodgy sensor, just really really cold here, 4 degrees in my room
texuspete00
08-10-2003, 05:53 PM
I so agree with chong, sick of hearing doom this and hl2 that. I posted a lot about it at hardocp where some guy asked for what must have been the millionith time. I look forward to actually having hardware break a sweat. As far as bringing it to its knees, I;m sure our systems will be hiding in the corner..... and joe sixpack won't be able to play it well for a year- year and a half or so. Nope. Nothing against the original poster because he just mentioned it. Some busier forums though, what video card for doom3.... I dunno buy something good and it will work good, upgrading for a game - I think we're well ahead of the curve. I step off my soapbox now.
DarKcyde
08-10-2003, 11:23 PM
You guys are thinking too much about 3dmark "my schlong is bigger" contests. Intel is great for that right now. But for real world difference... there's hardly any. In fact, in UT2k3 (the only bench I'd bother looking at if you want real world gaming on a recent engine) amd keeps up w/ intel just fine, even now that intel is winning in just about everything else.
Another thing you all missed is the ram and HD's on the AMD rig. For equal game performance, he gets double the ram and HD space. I wouldnt buy a gaming rig w/ anything less than 1 GB ram right now. Some games flat out require 512 now.... and if they need that much, u dont wanna be playing with only that.
If you absolutely need to buy one of those rigs right now, go with the AMD.
Penti
08-11-2003, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Kalway
I'm going to have to say wait it out a month. Right now really isn't the time to upgrade when new processors are around the corner. Usually I'm not one to say wait on upgrading but it's too close to a new release to not wait. Seeing as AMD just released Opteron at 2ghz we've got something to look forward to from them and if Prescott meets up to half of the hype it's getting we might see something there too. It's all within a couple of months so save your pennies and wait out a little longer since you want to play games that aren't even released yet.
Opteron is a server cpu anyway. It would be wiser to wait for the high-end A64's and buy, it will be faster then 246 allso.
walaka7
08-13-2003, 06:52 AM
with the $$ you save by building a "slower" AMD rig, you get to spend more $$ on whats actually needed in gaming: RAM, hdds (gotta RAID 0 :) ), and VIDEO. I think $ for $ that intel has very little on AMD when it comes to gaming.
MrLavender
08-13-2003, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by DarKcyde
You guys are thinking too much about 3dmark "my schlong is bigger" contests. Well I did say "if money is not an issue". If it's not you might as well have the biggest schlong IMHO. :D
Otherwise you're right of course.
Spider
08-14-2003, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by DarKcyde
You guys are thinking too much about 3dmark "my schlong is bigger" contests. Intel is great for that right now. But for real world difference... there's hardly any. In fact, in UT2k3 (the only bench I'd bother looking at if you want real world gaming on a recent engine) amd keeps up w/ intel just fine, even now that intel is winning in just about everything else.
Another thing you all missed is the ram and HD's on the AMD rig. For equal game performance, he gets double the ram and HD space. I wouldnt buy a gaming rig w/ anything less than 1 GB ram right now. Some games flat out require 512 now.... and if they need that much, u dont wanna be playing with only that.
If you absolutely need to buy one of those rigs right now, go with the AMD. anything over 512mb ram is overkill for games