Q6600 or 6750 for gaming

[malik22]

Hi guys


Im building a new gaming rig what cpu would be better the Q6600G0 or 6750 im going to oce which ever one I get it will go with 3870 in crossfire on a x38 board or 8800gt in sli on a 780 board.I know most games dont support quads right now but im leaning towards the qaud for future games.

[systemviper]

I love my Q6600, they overclock so sweet

[Spoudazo]

Q6600, 4 cores, and it overclocks wonderfully. :)

[AC3421]

Q6600. Stock speeds it rips through anything there is.

[AliG]

definitely q6600, without a doubt, the e6750 is a crap cpu for ocing compared to the e6850 and q6600, apparently just about all the 1333fsb dual cores are crap for ocing except the e6850 which ocs like a mother (really have no idea why that is, my guess is intel's binning setup is designed to make all e6850's great chips but the cpus that don't pass go to the e6750 and e6550 etc)

The q6600 is a great cpu if you get a g0, they run moderately cool (compared to b3's definitely cool but kentsfield is still hot compared to conroes), oc well and are great performers. Only reasons I would say not to get one for gaming would be because the e6850 will oc higher on less cooling, runs cooler, consumes less power etc and most games don't support 4 cores yet.

You'll see a lot of the q6600's advantages outside of gaming such as video editing etc. And multitasking will be amazing, you could probably run a virus scan and decode a dvd while playing a game without noticing any lag at all if you set the affinities correctly

[malik22]

Thx for the responses how about 8800gt sli vs 3870 crossfire what do you think is better I know with 3870 in crossfire with a x38 i will use less power meaning less heat cause im on air.And i didnt meantion the e6850 cause its the same price as the Q6600 in my country so 4 cores would still be better for the same price.

[odditory]

Hi guys


Im building a new gaming rig what cpu would be better the Q6600G0 or 6750 im going to oce which ever one I get it will go with 3870 in crossfire on a x38 board or 8800gt in sli on a 780 board.I know most games dont support quads right now but im leaning towards the qaud for future games.

Wait for the Q9450 45nm chip coming in January. Also I'd get an EVGA 780i board if I were you (I just got mine and added my third 8800GTX today - wow). I wouldn't buy anything ATI unless you are REALLY on a budget and don't need to play the latest games. If you don't mind not having room for expansion with 2 x crossfire'd ATI cards costing the same as a single high-end Nvidia card, then that's another consideration. Personally I'd spend the extra and get a high-end single Nvidia and have room to grow it to SLI as prices come down (just like it's worth it to me to spend a little extra like $250 for a 1 Terabyte harddrive rather than $110 a piece for 2 x 500GB harddrives). Capiche? ATI cards are targeted at the demographic that are still using their allowance to buy computer hardware..

[malik22]

Wait for the Q9450 45nm chip coming in January. Also I'd get an EVGA 780i board if I were you (I just got mine and added my third 8800GTX today - wow). I wouldn't buy anything ATI unless you are REALLY on a budget and don't need to play the latest games. If you don't mind not having room for expansion with 2 x crossfire'd ATI cards costing the same as a single high-end Nvidia card, then that's another consideration. Personally I'd spend the extra and get a high-end single Nvidia and have room to grow it to SLI as prices come down (just like it's worth it to me to spend a little extra like $250 for a 1 Terabyte harddrive rather than $110 a piece for 2 x 500GB harddrives). Capiche? ATI cards are targeted at the demographic that are still using their allowance to buy computer hardware..


I would wait but I need a pc now i sold my old parts and for getting a highend nvida like a 8800gtx in my country I can get two 3870 or 8800gt and still have extra money to put on a mobo.And im on a budget between 3870 8800 two 3870 would still be cheaper then two 8800gt.And I dont see why two 3870 cant play the latest games.

[CERO]

no point getting a E6750 atm, grab the Q6600 or 1 of those promising wolfdales very soon.

[AliG]

Thx for the responses how about 8800gt sli vs 3870 crossfire what do you think is better I know with 3870 in crossfire with a x38 i will use less power meaning less heat cause im on air.And i didnt meantion the e6850 cause its the same price as the Q6600 in my country so 4 cores would still be better for the same price.

3870 xfire. Both 680i and 780i are CRAP, especially since 780i uses the same crap 680i northbridge. Not to mention, crossfire scales far better than sli, the 3870 xfire vs 8800gt sli tests show the 3870 setup beating the gt setup more than half the time which is really quite amazing considering how in single card tests the 8800gt spanks the 3870. Not to mention, x38 is an amazing northbridge, I would get an asus maximus se and two 3870s once prices settle, you'll be happy you did


as for the q9450, if you plan to do any ocing, I wouldn't get it, the 7.5 mult will definitely hold you back, the q6600 will go higher just because most quads won't hit above 450 fsb consistantly (and that's on p35/x38, its around 400 for 680i)

[CERO]

Yea it is 8 multi, but still I dont see any point getting it, since if I get one of these I expect at least 4.0ghz..... this means 500fsb Quad core makes me wonder if that would work..... only the QX9650 is appealing for me but the price tag is just to high for me lol xD

[Ethelred]

I wouldn't buy anything ATI unless you are REALLY on a budget and don't need to play the latest games... Personally I'd spend the extra and get a high-end single Nvidia and have room to grow it to SLI as prices come down...Capiche? ATI cards are targeted at the demographic that are still using their allowance to buy computer hardware..

That's a really uneducated thing to say.

Really? That's like saying the only reason people buy fords rather than a BMW is because they're poor...when in fact many people like Fords more than BMW.

Malik, SLI motherboards are expensive and overclock like crap...if you want to do SLI/Crossfire I would definitely go with Crossfire as you can have an Intel board (overclock as well as longevity). However, it is your call really. The 3870s in crossfire are performing in most cases about the same as a Ultra, the price should be coming down a bit as well as new cards being released January. The 3870 can play the latest games fine and CF can play them perfectly. Odditory is just trolling it, disregard him. Odditory = Fanboy

Personally I like one strong card and the option to expand later...the thing is in most cases by the time you want to expand on a 680 or 780 your board may be crap, if you overclock...just something to consider. Go out there and read the reviews on the cards you want and weigh the pros/cons of both SLI/Crossfire they both have their thing.

[Lev]

a lot of games dont have crossfire support atm, many many more have sli support

imo sli > crossfire but performance wise when both cars DO work crossfire is better then sli

imho dont go either.. just get an 8800gts 512mb.

[malik22]

a lot of games dont have crossfire support atm, many many more have sli support

imo sli > crossfire but performance wise when both cars DO work crossfire is better then sli

imho dont go either.. just get an 8800gts 512mb.


But two 3870 will be faster then a 8800gts 512mb am I right?

[S1mon-]

Yup

[malik22]

Thx for all your help everyone Ive decided to go the 3870 CF route since I wont be upgrading to the 45mn quad my next build will probabley be when intel launch there 8core cpu and new socket in 2009.So is a x38 really necessary or would a 975 intebadaxe2 be good enough for a Q6600 for ocing im only asking cause my local store has some for really cheap.The rest of my build is 4gb of corsair 6400 4 4 4 12 and a TTtoughpower 700watts that I already have including HD and dvdr.

[D4rkn3ss]

cpu for games?? pff it doesn't matter what cpu.. any dual core or above does the job.. unless you play 3dmark and super_pi :rofl:

[Spoudazo]

cpu for games?? pff it doesn't matter what cpu.. any dual core or above does the job.. unless you play 3dmark and super_pi :rofl:

No, there is a noticeable different in Unreal Engine 3 games between a dual-core and quad-core (in most of them, like MOH:A, Roboblitz, UT3, etc). My last CPU was an e6400 Core 2 Duo@3.4ghz, and even at stock speeds, my quad-core had an advantage in several UE3 games. :)

However, in some games it won't matter that much. ;)

[malik22]

Any suggestions on my last question.

[Zytek_Fan]

But two 3870 will be faster then a 8800gts 512mb am I right?

Yes, they will be.


CrossFire is great when support is there for the game, and most games available now support CrossFire, so no worries. If there is some games that don't have CF support, the issue is always addressed in Catalyst releases :)

[malik22]

Does anyone have any suggestion two my last question.

[Pudi]

So is a x38 really necessary or would a 975 intebadaxe2 be good enough for a Q6600 for ocing im only asking cause my local store has some for really cheap.

I know Q6600 doesn't need so high FSB to get a good OC, but 975 is a thing of the past, so I would go for any X38 based mobo of your choice.

[malik22]

Ok pudi thx responding should i get the asus P5E or abit qaudgt?

[malik22]

I got all my parts today how can I be sure I have a G0 stepping on the cpu its says Slarc.

[Movieman]

I got all my parts today how can I be sure I have a G0 stepping on the cpu its says Slarc.

That's a G0:up:

[javaman]

thg http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/08/dual_vs_quad/ had a good article which gave good instructions on the g0 stepping. cpu-z cpuid will show the stepping. the article also had some info about the serial number on the cpu.

I was in this similar situation a month ago (3870cf vs 8800gt sli). I actually bought the asus maximus extreme, the 2 3870s, and a deal on 4G ddr2 memory. When I found out the mb only took ddr3, I had to return the MB, and wound up going the 680i route. Returned the video cards too, as I got a much better deal on two 8800gt. Could not justify spending that kind of money on RAM when ddr2 is so cheap.

[malik22]

That's a G0:up:

Thanks Movieman and javaman I know what you mean thats why I got the P5E its still uses ddr2:)

[malik22]

I have one last question i got a freezer pro 7 that I gonna mod remove the stock fan and add a 80cfm fan to it will I have any problems booting since I wont be using the cpu header?

[Yukon Trooper]

Don't get a Q6600 right now. Seeing some new chips real soon!