Barton 2500+ New PCB?

[Hell-Fire]

I got my grubby little hands on a 2500+ today that has a green pcb.....from Malaysia.

The only other green pcb I have owned was with a 1800+ that clocked to 2ghz just fine at stock..but never really got a chance to push it any further since it was for my girls dad.

This one is different however as I can clearly see the circuit paths on both sides of the chip. Maybe its just me, but thats the first time I have been able to see something like that on a cpu.

Also, the bridges have the "dots" very very far apart on this one. Not sure why, but they are a good 2-3x the distance of the standard chip. Also, and heres the tricky part, the "dots" from separate bridges are extrememly close to other bridges.. ie: The bottom "dots" or the L3 bridge are very very close to the top "dots" of the L12 bridge. This would make things extremely touchy if I wanted to blow the 3rd L12 bridge.

I will start the overclocking and let anyone thats interested know what happens and how she does.

[Hell-Fire]

Here is what she did right out of the box: :slobber:

http://www.asmdmohaa.com/uploads/photos/2505MHz.jpg


I didnt want to push to hard as she hasnt been burned in or anything. Also, didnt wanna throw to much vcore at her just yet. But not to bad I think. Beats my other 2500+ by almost 200MHz and I havent even started changing anything yet.

2.5GHz..not bad for a 1.8GHz chip....and dont you 1700+ people start raining on my parade either. :hehe:

[Hell-Fire]

Pfffffft, nevermind...thought maybe I had come across a relatively new thing here...but thats a negative. I came across similiar pics after doing a search.

Wonder why the greenie is like that?

[xxORBxx]

Stepping?

You got a good one :slobber:

[Hell-Fire]

Stepping?

You got a good one :slobber:



Stepping:
AXDA2500DKV4D Y858018250099
AQXEA 0327TPFW


Lets hope she is a good one!!!

[Zeus]

That's another '" Y " chip that goes pretty well.
At what voltage you got this?

[xxORBxx]

I was hoping it was a 9 or something besides a Y, i have a feeling im not gonna get one from newegg :(

[Penti]

Do you mean it has the new 27648 package?

Anyway glad to see that it overclocks good ;)

[T@nker-xXx]

y have de same 0327 and 2303 aircooled at 1.65v with aqua690
41°c ambiant :p barton@68°c

[ztop]

Originally posted by Hëll ‡ Fîrë
Here is what she did right out of the box: :slobber:

http://www.asmdmohaa.com/uploads/photos/2505MHz.jpg


I didnt want to push to hard as she hasnt been burned in or anything. Also, didnt wanna throw to much vcore at her just yet. But not to bad I think. Beats my other 2500+ by almost 200MHz and I havent even started changing anything yet.

2.5GHz..not bad for a 1.8GHz chip....and dont you 1700+ people start raining on my parade either. :hehe:

v-core is ??:slobber:

[st0nedpenguin]

I just got a 1700+ with the exposed tracks, just need my mobo back to see what she'll do, 2.3Ghz @ 1.7v at the moment.

[xxORBxx]

Did you get this chip from newegg?

[st0nedpenguin]

Me?

Mine was from Marci at Over-Clock UK (http://www.over-clock.co.uk), best place to order from if you're a Britlander, great service, and guaranteed steppings.

[edit]
Steppings are guaranteed, not quarantined.:D

[Henry]

Hëll ‡ Fîrë : Cooling ? Vcpre ??

Thanks :)

[Hell-Fire]

Sorry, been busy.

Hëll ‡ Fîrë : Cooling ? Vcpre ??

Thanks


All copper hs and 80mm-80cfm fan. Vcore at 1.7v.

Did you get this chip from newegg?



I got this chip from a local retailer.

v-core is ?? :slobber:
Vcore @ 1.7v

Do you mean it has the new 27648 package?

Anyway glad to see that it overclocks good



Yes, has the 27648 package.

I was hoping it was a 9 or something besides a Y, i have a feeling im not gonna get one from newegg


I have read that the "Y"s clock much better than the "9"s.

That's another '" Y " chip that goes pretty well.
At what voltage you got this?


Vcore @ 1.7v.

[eclypse]

27648 package

WTF is that?? Never heard of it before.. hehe

[Penti]

Originally posted by eclypse
WTF is that?? Never heard of it before.. hehe

Search in the forums it should be some threads about it.
Edit:
I did it for you heres a link where you can see the differns http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13820&highlight=27648
And a bablefish translated page http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.watch.impress.co.jp% 2Fakiba%2Fhotline%2F20030503%2Fetc_27648opga.html&lp=ja_en&tt=url

[Hell-Fire]

Why they gotta start making life harder on us overclockers?

First they are talking retiring the 1700+ which clocks like a mofo (good stepping of course), now messing with the bridges is gonna be a tuffy.

[eclypse]

Thanks Penti!

[texuspete00]

AQXEA 0327TPFW

hehe, that's mine too, dont remeber the top line obviously but i do remember the y though.

:banana: :slobber: :rocker:

Damn watercooler is down and work is busy. Dang.... otherwise, i might have to pull the "I dont feel so good":

[Hell-Fire]

You should get a pretty decent o/c if ya using H20 my friend.

Keep us informed on how she performs once yer back up.

[MrLavender]

Originally posted by Hëll ‡ Fîrë
Vcore @ 1.7v You got a 2500+ that does 2.5GHz @ 1.7v on air? That's a GOOD chip! :slobber:

My AQXEA0327VPMW (also 27648 package) maxes out @ 2.45GHz with 2.1v on water. :(

It's a "9" serial, I gotta get me one of those "Y"'s...

[YoupY]

I have bought a new 2500+ today. It's almost the same as discribed in the first post with one minor differenct, I have another stepping: AQZEA 0327TPBW.

I couldn't run it further then 2300 Mhz but it was extremely hot at that time.

[Hell-Fire]

I have bought a new 2500+ today. It's almost the same as discribed in the first post with one minor differenct, I have another stepping: AQZEA 0327TPBW.


Wow, never seen that stepping before.

You got a 2500+ that does 2.5GHz @ 1.7v on air? That's a GOOD chip!

My AQXEA0327VPMW (also 27648 package) maxes out @ 2.45GHz with 2.1v on water.

It's a "9" serial, I gotta get me one of those "Y"'s...

Maybe its a lucky chip, but then again, it wasnt stable at the speed and Vcore...well, not stable enough for 3DMark or Prime. Was fine to surf web and what not. I am hoping to that speed or greater with a little burn-in time.

I ran Prime95 last night until this morning @ 2.2GHz (11x200) with no errors, and am now running 11x205 as I reply here.

I am planning to break her in a little at a time since I will prob have this chip for next several months...school is starting and cant be blowing up my cpu until I get settled in. :banana:

[MrLavender]

"Burn-in" has never done anything for me. The 1700+ in my sig was at that speed within an hour of putting it in and never got any faster. :)

I guess letting the thermal paste settle may give a few more MHz if you're on the edge heat-wise.

Hmm, www.cpucity.co.uk have AQXEA 0330RPMW's in stock, might have to try one of those...:D

[s e t h]

Originally posted by MrLavender - Hmm, www.cpucity.co.uk have AQXEA 0330RPMW's in stock, might have to try one of those...:D
:eek: week 30! those chips are like 2-3 weeks old :slobber:

[Hell-Fire]

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"Burn-in" has never done anything for me. The 1700+ in my sig was at that speed within an hour of putting it in and never got any faster.

I guess letting the thermal paste settle may give a few more MHz if you're on the edge heat-wise.

Hmm, www.cpucity.co.uk have AQXEA 0330RPMW's in stock, might have to try one of those...



What ya mean "MIGHT HAVE TO TRY ONE OF THOSE..."

Pfffftttt...you should be the first to jump at one and tell us what ya get out of it. Will newer chips clock better, worse, same...let us know if its worth checking em out.

[YoupY]

Originally posted by MrLavender
"Burn-in" has never done anything for me. The 1700+ in my sig was at that speed within an hour of putting it in and never got any faster. :)

I guess letting the thermal paste settle may give a few more MHz if you're on the edge heat-wise.

Hmm, www.cpucity.co.uk have AQXEA 0330RPMW's in stock, might have to try one of those...:D

Strange, since my new 2500+ which I got yesterdag is an AQZEA Stepping. I wonder why they don't use the core in later weeks.

Maybe that this core s*cks.
Yesterday I had the proc running @ 2300 Mhz @ default voltage, but I couldn't get it over the 2500. Moreover it wouldn't boot with other multipliers then 11.

[Hell-Fire]

Did you change the vcore at all when going for 2.5GHz?

[YoupY]

I did, all the way up to 2.09V, but that didn't matter much, but the heat was also a problem yesterday. In my room it was still 32 degrees when I took the s*cker up to the 2500, the proc did 47 degrees.

Today I have ran prime for a while (6 hours) and the temps went up to 53 degrees, so that shouldn't be the problem.

But the weirdest thing was I couldn't select an other mp then 11. Every thing else wouldn't boot at high fsb's

[Hell-Fire]

Very weird...and this is with a 2500+not the 2800+ you have in yer sig?

Maybe you should consider blowing your 3rd L12 bridge...that may help...or use the wire trick.

[s e t h]

Originally posted by YoupY - But the weirdest thing was I couldn't select an other mp then 11. Every thing else wouldn't boot at high fsb's

other multi's work at lower fsb right?

Originally posted by Hëll ‡ Fîrë - Maybe you should consider blowing your 3rd L12 bridge...that may help...

anyone actually tried on the new packaging?

[YoupY]

On lower fsb's other multies work, but I can not run at the speeds I want run, which is at least 2500 Mhz, with a high fsb.

Since I got my cpu yesterday I have not updated my sig. I will not do it, because tomorrow my 2800 is going back my system.

Pitty, because I had high expectations from this cpu. :(

Edit:
does modding the L12 really help on a Barton. I'm hearing different stories on this topic. Eighter way I won't try it, because this one is going back to the store.
My 2800+ is L12 modded, but I'm not realy sure if this helped, because I hadn't my Vdd mod yet.

[MrLavender]

Originally posted by Hëll ‡ Fîrë
What ya mean "MIGHT HAVE TO TRY ONE OF THOSE..."

Pfffftttt...you should be the first to jump at one and tell us what ya get out of it. Will newer chips clock better, worse, same...let us know if its worth checking em out. LOL, you're right I couldn't resist, one is on it's way...:D
Originally posted by flytek
anyone actually tried on the new packaging?Yes I did it on my 0327 2500+, much easier to connect two pins (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?postid=191430#post191430) under the cpu than blow the bridge though. I don't think it's worth trying this on a NF7 v2.0, 166 fsb cpus should work better on them than 133. It's only required for the non-400 Ultra chipsets in the v1.2 and earlier.

Some of the newer cpus do seem to have a problem with multi's, Marci posted a thread about some 1800+ DLT3C's he had in the new package that wouldn't work at any other multi except the default. Haven't seen very many reports of this though. Strange. :confused:

[Garrett]

Originally posted by MrLavender
"Burn-in" has never done anything for me. The 1700+ in my sig was at that speed within an hour of putting it in and never got any faster. :)

I guess letting the thermal paste settle may give a few more MHz if you're on the edge heat-wise.

Hmm, www.cpucity.co.uk have AQXEA 0330RPMW's in stock, might have to try one of those...:D OMG... your 1700+ runs @ 2645Mhz?? :eek: :eek:

What voltage do you feed it? I can't get mine stable over 2450, and that's a 0308 XPMW

[MrLavender]

Originally posted by Garrett
OMG... your 1700+ runs @ 2645Mhz?? :eek: :eek: For 3dMark benches. ;) 2.06v water-cooled.

[Hell-Fire]

Originally posted by MrLavender
LOL, you're right I couldn't resist, one is on it's way...:D
Yes I did it on my 0327 2500+, much easier to connect two pins (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?postid=191430#post191430) under the cpu than blow the bridge though. I don't think it's worth trying this on a NF7 v2.0, 166 fsb cpus should work better on them than 133. It's only required for the non-400 Ultra chipsets in the v1.2 and earlier.

Some of the newer cpus do seem to have a problem with multi's, Marci posted a thread about some 1800+ DLT3C's he had in the new package that wouldn't work at any other multi except the default. Haven't seen very many reports of this though. Strange. :confused:

Well, I run mine at all different multi's depending on what I am trying to do. I will say this....it hates anything in the 10 range.