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pmp
12-14-2007, 12:58 PM
Finally old goofy Santa Claus is coming to town...
ASUS P5E3 Premium:

X48/ICH9R based motherboard. BIOS dumps along with SPI/3D comparison with X38 based P5E3 Deluxe - tommorow.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8107/img2985rz9.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2985rz9.jpg)http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3462/img2987lp9.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2987lp9.jpg)http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4895/img2989dc7.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2989dc7.jpg)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7146/img2990rk6.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2990rk6.jpg)http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1919/img2991rq1.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2991rq1.jpg)http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2895/img2992on5.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2992on5.jpg)



Brought to you by Kielbasa Squad :up:

Fixxxer
12-14-2007, 01:09 PM
I hate its layout.

What about the people that use a Crossfire and 2 PCI cards (audio + ageia)?

DMH
12-14-2007, 01:14 PM
Where is the Rampage Formula/Extreme??Premium it's just like the P5E3 Deluxe

sobih25
12-14-2007, 01:18 PM
Rampage will be top mb for ASUS x48 series. Exactly like blitz for p35 and maximus for x38 series.

Fixxxer
12-14-2007, 01:22 PM
Rampage will be top mb for ASUS x48 series. Exactly like blitz for p35 and maximus for x38 series.

LOL, let's hope NOT! Maximus Formula has great performance, but is pure BS.

SNiiPE_DoGG
12-14-2007, 01:40 PM
I think asus needs a class in motherboard layout, I don't think I've seen an asus board with a good layout since the A8n-SLI

pmp
12-15-2007, 12:22 PM
As promised, performance comparison between X48 and X38.

strap 200:

(X48 on left, X38 on right)

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6587/400x8strap200fs7.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=400x8strap200fs7.jpg) http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3457/x38400x8strap200el5.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x38400x8strap200el5.jpg)

strap 266:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2089/400x8strap266jh2.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=400x8strap266jh2.jpg) http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6391/x38400x8strap266ln3.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x38400x8strap266ln3.jpg)

strap 333:
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9593/400x8strap333lz8.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=400x8strap333lz8.jpg) http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2752/x38400x8strap333wg4.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x38400x8strap333wg4.jpg)

strap 400:
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4897/400x8strap444xy5.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=400x8strap444xy5.jpg) http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/589/x38400x8strap400hz7.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x38400x8strap400hz7.jpg)

express gate :]
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6492/dscn3573ag5.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3573ag5.jpg)

bios:
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5654/dscn3574jv6.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3574jv6.jpg) http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6563/dscn3575at4.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3575at4.jpg) http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5808/dscn3576he8.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3576he8.jpg) http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1944/dscn3577aa8.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3577aa8.jpg)
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6329/dscn3578er9.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3578er9.jpg) http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1261/dscn3579eg8.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3579eg8.jpg) http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1085/dscn3580mx8.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3580mx8.jpg) http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5340/dscn3581on2.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3581on2.jpg)
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9121/dscn3582wb9.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3582wb9.jpg) http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/300/dscn3583rr5.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3583rr5.jpg) http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4431/dscn3584hr6.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3584hr6.jpg)


What is really interesting, is fact that used CPU could do stable FSB500@air, which was not possible on any other board before... hmm...
Any comments are welcome ;)

kup
12-17-2007, 05:54 AM
Any updates on the Rampage boards? I can't find ANYTHING online other than this thread...

pmp
12-17-2007, 06:13 AM
patience is virtue. hope this week i'll update this topic.

kup
12-17-2007, 06:18 AM
Cool cool! How is the P5E3 Premium running? Are you able to maintain 500MHz FSB on the Quad?

traveler
12-17-2007, 11:05 AM
I hate its layout.

What about the people that use a Crossfire and 2 PCI cards (audio + ageia)?


What do you not like about the Maximus Extreme? The card setup?

The way I see it, remove the Asus soundcard and replace it with a PCIe soundcard. Then use the PCI slot.


:cool:

kup
12-17-2007, 11:57 AM
Anyone noticed that the Audio connector says Foxconn on it?

SNiiPE_DoGG
12-17-2007, 02:02 PM
a lot of boards use foxconn parts, almost every one ive owned in fact (never owned a foxconn board though)

safan80
12-17-2007, 06:27 PM
why do people always do weird superpis? can't they just stick to 1M & 32M.

kup
12-21-2007, 12:28 PM
Asus Rampage Formula...courtesy of HWBox.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5351/asusrampagesideew3.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asusrampagesideew3.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5155/asusrampagemanualsel2.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asusrampagemanualsel2.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3290/asusrampageinside1yd3.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asusrampageinside1yd3.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2461/asusrampageinsidecs9.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asusrampageinsidecs9.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2951/asusrampagefrontcz3.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asusrampagefrontcz3.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5213/asusrampagebackcf1.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asusrampagebackcf1.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7927/asusrampageaccesoryboxpf0.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asusrampageaccesoryboxpf0.jpg)

kup
12-21-2007, 02:02 PM
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7175/asusrogx48rampageformulif3.jpg

kup
12-23-2007, 05:26 AM
Is no one interested in this? :(

Warboy
12-23-2007, 05:34 AM
Is no one interested in this? :(

I am, Whats the Rev on the rampage?

I wish ASUS would offer a step up from the maximus to the rampage.

kup
12-23-2007, 05:36 AM
I can't make out the rev on the board, it's far too blurry. But the PCB is indentical to that of the Maximus, which I expected since X48 is just higher binned X38 in reality. I'd expect rev2 or something?

xgman
12-23-2007, 07:43 AM
Is this board going to be delayed like the other x48 ones because of Intel's decision to clear x38's stock first?

Anemone
12-23-2007, 07:55 AM
Going to get a Rampage & DDR3 when it all comes available with the new EE cpu.

NoobCake
12-24-2007, 09:01 PM
is anyone still gonna still be using DDR2?

I am still thinking of going to DDR3 with this board or not.

Worth going to DDR3?

eva2000
12-24-2007, 09:27 PM
is anyone still gonna still be using DDR2?

I am still thinking of going to DDR3 with this board or not.

Worth going to DDR3?
I still use DDR1/DDR2 while playing with DDR3 ... performance to price ratio, DDR2 just can't be beat right now compared with DDR3.

I just wish there were mem dividers for DDR3 higher than 1:2 as we're really cpu FSB limited right now heh

NoobCake
12-25-2007, 01:33 AM
I still use DDR1/DDR2 while playing with DDR3 ... performance to price ratio, DDR2 just can't be beat right now compared with DDR3.

I just wish there were mem dividers for DDR3 higher than 1:2 as we're really cpu FSB limited right now heh

lol ohh ok

i just hate the names asus give to boards, especially the maximus formula, blitz forumla, all this bull dust.

Just keep it with numbers and letters ( like the p5k deluxe, etc ), looks better and doesn't sound childish like rampage formula "sigh" @ asus.

Other then that i love asus boards, BLACK PCB FTW!

not like gigashat kids colour

Skyline GT-R
12-25-2007, 04:27 AM
Any news on the overclockability of these boards? Or is it the same as the X38 boards?:) Also, is the 4:5 FSB:RAM divider fixed?

NoobCake
12-26-2007, 05:46 AM
are all of asus's range of x48 boards gonna be mostly DDR3?

can someone list then ddr2 and ddr3 for me please?

thanks

intothefantasy
12-26-2007, 06:00 AM
when asus will be releasing d rampage formula?

NoobCake
01-01-2008, 03:19 AM
anymore news on this board???

NIZ
01-01-2008, 05:13 AM
i like the layout of the rampage formula!! Can run dual graphics, pci-e tv tuner & pci sound card. Everything I need & still decent ventilation to the graphics cards.

Anemone
01-01-2008, 06:28 AM
I believe they will have both DDR2 and DDR3 versions of this board.

Primary reason of interest in decent DDR3 now is good timings on 2gb sticks, and compatibility with Nehalem's onboard mem controller for the next upgrade.

JoeBar
01-01-2008, 12:50 PM
Thread should be separated for ddr2 and ddr3 boards, at least.

nick2crete
01-01-2008, 12:55 PM
Take a look here (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3150&p=6) ..no bonus ..

BLHealthy4life
01-08-2008, 10:54 AM
bump

Any recent news on the P5E3 Premium? I'm pretty sure that is going to be my next mobo...

kup
01-08-2008, 11:01 AM
i like the layout of the rampage formula!! Can run dual graphics, pci-e tv tuner & pci sound card. Everything I need & still decent ventilation to the graphics cards.

The layout is identical to the Maximus Formula... :p:

lukas69
01-08-2008, 11:18 AM
When arrive in stock ?

NoobCake
01-08-2008, 02:55 PM
When arrive in stock ?

+1 i would like to know also :up:

kup
01-08-2008, 03:13 PM
Aren't all X48 boards on hold now, because one of the first tier manufacturers complained they had too many X38 chips still to sell?

BLHealthy4life
01-08-2008, 03:28 PM
Aren't all X48 boards on hold now, because one of the first tier manufacturers complained they had too many X38 chips still to sell?

The INQ said this...they actually said to blame Asus for the delay...

However, in a more recent article by them said that the boards are scheduled for release at the end of the month....

can't wait! I need official 1600Mhz divider to push my DDR3-1600 further...

DeViTTo
01-30-2008, 12:43 PM
When arrive in stock ?

I know they are delayed probably by Asus themselves but could someone post any new info relating to the Rampage Formula and the Extreme.

I want the Extreme, but it would be nice if they shipped them at the same time this time around.

got a nice pair of Cellshocks 1800 waiting to be installed :D

AndreYang
01-30-2008, 10:31 PM
I know they are delayed probably by Asus themselves but could someone post any new info relating to the Rampage Formula and the Extreme.

I want the Extreme, but it would be nice if they shipped them at the same time this time around.

got a nice pair of Cellshocks 1800 waiting to be installed :D


I have bought 4 pcs P5E3 Premium from zipzoomfly 2 days ago. They will be arrived by tomorrow. 299USD for each, but price is 344 USD now.:mad:

zfactor
01-30-2008, 11:16 PM
wow wish i would have saw that ... i would def have grabbed one of those.. damn ...

CoolZone
01-31-2008, 02:12 AM
I saw that ASUS X48 R.O.G. Rampage Formula has DDR2.Any idea where I could find it and at what price?

ACS
01-31-2008, 02:45 AM
Im eagerly awaiting rampage formula aswell... IF P5E3 premium is 340$ wow , does it mean we gonna get 400$ speculated prices first week of availibility for the rampage;/

CoolZone
01-31-2008, 03:08 AM
this can be bad news for everyone...I really do not want for this to happen.I was waiting for x48 explicitly,but I see that they are more than overpriced,same layout...Very,very weird.

outlandos
01-31-2008, 04:20 AM
Any news on a new release date?

xgman
01-31-2008, 07:53 AM
The rampage seems listed on several Euro sites. I saw a 2/21/08 date on one of them

http://en.toppreise.ch/index.php?a=133045&SID=0673f1de0b43d5ec2b987d7b5a2b3c00

ACS
01-31-2008, 08:35 AM
Hm if those prices are real its not that bad actually...
350.00 CHF = 322.816 USD (There are some shops in that link that have 350-400$ listed)
Hope it comes sooner than end of feb thou.

firas
01-31-2008, 09:25 AM
the RAMPAGE is a DDR2 board (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asusrampageinside1yd3.jpg) to clear things up

since the Maximus is the X38 king right now, I think RAMPAGE would be the next king, this is a good review about it
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=10

DeViTTo
01-31-2008, 10:58 AM
the RAMPAGE is a DDR2 board (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asusrampageinside1yd3.jpg) to clear things up

since the Maximus is the X38 king right now, I think RAMPAGE would be the next king, this is a good review about it
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=10

There is also a Rampage Extreme which is DDR3, so to be correct there are two versions.

clone38
02-04-2008, 02:52 AM
Just put my pre-order in for the Rampage in the UK :D

traveler
02-06-2008, 10:54 PM
Waiting for the Asus Rampage Extreme






:cool:

CoolZone
02-07-2008, 02:39 AM
I'm waiting too but seems that Intel,Nvidia are on a long 'delay' period of time.

JoeBar
02-07-2008, 12:53 PM
P5E3 Premium has appeared here as a preorder. Don't ask about it's price though...

340€!!!! :eek2:

Don't bother to calculate it in $$... :p:

Infa
02-07-2008, 02:30 PM
Yeah, the Premium is one expensive board...

myself are waiting for the Abit IX48 Max :) getting a little tired of asus now....
and allways been an abit fan deep inside ;)

regards.

NIZ
02-07-2008, 10:09 PM
Any pre-orders for the Rampage Formula in the US or Australia?

kup
02-08-2008, 01:02 AM
Got pre-orders in the UK.

OBR
02-08-2008, 01:57 AM
P5E3 Premium has appeared here as a preorder. Don't ask about it's price though...

340€!!!! :eek2:

Don't bother to calculate it in $$... :p:

because 2GB DDR3 are included ... thats not to much for board and modules ...

normal P5E3 premium cost in my country 250EUR

daniel.j
02-08-2008, 01:54 PM
Any idea when the Rampage Formula board is released?? I'm awating that beauty a long time, hope I will push my low memory higher... :-)

Matt C.
02-09-2008, 09:29 PM
Any idea when the Rampage Formula board is released?? I'm awating that beauty a long time, hope I will push my low memory higher... :-)

after doing a quick google search, it looks like mid Feb.

i was about to place an order for a Maximus...but I am going to wait a few more days now.

lloydsmart
02-15-2008, 07:30 AM
I really want a Rampage Extreme. Any news on that? Today's the fifteenth, but I don't see any more news on it than yesterday. Was the 15th thing just for the Formula, or what?

lior307
02-15-2008, 08:06 AM
I belive that there will be Mobos that will support DDR2

pH(x)
02-15-2008, 01:36 PM
P5E3 Premium has appeared here as a preorder. Don't ask about it's price though...

340€!!!! :eek2:

Don't bother to calculate it in $$... :p:
$499.036 America-land Fun-bucks :p: :rofl:

godsfist
02-20-2008, 09:38 AM
ASUS P5E3 Premium: One to Rule them All…

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3229

ante_ante
02-21-2008, 12:07 AM
I was planing for Formula X38 but i will wait for Rampage to :)

jonny_ftm
02-21-2008, 12:32 AM
I read this thread by case. You're some late, the official launch date was confirmed by intel two weeks ago

http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20080204PD216.html

I don't remmeber where I saw it, but the week was 12 I think. So, in fact it will be end march, about 21th, so take a deep breath for one month longer. I bough a P5K Premium two weeks ago when I heard of that official launch date. Couldn't wait 1 month and half to boost my Q6600. Also, at the announced prices, things are going mad without serious competition by AMD/ATI and nVidia

Intel and ASUS are claimed to be responsible of the delays, on purpose for obvious marketting reasons. I should have bought nVidia, but sadely their i780 is not wat I was waiting for :(

Anemone
02-23-2008, 08:22 AM
If the Rampage Extreme takes any longer to get here people will end up skipping it for Nehalem boards...

coo-coo-clocker
02-23-2008, 04:42 PM
they're probably working out kinks so as to avoid the issues they've had with recent releases. Let's hope the initial BIOS is a bit stronger than what we've been seeing...

Infa
02-23-2008, 07:08 PM
yeah what about the Extreme?! why nothing about it yet....

same thing when i wanted the maximus extreme, it just got in stock all silent and no reviews.

samtan
03-03-2008, 10:53 AM
Any idea on formula/Extreme prices? :confused:

Leeghoofd
03-03-2008, 01:00 PM
Preordered the P5E3 premium at 299 euro's... hope it's better than the x38 divider wise... though initial tests seem promising, same FSB with way less volts... come to papa !!!!

geof
03-03-2008, 01:14 PM
Preordered the P5E3 premium at 299 euro's... hope it's better than the x38 divider wise... though initial tests seem promising, same FSB with way less volts... come to papa !!!!

may you tell me in which shop ? :D
thanks :up:

nordicdiver
03-04-2008, 12:45 AM
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-262-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1050

sxs112
03-04-2008, 12:53 AM
http://pic.xfastest.com/sxs112/ASUS/Rampage-Formula/P2224920.jpg
:D

Infa
03-04-2008, 05:13 AM
I can spot the Formula, guess its rampage, cool new logo too :)

but what about the EXTREME!? :D gimme!

Leeghoofd
03-04-2008, 06:03 AM
may you tell me in which shop ? :D
thanks :up:

http://www.hpm-computer.de they raised the price already by 90 cents but way under 350 euro price in Belgium

http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p8087_ASUS-P5E3-Premium-WiFi-AP-n.html

chilly
03-05-2008, 06:31 PM
Will the Rampage Extreme have the ICH10 SB ?

BailA
03-07-2008, 03:30 AM
Whenever they go out in stores the Rampage?

bellinghamwa
03-07-2008, 10:54 PM
I have bought 4 pcs P5E3 Premium from zipzoomfly 2 days ago. They will be arrived by tomorrow. 299USD for each, but price is 344 USD now.:mad:


How is this possible?!?

You ordered 4 Asus P5E3 Premiums and they were delivered on 2/1/08?

It is 3/7/08 and it still hasnt been released, but you bought four of them on 1/29/08??

Leeghoofd
03-07-2008, 11:04 PM
How is this possible?!?

You ordered 4 Asus P5E3 Premiums and they were delivered on 2/1/08?

It is 3/7/08 and it still hasnt been released, but you bought four of them on 1/29/08??

These guys have a quicker acces route then normal clients mate... if not via a shop they go straight via Asus... don't worry it's pretty normal :)... and I'm still waiting too like you lol

pmp
03-08-2008, 07:32 AM
Will the Rampage Extreme have the ICH10 SB ?

No. ICH9R there.

bellinghamwa
03-08-2008, 03:13 PM
New Asus P5E3 Premium X48 Review. Conclusion, "To put it simply, the Asus P5E3 Premium is a Maximus killer."

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/cpu_mainboard/asus_p5e3_premium_x48_ddr3_motherboard/1

bellinghamwa
03-08-2008, 03:37 PM
Is it just me or would the board have scored better if they had run the RAM at 1600 or 1800?!?. They ran the test with the RAM set to 1066!! Send the board to me and I will test it with my 1600 RAM that is sitting in my closet waiting for a motherboard!

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/cpu_mainboard/asus_p5e3_premium_x48_ddr3_motherboard/5

Supershanks
03-08-2008, 04:20 PM
They ran the test with the RAM set to 1066!! Send the board to me and I will test it with my 1600 RAM that is sitting in my closet waiting for a motherboard!:lol: yep.
At least they have dual gtll ref circuits now a weakness on the x38 board, although no insight as to what the options are.
CPU PLL is still the same range minimum 1.50v which is high wjhen intel max is 1.60v
Vttt - FSB Termination Voltage: 1.20v - 1.50v , would bre nice to see a higher ceiling.

Looks better but depends on £ :lol:

C-N
03-08-2008, 04:40 PM
Is it just me or would the board have scored better if they had run the RAM at 1600 or 1800?!?. They ran the test with the RAM set to 1066!! Send the board to me and I will test it with my 1600 RAM that is sitting in my closet waiting for a motherboard!

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/cpu_mainboard/asus_p5e3_premium_x48_ddr3_motherboard/5

It probably would have scored better but I think the reviewer was trying to do a like for like comparison with the other boards tested rather than giving it all its got.

Quote from 1st page 2nd paragraph.


During the testing of the boards above, special care was taken to ensure that the BIOS settings used matched whenever possible.


CN :)

Edit : The review link I just posted for Supershanks has the ram up round 1800mhz with an Everest screenie too, it looks impressive too.

C-N
03-08-2008, 04:46 PM
CPU PLL is still the same range minimum 1.50v which is high wjhen intel max is 1.60v
Vttt - FSB Termination Voltage: 1.20v - 1.50v , would bre nice to see a higher ceiling.



Here is another review that details a little more of the voltage ranges.

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3229&p=4

I think you will find the vtt scale changes depending on the chip i.e 45 ~ 65nm just like my DFI does now.

CN :)

Infa
03-09-2008, 03:33 AM
Yep, looks like a killer board!

only thing i DONT like. and actually the cooling are great...when i had the P5E3 Deluxe board, with the same heatpipe cooling it managed it pretty well, at avarage usage of the comp, it kept it almost 30c, and it was X38 chipset..

ah well, to the point, aswell as the X38 board, it doesnt show any info, there are no sensors for the Voltage, it dosnt show in bios nor everest, i NEED to see what voltage been set, and whats real from bios and what droop i get etc, thats the only bad thing... but as it seems that DFI wont put out a ddr3 board? "romours here on XS" , and no sign of Rampage Extreme, this looks like my new board.

regards.

Supershanks
03-09-2008, 03:53 AM
I think you will find the vtt scale changes depending on the chip i.e 45 ~ 65nm just like my DFI does now.
Oh right Auto, 1.20V to 1.50V in 0.02V increments, 1.20V (65nm CPU) or 1.10v (45nm CPU) standard from
ASUS P5E3 Premium Specifications (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3229&p=4) looks to be just 65/45nm dependent. Maybe a little higher cieling then for 65nm :)

What range has your DFI got.
I See DFI x48 as the main competition here, at least in my head:)

luck:)

C-N
03-09-2008, 05:52 AM
Oh right from
ASUS P5E3 Premium Specifications (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3229&p=4) looks to be just 65/45nm dependent. Maybe a little higher cieling then for 65nm :)

What range has your DFI got.
I See DFI x48 as the main competition here, at least in my head:)

luck:)

I think off the top of my head 1.2-1.5v with the 45nm & up to 1.6 with the 65nm.

I reckon the interesting thing this time out is maybe DFI will be in a position to launch there X48 boards when ASUS do so we will get both brands at once instead of waiting 2 months for the DFI.

I love DFI but so far the ASUS boards are impressing me, It may finally be time to switch to DDR3.......ohhhh the decisions DFI X48 DDR2, Rampage X48 DDR2 or make the jump to DDR3 I'm torn right now.

More DDR2 X48 reviews needed :D

CN :)

Supershanks
03-09-2008, 08:19 AM
Yep the link I here
Auto, 1.20V to 1.50V in 0.02V increments, 1.20V (65nm CPU) or 1.10v (45nm CPU) standard from your article shows it .:)

I reckon the interesting thing this time out is maybe DFI will be in a position to launch there X48 boards when ASUS do Yep been pondering on that myself. Whilst they might both be ready development wise it depends how Intel dish up the chips.:)

Think ddr2 will be out 1st:
DFI LT X48-T2RS DDR2 Boards Available 16th March! (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/all-latest-hand-picked-news-stories/2422-dfi-lt-x48-t2rs-ddr2-boards-available-16th-march.html) with ddr3 in April.

luck:)

DeViTTo
03-09-2008, 05:18 PM
Reading the reviews do you think they really are holding back as some reviews have the P5e allmost equal with the Maximus extreme, in fact beating it in some places?

I know they said that in some reviews like for like settings, but the difference in price to the old Maximus Extreme is £70. There seems to be no word on the Rampage Extreme :shrug:

I'm probably going to be a sucker though and go with the P5E3 because I have some Cellshock modules waiting to be used that were bought 2 months back, and by the time I get to use them depreciation would of set in.

I like the fact I should get more life outta my Q6600 at higher than 3.75Ghz maybe until I can source E8500 and clock that to 4.5GHz

bellinghamwa
03-10-2008, 03:20 PM
If I have no plans of running SLI, will the 790i have any advantages over the P5E3 Premium?

jagt
03-11-2008, 01:20 PM
Soo... has anyone gotten a Rampage Formula here? I see it's listed as in stock now here in Norway, and I'm rather tempted to order one... It's just that I don't want to be the first to get one (guinea pig, anyone?)

brinox
03-11-2008, 02:59 PM
Soo... has anyone gotten a Rampage Formula here? I see it's listed as in stock now here in Norway, and I'm rather tempted to order one... It's just that I don't want to be the first to get one (guinea pig, anyone?)

what website? can we get a link?

jagt
03-11-2008, 03:10 PM
http://www.netshop.no/aspx/loginVnet.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2faspx%2fprodukt%2fprdin foVnet.aspx%3fplid%3d101074%26__redir%3d1&plid=101074&__redir=1

Says 20+ in stock, unless it's an error of some kind.

Zucker2k
03-11-2008, 11:23 PM
http://www.netshop.no/aspx/loginVnet.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2faspx%2fprodukt%2fprdin foVnet.aspx%3fplid%3d101074%26__redir%3d1&plid=101074&__redir=1

Says 20+ in stock, unless it's an error of some kind.

Are those retail versions shipping with the 0207 (beta) bios?

Leeghoofd
03-12-2008, 06:50 AM
Review of the Rampage :

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ1NywxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

jagt
03-12-2008, 07:05 AM
Are those retail versions shipping with the 0207 (beta) bios?

No idea, I haven't bought one so I wouldn't know. I am very, very tempted though.

jagt
03-12-2008, 07:13 AM
Review of the Rampage :

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ1NywxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

Blergh, what a rubbish review! Not exactly at the same level as Anandtech's preview of the board...

Leeghoofd
03-12-2008, 07:18 AM
Some like it simple some like it tech...for me as long as it is honest and objective I don't mind...

jagt
03-12-2008, 07:25 AM
Well yeah, but it didn't really get into anything of what's special about the board. But you're right, diversity is good.

Infa
03-12-2008, 09:51 AM
We have in sweden, confirmed delievery of Premium at 18th ...

around $450 .... but what the hell, this board seems to be awsome...

just that it have seperate CPU GTL , Like DFI , makes me want it ....it does a bit for stability... the rampage only still has CPU GTL REF ... not 0-1 - 0-2 like DFI or premium...

well well , should i place and order....hmmmm

Zucker2k
03-12-2008, 10:17 AM
I don't understand why (Asus) engineers are intentionally holding off on/taking away bios tweaks from the end user.

Infa
03-12-2008, 11:22 AM
dunno, but premium are "less" board than Rampage, still rampage dont got the real cpu gtl, dont get it :)

the boards dont sell like butter, confirmed 4 boards at a shop here... still 4 , and still will be, people arent as crazy as us OC people, they dont want to spend 450 on a board.....heheeh..silly people ;)

or are we just plain stupid? hehe..

jagt
03-12-2008, 12:45 PM
dunno, but premium are "less" board than Rampage, still rampage dont got the real cpu gtl, dont get it :)

the boards dont sell like butter, confirmed 4 boards at a shop here... still 4 , and still will be, people arent as crazy as us OC people, they dont want to spend 450 on a board.....heheeh..silly people ;)

or are we just plain stupid? hehe..
Komplett, right? Says 4 expected here too since their HQ and warehouse are here in Norway. That's not a whole lot of motherboards for two countries, so it looks like they just couldn't get their hands on any more for now.

Supershanks
03-12-2008, 02:18 PM
he rampage only still has CPU GTL REF ... not 0-1 - 0-2 like DFI or premium...
yep I think the Rampage will probably be the last single channel GTL board. The Premium with dual channel is the way to go.

Infa
03-12-2008, 02:37 PM
Still, i dont know what it does... i know it somehow stabilizes the current to the cpu..
Gunning Tunnel....something.

someone please simple put the diffrence between single and dual GTL ?

0-1 0-2 means? whats 0-1 for and 0-2 ?

jcniest5
03-12-2008, 02:54 PM
So, if given a choice for most of us here, would you go with the Premium or ROG Formula Extreme? Looks like both are based on the same X48 chipset.

Infa
03-12-2008, 03:05 PM
If there even are an Extreme board, i maybe would have gone there, for me its Premium so far, with the lack of DFI T3R due in april some time i will not wait, (or cant hehe) , maybe ill get the DFI later in that case, and sell some stuff.

jcniest5
03-12-2008, 05:09 PM
If there even are an Extreme board, i maybe would have gone there, for me its Premium so far, with the lack of DFI T3R due in april some time i will not wait, (or cant hehe) , maybe ill get the DFI later in that case, and sell some stuff.

There suppose to be an Extreme version of ROG Formula, which instead of using DDR2 memory, it is using DDR3 memory. So far, that's the only thing different about the two that I have read about.

quadnad
03-12-2008, 05:58 PM
I apologize if this has been asked before, but will I have any fit issues installing a Fuzion on the Rampage Formula?

The only boards I've been able to find with a Fuzion installed are the older Maximus Formula SEs, which appear to have smaller heatsinks over the NB/SB/mosfet assembly.

Anyone know?

AndreYang
03-12-2008, 06:44 PM
How is this possible?!?

You ordered 4 Asus P5E3 Premiums and they were delivered on 2/1/08?

It is 3/7/08 and it still hasnt been released, but you bought four of them on 1/29/08??



http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/ZZF-P5E3.JPG



But I received P5E3 Deluxe.:rofl:

Aivas47a
03-20-2008, 08:10 PM
Got my P5E3 Premium on the way from MWave, should be able to start messing around with it after Easter. Let's get this thread fired up! ;)

bellinghamwa
03-20-2008, 09:47 PM
Got my P5E3 Premium on the way from MWave, should be able to start messing around with it after Easter. Let's get this thread fired up! ;)

I just checked mwave.com and could not find the P5E3 Premium anywhere. I guess it doesn't really matter though. I got tired of waiting and ordered a 790i Ultra on March 18. If Asus had released the P5E3 Premium on March 18 (or sooner) I would have purchased it instead. Oh well Asus...you snooze you lose.

askimo
03-21-2008, 06:22 AM
I don't understand why (Asus) engineers are intentionally holding off on/taking away bios tweaks from the end user.

I don't understand that behavior either

xgman
03-21-2008, 06:36 AM
Got my P5E3 Premium on the way from MWave, should be able to start messing around with it after Easter. Let's get this thread fired up! ;)

you sure that wasn't a deluxe?

Infa
03-21-2008, 07:49 AM
Now they change a cofirmed date on premium here, it was due march 18th CONFIRMED...now 29th march.. stupid to set at confirmed date if it isnt, INTEL or the shop f-up :)

well well, maybe DFI are getting their board out until then? hate to not knowing hehe...

DeViTTo
03-21-2008, 04:06 PM
Ok I have my P5E3,
first impressions runs cool and overclocks Q6600 to 3825Ghz with 9x ,multi quite well.

I found the everset scores a bit lower than expected with trd of 6. I need to get a better cooling loop as I only have 1 120 rad covering cpu and gpu. I'll get back to you when I have run more tests.

I need to do fresh install as I havent had chance today. I tried OCCT but failed with 2 mins with cpu too hot, but seems to run ok otherwise. Strange I know its a newer version but I used to be OCCT stable at 3.6GHz on Maximus Formula SE. The temps climb to around 69-70c maybe it needs better tim also and a chance to settle down. Its a bit of a contradiction to what I said at first but to the touch everything is hardly warm.

I'll monitor the situation :)

O Protos
03-22-2008, 08:16 AM
Has anyone heard any information on the asus rampage extreme yet?
has anyone heard any release date or any information at all.

Infa
03-22-2008, 09:27 AM
Ok I have my P5E3,
first impressions runs cool and overclocks Q6600 to 3825Ghz with 9x ,multi quite well.

I found the everset scores a bit lower than expected with trd of 6. I need to get a better cooling loop as I only have 1 120 rad covering cpu and gpu. I'll get back to you when I have run more tests.

I need to do fresh install as I havent had chance today. I tried OCCT but failed with 2 mins with cpu too hot, but seems to run ok otherwise. Strange I know its a newer version but I used to be OCCT stable at 3.6GHz on Maximus Formula SE. The temps climb to around 69-70c maybe it needs better tim also and a chance to settle down. Its a bit of a contradiction to what I said at first but to the touch everything is hardly warm.

I'll monitor the situation :)

Ok, sweet :) keep us updated, too bad you havent got a Wolfdale to compare with... but how are the perf. and overall system compare to your previuis board? And what do u mean? isnt it stable at same clocks as on formula? or isnt stable at 3.8 ? doesnt show very well in your post :)


regards.

DeViTTo
03-22-2008, 11:11 AM
Ok, sweet :) keep us updated, too bad you havent got a Wolfdale to compare with... but how are the perf. and overall system compare to your previuis board? And what do u mean? isnt it stable at same clocks as on formula? or isnt stable at 3.8 ? doesnt show very well in your post :)


regards.

Yea I wish I had one too, but still installing my OS, I have put 2 scsi controllers on this board, ones a Perc 320-e the other a 320-2 from LSI causing some headaches running 9 15K II drives. Had to install vista to have both working off correct drivers.

Anyway had the cpu at 466 x 8 memory 1864Mhz trd7 very stable. Everest shows 11450 read which is impressive. I look back though at my old Formula 3dMark6 score posted here on same clock was 14300 odd now 13660. I need to do some more messing around once I have an OS to work with. Sorry cant update you more at the min.

Supershanks
03-22-2008, 11:36 AM
Has anyone heard any information on the asus rampage extreme yet? I've a feelling you won't. Think the P5E3 Premium is the current replacement. The Premium is a newer design board with dual channel CPU GTLref, the Extreme only had single. I reckon Asus will push the premium & relaese an upgraded dual channel Extreme later

That's my guess but anyway i'm going to save myself some £ & have ordered a Gigabyte GA-X48T-DQ6 (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3189) :ROTF:

luck:)

Infa
03-23-2008, 10:08 AM
Have you gone gigabyte before? i have and i wont go back :) dont like it at all, but the taste is like the butt, shared or splitted (swedish saying :))

There are a rumour that the pinotnoir are the "rampage extreme" but in disquise, people say its a X48 chipset under there and not 790.

Soon premium are available here too, will order ...

And Devitto, how are the monitoring? i know the lack of Vdimm and other measures in p5e3 dlx model, how much does it show here?

regards.

Supershanks
03-23-2008, 10:55 AM
Have you gone gigabyte before? Yep I had a x38 DQ6 for a while. Admittedly i got it after it had been around for a couple of months, found it a decent solid board. Was running Asus P5E3 Deluxe, but currently have my cellshock 14400 on RMA, hadn't overvolted them , much. Gives me that nagging suspicion I get on occasions that the board has killed my ram:rolleyes: . So after some mental acrobatics I've decided to save £50 & try the gigabyrte in preference to the Premium.

Will watch with interest how the premium performs. :)

luck:)

Infa
03-23-2008, 02:25 PM
My thoughts too when i got my gigabyte..

Had Maximums Extreme before, and it officially sucked at fsb , it refused to go beyond 500FSB , NOT EVEN 501, and it BSOD....strange board..it clocked like hell, boot up without a glitch at 9.5x500 , 4750 , this board have problems at 4,6 , i GOT FSB now, 562 now with this, but it clocks like an old hag.. and refuses mem dividers, its a bogus compared to asus, even if asus had sad fsb.....and bios on this board are a shame compared to asus.

maybe ddr3 wasnt mature enough on p35 or something, couse this is bad..
this is my main reason why im goin back to asus...bad bios, and very unstable at some higher clocks..well well.. hope asus wont let me down on fsb again, had 2 x38 boards doin exactly the same :)

gah typing alot of chit here, but thats me :) Devitto, report back please, im eager to see some results and answer to my question :)

regards.

Supershanks
03-23-2008, 02:31 PM
well best of luck Infa, will keep my eye on your progress, hope it's giod:up:

luck:)

Infa
03-23-2008, 04:00 PM
hehe you to my friend...

i know gigabyte aint all bad, but im a quite unlycky man... so ill get the crap for the most, a descent cpu i got afterall :)

29th its prel here for the boards...hope they will come then.. :)

Supershanks
03-23-2008, 04:37 PM
29th its prel here for the boards...hope they will come then.. Hope so as well. Mine should be with me 26/27th.

luck:)

DeViTTo
03-24-2008, 09:33 AM
Infa

Sorry mate haven't done much testing apart from running my system with all scsi cards and new install of vista. What I can say everything is quick with Q6600 @3.6Ghz 450x8 1800 memory, runs sweet as a nut also with Vista Ultimate 64 I used to get lower 3Dmark6 scores now same as XP with service pack 1 installed. I think I might stay with Q6600 as its 64bit for a while.

It definately runs cooler with less vcore im running on auto with 1.38 @3.6Ghz, need to push to 1.45 for 3.8 and above. Haven't gone above Auto on voltages apart from Vcore to 1.45 or 1.5.

i'll get back to you later.

Infa
03-24-2008, 10:50 AM
sweet :) the boards are actually in stock here at some retailers when i looked now, so i probably will get the board earlier.

how are the monitoring? you know, if you look in everest, what values do you see? vdimm vmch and vsb etc ? what temps?

regards.

BadNizze
03-24-2008, 11:16 AM
Getting my P5E3 Premium on the 26th, will be running a E8200 and some STT ProdjectX ram with it, hope it works out well.... I´m also kind of unlucky...

xgman
03-24-2008, 11:17 AM
Zip had the rampage and the P5e3 Premium today, so I ordered the Premum. I figured I might as well make the ddr3 jump now.

Aivas47a
03-24-2008, 12:24 PM
P5E3 Premium is at the Egg too:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131276

xgman
03-24-2008, 12:54 PM
Is there a more recent bios for the P5e3 Premium than 0204?

I wonder if we will be able to flash the Maximus 2 Extreme version of this board to the P5E3 Prem.? Cross flashing seems to be all the rage at the moment.

DeViTTo
03-24-2008, 01:42 PM
FYI infa :) I dont know if this helps you. Thats a Q6600 @ 3.6GHZ 450x8 with mem at 1800 trd 7. Been on all day hard gaming, will go higher need a little more cooling than I have at min just 1 120 rad covering the CPU and GPU.
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7051/voltsmm9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7051/voltsmm9.ac3fd984c6.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=510&i=voltsmm9.jpg)

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4218/memrx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

BadNizze
03-24-2008, 01:55 PM
[QUOTE=DeViTTo;2864616]FYI infa :) I dont know if this helps you. Thats a Q6600 @ 3.6GHZ 450x8 with mem at 1800 trd 7. Been on all day hard gaming, will go higher need a little more cooling than I have at min just 1 120 rad covering the CPU and GPU.QUOTE]

Good clocks there! Is tRD adjustable from bios like on Rampage formula :D

Infa
03-24-2008, 02:40 PM
trd are adjustable in DETAIL on this board...like everything else :P

this bios are uber rampage bios :)

just look at CPU GTL :) dual channel wich formula doesnt have.

Devitto, yes that was what i was looking for :)

im sad to see that it doesnt show any measures for vdimm and vmch etc..
toobad i like to see what values are set, and asus tends to overvolt their boards too..

BadNizze
03-24-2008, 02:42 PM
trd are adjustable in DETAIL on this board...like everything else :P

this bios are uber rampage bios :)

just look at CPU GTL :) dual channel wich formula doesnt have.

Great thanks! Can´t wait untill 26th when I get my P5E3 Premium ;)

jcniest5
03-24-2008, 10:25 PM
Anybody knows if PC3-8500 memory would work on the P5E3 Premium or do I really have to get PC3-1600 memory?

bobov
03-24-2008, 10:30 PM
Sure, PC3-8500 will work on P5E3 Premium.

jcniest5
03-24-2008, 10:40 PM
Sure, PC3-8500 will work on P5E3 Premium.

Are you certain? How come at ZZF, it says it's PC3-14400+ only, nothing about PC3-8500? Not that I don't trust you, but I'm just a little confused, that's all. I really wish it would though as I can't spend that much on memory if I go with this board. Thanks...

Infa
03-25-2008, 12:48 AM
it supports mem upto 14400..1800mhz Native, X38 did support 1600 native..

ofcourse it will work :)

jcniest5
03-25-2008, 05:45 AM
Well, I just placed the order from Newegg. I hope I made the right decision going with the P5E3 Premium instead of Striker Extreme (790i) (or instead of waiting for the ROG Formula Extreme). Got the PC3-1333 memory from ZZF instead as the same kit costs $70 less at ZZF than at Newegg ($118 vs. $189). Huge difference in cost, but Newegg has the P5E3 Premium for (just) $10 less. I'm a cheap guy, so I shop for the lowest possible price, even if it's just $5 less. :)

DualCore
03-25-2008, 08:45 AM
what is the best memory to use with rampage formula ? what U think to use some of this ...

http://www.ocztechnology.com/images/products/memory/b/ReaperX_b.JPG

2GB X 2 DDR2 1000mhz CAS 5.5.5.18

DeViTTo
03-26-2008, 05:34 AM
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/937/3dmark6dy1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/937/3dmark6dy1.2c40e200ef.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=521&i=3dmark6dy1.jpg)

Well just messing around now have same score as before with Asus Maximus, but this is in Vista64 which astounds me as I used to get crap scores with vista against XP. This is at 450x8 memory 1800Mhz 3.6GHz.

I have tightened my memory timings a little to 8.7.6.18 and got better throughput in everest, this is BTW all with volts on default tried cas 7 but will not go into windows on volts I am on at the minute, was trying 7.6.5.18. Will try later once I have installed fan cooler on ram.

This board is running less Vcore than I used to run with auto 1.38V and it runs very cool. Vista with q6600 seems so smooth and responsive a lot different to 6 months ago. It maybe a lot also to do with the 2 scsi controllers and the way I have configured my arrays, but I have never had it so good. :)

gurusan
03-26-2008, 05:35 AM
what is the best memory to use with rampage formula ? what U think to use some of this ...

http://www.ocztechnology.com/images/products/memory/b/ReaperX_b.JPG

2GB X 2 DDR2 1000mhz CAS 5.5.5.18

I will be trying this ram in awhile once I get some more money. I saw someone use a pair of these 2.15V 1000mhz 5,5,4,13 @ 1T!!!! in a 680i

Infa
03-26-2008, 07:26 AM
Devitto :) looking good! :)

getting my board tomorrow, CL 7-6-5-16 is easy with good 1800mhz memory.

1.95-2.0v is needed for 1800mhz CL7. try that.. ddr2000 cl7 needs about 2.25-2.30 little to high for my taste, but 2-2.1 are safe for 24/7 just so you know, ddr3 seems to be more durable that ddr2 at overvoltage. no degradation in my mem, allways kept it 1.9-2.0. looking forward to see what my cpu will do on this board. Will report back when its mounted :)

cheers!

DeViTTo
03-26-2008, 08:35 AM
Devitto :) looking good! :)

getting my board tomorrow, CL 7-6-5-16 is easy with good 1800mhz memory.

1.95-2.0v is needed for 1800mhz CL7. try that.. ddr2000 cl7 needs about 2.25-2.30 little to high for my taste, but 2-2.1 are safe for 24/7 just so you know, ddr3 seems to be more durable that ddr2 at overvoltage. no degradation in my mem, allways kept it 1.9-2.0. looking forward to see what my cpu will do on this board. Will report back when its mounted :)

cheers!

I tried the settings you suggested but it will not boot at the minute at CL7 but it could be that I should relax trd which is set to performance 7. I have worries about heat from all my Hard drives etc so have ordered 5 x Notua NF-P12 to install in my tj09 including swapping out the centre inlet one, also bought corsair memory cooler, and thanks to soulscollective a Silverstone 4 into 3 bay convertor.

Infa i'm still on the original bios 151 I think there is a new one out there 204 but I cant see a revision list and I dont want to not be able to back flash if there are any issues. I think i'll wait till you play with yours a bit more as there seems hardly anyone who has these at the min. I also don't have a very good understanding of memory subtimings and the effect of each setting, and I will bow to others expierance in this area. Infa do you have the Cellshocks to?

The only problem that has raised an eyebrow has been the MB temp sensor through asus probe reporting MB temp at 191 Degrees. I have felt and also restarted to check temp in bios all was ok. It also takes out the sensor in everest. I think its just an asus probe glitch which has occured 4 or 5 times.

BTW good luck tommorow with your board and keep us posted :up:

BadNizze
03-26-2008, 01:03 PM
Still waiting for my Xeon 3110 but board and mem is here, sorry for blury pic, Taken with K810i with carppy lighting

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Swe_Eric/DSC00130.jpg

CoolZone
03-26-2008, 01:16 PM
Which is better?The ASUS Rampage Formula X48 or the DFI DFI LP LT X48-T2R for the QX9650?

DualCore
03-26-2008, 01:23 PM
Which is better?The ASUS Rampage Formula X48 or the DFI DFI LP LT X48-T2R for the QX9650?

nice question, maybe one week more users have those mobos and we will know what's better to this cpu :) , i think the battle is for asus and dfi, the gigabut for third place :p: , what happen with the other brands :shrug:

CoolZone
03-26-2008, 02:21 PM
I'm really unpatient to find the answer to make the final decision of finalizing my build after 3 and 1/2 years

Aivas47a
03-26-2008, 02:41 PM
Which is better?The ASUS Rampage Formula X48 or the DFI DFI LP LT X48-T2R for the QX9650?

Based on my experience with prior Asus and DFI boards (P35, X38), a lot comes down to personal preference. A lot of folks around here love DFI; for others, DFI can be a frustrating experience.

DFI usually has the most options for tweaking. If you are willing to invest a lot of time setting up the board, you can usually squeeze out a few more mhz of performance on the DFI board than on any other brand. At the same time, it can take a lot longer and potentially be frustrating reaching stability at "normal" overclocks. With Asus I find I can set up the board pretty quickly and get a better max overclock than any other brand with the exception of a heavily tweaked DFI board.

One key advantage of DFI in the past has been the ability to fine tune GTL reference voltages, which are key for maximum quad core overclocking success (kentsfield or yorkfield either one). Asus has been behind the curve on that option, but from what I understand the P5E3 Premium has much better bios options for GTL tuning. That should help narrow the gap in terms of maximum achievable performance.

I have found both brands to be sub-par in terms of customer service so that's not really a deciding factor. I do think Asus is a little better about continuing to support older boards with bios updates, and is less likely to abandon an unpopular model than DFI (spoken as a former owner of DFI's CFX3200).

PS: If you've really been waiting 3 1/2 years to finalize your build, might as well wait another year for Nehalem!

CoolZone
03-26-2008, 10:21 PM
Based on my experience with prior Asus and DFI boards (P35, X38), a lot comes down to personal preference. A lot of folks around here love DFI; for others, DFI can be a frustrating experience.

DFI usually has the most options for tweaking. If you are willing to invest a lot of time setting up the board, you can usually squeeze out a few more mhz of performance on the DFI board than on any other brand. At the same time, it can take a lot longer and potentially be frustrating reaching stability at "normal" overclocks. With Asus I find I can set up the board pretty quickly and get a better max overclock than any other brand with the exception of a heavily tweaked DFI board.

One key advantage of DFI in the past has been the ability to fine tune GTL reference voltages, which are key for maximum quad core overclocking success (kentsfield or yorkfield either one). Asus has been behind the curve on that option, but from what I understand the P5E3 Premium has much better bios options for GTL tuning. That should help narrow the gap in terms of maximum achievable performance.

I have found both brands to be sub-par in terms of customer service so that's not really a deciding factor. I do think Asus is a little better about continuing to support older boards with bios updates, and is less likely to abandon an unpopular model than DFI (spoken as a former owner of DFI's CFX3200).

PS: If you've really been waiting 3 1/2 years to finalize your build, might as well wait another year for Nehalem!


Well,I cannot because I already bought 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR1000

Infa
03-27-2008, 08:58 AM
Got my board today :D

now its time to go home and install! hehe

like child :)

DeViTTo
03-27-2008, 10:13 AM
Got my board today :D

now its time to go home and install! hehe

like child :)

Give us some feedback soon :D

joe.denice
03-27-2008, 11:05 AM
I just got mine in yesterday and its running great.

ericab
03-27-2008, 11:37 AM
I just got mine in yesterday and its running great.

joe; what BIOS version came on your Rampage Formula?

brinox
03-27-2008, 12:31 PM
mine came with 0219, whatever that means.

im running menial volts across the board on my e8400 @4.05ghz (450x9).

joe.denice
03-27-2008, 01:35 PM
yup 0219 is the one I have.

Supershanks
03-27-2008, 05:07 PM
Hi Infa Got my board today

now its time to go home and install! hehe

like child :lol: thta's good news , only got mine yesterday , just going to start winding it up. Gigabyte GA X48T DQ6 (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/3201-gigabyte-x48t-dq6-living-review.html)

luck:)

Infa
03-27-2008, 05:46 PM
'omg, how hard this board is hehe..
cant for nothing in the world to get it right.

im using bios 151 ... maybe it sucks? i hope!

couse this is strange :) hmmm...

Topped in a quick test with some Vmch about 545 ->
and topped out about 4.8ghz

but THEN its hard to get it stable to what i had before...ah well, got to figure this out more :)

Hmm was looking over at asus... 204 are the only bios existing :) AND ITS THE FIRST RELASE bios? what do I have then? ES bios? heh..
now i think i crashed my win installation too...zzzzz stopping at HAL.dLL , i need to sleep

DeViTTo
03-27-2008, 06:41 PM
'omg, how hard this board is hehe..
cant for nothing in the world to get it right.

im using bios 151 ... maybe it sucks? i hope!

couse this is strange :) hmmm...

Topped in a quick test with some Vmch about 545 ->
and topped out about 4.8ghz

but THEN its hard to get it stable to what i had before...ah well, got to figure this out more :)

Hmm was looking over at asus... 204 are the only bios existing :) AND ITS THE FIRST RELASE bios? what do I have then? ES bios? heh..
now i think i crashed my win installation too...zzzzz stopping at HAL.dLL , i need to sleep

Infa that what I asked you a few threads back, but you didnt reply lol I was going to change to new bios. I have read that because of the delay the bios is much more mature. I dont want to be stuck not able to flash back to that bios we have now.

So i'm playing chicken and waiting to see how you get on. ;)

xgman
03-28-2008, 07:15 AM
Infa that what I asked you a few threads back, but you didnt reply lol I was going to change to new bios. I have read that because of the delay the bios is much more mature. I dont want to be stuck not able to flash back to that bios we have now.

So i'm playing chicken and waiting to see how you get on. ;)


There are two bioses on the asus ftp site. 151 and 204. (204 notes say "improved ddr3 compatability")

DeViTTo
03-28-2008, 07:43 AM
There are two bioses on the asus ftp site. 151 and 204. (204 notes say "improved ddr3 compatability")

Thanks for that will install after messed around with installing Noctua NF-P12 x 5 lol

Infa
03-28-2008, 08:05 AM
the board are really strange with the volts..

it DONT like to be overvolted, it needs more or less exact voltage to what the speed are..

My goal are to bench 3dmark with 4,6, and i KNOW it can just need to find a setting for it :) , but i have to reinstall windows today, couse it got corrupted hehe.

Flashed to 204 before i went to sleep, and tested a little bit, think its better actually, now it boots up and starting win installation at 4750, but it hangs at harddrive detection... what are usually wrong when it cant read the HD?
dont know what options that effects HD reading.

Gotta try more of this tonight :) , Anyone know about the CPU GTL means with 0-2 1-3 ? core 0-2 or 0-3? cant be, couse the available voltage are diffrent for each..

i DO like the Phase pull in though :) you can have PL8 on the system internal settings, and still keep MEM PL at 7 :)

Im eager to try more :) just that it did 545 FSB after 10 mins are great :)

Tell me how it is goin for you guys.

regards.

MinisterOfSound
03-28-2008, 12:24 PM
Hi,

I received a Rampage Formula yesterday and only now I noticed that it didn't came with a back-plate or extra thermal sensors, is it normal or did anyone received these items?

Rgrds.

brinox
03-28-2008, 12:31 PM
Hi,

I received a Rampage Formula yesterday and only now I noticed that it didn't came with a back-plate or extra thermal sensors, is it normal or did anyone received these items?

Rgrds.

nope, i didnt... wasnt really expecting them though - the DDR2 packages from Asus have really gone down in add-ins since DDR3 hit :(

DeViTTo
03-28-2008, 12:58 PM
the board are really strange with the volts..

it DONT like to be overvolted, it needs more or less exact voltage to what the speed are..

My goal are to bench 3dmark with 4,6, and i KNOW it can just need to find a setting for it :) , but i have to reinstall windows today, couse it got corrupted hehe.

Flashed to 204 before i went to sleep, and tested a little bit, think its better actually, now it boots up and starting win installation at 4750, but it hangs at harddrive detection... what are usually wrong when it cant read the HD?
dont know what options that effects HD reading.

Gotta try more of this tonight :) , Anyone know about the CPU GTL means with 0-2 1-3 ? core 0-2 or 0-3? cant be, couse the available voltage are diffrent for each..

i DO like the Phase pull in though :) you can have PL8 on the system internal settings, and still keep MEM PL at 7 :)

Im eager to try more :) just that it did 545 FSB after 10 mins are great :)

Tell me how it is goin for you guys.

regards.

Hi Infa just updated bios slight everest read speed increase. I dont quite understand the Phase pull in i'm at PL7 cant go any lower. Do you have the Cellshock's as well?

A pic of my rig setup with Asus P5E3, running 24/7 3.75Ghz Q6600 with 10 HD drives 7x36GB 15KII 2x73GB 15KII 1 Sata Raptor installed have 2 but anyways. 2 scsi Perc/Lsi 320-e 8800GTX watercooled with 1 x120 rad XPSC with 5 x Noctua NF-P12. Temp are really cool using 1.45 vcore.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1772/mainpicqw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2919/everestlz6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Oh Daciper turn on PM's if you want a reply ;-) good luck
Hi I dont think it would be your bios revision thats stopping you posting. I am sure that E8400 would be supported. All you need do is install and away you go.

When a system doesnt't post its usual ram or video thats stopping it or unseated cpu. What ram do you have try 1 stick at a time, I am on 204 i think but bios I dont think is your problem as these boards designed around that sort of processor.

What video card are you running? try it in a different PCI-e Slot also. I cant think of much else really. Tell me
how you get on. Also check power leads to the video card whichever you have installed.

jcniest5
03-28-2008, 08:57 PM
Got mine today and it came with BIOS 0151. Diagnostic software reports it's just a Beachwood X38...is it accurate or not? I also need to flash it to the latest BIOS. Any links to the latest one other Asus' site? Somehow I can't go to the their FTP site anymore, it's asking for a username whereas it never before.

Infa
03-29-2008, 03:45 AM
Hmm, i need help with the GTL options, Core 2 are allways the one that dont hangs in.... and THATS what GTL are for more or less, but i dont know how it works damnit... 0-1 1-3 here and there, dont know what it stands for...

im at the same vcore as on every board i had, but this one is not stable at it..
as those other boards...need to get it fixed :)

pretty sweet bandwith though...

Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/wolfdale/everestbench.jpg

And S-pi 32m

Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/wolfdale/s-pi asus 4.3.jpg

DeViTTo
03-29-2008, 03:46 AM
try this link

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

then select motherboard, then 775, then p5e3 premium. Mine came with same bios as yours. had no trouble updating to new one.

Infa what memory do you have please? nm read your sig what volts you running on memory I'm on default but get pl6 or tighter timings?

Infa
03-29-2008, 03:58 AM
Im using Cellshocks.. as in sig :) thats why we got the signature right? ;)

im running 1.94 on them now, PL 6, and clock skew, stronger

now its only the cpu left :)

the sıstem are stable like this, but in orthos core 2 breaks before the first second, but only that!
still im fiddelng around with this GTL, but dont know WHAT core and to keep it low or high.

regards.

EDIT: now tried just for fun... did set 0-2 on 0.053x
and left 1-3 on auto, the system did not boot up :S

then put 0-2 on auto and 1-3 on 0.053x and now im typing...so they actually DO something atleast :)

DeViTTo
03-29-2008, 05:05 AM
Im using Cellshocks.. as in sig :) thats why we got the signature right? ;)

im running 1.94 on them now, PL 6, and clock skew, stronger

now its only the cpu left :)

the sıstem are stable like this, but in orthos core 2 breaks before the first second, but only that!
still im fiddelng around with this GTL, but dont know WHAT core and to keep it low or high.

regards.

EDIT: now tried just for fun... did set 0-2 on 0.053x
and left 1-3 on auto, the system did not boot up :S

then put 0-2 on auto and 1-3 on 0.053x and now im typing...so they actually DO something atleast :)

I tried 1.94 got pl6 with 1.4 through NB 7,7,7,20 but got same performance as I have at my normal clock so I have resulted back to old settings.

Infa
03-29-2008, 08:52 AM
okay :) keep trying stuff...

either my cpu have degraded, or the mobo aint the same as other, but i need 0.02v more to get it stable. ah well... its not the end of the world, the mobo performs a lot better overall anyway.. and i HATE fiddeling with GTL if i dont know WHY, and how to affect them in the system, i have to learn how, when to keep it low or high..

regards :)

traveler
03-29-2008, 02:13 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmm....

Still waiting for the Rampage Extreme....

What can I do with my Lian Li PC-343B case while I wait?


:shrug:

C-N
03-29-2008, 02:45 PM
What can I do with my Lian Li PC-343B case while I wait?

:shrug:

Buy a rabbit!:D

traveler
03-29-2008, 03:16 PM
I really want a Rampage Extreme. Any news on that? Today's the fifteenth, but I don't see any more news on it than yesterday. Was the 15th thing just for the Formula, or what?


No news yet. But the Maximus Extreme did come out a couple weeks after the Maximus Formula.


:cool:

jcniest5
03-29-2008, 08:24 PM
I need a complete BIOS info to stabilize my system (P5E3 Premium). I am running 450x8 on my Q6600 G0. I can pass all SuperPI but can't pass OCCT. I think I just a little here and there.

bobov
03-29-2008, 10:14 PM
Hmm, i need help with the GTL options, Core 2 are allways the one that dont hangs in.... and THATS what GTL are for more or less, but i dont know how it works damnit... 0-1 1-3 here and there, dont know what it stands for...

im at the same vcore as on every board i had, but this one is not stable at it..
as those other boards...need to get it fixed :)



I got similar problem with my QX9650 on p5e3 premium. Core 4 always get error in prime95 with GTL set on Auto in BIOS. Changed GTL on 0-2 to 0.600, 1-3 to 0.630 solve the problem. Now my qx9650 is stable at same speed/same vcore as on my p5e3 deluxe.

You may try 0.60 on 0-2, 0.63 on 1-3. :)

ChrisUK
03-30-2008, 08:23 AM
Hi,

I have had my P5E3 Premium since it was released and have a QX9650 and Corsair DDR3 1800Mhz memory.

I have noticed that when I first boot my system from cold I receive the following message,

"CPU core to bus ratio or VID configuration has failed"

This the leads me to enter the BIOS by pressing F1 due to a boot failure. From this point I just exit the BIOS and the system runs absolutely fine again. I can restart it no roblem either. But, if I switch off completely I get the same error message.

I am running 450FSB x 7 with DDR3 running at 7-7-7-20 2.0v

All other voltage settings are at default.

Does anyone know what is causing this? I just tried default settings for cpu, multiplier and memory running at 1333Mhz and it still happens.

Thanks for any help.

jcniest5
03-30-2008, 08:35 AM
Hi,

I have had my P5E3 Premium since it was released and have a QX9650 and Corsair DDR3 1800Mhz memory.

I have noticed that when I first boot my system from cold I receive the following message,

"CPU core to bus ratio or VID configuration has failed"

This the leads me to enter the BIOS by pressing F1 due to a boot failure. From this point I just exit the BIOS and the system runs absolutely fine again. I can restart it no roblem either. But, if I switch off completely I get the same error message.

I am running 450FSB x 7 with DDR3 running at 7-7-7-20 2.0v

All other voltage settings are at default.

Does anyone know what is causing this? I just tried default settings for cpu, multiplier and memory running at 1333Mhz and it still happens.

Thanks for any help.

I would say CLEAR your BIOS (using the jumper) and re-enter/re-configure all the information and see it makes any difference.

Infa
03-30-2008, 08:51 AM
also got this core failure in prime... allways core 2 ..

and MAN this board is strange in behavior...its not logic at all.

it DONT like to get just a tad to much voltage, and strap 333 and 400 DONT work in 480FSB wich it REALLY would, nooo there the 266 strap works... and i cant get it stable at 480, mem 1920.. this is a freakshow board..so strange..
aaaahhhh..... cant for the world not get it to work ok.... maybe this bios are bad or something heh.. gaaah.. alllways this problems lately :)

maybe the DFI board will be launched soon ? :)

bobov
03-30-2008, 11:18 AM
I'm sure next BIOS will be much better.

Seems like 266 strap has looser NB timings than 333/400 strap. Just compare memory bandwidth at same cpu speed @ different NB strap, you will notice 266 strap give lower bandwidth, higher latency than 333 strap. That's why 333 and 400 strap don't work at 480fsb, while 266 strap works fine.

bobov
03-30-2008, 11:20 AM
also got this core failure in prime... allways core 2 ..



tweak CPU GTL Ref for 0-2/1-3, :)

Also try prime95 25.6.

Aivas47a
03-30-2008, 08:25 PM
Well I've done a little tweaking on a P5E3 Premium, replacing a Maximus Extreme. Differences I've noticed so far:

Clock for clock, X48 seems to require less chipset voltage. Quadcore FSB over 450 took 1.6 nb volts on the maximus, only 1.44 on the P5E3

P5E3 seems less touchy with memory at the higher speeds. I've been able to dial in spec'd settings on cellshocks at 1600 - 1700 on different staps/dividers, no problems so far. On the Maximus, running ram at higher speeds was hit or miss in my experience.

Max OCCT-stable fsb on a q6600 I've been using is 475 (could be the cpu's wall, max for this one was the same on a DFI P35). No post at 500.

Will be testing with a q9450 in a couple of days. Hopefully 45nm, more mature bios will bring us 500 fsb at 24/7 usable settings. (A guy's gotta have a dream, right? :D )

Those 500/2000 results FCG and Tony posted for the Striker II Extreme are awfully sweet. I hope Intel isn't going to let Nvidia win this round of the motherboard wars!

Infa
03-31-2008, 08:10 AM
Yeah, it requires so much less vMCH, im on 1.33 for 450fsb, and 1.37 for 480, so strange :) if i give it 1.50 or so it wont boot, but runs fine with 1.30+ :)

and the VTT are also very sensetive, just little to much it wont boot, also noticed low GTL wont post the board either, so high GTL are the way.

Think to much vMCH were my problem with the straps, getting it a little better now.

Only problem are that my cpu needs more vcore with this board, Or it is degrading maybe? adjusting the GTL wont help a bit for me, the system runs fine with 1.45 2h+ with max. Extreme before, now it needs 1.48-1.50. dunno if its the cpu or the board, but it is a fact.

i can keep it at PL6 and twister at strongest at 480 atleast... hell of a bandwith :)

well well, how are the vcore for the rest of you with penryn? more less or the same? i dont want my cpu to be degrading :)

Aivas47a
03-31-2008, 08:14 AM
Yes that's a good point too, the board seems quite sensitive to overvolting.

I'll be trying q9450 hopefully today. :D Anyone else testing yorkfields, please post the GTL settings that you are using as the P5E3 Premium has more options than Maximus/P5K. Thanks!

xgman
03-31-2008, 08:42 AM
Hi,

I have had my P5E3 Premium since it was released and have a QX9650 and Corsair DDR3 1800Mhz memory.

I have noticed that when I first boot my system from cold I receive the following message,

"CPU core to bus ratio or VID configuration has failed"

This the leads me to enter the BIOS by pressing F1 due to a boot failure. From this point I just exit the BIOS and the system runs absolutely fine again. I can restart it no roblem either. But, if I switch off completely I get the same error message.

I am running 450FSB x 7 with DDR3 running at 7-7-7-20 2.0v

All other voltage settings are at default.

Does anyone know what is causing this? I just tried default settings for cpu, multiplier and memory running at 1333Mhz and it still happens.

Thanks for any help.

I get this too,. I got this on a Maximus Formula with the 1xxx bioses only. I got this with the latest bios on a P5K dlx also. I've seen this now with bios 204 on the p5E3Prem. Asus is doing something differently in the most recet round of bioses across the board and I'm not sure what. Some combinations of settings that are otherwise stable once in windows. It's a pain in the butt really. I don't know what the heck that means either, but obviosuly some bios setting it don't like. I'm getting a bit weary of it though and this P5E3 Prem is not all it is cracked up to be,. I'm tempted to try a 790i quite frankly.

xgman
03-31-2008, 08:50 AM
well well, how are the vcore for the rest of you with penryn? more less or the same? i dont want my cpu to be degrading :)

It droops more than my Maximus Formula did and I do find I need to set a tad bit more vcore to push my 9650. I don't know, so far I'm really not liking this board. It seems very finicky especially from cold boot. It's just giving me a bad vibe. Not sure how to explain it. :shakes:

Aivas47a
03-31-2008, 09:00 AM
... this P5E3 Prem is not all it is cracked up to be,. I'm tempted to try a 790i quite frankly.

I'm not ready to call it yet but I have to say, based on the early reports I'm seeing around here, 790i is looking pretty good. I've never been an nvidia chipset fan but I may have to try the dark side this time.

BTW I've been getting that startup failure message on a couple of different Asus boards too, though not on the P5E3 Premium so far.

xgman
03-31-2008, 09:32 AM
Actually cancel that dumb statement I posted about maybe I should try the 790i. It's looking real messy over there based on this thread: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=290927 ouch!! Lots and lots of unacceptable issues at the moment and even some reports of sata issues rearing their ugly heads again. arghhhghh!!!

Anyone aware of a newer bios in the works for the p5E3 Premium? (newer than 204?)

bobov
03-31-2008, 09:49 AM
well well, how are the vcore for the rest of you with penryn? more less or the same? i dont want my cpu to be degrading :)

My QX9650 is stable at same vcore as on my P5E3 Dlx. :)

DeViTTo
03-31-2008, 11:38 AM
My QX9650 is stable at same vcore as on my P5E3 Dlx. :)

I cant OCCT for more than 2 mins falls over whereas this same chip lesser cooling was OCCT for 1/2hr or more ok on Maximus Formula SE. Prime it falls over with rounding errors on core 4.

I will try at stock and see if it fairs better there im at 450x8 1800 most stable.

I have tried 0-3/1-2 but dont understand what im doing in this area. Also without performance loadline it won't boot. I suppose I'll have to move away from auto and start inputing volts, but I don't think thats the overall solution but it would start to help.

Anyone else input vcore for Q6600 i have tried upto 1.5 but I think NB needs to increase also. Its a pity we cant monitor what the defaults are like we could on Maximus Formala bios, because you could set and switch page and see the various voltage it set by default. There isnt enough in windows to monitor SB and NB voltages.

Aivas47a
03-31-2008, 01:53 PM
I was having some trouble with OCCT but switching the memory command rate to 2T seemed to solve that. I'm now stable with q6600 at 8x475 w/ vcore at 1.4625, PLL at 1.5, VTT at only 1.3, MCH at 1.44, CPU GTLs bumped up from default 63x/67x to 67x/70x respectively (no idea what I'm doing with those settings, just trial and error :rolleyes: ).

geof
03-31-2008, 02:02 PM
this board seems more sensitive to some adjustments ...
maybe a new bios will solve this :)

if someone wants to try another chipset and sell its P5E3 Prem ... i'm your man ;)

ir1z
03-31-2008, 04:55 PM
post edited and posted at --> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179580&page=37

ericab
03-31-2008, 06:08 PM
Hello guys im a noob in this overclocking part.....
a few days back i have manage to flash bios my maximus formula to the rampage formula with help from a friend and currently trying to OC my q6600 GO to 3.6Ghz to no avail....

ive got quite succesive result on manage to get it stable at 3.2 but could not get my system to stable in occt for 3.6

my pc specs:
Q6600 GO @ 3.2 (1.272 vcore)
Crucial Ballistix 2x 2GB kit PC6400
Maximus formula mobo BIOSed to Rampage Formula
pics:
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8070/oced32nv4.th.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oced32nv4.jpg)

Have tried up to vcore of 1.4 and still couldnt get the 3.6 to be stable at those same setting in 3.2 just changing multiplier to 9. Anybody can be of assistance plz?

hey ir1z,

first of all, you should be posting here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179580&page=37

second, your northbridge voltage looks like its quite a bit too low for the overclock you want. bump it to at least 1.55

third, you WILL need to boost that vcore voltage. try 1.4 and work down from there.

fourth, when over clocking your balistix, you'll need more then 2.22 volts, esp if your using a fsb of 450+, and you want to maintain a 520+mhz ddr speed.
i was in the same position as you a week ago with the balistix. their rated at a measly 2.1 volts, so much over that your risking cutting you memory lifetime in half. id go with some 8500's.

finally,
if you can post your bios settings from the extreme tweaker page, it would help us all out alot more. follow the template, from here (the 1st post): http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=168119

DeViTTo
04-01-2008, 06:51 AM
I need a complete BIOS info to stabilize my system (P5E3 Premium). I am running 450x8 on my Q6600 G0. I can pass all SuperPI but can't pass OCCT. I think I just a little here and there.

I finally got OCCT stable at 450x8 400MHz Strap 1800 Memory with this board and Prime Stable, but it took 1.5 Vcore 1.94 Dram at stock timings which I might now tighten and performance level Vdroop. Everything else I left at default.

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4494/occtbh4.jpg

motopen1s
04-01-2008, 07:53 AM
Anyone know when is the final version of bios for Rampage Formula is out? On asus homepage there is still only the 'latest' beta dated 26 dec 07.

It is strange that the bios is not released since x48 is officially out already and from what it seems the beta bios was pretty solid already (reviews).

:shrug:

Infa
04-02-2008, 07:58 AM
yeah havent tried CR2 for the mem though, maybe it cant handle it so well, its not that big a loss against CR1, will try later.


EDIT: Now my Win crashed AGAIN! , tried some stuff, and changed from 333 to 266, tried to enter the OS, but a file is corrupted, and it doesnt say wich one either........ ARGH! dont like this board, very unstable where others are stable. Hmm. what to doo. will reinstall again.
what else am i gonna do? :)

its SO strange really... the systems is quite fine at 1.45 , but ortho/prime/occt crashes instantly.
and if i up the vcore 1.46/47/48/49 , still crashes, this is insane, even if it has degraded? hopefully not, it wont be like more than 0.05 thats pretty much, it dont degrade over a second, or switch to another board...it must be this unstable,sensetive cracked up board...arrghh.. loosing my patiens.. :(

EDIT again: Finelly got some settings, did put it on OCCT last night, and checked in the morning, it had crashed at 2h 30 mins, thats fair enough when people are saying that the new occt 2 are a heavier test program, they said that the custom 2hr test are like 13hr Orthos, so im satisfied, it landed on 1.48 at 4,3ghz finelly. even though it was stablke at 1.45 on Extreme. But the values in bios maybe can vary, so this 1.45 on maximum maybe were 1.48, they are not THAT accurate. now my goal is 480+ stabilty with lowerd mnulti to 9 instead, i want the bandwith that comes with 1900+ CL7 mem :) almost 13gb i get. but DAM i say it again, the board are REALLY senst. with the volts, it must be so prescise.

how is it goin for you guys?
BTW , these 2 bioses are backwards flashable, just so you know, i got back from 204 and it didnt complain :)

regards.

Infa
04-03-2008, 08:34 AM
Meep meep :) have you died? or have your boards? :P

mngdew
04-03-2008, 09:22 PM
Well, I just finished installing this RF. It came with bios version 0219 installed.

GoldiClocks
04-04-2008, 06:47 AM
What would be considered normal for the north bridge temperature, bios shows 57 celsius and infrared meter gives a reading around 60 celsius from the pin fin :rolleyes: heatsink on the middle?
This is pretty soon after starting to play with the board. (trying to boot linux live CD and changing the settings as kernel panics..)

The motherboard is inside the case and the parts are in my sig, no side panel on the case though.

LostHawk
04-04-2008, 08:18 AM
What would be considered normal for the north bridge temperature, bios shows 57 celsius and infrared meter gives a reading around 60 celsius from the pin fin :rolleyes: heatsink on the middle?

Normal would be below 45°c for the NB. That's the default threshold with Asus Probe II delivered with my RF. (in my case I don't start to worry before 50°+)

Don't pay attention to my signature: I am swapping pieces between 3 PCs atm.
But right now with an E6600 processor at stock speed the NB shows 37°c idle and 40° load.
That's with the small provided fan mounted on the NB (I have watercooling but no blocks on chipset/bridges).

I can post values with overclocked E8500 when I install it back in that rig next week.
But I am already thinking about watercooling the NB indeed...
I currently like this motherboard but I don't have it for a long time enough to give a good opinion.

PS: original Rampage Formula bios was 0219 too for me. Board is rev 1.00G

Infa
04-04-2008, 11:16 AM
That looks like some high temps for you guys.

My premium NB idles about 28c and little above 30 in full load.
this with 1.40v. now i checked it was 29c during load :)

this cooling thats on both p5e3 Dlx and premium are the same and are working perfect!

Got my system stable now, the cpu are strange actually, in the beginning when i fired up the new mobo, the cpu were way off what it was stable before as i mentioned before. and the day before yesterday, it got stable at 1.48 2hrs+, were it wasnt in the start. then i tried AGAIN yesterday, ahh, now it was stable 8hrs+. and now i lowered the vcore to 1.46, it went 2 mins, and crashed, tried some minor changes in the GTL settings as i seem to have found the spot now, and rasing it made it worse, so i got in and out windows several times, and now testing again , it went 10 mins .. hehe sooo strange? it seems that it is getting back to normal? but how? soon ill maybe be back to what it was before? :)

The first thing i did when i got the mobo and got it all installed, was to MAX it, doing suicide runs etc, high volts 1.76 for a while...

i've heard that some people that have benched their cpu at higher volts got this "degrading" symptom, and after a week or so it got back to almost or full recovered.. maybe its not just a myth , ah well time will tell :)

board is extremely sensetive and you have to be careful with the adjustments. adjusting GTL just a notch can be major :) as i've noticed :)

gonna keep it like this for a while , 10 mins in OCCT 2.0 are stable enough for everying i think.

DeViTTo
04-04-2008, 12:45 PM
Infa

Haven't posted much about my board. i think you are correct very prone to the slightest raise in voltages. I have just bought a Thermochill 320.1 and a XPSC res top DDC Ultra with EK Supreme and 3 more Noctua P12 fans.

I'm going to install this weeekend and then try for overclock 3.8ghz OCT stable or higher of possible, I am at 1.5 Vcore at min tried different votages on NB etc didnt like it.

What I have found I am OCCT stable @3.6 but i had to add 1.9 to Vdimm to do so. Which I was supprised at as this is the upper range for the mem. I know you are at 1.94 but I need to work out the NB voltage and FST to get higher overclock, just have to wait a couple more days to get the cooling in place. then i'll post back. Doesn't sem to be many takers with this board as yet.

Infa
04-04-2008, 03:21 PM
Hehe, glad to here you are alive :)

Nice with the new Waterstuff, i know you are goin to be able to push your cpu more! this PA 120.3 ar awsome and just EATS the heat, have my 8800 and CPU in same loop, working great.

Getting 60c (realtemp) with 1.46 loaded on this baby! think thats awsome if you look at what people with Aircooling gets, just 1.30 gives them 70c or so.
water cooling are fun and are taking the "hobby" to the next level :)

you have a quad, and i a dual , so too bad we really cant compare settings while your have to be different for the most.

report how it goes man :) allways fun to hear results!

DeViTTo
04-04-2008, 03:51 PM
will do :)

Aivas47a
04-04-2008, 04:06 PM
OK, I'm something of an Asus fanboy (love the good old P5K Deluxe), but so far I am not having fun with this P5E3 Premium. Max FSB on a quad (so far I've tried q6600 and q9450) seems maybe 20mhz higher than Maximus Extreme, but is a huge struggle to stabilize. Very finicky in terms of voltage settings, GTL, staps. Customary voltage settings that usually do the job on the Asus X38 boards seem to be out the window on this model.

If anybody is running a quad (preferably yorkfield) at stable FSB of 475 or higher, I would very much appreciate if you could post your key settings.

Thanks! :D

NoobCake
04-04-2008, 04:38 PM
So guys, will this be the top DDR2 board ( Rampage formula ) in ASUS for the time being until that new socket comes out?

Dacipher
04-04-2008, 05:29 PM
Yes Noobcake, the Rampage Formula is definately at the top with the DFI board aswell. I havent researched on the nvidia chipset much but the Rampage Formula is a success for the time being and a great achievement from the reviews I've read.

The P5E3 premiuim on the other hand is an amazing board. I havent tried overclocking just yet, but by the looks of the bios its gonna be fun. Im going to try to hit 4.2 Ghz with an E8400 and Freezer Pro 7 so ill update in a bit guys. Also, has anybody hit 4.5Ghz with water cooling or air? That would be a triumphant task.

NoobCake
04-04-2008, 05:40 PM
aiight awesome, i want to order one now :)

whats the best 2x1GB ram i could get with this board?

prefer 8500, so it has some headroom..

Dacipher
04-04-2008, 06:06 PM
I am a Patriot monger so I would suggest these just because Patriot ram has always been so stable.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220284

Other than that OCZ and Gskill have some good 8500 and should do the job aswell.

Infa
04-05-2008, 03:42 AM
Yes. 4,5 are not a problem i can even bench 3dmark with it.. nothing major.

and yes the board are finicky or how you say :) make SMALL small adjustments instead of ahh... 1.40 dont work, lets get 1.50 , the board wont boot then :)
had MANY resets by this hehe.. i screamed to myself (yes im crazy) THIS ISNT FCKING LOGICAL BOARD!! hehe its nothing compared to whats normal, when raising fsb, i thauhgt, ah well lets raise vMCH to, but nooooo hehe.

be back with some small benches 4,5.

regards.

Infa
04-05-2008, 05:36 AM
Ok, benched a bit and been pissed off to hehe this board is a struggle, but think im starting to get it!

at lower FSB like 460 and lower, you would want the 333 strap BUT, that strap DONT like voltages over 1.41 on the vMCH, when climbing o ver 460, switch over to 266 strap, this one can take the voltage, im at 1.53 now for 475, CL7 with all phases pulled in and twister at strong, like 50mb read diffrence between stronger and strong, doesnt do much, but much for stability.

This board are Faster actually!! look at everest bench...quite fast for 1900mhz.
and look at the 3dmarK!! my personal best for a dual and a single 8800GT!
The same speed at a gigabyte P35T, i got more than 200p more in 3dmark.

heres some bench pics at 4,5Ghz

Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/wolfdale/cachemem.png
Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/wolfdale/s-pi4.5.jpg
Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/wolfdale/3dmark4.5.jpg

mrab54
04-05-2008, 07:27 AM
Got my rampage formula and q9450 @ 3.4 GHz with just upping the fsb and keeping the rest of the volts on auto. Core is @ 1.256. Most of the other volts on auto are pretty much overkill so I'm just trying to get those down now.

By the way, what is DRAM Ref and what is a save setting for it?

Aivas47a
04-05-2008, 12:13 PM
Thanks for the tip infa, you are right the 266 strap works better at higher fsb/vmch than 333. :up:

BadNizze
04-05-2008, 02:48 PM
I have been running this baord with my Xeon 3110 for some time know and i like it very much!

Infa: Is 333 strap faster with lower FSB for you? Say Sub 470mhz? I always use 266 strap

ASUS P5E3 Premium 0204 Bios
NB @ 1,31v
Mem @ 1,98v
266 Strap

OCCT memory test, STT ProdjectX needs 2,04v on S2E ;)
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Swe_Eric/primetight.gif

Latency @ 7-6-5-X So close to 12k...
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/Swe_Eric/Everest7-6-5-201T.gif

fordf250
04-05-2008, 03:22 PM
Ok, benched a bit and been pissed off to hehe this board is a struggle, but think im starting to get it!

at lower FSB like 460 and lower, you would want the 333 strap BUT, that strap DONT like voltages over 1.41 on the vMCH, when climbing o ver 460, switch over to 266 strap, this one can take the voltage, im at 1.53 now for 475, CL7 with all phases pulled in and twister at strong, like 50mb read diffrence between stronger and strong, doesnt do much, but much for stability.

This board are Faster actually!! look at everest bench...quite fast for 1900mhz.
and look at the 3dmarK!! my personal best for a dual and a single 8800GT!
The same speed at a gigabyte P35T, i got more than 200p more in 3dmark.

heres some bench pics at 4,5Ghz

Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/wolfdale/cachemem.png
Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/wolfdale/s-pi4.5.jpg
Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/wolfdale/3dmark4.5.jpg

Wow I thought the x48 and ddr 3 was much better than nvidia but I am only a little slower in bandwidth at same fsb on 780i and ddr2 running 1:1.

11970 read at 475fsb
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2153940220067863468IhqJfp

12280 read at 485fsb
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2026140390067863468eGhmuu

And 11200 with 4GB at 540mhz
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2470644660067863468ftHQmp

Infa
04-06-2008, 05:00 AM
Nvidia Chipset are actually a bit faster in bandwith than Intel, Look at the 790i with high fsb, it kicks my ass at same speed :)

BTW My install has got corrupted TWICE now while benching it at high FSB. dunno whats up. maybe my hdd starting to get bad?
allways crashed at 470-500

DeViTTo
04-06-2008, 09:21 AM
Infa and alvis

Have you got some voltages for Q6600, might try 266 strap as well. BTW infa way to go some good Everest scores there shows taht this board can do a lot better. I actually thought that it was bandwith limited and thats why it wasnt letting me clock on 400 strap so well.

So maybe I willl try 266 strap. If you have any rough estimates for FST, NB etc for q6600 i'll give it a go.

BTW installed new watercooling, damn Supreme plexi leaks, it was leaking from the oring. Caused me major headaches plus the fact the damn mounting kit with the backplate means the springs and nuts are a pain to fit, because they are too short. Had to dissasemble it all and revert to my old mounting kit fro XSPC Delta. Also had to grind the metal mounting plate to get it to fit. If your reading this Eddy i need a new O ring, I wouldnt say its that well designed as it doesn't fit the board to well. I am using the XPSC Delta at the min idling 26C and doesn't go above 55C on OCCT which I am glad about.

deepsilver
04-06-2008, 11:07 AM
Bios 0219 run's great on my Rampage Formular, but I'm still testing. :D

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd287/deepsilber/ASUS%20Rampage%20Formula/Super-PI_1M_01.jpg

Infa
04-06-2008, 12:46 PM
Devitto, dont know what vMCH you need actually, can just assume what will be needed.. if you go up in FSB as it seems you are, I need 1.53 atleast in 266 strap at 480, so ill think you need it too, also look at the VTT, think this one is more major to get right, aswell as the GTL settings when its regardning Quads.

Deepsilver looking goood :) now get that MHZ up! ;)

looks like its not that many that has gone to Asus X48 this time, little sad though, Think i will jump the DFI wagon when T3R comes, allways wanted to try a DFI board.

Dacipher
04-06-2008, 02:22 PM
Boy this board is simply strange. I've restarted my whole system millions of times just trying to get it stable. I had a good 4.0 Ghz at 1.36 vcore with a strap of 333 and I was priming it for about 3 hours. While I was priming I decided to go get a new television for my room. I got the new Samsung 40' LN40A650 and I was ready to make history. I got back home and stopped prime at 5 hours which is okay for me atleast. I connected my dvi to hdmi adapter to the tv. Booted up my computer and no dang thing on the screen. So I thought its okay ill try again, and yet again nothing appeared on the screen. The next thing I did was hit my wall because of anger and then cleared my cmos. I booted up again and to my surprise it worked....... but now my freaking endless hours of overclocking were gone obviously. I was like okay Im going to overclock again so I restart and nothing is on the screen again. WTF is running in my mind at this point. I clear the cmos and it works again! but then when I restart or turn off it shows nothing on the screen again. Im in need of advise you may say but I think the bios for the premium is whats causing the screen problem. Any suggestions?

LostHawk
04-06-2008, 02:30 PM
Boy this board is simply strange. I've restarted my whole system millions of times just trying to get it stable. I had a good 4.0 Ghz at 1.36 vcore with a strap of 333 and I was priming it for about 3 hours. While I was priming I decided to go get a new television for my room. I got the new Samsung 40' LN40A650 and I was ready to make history. I got back home and stopped prime at 5 hours which is okay for me atleast. I connected my dvi to hdmi adapter to the tv. Booted up my computer and no dang thing on the screen. So I thought its okay ill try again, and yet again nothing appeared on the screen. The next thing I did was hit my wall because of anger and then cleared my cmos. I booted up again and to my surprise it worked....... but now my freaking endless hours of overclocking were gone obviously. I was like okay Im going to overclock again so I restart and nothing is on the screen again. WTF is running in my mind at this point. I clear the cmos and it works again! but then when I restart or turn off it shows nothing on the screen again. Im in need of advise you may say but I think the bios for the premium is whats causing the screen problem. Any suggestions?

It's more often a problem with the E8x00 processor.
The board is really stable here.

PS: You still get black screens at stock speed with strap 266 ?

Dacipher
04-06-2008, 02:53 PM
It's more often a problem with the E8x00 processor.
The board is really stable here.

PS: You still get black screens at stock speed with strap 266 ?

I think im going to end up waiting for another shipment of E8400's because the one I've been working on is on some