loop setup advice?

[Nsidious9]

Hey all, I have a Coolermaster Stacker 830...
I just took the plunge into watercooling and well my original configuration didn't give me the cooling temps I was expecting.
First, the goods:
eVGA 680i
QX6800
2x8800GTX
2GB 1066 Dominators w/Air Flow Fan
SB XFi Fatal1ty.

Watercooling:
2x Koolance 8800GTX blocks)
1x 775TDX CPU block (dangerden)
2x MCR120-QP swiftech Radiators
1x MCRES-MICRO Hi-Flo Reservoir (swiftech)
1x Laing DDC-3.2 pump (from Dangerden)
_______________________________________
The loop goes:
pump>res>rad 1 (top of case)>CPU>rad 2 (back of case)>GPU1>GPU2>pump.

Now I am not getting the temps I want, so I am thinking of adding ThermoChill HE120.3 from Dangerden. Actually that reminds me. WHat's the difference between ThermoChill HE120.3 and the ThermoChill PA120.3 and furthermore, what would I benefit from?

Ok, back to the issue. Now when I get the 120.3 do I put that on the GPUs or the cpu?

Thanks!
Kelly

[KaptCrunch]

The loop goes:
res>pump>rad 2>CPU>GPU1>GPU2>rad 1

try to have the res above rad 1 with the pump in lowest part of loop

[Nsidious9]

The loop goes:
res>pump>>rad 2>CPU>GPU1>GPU2>rad 1

try to have the res above rad 1 with the pump in lowest part of loop



woops, sorry, I misread that.

There is no way to have that in this case. The pump is in the lowest part, then goes up to the res, then to the top Rad. I will post pictures.
That's the cleanest way to set it up without tubes running all over each other.

[KaptCrunch]

take a look over here stacker bookcase (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102550&highlight=Coolermaster+Stacker+830)

[Nsidious9]

take a look over here stacker bookcase (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102550&highlight=Coolermaster+Stacker+830)

Yeah, I've been there many times and got some great ideas. But still, none of them have answered the simple question I am asking...

SHould I put the 120.3 rad on the cpu or the gpus?

[kinghong1970]

Hey all, I have a Coolermaster Stacker 830...
I just took the plunge into watercooling and well my original configuration didn't give me the cooling temps I was expecting.
First, the goods:
eVGA 680i
QX6800
2x8800GTX
2GB 1066 Dominators w/Air Flow Fan
SB XFi Fatal1ty.

Watercooling:
2x Koolance 8800GTX blocks)
1x 775TDX CPU block (dangerden)
2x MCR120-QP swiftech Radiators
1x MCRES-MICRO Hi-Flo Reservoir (swiftech)
1x Laing DDC-3.2 pump (from Dangerden)
_______________________________________
The loop goes:
pump>res>rad 1 (top of case)>CPU>rad 2 (back of case)>GPU1>GPU2>pump.

Now I am not getting the temps I want, so I am thinking of adding ThermoChill HE120.3 from Dangerden. Actually that reminds me. WHat's the difference between ThermoChill HE120.3 and the ThermoChill PA120.3 and furthermore, what would I benefit from?

Ok, back to the issue. Now when I get the 120.3 do I put that on the GPUs or the cpu?

Thanks!
Kelly

um... did you buy the WC parts yet?
if i were you, i'd just put a 120.3 for the CPU > GPU > GPU loop instead of over complicating your setup with a rad squeezed in there somewhere...

the 830 is a nice case but not as roomy as you'd think... perhaps you can put a 120 radiator at the top... i'm putting a 160 at top...

as for Koolance stuff... i'd rather get EK blocks for sure... cant say much for them, never had em... but have EK FC for the 8800GTX in nickel... nice...

the NB gets pretty hot on a 680 chipset, no?

i remember removing the HSF and replacing their TIM putty crap with a better aftermarket TIM...

check the stacker thread over at computer cases as well as my 832 build for some ideas on mounting a 120.3 on a 830/832 case

[kinghong1970]

Yeah, I've been there many times and got some great ideas. But still, none of them have answered the simple question I am asking...

SHould I put the 120.3 rad on the cpu or the gpus?

if you read the beginning couple of posts in my stacker thread, you can follow links to calculate your heatload...

the 120.3 should be able to handle both CPU > GPU > GPU... but to be sure...

1) flowrate?
2) fans using with your 120.3?

also, i've read somewhere... that a multi rad single loop, it all evens out eventually... dont quite matter what's first... just make sure your Res feeds your Pump...

[Nsidious9]

if you read the beginning couple of posts in my stacker thread, you can follow links to calculate your heatload...

the 120.3 should be able to handle both CPU > GPU > GPU... but to be sure...

1) flowrate?
2) fans using with your 120.3?

also, i've read somewhere... that a multi rad single loop, it all evens out eventually... dont quite matter what's first... just make sure your Res feeds your Pump...

Ah ok, thanks :) Your post regarding your mods is what I am following for the installation of my 120.3. I am going to cut out the bottom and mount it there.
So eventually, how I am going to do this is going to be the 2x120 will feed the CPU and the 120.3 will feed my gpus.
I am going to use 80+CFM fans.
What do you mean by flow rate?

[Nsidious9]

um... did you buy the WC parts yet?
if i were you, i'd just put a 120.3 for the CPU > GPU > GPU loop instead of over complicating your setup with a rad squeezed in there somewhere...

the 830 is a nice case but not as roomy as you'd think... perhaps you can put a 120 radiator at the top... i'm putting a 160 at top...

as for Koolance stuff... i'd rather get EK blocks for sure... cant say much for them, never had em... but have EK FC for the 8800GTX in nickel... nice...

the NB gets pretty hot on a 680 chipset, no?

i remember removing the HSF and replacing their TIM putty crap with a better aftermarket TIM...

check the stacker thread over at computer cases as well as my 832 build for some ideas on mounting a 120.3 on a 830/832 case


YEah I got all my WC stuff from work. Unfortunately, we don't offer the 120.3, so I can't get that.

I am not going to cool my chipset. I actually like the look of the fan on the Northbridge.

Yeah, I am actually going to cut out the bottom and mount the 120.3 like Kinghong did.

[kinghong1970]

if you are going for a full external mount, go the way GameGuru did... more complicated cut but easier mount...

if you going to put part of it inside and part of it out, then cut a rectangular hole.

[Nsidious9]

I was thinking of doing the cut and making it half in and half out, but the folks at DD said that adding a 3rd rad will actually make the temps worse (?) so I should add a second loop. So now doing that, I have to figure in another res and pump. Maybe I should get the Thermaltake BigWater 760 and make that for my cpu since it's an all in one "in the bay" setup.

kidding about the TT. Sorta...

But yeah, so this case is pretty small, especially with the wiring job I do. As of now, the only visible wire/cable is the water tubing and even that is fairly hidden. So now I have to re-route everything as it is just to fit a 2nd pump and res in here.

[stormshadow]

not really sure about your W/C'ing parts.

why Koolance blocks? ANd why only two 120 rads for all that potential heat production? Two GTX's and a Quad?

good grief.

[Boogerlad]

Hey all, I have a Coolermaster Stacker 830...
I just took the plunge into watercooling and well my original configuration didn't give me the cooling temps I was expecting.
First, the goods:
eVGA 680i
QX6800
2x8800GTX
2GB 1066 Dominators w/Air Flow Fan
SB XFi Fatal1ty.

Watercooling:
2x Koolance 8800GTX blocks)
1x 775TDX CPU block (dangerden)
2x MCR120-QP swiftech Radiators
1x MCRES-MICRO Hi-Flo Reservoir (swiftech)
1x Laing DDC-3.2 pump (from Dangerden)
_______________________________________
The loop goes:
pump>res>rad 1 (top of case)>CPU>rad 2 (back of case)>GPU1>GPU2>pump.

Now I am not getting the temps I want, so I am thinking of adding ThermoChill HE120.3 from Dangerden. Actually that reminds me. WHat's the difference between ThermoChill HE120.3 and the ThermoChill PA120.3 and furthermore, what would I benefit from?

Ok, back to the issue. Now when I get the 120.3 do I put that on the GPUs or the cpu?

Thanks!
Kelly

Ok, the parts you chose weren't the best, 'cause you could have gotten better performance for the same price.
2x ek fullcover 8800gtx blocks
1 d-tek fuzion
1 mcr2/320
a T-line
and the pump you chose was pretty good, just mod it or get petra's top. That'll increase your flow alot

[Nsidious9]

I chose these because I get them from work and I didn't get approved to post in these forums for over a week, so I went with what I had access too.

Well regardless of what's better than what I currently have, I have to work with what I have access too.

I don't know first thing about watercooling, hence why I came here, so I didn't know about the potential heat issue until now. This is why I am adding a 120.3 into the loop. So yes I agree, good grief, but what do you expect from someone who isn't sure of what they're doing and doesn't know where to go for quality parts? Danger Den's 8800GTX blocks leak, that's why we don't use them... Koolance have been the best we've used in the last 2 years.
So what makes Koolance worse than ek? Not asking to be flamed, asking because I don't know.

same with the others you listed...

[disruptfam]

koolance = overpriced underpeforming all alu etc :(

[Jedda]

So what makes Koolance worse than ek?

EK is made by an up front enthusiast who keeps his prices down. communicates openly with us and develops quality components that perform at the cutting edge.

Koolance has released two technical reports that were examined here and proved to be nothing less than an an effort to deceive and mislead the users with bogus data concealed behind mumbo jumbo mathematics.
Their products are over-priced and their marketing has zero credibility.
They also use aluminium in their products which requires measures to prevent corrosion etc.

Its a pity that you've fallen into the trap of sourcing parts before advice/research, but you're not the first and won't be the last to wind up in that situation. All is not lost.
A PA120.3 would help big time. Whether you put it on the gpu or cpu will depend a bit on your over clocking intentions. I'd put my gpu on it unless I intended to put heaps of voltage into the cpu.
Take a look here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2414903&postcount=4) and run your numbers for a better idea of your heat loads. Also use Martin's Flow Estimator, in the sticky threads, to get a clearer idea of what your loops will flow like. Pump versus restriction etc is covered nicely by Martin's device.

HE v PA 120.3 is covered along with all Thermochill testing data combined at one point here. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=77260)