***OFFICIAL Asus P5K-E/WiFi Thread

[C0ncrete]

http://www.goldistree.ro/poze_produse/5_1_116.jpg





Specifications Page (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=0&model=1866&modelmenu=2)

Bios Page (http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=P5K-E)



There are plenty of mods for this board. Because it uses the P5K Deluxe PCB the mods are the same.

Vmods (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=145142)

VDroop Pencil Mod (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=147110)





Well seeing as I just got this board and could not find an "Official" thread I thought I would start one!

Through various forums there's a little confusion about this board. The P5K-E is a P5K Deluxe PCB. The main differances include one less ethernet controller and not as much copper heat-pipeing.

At this time the 0602 Bios seems to be the most reliable with the recent batch bringing volt issues.

Benching my E6600 tonight and will hopefully have my Crucial 8500's here tomorrow :)

First board I got today didn't boot up, but the replacement seems great so far.

[Dooglas]

Make sure to cool the vregs well, the stock cooling barely makes contact and if you overvolt at all, they get REALLY hot.

[C0ncrete]

Make sure to cool the vregs well, the stock cooling barely makes contact and if you overvolt at all, they get REALLY hot.

Is it worth taking it off and putting a layer of Artic Silver on there?

[Zeus]

Nice to finally see an official thread about this mainboard, there are plenty of users here at XS with this board.

Any word on a new 45nm supporting bios?

It seems the later ones with 45nm support are well bugged regarding voltages.

I like this board a lot, very stable, good overclocking potential but the NB heatsink runs blistering hot with 1.7V on it, i mounted a 40mm fan on it.

[Dooglas]

Is it worth taking it off and putting a layer of Artic Silver on there?
Yea, but I would use ceramique or something similar for this kind of application.

[Dooglas]

What I really want to see in here is how much perfomance is added when you throw another 3870 in for crossfire. I want to get a second one but I'm worried that the x4 will rob it of so much performance it won't be worth it.

[mikaelc]

Since I'm new to this forum, greetings to all the members :)

It's good to see an official thread for this mobo. I'm just one of (hopefully) happy owners. Bought that one about a week ago and just started OCing (my previous gigabyte had a "no-oc-at-all" syndrome...).

Look out for a new BIOS. A new one (0901) has been provided for a "naked" np-wifi P5K-E recently. Should be a matter of days for us to get an update from ASUS... As for me - I'm still using the one originally flashed (0503) and feel satisfied (knowing about all the problems reported for 0806).

As for the mods... I might not be a keen overclocker (only a modest OC in progress), but with a voltage damper enabled, I haven't noticed any drop so far. On the other hand - voltage on desktop differs from the one set in BIOS by 0.025 (default 1.325 set, for some reason only 1.3 on desktop). I've not tested the voltages with damper disabled (might be a question of that feature?).

And by the way... PECI enabled. BIOS temperature readings look realistic, but PC Probe shows lowered CPU temps (seems to be a common problem reported by a lot of users). Dunno whether it might be accurate for all of you, but it seems that the correct offset for a CPU Temp in SpeedFan (TCase, not cores - these looks to be reported correctly by CoreTemp and require a +15 offset in SpeedFan) should be about 7 +/- 1 degrees.

[Rocket]

So far I like the board.
I have it paired with a Q6600

One thing i dont like is where they put the IDE plug.
I like to put my Haupauge PVR-500 in this slot but it is very long and sits right on the cable.

[C0ncrete]

My results from dampner and the pencil mod.

No Mod/No Dampner
1.45 bios
1.41 idle
1.36 load


No Mod/Dampner
1.45 bios
1.424 idle
1.408 load

Mod/No Dampner
1.45 bios
1.424 idle
1.408 load

Mod/Dampner
1.45 bios
1.424 idle
1.424 load



As you can see, Mod + Dampner = no droop at all. It sometimes does move slightly. For example last night when I began Orthos the voltage actually went UP. This may be due to the mod not being done propertly. I'm going to buy a 2B pencil and will reapply today.

[iMAX]

New bios 0901 release, anyone tested it, hope it good :D

[C0ncrete]

Is anyone else having issues with onboard sound and headphones? Everything was working perfect whilst listening to music. I just booted up a game and the sound stopped.

Now everytime I stuff around with the jacks the PC freezes. Although I am putting the jacks in the holes it suggests for the headphone profile nothing works.

This is annoying :(

[C0ncrete]

New bios 0901 release, anyone tested it, hope it good :D

As per this thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=165637&page=2), the 0901 was released a few days ago and has the same vdroop issues as the 8 series :(

[cnumartyr]

As far as the Pencil mod... how heavy to shade it, what lead?

I'm asking because I'm considering doing it, but not sure about these parts. Also.. I've seen two different resistors people talk about shading... which one is it?

[Zeus]

Guys,

Be carefull with doing Vroop mods.

Vdroop isn't designed to tease the Asus users it there to make up for the lack of a big number of xtra capacitors.

In other words, Vdroop has to there in order to have voltage spiking within specs.

Let me elaborate:

When going from heavy load back to little load or even idle, a voltage spike occures.
Whenever the Vcore droops a bit, the spike will be within specs and do no damage to components like PWM mosfets.

Now doing a Vdroop mod takes away the ability to let the voltage droop under load, causing a voltage spike when going from full load to little or no load that will be out of spec.

The best way to cure this spiking is using caps but since the space around the PWM area on a mobo is limited, there's simply not enough space to place sufficient capacity of caps, that's why Asus came up with this compromis.

Having no droop can cause a mosfet to burn as seen on several occasions here.

Just be aware. ;)

Having said that, i also see there some confusion on Vdrop and vdroop.

Vdrop -- setting for example 1.5V in bios results in 1.45V in windows.
vdroop -- having for example 1.5v idle but dro(o)ps to ~1.45 under load.

[Shark-357]

What I really want to see in here is how much perfomance is added when you throw another 3870 in for crossfire. I want to get a second one but I'm worried that the x4 will rob it of so much performance it won't be worth it.


Here u are Cf on P5K-E, cards are @ stock:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3549/75265zt1hw2.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=75265zt1hw2.jpg)

[4Qman]

Does this board clock the same as the P5K premium. I am stuck to a budget and its either the P5K-E the P5K "Basic"
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=590765

[Zeus]

Go with this P5K-E wifi/AP, this one does have the voltage damper function that the vanilla P5K lacks.

[4Qman]

Go with this P5K-E wifi/AP, this one does have the voltage damper function that the vanilla P5K lacks.

Thanks, The P5K-E is basically a Premium without a heatsink then?

[TigerFury]

I would use ceramique or something similar for this kind of application.

Why is that ?

[Linus@ncix]

I've had a customer contact me about this board not booting to SATA optical. Has anyone encountered the problem, and do you know what the workaround is? If I can't get an answer I'm probably going to end up pulling a board and testing it to see if I can reproduce the problem, so if anyone knows, please fire me a PM :(

[TEDY]

Thanks, The P5K-E is basically a Premium without a heatsink then?

P5K DLX without 1 LAN and some heatsinks...

[cnumartyr]

I've had a customer contact me about this board not booting to SATA optical. Has anyone encountered the problem, and do you know what the workaround is? If I can't get an answer I'm probably going to end up pulling a board and testing it to see if I can reproduce the problem, so if anyone knows, please fire me a PM :(

I've heard of it.. also had some issues. It ended up being boot priorities and what SATA port I had it in.

Had to put it in one of the black SATA ports and then select some crazy HD 2i2w3525 to boot from.. Hitting boot from CD-Rom didn't work.. guess it looked for IDE on that. Having it in the red SATA port when I had RAID configured made it not boot.

[Rocket]

I've had a customer contact me about this board not booting to SATA optical. Has anyone encountered the problem, and do you know what the workaround is? If I can't get an answer I'm probably going to end up pulling a board and testing it to see if I can reproduce the problem, so if anyone knows, please fire me a PM :(


Yup boot setting and what sata connector your on.
I believe the black ones are considered slave.

[Linus@ncix]

Thanks for the help fellas. I'll see if this clears things up for him.

I've run into these kinds of weird problems before, but I'm not familiar enough with this board to give him a solid answer having not used it.

[SpRoX]

I also have this board and I'm very satisfied with it. I'm using the 0401 bios, but I think I will try 0602 tomorrow... Anyone know how it works with a Xeon 3060? :)

For some odd reason I get vdroops with my Xeon cpu and 0401 bios. I didn't when I used a E6400..?!

And C0ncrete, thx a lot for your mod/damp results! I'm now considering doing the mod myself! :)

[NoDsl]

P5K DLX without 1 LAN and some heatsinks...

There is more missing in p5k-e...
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/7967/dsc00130vz7.th.jpg (http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00130vz7.jpg)

which makes my cpu oc worst over 1.62 vcore (in-bios setting)

Generaly good overclocker but not the board to reach the absolute limit. I also have boot issues with maxtor 6B200M0 disk and some other random problems. I guess heil ICH9R...

I haven't tried P5KE0806 official bios yet though.

[zerotol]

hi guys , i also have this board but i have 2 questions.

1.I get swamped by the oc options , so can anyone give the recommended settings for maxfsb.

2.How do u guys measure the Vcore drop/droop.Cpu-z doesnt give the real vcore , so i dont know which program to use to check it :shrug:

[C0ncrete]

hi guys , i also have this board but i have 2 questions.

1.I get swamped by the oc options , so can anyone give the recommended settings for maxfsb.

2.How do u guys measure the Vcore drop/droop.Cpu-z doesnt give the real vcore , so i dont know which program to use to check it :shrug:

Latest Vcore is accurate.

[zerotol]

Latest Vcore is accurate.

then i have a big problem :shakes:

bios 1.325

cpuz 1.21
speedfan 1.21

:shocked: :mad:

Should i enable cpu overclock charging mode ??

That big of a drop isnt normal now is it ???:eek:

[C0ncrete]

What bios are you on as the 9 series has v droop issues.

I suggest the 0602, vcore dampner and the pencil mod. As you can see from my post before the differance in bios/windows is minimal and the vdroop from idle to load is nil.

[zerotol]

i use 802 , i dont really want to do the pencil mod , i dont like those modifications

[C0ncrete]

i use 802 , i dont really want to do the pencil mod , i dont like those modifications

The 802 has terrible vdroop issues. Go back to 0602.

I was the same as you in regards to the mod. I had never done one before.

The P5K-E vdroop mod is extremely easy. Simply get a pencil and colour over a small area. Takes about 5 seconds (seriously)

If the board needs to be RMA'd it takes about 5 seconds (serious) to take it off.

[Zeus]

c0ncrete, you don't seem to care about a blown mosfet?

Search around this forum, you'll see a few. :eek:

I recommend to just set a tad more Vcore in bios than you initially need, it will droop/drop to the minimum voltage you'll need.

With voltage damper enabled the droop on mine isn't that bad at all actually.

[C0ncrete]

Blown mosfet? As a result of what?

[Zeus]

Vdroop mod, read my post #15. ;)

[zerotol]

judging from cpu support we are all screwed

Core 2 Extreme QX9650 (3.00GHz,1333FSB,L2:2X6MB,rev.C0,4 cores)
ALL 0806

45mn requires 806 which has big vcoredrop:down:

[Rocket]

then i have a big problem :shakes:

bios 1.325

cpuz 1.21
speedfan 1.21

:shocked: :mad:

Should i enable cpu overclock charging mode ??

That big of a drop isnt normal now is it ???:eek:


Sounds like you haven`t disabled speedstep, or C1E support.

Also enable the vcore dampner in bios.

Or your using wrong versions of cpuz and speedfan.

[Zeus]

Sounds like you haven`t disabled speedstep, or C1E support.

Also enable the vcore dampner in bios.

Or your using wrong versions of cpuz and speedfan.


Or he is just using a bios newer than 0602 which gives these awfull vdrops.

[leo_bsb]

I'm using the 0602 BIOS and having better results overclocking my Q6600.

[cnumartyr]

I'm using the 0602 BIOS and having better results overclocking my Q6600.

Same, 0602 has been great for me.

Had 111mV vDrop from 0703.
Now it's 24mV in 0602.

vDroop in Windows with Damper on is 8-16mV.

[C0ncrete]

Just took back my second P5KE. I didnt get a replacement

I can use my trusty 956P DS3P until Jan when Penryn comes out.

Want to see how the new DFI goes so hopefully I can relive the old nf4 days!

[cnumartyr]

Just took back my second P5KE. I didnt get a replacement

I can use my trusty 956P DS3P until Jan when Penryn comes out.

Want to see how the new DFI goes so hopefully I can relive the old nf4 days!

What happened to the P5KE?

[SpRoX]

Mayne he blew a mosfet? :)

[cnumartyr]

Mayne he blew a mosfet? :)

My thoughts exactly.. :rolleyes:

[C0ncrete]

Same problem as the last (which was not modded!).

Randomreboots then the motherboard fails to boot. It aint the PSU, I even bought a new 620w Corsair to double check :(

[ChuckM]

I'm considring this board with a 2180 and 2 gig of PC6400 Ballistix. Anyone using a setup close to this?

[pee4]

I'm considring this board with a 2180 and 2 gig of PC6400 Ballistix. Anyone using a setup close to this?

I had that setup. And the P5KE/Wifi motherboard fried the Crucial RAM. At the same time, my friend's P5K-E/Wifi destroyed his Apacer 6400. Both motherboards have so far been unable to destroy Corsair 5400, 6400, and 8500. Don't expect to overclock your Corsair RAM though - my Corsair 8500 Dominator (huge heatsinks and fans) totally sucks...

[ChuckM]

So the motherboard fried the ram and survived? What kind of voltages were you using? If I go with Corsair, I won't spend the extra for Dominator, just the regular CL4 stuff.

[C0ncrete]

Got another P5KE from another vendor.

All good so far!

This one however came in a blue box (not black like the other 2 I had) and also with a 7 series bios.

Has anyone else come across this?

[Rocket]

I had that setup. And the P5KE/Wifi motherboard fried the Crucial RAM. At the same time, my friend's P5K-E/Wifi destroyed his Apacer 6400. Both motherboards have so far been unable to destroy Corsair 5400, 6400, and 8500. Don't expect to overclock your Corsair RAM though - my Corsair 8500 Dominator (huge heatsinks and fans) totally sucks...

Fried the ram in what way?
I presume by overclocking and overvolting the ram?

[Xvys]

Does this board clock the same as the P5K premium. I am stuck to a budget and its either the P5K-E the P5K "Basic"

I'm not sure about the differences, but Asus has another P5K model, the "SE", which is about $25 cheaper than the "Basic", which retailers don't seem to be promoting very much? It was on sale here for $98 a couple of weeks back.

I have the P5K Deluxe, which was included in a pre-built system I recently purchased. If I were on a real tight budget I would consider a used P5B, which can usually be picked up on craiglist for $60. NCIX had 2g OCZ gold 6400 for $19 last wk, I bought 2g Ballistix 6400 for $45. Cheaper yet would be a lower speed Athlon X2 which people are dumping for cheap, coupled with a Newegg openbox AM2 board, $30?

My P5B vanilla/E6300 reached the same 3.73GHz as the P5K-D, albeit the P5K needs lower voltage and runs cooler. It could probably go higher, but I am satisfied with a 100% overclock. The sweet spot on my P5B was 450 x 7 (3.15GHz) @ 1.31v, while the P5K is cooler with 500 x 7 (3.5GHz) @ 1.37v.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25139&vpn=P5K-SE&manufacture=ASUS

[Rovtar]

anyone else has problems with installing sound drivers?

i get error hda driver needed and not found or something like that :S

[cnumartyr]

I found something kind of random..

So I got 400 MHz Bus easily. I had to use 1.4v to the NB. If I dropped NB to 1.25 it would boot but would not initialize the display. I know it made it into windows because the Logitech G15 LCD screen would work normally showing me Processes, RAM Usage, and RivaTuner, but the monitor wouldn't work. Just by changing the NB voltage to 1.4 (after a clear CMOS) it would work just fine.

Anyone run into this issue at all? I was hoping to get 400 on stock voltage, but I'm wondering if this just won't be the case.

[Kain665]

Got another P5KE from another vendor.

All good so far!

This one however came in a blue box (not black like the other 2 I had) and also with a 7 series bios.

Has anyone else come across this?

Yeah, it seems the newer batches ship in blue boxes... wierd.

[mikaelc]

Mine was blue too (2 weeks old).

[RottenMutt]

I picked up a P5K-E at frys to see how much better this will overclock then my Abit AW9D-Max. So i loaded my e6700 cpu and 1000MHz G.Skill memory to find i can't even hit a 333FSB. I increased the ram voltage to 2.3 and set the timmings, set cpu voltage to 1.40v.
what am i doing wrong?

[Kain665]

Reset the cmos manually (jumper, battery - you know). Some out of the box p5ks have screwy settings and need to be reset.

[Polizei]

Im thinking about picking this board up in within a month. How is it as far as overclocking Core 2? Ive got an E6600 and will probably migrate to an E8400 when Penryn is released.

Is the P5K-E different from the P5K-E/WIFI other than the WIFI reciever? All I care about is the overclocking.

[cnumartyr]

Im thinking about picking this board up in within a month. How is it as far as overclocking Core 2? Ive got an E6600 and will probably migrate to an E8400 when Penryn is released.

Is the P5K-E different from the P5K-E/WIFI other than the WIFI reciever? All I care about is the overclocking.

Same board, but Wifi doesn't have a heatsink on the upper MOSFETs and employs a heat-pipe solution from the NB to the I/O side heat sink.

I like the regular model.. It runs good FSB without much problem on quads. Seens some fun numbers on duals (500+). It's a great price/performance part.

[Polizei]

My E6600 is the first batch, got it the day it came out. I can hit 385 FSB, but nothing more. Awful wall.

Hoping an E8400 will clock better.

Glad to see the P5K-E is the same as the WIFI minus the reciever with a heatsink added. I like how the -E doesnt have the heatpipe... can use my HR-05 without voiding the warranty.

[Kain665]

whats with all you people with low fsbs? im at 500 at 1.4v nb....

[Polizei]

Im at 9x385 @ 1.425vcore, 1.70v nb... Nothing more. I can go up to 1.65vcore and 1.75v nb and I dont get any further.

First batch E6600... got it the first day it was avaliable to the public.

[Mister2]

I'm having trouble getting very far over 400 FSB w/ 1.7v on the NB... Mine is a newer board (blue box). I think it's most likely a heat issue, but I'm not sure about what to replace the stock cooling solution with. Any suggestions folks?

Also, it would be great if anybody could post up some tips about optimizing all of those BIOS settings, I'm getting lost in there =)

[SpRoX]

What is max FSB for you guys? I did short test at 500MHz yesterday with everything on auto (6x500) and it ran perfectly... Nice to know what the board can do before I buy a 45nm cpu! :)

[ChuckM]

The board appears to have been removed from Newegg's site. They had it for $139.99 and it went out of stock, now it's off my list and the site??!*? That's OK, I'll just get one somewhere else.

[cnumartyr]

The board appears to have been removed from Newegg's site. They had it for $139.99 and it went out of stock, now it's off my list and the site??!*? That's OK, I'll just get one somewhere else.

Yea had a friend who ordered it the other day. He ordered the "Plain" P5K-E and was delivered the Wifi. Sans heat sink on the upper MOSFETS as well.. He wasn't too happy.

[Zeus]

I picked up a P5K-E at frys to see how much better this will overclock then my Abit AW9D-Max. So i loaded my e6700 cpu and 1000MHz G.Skill memory to find i can't even hit a 333FSB. I increased the ram voltage to 2.3 and set the timmings, set cpu voltage to 1.40v.
what am i doing wrong?

Disable DRAM static read control in bios, having this enabled makes mine very unstable.


Im thinking about picking this board up in within a month. How is it as far as overclocking Core 2? Ive got an E6600 and will probably migrate to an E8400 when Penryn is released.

Is the P5K-E different from the P5K-E/WIFI other than the WIFI reciever? All I care about is the overclocking.

Board clocks rather good, max fsb for me is 530 with E6600.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/SuperPifactory/12547.jpg

It clocks my Ballistix 8500 good as well.

[cnumartyr]

Great results on that Ballistix Zeus.

Here's what I got on my Transcend DDR2-800.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/cnumartyr/ddr21200.jpg

Here are some air results on a Q6600.. haven't found max FSB yet, still working on minimizing voltages at 400 MHz Bus. 1.4 NB and 1.3 FSB Termination is the lowest I can pull so far at 400 Bus and keep it 8 hour blend stable. 1.2 FSB Term got me an error about 5 hours in.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/cnumartyr/3800MHz.jpg

[Rovtar]

anyone knows why i can't install sound drivers...

i have installed sp3 rc1, my rig is in signature

[somekindofhate]

I ordered my P5K-E Wifi on 12/6/2007 12:49:32 PM from newegg and I went back to look and it's been deactivated? That's lame. But what is more lame is how I can get 399 FSBx9 but if I try to go to 400 I get BSOD entering windows? I have DDR-800 Ballistix in Dual 1g kit. Anyone know what i'm doing wrong. I've only played with FSB and Dampener

[Zeus]

anyone knows why i can't install sound drivers...

i have installed sp3 rc1, my rig is in signature

Do you have the sound device enabled in bios?

[cnumartyr]

I ordered my P5K-E Wifi on 12/6/2007 12:49:32 PM from newegg and I went back to look and it's been deactivated? That's lame. But what is more lame is how I can get 399 FSBx9 but if I try to go to 400 I get BSOD entering windows? I have DDR-800 Ballistix in Dual 1g kit. Anyone know what i'm doing wrong. I've only played with FSB and Dampener

What's the RAM running at when you go to 400 MHz Bus?

[somekindofhate]

RAM is 1:1 which would make sense if im trying to accomplish 400 Mhz FSB with DDR800

[Shark-357]

What is max FSB for you guys? I did short test at 500MHz yesterday with everything on auto (6x500) and it ran perfectly... Nice to know what the board can do before I buy a 45nm cpu! :)


I got 550 with 8500es didnt try higher yet.

[ChuckM]

Here's a link for overclocking the P5K boards. Hope some can find what they're looking for.

http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardware/110267-c2d-overclocking-guide-beginners-p5k-add.html

[somekindofhate]

Here's a link for overclocking the P5K boards. Hope some can find what they're looking for.

http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardware/110267-c2d-overclocking-guide-beginners-p5k-add.html

Hey thanks a lot. this should be very helpful . :clap:

[pee4]

So the motherboard fried the ram and survived? What kind of voltages were you using? If I go with Corsair, I won't spend the extra for Dominator, just the regular CL4 stuff.

The PC with Apacer 6400 would no longer boot. Just a black screen when you press the ON button on the front of the case.

The PC with Crucial RAM would constantly crash with Blue screens of death. Every crash would be a different error.

Both problems resolved instantly using Corsair RAM. I'm not recommending Corsair RAM as I believe my 8500 Dominator sucks. It's just that you asked if anyone had tried the combination of P5K-E/Wifi with Crucial and I felt I should tell you of my experience.

RAM was never over-volted - run at voltage recommended on the packaging.

Both motherboards are operating fine.

[Kain665]

Im using my p5k and crucial ballistix. They OC slightly lower than avg on the board - 500mhz 5-5-5-8-8-25-7-7-7/2T at 2.2v.

[rfisher983]

I'm really considering purchasing this motherboard for my next build. I believe I will get the P5k-e version since I don't need wifi and like the idea of having the extra heat sink. I'm debating whether or not to get this board of the Abit ip35 pro. I've heard the Abit IP35 Pro will not over clock well Quads well because of the 4 phase power design and I believe the Asus P5k-e has and 8 Phase. This leaves me leaning more towards Asus.

Currently I have a e6600 that is running at 3.6ghz at 1.5v (9x400) on my DFI p965-s. Right now I love my setup but will need more CPU power in the future (45nm penym). I plan on giving the DFI board to my fiancee.

Is the Asus P5k-e better then the P5k-e wifi in terms of overclocking? Does the p5k-e out perform the Abit IP35 Pro? I seem to be having a hard time finding comparable reviews between the two.

[Rocket]

I`m using Crucial Ballistix on this board as well, and have had no problems so far.

Maybe its possible that pee4 just had bad sticks of ram to begin with.

[Zeus]

I`m using Crucial Ballistix on this board as well, and have had no problems so far.

Maybe its possible that pee4 just had bad sticks of ram to begin with.


Same here.

I had Gskill pc6400hz first, which also has Micron D9GMH and now i have Ballistix 8500 running DDR1000 4-4-4 at 2.15V flawlessly.

This is the first time i hear this board killing ram.

[Rovtar]

Do you have the sound device enabled in bios?

yep i have set it on ac 97

but no help..

but i have solve the problem the uninstalling sp3:clap:

[ChuckM]

It will be after XMAS when I order my parts, Ive pretty much decided on 6400Ballistix. Just don't know which corsair psu, the 450 or the 550 non-modular. Here's my list from the Egg, any comments or suggestions are welcome. I'm also not locked into buying everything from newegg. Just gives an approx. cost total.

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=3445649

[C0ncrete]

I'm really considering purchasing this motherboard for my next build. I believe I will get the P5k-e version since I don't need wifi and like the idea of having the extra heat sink. I'm debating whether or not to get this board of the Abit ip35 pro. I've heard the Abit IP35 Pro will not over clock well Quads well because of the 4 phase power design and I believe the Asus P5k-e has and 8 Phase. This leaves me leaning more towards Asus.

Currently I have a e6600 that is running at 3.6ghz at 1.5v (9x400) on my DFI p965-s. Right now I love my setup but will need more CPU power in the future (45nm penym). I plan on giving the DFI board to my fiancee.

Is the Asus P5k-e better then the P5k-e wifi in terms of overclocking? Does the p5k-e out perform the Abit IP35 Pro? I seem to be having a hard time finding comparable reviews between the two.

To be honest I have not seen a NON Wifi version of the P5KE listed in shops in Australia. Everyone here just stocks the Wifi version.

I was also tossing up between the Abit and Asus but this board is great on paper. IIRC Abit has vdroop which cannot be countered with a dampner. The P5KE has a dampner which works a treat.

[ChuckM]

Asus link for P5K-E

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=0&model=1866&modelmenu=1

Also a review of 9 P35 boards icluding Abit,Asus, and Gigabyte

http://www.techspot.com/article/61-intel-p35-motherboard-roundup/

[Rovtar]

can you guys give me bios options this mobo to run on 450 fsb?

i am really confused. first time using this bios.:D

[Shark-357]

The best bios for was 0602 but it doesnt play well with my e8500es so i had to update to the latest 0902 i think... which doesnt Oc as well..

[Rovtar]

i am using 0602..
has the least vdroop if i compare to the other...

shark could you tell me what settings should i use to get 3.6 ghz on my e6750...

i was running 3.6 ghz on abit as well with no problem for 24/7

[C0ncrete]

The best bios for was 0602 but it doesnt play well with my e8500es so i had to update to the latest 0902 i think... which doesnt Oc as well..

Yes 0602 does not support 45nm cpu's.

[Rovtar]

i need help

i am getting this message all the time.. even if i disconnect all usb devices..

http://shrani.si/f/3b/XK/AvehEw1/usb.jpg

what should i do to get rid of this

[Mordorr]

Hi all!

This is my first post, in this legendary forum....

At August, i did buy this Board, Wi-Fi Edition + Q6600 G0+ Watercooled.

3400MHZ, + 1.4Vcore + 1:1FSB day-to-day, 24 hours no issues.

The ram is Mushkin 8500 2G

Problems:

1:1, above 444/445 of FSB.

No matter what, i do have some problems, reaching more than this value, no matter Vcore, Vdim, relaxed timmings, i pumped on it etc.etc..

I did get once 470 FSB, but i did loose 2 cores someone on the way...


Last, week, after reach 4G, and several boots, i did "kill" the Board:rofl:

How?

Before i had Pencil Droop trick.

Several boots, always warning about Vcore error problems.

Than it was asking, for a new Bios....

Finally, when i try 500X8, the Bios, never recory anymore, and i did send it RMA to Belium...


Except that, i like the Board, even it miss some plus:

more than 1.7 Vcore......for instance.

My previous system;:

Abit NFS 2.0, D Manta Ray XT Bios + AMD 2500 M

3 years at @2600MHZ, 24 hours always ON, with some serious abuses from my side:clap:

They don`t build them, like in the old times:rofl: :rofl:


Waiting RMA........:shrug:

[Shark-357]

Yes 0602 does not support 45nm cpu's.

0602 works great on qx9650 and much better than new bios.. but its got some issues with e8500...

[Raver]

Hello all.

Does this board support booting of off SATA DVD-RW drive to do a clean install of Vista? Or do I have to use an IDE DVD drive.

[Rocket]

Hello all.

Does this board support booting of off SATA DVD-RW drive to do a clean install of Vista?

Booting from SATA worked for me with XP so it should be ok with Vista as well.

[Mordorr]

Yes.

I confirm that.

In Bios im using IDE.

The 2 drivers, im using IDE cables.

All HD are Sata.

Mordorr

[Raver]

Booting from SATA worked for me with XP so it should be ok with Vista as well.

Thanx Rocket.

How is it displayed in BIOS, SATA DVD or something similar, and you can confirm you are using a SATA cable right?


Yes.

I confirm that.

In Bios im using IDE.

The 2 drivers, im using IDE cables.

All HD are Sata.

Mordorr

Thanx Mordorr.

But I need to know if I can use a SATA DVD-RW connected to either the red or black SATA connectors on the motherboard, and boot off of it, so that I can either clean install XP or Vista.

In otherwords I want to not have to use an IDE DVD drive, I want my IDE port to be connected to 2 WD205Gig IDE HD's.

And I'll be using 1 WD Raptor for my OS.

to the both of you on which SATA ports do you recommend me connecting my SATA DVD-RW drive and my WD Raptor, the Raptor will be in single mode not RAID.

Thank you in advance for your answers :)

[Shark-357]

Sata DVD/RW works fine with the board (i use Nec 7191).

[Psitech]

I'm considering getting this board and doing away with my p5wdh. I know i'm getting a p35 board, but can't decide which one yet. Has anyone tried this board yet with the a-data 800 extreme ram that newegg is selling? The limitations on the p5w aren't allowing me to see what this ram and my e6600 can really do. Do you guys think this would be a good board for me and if not please let me know your thoughts on other boards. Thanks!

[Blackoberst]

My P5K-E Wifi/Ap will arrive on Monday after my P5B Deluxe died. Still don't know why, I can't see anything fried on it. No post, no beep even with no cpu installed. Tried various solutions, no luck.

Anyway, I've got one question about this new board.
How is it with the strap? Does it have any strap issues like the P965 chipest? I remember seeing in a review some BIOS screenshots with and option which had something to do with strap, but I'm not sure.

[vera]

blowed mosfet any sample this forum ? any link ?

[Zeus]

blowed mosfet any sample this forum ? any link ?


Team Japan had once, can't find link though.

[vera]

I use 7/24 my e6750 at 3800mhz 1.47vcore and pencil mod , there is no unstability problem

idle : 1.472
load : 1.464

[tuanming]

E6300 103% overclocked here and i can even boot at 3800Mhz. My ram setting is 5-5-5-15 and the sub timing is set on auto (2.35v). I'd like to get some help on the sub timing on the P5k-E wifi/ap and if possible get it stable at 3.8Ghz or more with yours help. Btw, who has the latest or what's the latest revision for this board. I'm using the latest bios; my overclock does not change from 0602 to the latest.. And how do i know if this is the max my cpu could do? I tested my ram at 600Mhz @ 3.5Ghz and it was stable so ram is not the problem here.

[Rovtar]

change bios to 0602.. less vdrop

[pee4]

Thanx Rocket.

How is it displayed in BIOS, SATA DVD or something similar, and you can confirm you are using a SATA cable right?



Thanx Mordorr.

But I need to know if I can use a SATA DVD-RW connected to either the red or black SATA connectors on the motherboard, and boot off of it, so that I can either clean install XP or Vista.

In otherwords I want to not have to use an IDE DVD drive, I want my IDE port to be connected to 2 WD205Gig IDE HD's.

And I'll be using 1 WD Raptor for my OS.

to the both of you on which SATA ports do you recommend me connecting my SATA DVD-RW drive and my WD Raptor, the Raptor will be in single mode not RAID.

Thank you in advance for your answers :)


I tried a Pioneer SATA DVR-212 on the ICH9R connectors (configured as RAID in the bios). It won't work with Sony DVD Architect 4.0 (locks up). I attached the Pioneer to a cheap PCI SATA controller. That solved the problem.

[pee4]

I'm considering getting this board and doing away with my p5wdh. I know i'm getting a p35 board, but can't decide which one yet. Has anyone tried this board yet with the a-data 800 extreme ram that newegg is selling? The limitations on the p5w aren't allowing me to see what this ram and my e6600 can really do. Do you guys think this would be a good board for me and if not please let me know your thoughts on other boards. Thanks!

I came to P5K-E/Wifi from P5WDH. In my opinion (and price wise), this motherboard is not in the same class. For sure, it overclocks a quad (3.6Ghz) better than P5WDH (3.1GHz). BUT - I've had 2 P5K-E/Wifi of my own, and been involved with 4 other systems based on P5K-E/Wifi, and the board has numerous issues. I just can't find a solid reasonable cost alternative at the moment.

You can expect issues with RAID-0 on this board (I'm using ports 1 and 3 and seems to be ok for the moment). And you can expect the odd BSOD every now and then if you are a power user. The backplate is a pain is the ass - wrong alignment. Long graphics cards cover ICH9R ports 1 and 3. Lack of PS2 mouse sucks. Comes with almost no cables/accessories. JMicron and Norton Ghost hate each other - so you need to disable JMicron which means losing IDE and E-Sata. You get the idea...

But you might as well join the club, because I can't think of a better cost effective alternative for now...

[Mordorr]

First i could found, the source of Burning issues ( high PIE/POE ), with both burners IDE...

JMicron, is here the guilty.....lol:down:

Also i miss, the option of more than 1.7Vcore, like my old Abit NFS 2.0...

The Bios is solded in the Board ( i`m still waiting a RMA from Belgium ), otherwise, i could do a Bios reflash, with other Board....

Except that, for now i like it..........:up:

[Mister2]

I totally agree with pee3, I can achieve great clocks that seem perfectly stable with this board... but then I'll have a random BSOD. Clocking lower doesn't seem to help. More voltage doesn't seem to help. Monitored temps are all reasonable... just to be sure I'm going to install new heatsinks all around on the board, but considering that I just paid over $80 for heatsinks, that brings the total for my board (w/ aftermarket heatsinks) to over $210.

I'm of the opinion that I shouldn't have to spend top dollar on a board and CPU to achieve high performance, which is, IMO, the whole point of overclocking. To those of the same opinion, I would look for a different board. I just wish I could suggest another board, but I can't. I was also looking at a P35 Abit board before I bought this one, but since I didn't give it a shot, I can't say how they would compare.

[Rovtar]

anyone else is having random freeze problem..

mouse and mobo turn off.. screen freezes and i have to push the restart button...

i am also having memory problem.. i can't oc over 1ghz with my super talent.. on abit it was easy to oc over 1 ghz without any problems

[Mordorr]

I did have my system at 3400MHZ, full stable, 24 hours, and, i think 5 days, always ON, since i use Torrents and Emule 24 hours...


No BSO or other kind of problems....:up:

Always on, since August......emuling....:rofl:

[czzrichard]

Can anyone help me with these problems?

My PC spec:
CPU: E6300 ES, Working perfectly under 400FSB, 1.2V in BIOS
MEM: G.Skill F2-6400PHU1-1GBHZ 1G x 2, Working perfectly under 400 MHz 4-4-4-12, 2.1V in BIOS
Video card: Colorful 8800GT 512MB (http://www.pcpop.com/doc/0/252/252043_5.shtml)
HDD: 2x ST3250410AS 250G in RAID 0, 1x Maxtor DiamondMax 10 250G
DVD: Asus DRW 1814BLT
PSU: Coolermaster Real Power M520 modular RS-520-ASAA-A1
Case: Coolermaster CM690 with 3 case fans installed

With 0307 and 0901BIOS
Something strange happens to my motherboard. Every time I turn my PC off (but with AC power ON connected) before I sleep, my PC will NOT post every first time (Power Led ON, HDD Led didn’t ON). I have to disconnect the AC power for some while and then connect it again to get it work with the “Overclock failed message”. I tried to set everything to default, especially in Jumper free section. Also tried to set FSB, DRAM timing, Voltages into default (266, 5-5-5-15) manually. Luckily, I solve the problem by disconnecting one of my Maxtor HDD. However, another problem came up. The motherboard didn’t allow me change the FSB (Voltages and dram timing are OK). Even I manually set my FSB to 400, saved it. It still showed 266 FSB in CPU-Z.
Yesterday I just flashed to 0602 BIOS which has a good reputation on the internet. Disconnect the power of all HDDs and DVD writer. Didn’t help, still can’t start at the first time unless disconnecting & reconnecting AC power.

My CPU and MEM work perfectly on my previous ASUS P5B-plus Vista Edition.

What else can I do to narrow down the problem? I got another Coolermaster PSU PCAR 430W, enough for 8800GT? Should I swap it and try?

[rfisher983]

I totally agree with pee3, I can achieve great clocks that seem perfectly stable with this board... but then I'll have a random BSOD. Clocking lower doesn't seem to help. More voltage doesn't seem to help. Monitored temps are all reasonable... just to be sure I'm going to install new heatsinks all around on the board, but considering that I just paid over $80 for heatsinks, that brings the total for my board (w/ aftermarket heatsinks) to over $210.

I'm of the opinion that I shouldn't have to spend top dollar on a board and CPU to achieve high performance, which is, IMO, the whole point of overclocking. To those of the same opinion, I would look for a different board. I just wish I could suggest another board, but I can't. I was also looking at a P35 Abit board before I bought this one, but since I didn't give it a shot, I can't say how they would compare.

what is the error messages you get on the BSOD ?

[tuanming]

P5K-E Wifi/Ap now has rev. 1.02G in a new shiny blue box and it came with bios 702! :yepp:

[glide 1]

Hi all, anyone care to list the differences between the revisions of this board? I see it comes in 2 packagings now (black or blue box). thanks

[C0ncrete]

P5K-E Wifi/Ap now has rev. 1.02G in a new shiny blue box and it came with bios 702! :yepp:

Nice that must be the one I got.

Can you provide a link or details on how to see if you have the latest revision?

[Zeus]

P5K-E Wifi/Ap now has rev. 1.02G in a new shiny blue box and it came with bios 702! :yepp:


How are voltages in that bios and does it have 45nm cpu support?

[AriciU]

I'm thinking of changing my DS3R (vdroop hell) to this. Do you think there's any chance i'd get better then 3600Mhz stable on this board?

Also, for the money, is there any other board which is better then the P5K-E for dual/quad overclocking? (P35 only).

[Rovtar]

How are voltages in that bios and does it have 45nm cpu support?


i have that mobo.. and vdrop is still huge.. so i have to go for 0602

[Aerou]

I'm thinking of changing my DS3R (vdroop hell) to this. Do you think there's any chance i'd get better then 3600Mhz stable on this board?

Also, for the money, is there any other board which is better then the P5K-E for dual/quad overclocking? (P35 only).

check your thread ;)

DFI LP P35 is "better", P5K Premium a little better, but this one rocks, considering the price and ease of OC

[AriciU]

Checked it :)

Why is the premium better? I've heard it's the same board minus one LAN port or something like that.

I'd go for the DFI but it's too expensive (almost 100EUR more expensive in my country). The new DFI P35 DK is out of stock everywhere here... (it's cheaper then the p5k-e wifi by about 10 euro :)).

[Aerou]

some components are of better quality, but not that much, it has a different cooling solution and two LAN controllers, that should be it

[basco]

blue box comes with official 45nm support

[AriciU]

I got it :D

It's the blue box. P5k-e WiFi edition. Loving it so far. I've put the 0602 bios on it (came with 0502 i think).

Can finally get 1.57v REAL and STABLE. :up:

Currently Orthos'ing at 3722Mhz, stable for like 10mins. It used to error out with max voltage on my DS3R after like half a minute :clap:

[AriciU]

If it doesn't error at this clock in half an hour or so i'm dropping the vcore, see how much it really needs. Anything above this speed and i get blue screen after starting Orthos and need to reboot.

Quite a big jump from my previous 3600mhz (8x450) stable at max 1.59v in bios (1.52v after load :mad:) :up:

I have some questions though. When i boot up there is a screen showing the Marvel lan controller and my IDE HDD, it's asking me to press any key to continue (goes away by itself after like 5-10secs or so). It's annoying and i dunno how to turn it off. Any idea?

Also, everest doesn't show my RAM vcore anymore. I may be paranoid but i need to check it. Bios doesn't show it also.

What is CPU Voltage reference? I left it at auto.

What is CPU PLL voltage and NB voltage reference? Left both at auto.

Also, the Asus tweaker utility does not work for some reason. Windoze throws an error when i try to start it. Asus AL Suite to be exact.

Here's the screen btw. Awesome mobo! :up: (I'm now at 15mins orthos, still no error :yepp: ).

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/931/p5kelf0.th.jpg (http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p5kelf0.jpg)

[tuanming]

I got 2 version of P5k-e wifi-ap boards :D just for fun...not that im planning to keep both of them :p

Rev.1.02G (have an extra power phase near the 4/8 pin power connector)

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2584/dsc06769qb4.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06769qb4.jpg)

Rev.1.01G (same as the above)

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1691/dsc06774zr7.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06774zr7.jpg)

[Aerou]

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2757/copyofdsc06646ij6.jpg

nice observation ... I didnt want to try that one, but also suspected

[[LCN]Knowledge]

lol, nice find Aerosupra. So, this P5K-E/wifi use the same PCB as the Deluxe version =D

[tuanming]

That because it's a revison 1.00g ;) Rev. 1.01g and up have its own name :D And it officially support 45nm (said so on the blue box).

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/599/dsc06802jw5.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06802jw5.jpg)http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6290/dsc06805bo6.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06805bo6.jpg)

[Raver]

I too have the Rev.1.02G with BIOS 0702

I noticed I was missing the SpeedStep Enable/Disable option, can someone else confirm this.

ADVANCED
CPU Configuration
Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech. [ENABLE/DISABLE] <--- Missing this Option

Also what is the default voltage I need to set for my Intel Core2Duo E6750, so that I can verify the Vdroop.

Right now I have it on AUTO
CPU Voltage [Auto]
CPU Voltage Reference [Auto]
CPU Voltage Damper [Enabled]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]

In Hardware Monitor I see.
VCORE Voltage [1.240V]
In CPUID I see 1.240V ~ 1.248V
In PC Probe I see 1.24V ~ 1.25V


As a test I set it to 1.250V
CPU Voltage [1.2500V]
CPU Voltage Reference [Auto]
CPU Voltage Damper [Enabled]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]

In Hardware Monitor I see
VCORE Voltage [1.144V]
In CPUID I see 1.144V
In PC Probe I see 1.14V

A diffrence of 0.106V!

Is it true that if I want to oveclock I need to put the memory sticks in the black channels?

[AriciU]

Anyone installed a heatsink over their mosfets? Like it's on the Deluxe version. Something like a Thermalright HR-09. You guys think that would help or is it not needed?

[Aerou]

if you can, get two HR-09 type2 over them, I am personally going too - clocking a quad-core and they get toasty! Of course it helps!

[C0ncrete]

Anyone installed a heatsink over their mosfets? Like it's on the Deluxe version. Something like a Thermalright HR-09. You guys think that would help or is it not needed?

Use black if you have ram with tighter timings.
I have Ballistix in the black and its no worries.

Just confirming I also got the blue box and a Rev 1.02g.

We seem to be having better success with these news boards :)

[Chri$ch]

Hi guys,

i have a problem, i flashed bios 0901 but have now often freeze and boot problems.

But i cant flash back to an older bios, not with EZ Flash and Asus Update..

Any idea? :(


Thanks
Chris

[TigerFury]

if you can, get two HR-09 type2 over them, I am personally going too - clocking a quad-core and they get toasty! Of course it helps!

I'm also going to buy this mobo and considering an overclock on a q6600. Since I'm a n00b on c2d overclock could u guys point out the mosfets in this picture:
http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06774zr7.jpg
I want to cool the mosfets since it seems to be important for a sucessfull overclock :)

[AriciU]

The first ones are covered by the stock heatsink, the one directly above the CPU. The second mosfets are to the right of the CPU, they are actually surrounded by a rectangle with the letters Heatsink next to it. The Deluxe has the stock heatsink/pipe covering this area as well.

I'd say you're good with only one TR mosfet heatsink covering only those... check thermalright.com for your mobo info... they tell you which to use over there (they have 2 diff mosfet heatsinks).

If I were to remove the stock heatpipe to cool both mosfet banks with thermalright HS's then I would definately add 2 x thermalright chipset HS's as well, for good looks :)

[TigerFury]

I think I'm gonna get some of these for the ones on the right and call it a day. Low on €€ :down:
Coolermaster Little Chip
http://www.compuline.it/storage/prodotti/13458.jpg

[Aerou]

I am gettin crazy with OC a Q6600 in this board - stuck with 0901 BIOS too :( And it got unstable at 3,6 GHz ( 9x400 ) so increased the voltages ... nothing. Later I DECREASED voltages and now I am running a Q6600 at 3601MHz at 1,28V ! Dont know what to think of this, but so far Prime-stable , damn

[C0ncrete]

Why are you stuck with 0901?

[AriciU]

Probably because he can't update to an older version after flashing a newer one.

Same question from me...

Anyone know what is CPU Voltage reference, CPU PLL voltage and NB voltage reference?

Anyone know how to make PC Probe II show memory voltage, nb / sb temperature? (saw many people with screens with the program showing those). Mine only shows CPU temp, Motherboard temp, cpu vcore, fan speeds and 3.3v and such.

[4Qman]

just flashed with 901 not happy and having epic getting back to 602 :(

[Mordorr]

Sorry the oFF:

Today, after receive the board from RMA, i start mount it...

Some pictures...and mods...

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2774/img1373800x600ts0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/715/img1374800x600640x480qu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4643/img1375800x600as2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1839/img1376800x600qg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2023/img1377800x600qm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2776/img1385800x600cz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8931/img1386800x600ey2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


At this moment, i`m using this config:

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8304/cpuizqe6.png (http://imageshack.us)

I also change the Bios to 0602 version....


Now my ultrage and disapointing, with Asus:

I did RMA of this board, because i couldn`t reboot, and didn`t have image...

I made 80Km, to send the Board to the store...

2 weeks after i made i call and it was read, and they told me, by phone, that they didn`t sent it to Holand, because she was ok....:eek: :shrug: :shocked:

Finally, i went to the store.....

So, what was the problem?

We did get off, all my Mushkin memorys, and did use, a cheap, stupid module of memory in the board..

Power it, and.....magic:shocked: she reboot and give image!

On bios, i did increase the voltage of memorys, save it and turn off.

Than i put again my Mushkin, and everthing now is ok...

Moral of this history:

Tks to incompetence of Asus, we all should have a cheap, piece of trash memory, to recory from bad OC, since they use less voltage.......:shakes: :shakes:

By the way....is my revision 1.00, read to 45nn CPU`s?:rolleyes:

[Aerou]

did anybody find a way to get an old BIOS to flash other than using the bad-flash & recovery CD method? I dont want to go that road. It also feels retarted not being able to flash other BIOS versions ... wtg Asus :mad:

After first nice impressions with the board I am starting to hate a bit, and I hate my self for changing the BIOS from 0603, since it was shipped with the board adn gave me a stable OC




By the way....is my revision 1.00, read to 45nn CPU`s?:rolleyes:
got a spare qx9650? :D

[Mordorr]

ehehehehehe......not for now...:rofl:

I did jump from 0504, to 0602, this way:

Burn a CD-RW with 0602 rom version...

Went to Bios, and load it, from the CD....

I ear, that with this method, you can go back, to old version of Bios...:up:

I hope i did help:cool:

[4Qman]

did anybody find a way to get an old BIOS to flash other than using the bad-flash & recovery CD method? I dont want to go that road. It also feels retarted not being able to flash other BIOS versions ... wtg Asus :mad:

After first nice impressions with the board I am starting to hate a bit, and I hate my self for changing the BIOS from 0603, since it was shipped with the board adn gave me a stable OC



got a spare qx9650? :D

EXACTLY my problem, tryed all dos flashing utilities with no luck.

ANYONE got a method that works?

[4Qman]

Mordorr
Got it

Use AsusUpdate
Check in the Options the downgrade option
Update by file
and done

thanks too jVIDIA

[cnumartyr]

Probably because he can't update to an older version after flashing a newer one.

Same question from me...

Anyone know what is CPU Voltage reference, CPU PLL voltage and NB voltage reference?

Anyone know how to make PC Probe II show memory voltage, nb / sb temperature? (saw many people with screens with the program showing those). Mine only shows CPU temp, Motherboard temp, cpu vcore, fan speeds and 3.3v and such.

CPU/NB Voltage References are for the GTL Ref for the CPU/NB. CPU PLL is the Phase Locked Loop voltage for setting the CPU clock. More PLL will generally raise the FSB wall but PLL is very sensitive and will degrade quickly. Intel max PLL Spec is something like 1.6v.

If you figure out how to show all the other temps let me know, my P5K-E shows just the basics.

[AriciU]

CPU/NB Voltage References are for the GTL Ref for the CPU/NB. CPU PLL is the Phase Locked Loop voltage for setting the CPU clock. More PLL will generally raise the FSB wall but PLL is very sensitive and will degrade quickly. Intel max PLL Spec is something like 1.6v.

If you figure out how to show all the other temps let me know, my P5K-E shows just the basics.

Thanks. I'll play around with the PLL voltage and see if i can get the damn thing stable at this speed and voltage with Orthos/Prime95 for more then 2-4 hours (it reboots after few hours now). I'll post here if i figure out how to make the damn software show more temps and voltages.

[ChuckM]

Bios downgrade off the Asus forums

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20071213160605953&board_id=1&model=P5K-E&#37;2fWiFi-AP&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

Happy Holidays

[Doom5]

Which board is better/easier to overclock, this Asus p5k-E or the MSI P35 Neo2?

[jettasin00]

Im looking to pick this board and just want to see if you would highly suggest this board. Looking also at the IP35-E. Just trying to see what to step up to. TIA

[AriciU]

Im looking to pick this board and just want to see if you would highly suggest this board. Looking also at the IP35-E. Just trying to see what to step up to. TIA

I was in your same shoes two days ago and i've picked this. Don't regret it one bit. Dunno how the Abit is but the voltage options on this board are killer!

Only bad thing is that you can't monitor your nb / sb and dram voltage for some reason (i can't anyway). Emailed Asus about that.

[jettasin00]

i use wireless in the house and how is the wireles receiver.

[C0ncrete]

For those that need to downgrade I simply used a USB thumb drive and used Ezy Flash in the bios.

No worries.

[ChuckM]

It looks like the Abit IP35-E is being phased out. The only place I've found that still has them listed is Directron.com.

[vocch]

Im looking to pick this board and just want to see if you would highly suggest this board. Looking also at the IP35-E. Just trying to see what to step up to. TIA

Go for Asus P5K-E as the Abit ip35-e has bad vdroop/drop...and the Asus was the better clocker out of what i tried.

[Zero939]

anything after bios 602 just has a bug, in which .1 needs to be added to mimic any bios 602 and below. my overclock is the exact same with any bios, and so im loving this board except for an IDE drive detection issue which seems fairly common :(.

[jpcastro]

alo, first of all good christmas for everyone :D

just want to ask if is there anyone here that has tried a QX9650 on a P5K-E ?

how are the results? is a X38 board really needed?

thanks :up:

[Aerou]

just want to ask if is there anyone here that has tried a QX9650 on a P5K-E ?
:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2629333&postcount=1 :D

[AriciU]

I've emailed Asus about the temperature monitoring issue i'm having and their response was that i should use the latest pcprobe/everest (already have the latest) and update the bios to latest 0901. I've heard that bios is awfull so not gonna happen :)

Anyone with a newer bios then 0602 can confirm that his PC Probe / Everest shows NB/SB temps + DRAM voltage ?

[cnumartyr]

I've emailed Asus about the temperature monitoring issue i'm having and their response was that i should use the latest pcprobe/everest (already have the latest) and update the bios to latest 0901. I've heard that bios is awfull so not gonna happen :)

Anyone with a newer bios then 0602 can confirm that his PC Probe / Everest shows NB/SB temps + DRAM voltage ?

That sounds like pretty standard response... :(

[Raver]

This is with BIOS 0703

Everything is set to AUTO
SpeedStep is working, changing my multi to 6 when idle.
Which temp do I trust to be accurate, I'm leaning towards CoreTemp's and Everest readings.
Anyone knows why Intel Thermal Analysis Tool is reporting my temp lower than Everest and Core Temp, does it have to do with some kind of delta calculation?

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8413/p5ktempsoc3200ce6.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p5ktempsoc3200ce6.jpg)

Update.
Had to turn off PC Probe, 2 alarms went off for no reason, 1st indicating vCore @ 0V and then CPU fan @ 0RPM...

Here is a screenie at idle, SpeedStep kicking in.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9749/p5koc2400up5.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p5koc2400up5.jpg)

[Mordorr]

A litle OFF:

I did upgrade to 0602 Bios....

Everything runs fine except i do have a beep about a fan CPU on the Boot...

How do i shut up it?

I do have a extra fan ON, butmy CPU uses Watercooling.....:rolleyes:

Merry Christmas everbody!:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Raver]

Got to Hardware Monitor in BIOS and I think you can choose Ignore for the fan there.

[AriciU]

Hardware monitoring in the bios. Put cpu fan as Ignored.

[Mordorr]

Thank you all!

Tomorow i will put it, off!:D


Merry Christmas!:up:

[vocch]

anything after bios 602 just has a bug, in which .1 needs to be added to mimic any bios 602 and below. my overclock is the exact same with any bios, and so im loving this board except for an IDE drive detection issue which seems fairly common :(.

Mine came shipped with 0603 date 01 sep 2007 and is fine.:)

[DAK1640]

Any reason to update BIOS from 404 to 603 ?

[jpcastro]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2629333&postcount=1 :D

hy

i have seen that result but just wanna know if "normal" users can show their experience with P35+QX9650 45nm :D

BTW i´m using the 0803 in the P5K-E normal version and diden´t notice diferences from previous 0503, it was just a cpu support list update?

:up:

[vocch]

Any reason to update BIOS from 404 to 603 ?

If it's doing what it's supposed to without any problems i'd leave it...i think newer bios are just to support the latest chips...so no reason to update unless your getting a new cpu.

[coldpower27]

Go for Asus P5K-E as the Abit ip35-e has bad vdroop/drop...and the Asus was the better clocker out of what i tried.

Hey mind uploading your BIOS? I flashed to 901 thinking it was a good upgrade and would like the 603 BIOS again.

[Aerou]

same here, desperate for the 0603

[Mordorr]

I`m confused...:confused:

Is it 603 or 602?:shrug:

Im using 0602......:up:

Update:

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5106/3500wq3.png (http://imageshack.us)



What you thing, people?

I wish i could pass the FSB to 500, but at 445, i do have problems...

Maybe i should use another configuration on the timmings of the memories?

Another question:

What software "on the fly" can we use to play with the FSB on the windows?

On old days of the Nforce 2, i did use a lot Clock Generator.....



Tks in advance,

[cnumartyr]

Drop the performance level a bit, that might help reaching higher FSB levels.

[Mordorr]

Hi.

What do you mean by performance level?

I can`t reach more, than 445, even with a lower multiplier...;)


Tks,

[Shark-357]

I`m confused...:confused:



What software "on the fly" can we use to play with the FSB on the windows?

On old days of the Nforce 2, i did use a lot Clock Generator.....



Tks in advance,

U can use Setfsb in win... http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/download/beta/setfsb20b18l.zip

[candida]

Hi could you tell me what are the safe voltage for mobo and CPU, for CPU PLL Voltage and FSB Termination Voltage. I have PLL Auto, 1.5 and 1.7v options, and for FSB Termination choices from 1.2 to 1.5v.
it is safe to run PLL on 1,7v and 1.5v on FSB Termination , i have more stable pc at higher fsb clock.

[Aerou]

I`m confused...:confused:

Is it 603 or 602?:shrug:



the BIOS that I am seeking is really 0603,

0602 is beta and available on the Asus site, but 0603 for some reason not! I dont know if the 0603 is just for 1.01G boards or (or older revs) or what, but it was the only BIOS for me to have 3600 stable on my q6600

to vocch: what boards revision do you please have? it is written right above the first PCI-E 16x slot, thx

[barzi]

I'm thinking of getting this bord. But i'm doubting between this board and the Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R. Which is more stable and is better in overclocking?

[Aerou]

I'm thinking of getting this bord. But i'm doubting between this board and the Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R. Which is more stable and is better in overclocking?

better in overclocking ... P5K all the way
better in stabilty ... I personally still cant tell

[Mordorr]

the BIOS that I am seeking is really 0603,

0602 is beta and available on the Asus site, but 0603 for some reason not! I dont know if the 0603 is just for 1.01G boards or (or older revs) or what, but it was the only BIOS for me to have 3600 stable on my q6600

to vocch: what boards revision do you please have? it is written right above the first PCI-E 16x slot, thx


Hi.

Strange, since i do 3600MHZ hiper stable, with only 1.40vcore....

Did you try the Pencil trick, to the Mobo?

If you want my configuration, on the Bios, i can post it here:p:

Anyway, didn`t now about that bios 0603...i would apreciate a link, to get a copy, to my collection:cool:

Beta or not, im enjoing this 0602......

My next goal, will be pass the 445FSb 1:1 barrier.....:rolleyes:

Shark-357

Thanks!

[Aerou]

Hi.

Strange, since i do 3600MHZ hiper stable, with only 1.40vcore....

Did you try the Pencil trick, to the Mobo?

If you want my configuration, on the Bios, i can post it here:p:

Anyway, didn`t now about that bios 0603...i would apreciate a link, to get a copy, to my collection:cool:

Beta or not, im enjoing this 0602......

My next goal, will be pass the 445FSb 1:1 barrier.....:rolleyes:

Shark-357

Thanks!

ok, it MAY help, so ,if you are willing , could you post your BIOS settings and board revision?

I dont know what is wrong, but I can do 3600 (400x9) even at 1,34V, a couple of Prime95 rounds complete, without any errors, but out of nowhere, the system restarts. Another strange thing to note is, that if I put more than 1.6V PLL and 1,3 FSB voltage, it restarts even on Windows load, completely unstable ... really strange. More than 1,45V ... also unstable, even on lower clocks, just restarts ...

Tryed all sorts of BIOSes and voltage options, nothin, just the same restart

[Mordorr]

No problem!

I have it at 3530MHZ, but i didn`t change a lot in Bios...

the revision is 1.00.

I also use a good watercool system, very good airflow and ramsincks extra, from thermaltake...

And a big 120mm over them:D

Later, at home, i will give you photos of the Bios, to share with the comunity also:up:

Mordorr

P.S. Didn´t find the 0603 bios, except for the Deluxe version....i wonder if they aren`t the same board....since my PBc says under Deluxe....:shrug:

[Aerou]

since your board is rev1.00,
is anyone here running a quad on a rev. 1.01 board? if yes, what is your amxfsb?

[Mordorr]

Well, there you have my Bios configs::up:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/661/img1388640x480ly8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/2636/img1389640x480af8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/268/img1390640x480ic8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I didn`t change a lot, except FSB and the multiplier....

I hope did help you;)


About 0603 Bios, can someone give here a link, or upload?:welcome:

[Aerou]

thanks a lot Mordorr, now I am really certain that there is something with my board ... your settings dont work for me, just restarts, like it always does. For example, if I set 1,4V CPU voltage in BIOS, it boots, but if I set 1,45V it immediatly restarts after POST, during Win bootup ... sux

[Mordorr]

Maybe this configuration, is a litle diferent for you....

I do use a Q6600 G0 + Mushkin 8500 2G....

Is doesn`t seems to be problem of Juice, since i do use a less strong Power Suply, with only 475Wts...:shrug:

Maybe is your CPU limitation?

Can you use it in other Board?

Mordorr

P.S. In the setfsb, wich clockgenerator should i use?

Tks,

[vocch]

the BIOS that I am seeking is really 0603,

0602 is beta and available on the Asus site, but 0603 for some reason not! I dont know if the 0603 is just for 1.01G boards or (or older revs) or what, but it was the only BIOS for me to have 3600 stable on my q6600

to vocch: what boards revision do you please have? it is written right above the first PCI-E 16x slot, thx

Hi m8...it is 1.01g...if someone can tell me how/where to upload 0603 i will do so.:)

[Aerou]

vocch, save it via Asus UPDATE, than you can send it on my mail aerosupraATseznamDOTcz and then, I will make it publicly available via my server
And BTW, could you post your settings for the 3,6GHz?

[vocch]

vocch, save it via Asus UPDATE, than you can send it on my mail aerosupraATseznamDOTcz and then, I will make it publicly available via my server
And BTW, could you post your settings for the 3,6GHz?

Hi Aerosupra...i used asus update but it did not show what file it was...so i thought it would be better to save in EZ flash so it would be a ROM file...i have rar'ed it and just sent...good luck m8.:)

Edit: As to o/c settings ....i am using 9x400 with 1.45vcore...mem 5-5-5-18...running @960mhz@2.0v and that's it...the rest are left on auto.

[Mordorr]

Hi!

I would be interested in that Bios too....

Soon, could one of you, do a upload to a site?:clap:

Tks in advance! :up:

[Aerou]

ok, here are some bioses for the p5k-e on my server:

0503.ROM (ftp://195.47.0.43/0503.ROM)
0602.ROM (ftp://195.47.0.43/0602.ROM) beta
0603.ROM (ftp://195.47.0.43/0603.ROM) thanks to Vocch! :toast:
0806.ROM (ftp://195.47.0.43/0806.ROM) huge Vdrop, WiFi - cant disable
0901.ROM (ftp://195.47.0.43/0901.ROM) huge Vdrop

[Mordorr]

Aerosupra

Many tks, and also Vocch!

I could notice, that 0603, has 2MB is this a "default" Bios configuration?

Or some kind of image and backup?

If so, maybe should, after install, load defaults, and make a new image/copy, no?

Anyway,

Soon i full explore this Beta version, i will give a try:cool: :yepp: :up:

Mordorr

[Crazykooter]

Here is my most recent prime run and highest attempt on my q6600 for 24/7 stable. Bios settings are pretty much default. All I changed was fsb .Multi, cpu voltage and cpu ,pcie spread spectrum to disabled. There really isnt a need for upping the other voltages. My board is a 1.01 btw. If you want a screen of bios just let me know.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/998/3880mhz11hrprimevq3.th.jpg (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3880mhz11hrprimevq3.jpg)

[Mordorr]

Dam...

485FSB:eek:

I wish my rig could do the same......

The guilty here:

CPU?
Memories?
Board 1.00 rev.?






Me?:rofl:

Well, my PC will still be ON 24 hours, but i will go on vacations for the next days....

Experiences will continue next week:up:

[Aerou]

damn, the 0603 made no difference for me and the quad, so a have put in my trusted 1 year old lapped e6600 and .... no high-voltage problems, totally stable and I could push my cpu to its limits (so far 3800MHz 1,48V - load)
a hope my other X38 board arrives soon, so can can put that damn quad under the scope - really weird, that it becomes unstable at 1,4V and higher no matter what frequency, I still blame the board ...

[Crazykooter]

damn, the 0603 made no difference for me and the quad, so a have put in my trusted 1 year old lapped e6600 and .... no high-voltage problems, totally stable and I could push my cpu to its limits (so far 3800MHz 1,48V - load)
a hope my other X38 board arrives soon, so can can put that damn quad under the scope - really weird, that it becomes unstable at 1,4V and higher no matter what frequency, I still blame the board ...

I have heard the X38 boards do oc pretty well but they suffer from some of the same problems that the P35 do. Good luck to ya.

[Mordorr]

I hear the same....no big diferences between P35 and P38...

Maybe a P48....:D

Anyway, can you use yor CPU in other Board?

Is your CPU G0, or B3?

That could make all diference......:cool:

[jVIDIA]

2mb bios file for the 0603 ?!

[Crazykooter]

2mb bios file for the 0603 ?!

LOL ya good thing I have a 2 gb flash drive. :) What ever you do dont go near the 0901 bios. What a nightmare that was. I couldnt flash back no matter what I did until I got a link on here for a asus update that worked and boy was I freaked to have to flash in windows.

[Aerou]

the quad is a L731 G0 Q6600 , it is a nightmare, a spent two days tryin all bioses, voltage, pencil mod, extreme pwm cooling ... nothin, that son of a silicon aint stable. Really strange, when I set voltages more than 1,4 V (real) cpu, or 1,6V PLL or 1,4 FSB or 1,55V Vnb it locks up and reboots even during Win bootup, with the E6600 I can rocket those voltage to 1,55Vcpu, 1,8Vpll, 1,5Vfsb, 1,7Vnb without a problem! its a nightmare for me. Another thing a have noticed is that the cpu had marks after a heatsink installation, scrathes on the surface - does it happen with a brand new, sealed cpu? I had a uncomfortly feeling about it, but I dont know what to think of it, since it had a " Intel factory sealed " sticker and the box was unopened ...

[vocch]

The marks on cpu is normal...it seems you have one of the not so good quads.:(

[Mordorr]

I confirm that too...

If you go post 141, you will see a litle mark, on the mine, too...

Maybe your CPU isn`t so good....

I do have also some dificulties in reaching 4G....and i even did try Prime95:D


Ola Jvidia:up:

[Aerou]

I would understand if the cpu wouldnt clock, but I can run Prime without erros for about 1 minute, sometimes 2 minutes and then ... REBOOT again. Also, how can it become unstable by throwing 1,45V into it?

here is the cpu (I marked the scratches the cpu came with):
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/fc3e322c77.jpg

[spider_d]

Hey,

I got the P5K-E/WiFi last week and installed it. Cooling mosfets with thermalright Hr-09 type 2 (pics to follow)(hardmounted). Cooling NB/SB with thermaltake extreme spirit II heatsinks. Cooling E6600 with water. 850watt antec TPQ PSU, 2gb Pc2-6400 corsair xms2 (5-5-5-15-2T, 2.10volts)

I installed bios 0901 before finding out about the vdroop. I can not return to 0602, 0603, or anything else. I have tried EZ flash in the bios, and Asus update utility in windows Vista 32bit. Update utility says "Bios image can't use in this motherboard. The EEPROM type incompatible." EZ Falsh says the bios is older than the 0901 bios, which is obviously correct.

Can some one suggest another method of downgrading bios to 0602?

I can not understand this method.
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20071213160605953&board_id=1&model=P5K-E&#37;2fWiFi-AP&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

Used these guides.
http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardware/110267-c2d-overclocking-guide-beginners-p5k-add.html
http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/269638-asus-p5k-e-thread.html

Did vdroop mod from page 1 of this thread, brought up the droop a little. Still a large gap, almost 0.1 volts

[Rovtar]

in asus update go to options and then check the box before bios downgradable

[Aerou]

for me the downgrade option didnt work for 0901, so I did this:


prepare desired bios and rename to P5KE.ROM and put it on a FDD/CD/DVD/pendrive
start updating the 0901 with 0901 using EZ flash
during the process restart/shutoff
during next restart, the Crashfree feature starts looking for a medium with the P5KE.ROM file - insert the media
let flash complete - and there U have it - never use 0901 again ;)

... remember, its always at your own risk!

Other BIOSes (for example 0806 into 0602) can be easily downgraded through Asus UPDATE setting the 'Downgradeable" option in settings

... GOOD LUCK :toast:

[spider_d]

Thanks, except bios can not be downgraded through Asus update program on my motherbaord. I have checked the 'downgradable' option in the program and started receiving the message, "Bios image can't use in this motherboard. The EEPROM type incompatible." This is not the same message that I recieved before checking the 'downgradable' option.

I will try your method Aerosupra. Hopefully I can confirm success with this method in the next few minutes.

[Aerou]

in case of a flashdisk (pendrive), use HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool, so that EZ Flash has no problems, just for safety

[vocch]

for me the downgrade option didnt work for 0901, so I did this:


prepare desired bios and rename to P5KE.ROM and put it on a FDD/CD/DVD/pendrive
start updating the 0901 with 0901 using EZ flash
during the process restart/shutoff
during next restart, the Crashfree feature starts looking for a medium with the P5KE.ROM file - insert the media
let flash complete - and there U have it - never use 0901 again ;)

... remember, its always at your own risk!

Other BIOSes (for example 0806 into 0602) can be easily downgraded through Asus UPDATE setting the 'Downgradeable" option in settings

... GOOD LUCK :toast:


When you tried downgrading did you use older updater like AsusUpdt61002 as seen a few saying it works.

[mft4]

i used the AsusUpdt61002 like others and it worked a treat, thanks a lot guys.
:D

[spider_d]

Aerosupra's method worked. Downgraded to 0602 without trouble. I was using AsusUpdt_v71304 from the Asus site.

Thanks for your help. I will post a few pictures tomorrow of the cooling solution. I will also play with the Bios and try to reach 4.0 tonight.

Any suggestions on NB/SB and other voltages?

[Rovtar]

why to 0602?

use 0603.. its way better bios than 0602.. i can now easily achieve 3,6GHz on my e6750 for 24/7

[Aerou]

agree, 0603 works better, now, since you haven't got a 0901, you can change your bios without the Crash-method

here are some P5K-E wifi BIOSes:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2657827&postcount=191

[mft4]

when you say 603 is better, are you referring to being more stable, or other reason?.

[Aerou]

I can push FSB a little further, but Vcore is more stable (unless you have already pencil modded your board)

[AriciU]

I've tried to update from 0602 to 0603 using the EZ Flash thingy in the bios but it said "boot block not valid in file" or something like that when checking the 0603 ROM. :shrug:

[vocch]

Make sure usb is formatted before you put a rom on.

[AriciU]

Formated and retried. Same error msg :/

[Rovtar]

update using asus update in windows..

no problems

[spider_d]

Thanks fellas, I see that 0602 is much easier to overclock then 0901 and am going to give 0603 a try now. I can easily hit 4.0 on my e6600, with nothing but Vcore voltage changes. However, the temps are to high for 24/7 so I will be runnning 3.6.

I have encountered a few issues. I can not set memory timing to 1T. I does not matter what I do with other settings. This was not a problem with my 680i board.

Everest benchmark shows a large drop in memory read (20&#37;) and increase in memory latency times (70.8ns vs. 57ns). And the worst part is that I am overclocking the memory and cpu more than I was when I got higher scores! Memory write scores show 10% increase and memory copy scores are nearly identical.

Last issue, my video card is running slow. 3dmark06 is running at 30FPS instead of 90FPS in the first test. I am about to re-install the drivers and see what happens. Is there a setting in bios that I have disabled that affects GPU performance?

[spider_d]

Update: flashed bios to 0603 and now have GPU at normal level of performance. It might be a driver conflict with older BIOS or a hardware issue because the new 8800GT support PCIE2.0. I do not know, but am glad that it is working now.

Time to overclock

[spider_d]

Well, here is the problem. My GPU starts running slow when I overclock past 3200MHz. At 3600 my 8800GT is running at 30FPS. At 3200 my GPU is running at 80FPS.

The only changes that I have made between the two CPU clocks are FSB and Vcore, so somehow one of these settings is slowing GPU performance.

Anyone seen this before? Any solutions?

[AriciU]

Check your pcix speed if it's set at 16x. Also try setting the pcix clock at 100mhz in the bios.

[Mordorr]

Hi.

Nice to see people excange new experiences...

Im on vacations, so no acess to my rig....

Im thinking to try 0603.....but before new update, should i do a default reading in the Bios?

And them update?

cheers,:up:

[spider_d]

AriciU, where is the pcix setting to 16x? I set PCIE clock to 100. I still get slow FPS at higher clocks than 3200.

Anyone know about the PCI/PEG setting and Asus cross graphic impeller?

[AriciU]

I don't think you can set it at 16x anywhere. You can check the speed it's running on using CPU-Z, under the Mainboard section.

[Crazykooter]

Depending on your video card determains where to set pci-e speed. I have a 3870 and I need to run it at 110 + to get the best overclocks. Its very common. Also if you exceed 120 your gonna drop your os flat on its face. So keep it at 115 max imo.
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8103/4230mhz1632vcore12262spux9.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4230mhz1632vcore12262spux9.jpg)
Heres is a link to my highest mhz run in 3dmark06-4230 and I think I could get this thing stable at this mhz but I dont want to run 1.6v all the time.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4423586

Here are some screens I took of my bios cept the vcore is now lower.

http://rapidshare.com/files/79912806/bios_screen_shot_1.JPG
http://rapidshare.com/files/79912897/bios_screenshot_2.JPG
http://rapidshare.com/files/79912898/bios_screenshot_3.JPG
http://rapidshare.com/files/79912899/temp_reading_8c.JPG

[spider_d]

I tryed flashing back up to 0901, but have the same results. Low FPS in game and 3dmark. I checked PCIE setting between 100 -120 without change and tried your settings Crazykooter.

I just checked CPU-Z and found in the mainboard tab that the link width is x1and max supported is x16. I am going to set bios to stock and check to see if these settings change.

Thanks for the help so far. I will mention that the pencil mod has me overvolting by 0.03 in bios 0603 and undervolting by 0.06 in 0901 bios. So, I like the 0603 bios because I can set my Vcore to 1.45 and reach 3.6 stable with a PCprobe reading of 1.47, no vdroop under load.

[spider_d]

yep, there it is. With bios set to stock, CPU-Z reports link width as x16. So, something past 355 FSB is lowering the link width to x1 and killing my GPU performance. Any suggestions?

[mft4]

yep, there it is. With bios set to stock, CPU-Z reports link width as x16. So, something past 355 FSB is lowering the link width to x1 and killing my GPU performance. Any suggestions?

I had the same problem on my p5b, anything above 375 fsb resulted in 1x PCIE. i got around it be upping the sb vcore slightly.

[vocch]

Hi.

Nice to see people excange new experiences...

Im on vacations, so no acess to my rig....

Im thinking to try 0603.....but before new update, should i do a default reading in the Bios?

And them update?

cheers,:up:

Yip...you should never update bios when overclocked...allways set it to default first.

[spider_d]

I notice now that I am getting x1 link width with 3200MHz too. That's 355 FSB. I will try the SB voltage up. I have NB at 1.55, and both NB/SB are under thermaltake extreme spirit II with 120mm fans blowing at them, so temps should be fine. I'll be out for a while but will report back tonight

[jgxworker]

Just installed my P5K-E. Its revision 1.01G and came with bios 0603. Testing my old-school conroe E6600 @3.6GHz stable right now. More results will come next week.

[sam95ta]

I thought bios 603 was for P5k Deluxe.No where do I see 603 for P5K E.

[Aerou]

I thought bios 603 was for P5k Deluxe.No where do I see 603 for P5K E.

dont know why, but I couldnt find it also available, although my P5K-E was shipped with the 0603
If you cant find BIOSes here are some:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2657827&postcount=191

[spider_d]

I bumped up the SB to 1.2volts. Thats the max. No change. Still x1 link width when overclocking. NB voltage up to 1.55 with no change. Some setting is lowering the linnk width from x16 to x1 whenever I overclock.

[spider_d]

I think that I have found the answer. Here it is;

7. If you are experiencing a jerky desktop, slow graphics performance, low framerates etc or any other kind of graphical corruption (this is mainly for Asus boards), load up CPU-Z and in the section that tells you about your motherboard, look at the bottom where it says something like PCI-E Link Width, it may have changed itself to 1x instead of 16x (this happened to me yesterday), so to fix it, go into the bios and cheange the PCI-E frequency from AUTO to 110 (you can try any value up to 110), save and exit, boot into windows and check with CPU-Z that the PCI-E Link Width is now set to 16x. If it is still at 1x, repeat what you just did, but up the PCI-E frequency another notch, check with CPU-Z and if it is back to 16x, go back to the bios and change it back to auto, and hopefully, it should be fine
http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclocking/1-c2d-overclocking-guide-beginners.html

In the troubleshooting section. I am going to try it now

[jettasin00]

well i ordered my P5K-E the other day. waiting for it to arrive with my ballistix 8500. cant wait to push this around

[barzi]

I want to buy a e8400(45nm cpu) but i now have bios 0603. 0703 was already installed but it had a huge vdrop.
Now everything is allright, but i want to sell my e6600 tomorrow. So from which bios can i run e8400? So i can update to that bios, otherwise i can't start my computer if i got the e8400.

So since which bios is 45nm cpu's (specially e8400) supported?

If i look at the supported CPU list I see that the Core 2 Extreme QX9650 is supported since 0903. That's a 45nm cpu, right? But is this for ALL the 45nm cpu's?
And if this is right, the box of my p5k-e is wrong. They say: 45nm support. But i had bios 0703..

[spider_d]

This is a good question from barzi. Which bios supports 45nm chips?

[Crazykooter]

I believe its the 0901 which is the worst bios yet.

Has anyone here reseated there northbridge heatsink to see if better thermal compound is making a diff ?

[barzi]

0603 is a very decent bios, but if i want to e8400 i have to update to 0901, right?

That's too bad :(. What happens if you put a e8400 in the p5k-e with bios 0603? Is it going to start-up but you can't use the bios functions for the cpu (overclock and stuff)? Or will it just shutdown after a few seconds(something like: no cpu)?

[MalaMen]

i think that you can enter in bios even with the 8400... so in this case the worst can happen is that you will have to update it with a pen drive

[barzi]

i think that you can enter in bios even with the 8400... so in this case the worst can happen is that you will have to update it with a pen drive

Hmm ok, that's nice.
But If i wanted to "update" my bios from 0703 to 0603 EZflas said "Not valid boot block", what does that mean? Or is this because i actually wanted to downdate?
I updated it later with the ASUSupdate tool in windows.

[jgxworker]

Still. My mobo said 45NM supporting on the box and came with bios 0603. This means that it only supports the QX9650 with 0603? Its kinda strange though, that it will only support that one and the box says 45NM ready. I don't think that the box is wrong. That would be really stupid. By the way barzi. Is your motherbord a 1.01G or a 1.02G Revision? Because mine 1.01G came with 0603 and yours with 0703.

[mft4]

does anyone know the difference between board revisions?, ie 1.00g 1.01g 1.02g

mine is 1.00g

[mft4]

according to asus the Core 2 Extreme QX9650 is supported from bios 0806

here (http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=P5K-E/WiFi-AP)

[Rocket]

I finally pushed my Q6600 and P5K-E Wifi to 4ghz
Takes alot of v-core to get there though.
I have it set at a sweet spot of 3465mhz (1.27 v-core) prime stable for 24/7 use

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8912/40054mhzjj4.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=40054mhzjj4.jpg)

[Mordorr]

does anyone know the difference between board revisions?, ie 1.00g 1.01g 1.02g

mine is 1.00g


I have also the same question, and the same Board.....

I did look to both, and didn`t see nothing diferent....:shrug:

P.S. Remenber now....number of conectors in the power cable??

[barzi]

Where can you see which rev you have? Cpu-z gives 1.xx..