Getting refrigerants

[n00b 0f l337]

Anyone know where to get r123 or similar in less then 100 lb drums?

[AliG]

sorry, no idea

tried google and seems like they only sell them in 100lb drums, perhaps a local shop would have it?

[tim-]

have you talk to your local supplier if you can take your smaller bottle (3-30lb) ?

normally they can fill your bottle for you.

regards
Tim

[n00b 0f l337]

Local shop doesnt know a gas from dog dookie. R134a is what they "know".
And no local suppliers round here, I order everything online.

[AliG]

that's odd, no idea what you could do since I tried googling r123 and various amounts of it (ie 30lb r123, 50lb r123) and no luck

[killermiller]

Sorry Nol. All the places I looked only sell 100lbs +

[jinu117]

Yup... R123 is used in industrial chiller application (typically water chiller or process water chiller). 100lbs isn't too much there.

[subzeronick]

humm i am not shure but i think one place that i do repairs at they have 100 lbs. dums that i can take form on a weekend or somethin but i hav eto check to see if that is what they use for there smaller system. i know i can get ammonia lol they use that in there bigger coolers but like i said there small i have to check

[teyber]

Hey Nol: my local johnstone doesn't even have r507a :shrug:

Bummer about the refrigerant. I think online is a way better bet also...

[killermiller]

r507 was cheaper from my local Johnstones then it was from r22.com.Plus r22.com wanted to charge me an extra 170 for shipping. Little hint Teyber, go to Johnstonesupply.com and open an account. You will be able to check stock and prices and place orders. You also get a discount. They should be able to special order it for you since it is in the catalog.

[n00b 0f l337]

Maybe becuase your in Alaska killer, but I get all my orders from r22.com for free shipping.

[jinu117]

There is a reason why you are seeing such sympton... and while it seems to be working, you are actually killing energy efficiency to do so. And the reason it is showing that sympton is something else.... lack of balance...

[n00b 0f l337]

Wait what?

[teyber]

yeah you lost me there too jin lol

[n00b 0f l337]

I think he opened the thread where I just posted about better temps by adding r290 to r507a, and posted here instead.
Only flaw to that plan is I've seen power consumption generally drop 1-2% by adding that. R404a is r507a + r134a, r134a does not boil lower, but added in makes the new solution colder, my thought might be to greater compressor cooling as well as oil movement, and r290 performs better then r134a at that function.

[teyber]

sorry to revive a zombie thread...

But i read something earlier today and thought i would tell you. r123 when exposed to male lab rats has caused cancer in the testes and the pancreas... Apparently its really dangerous stuff. Just thought i would let you know...

[n00b 0f l337]

When in doubt, do not breathe refrigerants ;)

[TopherTony]

I thought it was when in doubt, inject straight into eyeball

[teyber]

When in doubt, do not breathe refrigerants ;)


I thought it was when in doubt, inject straight into eyeball

i love my testicles... speak for yourself guys:eek:

[Athanatos]

Local shop doesnt know a gas from dog dookie. R134a is what they "know".
And no local suppliers round here, I order everything online.


looking at thomasnet i can't see anything smaller than 100 lbs, but i think reading this quote from the dupont site should make it evident



Suva® 123 is an HCFC retrofit refrigerant for R-11 in low-pressure centrifugal chillers. New centrifugal equipment designed with Suva® 123 provides excellent energy efficiency. In retrofits of existing centrifugal chillers, systems modifications are often needed to increase capacity or avoid material incompatibility. Consult with the OEM for specific guidance.


if they are marketing it for centrifugal equipment (which are large) they wouldn't make smaller containers seems like

you can always try changing the system to use a refrigerant that comes in a smaller tank :ROTF: :ROTF: