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Infa
11-25-2007, 03:45 AM
Hey, Im going to get my hands on one of these on tuesday, and thought a thread about this mb could help, have noticed that some people allready got one, and more will i think :)

so please post some results and findings etc etc :)
will update with results on my own soon...

Heres some pics and info.

Latest Bios Available: 702 - http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Extreme/ME0702.zip

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/11/22/asus_maximus_formula_and_extreme/4

* Support for Intel LGA775 processors, including the latest 45nm with 800MHz, 1,066MHz or 1,333MHz front side bus
* Intel X38 Northbridge
* Intel ICH9R Southbridge
* Support for up to 8GB DDR3 1,333MHz, 1,066MHz and 1,800/1,600MHz OC memory modes
* Three PCI-Express x16 slots with support for ATI CrossFire technology - either dual graphics PCI-Express x16 at Gen-2.0 or three-way CrossFireX at x16, x8, x8 with the x8s at Gen-1.0
* Two PCI-Express x1 slots
* Two PCI 2.2 slots
* Six SATA 3Gbps ports with Intel Matrix RAID 0, 1, 0+1 and 5
* JMicron JMB363 chipset providing one PATA port and two eSATA 3Gbps ports
* Two Marvell PCI-Express x1 Gigabit Ethernet with teaming function
* Asus SupremeFX II Audio Card with ADI SoundMAX 1988B HD audio codec
* Two Firewire and 12 USB 2.0 ports
* Fusion Watercooling Northbridge Block
* Asus EPU, LCD Poster, AI Gear 3, AI Overclocking, AI Booster, OC Profile, Voltimeter LED, Asus C.P.R, Asus Q-Connector, Asus Q-Fan 2, Asus EZ Flash 2, Asus CrashFree BIOS 3 and Asus MyLogo3

ncnickusa
11-25-2007, 06:55 AM
Bios 702 was removed from Download by ASUS. 802 and 901 are the latest with 901 being BETA. I know you can still down load the Bios 702 from the link you provided but from the Main web site it was removed because of problems!

Infa
11-25-2007, 07:50 AM
aha ok, noticed... will change ...but it was still on the site when i put the link there :)
its still in bios as usual on download?

cant find any of that bios you are talking about .. look for yourself :)

Infa
11-25-2007, 08:32 AM
now i see, you have mixed FORMULA up with the EXTREME edition.. :)

ncnickusa
11-25-2007, 05:21 PM
:hitself: MAXIMUS That's all my eyes looked at and my brain had a :fart:

nut311
11-26-2007, 02:12 PM
woaw this mobo better than "big" regular size.... two chip one passive cooling....

safan80
11-26-2007, 02:19 PM
still no Esata on the back.

GLENBOY
11-26-2007, 02:24 PM
below is link to asus ftp for the maximus extreme software and bios

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Extreme/


latest bios as of 26/11/07 is 802 which i have installed no really obvious benefit but is penryn ready as it allows for .5 multipliers,
500+fsb no problem on this board as with most p35 and x38, really fast board for crossfire paired with ddr3, i can run the pc15000 at 2000mhz plus on this board and pass memtest in windows on stock volts which is 1.9v on these patriots at 9 9 9 28 , still exploring the bios really , lot in here ,

if anyone knows of a new 901 beta bios

anybody whos thinking of replacing the thermal paste on the northbridge do it before you use the board as the paste used set like rock once used a bit

whipped this off the asus formula thread gives some good explanations of bios options
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3156&p=4

any other helpful info i'll post on here ,

personally can't take my e6850 any higher than it was on my p5w dh just over 4 gig so maybe cpu limit or some other bios setting i haven't figured out although i can run this board at the 8 multiplier over 500fsb stably

Infa
11-26-2007, 04:38 PM
Aahhh! :D that was what ive been looking for the 8x500 and ddr2000 STABLE
my p5e3 cant handle 500fsb, tough my cpu CAN handle 4ghz 16h stable..but not on this board! looking forward to play with this, its goin to be my wolfdale board when it gets out :)

is it needed to change the paste on the nb?

GLENBOY
11-26-2007, 04:51 PM
if you check on pc probe the ram seems to get overvolted so 1.9volt set in bios shows 1.97volt in pc probe , i would change the paste as on my motherboard it was like this, half on half off and on the s/bridge and crosslinks itr had those crappy thermal pads if you were going to put replacement paste on the mofsets use artic ceramic instead of artic silver 5 as its a non conductor, i am using the watercooled fusion block as well , seems a good motherboard to me always resumed from over ambitios overclocks, mines still a bit flakey yet still playing about with settings, theres so many

http://gbwatches.com/pics/Dscn0645.jpg

Aivas47a
11-26-2007, 05:17 PM
I've had mine for a few days. Early observations:

According to PC Probe, FSB Termination voltage seems to overvolt -- watch out for that one.

403 has been the best overclocking bios for me so far.

450 fsb with 1:2 ratio runs great off the 266 strap, nice low latencies.

My first time taking a quad core (q6600) to 500 fsb. :D

Pyr0
11-27-2007, 06:08 AM
still no Esata on the back.

there are two eSATA ports on the I/O panel

Pics: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/11/22/asus_maximus_formula_and_extreme/7

Infa
11-27-2007, 08:16 AM
I see 2 MB Temps? what's that about?

Pyr0
11-27-2007, 08:31 AM
looks like MB and NB to me

GLENBOY
11-27-2007, 08:51 AM
have you got your maximus setup now infa , whats your max cpu clock compared to your other boards,same , not as high, higher thanks

peterpiper
11-27-2007, 10:50 AM
have you got your maximus setup now infa , whats your max cpu clock compared to your other boards,same , not as high, higher thanks

Also interested in this, currently have an E6850 maxed at 3.915 on a P5B Deluxe. Expecting my Maximus Extreme any day now, not sure weather to fork out for a Q6600, or maybe stick with E6850 and wait for 45nm? Also looking at that Cellshock Memory, seems to be getting good reviews!!

GLENBOY
11-27-2007, 10:54 AM
Also interested in this, currently have an E6850 maxed at 3.915 on a P5B Deluxe. Expecting my Maximus Extreme any day now, not sure weather to fork out for a Q6600, or maybe stick with E6850 and wait for 45nm? Also looking at that Cellshock Memory, seems to be getting good reviews!!

i'd stick with the 6850 for now the new cheaper 45nm quads are out in roughly a month

peterpiper
11-27-2007, 12:28 PM
Just after reading on another thread that the new yorkies (non qx) are multi locked!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163625

Infa
11-28-2007, 12:16 AM
have you got your maximus setup now infa , whats your max cpu clock compared to your other boards,same , not as high, higher thanks

Im picking it up today at the postal office..
hope that i will mount it today and get it ready :)

I know i can do 4ghz stable atleast on any board..
and 4.2 in 3dmark benches etc..
will post some results later.. :)

And yeah, the cellshocks are great!! its board limited so far... but 2000+ is no problem for the mem itself!
couse i have crash in windows at 2000+ its probably the NB that cant handle it.. couse it is error free in memtest :)

EDIT: you above said, that the temp showed, MB and NB, i thought that MB temp was the NB temp? so what are the MB temp then if not NB..?

GLENBOY
11-28-2007, 07:40 AM
new 803 bios just posted on asus go to the ftp link in my post higher up to get it

Aivas47a
11-28-2007, 09:34 AM
Thanks Glenboy, will give it a try. :up:

GLENBOY
11-28-2007, 01:56 PM
803 bios is the best bios so far , load line calibration works perfectly , seems perfectly stable at 4090 and booted in at that thats at 1.5875 set in bios shows 1.58 in pc probe and 1.576 in cpuz i watched it while doing 1meg super pi and it stayed at that no vdroop
http://gbwatches.com/pics/maximus.jpg

Infa
11-28-2007, 02:49 PM
Now im on my Board :) Feels nice so far..
Bought a Silvertone DA750 at the same time..
my 12v were about 11.59 before hehe...now 12.15 stable :P

anyway, What is the MB temp , where does it measure that?

now in with new bios and OC!

GLENBOY
11-28-2007, 03:05 PM
glad to see your in the maximus club the 803 bios is a lot better than previous , just superpi'd at over4.2ghz at 1.6volt , with the other bioses i needed around 1.65 volt just to be stable over 4ghz so whatever asus has done has done the job, if you get an error with pc probe after a crash just reinstalling it solves it, loadline calibrator works rock solid shows slightly lower values than reported in bios but rock solid and never moves, not a lot more time tonight to play about with it but seems a winner to me

GLENBOY
11-28-2007, 03:07 PM
Now im on my Board :) Feels nice so far..
Bought a Silvertone DA750 at the same time..
my 12v were about 11.59 before hehe...now 12.15 stable :P

anyway, What is the MB temp , where does it measure that?

now in with new bios and OC!

i think the motherboard temp is the pwm measurement

GLENBOY
11-28-2007, 03:34 PM
glad to see your in the maximus club the 803 bios is a lot better than previous , just superpi'd at under4.2ghz at 1.6volt , with the other bioses i needed around 1.65 volt just to be stable over 4ghz so whatever asus has done has done the job, if you get an error with pc probe after a crash just reinstalling it solves it, loadline calibrator works rock solid shows slightly lower values than reported in bios but rock solid and never moves, not a lot more time tonight to play about with it but seems a winner to me

http://gbwatches.com/pics/supmax.jpg

Aivas47a
11-29-2007, 09:36 AM
New bios plays well with yorkfield. 4.4 Ghz on water and I haven't even started pushing it yet:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k255/aivas47a/440x10QX9650.jpg

FSB Term overvolting issue I had before seemed to be a function of early bios; with latest bios FSB Term drops around .04v for me from bios to actual, according to PC Probe.

GLENBOY
11-29-2007, 11:03 AM
nice one, only 1.504 volt as well is the load line calibrator working ok on the yorkfield

Aivas47a
11-29-2007, 12:30 PM
nice one, only 1.54 volt as well is the load line calibrator working ok on the yorkfield

Yes the loadline calibration is working very well now ... vdrop is maybe .01v at this setting, with another .01 vdroop under full load. So far very pleased with the board. :up:

kowa1981
12-01-2007, 11:24 AM
hi,
i have a probleme with this board and corair dominator 1800 cl7
i have test every thing but i can´t run the ram on 1800.
450x6 ram1200 works perfekt
450x6 ram1800 don´t work
the problem is that memtest says 0 errors but 3dmark and prime hangs on at 5-10sec.
i have test bios versions 701,702,802,803 and nothing works.
i have test default settings and i have the same problems.
is the board bad or the ram? or are you thinking that the cpu are bad?

sorry for my english.

greetings kowa

GLENBOY
12-01-2007, 02:36 PM
hiya kowa
what speed are you running 3dmark at and what processor , i have the patriot pc15000 and can bench 3dmark01 at 2012mhz , the board tends to overvolt the ram according to pc probe i get errors on memtest when i run the ram at 2.0v but at 1.94 volt no errors,what volts are you giving the ram 2.0volt ? so if you think its the ram at fault slightly lower the volts on ram and try it

kowa1981
12-01-2007, 05:38 PM
@glenboy
ich have a e6600
i have set 1,94v(real 2v) because when i set it to 2v it becomes 2.06.

i become next week a q6600 pretested @ 4,05ghz (450x9) stabil.

bios settings:
all settings are the maximum that i have tested.


cpu 1,6(real 1,56)
cpuvtt 1,65
fsbt 1,46
nbk 1,45
sbk 1,07 (real 1,075)
sb pll 1,52
dimm 1,94 (real 2), i have test 2v(real 2,06) but the same problem.
dimm vtt auto.
pci 110

cpu features all disabled.
temps from cpu mb gfx ... are ok!
cpu,mb,gfx,hdd are @ watercooling.
here a link to my system
http://www.sysprofile.de/id46864

edit:
i have test 1t and 2t. the same problem.


memtest works with 0 errors! everthing perfekt. but 3dmark games or prime hangs on.

Aivas47a
12-03-2007, 11:29 AM
kowa, honestly I believe this is an issue with the Asus X38 boards. I had a P5E3 Deluxe with the same 1800 C7 Corsair ram. It would boot at 1333 but no higher, no matter what timings or voltages I used. I knew the ram was good because I had used it on a P5K3, so I traded the P5E3 board for a Maximus Extreme. The Corsair runs fine for me on this one, but I have seen at least 3-4 other reports around the web (besides mine and yours) of folks having boot issues with Corsair 1800 C7 + Asus X38.

OBR
12-04-2007, 08:12 AM
How is hot PCIe chip? I am building rig with this mobo, but i want to use my watercool setup and i have only TWO chipset blocks ... ONE for NB, ONE for SB ... is it necessary to active cool that IDC chip?

Infa
12-04-2007, 08:20 AM
Dont know how warm it is, couse there are no sensor for the crosslinx, that im guessing that you mean, but putting my hand on the BLue cover, it feels pretty warm.. NB keeps around 40ish MB, that may be the PWM, keeps lower than 40.. SB around 40 too.. and this with a fan blowing over the Sinks.

it gets pretty warm, even if it works the fuzion are the way :)

OBR
12-04-2007, 08:35 AM
i need to know how hot is only PCIe chip, not with SB under blue heatsink ... but only way to test it is disassembling of cooling system and touch the IDT chip ... :mad:

kowa1981
12-04-2007, 12:41 PM
kowa, honestly I believe this is an issue with the Asus X38 boards. I had a P5E3 Deluxe with the same 1800 C7 Corsair ram. It would boot at 1333 but no higher, no matter what timings or voltages I used. I knew the ram was good because I had used it on a P5K3, so I traded the P5E3 board for a Maximus Extreme. The Corsair runs fine for me on this one, but I have seen at least 3-4 other reports around the web (besides mine and yours) of folks having boot issues with Corsair 1800 C7 + Asus X38.

big thanks. now i have my q6600.now i can run it @ 9x425 and the ram 1700mhz 7-7-7-20 1t prime stable. i test next weekend more. i report the results.
but with 1800 the board starts and windows too but not stable.
the bios version 803 is very very good.

Infa
12-06-2007, 10:09 AM
I cant Downgrade the bios, Ezflash says its older than existing (ofcourse) but it should work anyway? been working all the time until this MB :)

lowbid
12-06-2007, 01:31 PM
I cant Downgrade the bios, Ezflash says its older than existing (ofcourse) but it should work anyway? been working all the time until this MB :)

You must have went to 0803 and want to go back to 0702.Just reflash with 0803 and interrupt the writing of the flash with the reset button.This board has crash free bios so put your disk in the dvd and a usb flash drive I a usb port with the bios you want it to write.Just rename it extreme.rom and you can go back.I have done it several times.

I have had this board for 3 weeks with a QX9650 and corsair 1800 C7DF on phase stable at 440x10 with the vcore on auto for some resone I cant raise it but I know it just a bios setting.

regards lowbid

camouflage
12-07-2007, 03:30 AM
:confused: How much volts You guys give to the NB? I set it to"AUTO"and at 9x467 (RAM 934MHz at 7-6-5-15 / 2.144 volts) the board set 1.52. This was even not 1M stable......:mad: - so I tried 1.55 now and 1M & 2M is stable, but 4M did not complete. Seems the board needs hi voltage on the NB - maybe I should try 1.6?:shrug:

At 9x445 with the same RAM settings (RAM 2.000 volts) the board is 32M stable with only 1.44 volts on the NB. Makes me wonder......:confused:

Any ideas?

:welcome:

Infa
12-07-2007, 09:17 AM
yeah these X38 seems weird actually.. in some things..

seems rather tricky to find out what will work..

peterpiper
12-07-2007, 03:40 PM
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3156&p=4 I know this link is for a P5E3, but the I linked into it googling the Maximus Extreme. Bios looks the same. Good Detail and suggested settings for a leg up!

Aivas47a
12-08-2007, 12:41 AM
:confused: How much volts You guys give to the NB? I set it to"AUTO"and at 9x467 (RAM 934MHz at 7-6-5-15 / 2.144 volts) the board set 1.52. This was even not 1M stable......:mad: - so I tried 1.55 now and 1M & 2M is stable, but 4M did not complete. Seems the board needs hi voltage on the NB - maybe I should try 1.6?:shrug:

At 9x445 with the same RAM settings (RAM 2.000 volts) the board is 32M stable with only 1.44 volts on the NB. Makes me wonder......:confused:

Any ideas?

:welcome:

Camo, my board definitely needs to have the NB voltage cranked up when the fsb gets up to 450+. At 10x400 fsb (yorkfield processor) I'm good with NB at 1.4; at 450, NB needs to be 1.61.

Mitolo
12-09-2007, 08:51 AM
Yes all this info will help I hope as I should have mine in the next 4 days:shocked:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
ASUS MAXIMUS EXTREME
G.SKILL 4GB DDR3
Radeon HD 3870 ... X2
Creative X-Fi
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad (Crossfire Edition)

Mitolo
12-09-2007, 08:58 AM
hi,
i have a probleme with this board and corair dominator 1800 cl7
i have test every thing but i canīt run the ram on 1800.
450x6 ram1200 works perfekt
450x6 ram1800 donīt work
the problem is that memtest says 0 errors but 3dmark and prime hangs on at 5-10sec.
i have test bios versions 701,702,802,803 and nothing works.
i have test default settings and i have the same problems.
is the board bad or the ram? or are you thinking that the cpu are bad?

sorry for my english.

greetings kowa

Have you tryed the hotfix for 3dmark ???http://www.futuremark.com/download/hotfix_oct07/

kowa1981
12-09-2007, 12:22 PM
thanks mitolo but i have this hotfix installed before.
the problem is that prime95 have the problem too.

i wait for a new bios. i hope that the new bios run faster...

camouflage
12-10-2007, 02:30 AM
Camo, my board definitely needs to have the NB voltage cranked up when the fsb gets up to 450+. At 10x400 fsb (yorkfield processor) I'm good with NB at 1.4; at 450, NB needs to be 1.61.

:D Yep - have exactly the same, 1.61 to the NB for 9x467 SP32M stable.

DDR2 X38 on P5E only needed 1.43 to run this stable..............:confused:

:up:

Aivas47a
12-10-2007, 08:13 AM
9x467 stable is a great result for these chips so far. :up:

peterpiper
12-10-2007, 09:05 AM
GF is making me stick mine under the christmas tree!! I'll have to wait another 2 weeks..sniffle, sniffle..

Nosfer@tu
12-10-2007, 01:48 PM
Im having a HELL of a time with this board and the OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Platinum Dual Channel.

Running it with SS on CPU, Water on Nbrige and a E6850.
ALL the time when I change somthing in bios, it has boot problems.
I will have to start from scrats once more, if I cant make it run I will take some bios pictures just to make sure im not messing somthing up.

eternal_fantasy
12-10-2007, 08:51 PM
i need to know how hot is only PCIe chip, not with SB under blue heatsink ... but only way to test it is disassembling of cooling system and touch the IDT chip ... :mad:

The IDT chip is not very warm to be honest, at least when it is not working to split the second PCIe 16x lane. I placed 4 Swiftech Memory coolers on it just to make sure: (that SB heatsink was taken from an old Asus P5B :D)
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/1.jpg

Using an infrared thermometer, it is at around 33 degrees, which is just 2 degrees higher then the motherboard PCB next to it.

While I was at it I discovered that the FETs for the Northbridge was really hot, so another memory ram sink was placed on the 4 FETs, which fits perfectly:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/2.jpg

These sinks, when under load goes up to as high as 48 degrees, also measured using the infrared thermometer.

Another was placed on the Memory FETs, although they were not that hot anyway powering DDR3, with temp reading at 37 degrees under load.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/3.jpg

These little heat sinks can be found on DFI boards that are factory fitted, but not from other manufactures.

mnemonick
12-11-2007, 10:26 PM
I have tried 1gb OCZ plat 1333 and 1gb Corsair 1333, if i put in 2 sticks everything works fine, if i put in 4 sticks the board locks on vista boot, if i do a vista memory test everything is fine, but as soon as it tries to boot vista it locks up. I am thinking of going to 2x2gb and try that... FYI this is all at auto everything, no OC.

Grendel66
12-11-2007, 11:04 PM
These little heat sinks can be found on DFI boards that are factory fitted, but not from other manufactures.
Those are Swiftech MC14 sinks (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108071). Pricey.

peterpiper
12-12-2007, 02:06 AM
Eternal, Do you have a pic of the board from a bit further away. I'd like to see all the components. What cooling do you have on NB and on Mosfets now?

camouflage
12-12-2007, 02:13 AM
:D :D :D

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7681/42ghz32mte7.jpg

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4218/systempics005fl7.jpg

:up:

GLENBOY
12-12-2007, 08:09 AM
which ram slots everyone using i am on the white ones from installing and seems ok any ram slots preffered, don;t know where but i read somewhere the white slots are supposed to better but not sure

eternal_fantasy
12-12-2007, 08:38 AM
"These little heat sinks can be found on DFI boards that are factory fitted, but not from other manufactures."
Those are Swiftech MC14 sinks (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108071). Pricey.
Sorry, let me rephrase:
"Small heatsinks placed on the same hotspots can only be found factory fitted on the DFI motherboards."



Eternal, Do you have a pic of the board from a bit further away. I'd like to see all the components. What cooling do you have on NB and on Mosfets now?

The earlier version before I redone the tubing:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/DSC00478.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/DSC00466.jpg

The slightly updated setup:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/494.jpg
Those are Mips NB and MOSFET blocks.

metro.cl
12-12-2007, 09:12 AM
Im having a HELL of a time with this board and the OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Platinum Dual Channel.

Running it with SS on CPU, Water on Nbrige and a E6850.
ALL the time when I change somthing in bios, it has boot problems.
I will have to start from scrats once more, if I cant make it run I will take some bios pictures just to make sure im not messing somthing up.


2x around here couldnt even install windows last night loading setup defaults on BIOS, had to set stock clocks for the cpu manually.

Now im having all kind of issues with it, bios 803.

CPU at 400x9 = windows boot but SP2M stable only if dram is under 1333MHz tryed 2 kits of DDR3 same issue.

8x400 also completely unstable if ram at 1600mhz

Can anyone put bios screenshots of a working set up please.

Also AiSuite doesnt even load give a error :(

camouflage
12-12-2007, 02:09 PM
2x around here couldnt even install windows last night loading setup defaults on BIOS, had to set stock clocks for the cpu manually.

Now im having all kind of issues with it, bios 803.

CPU at 400x9 = windows boot but SP2M stable only if dram is under 1333MHz tryed 2 kits of DDR3 same issue.

8x400 also completely unstable if ram at 1600mhz

Can anyone put bios screenshots of a working set up please.

Also AiSuite doesnt even load give a error :(

:D You just found my thread - forget AI Suite yet..........

Here are some BIOS shots for stable 4GHz, with E6850 & Cellshock 1800:

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9974/bios001yg0.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4917/bios002ui5.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2860/bios003th8.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7271/bios004mr5.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3383/bios005pl2.jpg

There are two important things in BIOS - do not set PLL voltage to AUTO, the BIOS will give 1.85 volts which is pretty much........, and the NB voltage - set it only to AUTO up to 450 FSB, BIOS will give 1.44 volt. But above 450 FSB the board needs 1.61 and BIOS will set only 1.55 which is pretty less...

All mentioned voltages are real shown in hardware monitor in BIOS, setting in BIOS may vary.

Hope this will help You metro, and a lot of other ppl...........;)

:up:

metro.cl
12-12-2007, 02:36 PM
Thanks camouflage, i got it working after all but i will take notice of your settings to optimize voltages.

Here are my runs :)

1960MHz 7-7-7-21-1T boot from BIOS 2.1v

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Metr0/Patriot%201866MHz/Patriot19807-7-7-21SP32Mb.jpg


2000MHz 7-7-7-21-1T boot from BIOS 2.16v (might be able to use less)

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Metr0/Patriot%201866MHz/Patriot20007-7-7-21SP32M216v.jpg

Board seems to respond a lot better than P5K3 Deluxe at over 2.1v on DDR3, will keep testing.

P.D. not sure why CPU-Z and Memset report 2T when i set 1T in bios

systemviper
12-12-2007, 02:44 PM
Common Maximus Extreme, Startin my build in 2 weeks, all these pics and talk is getting me twitchy

I have the heatpipes off and am about to take off the fusion block to reseat but thaT IS AN INTERESTING watercooling setup, man everything is watercooled, tht must cost a fortune>?

camouflage
12-12-2007, 03:27 PM
Thanks camouflage, i got it working after all but i will take notice of your settings to optimize voltages.

Here are my runs :)

1960MHz 7-7-7-21-1T boot from BIOS 2.1v




2000MHz 7-7-7-21-1T boot from BIOS 2.16v (might be able to use less)


Board seems to respond a lot better than P5K3 Deluxe at over 2.1v on DDR3, will keep testing.

P.D. not sure why CPU-Z and Memset report 2T when i set 1T in bios

:D Both are buggy - use CPU-Z 1.41, it shows 1T if set so.;)

:up:

rbuass
12-13-2007, 03:56 AM
New bios plays well with yorkfield. 4.4 Ghz on water and I haven't even started pushing it yet:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k255/aivas47a/440x10QX9650.jpg

FSB Term overvolting issue I had before seemed to be a function of early bios; with latest bios FSB Term drops around .04v for me from bios to actual, according to PC Probe.

Can you help me to overclock my system
QX9650 + Maximus Extreme + 4 X 1GB Dominator DDR3 1800 + toughpower 1200 + wc system swiftech + D tek fuzion ...the system don t reach more than 4000 Mhz i don t know why...
P5E3 i reach 4500 Mhz to bench...and prime more than 4 Ghz
Thanks

Infa
12-13-2007, 07:14 AM
The Extreme are More NB voltage hungry even at a Dualcore..

And a Quad plus 4x1GB i think you will need some NB voltage, maybe you have tried that? Got to check atleast :) one tip if not..

Tried all slots? usally memory plays better if changed to secondary slots, the black ones.

EDIT, tired after work, didnt read good enough, you do have 4x1 hehe..

regards.

OBR
12-13-2007, 09:30 AM
Maximus Extreme ...
http://i11.tinypic.com/72fqrte.png

My Penryn at 4GHz, and DDR3 ... 1600MHz with good timing ...

Striker Extreme ...
http://i4.tinypic.com/6x6tnnl.png

my second system with nForce + DDR2 ...

I like DDR3 ...

Infa
12-13-2007, 10:51 AM
Got some testing time, got this after a while of trixing and fixing..

Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/oc/4.2 32.JPG
Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/oc/4.2.JPG
Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/oc/everest.jpg

its a nice board i think :)

GLENBOY
12-13-2007, 11:34 AM
hiya infa what volts are you giving the ram, are you on watercolling whats the temps like with that vcore on the e6850

Infa
12-13-2007, 11:40 AM
at that time i had 2.06 vDimm, vMCH 1.67, and 1.73** at cpu resulting in 1.72, and loadline is working great.

Temps now in vista with orthos, same vcore, couse i forgot to change it, and were doin orthos now at 4ghz, the temp got to 70c.

I got so much dust between the fans and radiator hehe, its Full of it, thinks its doin 5c atleast, the fans are barely pushing trough hehe..
but its a PITA to release all the screws, and then release moore screws to get the fan of the radiator, and i DONT WANT to tear the system apart so all the hozes are still there when im doin it, and its a pita :) but i think i really need to do it now tough..

regards.

camouflage
12-13-2007, 01:05 PM
:D Yep - great board:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3639/423ghz32mzs2.jpg

:up:

Infa
12-13-2007, 03:24 PM
Hehe, thanks for the timings of memset, they did work perfekt on my Cellshocks.. i almost had a 32m at 4250, but it BSOD me at nr 22 :angry:
werer at 10.33 on nr 22 looked good, well well ..to late to try again ..new day tomorrow :)

regards.

mnemonick
12-13-2007, 06:45 PM
What is the BEST stability checking program for mem and CPU? I have been using everest, but does it truly test the memory and cpu? After runing a 1 hour stability test, the next day i had a total lock while installing Direct X.

Infa
12-13-2007, 09:21 PM
Orthos, Prime, loop3dmark, Games ar a good measurement sometimes..

lukas69
12-13-2007, 10:19 PM
what is best bios for Maximus Extreme?
now i have 0803 and i think work fine
i have look voltage on bios and vNB, Vsb and vram is overvoltage
ram 1,84 on bios is 1,90 -1,91 real
vpll if i put 1,50 is 1,59 real

Infa
12-14-2007, 07:53 AM
Yepp, Extreme tends to overvolt all settings, just have that in mind then its no worry... and 803 beta i think everyone can agree on are the best bios so far, wonder when the final will come, and what it will bring :)

regards.

Aivas47a
12-14-2007, 08:19 AM
Great results guys, thanks for the info. :up:

Infa/camo I especially like the high bus speeds you're getting. At 9x450 it feels like I'm almost there with vcore 1.55, PLL 1.5, FSB Term 1.54 (big drop on that one according to PC Probe anyway), and NB 1.61 but Orthos errors at 6 minutes remaining. Interesting that my Yorkie seems to require so much more vcore to run at higher FSB (400 fsb is stable at stock vcore, 450 fsb requires 1.55 for same clock speed).

Also for me it is important for ram stability at higher clocks to keep dram static read and dynamic write on auto.

camouflage
12-17-2007, 04:24 AM
:D MAXIMUS EXTREME rules:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3973/4275ghz32mhy6.jpg

:up:

Infa
12-17-2007, 07:01 AM
Hmm 10c? :)

What Cooling are you using?

camouflage
12-17-2007, 07:14 AM
Hmm 10c? :)

What Cooling are you using?

:D "Ghetto" - cooling, chip is on water & open window in mid-Europe winter...:p:

:up:

GLENBOY
12-17-2007, 07:49 AM
make sure you wear a warm jumper for benching sessions camo :)

camouflage
12-17-2007, 08:03 AM
make sure you wear a warm jumper for benching sessions camo :)

:D Haha, have always some Vodka close to me for warming up......;)

camouflage
12-18-2007, 02:19 AM
:D Update:

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5858/43ghz32mka8.jpg

:welcome:

Smooth
12-18-2007, 06:42 AM
New Bios-file available now :
0904 (ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Extreme/ME0904.zip)
there´s no change-log yet.

So I´ll give it a try.

btw :
Can it be that the CPU-temp seems to appear higher than real ???
What I mean is :
I just changed the board ( this weekend ) - had a ASUS P5N32-E SLI ( nForce 680i ) before... now I realise that the CPU appears much higher than the core-temps ... I am used to it that it was in fact vice versa.

GLENBOY
12-18-2007, 06:51 AM
thanks smooth

i'll give it a whirl

Smooth
12-18-2007, 07:55 AM
ok, now after the flash is done *g*
my problem with the difference between CPU- and core -temp is gone :)
the temps are like they should be.

just forgot to report :
oc like before ... just with little lower cpu-temps.

GLENBOY
12-18-2007, 09:03 AM
installed bios 904 all seems ok i will post back if i find any difference to 803 but seems ok

Infa
12-18-2007, 10:14 AM
Hmm please more people report! :) been waiting to see if it did bring any good? Fsb, changed in unstable OC etc..

regards!

kowa1981
12-18-2007, 11:42 AM
have anyone test the new 1002 bios?

Infa
12-18-2007, 11:43 AM
are there a 1002 too now?

GLENBOY
12-18-2007, 11:55 AM
i've just checked it out and the 1002 is for blitz extreme not maximus so don't use it, its obviously been uploaded to wrong folder on asus ftp

Infa
12-18-2007, 11:59 AM
Yeah, BE are Blitz , ME Maximus..
soo anymore tried 904?

Im not home, cannot try it ! :)

kowa1981
12-18-2007, 12:30 PM
ah ok sorry i have seen be1002 in the maximus folder and i was thinking that be stands for beta... ok sorry

GLENBOY
12-18-2007, 12:32 PM
no worries kowa

peterpiper
12-18-2007, 01:57 PM
Eternal, what clocks you gettin with all that coolin? What about temps?

camouflage
12-18-2007, 02:08 PM
:D Usually I always try new BIOS - but 0803 is running extremely nice so I will keep it untill someone post some improvement here with 0904...:p:

:welcome:

sargatanas
12-18-2007, 10:15 PM
well seems that the temps are lower now...but a bit too low.
gonna test the fsb with a qx9650/e6850 later that day.

Z3R0-CooL
12-19-2007, 05:26 AM
can anyone post results maximus extreme with Quad Cores???

Smooth
12-19-2007, 05:57 AM
@z3ro-cool :0803 (http://rapidshare.com/files/77645191/ME0803.zip.html)

Infa
12-19-2007, 08:55 AM
how do you get his post as he would want the Bios? :)

Smooth
12-19-2007, 08:58 AM
When I logged on a few hours ago... there was another post concerning the question if sombody could load him 0803 cause ASUS took it off the server.

But now this post is gone ... or maybe I´ll get insane ...

Z3R0-CooL
12-19-2007, 09:00 AM
yeah i deleted the post.. @smooth thanks
..

i found the BIOS on the asus FTP on another server so i downloaded it from there and deleted my post before i saw smooth's post. Thanks for the help though smooth :) danke

Just looking for Maximus extreme users with quad cores.

Smooth
12-19-2007, 09:03 AM
@ Z3R0 :
NP & thx ... that I am not insane ;)

camouflage
12-19-2007, 10:33 AM
:rolleyes: Recently had a phone call to ASUS - X38 & 333FSB CPU's have problems with 0803 BIOS - AI suite can not be installed or crashes after install and Prime95 does not run - even at stock settings it crashes when it jumps from loop 1 to loop 2...... - so someone tested to install AI suite with the new 0904 BIOS (but plz with a 333FSB CPU !!!) or ran prime95 with this constallation?

Reports welcome !

:welcome:

kowa1981
12-19-2007, 01:07 PM
the bios 904 runs like the 803 with my quadcore q6600 an dominator 1800.
the temps are better. from max.74 to max.67 .
on the striker extreme i have the same temps. perfect.

but i canīt run my dominator 1800 with 1800. the maximum prime stabil is 430x9.
when i test 450x6 and slow timinigs it hangs on at prime and 3dmark but memtest say no errors after 5passes.

hmm...

Infa
12-19-2007, 01:25 PM
904 are baad for me!

Before i could boot and load Vista at 8x500 DDR2000 atleast, and run some 1m s-pi, but now, it wont even go on 467.. this one is really bad, and on the asus site i only see 702 bios, wich means this is a beta bios aswell as 803..

so maybe the 904 never will see the daylight of officialness......
perhaps Asus puts up their bios on the ftp, and uses us like guinnie pigs :)

i allready lost alot of fsb against my Commando with the 803, and now its even worse, and i cant see any other or feel any other improvement...

I need more FSB! asus get that ASAP :D

regards!

camouflage
12-19-2007, 01:50 PM
:rolleyes: Hm - reasons to keep 0803...........:cool:

Infa
12-19-2007, 02:13 PM
Ezflash has gone to the fishes too..
without doin anything, it just freezes when its detecting hardware.

the usb stick shows up in dos, windows , formatted allready etc etc..
but NOT in the *pip*damn ezflash, had to use afudos with a Bootcd.

will try some more tough, i were never stable 4ghz with this board, now it is?
sacrifice some fsb for the stable 4ghz?

hmm hm :)

Smooth
12-19-2007, 02:40 PM
I found out that the "FSB-Strap to NB" is very important for succsess in this Bios-version.
When I kept it on "auto" it was nearly impossible to get the sys prime-stable ... no matter which voltages are increased or decreased.
I thought I have to go mad !

As last act of boredom I changed this strap-value to 333 and now it´s stable...
so there is also a matter of more or less stable (ram)dividers.

Aivas47a
12-19-2007, 02:44 PM
Infa, EZ Flash was freezing on me last night too while trying to flash the new bios. But after I changed USB slots it worked fine again. :shrug:

Infa
12-19-2007, 02:48 PM
this Ezflash are a strange thing, i have flashed several times on this board..
even tried after latest 803, it worked but said older blablal...

and now, without touching the function, i was going to put in the 904, and it doesnt work? hahha ..:banana::banana::banana::banana:stuff, DOS ARE the best imo ...

well well, now im in win, typing at 4.2 , 9x467 that i thought never went before, TRIED ALL, but had tRAS at 18, and i changed it for fun to 20, and now suddenly its stable hahha .. these x38 boards are straaaange..

EDIT: think i will withdraw that this bios is bad :) just that i changed tRAS in bios from 18-20 made everything atleast as i was before..
better i think? will try prime again at 4ghz, it allways failed before at prime on X38 overall.. if it is, then its the thumn up on this.

GLENBOY
12-19-2007, 03:25 PM
nice one infa what volts are you giving it for 4.2

Infa
12-19-2007, 03:41 PM
for benching only, 4.2 cant take no prime :)

about 1.68-70~ , Hitting 70c in load at that vcore (lowered Mhz but kept vcore)

now im 1.60~ 4.1, and goin priming, and see what happends :)

the 500FSB are still a no go though, seems like this bios made higher Mhz stable, but took some FSB, well its a way in the right direction anyway :)

GLENBOY
12-19-2007, 03:48 PM
not really had much time to play but seems stable enough , with me i could do 500+fsb easy but with ram at 2000mhz was not 3d stable tried loads of different looser timings higher volts etc but would generally hard lock in 3d benchmarks but lowered ram speed and was a ok , not tried with new 904 bios yet but i'll post if any improvement

Infa
12-19-2007, 03:50 PM
nooo 4.1 is a no go :) tried max 1.63, and id died, could work with higher, but to high 24/7 , seems like 4GHz atleast are working again as before, "Seems" in not sure yet though..well see.. priming now, 1.53v.

gotta sleep now! its late and im been fighting with Ezflash some hours today too, got me really pissed ehhe..took my powers :P

Nighty!

Infa
12-19-2007, 04:01 PM
my cpu seems not to play well with this board... yours could do high fsb before you switched to this board?

Smooth
12-19-2007, 04:29 PM
Cause of all the benching and priming for having a stable-sys I didn´t notice another prob that just occured now.
Sys is stable under prime / good results in super-Pi ... all fine ... but I just started to play a round "world in conflict" (tried other games also ) ... after a few minutes I got a bsd :
"nvlddmkm.sys" which is concerning the drivers for my 8800gtx.
The weird thing is when i clock my Q6600 down to 3GHz all is fine.
So what´s the matter ?
Should depend on the NB voltage, shouldn´t it ?
but I allready tried to raise to 1,69V ... still the same bsd.

Any ideas are welcome.

Aivas47a
12-19-2007, 06:49 PM
Got the PCIe frequency set manually at 100?

Smooth
12-19-2007, 07:06 PM
Got the PCIe frequency set manually at 100?
Yes it´s fixed ... never touched those frequency though ;)

I just found out that 4GB-Kits ( 2 x 2GB RAM) are very nb-voltage-needie... but I reached 1,7V now... and the nb should stay lower than 47°C...
and when I think a bit further than prime should also stall and this is the really weird thing about it `cause prime is stable for hours.
My settings are now :
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
OC From Memory Level Up [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [9]
FSB Frequency [400MHz]
FSB Strap To North Bridge [333]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Frequency [DDR3-1600Mhz]

DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
Primary Info; 7-6-6-24-6-48

Rest is [Auto]

DRAM Static read control [Enabled]
DRAM Dynamic Write Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [strong]

CPU Voltage [1,36]
CPU PLL [1,63]
North Bridge Voltage :[1.71]
DRAM Voltage [1.8]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.4v]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Rference [0.67x]



so where is the need to change or where is the prob???
I am totally stumped :shakes:

Aivas47a
12-19-2007, 08:33 PM
That NB voltage seems really high for 400 fsb. I can get by with default 1.41 at that speed. CPU PLL shouldn't need to be that high either. Try backing those down while holding prime stability. As for the nvidia driver crash, I don't know that I would be looking at chipset voltages as the culprit. Maybe check the nvidia forum and see what they have to say about that error, IIRC that one is fairly common.

Smooth
12-19-2007, 08:55 PM
The thing is :
if I clock down to 3GHz ( 333 MHz ) there is no bsd !
So somehow and somewhere the graphic-card-signal is going to be "corrupted" and my thinking was : the interface to graphic-card is the nb.
In fact I "assume" that with increasing nb-voltage the time to crash in-game is getting longer ... or it´s just randomly. ;)

OBR
12-19-2007, 10:13 PM
this mobo is hottest then nForce .... but oc is great, but i cannot to reach 1800MHz for DDR3 ...

metro.cl
12-19-2007, 10:41 PM
this mobo is hottest then nForce .... but oc is great, but i cannot to reach 1800MHz for DDR3 ...

I can proove that wrong easily.

v_parrello
12-19-2007, 11:14 PM
Anyboby else report freeeze problems with 0803 and later about some applications like prime, Asus AI Probe, Asus Ai Suite?
I have an E6420 and DDR3 STT 1600 7-7-7.

Please, somebody could post his bios configuration to show the right settings?

Is it possible to downgrade bios to a previous version? There is a metod different from recovery bios with EZ crash recovery utility described before in this thread?

Many thanks to everybody would give a support.

camouflage
12-20-2007, 02:39 AM
Anyboby else report freeeze problems with 0803 and later about some applications like prime, Asus AI Probe, Asus Ai Suite?
I have an E6420 and DDR3 STT 1600 7-7-7.

Please, somebody could post his bios configuration to show the right settings?

Is it possible to downgrade bios to a previous version? There is a metod different from recovery bios with EZ crash recovery utility described before in this thread?

Many thanks to everybody would give a support.

L@@K above - post #102..........;)

v_parrello
12-20-2007, 03:13 AM
L@@K above - post #102..........;)

I have already red your post and with 0904 bios there are the some troubles. ;)

I would to hear something about these troubles by the people said that everything is running well with bios 0803, maybe they use some bios settings that I do not know, and they can support me to set well the bios. :)

camouflage
12-20-2007, 05:57 AM
I have already red your post and with 0904 bios there are the some troubles. ;)

I would to hear something about these troubles by the people said that everything is running well with bios 0803, maybe they use some bios settings that I do not know, and they can support me to set well the bios. :)

:rolleyes: Hm, I think best is to keep 0803 and to avoid prime & AI suite yet.

Maybe ASUS will fix it with a later BIOS update. (I hope so!).

:shrug:

Smooth
12-20-2007, 07:57 AM
I solved my prob now :
And the guilt goes to .... my OCZs !
With the new Bios it´s not possible to get them into their settings :(
When i turn them down to 1333MHz all works fine and I need a lot less voltage ( everywhere ! ).

sdumper
12-20-2007, 12:33 PM
Ok I just purchased this board and am getting it ready for SS and later cascade. What is the max FSB for quads on this board is it the same as the Maximus Formula SE?

http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/overclock_maximus_extreme_ddr3-10030/index.html?t=10030

PalmeAsus
12-20-2007, 03:02 PM
my cpu temp went down 20 c with 0904 bios . And memory overclocking improved much =) .

day187
12-20-2007, 07:34 PM
my temps went down 20 c with 0904 bios . And memory overclocking improved much =) .


0904 bios not bad
My temps have not improved but so far so good

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8315/test1ds7.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test1ds7.jpg)

mnemonick
12-20-2007, 09:09 PM
I would really love to know your bios voltages and settings recommended for this setup. I am new to OCing but have a decent WC setup and would like to try it out. Id like to get 10x400 stable. I cannot figure out what im doing wrong, and no one posts thier voltage settings. I have the ME w/ QX9650, Corsair 1600 2gb x2 (the ones with the big heatsinks), a thermochill PA120.2, Swifteck GTX with copper top, Swiftec MCP655 pump, and the D-tek fuzion GPU cooler. I cannot get bios to post @ 400... but i can get a perfect 12 hour Prime95 run @ 11x375 4.1ghz, 1500 Ram. But if i increase FSB it wont boot...

Aivas47a
12-20-2007, 09:48 PM
For 10 x 400, try this:

CPU PLL: 1.5
NB: 1.49
FSB Term: 1.4

works for me :up:

eternal_fantasy
12-21-2007, 02:49 AM
Hello again people, had missed this thread posting on another forum on my overclocking progress of the Maximus Extreme and QX9650.

Here is the thread with more pictures of my current rig setup: http://forum.vadim.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1556

Here are some results I'm currently achieveing on water:
24/7 cool-running speed:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/Temp-1.jpg
CPU load around 55 degrees, Northbridge load 35 degrees.

Highest 2xOrthos 6 hour stable speed:
Around 4.45Ghz, Couldn't find a SS of it...:p:

Highest benchmarkable speed:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/4-4.jpg

Highest windows bootable speed:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/4-5.jpg

and SuperPi 1M at this speed:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/Picrop.jpg

Lapped QX9650, seated with AS5, BIOS version 0904 (awsome version!! :D), Vista 64-bit. :up:

camouflage
12-21-2007, 03:05 AM
:D MAXIMUS EXTREME loves Penryn:

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9561/4ghz32muz2.jpg

:up:

sargatanas
12-21-2007, 06:33 AM
has anyone hint for me how I could watercool the ME incl. the use of cf?
got the mips cooler next to me, but it seems that I wont be able to cool the idt...
http://www.gwebspace.de/sargatanas/PC/mainboard2.jpg
seems impossible to use the swiftech heatsinks like eternal_fantasy did it, the second card is just to close to it.

Infa
12-21-2007, 07:21 AM
:D MAXIMUS EXTREME loves Penryn:



Just as i tought... looks like a bunch of people having trouble with Conroes on this board (me included) .. i also have this freeze problems/BSOD, ofcourse it is on high OC, but i really think this board really could handle ATLEAST what a 965 board could, but nooo... seems like it need ALOT more vcore for same speed.. like 0.1v more. And if i change a mem setting, the MB shuts down and on for the setting to take effect, then the system are stable in prime a while, but then it crashes, and are impossible to go prime again... but change some setting and boot again, then it works..

I also noted that at 1.70 4ghz it didnt crash, but at 1.5~ where it was stable in Commando, it wont go......hmmmm whyyy this problem?
The mem OC went worse with 904 too.

perhaps as i said, that X38 are more optimized for penryn family processors.
Looks like it atleast, Camoflauge and others Yorkies just love X38..

ahh well, cant test that before January 20th atleast, but i look forward to it :)

camouflage
12-21-2007, 07:55 AM
Just as i tought... looks like a bunch of people having trouble with Conroes on this board (me included) .. i also have this freeze problems/BSOD, ofcourse it is on high OC, but i really think this board really could handle ATLEAST what a 965 board could, but nooo... seems like it need ALOT more vcore for same speed.. like 0.1v more. And if i change a mem setting, the MB shuts down and on for the setting to take effect, then the system are stable in prime a while, but then it crashes, and are impossible to go prime again... but change some setting and boot again, then it works..

I also noted that at 1.70 4ghz it didnt crash, but at 1.5~ where it was stable in Commando, it wont go......hmmmm whyyy this problem?
The mem OC went worse with 904 too.

perhaps as i said, that X38 are more optimized for penryn family processors.
Looks like it atleast, Camoflauge and others Yorkies just love X38..

ahh well, cant test that before January 20th atleast, but i look forward to it :)

:confused: Won't say so - my Conroe did a perfect job on this board:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=168298

:up:


Hello again people, had missed this thread posting on another forum on my overclocking progress of the Maximus Extreme and QX9650.

... BIOS version 0904 (awsome version!! :D) :up:

:D Thx for posting this - makes me feel I should give 0904 a try now....;)

Aivas47a
12-21-2007, 08:09 AM
I have been fine tuning my 24/7 settings and landed on 10x420. Anything higher than 4.2 ghz requires big voltage jumps. Also at 1680 mhz on the ram I can run 7-6-5-16 timings, whereas at 1800 mhz I have to loosen to 8-8-8-20 in order to pass OCCT. (Not sure what the deal is with that.) Anyway, overall I'm pleased with the memory performance especially the low latency:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k255/aivas47a/QX965010x420.jpg

Nosfer@tu
12-21-2007, 08:20 AM
I had ALOT OF issues with the board, NOTHING worked, But after selecting strapp manualy everyhing is fine, 400x9 1:2 at strapp 200. Not an amazing acheavement but cool enough :D

Infa
12-21-2007, 10:08 AM
[QUOTE=camouflage;2644111]:confused: Won't say so - my Conroe did a perfect job on this board:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=168298

Well mine doesnt work at all as good as it did on my Commando, sure it clocks about the same, but cant keep it stable, dunno why , and with 1.76 i could reach my maximum at 4400 in the summer, now it even freezes at 4300..

and 500FSB are a no go, wont even boot, before 16h stable...

soo somethings up with this....... well well its just face the facts i guess..
maybe ill try an older bios, like 702... AFUDOS wont complain on any old bios i hope like Ezflash.

regards.

Aivas47a
12-21-2007, 10:43 AM
FWIW the Maximus Extreme is the only board on which I've been able to boot a q6600 at 500 fsb:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k255/aivas47a/7x500Maximus.jpg

metro.cl
12-21-2007, 12:06 PM
so anyone else using 904 can provide feedback?

Infa
12-21-2007, 01:29 PM
Hmm, what is causing nvidia drivers to stop responding during OC?
i thought that pci-e were locked, or am i missing something?

PCI-E goes trough SB 1.5 , or the other SB? :) dumb question maybe but anyway..

im in 8x500 ddr2000 now, that it didnt even boot at before, SO strange hahah
but am getting nvddlkm something that is stopping to responding, but recoveres.

metro.cl
12-21-2007, 01:39 PM
How are the dividers working? i have many issues with them on 803, not all work.

Smooth
12-21-2007, 01:44 PM
@ infa :
that was exact my problem.
But I though PCIe goes through NB.
I had to clock down the memory. Now I a waiting for response from OCZ cause my mem should work @ 1600 ... but when I clock my RAMs to 1600 it´s only a matter of time till nvlddmkm.sys quits.... it recovers a few times but over the time I´ll get a bsd.

metro.cl
12-21-2007, 02:06 PM
@ infa :
that was exact my problem.
But I though PCIe goes through NB.
I had to clock down the memory. Now I a waiting for response from OCZ cause my mem should work @ 1600 ... but when I clock my RAMs to 1600 it´s only a matter of time till nvlddmkm.sys quits.... it recovers a few times but over the time I´ll get a bsd.

try fixing you pci-expree freq to 110 or 115

Smooth
12-21-2007, 02:12 PM
try fixing you pci-expree freq to 110 or 115

but tell me, why raising the frequence ??
I have left it on 100... so that "should" not be the fault.

peterpiper
12-21-2007, 03:40 PM
GF let me have my christmas pressie early. Started a bit of prep work this evening. I tell you thats some rotten sh1t they put under the heatpipe as TIM. I'm at least an hour scraping the stuff off, chippin the tinyest bit each go. And impossible to get a completey smooth surface. Anyway, best I could do, the real fun starts tomorrow. Though I'm beginning to wonder from all the posts in this thread if it's the right choice of board?

metro.cl
12-21-2007, 03:59 PM
but tell me, why raising the frequence ??
I have left it on 100... so that "should" not be the fault.

Yes 100 should be default, not sure why but this is the second Asus board that does better with a non default PCI-Express setting.

You should try if it doesnt help, just set 100 again. For me it helps :shrug:

De1337
12-21-2007, 04:31 PM
This might be slight offtopic, but...

How come this board (if that's the reason) has so many probes in ASUS Probe?
On my P5E i only have the Vcore,12,3,5 + CPU & MB temp... ?

Anything special you need to do, or is it just the boards that determine what you can see?

Smooth
12-21-2007, 05:25 PM
Yes 100 should be default, not sure why but this is the second Asus board that does better with a non default PCI-Express setting.

You should try if it doesnt help, just set 100 again. For me it helps :shrug:
Hmmm, did not work here.
I changed PCIe to 110 and switched my memory to 1600 ...
afterwards I took me some time to get it at least for 15minutes stable.
Raised NB to 1,49V , CPU PLL to 1,6V FSB term 1,4V
then it passed my 15min prime-test.
So I tried next with a game :
took only 2 minutes to let nvlddmkm.sys crash again. :shakes:

Maybe you could post me your settings.
What did I wrong ?

eternal_fantasy
12-21-2007, 07:54 PM
This might be slight offtopic, but...

How come this board (if that's the reason) has so many probes in ASUS Probe?
On my P5E i only have the Vcore,12,3,5 + CPU & MB temp... ?

Anything special you need to do, or is it just the boards that determine what you can see?

Both my Maximus Formula and Extreme have extra probes on the NB/SB etc, with the Extreme having 3 extra thermal probes you can place yourselfs. My P5K Premium don't have these sensors. I think it's just a X38 chipset function?


@ infa :
that was exact my problem.
But I though PCIe goes through NB.
I had to clock down the memory. Now I a waiting for response from OCZ cause my mem should work @ 1600 ... but when I clock my RAMs to 1600 itīs only a matter of time till nvlddmkm.sys quits.... it recovers a few times but over the time Iīll get a bsd.

I have also had the 2 x 2GB OCZ DDR3-1600 EB Kit that cost almost Ģ600!! :eek: , which refuse to boot at the advertised speed.. :( so I RMAed it and got the 1800 CellShock. Absolutely loving it!!:D


FWIW the Maximus Extreme is the only board on which I've been able to boot a q6600 at 500 fsb:[/IMG]

Note that the Maximus has a 2 phase Northbridge power controller, whereas the Formula, and in fact all my other motherboards, has only single phase. It might have contributed!! :D :up:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/edit.jpg

metro.cl
12-22-2007, 01:07 AM
Hmmm, did not work here.
I changed PCIe to 110 and switched my memory to 1600 ...
afterwards I took me some time to get it at least for 15minutes stable.
Raised NB to 1,49V , CPU PLL to 1,6V FSB term 1,4V
then it passed my 15min prime-test.
So I tried next with a game :
took only 2 minutes to let nvlddmkm.sys crash again. :shakes:

Maybe you could post me your settings.
What did I wrong ?

Maybe is just a Memory / Motherboard problem, i'm running higher Northbridge volts that is the main diference i see.

Ai Booster ON level 2 or 3

camouflage
12-22-2007, 04:11 AM
so anyone else using 904 can provide feedback?

:D Yep - I flashed it in Windows with ASUS Update @ 4GHz....:eek: - all went fine, running stable without issues, but dunno if they fixed the problems with some not running programs at the ASUS X38 & FSB333 CPU combo.....(AI SUITE, PRIME, etc.).

Here's my thread - the 4.2GHz shot is done with BIOS 0904:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=170318

:welcome:

Infa
12-22-2007, 05:02 AM
God dammit :)

im sick of my system BSOD at stable speeds.....
now i will put som hoze and adapters in and cool that freak'n NB and see if it helps.

its about 50c if i raise it to 1.65, and now its 41c IDLE at 1.45v
maybe its to high? but its not very high that it would do worse in OC?

whats your temp Camo on NB, and what vMCH are you using?

PalmeAsus
12-22-2007, 05:36 AM
FWIW the Maximus Extreme is the only board on which I've been able to boot a q6600 at 500 fsb:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k255/aivas47a/7x500Maximus.jpg


what cpu pll voltage are you using ?

Smooth
12-22-2007, 05:53 AM
@ eternal fantasy :
Thx, for your info. These rams were very expensive - I paid 640€ ! And now I am so sick of them, can´t make them run on their announced speed.
But I wanted 4GB and I thought, if I take a 4GB in 2 slots, I´ll pass some potential troubles that some boards have with memories on all slots.
But I think I´ll rma them also ... I am so fed up.
This is the second pair of OCZs ( not on this board )that have been expensive for performance I did not can achieve !
I think I am through on OCZ.

eternal_fantasy
12-22-2007, 06:15 AM
@ eternal fantasy :
Thx, for your info. These rams were very expensive - I paid 640€ ! And now I am so sick of them, canīt make them run on their announced speed.
But I wanted 4GB and I thought, if I take a 4GB in 2 slots, Iīll pass some potential troubles that some boards have with memories on all slots.
But I think Iīll rma them also ... I am so fed up.
This is the second pair of OCZs ( not on this board )that have been expensive for performance I did not can achieve !
I think I am through on OCZ.

I have had a pair of OCZ DDR3-1800 sent to me for testing while waiting for the 4GB kit. That pair ran awsomely, as all the DDR3-1800+ at the moment uses the same Micron chips, and is absolutely amazing silicon. I also thought using just 2 sticks of ram for 4GB, although at slower speed will make my system easier to clock, but it turns out for some reason much worse, and not even stable at advertised settings. :(

Smooth
12-22-2007, 06:25 AM
@ eternal :
short question :
Now you´re using 4 x 1 GB Cellshocks with 1800 or only 2 GB ?
If so - did you expirienced any trouble with 4 rows ?

Z3R0-CooL
12-22-2007, 06:42 AM
@ eternal :
short question :
Now youīre using 4 x 1 GB Cellshocks with 1800 or only 2 GB ?
If so - did you expirienced any trouble with 4 rows ?

Not the person you asked but i am using 4x1 GB cellshocks @ 1800 (8-7-6-18) @ 1.80 BIOS not problems whatsoever.

havent done any tuning as yet though

Smooth
12-22-2007, 06:55 AM
Thx Z3r0.
So I think I´ll change these OCZ to some 1800er Cellshocks.

Aivas47a
12-22-2007, 07:46 AM
what cpu pll voltage are you using ?

1.5 for everyday, 1.6 when pushing for max fsb.

eternalfantasy, thanks for pointing out that dual phase NB power control. Nice touch! :up:

HammerJacks
12-22-2007, 09:37 AM
I am in the middle of a build and really on the edge of buying the Max. Extreme to pair up with my QX9650. Does anyone know if the Max. Extreme has any issues with this memory:

Corsair TWIN3X4096-1600C7DHXIN (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145190)

Although I am looking for an answer to the memory question, but also, would you recommend the maximus extreme to others based on your own experiences with the board? (I will be using it with air cooling)

Thanks!

eternal_fantasy
12-22-2007, 03:07 PM
@ eternal :
short question :
Now youīre using 4 x 1 GB Cellshocks with 1800 or only 2 GB ?
If so - did you expirienced any trouble with 4 rows ?

I'm currently running 2 GB so I can push the system to it's limit, but unless you are also doing the same I see no problem using 2 pairs on all 4 memory slots.


1.5 for everyday, 1.6 when pushing for max fsb.

eternalfantasy, thanks for pointing out that dual phase NB power control. Nice touch! :up:

No prob! it is an awsome board with top notch R&D behind it.:clap:

sdumper
12-22-2007, 03:42 PM
Hmmm is it just me or is this really no better than the Maximus Formula SE.

I can run DDR3 1900+ with my Crucials but to be honest my superPi score 10m is better with my old Maximus SE using DDR2 at 1100mhz...

Im using the 0904 bios...

Heres a link to my thread so far...
http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/overclock_maximus_extreme_ddr3-10030/index3.html

Im hoping its something im missing...

Infa
12-22-2007, 03:45 PM
Are there any way to get back to an old Bios, without Crashing it first?
why would they do such a thing.. to not be able to go back in bios, its just stupid, what if the new one wasnt good? Bioses are quite induvidial i think... dependent on hardware.

btw, watercooling my NB did lower my temps between 6-10c but it didnt do a shajjt on my Bsod, all are the same, 1-2hours to hell........bah.. damn cpu i think its slowly dieing on me.

Infa
12-22-2007, 03:59 PM
Hmmm is it just me or is this really no better than the Maximus Formula SE.

I can run DDR3 1900+ with my Crucials but to be honest my superPi score 10m is better with my old Maximus SE using DDR2 at 1100mhz...

Im using the 0904 bios...

Heres a link to my thread so far...
http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/overclock_maximus_extreme_ddr3-10030/index3.html

Im hoping its something im missing...

Cant see your timings picture, and in not going to register there just to see it :) , to keep a lower s-pi you got to keep the timings atleast at 7 in 1900+ speed, i won a minute in s-pi with cpu at 4.2ghz and mem 1872mhz cl 7-6-5-16 i think, and with ddr2 i kept cpu at 4.3ghz(100mhz more) and ddr2 at 960Mhz Cas 4, and i won a minute EVEN with cpu at 100mhz lower.
getting about 11700 read. Dunno exactly what your problem are, some more hints?

sdumper
12-22-2007, 04:09 PM
7-6-6-14

I wasnt asking you to register and you didnt have to ... lol

Infa
12-22-2007, 04:12 PM
7-6-6-15 ;)


its hard getting worse time with high.end ddr3 vs ddr2 ..

dont know what ur missing :)

tried all the boos settings? Clock twister - strong , booster enabled lvl 3.
they do alot for the bandwith and latency.

sdumper
12-22-2007, 06:04 PM
lol its even worse with trans booster:

http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/5/12/22/t_1800mhzm_203427b.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/22/f_1800mhzm_203427b.jpg&srv=img31)

Infa
12-22-2007, 06:23 PM
lol its even worse with trans booster:

http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/5/12/22/t_1800mhzm_203427b.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/22/f_1800mhzm_203427b.jpg&srv=img31)

heh i get those numbers on 4ghz atleast! :)

11600 on 3.9Ghz, mem 1755~

see that Trans booster are not on RELAX and on ENABLED , easy to miss..
if not STRANGE..... you should get higher than that, but its a diffrence in memsped and bandwith..

i get about 11700 read, 43 latency at 9x445, and at 8x500 ddr3 2000 i get about 13000k and 38 latency so its a big diffrence how you run ur ram..

and at 4900 you should go a divider higher and fix that multiplier to a lower.

HammerJacks
12-22-2007, 06:45 PM
Does anyone have ANY idea if this memory works with the Maximus Extreme? Its not listed on the ASUS Site, its not listed on the Corsair site (for the ME), so I would appreciate it if anyone can go out of their way to provide me some feedback. Thanks in advance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145190

mnemonick
12-22-2007, 06:58 PM
Does anyone have ANY idea if this memory works with the Maximus Extreme? Its not listed on the ASUS Site, its not listed on the Corsair site (for the ME), so I would appreciate it if anyone can go out of their way to provide me some feedback. Thanks in advance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145190

I have that EXACT ram in mine, works fine Im using QX9650 @4.2 with 2 of those sticks @ 1520.

sdumper
12-22-2007, 08:38 PM
heh i get those numbers on 4ghz atleast! :)

11600 on 3.9Ghz, mem 1755~

see that Trans booster are not on RELAX and on ENABLED , easy to miss..
if not STRANGE..... you should get higher than that, but its a diffrence in memsped and bandwith..

i get about 11700 read, 43 latency at 9x445, and at 8x500 ddr3 2000 i get about 13000k and 38 latency so its a big diffrence how you run ur ram..

and at 4900 you should go a divider higher and fix that multiplier to a lower.


Thats the point its slower or perhaps the board is slower than the Maximus SE and my old Crucial DDR2 sticks.

Heres a shot where i tweaked a bit and transbooster doesnt give me anything thats i can set myself in memset :p:


http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/5/12/22/t_1800mhzm_a207230.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/22/f_1800mhzm_a207230.jpg&srv=img29)

mnemonick
12-22-2007, 11:19 PM
THere is a Thermochill PA 120.2 in there, with 2 Panaflo U1s on the back and 2 LED thermaltake 120s on the front for looks. I am using the stock Maximus Extreme chipset cooler, i know its restrictive but im runing a QX9650 @ 4.2 Ghz and havnt seen 50c doing a 24 hour prime95 FFT run with panaflos @ 70%! EVGA 8800 GTX SSC, 2 WD Raptor 150 in Raid 1, 2 Hitach 1TB in Raid 1, An asus 20x SATA burner, and a BLU-RAY Drive! Shhhhaaaaawing! :)

http://www.dispensamatic.com/TTME3.jpg
http://www.dispensamatic.com/TTME4.jpg
http://www.dispensamatic.com/TTME5.jpg
http://www.dispensamatic.com/TTME6.jpg
http://www.dispensamatic.com/TTME8.jpg
Notice i removed the big 24CM fan, but it leaves plenty of air into the case.

PalmeAsus
12-23-2007, 04:34 AM
i must say my kandalf allows alot more space =).

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4650/p1000520pf1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4463/p1000526kw5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/908/p1000517km4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/552/p1000516vh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

HammerJacks
12-23-2007, 06:16 AM
mnemonick - Thanks for that info! BTW - Nice rig.

sdumper
12-23-2007, 06:42 AM
Heres a shot where i tweaked a bit and transbooster doesnt give me anything thats i cant set myself in memset :p:


http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/5/12/22/t_1800mhzm_a207230.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/22/f_1800mhzm_a207230.jpg&srv=img29)

Can someone post an everest score of 1800mhz and 7-6-6-15 for comparison purposes I am wondering if im missing a tweak somewhere which is slowing me down. Memset shot would be great too.

mnemonick
12-23-2007, 08:36 AM
Thanks!

systemviper
12-23-2007, 08:44 AM
thanks for the tips.. i am getting ready to paint the inside for more of a blackout effect.


So what did you cool with that 120.2, aI am thinking of putting a 120.3 in there and only having the on/off and a cd/dvd but i am not sure of my coooling needs, i think i will have to run 2 seperate loops, since i am cooling a maximux extreme, fusion block, cpu and various gpu's.

camouflage
12-23-2007, 03:14 PM
:D I think I can break 10min 32M soon with this board:

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9659/441ghz32myi2.jpg

:up:

sdumper
12-23-2007, 08:27 PM
Just an observation but I am finding I can post higher with the 333 strap and my QX9650 than with the 400 strap.
http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/5/12/23/t_470fsbbootem_d7b7379.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/23/f_470fsbbootem_d7b7379.jpg&srv=img26)

3oh6
12-23-2007, 10:23 PM
i have too joined the ranks of ME owners and i must say, it wasn't pretty earlier this afternoon. i grabbed the board last night and didn't get a chance to power it up until this morning and for the better part of the day, i was pulling what hair i have left out. coming over from a P5K3-Dlx, which was at the time coming from a P5B-Dlx/P5N32-E SLI, i was not to pleased with how much hassle and how picky this board has been voltage wise.

the P5K3-Dlx was priming at 550FSB within minutes after powering up for the first time. this ME monster was a whole different story. in the end, i have made a ton of progress and managed to get something reasonable out of it so far. this screenshot certainly was not going to happen on the P5K3-Dlx. single 32M, yes, but dual 32M would crap out around 960MHz give or take. Saaya was right...X38 seems to handle high clocks a little better:

click for full size including Memset and voltages...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/3oh6/xsforum/max_extreme/500x8_1000_8-7-6_dual32m-1s.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/3oh6/xsforum/max_extreme/500x8_1000_8-7-6_dual32m-1.png)

still haven't messed with timings or anything like that. just happy to finally get a dual 32M ran at 1000MHz and on the 266 strap even. still not having as much luck with PL level at 450+ FSB having to use 7 but hopefully once i get a better feel with the board i can get PL6 at 450FSB+.

i am still not ready to give this board the praise that Camoflage is giving it but after a day, it seems to have some decent potential. i just wish i had a P5E3-Dlx to compare it with as comparing the X38 to P35 of the P5K3-Dlx isn't a fair fight ;)

and to finish off my first night with this fattie, a shot of the setup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/3oh6/xsforum/max_extreme/first_night-1.jpg

camouflage
12-24-2007, 02:51 AM
:D MAXIMUS EXTREME rulez - now gettin' closer to the 32M-10min-barrier:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3540/45ghz32mmg1.jpg

Happy holiday to all ppl here around........................;)

:up:

sdumper
12-24-2007, 11:23 AM
still need to do some work because i am not pleased with this yet...

(http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/24/f_firsttrym_6ed80a7.jpg&srv=img02)

[IMG]http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/5/12/24/f_firsttrym_6ed80a7.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/24/f_firsttrym_6ed80a7.jpg&srv=img02)

sdumper
12-24-2007, 12:06 PM
Shouldnt my score be lower at 5ghz and 1820 7-7-7-14 1t or am I mistaken?

[img=http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/5/12/24/t_32mm_47ab60c.jpg] (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/24/f_32mm_47ab60c.jpg&srv=img34)

3oh6
12-24-2007, 12:37 PM
Shouldnt my score be lower at 5ghz and 1820 7-7-7-14 1t or am I mistaken?
i would think so with a 45nm. keep in mind though that 32M is all about the OS tweaks and 30-45+ seconds can be had from completely un-tweaked to a fully tweaked setup.

with my exceptionally tweaked, balls out sub 5GHz run on 65nm only a second behind you at a higher frequency, i would say you either have something strange going on or some windows tweaking to do. of course mine is at a higher FSB which really helps too but i would still think a decent 45nm setup should crush a highly optomized 65nm run at similar CPU/RAM frequencies.


PB 32M SPi:
4975.9MHz SPi 32M = 9m 44.734s
click for full size including memset...
http://www.3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/ballistix_pc312800/small/4975_921_7-6-5-16_single32m.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/3oh6/hwbot/e6850/9m44_32m-1.png)

are you using any form of copy wazza for your run?
is LargeSystemCache enabled?

those two alone are worth a solid 20+ seconds on some setups.

sdumper
12-24-2007, 01:20 PM
Nope whats copy wazza and how do i enable large cache?

3oh6
12-24-2007, 02:29 PM
Nope whats copy wazza and how do i enable large cache?

LargeSystemCache:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management]
"LargeSystemCache"=dword:00000001

and just do a search for copy wazza, there are numerous different methods but no distinctive tutorial. i did up a screencast that incorporates copy wazza and ERAM a while back but it isn't the best method anymore in my opinion. it is worth about 8-9 seconds though in 32M:

http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/ocx/jasons_screencast/3oh6_screencast_copywazza-1.html

HTH and lowers your times a bit for ya :up:

sdumper
12-24-2007, 08:02 PM
Thanks ill try after christmas :)

Aerobatic
12-24-2007, 08:43 PM
Hi.. i wonder if i can ask for your advice.. im a relative noob at oc'ing ram (cpu no problem). i've a similar rig to you but have had problems getting my ram running at anywhere near full speed... please can you post up your memset sceenshots (or bios settings?) so i can compare mine and try and identify the problem?

many thanks,

-- Jez

asus maximus extreme (x38 mobo). intel qx9650: fsb 450. cpu multiplier 8.5 ddr3 cellshock 2x1gb, 1800mhz 8.7.6.21. nvidia 8800gtx. gigabyte 3d mercury case, with watercooling of cpu, nb, and gfx card (3 loops off one rad, two s-flex fans swapped for the stock gigabyte noisy ones).


Both my Maximus Formula and Extreme have extra probes on the NB/SB etc, with the Extreme having 3 extra thermal probes you can place yourselfs. My P5K Premium don't have these sensors. I think it's just a X38 chipset function?



I have also had the 2 x 2GB OCZ DDR3-1600 EB Kit that cost almost Ģ600!! :eek: , which refuse to boot at the advertised speed.. :( so I RMAed it and got the 1800 CellShock. Absolutely loving it!!:D



Note that the Maximus has a 2 phase Northbridge power controller, whereas the Formula, and in fact all my other motherboards, has only single phase. It might have contributed!! :D :up:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/edit.jpg

sdumper
12-25-2007, 05:50 PM
LargeSystemCache:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management]
"LargeSystemCache"=dword:00000001

and just do a search for copy wazza, there are numerous different methods but no distinctive tutorial. i did up a screencast that incorporates copy wazza and ERAM a while back but it isn't the best method anymore in my opinion. it is worth about 8-9 seconds though in 32M:

http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/ocx/jasons_screencast/3oh6_screencast_copywazza-1.html

HTH and lowers your times a bit for ya :up:

Seems to help some but not as much as i expected....

[img=http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/5/12/25/t_501632m7771m_56132ce.jpg] (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/25/f_501632m7771m_56132ce.jpg&srv=img32)

jowi69
12-26-2007, 02:30 AM
under SS :D
http://www.abload.de/img/qx96505278mhz162v32mpka.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=qx96505278mhz162v32mpka.jpg)

sdumper
12-26-2007, 05:48 AM
under SS :D



First off amazing OC :clap: and secondly I am :mad: that I require a ton more volts to get that high.

Also what temp was that run on Im hoping thats a lot colder than a normal SS :p:. My cascade should be ready shortly and ill see what it can do at less than -100c... http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/sdumpers_nce_3_stage_cascade-6625/index.html?t=6625

But more importantly for the purposes of the SuperPi discussion I am surprised that your score is not lower.

ph33rgear
12-26-2007, 07:33 AM
I ordered one of these today :D

27114 *Bundle(3)ASUS Maximus Extreme LGA775 X38 ATX DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI 2GBLAN 1394A SATA RAID Mo 1 $359.99 $359.99
26640 *Bundle(3)Corsair XMS3 Dominator TWIN3X2048-1800C7DFIN DDR3 2X1GB 2GB DDR3-1800 CL 7-7-7-20 XMP Me 1 $599.99 $599.99
27086 *Bundle(3)Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Yorkfield 3.0GHZ 1333FSB 12MB 45N 1 $920.00 $920.00

That's the combo I got, So you guys would suggest replacing the thermal paste before even using it huh?

how hard is it do take the heat sink off to do that? I'm not new to doing this, but on a board with this kind of heat sink, and most I ever paid for a MB makes me a little nervous :p:

sdumper
12-26-2007, 07:36 AM
not hard to clean up paste but yes its needed look at these picts...

http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showpost.php?p=112995&postcount=2


lapped...

http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showpost.php?p=112996&postcount=3

ph33rgear
12-26-2007, 07:45 AM
not hard to clean up paste but yes its needed look at these picts...

http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showpost.php?p=112995&postcount=2


lapped...

http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showpost.php?p=112996&postcount=3

Thanks, that's perfect, nice guide :)

now just going to pace a hole in my carpet waiting for delivery ;)

3oh6
12-26-2007, 09:54 PM
i had pretty decent contact on the northbridge with the stock paste but the southbridge and crosslink were pretty poor, but weren't really hot so it doesn't really effect much. i really should have taken pics while doing it. i take photos of everything else, not sure why i didn't doing this.

either way, after applying AS5 on the northbridge, temps seem to be a little better but nothing spectacular. one big tip though...acetone eats that stock thermal pad like nothing. definitely worth picking some up to save a big hassle.

OBR
12-26-2007, 11:46 PM
post someone good voltage settings for fsb around 500MHz! I cannot to vreak 470MHz ... THANKS!

Nosfer@tu
12-27-2007, 07:18 AM
Yes some voltage settings or bios shot would do wounders :D

Also I cant get AI Suite v1.03.15 to work.
it crashes every time, am I the only one ?

camouflage
12-27-2007, 07:42 AM
Yes some voltage settings or bios shot would do wounders :D

Also I cant get AI Suite v1.03.15 to work.
it crashes every time, am I the only one ?

:shocked: : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=169055

:up: :up: :up:

sdumper
12-27-2007, 07:54 AM
My 5ghz is on phase guys its not water or air so the OC is not anything spectacular...

[img=http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/5/12/25/t_501632m7771m_56132ce.jpg]

vCore 1.71 (real ... this is higher than I needed but I got frustrated after a few errors so just set it...)
NB 1.76
PLL 1.72
vDimm 1.94
vFSB 1.74

Now the important thing my temps were cold -45c evap and -28c real under a modded Mach II by Jinu

tuchan
12-27-2007, 11:43 AM
under SS :D
http://www.abload.de/img/qx96505278mhz162v32mpka.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=qx96505278mhz162v32mpka.jpg)

SS, have you got a pic of this machine in action. Must be one heck of a SS unit, or you have one heck of a CPU! Ln2 time please;)

Oh yeah, great work:up:

3oh6
12-27-2007, 11:49 AM
Yes some voltage settings or bios shot would do wounders :D
all my voltages are in my 500FSB/DDR3-2000 screenshot a few posts back here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2649990&postcount=182), just click for full size and look in the upper right for the Everest readings. just keep in mind it is a dual core, not quad.

i think anyone posting screenshots here should help others by adding in the the Everest voltages since this board provides damn near everything for software to pick up...which is very nice for screenshots.

sdumper
12-27-2007, 08:57 PM
all my voltages are in my 500FSB/DDR3-2000 screenshot a few posts back here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2649990&postcount=182), just click for full size and look in the upper right for the Everest readings. just keep in mind it is a dual core, not quad.

i think anyone posting screenshots here should help others by adding in the the Everest voltages since this board provides damn near everything for software to pick up...which is very nice for screenshots.

Great idea i will install and do so...

3oh6
12-27-2007, 09:27 PM
Great idea i will install and do so...
hehe, you've already been showing them in your screenshots. heck, it was your screenshots that showed me Everest showed all the voltages. all except PLL i guess, just realized that. so thanks ;)

now if there was just some software that would pick up the strap selection. i usually forget to add the text box with the strap i am on for some screenshots.

oh and...

Can someone post an everest score of 1800mhz and 7-6-6-15 for comparison purposes I am wondering if im missing a tweak somewhere which is slowing me down. Memset shot would be great too.
what strap were you on there and did you have AI Twister enabled, disabled, or AUTO. i can give you a comparison but the strap can play a role in bandwidth. so can the PerformanceLevel...do you happen to remember what that was?

adding Memset to all screenshots is helpful too, so that PeformanceLevel can be seen.

sdumper
12-28-2007, 09:51 AM
[QUOTE=3oh6;2658299]hehe, you've already been showing them in your screenshots. heck, it was your screenshots that showed me Everest showed all the voltages. all except PLL i guess, just realized that. so thanks ;)

now if there was just some software that would pick up the strap selection. i usually forget to add the text box with the strap i am on for some screenshots.

Yep since then I repartitioned my drives installed eram and set up a copy Wazza per your directions...thanks it does help!! :)

Also as I mentioned earlier I didnt really need that much vCore it seems so I lowered it:
[img=http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/5/12/28/t_32m937672m_33a09e5.jpg] (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/28/f_32m937672m_33a09e5.jpg&srv=img30)

Now my strap is 333 I am having better stability results with that strap than 400. I have twister set to strong and the other setting set to disabled (cant think of the name of it but its the one that attempts to tighten the timings and instead messes them up) ....

Nosfer@tu
12-28-2007, 02:05 PM
I did some pictures yesterday.
I had by mistake set my strapp for 333, but my board HATES that.
I have been told that it is because it is one of the first reversions.

Running 266 Strapp I can get the board to work and OC, But Im still frustrated over how hard it is to Oc with this board :(

I WILL UPDATE with new pics if we spot any wrong/bad settings.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2016/2145273714_c66c29a166.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2131/2145273450_b0f0a368cb.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2225/2145273174_dfa785c645.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2268/2144479197_3cb0b550b8.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2396/2144478961_a3b5659029.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2026/2145272504_3e2a40362a.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2333/2145272264_42f05e05bc.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2164/2144478321_78050de039.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2318/2145271830_107ce951fb.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2199/2145271652_b82e0706e0.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2240/2145271342_17a8b5eae9.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2058/2145271116_5ed598763a.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2009/2144477223_df3db696fe.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/2145270574_0fa794c728.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2378/2145270288_8203be61c5.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2146/2145270068_29a51ce526.jpg?v=0
And the Frustrating message from the LDC POSTER, this happens when running Strapp 333 or OCing to much

sdumper
12-28-2007, 09:05 PM
What bios version are you running? Also what ram and last I saw something odd in the reported vDimm and the set vDimm.

You set the vDimm to 1.90 which overvolts on my board to 2.0 and yet your dram voltage is showing 1.648 which is very low...

Im using the 9.x version off the asus site...

HammerJacks
12-30-2007, 11:32 AM
Hey,

Imagine you had a retard walk in here and say, I want to overclock my system, and I do not have the slightest idea where to start, what would you say ??

Say he had, oh I don't know :

- Asus Max. Extreme running 904 BIOS on AIR
- Intel Extreme 3Ghz Quadcore 45nm Yorkfield (Zalman 9700 w/ AS5)
- CORSAIR TWIN3X4096-1600C7DHXIN G 4GB DDR3 Memory
- CM Power Pro 1000w PSU, Cooler Master Stacker 830, 8 case fans, Windows Vista Ultimate

So.. for a beginner as in COMPLETE BEGINNER at OC, where do I start? I know my way around the BIOS but never OC'd before. Would like to get 4Ghz out of this chip and would like to get some tight timings using this memory. I thought I would post here since many of you folks seem to know what your doing and I would rather ask those of you who use the same board I have. If anyone has the same setup could you share some info as to what I can attempt?

I appreciate the Voodoo and Black Magic lessons ;-)

sdumper
12-30-2007, 05:59 PM
Sent you a pm:)

Ja8on
12-31-2007, 03:28 AM
SD
I'm in pretty much the same situation as Hammer. I been reading this thread and you guys know what your doing. In the middle of my build. Maximus, Q6600 2gig Super Talent ProjectX 1600, XFX 512 8800GTS AD & 150gig RaptorX 500gig 7200.11 all bunged into a Stacker 831 running Xp pro(Haven't had much luck with Crapsta) Just trying to figure out my WC loop at the minute. D-Tek Fusion, Swiftech mcr220 on a mcp655. I'm only cooling the cpu & chipset atm. So I would be grateful if you could forward that pm on to me too and any useful links to get me started.

BTW Sorry guys for going off topic on this thread.

Ja8on

Nosfer@tu
01-01-2008, 05:36 AM
What bios version are you running? Also what ram and last I saw something odd in the reported vDimm and the set vDimm.

You set the vDimm to 1.90 which overvolts on my board to 2.0 and yet your dram voltage is showing 1.648 which is very low...

Im using the 9.x version off the asus site...

Im running the new 0904 also.
I will just update my volt screenshots when I find the max prime95 stable Clock.
The reason to why I entered 1,9 Vdimm and you cant se it on the volt reading lines is I just entered it, dident apply and reboot. So my mistake mate.

ATM Im running 420x10 primestable. 1,55 Vcore I think.
1.9 Vdimm and everything else increased to the max of the "green" indicator colours.

After a short atempt a few days ago I hit 4965 Mhz and Superpi stable at 4930 Mhz :D

But Im aiming for highest Prime stable and then I will find max benchable speed :D

sdumper
01-01-2008, 10:54 AM
SD
I'm in pretty much the same situation as Hammer. I been reading this thread and you guys know what your doing. In the middle of my build. Maximus, Q6600 2gig Super Talent ProjectX 1600, XFX 512 8800GTS AD & 150gig RaptorX 500gig 7200.11 all bunged into a Stacker 831 running Xp pro(Haven't had much luck with Crapsta) Just trying to figure out my WC loop at the minute. D-Tek Fusion, Swiftech mcr220 on a mcp655. I'm only cooling the cpu & chipset atm. So I would be grateful if you could forward that pm on to me too and any useful links to get me started.

BTW Sorry guys for going off topic on this thread.

Ja8on

PM sent

sdumper
01-01-2008, 11:46 AM
Im running the new 0904 also.
I will just update my volt screenshots when I find the max prime95 stable Clock.
The reason to why I entered 1,9 Vdimm and you cant se it on the volt reading lines is I just entered it, dident apply and reboot. So my mistake mate.

ATM Im running 420x10 primestable. 1,55 Vcore I think.
1.9 Vdimm and everything else increased to the max of the "green" indicator colours.

After a short atempt a few days ago I hit 4965 Mhz and Superpi stable at 4930 Mhz :D

But Im aiming for highest Prime stable and then I will find max benchable speed :D

Hmm im surprised that the 333 strap is giving you problems I have had great luck with the 333 strap so far.

To be honest I am not concerned with prime stable since for what I run at (4.8ghz) I would quickly overheat running prime. What I mean is if I were to try and prime at 4.8 and 1.615 vCore I wouldnt last long since my SS simply cant dissipate that much load. That said I can game and burn videos and music just fine at 4.8 and never drop below an evap of -44c so I am ok without being prime stable.

3oh6
01-01-2008, 11:57 AM
To be honest I am not concerned with prime stable since for what I run at (4.8ghz) I would quickly overheat running prime. What I mean is if I were to try and prime at 4.8 and 1.615 vCore I wouldnt last long since my SS simply cant dissipate that much load. That said I can game and burn videos and music just fine at 4.8 and never drop below an evap of -44c so I am ok without being prime stable.
stable is only as stable as you need it :up:

for you guys looking for settings and examples of overclocks on this board, have a look at my OC Report for the Corsair Dominators in my signature.

i just posted it and it has 18 screenshots of various FSB clocks at 6-6-5, 7-6-5, and 8-7-6 timings. this basically covers the whole range of 400FSB upto and over 500FSB at PL5, PL6, and PL7. in all of the screenshots, the upper right hand corner has the various voltages that Everest picks up. might be helpful to some of the Maximus Extreme owners just to get an idea of what can be ran on this board. HTH

peterpiper
01-01-2008, 12:37 PM
I'm having same problem as infa and Smooth regarding Nvidia problems and high overclock. I'm running a q6600@3.6, 7,7,7,15 (2Gb Cellshock 1800's) 8x450. If I try bump to 8x475, I start to get nvidia errors and eventually bsod?

Nosfer@tu
01-02-2008, 01:04 AM
Hmm im surprised that the 333 strap is giving you problems I have had great luck with the 333 strap so far.

To be honest I am not concerned with prime stable since for what I run at (4.8ghz) I would quickly overheat running prime. What I mean is if I were to try and prime at 4.8 and 1.615 vCore I wouldnt last long since my SS simply cant dissipate that much load. That said I can game and burn videos and music just fine at 4.8 and never drop below an evap of -44c so I am ok without being prime stable.

Nice. That is QUITE a good temp.
I will have to se how far I can bring mine :)


stable is only as stable as you need it :up:

for you guys looking for settings and examples of overclocks on this board, have a look at my OC Report for the Corsair Dominators in my signature.

i just posted it and it has 18 screenshots of various FSB clocks at 6-6-5, 7-6-5, and 8-7-6 timings. this basically covers the whole range of 400FSB upto and over 500FSB at PL5, PL6, and PL7. in all of the screenshots, the upper right hand corner has the various voltages that Everest picks up. might be helpful to some of the Maximus Extreme owners just to get an idea of what can be ran on this board. HTH

Great review mate :)
I dont need prime stable. Just want to find a max OC for 24/7 and then move on to Benchstable

Aerobatic
01-02-2008, 03:54 AM
3oh6 -

thanks for your hard work with the ram timings.. its really helpful! will try configuring my ME when im back from hols.

-- Jez

3oh6
01-02-2008, 05:27 AM
thanks and no problem guys. i just figured seeing a whole pile of examples of settings and such might be useful. there will likely be more OC Reports on this board if i can find time.

i just love the fact that Everest picks up all the voltages that it does, makes it so easy to have all of that information in screenshots. my first time with an ROG of course. i usually just get the Deluxe version and volt mod it ;)

sdumper
01-02-2008, 05:43 AM
3oh6 did those Corsair tests pass Memtest at the voltage and settings specified? Also what were your bios and real settings for 2.0? I have not measured the real voltage but it appears that the bios settings overvolt the ram a good bit.

You may have already specified that some where in your review but I didnt see it...

The reason I am asking is because I tried Memtest on my Crucials last night at 7-7-7-20 450fsb (1800mhz) and bios vDimm set to 1.9 and Memtest failed :(
Also I noticed you didn't go very high in the voltage testing with the Crucials only 1.95 as appossed to 2.15 with the dominators and the Crucials kept up at the same voltage.
Were you concerned that they would not be able to handle the voltage?

I suppose I am just trying to make myself feel better since I purchased 4 GB of the Crucials :)

3oh6
01-02-2008, 06:44 AM
3oh6 did those Corsair tests pass Memtest at the voltage and settings specified? Also what were your bios and real settings for 2.0? I have not measured the real voltage but it appears that the bios settings overvolt the ram a good bit.

You may have already specified that some where in your review but I didnt see it...
no problem, i think it is in there but yes, my Maximus Extreme over-volts 0.10v at every voltage selection so 1.90v = 2.00v. the good thing is that Everest picks up the actual voltage so the voltage shown in all the screenshots is the actual voltage. i measured all the caps around the DIMM slots and they all scale with what the BIOS/Everest report for actual voltage.

as for Memtest, if you are talking about Memtest 86+, i generally just use it to make sure i am not going to bork my Windows install when i am finding my starting point for a particular timing set at the lowest voltage. i only run a couple loops of test #5 and if it doesn't error it is usually safe to go into Windows. after that though, i play by ear and don't use Memtest 86+ anymore because it is rather useless for testing stability in windows. dual 32M is a lot tougher a stability test than Memtest 86+. if you really want, i could test some of the different settings in Memtest 86+ to make sure it isn't spitting out false errors that are totally stable in Windows...don't rule that out either.


Also I noticed you didn't go very high in the voltage testing with the Crucials only 1.95 as appossed to 2.15 with the dominators and the Crucials kept up at the same voltage.
Were you concerned that they would not be able to handle the voltage?
if you read through the Crucial OC report, i mention that the P5K3-Dlx overvolts from the BIOS setting 0.06v so in reality, 1.95v was really 2.01 and at the same voltage, the Dominators walk away from the Ballistix.

the reason i held back on voltage was because at the time of that report, and even now, no one really knows what D9GTR/GTS can take for voltage. with the Ballistix history of not handling voltage all that well, i had no ambition to kill them just yet. plus, they were my only decent kit of DDR3 back then as well. it is a different story now so look for some updated clocks on the Maximus Extreme with the Ballistix and higher voltages.


I suppose I am just trying to make myself feel better since I purchased 4 GB of the Crucials :)
just keep in mind that the Ballistix only have one bin, the DDR3-1600 8-8-8 kit at 1.8v. that is very very conservative specs. with having only one bin, there is going to be more variation in their kits than you will find in the Domintaor DDR3-1800 7-7-7 kit at 2.0v because all of the Dominators are binned for that high of a frequency at those timings.

not all D9GTR will do that but all on the Dominators will because that is what they are binned for. you can't get a bad kit of those Dominators because if you do, they don't run spec, and you RMA. with the Ballistix, their spec is a lot lower so there is a possibility of getting only a good kit instead of a great kit. there is also the possibility of getting a killer kit.

you won't have the chance of getting a killer kit in say the DDR3-1600 7-7-7 kits of Corsair because if they were killer, they would have been DDR3-1800 Dominators...does that make sense?

sdumper
01-02-2008, 06:54 AM
if you read through the Crucial OC report, i mention that the P5K3-Dlx overvolts from the BIOS setting 0.06v so in reality, 1.95v was really 2.01 and at the same voltage, the Dominators walk away from the Ballistix.

the reason i held back on voltage was because at the time of that report, and even now, no one really knows what D9GTR/GTS can take for voltage. with the Ballistix history of not handling voltage all that well, i had no ambition to kill them just yet. plus, they were my only decent kit of DDR3 back then as well. it is a different story now so look for some updated clocks on the Maximus Extreme with the Ballistix and higher voltages.


just keep in mind that the Ballistix only have one bin, the DDR3-1600 8-8-8 kit at 1.8v. that is very very conservative specs. with having only one bin, there is going to be more variation in their kits than you will find in the Domintaor DDR3-1800 7-7-7 kit at 2.0v because all of the Dominators are binned for that high of a frequency at those timings.

not all D9GTR will do that but all on the Dominators will because that is what they are binned for. you can't get a bad kit of those Dominators because if you do, they don't run spec, and you RMA. with the Ballistix, their spec is a lot lower so there is a possibility of getting only a good kit instead of a great kit. there is also the possibility of getting a killer kit.

you won't have the chance of getting a killer kit in say the DDR3-1600 7-7-7 kits of Corsair because if they were killer, they would have been DDR3-1800 Dominators...does that make sense?

:eek: I based my purchase off a review showing the Crucials doing some great things. I made the purchase instead of the dominators and am now having DDR3 envy lol.

Unfortunately for me I currently pay for the equipment I test and it gets fairly pricey so the Crucials will need to last me through my first round of cascade benching and then I will take a look around and see what I want to test next.

regardless I am running into some FSB constraints with my current CPU so would not be able to push the ram any higher than 480 fsb (960mhz anyway).

OBR
01-02-2008, 07:51 AM
please post someone Everest score with 1800MHz memories.

I have 4GHz Yorkie + 22-5-6-7@1800MHz and Read is only 11200MB/s is it right score, or not?

Infa
01-02-2008, 08:17 AM
I'm having same problem as infa and Smooth regarding Nvidia problems and high overclock. I'm running a q6600@3.6, 7,7,7,15 (2Gb Cellshock 1800's) 8x450. If I try bump to 8x475, I start to get nvidia errors and eventually bsod?

Its Really annoying, cant really figure it out either...

I got problems starting at 3.9, its a BSOD 0x00000124 ALLWAYS, same bsod.
think its the cpu dieing on my, couse bsod 0x0000124 are CPU,MEM,MB,GPU error, and i have no problem really with the others than cpu.. when i started with this board 4ghz bsod at beginning, and now 3.9 are the same bsod, that wasnt from the beginning.

And the Nvidia errors are starting with higher FSB, really think its my cpu messing around, couse i think the nvidia errors have been better since i installed SP1 a couple a days ago, try it if u can.. i noticed that 8x485 was on the edge, before it wouldnt go really and nvidia errors or the resolution changed when i entered win, but now it went better if i increased the Vmch, Strange this, i really want to test a Penryn on this board and see what happends, but february? gaah.. long time.... no one want to "give" there ES? :D

Maybe ill jump to X48, im a little pissed on this board actually, wolfdale and x48 will launch about the same time so..

Regards

sdumper
01-02-2008, 08:29 AM
please post someone Everest score with 1800MHz memories.

I have 4GHz Yorkie + 22-5-6-7@1800MHz and Read is only 11200MB/s is it right score, or not?

http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/22/f_1800mhzm_a207230.jpg&srv=img29

3oh6
01-02-2008, 08:45 AM
please post someone Everest score with 1800MHz memories.

I have 4GHz Yorkie + 22-5-6-7@1800MHz and Read is only 11200MB/s is it right score, or not?
like the voltages, all of my screenshots in the Dominator OC Report have Everest bandwidth/latency tests in them as well as Memset.

there is more to bandwidth than just the memory timings. PerformanceLevel as well as strap play a role as well. this is a screenshot of basically 900MHz at 7-6-5:

http://www.3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/dominator_pc314400/7-6-5-x-2.png

PL is 6 as seen in Memset and it is on the 266 strap with AI Twister on Strong. this is pretty much the best bandwidth you can get at these clocks on the Maximus Extreme. because it won't run a PL value more than 1 value less than CL, PL6 is the lowest it will run with CL7. HTH

o polonos
01-02-2008, 08:50 AM
Hello guys ! do we know max fsb at this mobo ?
Max i have see 500 at your ss but it's not god with locked multi cpu's :D
Regards :)

sdumper
01-02-2008, 08:59 AM
Hello guys ! do we know max fsb at this mobo ?
Max i have see 500 at your ss but it's not god with locked multi cpu's :D
Regards :)

Chip dependant and cooling impacted...

Best I have seen with a quad has been the QX9650 at FSB 528 with a multi of 6 as published in this months CPU magazine...

o polonos
01-02-2008, 09:10 AM
I have one E6850 max fsb with this cpu was 552(cpu-z) with unmodded Abit IP35Pro with DICE
With maximus extreme im hoping to something more :D

sdumper
01-02-2008, 09:48 AM
I have one E6850 max fsb with this cpu was 552(cpu-z) with unmodded Abit IP35Pro with DICE
With maximus extreme im hoping to something more :D

This board shines in other areas such as the dual 16x lanes and stability. Im not saying this board wont hit the same levels as the p35 but from what I have encountered from the quad core side I wouldn't expect a huge leap in top end FSB.

Again this board is a great board and has a great deal to offer the enthusiast besides a high FSB.



Infa: Maybe ill jump to X48, im a little pissed on this board actually, wolfdale and x48 will launch about the same time so..

Regarding the earlier comment about waiting for the x48. It is my understanding that the x48's are simply high binned x38's so im not sure it is wise to wait for the x48 instead water cool your x38 chipset and bump up the voltage a bit to compensate if needed.

peterpiper
01-02-2008, 11:25 AM
It seems I have my 8800GTX and Antec Quattro Problem back (just found out today to be a confirmed compatability issue with Antec). I had this prob with build in sig, with games in Steam not displaying right. I rma'd the psu and things were fine until the new build. Anyway, ordered 2 3870's today, hopefully that'll see the end to that.
This might explain the errors I'm seeing with a high overclock!?

sdumper
01-02-2008, 12:40 PM
3870's play nicely with this board.
I am coming very close to 23,000 in 3dmark06 with stock air cooled HIS 3870's in crossfire...

Smooth
01-02-2008, 05:46 PM
@peterpiper :
in my case it is the memory - i spent a long time with the guys from OCZ-support... and I tried varios settings... no chance - as soon as I set the mem to 1600MHz - bsod ...
Now I am waiting to change my RAMs - gonna get those cellshocks 1800 - but unfortunatly they are out of stock at the moment... so I´ll gonna wait till they are back ( those cellshocks ) and keep my OCZs @ ~1300MHz

camouflage
01-03-2008, 03:06 AM
@peterpiper :
in my case it is the memory - i spent a long time with the guys from OCZ-support... and I tried varios settings... no chance - as soon as I set the mem to 1600MHz - bsod ...
Now I am waiting to change my RAMs - gonna get those cellshocks 1800 - but unfortunatly they are out of stock at the moment... so Iīll gonna wait till they are back ( those cellshocks ) and keep my OCZs @ ~1300MHz

:D Good choice, You'll have a lot of fun mate..........;)

Infa
01-03-2008, 03:22 AM
Regarding the earlier comment about waiting for the x48. It is my understanding that the x48's are simply high binned x38's so im not sure it is wise to wait for the x48 instead water cool your x38 chipset and bump up the voltage a bit to compensate if needed.

Yes, i know its almost no change to x48, just want to change my board, its not a stable one i think...very hard to keep a good OC that was piece of cake on my Commando, im dissapointed.. maybe they have fixed som minor baby bugs that are in X38 that we dont know of...it is a new NB afterall.

From 4ghz stable 8x500 or 9x445, to crashing at the first second of orthos even below 3.9 on this board, and hitting 500 more that bootable are impossible. and now im stuck with the crap :) .

Im starting to think as someone above said with the instability of the Crosslink chip, maybe Dual x16 lanes AND dual X8 chip are not so good together at higher clocks.. may interfer or so?



regards.

Z3R0-CooL
01-03-2008, 04:58 AM
1) Whats the maximum recommended voltages for 24-7 usage on water (NB, mosfet and SB and CPU on water) for:

CPU PLL
Northbridge Voltage
DRAM (4x1GB D9GTRs Cellshock 1800) with active cooling (2.0V) ?
FSB Termination
Southbridge
SB 1.5V

for 24-7 ... not suicide benches

2) Is it possible to run 1T with 4x1GB sticks? Is so how? NB volts up and DRAM volts up ?

Thanks. Would appreciate any help

camouflage
01-03-2008, 05:57 AM
1) Whats the maximum recommended voltages for 24-7 usage on water (NB, mosfet and SB and CPU on water) for:


CPU PLL

Keep it sub 1.7 - Intel's spec is 1.5 +5% max


Northbridge Voltage

On water I'd say keep it sub 2v



DRAM (4x1GB D9GTRs Cellshock 1800) with active cooling (2.0V) ?

2.24


FSB Termination

1.6


Southbridge

Never needed more than 1.15


SB 1.5V

no need to go above 1.5


for 24-7 ... not suicide benches

For 24/7 I'd go not up to the max


2) Is it possible to run 1T with 4x1GB sticks? Is so how? NB volts up and DRAM volts up ?

Just try........;)

Thanks. Would appreciate any help

:up:

Z3R0-CooL
01-03-2008, 06:53 AM
ok.. VERDICT

Impossible to run 1T with 4 sticks :( no matter the volts :( :( :(

oh well......

icon57
01-03-2008, 07:05 AM
what would be some decent DDR3 mems for this board?

sdumper
01-03-2008, 09:30 AM
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10007074

sdumper
01-03-2008, 09:34 AM
NB upto 2 volts for 24/7 use on water :eek:

Seems way too high for me I would have said 1.76 max for 24x7 but that was just my gut feeling I don't have anything to back that up...

Also for DDR3 is 2.25 really safe for 24x7 with fan cooling? I would say no more than 2 volts at least for my Crucial

Just my 2 cents...

peterpiper
01-03-2008, 02:10 PM
@peterpiper :
in my case it is the memory - i spent a long time with the guys from OCZ-support... and I tried varios settings... no chance - as soon as I set the mem to 1600MHz - bsod ...
Now I am waiting to change my RAMs - gonna get those cellshocks 1800 - but unfortunatly they are out of stock at the moment... so Iīll gonna wait till they are back ( those cellshocks ) and keep my OCZs @ ~1300MHz

I've got the Cellshocks and they appear to be a good match to this Board. I'm running 450x8, 7,7,7,15 @ Auto (2.00v Everest). Memtest 86 is okay, Superpi 32M Crashes (but seems to at looser timings too, anyway I gather not an uncommon problem).

Question to other posters with the Cellshocks, are you sure 2.00volts is okay with active cooling?

sdumper
01-03-2008, 02:19 PM
I've got the Cellshocks and they appear to be a good match to this Board. I'm running 450x8, 7,7,7,15 @ Auto (2.00v Everest). Memtest 86 is okay, Superpi 32M Crashes (but seems to at looser timings too, anyway I gather not an uncommon problem).

Question to other posters with the Cellshocks, are you sure 2.00volts is okay with active cooling?

Very nice I can run my Crucials at 8-7-7-14 1t at real 1.9 (Everest) but they wont run 7-7-7-15 at real 2.0 and I refuse to go any higher on the vDimm with the Crucials because to be honest I dont think they can take the voltage.

cuprasport
01-03-2008, 07:17 PM
got to say i love this mobo i just cant seem to git 500 fsb with my quad yet

Aivas47a
01-03-2008, 08:40 PM
Not many quads can run 500.

sdumper
01-03-2008, 09:10 PM
got to say i love this mobo i just cant seem to get 500 fsb with my quad yet

Your not alone my max bootable FSB so far has been 485x6 and that was very high vNB/vFSB...:shakes:

cuprasport
01-03-2008, 09:19 PM
ive seen q6600's 4ghz stable on an 8x multi

sdumper
01-03-2008, 09:47 PM
ive seen q6600's 4ghz stable on an 8x multi


thats nice im glad youve seen some...

simri
01-04-2008, 04:24 AM
What Lian Li Case is in Maximus Extreme Manual
This a one issue with Lian-Li PC-65B and Maximus Extreme
this not possible to use the HDD Bay what whitout to remove the bay.

cuprasport
01-04-2008, 06:13 AM
having some strange happenings with this board today

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/cupra-sport/OCUK/strangecoretemp.jpg

also i can post at 4.15ghz fine but 4.0 is a no go