Anybody got an "ES" E8500?

[Brahmzy]

I know Quads are all the rage right now, but my plan is to dump my E6600 in January for an E8500. I'm real excited about that 9.5x multi. Just picked up a P5E and some 2x2GB GSkill PC8000 for it.

Anyway, what are some of the numbers folks are getting - any ES E8500's out there? I assume 4GHz on air is certainly possible with these chips and more, right? Obviously the dual-core should OC a little higher than the Quad-Core. If my E6600 can do 3.6GHz on a P5W DH, surely 4Ghz should be cake with an E8500 on a P5E with PC8000 RAM.

[Clockwork_Apple]

Windwithme got his hands on an E8500. 4.7Ghz on air... source (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=534766)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/ptrlynch/e85004700pirs3.png

[metro.cl]

Argh dude i should have gotten my E8400 by now is still at customs and next week (or 10 days) i should get a E8500 too :)

[kiwi]

metro don't say that you pay tax for ES cpus :D

[Brahmzy]

SICK. JUST SICK.

This is my next chip ... for CHEAP!

[metro.cl]

metro don't say that you pay tax for ES cpus :D

I hope not, but i believe we have the laziest/fattest custom agents here, i called and they said they can take up to 5 days to clear the CPU :mad: :mad:

[gundersausage]

Where do you buy an ES 84/8500 from?

[chatmaster]

Not only the great clock speeds but they will come with 6mb cache right?

What performance will that have in real over the 4mb ones?

[Omastar]

Not only the great clock speeds but they will come with 6mb cache right?

What performance will that have in real over the 4mb ones?

Yep, 6MB cache. If Yorkfield's clock for clock performance over Kentsfield is any indication, Wolfdale should be from 5-30% faster than Conroe (note 30% represents DivX and other things relying heavily on SSE4 instructions). But as time goes on I'm sure the gap between Conroe and Wolfdale will widen as more apps integrate SSE4 instructions.

[Den Leiw]

I hope we can expect 4,5 Ghz on Air with non ES chips

[kl0012]

Not only the great clock speeds but they will come with 6mb cache right?

What performance will that have in real over the 4mb ones?

Here are some benchmarks E8400 (3.0 GHz) vs E6850:
http://www.behardware.com/articles/691-1/intel-core-2-extreme-qx9650.html

[Viss]

Early next week mine should be here (depending on customs).

[Clockwork_Apple]

Where do you buy an ES 84/8500 from?
How to get Intel Engineering Sample CPUs. (http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-001616.htm)

[pumbertot]

How to get Intel Engineering Sample CPUs. (http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-001616.htm)

:rofl:

[Nazu]

Cool. I'm gonna email them and see if I'll get one too :D

[LagunaX]

How to get Intel Engineering Sample CPUs. (http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-001616.htm)

Is this for real?
Anyone try this b4?
Lol, worth a try...:ROTF:

[AriciU]

Can't find any info on how to get an NDA. After that it's easy :D

[Chri$ch]

Got today a E8500 ES, first test on water... (try later with lower vcore)

http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8500-Q738/Prime-01.jpg

[WilliamE]

This is my record on Air.
http://elmenhorst.no/willy/oc/hehehe.JPG

[AriciU]

This is my record on Air.
http://elmenhorst.no/willy/oc/hehehe.JPG

Damn! What ram are you using? ~600mhz and those timings is insane. :D

[Chri$ch]

This is my record on Air.
my record on water

http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8500-Q738/SuperPi-1M-02.jpg

i have some problems with the maximus formula, i try tomorrow a P5K-E P35.

[dominick32]

my record on water

http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8500-Q738/SuperPi-1M-02.jpg

i have some problems with the maximus formula, i try tomorrow a P5K-E P35.

Thats a dual core with lower TDP than the QX. I see that you are only pushing 1.52volts into it. If youve got the balls, stuff 1.65vcore into it for a short 5 minutes and you should have close to 5.0 Ghz in that chip.

I got 4.70 out of my QX on water 1.65vcore:

http://strippoli.com/crazy.jpg

[lazy]

How to get Intel Engineering Sample CPUs. (http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-001616.htm)

is this real? is this how the other members receive them?

[Plaicd]

Yes then they break the NDA by posting here.

[Bobsama]

My question is what does the NDA itself actually say? I might give a call to some of these vendors and check out the NDA, then contact Intel about getting an ES Q9450.

[computerpro3]

except that none of us probably qualify for a nda...it's an application process, not "hey I like Intel and promise I won't tell anyone about the chip"....

[Supertim0r]

and "most of the time", you have to return the chip

[WilliamE]

Damn! What ram are you using? ~600mhz and those timings is insane. :D

Geil 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2 9280Plus 1160MHz 4-4-4-12

[Chri$ch]

P5K-E P35 arrived today, it is much better than the Maximus Formula

Max. Clock @ stock NB VCore (1.25v), VCore limited

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=272559
http://www.abload.de/img/cpu-49110ij.jpg

SuperPi 1M no problem (it run with ~1.58v but cant set it in bios)
http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8500-Q738/SuperPi-1M-03.jpg

[ownage]

I hope i can get an ES Wolfdale, but its not easy to get one. Buying or sellling ES cpu's is illegal, no matter what some people say. Trying to find guys who sell them is really hard, so if someone knows a guy in Holland, let me know. :yepp:

[Chri$ch]

32M without tweaks (CPU is watercooled)

http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8500-Q738/SuperPi-32M-01.jpg

[flopper]

nice.

[Brahmzy]

Wow - those are some crazy OC's - you guys are nuts :)

[dominick32]

32M without tweaks (CPU is watercooled)

http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8500-Q738/SuperPi-32M-01.jpg

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PREVIEW MAN!!!!
This might actually make me sell my QX.

[Chri$ch]

its a nice CPU..

4.1Ghz @ 1.304v VCore Prime and only 27°C CoreTemp (Watercooled, no chiller
or something else) :D

http://www.abload.de/thumb/123dml.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=123dml.jpg)

[Nate P.]

I hope i can get an ES Wolfdale, but its not easy to get one. Buying or sellling ES cpu's is illegal, no matter what some people say. Trying to find guys who sell them is really hard, so if someone knows a guy in Holland, let me know. :yepp:
What if it's an old ES and the retail CPU has already been released... like some Conroe ES's? Do ES CPU's generally overclock better than retail CPU's?

[heydo6]

anyone know a link where we might find the application ? wouldn't mind looking into this myself ....

[Zeus]

Awesome CPU Chrisch!

[SynGroW]

32M without tweaks (CPU is watercooled)

http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8500-Q738/SuperPi-32M-01.jpg

Very nice results :)

Do you know if the CPU has a FSB wall? I'm getting a E8500 next week and I'm wondering if it's usefull to run it with LN2 :D So I'm kinda curious if these CPU's go up to ~570MHz FSB on air/water.

[giorgos th.]

Give at last the Wolfdales to the people............

[Chri$ch]

Very nice results :)

Do you know if the CPU has a FSB wall? I'm getting a E8500 next week and I'm wondering if it's usefull to run it with LN2 :D So I'm kinda curious if these CPU's go up to ~570MHz FSB on air/water.
i dont try max FSB, but 525FSB @ stock Mobo voltages give a bluescreen @ windows bootscreen.

btw Prime run 10h without failures @ 4.1Ghz, with 4.2Ghz @ 1.304v give it a bluescreen after 45min :(

[flopper]

What if it's an old ES and the retail CPU has already been released... like some Conroe ES's? Do ES CPU's generally overclock better than retail CPU's?

similiar in performance what I have seen.
Watercooling this chips and get 4.5ghz seems to be common.
The new metal gates seems to do a lot for intel.

I get my 6750 to 3800mhz and can go higher but it starts to get into limitations.
My old starting out 6600 did like 3200mhz.
(a year old)

I look forward to januari.
Just need a chip that has high multipel since they clock really well.
seems 10x might be the sweetspot.
or maybe 9.5 ones.:up:

[Zeus]

I hope i can get an ES Wolfdale, but its not easy to get one. Buying or sellling ES cpu's is illegal, no matter what some people say. Trying to find guys who sell them is really hard, so if someone knows a guy in Holland, let me know. :yepp:

+1 :D

[Chri$ch]

ohh.. i love this chip :D

http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8500-Q738/Prime-05.png

[Supertim0r]

impressive cpu :up:

[metro.cl]

damn those numbers are great i still dont get the CPU, tomorrow one should be here

[dinos22]

what
is that all
i was expecting 5GHz prime stable :D
j/k :shocked:

don't be a wuss give it 1.75v and go for gold :D

[LagunaX]

How to get Intel Engineering Sample CPUs. (http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-001616.htm)

Thank you for your interest in Intel.

By and large we use our OEM manufacturers as beta test sites for our
new components and systems.
I am not aware of any public beta testing programs at this time. You
may want to occasionally check our
website at http://www.intel.com. This is where we have announced our
previous user programs and post the application to participate.

I hope this helps.

Again, thank you for your interest in Intel.

Sincerely,
Thea P.
Intel Customer Support

Looks like I'll have to wait for the retail...=(

[Chri$ch]

what
is that all
i was expecting 5GHz prime stable :D
:ROTF:

i tried 4.5Ghz with Watercooling, but with 1.464v run it only ~1h stable. I try later
with a little bit more vcore :)

screen is after 32min, have no screen from 1h run :(
http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8500-Q738/Prime-06.png

[mXpS]

Thank you for your interest in Intel.

By and large we use our OEM manufacturers as beta test sites for our
new components and systems.
I am not aware of any public beta testing programs at this time. You
may want to occasionally check our
website at http://www.intel.com. This is where we have announced our
previous user programs and post the application to participate.

I hope this helps.

Again, thank you for your interest in Intel.

Sincerely,
Thea P.
Intel Customer Support

Looks like I'll have to wait for the retail...=(
If it were that easy, everyone would using the 45nms already. You'll will have to make friends with the right people..;)

[Demo]

holy f**k 4.7Ghz

[Rare1]

Thank you for your interest in Intel.

By and large we use our OEM manufacturers as beta test sites for our
new components and systems.
I am not aware of any public beta testing programs at this time. You
may want to occasionally check our
website at http://www.intel.com. This is where we have announced our
previous user programs and post the application to participate.

I hope this helps.

Again, thank you for your interest in Intel.

Sincerely,
Thea P.
Intel Customer Support

Looks like I'll have to wait for the retail...=(

Lulz....I will make sure to check back daily :)

[dinos22]

Chri$ch
max 32M SuperPi FSB MHz??????

[Zeus]

Chri$ch
max 32M SuperPi FSB MHz??????

My guess is 4550-4600.

What a nice chip!

edit: missed that 4750MHz 32M screen...OMG!

[Chri$ch]

Chri$ch
max 32M SuperPi FSB MHz??????
i try max FSB later, but i think it isnt much higher than 500FSB :(

edit:

ok, at this time is max FSB ~510-515Mhz for 32M (with lower Multi), i dont
know why but with higher FSB get i reboot, bluescreens or "not exact in round" :(

max. FSB i get with multi 9

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=275134

http://www.abload.de/img/cpu-4904vvz.jpg

max. FSB with mutli 8 (no valid :( )

http://www.abload.de/img/01v964.jpg

[Glow9]

Not too sound dumb but how are you guys ordering these chips early or from where?

[psilos]

i have a question....
All ES cpu's aren't unlocked?

[Chri$ch]

i have a question....
All ES cpu's aren't unlocked?
only min to max multi (for example E8500 multi 6 - 9.5). retail have same multis
unlocked.

higher multis than default can only extreme editions (QX9650)

[psilos]

but intel ES cpu's don't have unlock and the higher ?

[hipro5]

but intel ES cpu's don't have unlock and the higher ?

The VERY OLD ONES....Pentium 4 series.....These new ones.....NOPE..... :)

[dinos22]

i try max FSB later, but i think it isnt much higher than 500FSB :(

edit:

ok, at this time is max FSB ~510-515Mhz for 32M (with lower Multi), i dont
know why but with higher FSB get i reboot, bluescreens or "not exact in round" :(

max. FSB i get with multi 9

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=275134

http://www.abload.de/img/cpu-4904vvz.jpg

max. FSB with mutli 8 (no valid :( )

http://www.abload.de/img/01v964.jpg

515+40
555*9.5=5272Mhz :( sux

what PLL was that on?

[Chri$ch]

i set PLL to 1.80v (max), i dont know how much it is real, the bios is a little bit
buggy (1.50v vPLL = 1.74v real / 1.60v vPLL = 1.65v real / 1.25v vNB = 1.55v /
1.40v vNB = 1.40v)

i think with dice / ln2 is more FSB possible.

i put the cpu tomorrow on a Maximus Formula Rev. 1.03G.

[dinos22]

i added 40MHz benchable FSB for dice in that calculation

[RampageTweaker]

That's a sick cpu, and interesting to read about that whole ES thing :D

[Northwood]

just buy ES chips off ebay, thats where i get mine from.

[heydo6]

like this ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-2-Duo-E8400-ES-3G-1333FSB-C0-NOT-E6850-E6750_W0QQitemZ300182029090QQihZ020QQcategoryZ1471 29QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Chri$ch]

like this ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-2-Duo-E8400-ES-3G-1333FSB-C0-NOT-E6850-E6750_W0QQitemZ300182029090QQihZ020QQcategoryZ1471 29QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
holy.... this price is heavy...

btw short test for max clock on P35-DQ6 with watercooling :up:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=280970

http://www.abload.de/img/cpu-5016a6t.png

[heydo6]

wow nice work

i can't wait to get one of these retail under water .

[C0ncrete]

Aww man it's in Sydney too :(

Considering these will be cheap as (if the outdated price table is anything to go by) I just cant justify spending $500 when they are due in a little over a month.

[dinos22]

Aww man it's in Sydney too :(

Considering these will be cheap as (if the outdated price table is anything to go by) I just cant justify spending $500 when they are due in a little over a month.

looks like that's victor's ebay account

nvidiaxp on OCAU :up:

[M3kk]

holy.... this price is heavy...

btw short test for max clock on P35-DQ6 with watercooling :up:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=280970

http://www.abload.de/img/cpu-5016a6t.png

Where is the max 1M PI stable? :)

[Chri$ch]

Where is the max 1M PI stable? :)
On Foxconn Mars...

http://www.abload.de/img/4.84ghzsuperpi-1m-01q06.png

i get the next days a Asus P5K-E, i try if this can more :)

[FZ1]

God, I can't wait for this bad boy to get released!
@Chrisch - what issues were you having with the Maximus? I just orderd one along with the Ballistix.

[chrisf6969]

Nice! results look promising.

I'm just hoping for an easy 4.0Ghz clock with low voltage & low heat. If the e8x00 turn out to be cheap&dirty 4Ghz that should be plenty to hold me over until Nehalem (sp?).

[FZ1]

:( Looks like the E8x00's may be delayed. Dammit.:mad:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20071219103937_Intel_Set_to_Postpone_Introduction_ of_New_Quad_Core_Microprocessors.html

Initially Intel planned to roll-out its code-named Wolfdale and Yorkfield microprocessors that are projected to be marketed under Intel Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Extreme brand-names on the 10th of January, 2008. But the plans have changed and, according to a news-story at HKEPC web-site, Intel will only be able to release dual-core Intel Core 2 Duo 8000-series (Wolfdale) processors in February, while Intel Core 2 Quad 9000-series (Yorkfield) will only see the light of the day in February or March.

[CERO]

Hmm, I was tempting to test 1 of these because of the nice price tag lol

[milan03]

You guys think that chip would run 4.5Ghz 24/7 orthos stable on some good air?

[heydo6]

^ i hope they will run that under water !!!

[weirkved]

If someone as one of these or an E8400 to sell, i am able to buy it...
JUST PM!

[FZ1]

If someone as one of these or an E8400 to sell, i am able to buy it...
JUST PM!

GL with that. I'd so buy one too but it's not likely peeps are willing to part with them.

[zsamz_]

nice cpu guys looking throught this thread got me excited

[flopper]

You guys think that chip would run 4.5Ghz 24/7 orthos stable on some good air?

Yes.

Good examplars will do that.

[emoners]

so current P35 boards can handle this 45nm procs?
hmm i wonder if i should upgrade my E6850 to an E8500...or go directly to Quads...

[luihed]

Unless you get a QX dont expect these kind of numbers from quads.... Dont know the multi of the cheaper quads but even at 9x ( QX default ) youll be veryyyyy lucky to hit 4.5gs .. not too many quads get to 500fsb, especially the 45nm ones....

[milan03]

Yes.

Good examplars will do that.

THen I guess its worth buying one in a few months.

[Ice Demon]

Hello...
Wanted to ask why ES don't have unlocked multys? Heard that they have.

BTW. Do they OC better or worse than the retail versions?
I'm supposed to get one in a week or two...