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mascaras
11-21-2007, 05:38 PM
NVIDIA to Adapt AMD Chipsets to Enable CrossFire X Features on NVIDIA GPUs

Things are indeed looking up for AMD as of late. NVIDIA recently unveiled plans to adapt the AMD MCP78S chipset into their motherboards, which will enable some CrossFire X features on NVIDIA chipsets. The first feature to run on these new hybrid motherboards is Hybrid SLI. Like Hybrid CrossFire, Hybrid SLI will allow for the dynamic switching of onboard and independent graphics. During normal operation, the computer will run off onboard graphics, saving energy. When the user pops in an extreme game, the machine will automatically switch graphics operations over to the much more powerful graphics card. These features will be stuck into select upcoming NVIDIA nForce 780i (http://www.techpowerup.com/?45024) motherboards, which will support Socket AM2 and AM2+ CPUs over a 2600MT/s HyperTransport 3.0 bus, six 3Gb/s SATA drives, 12 USB ports and Gigabit Ethernet.

Source: TechpowerUp (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=540838&postcount=1)




Nvidia on-the-fly GPU switching desktop debut due Q1 '08


Nvidia will bring the ability to flip at will between integrated and discrete graphics cores to the desktop early next year, courtesy of upcoming AMD-oriented chipset the MCP78S.

The chipset incorporates a GeForce 8-class DirectX 10, Shader Model 4.0 graphics engine, but it's also capable of driving a PCI Express 2.0 graphics card connected via the chipset's 16 PCIe 2.0 lanes, a presentation slide posted by Hexus.net reveals.

That's broadly what most integrated chipsets do, but the MCP78S also supports Hybrid SLI, which allows the user to flip between the two GPUs according to need. Need 3D performance for gaming? Activate the graphics card. The rest of the time: host the system's graphics on the lower-power integrated GPU.

Switching between the two can take place on the fly, unlike past attempts to do this, all of which required a restart. That was enough to put most users off utilitising the option.

Hybrid SLI first emerged back in July 2006 under the name 'SLI Power'. Since then, AMD began talking up PowerXPress, its name for the notebook-oriented version of the technique that's set to debut in AMD's 'M780' mobile chipset in Q1 2008.

Nvidia renamed SLI Power as Hybrid SLI back in June this year but then was pitching the technology as a notebook feature. Laptops are, after all, more sensitive to power draw than desktops. However, it's clear from the latest reports that Nvidia reckons it'll be useful for desktops too.

Current concerns about performance-per-Watt have already driven AMD to incorporate power-saving technology in its new ATI Radeon HD 3800 series of GPUs, all of which clock down according to the kind of apps the user is running, the better to minimise desktop power draw.

In addition to Hybrid SLI, the MCP78S will support Socket AM2 and AM2+ CPUs over a 2600MT/s HyperTransport 3.0 bus. It will also handle six 3Gb/s SATA drives, 12 USB ports and Gigabit Ethernet.

Separately, early 2008 will also see the arrival of Nvidia nForce 780-based motherboards, a month after the chip makers launches the chipset, it has been claimed.

The 780 will appear as the 780i SLI - aka 'C72XE' - and the 780a SLI - 'C72P' - targeting Intel and AMD platforms, respectively. Both chipsets will drive three PCI Express 2.0 x16 graphics card slots for 'tri-SLI' operation, mobo-maker moles claim.

Both are high-end chipsets aimed at gamers who might otherwise opt for Intel's X38 or the upcoming X48.

Source: Reg Hardware (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/21/hybrid_sli_on_desktops/)




regards

hecktic
11-21-2007, 05:40 PM
lol how so... if AMD owns ATI then why in the hell would they be helping Nvidia ?

I sense a dirty AMD coming...

Zytek_Fan
11-21-2007, 05:46 PM
What if we are getting closer to NVIDIA buying AMD? :eek:

dinos22
11-21-2007, 05:51 PM
yeap wasn't sure if ok to talk about this but Hybrid SLI is going to be very cool :D:D:D can't wait for this to all happen

:)

hecktic
11-21-2007, 05:54 PM
What if we are getting closer to NVIDIA buying AMD? :eek:

yeah that would make sense after the last Quarter earnings Nvidia posted.. but then again if Nvidia does buy AMD then we can all say good bye to cheap prices on graphics card cause Nvidia wont have any reason to offer low prices anymore

Zytek_Fan
11-21-2007, 05:56 PM
yeah that would make sense after the last Quarter earnings Nvidia posted.. but then again if Nvidia does buy AMD then we can all say good bye to cheap prices on graphics card cause Nvidia wont have any reason to offer low prices anymore

It would be after Intel launches Larrabee. In order to avoid charges of a monopoly on the discreet GPU market.

STEvil
11-21-2007, 06:39 PM
Took them long enough to make the feature work correctly.. its been a feature of MXM spec for a long long time but never worked right from the start...

LordEC911
11-21-2007, 07:23 PM
What if we are getting closer to NVIDIA buying AMD? :eek:
Good luck with that...

Nuker_
11-21-2007, 09:08 PM
Good luck with that...

Yeah. Will never happen I assure you. If anyone would end up buying AMD it would be IBM or some other company.

zanzabar
11-21-2007, 09:14 PM
u guys are missing the big picture if sli will now work on new cards on a crossfire x motherboard then nvidia gets to use its grafix cards on the intel platform since i think that they have figured out that thats how ati makes their highend cards sell is by xfire on intel chipsets


and this will be great for their cards since xfire is way more efficient than sli and xfire is an open platform so amd wont get royalties so nv will get more profit (this is very bad for amd)

GAR
11-21-2007, 09:24 PM
nvidia is a huge company, dont underestimate them.....or their greed.

deathman20
11-21-2007, 09:58 PM
Now if SLI could come to the 965, 975, P35, and X35 chipsets that would be great.

VulgarHandle
11-21-2007, 10:07 PM
u guys are missing the big picture if sli will now work on new cards on a crossfire x motherboard then nvidia gets to use its grafix cards on the intel platform since i think that they have figured out that thats how ati makes their highend cards sell is by xfire on intel chipsets


and this will be great for their cards since xfire is way more efficient than sli and xfire is an open platform so amd wont get royalties so nv will get more profit (this is very bad for amd)

amd makes the chips, that's how AMD profits

nn_step
11-21-2007, 10:24 PM
looks the close relationship of AMD and nVidia still remains intact

weeds
11-21-2007, 11:19 PM
amd makes the chips, that's how AMD profits


MCP78 family of chipsets are Nvidia chipsets for Amd platform. Nvidia makes them. That techpowerup quoted article from Reg Hardware is strange.
Like I said MCP78 is a nvidia chipset so why wouldnt they put it on their motherboards.

http://www.dvhardware.net/article22970.html
http://www.behardware.com/news/8973/mcp78-igp-directx-10-and-hybrid-sli-on-the-way.html
http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/364
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=10471


NVIDIA to Adapt AMD Chipsets to Enable CrossFire X Features on NVIDIA GPUs

What CrossFire X Features would this be? Cant be dynamic switching of onboard and independent graphics as this is a Hybrib SLi feature which MCP78 supports and Hybrid SLi was announced months before Crossfire X.

gillll
11-21-2007, 11:30 PM
looks the close relationship of AMD and nVidia still remains intact

it's not like they have a choice :D there's only amd intel nvidia sis via :D that's all the players.

intel and nvidia have some issues so nvidia wants to show intel that she don't hold for her that much.

this thing might be just to help nvidia to push intel to the wall .
(if u can say such a thing)

n-sanity
11-22-2007, 04:57 AM
big red has an evil plan, i can smell it.

Watch they agree upon everything, nvidia pumps big bucks into this and the chipset bombs...

metro.cl
11-22-2007, 08:12 AM
they didnt understand a thing.

Hybrid SLI has diferent features for desktops and notebooks and this guys mixed it all up.

saaya
11-22-2007, 10:48 AM
0_o ? whaaa?

dinos22
11-22-2007, 01:48 PM
they didnt understand a thing.

Hybrid SLI has diferent features for desktops and notebooks and this guys mixed it all up.

:D::D:D:D:D:D:D:D