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hehe ...
knightwolf654
11-21-2007, 02:56 AM
i hate you give me now!!! :D
Origin_Unknown
11-21-2007, 03:01 AM
i thought that they didnt have pins on the bottom of the chip?
the last pic looks like it has tiny ones, about 2/3 mm
Cooper
11-21-2007, 03:04 AM
i thought that they didnt have pins on the bottom of the chip?
the last pic looks like it has tiny ones, about 2/3 mm
It is socket AM2/AM2+ compatible therefor it has pins.
Origin_Unknown
11-21-2007, 03:07 AM
ah, i always thought it was 1207 pin ... doh
XS Janus
11-21-2007, 03:19 AM
haha, nice!
However who are the kidding with the 386 type heatsink :)
Cost cut much :D ... good
Jamesrt2004
11-21-2007, 03:21 AM
Bit of a weedy cooler?
breakfromyou
11-21-2007, 03:27 AM
I thought it would have a better heatsink.
What kind of temperatures do you get on the stock heatsink? Stock clock speeds...
Dimitriman
11-21-2007, 03:37 AM
indeed that heatsing reminds me of the one for Athlon 64 3500+ single core!
don't think you will be overclocking much with that.
gimme benchmarks!
LuckyNV
11-21-2007, 03:44 AM
I think AMD want heat to be a problem with OCing rather than the CPU being the limit :rofl:
naokaji
11-21-2007, 03:56 AM
i thought that they didnt have pins on the bottom of the chip?
the last pic looks like it has tiny ones, about 2/3 mm
Amd still uses pins on their desktop cpus, they only changed the server versions to pinless design.
as for the cooler, it seems the same as the one that came with the single core k8's, they should atleast have used the one that came with the higher end x2's and FX.
@OBR pls, we want oc results:up:
Pacha
11-21-2007, 04:06 AM
who was making fun of the new intel heatsink? :D
this one looks like a K7 one :p:
Richard Dower
11-21-2007, 04:55 AM
Horrible heatsink!...70mm fan?!...eww!
BeardyMan
11-21-2007, 04:56 AM
wtf? why do they pair this with the the old heatsink?:shakes:
VulgarHandle
11-21-2007, 05:05 AM
wtf? why do they pair this with the the old heatsink?:shakes:
because it doesn't need a bigger better heatsink/fan for stock speeds....
hardrail
11-21-2007, 05:25 AM
This is Xtreme Systems.... Who here uses the stock heatsink?
SKYMTL
11-21-2007, 05:30 AM
How is this "news"?
FischOderAal
11-21-2007, 05:50 AM
How is this "news"?
maybe not "news", but interesting ;) so, why not?
hardrail
11-21-2007, 06:10 AM
It's news to me because it means people from here will start getting their hands on them and start doing some real world testing. Some good O/Cing. We might find out a little more about these chips from people on here.
RaZz!
11-21-2007, 06:13 AM
...and now put that thing in the socket and bench it to death, damnit! :D:D:)
Thallid
11-21-2007, 06:22 AM
Horrible heatsink!...70mm fan?!...eww!
I think it is a 60 mm ;)
cky2k6
11-21-2007, 06:25 AM
How is this "news"?
I kinda agree... this belongs in the amd section. but cool nevertheless, interesting how real life chips will do, not just amd pre-selected ones.
Jamesrt2004
11-21-2007, 06:37 AM
I think it is a 60 mm ;)
it's 70 :P its like exactly the same as the one on my A64 3200
This is news, because no one can see yet retail cpu ... only weird ENG samples ...
Epsilon84
11-21-2007, 06:53 AM
who was making fun of the new intel heatsink? :D
this one looks like a K7 one :p:
LOL you're right, it looks almost exactly like my XP 2500+ HSF! The memories... :up:
frankR
11-21-2007, 07:12 AM
About damn time!
Cooper
11-21-2007, 07:13 AM
http://www.overclockers.ru/images/news/2007/11/21/box_07.jpghttp://www.overclockers.ru/images/news/2007/11/21/box_08.jpg
http://www.overclockers.ru/images/news/2007/11/21/box_02.jpghttp://www.overclockers.ru/images/news/2007/11/21/box_03.jpg
Jamesrt2004
11-21-2007, 07:27 AM
nice ;)
SKYMTL
11-21-2007, 07:28 AM
Actually, there have been quite a few sites that have had the non-engineering CPUs. Other than the cooler and the packaging, there is not much different from the tray parts some of us have.
metro.cl
11-21-2007, 07:28 AM
add some benchs and OC and is decent news
how can you in czech republic get all this stuff before rest of us? :)
FischOderAal
11-21-2007, 07:56 AM
you can buy Phenoms in germany right now. but the prices are very high.
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=cpuamdam2p
I have in Czech rep. everything very very soon (mobos, cpus, gfx) ... if you know that right peoples you can get anything ...
JohnMike
11-21-2007, 08:34 AM
I have in Czech rep. everything very very soon (mobos, cpus, gfx) ... if you know that right peoples you can get anything ...
MAFIA!!... You mean, you have a godfather... :rofl:
Source:
http://www.brainbox.co.kr/review/view.asp?cmid=1&csid=1&searchcolumn=&searchstring=&page=&id=2124&detail_id=22591&from=
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SKYMTL
11-21-2007, 10:55 AM
Actually, quite a few stores have them here in Canada. I just passed by a store called Microbytes here in Montreal and they have a good half dozen in a display.
Athens[2004]
11-22-2007, 12:06 AM
MAFIA!!... You mean, you have a godfather... :rofl:
He has a quadfather.
fatredwombat1
11-22-2007, 12:49 AM
There seems to be quite a bit of stock about in Australia, not sure if it's going to fly off the shelves though ;)
Zytek_Fan
11-22-2007, 12:50 AM
Too bad Phenom sucks :(
Blasar
11-22-2007, 01:13 AM
Too bad Phenom sucks :(
Maybe with the right price, these CPU´s become attractive ;)
And when the clock speeds ramp up (new revision, etc.), MAYBE it wont be such an easy prey for INTEL :yepp:
nemrod
11-22-2007, 01:15 AM
Too bad Phenom sucks :(
:shakes: you have a nice sticker with it.
STaRGaZeR
11-22-2007, 01:22 AM
:shakes: you have a nice sticker with it.
Actually he is right. It sucks in perfomance and power consumption. And in price, at least at launch.
nemrod
11-22-2007, 01:27 AM
Actually he is right. It sucks in perfomance and power consumption. And in price, at least at launch.
You miss in AM2 real life compatibility too :shrug:
http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/40163-AMD-AM2-Phenom-BIOS-Compatibilite.htm
What we did today with a number of motherboards AM2 from Asus, Gigabyte and MSI based on chipsets from AMD, NVIDIA or VIA. In any case, the result was the same: black screen.
they said after that manufacturers works to provide bios but
In addition, it seems that all models AM2 will not be concerned. We could not know if it was a willingness of manufacturers or to a real concern technical, but some users might find themselves behind.
This is probably AMD who want sli on there motherboards :D
STaRGaZeR
11-22-2007, 01:47 AM
You can say all you want, but the fact is the perfomance is not there. BIOS, errata, steppings.. a good Phenom, when? 2020? And for compatibility... if the perfomance is bad in AM2+ mobos, what about current AM2?
Phenom sucks.
kiikkuja
11-22-2007, 03:04 AM
What if you build a phenom rig with new 790fx chipset board and put some Toyo tire stickers
on the side of the case? :yepp:
Spawne says he's proven that it will give you 15mhz of more clockspeed...what if you put enough phenom stickers too and get equal performance to intel?!?:rofl:
nemrod
11-22-2007, 03:06 AM
You can say all you want, but the fact is the perfomance is not there. BIOS, errata, steppings.. a good Phenom, when? 2020? And for compatibility... if the perfomance is bad in AM2+ mobos, what about current AM2?
Phenom sucks.
Probably my english is not enough good and you don't understand me... :shrug:
STaRGaZeR
11-22-2007, 05:45 AM
Yup I have undestand you.
And you want to understand me, or just defend a POS? I don´t really know ;) Phenom is good for me, at ~160€ 2,4Ghz part.
Starscream
11-22-2007, 05:49 AM
This is news, because no one can see yet retail cpu ... only weird ENG samples ...
Sorry but i have seen quite a few shops that had them in stock since tuesday.
The problem being that non of them shops had any AM2+ boards in stock.
i only know a handfull of shops that got AM2+ boards in stock and they only got the Gigabyte boards.
duploxxx
11-22-2007, 10:47 AM
You can say all you want, but the fact is the perfomance is not there. BIOS, errata, steppings.. a good Phenom, when? 2020? And for compatibility... if the perfomance is bad in AM2+ mobos, what about current AM2?
Phenom sucks.
if that's all you have to say then stay out of the tread and go please you' re self in the intel forums. Phenom is a good proc it only misses some maturing and a bit lower price 10-15%, you forgot the first hot kentucky's already?, the new 790 platform is one of the best at the moment, there will only be minimum performance difference between am2 and +, because ht3 has no additional advantages to exist on a 1s system, on the other hand a + board does have some nice headroom for the future and better powermanagement.. Knowing AMD there process will get better, not only steppings but also the matured 65nm.
btw get rid of that F1 fanboy spot, he sucks bigtime.
p0tter
11-22-2007, 10:59 AM
I really wish ppl would stop btching about STOCK heatsinks... no one uses them and including a better one would only drive up prices.
STaRGaZeR
11-22-2007, 11:28 AM
if that's all you have to say then stay out of the tread and go please you' re self in the intel forums. Phenom is a good proc it only misses some maturing and a bit lower price 10-15%, you forgot the first hot kentucky's already?, the new 790 platform is one of the best at the moment, there will only be minimum performance difference between am2 and +, because ht3 has no additional advantages to exist on a 1s system, on the other hand a + board does have some nice headroom for the future and better powermanagement.. Knowing AMD there process will get better, not only steppings but also the matured 65nm.
btw get rid of that F1 fanboy spot, he sucks bigtime.
As I already said, is good... at 160€ pricepoint, and for cold winter´s days. And I want a C2D killer NOW, when Phenom matures Nehalem would be here, so absolutely no need of it. I understand your frustration regarding this, but stop attacking those who are not living in a dream with Phenom being a good product, like you ;)
BTW, I don´t want to get rid of it, who the hell you think you are to tell me what avatar should I use? :shrug: :lol:
duploxxx
11-22-2007, 10:56 PM
As I already said, is good... at 160€ pricepoint, and for cold winter´s days. And I want a C2D killer NOW, when Phenom matures Nehalem would be here, so absolutely no need of it. I understand your frustration regarding this, but stop attacking those who are not living in a dream with Phenom being a good product, like you ;)
BTW, I don´t want to get rid of it, who the hell you think you are to tell me what avatar should I use? :shrug: :lol:
i think you are the one that is frustrated, for sure with you're fanboy avatar
if you want to make a comment make a decent one, not one full of rubbish
1 thread, 4 posts that have 0 added value. Idiots that believe that nehalem will arrive first for desktop. And yes hype it, why not, because for once in 6 years intel made a decent proc for desktop will they make another one?
AMD-PHENOM
11-23-2007, 12:28 AM
9500 should be in today, then we see what all the fuss is about :)
duploxxx
11-23-2007, 01:13 AM
9500 should be in today, then we see what all the fuss is about :)
fine i am waiting for some retail oc results before i buy the 5000 Black to use a few weeks or already phenom, what board will you be using?
AMD-PHENOM
11-23-2007, 01:16 AM
fine i am waiting for some retail oc results before i buy the 5000 Black to use a few weeks or already phenom, what board will you be using?
I will try first with ASUS M2N-SLi, then onto MSi 790X and finally 790FX.
Waiting for delivery now.
... my is arrived from OCUK.co.uk today too!
Athens[2004]
11-23-2007, 02:35 AM
Are u going to give us some results ? :D
testing at weekend on 790FX ...
Athens[2004]
11-23-2007, 02:42 AM
Nice@awaiting!
STaRGaZeR
11-23-2007, 03:13 AM
i think you are the one that is frustrated, for sure with you're fanboy avatar
if you want to make a comment make a decent one, not one full of rubbish
1 thread, 4 posts that have 0 added value. Idiots that believe that nehalem will arrive first for desktop. And yes hype it, why not, because for once in 6 years intel made a decent proc for desktop will they make another one?
Seriously, you´re SO desesperate? :rofl:
I don´t really care, keep using Phenom, is better for AMD. They should say thanks to fanboys like you.
Jamesrt2004
11-23-2007, 04:23 AM
testing at weekend on 790FX ...
thats ages :(
good luck though mate! hope all goes well and we find out what retail Phenom's are like
Athens[2004]
11-25-2007, 11:14 AM
any updates ?
lol i remember when i bought mine X2 4800+ from OcUK for £430 now Phenom 9500 is out for £170. What difference competition makes eh?
Still i wont buy it because if i was to buy a CPU it would have to have higher Ghz value then the current one or otherwise it does not feel like an upgrade.
This is news, because no one can see yet retail cpu ... only weird ENG samples ...It 'aint news here, I've had one for a while but no DIMMs and now that I have RAM I get BSOD on bootup with ATi card installed and only VGA mode which sucks completely. The AM2 Sapphire board I have doesn't boot with 9500 (black screen) and the MSI board gives only VGA mode so still waiting.
tbone8ty
11-25-2007, 02:48 PM
This is Xtreme Systems.... Who here uses the stock heatsink?
im using the stock amd heatsink that came with the opteron 165.
its actually pretty good. heat pipes and all.
but yur right im need a big typhoon or something and make my opty naked!
villa1n
11-25-2007, 11:13 PM
testing at weekend on 790FX ...
interested to hear how it went
:up:
duploxxx
11-26-2007, 12:58 AM
testing at weekend on 790FX ...
OBR update?
i saw you posting in a different thread that it was not going that well....
today will be some OC and performance report ...
OBR do you have the MSI 790FX board you can test? I'd like to see if it's just mine which is failing bootup with the X4 9500.
I cant to overclock it higher then 2450MHz ... system freezes ... if i set FSB highrer then 220 no post no boot ... i have last bios F2L ...
v0dka
11-26-2007, 10:32 AM
I cant to overclock it higher then 2450MHz ... system freezes ... if i set FSB highrer then 220 no post no boot ... i have last bios F2L ...
At what voltage?
with Phenom voltage options are descreased ... only 0.1V + to CPU, i tested every voltage options in BIOS and mobo is not stable with stable FSB then 220, is not stable even i lower multi of cpu - that is strange, i am sure this is a memory related issue ...
informal
11-26-2007, 11:32 AM
with Phenom voltage options are descreased ... only 0.1V + to CPU, i tested every voltage options in BIOS and mobo is not stable with stable FSB then 220, is not stable even i lower multi of cpu - that is strange, i am sure this is a memory related issue ...
If HTT it is not stable@220Mhz even after you lower CPU multi to below 11,it for sure is not the CPU.It could be flaky BIOS(issues with memory dividers).BIOS support for Phenom is terrible at the moment :(
Yeah I have BIOS issues too. Many of the options changed in BIOS don't make a difference in Windows. :(
370$ for a 9500 where i live. So it seems its on par with the Q6600 in terms of pricing. Only a mere 10$ difference, in favor of the 9500. Not quite attractive just yet i must say. Maybe a 20-40$ cut would be a better start for it.