Intel may be trying to officially support SLI on ther mobo's?

[Talonman]

Intel may be trying to officially support SLI on ther mobo's?

Trivia:

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7050.html

"Several sources have claimed that Intel wants GeForce SLI for desktop chipsets, NVIDIA isn't giving it to them and in return Intel is not giving them complete Yorkfield specs. Perhaps a bit childish, but certainly a powerful move".

If this is true, mabey Nvidia will have to let SLI be supported now on Intel mobo's like the Maximus?

I don't think I will use SLI, but it would be nice to know it is officially supported anyway. ;)

[dinos22]

intel is shooting themselves in the foot as well not giving nvidia full yorkfield specs :rolleyes: if that really is true :shrug:

[cnumartyr]

Poor move on Intels part.. going to aggrevate a lot of people..

I'd like to see SLI support on all chipsets. Maybe it's just me, I hate the days of chosing a chipset based on what cards you want to run. I'd rather choose what works best for me. I like Intel chipsets.. I use ATI cards.

[screwtech02]

Turnabout IS fairplay.....:cool:

[turtletrax]

I am amazed that everyone is surprised that Intel would do this. This is David vs. Goliath, but this time around Goliath is a mechwarrior and David is still the sheep herder.

Intel will do what it thinks it can get away with, period.

[Blauhung]

While it is possible that Intel is doing this out of spite, I still think that it is also possible that it might be leaked misinformation on Nvidia's part to try and stir up some commotion.

[ElEctric_EyE]

Yes, maybe Intel will start in on Video cards, maybe they already have. Bad move for Intel? I think it's a waste of resources for nvidia to try to compete in the arena of motherboards. I can see a future with Intel MB's and Nvidia Quad SLI Graphics cards vs. AMD MB's and ATI Quad SLI Graphics cards. Is this too much to hope for in the next 30 years?

[S1mon-]

I would so like to do 8800GT SLI on my Maximus :P

[jarthel]

intel is shooting themselves in the foot as well not giving nvidia full yorkfield specs :rolleyes: if that really is true :shrug:

how? I suppose most new and recent intel platform are still using intel's own chipsets. so there nothing to lose? it's not like nvidia has a large share of the intel cpu chipset market.

[ElEctric_EyE]

We ain't the only two!

[S1mon-]

We ain't the only two!

I'm pretty sure it would make nVidia card and Intel board sales go up, but the nVidia board would most likely stop selling...

[turtletrax]

While it is possible that Intel is doing this out of spite, I still think that it is also possible that it might be leaked misinformation on Nvidia's part to try and stir up some commotion.

Now that would be ballsy :eek:

[ElEctric_EyE]

I'm pretty sure it would make nVidia card and Intel board sales go up, but the nVidia board would most likely stop selling...

Yes, consider it an early venture (just dreaming) on nvidia's part. Intel (translate Intel's &nvidia's customer's) would be paying for support for all of nvidia's board's currently on the market, no new production, by buying an intel MB, supported by nvidia's blessing on SLI. Now who would pay for that? 300+? 400+? even if spec's were guaranteed to be better than nvidia's current SLI... The possibilities if the two joined forces would be indominatable for a few years at least

[vpw]

If that's true, im so getting the new GTX when its released and another one 6 mths after...

[nr2134]

intel is shooting themselves in the foot as well not giving nvidia full yorkfield specs :rolleyes: if that really is true :shrug:

I dont see how..... Nvidia deserves it IMO. Nvidia needs Intel more than Intel needs Nvidia and everyone knows it. With Intel making their own chipsets and AMD making their own through ATI I honestly think Nvidia should stop trying to make (at least for Intel CPU's)chipsets and concentrate on things they are good at. And if I was Intel I would do this every time a new stepping was released. Make Nvidia work for it.

[metro.cl]

While it is possible that Intel is doing this out of spite, I still think that it is also possible that it might be leaked misinformation on Nvidia's part to try and stir up some commotion.

it is not true, i've asked some partners, answer is nf680i will support penryn CPUs but you wont get a good veorclock on them, because "is an old chipset with a new cpu".

NF 780i will have full support and OC

[Planet]

That line seems familiar. Kinda sounds like it was taken out of Hipros thread. For any of those that missed it. York is working fine on the next gen nvidia chipset. 450fsb with a beta bios/board.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=166247

[xlink]

the real winners here are AMD/ATi

[dinos22]

it is not true, i've asked some partners, answer is nf680i will support penryn CPUs but you wont get a good veorclock on them, because "is an old chipset with a new cpu".

NF 780i will have full support and OC

aren't they pretty similar chipsets :p

[metro.cl]

aren't they pretty similar chipsets :p

yes so that makes me wonder if there is really some technical "problem" or is just like nvidia wont put a lot of work into BIOS tunning.

[dinos22]

yes so that makes me wonder if there is really some technical "problem" or is just like nvidia wont put a lot of work into BIOS tunning.

i will now counter argue my point LOL
original and new D00/A1 revision 680i boards were very different OCers of quad core CPUs ;) :D

[Zytek_Fan]

I'd love to see SLI on Intel chipsets, but that isn't going to happen :(
Despite the outcry about how awful NVIDIA chipsets have been :(

[dinos22]

I'd love to see SLI on Intel chipsets, but that isn't going to happen :(
Despite the outcry about how awful NVIDIA chipsets have been :(

no faith in improved chipset??? :shrug:

[Zytek_Fan]

no faith in improved chipset??? :shrug:

The short cut PCIe 2.0 for 780i is disappointing. So is the OMGBBQ heatsink on the northbridge ON THE REFERENCE BOARD.

If 790i is impressing, and it's available by March, then I'll consider it.

[saaya]

Intel may be trying to officially support SLI on ther mobo's?

Trivia:

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7050.html

"Several sources have claimed that Intel wants GeForce SLI for desktop chipsets, NVIDIA isn't giving it to them and in return Intel is not giving them complete Yorkfield specs. Perhaps a bit childish, but certainly a powerful move".

If this is true, mabey Nvidia will have to let SLI be supported now on Intel mobo's like the Maximus?

I don't think I will use SLI, but it would be nice to know it is officially supported anyway. ;)

nope, this wont help, all intel can do is delay 45nm support but they cant stop nvidia from supporting it ;)
if they would then intel would get into serious trouble with market regulation authorities as it would be the only supplier of chipsets for its cpus pretty much.

that doesnt mean intel wont do it though, they already have a monopoly and nobody is really doing anything against it, so why not try and get one or two more :P

[hipro5]

Guys just THINK a bit...... :)
WHAT is that ALL companies want?......MONEY......OK....INTEL is making new chipsets (P35/X38) to make more money and sell.......
Do you think that NVIDIA will "stay" on i680 chipset?.....NO.....They WANT to make money as well, so they must make a newer chipset as well.....and there you go......i780 (re-making) for "supporting" Yorks..... ;)
Do you think that they whould "stuck" on i680 one when Intel/AMD are making newer chipsets and they making more money by selling them?....
WHAT will be the "gain" of NVIDIA IF they "support" Yorks on their (cruppy) i680 chipset?......NONE.......SO newer chipset = newer incomes.... ;) :)
I - personally - don't think that we will see a SLI support on Intel chipsets anytime soon.... :( .....We may see Intel doing SLI BUT only with added chipsets by NVIDIA onboard (more latencies of caurse :( )....

[Brother Esau]

Intel still needs to be B**tch Slapped

[PRJ]

Good thing that Intel is trying to get a official SLi support, thats what we all want, maybe with the exeption of nvidia.:up:

It might be a childish way, but the blame is all nvidias own. Its crazy that nvidia is blocking support for theyere own hardware and they cant expect custemors to buy theyer poor motherboards to get SLi.

I will go with Intel on this one and just have to settle for one graphic card.

Nvidia love your graphic cards, but give up the motherboards and if you want more of our money, give Intel SLi support, then we would love to to buy a graphic cards more.

PRJ

[saaya]

prj, how is it crazy?
how about intel giving via a hard time to make intel chipsets?
how about intel buying havoc which means their physics engine for amd and nvidia gpus is pretty much canned?
how about intel not letting amd to use their socket/boards back in the days?

and now about a different company as example.
how about apple forcing you to buy their hardware to run their software?
how about apple forcing you to use itunes when you want to use an ipod?

its the same thing, and as hipro said, they want to make money...

[strange|ife]

it would be nice too see SLI cross platform, instead of diffrent camps like now. Perhaps the delay of x48, and the upcoming p45 will support it:rolleyes:

OR intel goes off does its own graphics powerhorse, been rumours

[Shintai]

For the nTh time. No Intel aint doing anything bad to nVidia. Rather nVidia doing it to NVidia. Its simply just nVidia that either messed up with too much performance enhancing. Or simply just dont have a BIOS ready for all their reference boards.

Period.

[[XC]Atomicpineapple]

I wish Intel did that. If only nVidia would realise how many more GFX cards they'd sell if SLi wasnt platform dependent, and I'm fairly sure theres profit in a GFX chip than a motherboard chipset .

As my sig shows I have a dual clovertown setup and an 8800GTS. If I could support it I'd have looked into finding a 2nd GTS to put in SLi now, but I cant and I'm damned if Im changing this setup for the sake of a 2nd GFX card, result, nvidia doesnt get a chipset or 2nd GFX sale from me.

[Fr3ak]

I can already see the day when we have to buy Nvidia video cards, CPU and mainboard, or Intel mainboard, CPU and video cards or AMD only components. Maybe they start to produce memory, PSU and harddrives too. Then we wouldnt have to bother about buying different componets and build the PC by ourselves haha

Seems like the days we could either put an Intel or AMD CPU into the same mainboard socket are finally over. It is getting worse every year :/

[dinos22]

I can already see the day when we have to buy Nvidia video cards, CPU and mainboard, or Intel mainboard, CPU and video cards or AMD only components. Maybe they start to produce memory, PSU and harddrives too. Then we wouldnt have to bother about buying different componets and build the PC by ourselves haha

Seems like the days we could either put an Intel or AMD CPU into the same mainboard socket are finally over. It is getting worse every year :/

don't laugh too hard :(

[Fr3ak]

I know it's not funny. For AMD/Ati that scenario is already true. If Nvidia is really developing a CPU, then that might really happen. Larabee is for real....

[saaya]

why do you guys think nvidia would sell more gfx cards if they would allow sli on intel boards? thats not true, do you know how few people use sli and xfire? according to valves hardware report its just a few percent...
they would sell maybe a tiny bit more but thats it...

people who want sli buy 2 cards and.. an nvidia based board.
people who dont need or want sli buy an intel based board.

if nvidia would allow sli on intel chipsets then they would sell a few extra gfx cards and would only sell 10% as many chipsets as they do now.
and you all know how much money they make with their chipsets... they are tiny and cheap to make but they sell them for quite a premium...

and its only nvidia that does this, not amd afaik.
xfire works on amd chipsets and intel chipsets, and afaik it actually works on any chipset, even uli, sis and via as long as there are 2 slots you can plug videocards in as that is all you really need hardware wise.

whats actually surprising is that amd allows intel to run xfire and doesnt limit it to their plattform. if they would, then intel would be DEAD in the high end immediatly as k10 plus xfire would kill intel plus single card...

but the sad thing is nobody sees this... nobody salutes amd/ati for making xfire possible on intel mainboards, instead people only complain and complain and want more and more :P

[JohnMike]

why do you guys think nvidia would sell more gfx cards if they would allow sli on intel boards? thats not true, do you know how few people use sli and xfire? according to valves hardware report its just a few percent...
they would sell maybe a tiny bit more but thats it...

people who want sli buy 2 cards and.. an nvidia based board.
people who dont need or want sli buy an intel based board.

if nvidia would allow sli on intel chipsets then they would sell a few extra gfx cards and would only sell 10% as many chipsets as they do now.
and you all know how much money they make with their chipsets... they are tiny and cheap to make but they sell them for quite a premium...

and its only nvidia that does this, not amd afaik.
xfire works on amd chipsets and intel chipsets, and afaik it actually works on any chipset, even uli, sis and via as long as there are 2 slots you can plug videocards in as that is all you really need hardware wise.

whats actually surprising is that amd allows intel to run xfire and doesnt limit it to their plattform. if they would, then intel would be DEAD in the high end immediatly as k10 plus xfire would kill intel plus single card...

but the sad thing is nobody sees this... nobody salutes amd/ati for making xfire possible on intel mainboards, instead people only complain and complain and want more and more :P

I agree with you, but i think if nVidia mess up again with their board chipsets (probability they will) there will be ruff times for them.

It's most because right now AMD has a big spread of the market with there open CF to run on every platform, nVidia has only there SLI platform, it's small, limited and not so enthusiast because there chipsets aren't great in OC performance and stability.

So nVidia chances are very small and limited, there's only two paths i believe in the near future, they hit great with there new chipsets (780i & 790i) or they have to open them selfs to the trend of the market, witch is open multi-Gpus platforms, at least until we Fusion see the light of day.

They cant keep there back on the consumers to long...

[Rattle]

why do you guys think nvidia would sell more gfx cards if they would allow sli on intel boards? thats not true, do you know how few people use sli and xfire? according to valves hardware report its just a few percent...
they would sell maybe a tiny bit more but thats it...

people who want sli buy 2 cards and.. an nvidia based board.
people who dont need or want sli buy an intel based board.

if nvidia would allow sli on intel chipsets then they would sell a few extra gfx cards and would only sell 10% as many chipsets as they do now.
and you all know how much money they make with their chipsets... they are tiny and cheap to make but they sell them for quite a premium...

and its only nvidia that does this, not amd afaik.
xfire works on amd chipsets and intel chipsets, and afaik it actually works on any chipset, even uli, sis and via as long as there are 2 slots you can plug videocards in as that is all you really need hardware wise.

whats actually surprising is that amd allows intel to run xfire and doesnt limit it to their plattform. if they would, then intel would be DEAD in the high end immediatly as k10 plus xfire would kill intel plus single card...

but the sad thing is nobody sees this... nobody salutes amd/ati for making xfire possible on intel mainboards, instead people only complain and complain and want more and more :P

you cant go buy valves hardware report, in vista or XP it doesnt even detect SLI on my system LOL

amd had nothing to do with it, ati was an open platform x-fire on the 975x before amd had anything to do with them

[BulldogPO]

nVidia should be selling much more GPU´s if they would allow SLI on other shipsets, I personally wont touch any nvidia motherboard chipset never again.

[safan80]

if anyone needs a b**ch slap it's Nvidia. It's been a year and the fastest single gfx card is still the G80. The only way to keep them in check is for Nvidia to have to fight a two front war. things could get bad. What if nvidia became big enough to buy out intel? it would end up being Nvidia/intel vs AMD/ATI and we would lose by having to pay a lot higher prices.

I like Nvidia as a graphics card company not as a motherboard making one.

[saaya]

you cant go buy valves hardware report, in vista or XP it doesnt even detect SLI on my system LOL
did you even look at the results?
in case your too lazy to google heres a link :P
http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html

so lets say all 15% who use vista run sli... it would still not make sense to bring sli to another plattform for nvidia. As soon as 30% of the customers run sli they might consider it i guess... for a license... but atm they dont have any reason to do this but make their customers happier. the same customeers that will forget who nvidia is as soon as somebody else offers the same performance for 50$ less... :D


amd had nothing to do with it, ati was an open platform x-fire on the 975x before amd had anything to do with themexactly, but i suspected that when amd bought ati they would no longer support xfire on intel plattforms. but they still do.
Now you can complain about amd all you want, and everybody knows i do :D, but allowing xfire on the plattforms of a company thats trying to kill them quite says a lot about how dedicated they are to their customers.

and my point was, who actually realized this?
nobody! are ati/amd videocard users even thankfull for it? no!
so that perfectly proves nvidias point not to fullfill their customers wishes to run sli on intel plattforms, because nobody will actually give them any credit for it. people will only say "its about time" and turn their backs on nvidias as soon as they find another card that costs slightly less or scores 2fps more in some game ;)

and why would nvidia release a new card if their current ones are still the fastest around? now amd is beating them so they will release a new card... its as easy as that... :D

i HATE the 680 chipset, and im really mad at nvidia for locking sli to it, but they have every right to do so.

[JohnMike]

did you even look at the results?
in case your too lazy to google heres a link :P
http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html

so lets say all 15% who use vista run sli... it would still not make sense to bring sli to another plattform for nvidia. As soon as 30% of the customers run sli they might consider it i guess... for a license... but atm they dont have any reason to do this but make their customers happier. the same customeers that will forget who nvidia is as soon as somebody else offers the same performance for 50$ less... :D

exactly, but i suspected that when amd bought ati they would no longer support xfire on intel plattforms. but they still do.
Now you can complain about amd all you want, and everybody knows i do :D, but allowing xfire on the plattforms of a company thats trying to kill them quite says a lot about how dedicated they are to their customers.

and my point was, who actually realized this?
nobody! are ati/amd videocard users even thankfull for it? no!
so that perfectly proves nvidias point not to fullfill their customers wishes to run sli on intel plattforms, because nobody will actually give them any credit for it. people will only say "its about time" and turn their backs on nvidias as soon as they find another card that costs slightly less or scores 2fps more in some game ;)

and why would nvidia release a new card if their current ones are still the fastest around? now amd is beating them so they will release a new card... its as easy as that... :D

i HATE the 680 chipset, and im really mad at nvidia for locking sli to it, but they have every right to do so.

I follow and invest on stock market and one of the things that you learn from the market, as every thing in life, you have to follow the trend... You don't want to be against the trend because it's only a matter of time until you will be eaten by the market.

Is nVidia running against the trend?!... I don't know. Hope not... But these days seems like they are walking alone between two front's at war (Intel vs AMD).

Like i say before, in my opinion the key are there new chipsets... If they fail, they better have a good plan B because nowadays and in the near future being as the "Queen" of graphics cards wont be enough for to long.

[G80]

I dont see how Nvidia would be willing to hurt their own motherboard sales. Remember Nvidia is holding onto a hardware exclusive and that generates money. I like Intel chipset and i would like to see SLI properly supported but that just how business works out.

[crash5s]

I hope this is true. After being burned by 680i I have no faith in nvidia. Sadly dual video cards are a must for native resolutions on my displays. However even if nvidia's offerings are demolishing ATi's, if I'm stuck with nforce as a platform I'm going to end up purchasing 2 ATi cards next time around.

For me it's simply. I'll buy the best dual GPU solution on an intel platform. If nvidia isn't going to let them run SLI then by default it's ATi.

[PRJ]

prj, how is it crazy?
how about intel giving via a hard time to make intel chipsets?
how about intel buying havoc which means their physics engine for amd and nvidia gpus is pretty much canned?
how about intel not letting amd to use their socket/boards back in the days?

and now about a different company as example.
how about apple forcing you to buy their hardware to run their software?
how about apple forcing you to use itunes when you want to use an ipod?

its the same thing, and as hipro said, they want to make money...

Hi

I can't comment on those scenarios, since I don't know anything about them.

But in this case, I think Nvidia is creating another pattent problem and Intel just reminden them, that hardware support & flexibility is a two way street.

PRJ

[stealthbomber]

ATI 3870 X2 (two GPU cores on one card) should solve your problem?

[happychappy]

ATI 3870 X2 (two GPU cores on one card) should solve your problem?

No,its going to be expensive and a GTX will perform better most probably

[Eddie3dfx]

This is a great move on intels part if you think about it.
This will basically cripple the nvidia chipsets and nvidia knows it.
It will lead to intel sli licensing and then users will be able to go sli on intel motherboards..
I mean for us it's a win win situation, especially after the garbage that was put out in the evga 680i motherboard.
If there was a lemon law for computer parts, evga would of discontinued that crap along time ago.
karl rove must be working for their marketing campaign

[DangeR!]

If nvidia wont let intel suport SLI then why the hell should intel let nvidia suport there cpu fully?

If nvidia produced a decent chip for intel, they wouldn't be holding back SLI suport IMO.

[Brother Esau]

All of these lines drawn and such Greed and Arrogance being Exhibited I see bad things on the way!

[G80]

If nvidia wont let intel suport SLI then why the hell should intel let nvidia suport there cpu fully?

If nvidia produced a decent chip for intel, they wouldn't be holding back SLI suport IMO.

Its not the same thing. SLI is nowhere near as Vital as a CPU is. Its a performance product with a microscopic user base.

[metro.cl]

I think many people here just dont read.

Also NVIDIA is in a great position in the market right now, you just need to see how.

[DeathReborn]

If nvidia wont let intel suport SLI then why the hell should intel let nvidia suport there cpu fully?

If nvidia produced a decent chip for intel, they wouldn't be holding back SLI suport IMO.

Intel could get into trouble if it creates a more obvious monopoly or gives out false information.

I do want to see SLi on all chipsets but not by strongarm tactics by Intel so I hope Intel get caught with their trousers down.

[Shaggy]

It is a brilliant and fair move. How is intel at fault for doing EXACTLY what nvidia is doing.

If you don't buy a nvidia chipset, then you will be buying a intel chipset. There is no other alternative (other than AMD, but anyone who is still buying amd is a fanboy and wouldn't buy intel anyway). So by letting nvidia make chipsets they are losing money. In order to even it out Nvidia should give up its SLI tech to intel so everyone increases their profits. Intel is saying if nvidia wants to hog all the profits then their just won't be any profits.

[JohnMike]

I think many people here just dont read.

Also NVIDIA is in a great position in the market right now, you just need to see how.

Great position in enthusiasts graphics market... Yes sure, no dot about that.

But what about chipsets market?!..

The best CPU and chipsets on the market belongs to Intel, nVidia is leader at graphics market, but we can't join them together for a high-end system with high resolution graphics, AMD started to get that approach... Do you think AMD is going to fight nVidia?!... I don't think so... AMD main competitor is Intel, not nVidia and the competition is going to be harder once they (Intel & AMD) get to 2009.

The numbers that we see on the market today leadership belong to decisions made in the past, not today. Today decisions will be showed by numbers in the future.

Hope the best for nVidia...

[hipro5]

Heh, heh, heh,....... BEST will be IF INTEL STOPS support NVIDIA VGAs in general...... I mean when the chipset "sees" an NVIDIA VGA, not to power up......
THEN I'll tell you how NVIDIA will licenses SLI CHEEP to Intel....... :D :p:

[DeathReborn]

Heh, heh, heh,....... BEST will be IF INTEL STOPS support NVIDIA VGAs in general...... I mean when the chipset "sees" an NVIDIA VGA, not to power up......
THEN I'll tell you how NVIDIA will licenses SLI CHEEP to Intel....... :D :p:

I can see it now, SiS chipset sales shoot through the roof... I do wonder if their Xeon Licence they recently got hold of covers 45nm or not, if so then they would have almost all the information they'd need.

[jarthel]

intel is shooting themselves in the foot as well not giving nvidia full yorkfield specs :rolleyes: if that really is true :shrug:

care to explain? thank you

[dinos22]

simple
no sales

[Decami]

This would be an awesome option though. Randomly having a choice of SLI on some of the best OCing boards would be a plus.

[jarthel]

simple
no sales

no sales of what? nvidia boards?

but why is intel shooting their foot by demanding SLI? it's not like nvidia has a major share in the intel chipset market.

[bing]

GPU is useless without CPU, the rest is of the discussion is pretty obvious and utterly simple.

[metro.cl]

Great position in enthusiasts graphics market... Yes sure, no dot about that.

But what about chipsets market?!..

The best CPU and chipsets on the market belongs to Intel, nVidia is leader at graphics market, but we can't join them together for a high-end system with high resolution graphics, AMD started to get that approach... Do you think AMD is going to fight nVidia?!... I don't think so... AMD main competitor is Intel, not nVidia and the competition is going to be harder once they (Intel & AMD) get to 2009.

The numbers that we see on the market today leadership belong to decisions made in the past, not today. Today decisions will be showed by numbers in the future.

Hope the best for nVidia...

Chipset market will have its own boost by NVIDIA, you are just thinking from a Xtremesystem user point of view, SLI and X-fire is really small amount of the market and if you add Overclock into that it gets even smaller.

Now add mobile chipset market and tell me that Intel is great there, they dont have such a competitive solution there and the market is going in that direction, Hybrid SLI.

For the average Joe, NVIDIA has a decent chipset and they can get all the power they want QX9770 + 3xUltras.

[dinos22]

no sales of what? nvidia boards?

but why is intel shooting their foot by demanding SLI? it's not like nvidia has a major share in the intel chipset market.

people that have the platform would upgrade CPUs. Well those upgrades would be delayed if this is the case.....hence no sales

I am not arguing whether it's a good or bad thing but there are a lot of nvidia boards out there and many users find CPU changes to be a lot easiler than motherboards hence why they are shooting themselves in the foot

Some users may also decide to upgrade to newer chipsets and use their old CPUs until resolved hence delayed earnings....shots fired again :D

Some users may switch to phenoms as it's all too difficult with Intel ATM as nvidia have the 780a variation as well >> do i hear shots fired again :D:D:D

[saaya]

No,its going to be expensive and a GTX will perform better most probably
lol, what? a single 3870 oced on air scores about the same as a gtx already :P

as hipro said its all about money.
nvidia would lose money if theyd allow sli on other chipsets... so why should they do it? the only way they will is if they make the same or more money by doing this. so its not like some of you suggested, that nvidia is just beeing an 4ss. they want something in return from intel, money. money that intel has shtloads of, but they dont want to pay :D

i honestly hope intel didnt try to bully nvidia into supporting sli as it wont work, ill only hurt the users. i dont get why intel doesnt buy a license and then just puts that license on top of the price for each board they sell that works with sli. so users can decide themselves if they want sli on intel or not and how much its worth to them.

just enable sli on x48 for example, so x48 boards cost 50$ more and thats the license nvidia gets compensating them for not selling a 680 board...

[crash5s]

people that have the platform would upgrade CPUs. Well those upgrades would be delayed if this is the case.....hence no sales

I am not arguing whether it's a good or bad thing but there are a lot of nvidia boards out there and many users find CPU changes to be a lot easiler than motherboards hence why they are shooting themselves in the foot

Some users may also decide to upgrade to newer chipsets and use their old CPUs until resolved hence delayed earnings....shots fired again :D

Some users may switch to phenoms as it's all too difficult with Intel ATM as nvidia have the 780a variation as well >> do i hear shots fired again :D:D:D

I've got 680i and plan on ditching nvidia for ati's inferior parts as soon as the 45nm parts hit for an intel part because I'm through with nvidia chipsets.

This is more a nasty feeling from using nvidia's nferior platform.

If SLI was on an intel platform nvidia could get two more sales from me, as it is they won't.

This is the perfect excuse to finally ditch nvidia as a platform for me.

As for phenom, when it's competitive at the upper end I'll consider it, till then it's intel or bust for me.

[dinos22]

I hear you man but that's a reality that won't happen unless some radical things occur

now i don't know if you guys realise but 680i was a massive improvement over previous gen. They definitely improve their chipsets a lot so i wouldn't worry about nvidia having a monster chipset for DDR3 ;) and i can't wait to get my hand on them and (fingers crossed) they listen to advice they got from me and a few others regarding next gen boards for extreme overclockers ;) :D

Nvidia are all ears to improve their boards believe me ;) :D

i would love to have a choice myself and pick the best peforming board/chipset for SLI too but it isn't happening yet

[NH|Delph1]

it is not true, i've asked some partners, answer is nf680i will support penryn CPUs but you wont get a good veorclock on them, because "is an old chipset with a new cpu".

NF 780i will have full support and OC

Yepp, and I've posted updates saying this since the report in the first post. This thread should be locked. The problem is that 680i is stoneage, 780i will be better.

Intel is still annoyed with NVIDIA though.

EDIT:
Well, maybe not locked ... Intel does want SLI on its desktop chipset, but that's like two year old news ;)

//Andreas

[metro.cl]

Yepp, and I've posted updates saying this since the report in the first post. This thread should be locked. The problem is that 680i is stoneage, 780i will be better.

Intel is still annoyed with NVIDIA though.

EDIT:
Well, maybe not locked ... Intel does want SLI on its desktop chipset, but that's like two year old news ;)

//Andreas

:D ;)