DFI Blood Iron overclocking issues...

[Nate P.]

Hi guys,

I just got a new DFI Blood Iron. I'm running a E4300 CPU. Here's my problem: I can get into the BIOS and change the multi from the stock 9x to 6x. I save, and it restarts like usual. Then I try to up the FSB to a bit, even like 1MHz, and it won't POST, no matter what.

Help?:shrug:

[adamsleath]

wot about 7x8x multi?? you tried them yet?
got the latest bios??:shrug:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=164596&highlight=dfi+blood+iron

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=155464&highlight=dfi+blood+iron

[Nate P.]

wot about 7x8x multi?? you tried them yet?
got the latest bios??:shrug:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=164596&highlight=dfi+blood+iron

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=155464&highlight=dfi+blood+iron
Yep, tried both 8x and 7x, same thing happens...

I'm running the stock BIOS that it shipped with, and it seems to be compatible with my E4300, I mean it recognizes it correctly and everything... should I still update it?

[adamsleath]

wish i had experience with that board dude...but i dont...but im thinking it may just be a setting in the bios that is preventing the different multi from working.

what about stock multi of 9x...and increase fsb....

i know my 4300 is fsb limited to about 375...
im running mine at 333x9 at the moment :shrug:

it is usually a good idea to get the latest bios, however it may not solve your problem...hope someone else can help you.

[Nate P.]

9x is the same as the 6,7 and 8x multi's... can't even overclock 1MHz!

[adamsleath]

wot about 2 mhz?...:hehe::rofl:

sounds pretty wierd to me.
have you tried a hammer yet?:lol:

[Nate P.]

wot about 2 mhz?...:hehe::rofl:

sounds pretty wierd to me.
have you tried a hammer yet?:lol:
Absolutely no overclock... Sucks ass... do ya think a BIOS update would fix it?

[adamsleath]

maybe...worth a try dfi boards can be more difficult to 'tune' than others...
maybe voltage tweaking will help...

i know with my pos asus 939 board the stock bios would hardly even boot at default settings...but once i loaded the latest bios it came to life...so wot have you got to lose?

i ALWAYS get updated bios these days as i have found the earlier bioses (with ASUS mobos anyway) to be pretty crappy.

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Download/bios_download_us.jsp?PRODUCT_ID=5495&CATEGORY_TYPE=LP&STATUS_FLAG=A&SITE=US

[breakfromyou]

I'm having the same problem with my DFI LP P35-T2R with an E4500...i got it to boot into windows at 3.6 (on air, super unstable), but it doesn't like the multiplier changing. Itll boot at anything * 11, < 260 * 10, and 400*9 ONLY. Very strange. Update the BIOS.

It HAS to be a BIOS issue, as booting up at stock works fine, and using clockgen up to 3 GHz (1.4v set in BIOS) works just fine, until i get to 3.1 GHz, then it crashes. It still clocks worse than this E2140 :D

It throws the C1 and the occasional 8.8. Errors at me while trying to clock it up mildly. I hate it so much, i'm giving it to my 17 year old sister.

[chekk]

Unless you changed it, the memory voltage is likely set at 1.8V.
Mine was and made the system unstable until I upped the voltage.
I like this board better than my P5K for tweakability, but it is slightly less stable when overclocked.
Just for reference, my E6750 runs quite stable on this board at
485x8.

[Nate P.]

Unless you changed it, the memory voltage is likely set at 1.8V.
Mine was and made the system unstable until I upped the voltage.
I like this board better than my P5K for tweakability, but it is slightly less stable when overclocked.
Just for reference, my E6750 runs quite stable on this board at
485x8.
Yeah, I changed the voltage to 2.1V, it was at 1.8V stock. I also updated the BIOS, but I haven't ried it out yet. I'll report back, see if it fixed anything.:up:

[Nate P.]

Alright, more problems...

I overclocked too high and I was forced to clear the CMOS. Upon rebooting the system, I can no longer get into the BIOS. I hold Delete down like I normally do, but it doesn't seem to do anything. The system goes on to boot into Windows.

I then cleared the CMOS a number of times, and took the CMOS battery out for 30min., but to no avail... I still can't get into the BIOS.

Help? I have no idea why this happened.

[Nate P.]

OK, for some odd reason I got into the BIOS once! But only once... I tried a few times after and it wouldn't go...

And the results:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/natephillips/occt.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/natephillips/cpuz.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/natephillips/cpu2.jpg

This doesn't really show the potential of this board. I could have gone a lot higher, but I couldn't get back into the BIOS...

[adamsleath]

mmm if it was me i'd flash bios again...dont know which one tho.

or get the hammer...:hehe:

so youve cleared the cmos...which means you are back to stock settings again?

[chekk]

I've seen some odd behavior with this board, but have always been able to get into the bios.
I would try taking out the battery again and clearing the CMOS. Leave the board completely unhooked from power for an hour (battery out and jumper set to clear). I was able to recover that way once when I thought the board had fried itself and wouldn't even POST.
Just in case you have been, don't tweak a whole bunch of settings at once. It sounds a bit odd, I know, but I've definitely found the T2RL to be temperamental.
Once you've gotten back into the bios, load the optimized defaults and up the mem voltage. Don't mess with the memory timings just yet.
Save and reboot.
If that's all good, crank the fsb, adjusting voltages as necessary, but still leave the memory timings alone. Once you've gotten the fsb you want, start changing other settings.
The board seems to react better to gradual increments in changes to settings.
I hope this helps.

C.

[Nate P.]

Thanks for the recommendations! You guys are awesome. I'll try what you said, chekk, and I'll report back... I love this board, but if only it didn't have an attitude...:rofl:

[fred09]

I've seen some odd behavior with this board, but have always been able to get into the bios.
I would try taking out the battery again and clearing the CMOS. Leave the board completely unhooked from power for an hour (battery out and jumper set to clear). I was able to recover that way once when I thought the board had fried itself and wouldn't even POST.
Just in case you have been, don't tweak a whole bunch of settings at once. It sounds a bit odd, I know, but I've definitely found the T2RL to be temperamental.
Once you've gotten back into the bios, load the optimized defaults and up the mem voltage. Don't mess with the memory timings just yet.
Save and reboot.
If that's all good, crank the fsb, adjusting voltages as necessary, but still leave the memory timings alone. Once you've gotten the fsb you want, start changing other settings.
The board seems to react better to gradual increments in changes to settings.
I hope this helps.

C.

Hmm nice advice.. i would give it a try since mine seems temperamental too :D or is it all the bloodiron like that?Thanks anw

[onelivestarfish]

This board just needs the proper tweaking of voltage settings to get it up and running smoothly. I have reached 528FSB 8hrs+ Orthos stable with an E6600 and a 6x multi. I have experienced a few issues with the multi myself, however, I am attributing that to FSB holes due to the FSB/mem strap.

[elfy]

when my GB dq6 craps out sometimes the mobo doesn't like my keyboard, if i switch it to another usb port it works fine again, so try switching it and see if you can get into bios then

[Nate P.]

OK, so a lot has happened since I last posted in this thread. I have gotten 3.33GHz (370x9) stable with my E4300 at 1.47V, the maximum volts I feel comfortable using with my current cooling setup. Anything more (even 380x9) it will fail Prime 95 (v25.5) within the first 5 minutes. The RAM was at the 333:667 divider, by the way.

So I decided to drop the multiplier down to 8x to see if my RAM or the motherboard itself was holding me up. Since the CPU was known to run 3.33GHz just fine, I bumped the FSB up to 400. At this point the RAM was running at 800MHz, what it is rated to do, and the CPU was at 3.2GHz. The computer booted up fine and it successfully passed 20 minutes of Prime95. I decided to bring the FSB up to 410. RAM was now at 820MHz, not an insane overclock, and I think we all agree that the RAM (which is running Micron D9 IC's mind you) can overclock 20Mhz.

No POST.

I reset the CMOS jumper and put all settings back at their previous settings, except the FSB. I put the FSB at 401MHz (CPU at .~3.2GHz, RAM at 802MHz).

No POST, yet again.

What am I doing wrong here? Not even 1MHz over 400FSB... I think that is pretty strange. Help?

[adamsleath]

I have gotten 3.33GHz (370x9)

i'd be happy with this if i were you :)

my cpu is fsb limited to about 360-370 as perhaps yours is aswell...just a thought.
[i got mine to 3.4 @ 380x9...and i thought it would hold...but it didnt]
i upped the cpu volts to 1.55v - didnt help anything past about 1.4-1.45v was a waste of time for me
i upped the nb volts...but that wasnt the problem in my case.

my p5k can do 500 fsb no worries (as ive tested it with an e6850 at 500x7.) so id say it's just your cpu fsb limit...but if not that then maybe the board just doesnt like that fsb (400/401) with that cpu.

I bumped the FSB up to 400. At this point the RAM was running at 800MHz, what it is rated to do, and the CPU was at 3.2GHz.

if you want max oc then stick with 9x multi and <400 fsb..imo.

then once you have a stable cpu speed muck around with the ram settings/timings..if you want.

i ended up just setting my ram to stock 800 4-4-4-12. although i have run it at 1100 5-5-5-15.

i kno ram and cpu work together but cpu and ram limits totally separate kettle of fish and you are best to deal with the oc of the cpu and then the ram as separate exercises.

if 400x8 is stable then that's good.
if 370x9 is stable then that's good aswell.
:):shrug:

[Nate P.]

Alright, thanks. I guess I should just be happy with 3.3GHz then.

[XmathX]

Hi i just buy this motherboard and after 20 min of overclocking i HATE IT SOME MUCH!!!. You always need to go back of your computer remove the little pin to reset the cmos when the computer don't post. I miss my Biostar P965.

[trez0r]

Didn't you know you can press and hold down the "home" key while switching on your pc to reset the fsb after a failed overclock? :D

[Nate P.]

Didn't you know you can press and hold down the "home" key while switching on your pc to reset the fsb after a failed overclock? :D
Serious!? That's awesome... I liked my ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus, just restart after a failed OC and it automatically resets the BIOS.

Uh... where's the "home" key?

[trez0r]

Lol look here (http://sillydog.org/graph/ss/apple/keyboard_home_end.png) its a damn mac keyboard but that doesn't matter. Tho im surprised you dont know where the home key is. :rofl:

Anyways holding it down while powering up sometimes doesn't help if the overclock has failed miserably, like putting fsb more than 50mhz over the last one cpu can take.

[Nate P.]

Thanks. I don't use the home key frequently... I don't know many people that do, if any at all. In fact, I find it surprising that you use the home key.:rofl:

[XmathX]

I just try the Home button when a overcloking failed and nothing the computer still run but ton POST and boot to windows .:(

[trez0r]

It helps mostly, but there are some times it doesn' t. Did you press and hold down home button before switching pc on and release it only after you've seen monitor light up if ever?

[XmathX]

I try but still don't work :(

[Nate P.]

Just reset the jumper then. Not that hard unless you don't have any fingers.:)