R my 3d mark reults correct

[stewman]

Hey guys im new to this site.

I was just wondering if my 3d mark reults were correct. Im not sure if they are.

Here r my specs. :slobber:

P4 2.4b @3.06
Asus P4B533 mb
2x256mb 2100 ram
2 X 40gig 5400rpm hd's
1 x 40gig 7200 hd
Asus v8420 ti 4200 vid card



Now thats out of the way. With 3d mark 2001 se 330 build and direct X 9.0a I can manage 11300 with all defaults and
15100 with defaults at 640x480.

now with 3d mark 03 free version i can manage 1500.
with a cpu score of 550.


All those results r with standard bios settings. No ram has been overclocked and the cpu/mem frequency ratio is set to auto. I can change this to 1:1 and pump out an extra 700 3d marks but the system is not stable and i can also overclock the memory timings a bit and get and extra 200 3d marks.

Im running a p4 spark cpu fan which can manage 50 degress full load and 37 degrees at idle so heat is not a porblem.


If anyone can help me with any ways to increase my score it would be greatly appreciated.

Well thanks for the help.

:)

[twiztdskatr]

The ram you are sporting is really holding you back. Its max is supposed to be 133 FSB :(

[stewman]

yeah thats wat I thought but the max my mobo can take is 2100

[jaawood]

your mobo can take higher ram. that is the max it is supposed to take if everthing is stock. your mobo will support much much higher ram, and i suggest you get some and you oc will increase.

[stewman]

ok thanks man. Would 2700 change it much or should i try some other kind. Wat other ram would u sugest.

[stewman]

my mobo book says supports PC2100/1600 unbuffered ECC/non-ECC DDR DIMMs

[stewman]

Im also running detonators 44.03. Are there any specific drivers that would work better with my card and the intel chipset.

[twiztdskatr]

You can use PC3700 or as high of DDR as you want :D

[jaawood]

i would say get some good (corsair, kingston) PC3200 or PC3500. That will give you plenty of room to overclock, and then you can run your mem divider 3:4 and utilize a lot more memory bandwidth. also, you can get this memory relatively inexpensive, unless ofcourse you want to spend the big bucks and get some PC3700 or PC4000. but the timings will be better with the 3200 or 3500. if you get some good ram, then your overclock will go up and probably be bottlenecked then by either the mobo or your proc.

what your mobo book says is correct, but it doesn't take into effect overclocking. PC2100 is meant to run at 133 mhz, which in theory should be the max fsb your system will run. however, when you overclock, the fsb increases, so you will need some ddr ram that can run at 166 mhz (PC2700) or even 200mhz (PC3200).

also, the best vid card drivers right now i believe are 42.51s (please correct me if i am wrong). rivatuner to overclock the video card seems to work great for most people, and there are some tweaks within that overclocking program.

[twiztdskatr]

with a system like his 3200 will be probably all he needs :)

[jaawood]

yeah, i'd say yer right, twiztd.

[CSOFT]

Originally posted by twiztdskatr
with a system like his 3200 will be probably all he needs :)

True, but he might be happy he got the 3500 in the future.

[stewman]

k

Thanks guys. I'll probably grab a 512mb stick of pc 3200 from some where. My fsb at the moment is 18x 170. Would that ram be ok.

I'll probably get a stick for around $180.

[twiztdskatr]

dont get 512mb sticks unless you plan to get another, otherwise get 2x256mb :D

[stewman]

ok

Will 1 256 mb stick be enought for now. Will the performance be affected with only 256. Also will my cpu be able to overclock higher now.

[twiztdskatr]

Originally posted by stewman
...Thanks guys. I'll probably grab a 512mb stick of pc 3200...

if you can afford a 512 stick then why not get 2x256?

and 170fsb is damn good for pc2100 :eek:

I suggest getting something good.

Corsair XMS3200LL
Kingston HyperX 3500
OCZ Gold 3700
TwinMOS 3200 BH-5

[stewman]

hey guys i got 1 stick of 256mb ddr pc 3200 called giel. Its got a heat spreader.

I cant get my fsb any higher only to 174. My machines runs stable at 1:1 ratio now. So i get 12200 in 3d mark now. But in sisoft sandra 2003 it says my ram is only running the same as pc 2700. The ram is overclocked. Thats about right isnt because im not running my fsb at 200. Wish i could tho.

Is there any way of getting to 200 fsb.

Well thanks

[jaawood]

what is your vcore at right now? because, the only way to run a higher fsb is overclock the cpu, so if you can raise the vcore anymore to get a higher overclock then taht would be good. however, watch your temps closely. also, set your mem divider to 3:4 ratio in teh bios, so that when your fsb is at 174 then your mem will run at ~232 mhz. however, it might not run that fast right away. change the fsb to 150 so that the mem runs at it's rated speed of 200 mhz, start with tightest timings on your mem, then slowly add mem voltage and run sandra burnin. then raise the fsb a few mhz at a time, and continue to burnin. this will burnin the mem so it will run with tighter timings at lower volts.

[twiztdskatr]

2.4b has a pretty high multi..18 i think it is and 18x200 is only 3.06....hm...

the Tt spark7 cpu hsf isnt a very good combo :( what is the cooling on your northbridge?

[jaawood]

btw, you are right about the multi, it is 18x133=2400, but 18x200=3600 , not 3.06 and i'd say he would be VERY lucky to get 3600 even with a prommie.:D :)

[twiztdskatr]

oh sorry i read my calculator wrong

[stewman]

thanks

But i can get 3:4 ratio up to 132 fsb. Any higher the ratio changes to 4:3 that suxz

So at the moment im running the same as pc 2700.

My v core is at 1.650.

Also my northbridge only has a heatsink thats it.

[stewman]

Ive updated my bios to the latest. Should i put the original back on.

[twiztdskatr]

the latest bios would be the best.

put it at a 1:1 divider, and crank teh fsb :)

btw, it aint hittin 3.6ghz with only 1.65volts. whats the stepping on that baby?

[zakelwe]

For increasing the 3dmark score I'd bve tempted to switch to tuning the video card now rather than spending more time eeking out that last bit from the motherboard !

What's your GF4 4200 runing at at present and do you know what speed memory it has on it ? Do you still have stock cooling on it and what is your operating system ( to determine which is the best driver )?

Regards

Andy

[jaawood]

i was trying to help him with the cpu/mobo more, because there are lots more details to think about with that vs. the video card. also 3D01 is a lot more dependent on system speed than gfx card speed. however, the card clocks are still relevant ;) :D :cool:

[stewman]

ok

Im running win xp pro.

My cpu stepping goes from 133 to 400 fsb.

No matter wat ratio i have it on i can get it past 180fsb stabel. And thats with a voltage of 1.7 or 1.8.

[jaawood]

do you know if it is a B0 or C1 stepping? because, the C1s usually do very well up to about 1.65-1.7 volts, and anything more doesn't help, and teh B0s don't clock very good. i bet you have a C1. in that case, running high volts probably wont help, it will only shorten the life of the cpu. i wouldn't go over 1.7 volts.

[LukeK]

u think your score is bad
i run 1700+ at 2.8 and my 9800pro at 460/366 and i still barely (20-50p) break 20k......i mean its at 200fsb.........does fsb really matter that much!!!!!

[jaawood]

huh, seems kind of like your score should be a bit higher. have you tried defraging and disabling the excess services? maybe you want to try and bench on a fresh windows install...

[Fanatic]

hmz, i get 12k 3dmarks with a GF4TI4200@standards (250/500) on a 2100+@11.5x185, detonator 43.51 is the best driver for me try that one