Samsung 226BW + HD (?)

[StupidityTheory]

I'm about to order a Samsung 226BW monitor for my self and I heard some talk about some monitors being unable (?) to play HD movies, I'm not sure if I'm in the right place for this type of questions but I hope I can get some answers;

I would just like to know what are HD movies exactly and how do they relate to the monitor when they are played?
From what I understand HD movies are simply movies that run on high resolutions and nothing more, is that really so? can any monitor capable of reaching the desired resolution be able to run those HD movies?

thanks for the help.

[twin_savage]

ya your right, an hd movie is just a movie at a higher res, a monitor that does not even reach the movie res will play the movie, it just downsizes the picture, of course its better to have an hd monitor to view hd movies though. i have this monitor and i can play whatever i want.

now about aspect ratios, the one your getting has a 16:10 aspect ratio and i believe most 1080 hd tvs have a 16:9 aspect ratio. this meaning that there will be really small black bars at the end of the screen on its sides since the monitor your getting is wider than the 1080 hd tvs proportionally. i'm pretty sure you can set up your aspect ratio in most hd movies, not the hd files though.

[zanzabar]

ur mistaken, to get full quality if a drm flag is turned on or even playback if a flag is on u will need a drive grafix card and monitor that are htpc certified, rite now the only cards are the hd 2x00 from ati adn i think that all blue ray and hd dvd drives are certified as of rite now some might not so be sure to look (the xbox hd dvd usb drive is an exception, and the 360 isnt certified but the ps3 is), it also requires an hdmi or duel link dvi interface

[apexracing]

Stop spouting rubbish, please. Misinformation causes people to leave the forums.

HD movies will play if you have three things: HDCP on both videocard and monitor, the correct software which supports the H264 codec, and the HD DVD/Blueray drive. As far as I'm aware, that's all you need to make it work.

The only issue I can think of is if you're using Windows Vista, where the DRM is more intrusive. But I doubt that would be a problem for you.

[twin_savage]

i'm just talking about playing hidef mkv files. that monitor is hdcp, btw.

[ChaosMinionX]

226BW will not do 1080 anything, as its max resolution (as well as its native) is 1680x1050 max you could do is 720.

You need a minimum of 1920x1080 (which is usually only 24" monitors at this time) to correctly display a 1080i/p image. And there is no DRM or HDCP or (HTPC: wherever HTPC certification comes in to play?) limitations between ATI or Nvidia, they both will play HD movies, although its said that Nvidias HQV playback is not as nice as ATI.

ZanzaFUD, why is it everytime you post its alot of fact with misinformation?

You need a vacation.

[zanzabar]

im not posting misinformation im posting what u need for hd/blue ray and protected high def content, not for games or random internet videos, and its not vistas drm, vista supports the playback so it has the platforms drm its not something that microsoft made up


and its under the aacs playback flags
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Access_Content_System


there are flags that remove or lower quality on analog and one that removes or lowers quality for non certified digital products




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i think that i got the certs name wrong but my point is still valid and nvidia dosnt have it, btu the g9x chips might

[ChaosMinionX]

im not posting misinformation im posting what u need for hd/blue ray and protected high def content, not for games or random internet videos, and its not vistas drm, vista supports the playback so it has the platforms drm its not something that microsoft made up


and its under the aacs playback flags
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Access_Content_System


there are flags that remove or lower quality on analog and one that removes or lowers quality for non certified digital products


Ok playback flags as part of DRM to determine if the thing is going to have high quality through HDCP and whatnot, but where does it state only ATI does this? And only PS3 and not 360, etc etc as you stated here.

rite now the only cards are the hd 2x00 from ati adn i think that all blue ray and hd dvd drives are certified as of rite now some might not so be sure to look (the xbox hd dvd usb drive is an exception, and the 360 isnt certified but the ps3 is), it also requires an hdmi or duel link dvi interface

All well and good you cited AACS but theres nothing about one card being better than the other regarding playback, except for maybe quality which has been cited in HQV tests.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1917072,00.asp

HQV testing, you can see the difference :)

[HotGore]

zanzabar you also forgot to mention that nVidia does HDCP. Funny how you forgot that :P Don't forget that the AMD 690 chipset integrated video does HDPC, and I believe that their is a Intel solution as well.

I bet if found who zanzabar was I bet he would work for ATi.

[zanzabar]

that would be awsome i need a job, but when i was looking over benches and specs on teh g8x chips i saw nothing on nvidia supporting anything drm related and they had said that they werent going to support it since no1 would turn it on


also for the record i have family who work for nvidia and my cousin used to do console grafix but affter the great job on teh ps3 he got moved to intel chipsets witch goes along with the great job on the 780i so i dont think that he will be there long or at least as a project manager



back on topic though, that monitor will do what u need it to do and im sure that some1 like the people who make dvd region free will make hd drm free or something to that extent that disables the flags negating my points that it wont do the drm, and the drives are $500 so its kinda pointless to buy one now or in the near future so ust get that monitor


off topic why are computer lcds 50hz or 2ms but i just saw a sony lcd tv at 120hz or .8ms, why dont lcd moitors have that they run at the same resolution

[HotGore]

The G8x chips do HDCP. http://www.nvidia.com/page/8800_features.html

HDCP Capable:
Designed to meet the output protection management (HDCP) and security specifications of the Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD formats, allowing the playback of encrypted movie content on PCs when connected to HDCP-compliant displays. Requires other HDCP-compatible components.

It is near the bottom, so I guess you missed it well doing your fact checking :P