snn47
07-13-2003, 09:03 AM
Just wondering if anyone at Xtreme owns/uses one of these HD-Burn capeable DVD-R(W)
or a Plextor GigaRecdrives CD-R(W).
Sanyo CRD-BPDV2
Optorite DD0203 ~199$US
Accesstek DD0203 ~199$US
MSI DR4A with HD-Burn ~199$US info from downunder?
Short summary taken from my posts here
Sanyo introduces 1.4GB CD-R burner/DVD Burner (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34377&highlight=HDBurn)
Another discussion and links here (http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?s=&postid=1465043#post1465043)
Sanyo: HD-Burn = Double Density for standard CD-R(W) using multi formats DVD-R(W) .
Doubles the recording capacity of conventional CD-R media, CD-R(W) intended to be available after Firmware update. Unlike Unlike $ony's monopoly standard called Double Density CD-R (Drive Spressa CRX200E-A1) HD-Burn.
How:
By reduction of the pit length and more efficient error correction
Hardware requirements:
- standard CD-R
- write: DVD-Burner with HD-Burn supporting firmware/chipset
- read: DVD-ROM/-Burner with HD-Burn supporting firmware
Differences between SD- and DD-CD-R:
DD-CD-R Recording capacity: 1.4GB (Type80) vs. 700 MB (Type80) SD-CD-R (=capacity-increase
~2,01 : 1,00)
- pit length: DD-CDR 0.62µm vs. SD-CD-R 0.83µm (=capacity-increase
1,35 : 1,00)
- Error correction method: DD-CDR RS-Product vs. Code CIRC SD-CDR (=capacity-increase x1.49 : 1,00)
- write speed: DD-CDR 36 times standard
- read-spead: DD-CDR max.80 times standard using the CLV (Constant Linear Velocity)
Intension for support according to Sanyo by:
e.g Accesstek, Lite-ON, BTC, BENQ.
AHEAD, BHA and ECI are named as software makers (see CDR-Info Presentation Pick Sanyo 07.gif Wednesday, 25 September 2002)
existing drive CRD-BPDV2 specification: (sample price 50 000Yen available in Japan only)
1. HD-BURN read speed x80, write speed x36
2. CD-R/RW x24/x12/x40
3. DVD+RW/+R x4/x4/x16
4. BURN-Proof, FlexSS-BP
Availability: Claimed to be in January.2003
Good:
++ Doubles capicity of existing CD-R, after firmware upgrade also CD-R(W)(Sanyo's claim)
++ Doubles read speed at same RPM of the CD due to DD at same physical size = quieter drive.
++ Read with existing DVD-ROM/Burner after firmware upgrade (Sanyo's claim)
++ Write added benefit if you have to buy a DVD-Burner anyhow that supports HD-Burn
++ Less CD's to carry around/archive e.g. one instead of 2 for a complete film on (S)VCD
++ Included in Sanyo's new DVD-Burner chipset used by Sanyo & it's OEM partners (price ~3 000Yen)
Bad:
-- Write requires a DVD-Burner to support the smaller pit size
-- read cannot be read by current CD-R(R) drives due to smaller pit size
-- depends on the good will of manufacturers to upgrade existing DVD-ROM/-Burner firmware to allow reading HD-Burn
-- CD-R(W) not yet supported
Softwaresupport e.g. in NERO since 5.5.10.35
Plextor: Giga-Rec CD-R(W)
PlexWriter Premium 52x32x52x.
Read today the review in c't about the new Plextor drive (German PC-paper heise.de) even though not very detailed provided some new info on Giga-Rec.
Giga Rec
- writes smaller pits
- limited to max. 4x speed
- Burn-Proof turned off
- seems to be flexible you can choose e.g. 120% up to 140%
- no external read support found on all their available readers.
So both have the same problem
they find a way to make it readable in other drives as well.
All in all Gigarec doesn't sound as convincing as HD-Burn.
or a Plextor GigaRecdrives CD-R(W).
Sanyo CRD-BPDV2
Optorite DD0203 ~199$US
Accesstek DD0203 ~199$US
MSI DR4A with HD-Burn ~199$US info from downunder?
Short summary taken from my posts here
Sanyo introduces 1.4GB CD-R burner/DVD Burner (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34377&highlight=HDBurn)
Another discussion and links here (http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?s=&postid=1465043#post1465043)
Sanyo: HD-Burn = Double Density for standard CD-R(W) using multi formats DVD-R(W) .
Doubles the recording capacity of conventional CD-R media, CD-R(W) intended to be available after Firmware update. Unlike Unlike $ony's monopoly standard called Double Density CD-R (Drive Spressa CRX200E-A1) HD-Burn.
How:
By reduction of the pit length and more efficient error correction
Hardware requirements:
- standard CD-R
- write: DVD-Burner with HD-Burn supporting firmware/chipset
- read: DVD-ROM/-Burner with HD-Burn supporting firmware
Differences between SD- and DD-CD-R:
DD-CD-R Recording capacity: 1.4GB (Type80) vs. 700 MB (Type80) SD-CD-R (=capacity-increase
~2,01 : 1,00)
- pit length: DD-CDR 0.62µm vs. SD-CD-R 0.83µm (=capacity-increase
1,35 : 1,00)
- Error correction method: DD-CDR RS-Product vs. Code CIRC SD-CDR (=capacity-increase x1.49 : 1,00)
- write speed: DD-CDR 36 times standard
- read-spead: DD-CDR max.80 times standard using the CLV (Constant Linear Velocity)
Intension for support according to Sanyo by:
e.g Accesstek, Lite-ON, BTC, BENQ.
AHEAD, BHA and ECI are named as software makers (see CDR-Info Presentation Pick Sanyo 07.gif Wednesday, 25 September 2002)
existing drive CRD-BPDV2 specification: (sample price 50 000Yen available in Japan only)
1. HD-BURN read speed x80, write speed x36
2. CD-R/RW x24/x12/x40
3. DVD+RW/+R x4/x4/x16
4. BURN-Proof, FlexSS-BP
Availability: Claimed to be in January.2003
Good:
++ Doubles capicity of existing CD-R, after firmware upgrade also CD-R(W)(Sanyo's claim)
++ Doubles read speed at same RPM of the CD due to DD at same physical size = quieter drive.
++ Read with existing DVD-ROM/Burner after firmware upgrade (Sanyo's claim)
++ Write added benefit if you have to buy a DVD-Burner anyhow that supports HD-Burn
++ Less CD's to carry around/archive e.g. one instead of 2 for a complete film on (S)VCD
++ Included in Sanyo's new DVD-Burner chipset used by Sanyo & it's OEM partners (price ~3 000Yen)
Bad:
-- Write requires a DVD-Burner to support the smaller pit size
-- read cannot be read by current CD-R(R) drives due to smaller pit size
-- depends on the good will of manufacturers to upgrade existing DVD-ROM/-Burner firmware to allow reading HD-Burn
-- CD-R(W) not yet supported
Softwaresupport e.g. in NERO since 5.5.10.35
Plextor: Giga-Rec CD-R(W)
PlexWriter Premium 52x32x52x.
Read today the review in c't about the new Plextor drive (German PC-paper heise.de) even though not very detailed provided some new info on Giga-Rec.
Giga Rec
- writes smaller pits
- limited to max. 4x speed
- Burn-Proof turned off
- seems to be flexible you can choose e.g. 120% up to 140%
- no external read support found on all their available readers.
So both have the same problem
they find a way to make it readable in other drives as well.
All in all Gigarec doesn't sound as convincing as HD-Burn.