View Full Version : How to read P4's??
Kunaak
07-12-2003, 10:55 PM
I am pretty familiar with how to read a great deal of the code on a AMD CPU, but as of now, I still can't see how people know what thier P4 CPU is.
I know my CPU is a costa rica only cause it says so on the CPU IHS itself.
other then that, heres whats on the box.
Product code: BX80532PG2400DSL6WF
MM: 852314
FPO/Batch: 3318A035
Pack date 6-5-03
so what here in this tells, me anything?
it would help to know, so next time I can look for a malaysia.
;)
costa rica week 18 of 2003
hold up i will link u
"Reading the FPO/BATCH Code on your Intel CPU"
by TASOS
Since there are many new member here in these forums....that cannot really "translate" the fpo\batch of their cpu....here follows a small guide....the more experienced members can correct me if i'm wrong in any of these....thx.
1st letter or digit=plant code
0=San Jose,Costa Rica
3=..............,Costa Rica
1=Cavite,Philippines
R=Manila,Philippines
7=..........,Philippines
9=Penang,Malaysia
Q=...........,Malaysia
L=............,Malaysia
8=Leixlip,Ireland
Y=Leixlip,Ireland
6=Chandler,Arizona
Example:L149A463-0726
L=plant (Malay)
2nd digit=Year of production (2001)
3rd & 4th digits=week (49th week )
(A463)=some kind of traceability number
(0726)=Serialization code
Any more input is welcome
Thanks
(This post has been taken from a Sticky by one of our Members, TASOS)
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=187691
Kunaak
07-12-2003, 11:05 PM
FPO/Batch: 3318A035
so from here, thats 3=costa rica, 3-year, 18 is week, rest is blah blah blah (useless)
from here: BX80532PG2400D
would SL6WF be considerd the "stepping"?
is steppings even important in P4s?
charlie
07-12-2003, 11:15 PM
SL6WF is the S code
Stepping is C1, D1
S code identifies whether a chip is OEM, RETAIL, voltages and origin.
C
Kunaak
07-12-2003, 11:16 PM
I don't really understand what you said there:confused:
charlie
07-12-2003, 11:22 PM
S code...I used to have a great link for an S code calculator on Intel website. You enter the s code and it gives you important info. S code is important for Intel oc. But current P4/800's are all on the same s code. I will search for it on Intel.com
C
SL6WF is the sSpec code like charlie said and yes it is very important cuase it will tell you what revision the chip is AKA Core Stepping BO, C1, D1...
the myth about which plant the chip came from is somewhat accurate and sometimes its just luck.
the costa rica week 52 for the sl6rz seem to be the best C1 overclockers for the 2.4b. that chips performed slightly better then the malays but now it seems the malays D1 are performing better then the costa rica. seems to go back and forth so i really dont know what to say but just pray you get lucky.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/list.asp?ProcFam=483&CorSpd=ALL&ordType=ALL&SysBusSpd=ALL&PkgType=ALL&btnFOS=Filter+on+selections
charlie
07-12-2003, 11:36 PM
BOOM! There it is...thanks AZN.
Kunaak, all you can really do is try to find a current week code and a Malaysia chip...
There's something really important to realize, though, Kunaak.
It really is a crapshoot. Not long ago, I built up 18 P4 2.4C's...all the same batch. At default core voltage, the highest hit 3372, lowest hit 3060. Unlike the athlons, there's always going to be a bit more luck involved. Hell, I once had 12 2.0/400's, and the worst wouldn't do 2.6, and the best did 3.3...again, all the same batch.
There really isn't a magic batch number for P4's.
Hell, if there was, we'd all have 2.4's at 3600 or 3.0's over 4GHz ;)
It's a crapshoot.
Kunaak
07-13-2003, 02:28 AM
yeah, I kinda see that now.
having been an AMD guy for the first year of my OC life, I never paid all that much attention to P4's, but now I have had a few P4's and am learning, they are really about luck more then anything...
no DLT3C or AQXEA to look for :(
Ragnarok
07-13-2003, 05:09 AM
u look for s-specs + core week (not packaging date) + plant of origin
Personally I am supersitituos and always go for th 'L' Malaysian chips
Neptune5k
07-14-2003, 09:01 PM
I just got my 2.6c today, I'm going to get everything set up later this week. Anyways, its from the Phillipines, are those good overclockers?
Kunaak
07-14-2003, 09:39 PM
not usually from what I hear :(
Boogotop
07-14-2003, 09:58 PM
i really like my 2.6c from malaysia :) on my ic7 the max i can reach is 303fsb....but on this crappy MSI Neo2 865PE i can run it 24/7 at these speed
http://sites.rapidus.net/maxbleau/4068mhz.JPG
Kunaak
07-14-2003, 10:28 PM
Boogotop, how do you like that MSI?
I am probably gonna need to replace my P4C800 here soon.
I seem to have some weird block on my CPU voltages past 1.6 volts, and no one seems to know why :(
sandman
07-14-2003, 10:33 PM
What would happen if you did a volt mod, but only increased the voltage up to what it should do from the settings in the Bios.
Kunaak
07-14-2003, 11:06 PM
I have no idea, but I'd rather just get a different board, then bother with that. Vdimm mod is the only one I wanna do, but if I can't get the Vcore working above 1.6, then the Vdimm mod on this P4C won't do much for me.
QuadDamage
07-15-2003, 02:01 AM
yo Boogotop,
what's your max benchable speed of your chip/mobo? also, does your chip like 1.7v+ v-core?
edit ;
I am probably gonna need to replace my P4C800 here soon.
I seem to have some weird block on my CPU voltages past 1.6 volts, and no one seems to know why
what's the problem?
Johnny Knoxvill
07-15-2003, 04:41 AM
just something interesting i found on another site.
quote:
Just to clear something up, the markings on the back of the CPU refer to the packaging site - not the manufacturing site of the actual silicon chip itself. Intel has no fabs in either Malaysia or Costa Rica, they are packaging facilities. The silicon die/chips are manufactured elsewhere in the world and are shipped to either of these two packaging sites. In addition, Intel manufacturing has a goal of running a "virtual fab" - meaning that, among other things, products from one fab are statistically indistinguishable from those manufactured at another fab. So even if, for example using fake names, Malaysian packages used chips only from fab #1 and packages marked Costa Rica use chips from fab #2, there should be no difference statistically between these two.
The silicon is what defines the speed of a CPU, not the package. And the silicon comes from multiple fabs scattered all over the place that are all supposed to be identical anyway.
Patrick Mahoney
Microprocessor Design Engineer
Intel Corp.
There's been a lot of discussion about which Northwoods are better... Ones "made in Costa Rica", or the ones "made in Malaysia." The problem is, no Northwoods are manufactured overseas. All are made in the USA, with the vast majority coming from Fab20 in Hillsboro, OR. They are packaged (in the Socket 478) overseas, but that has no effect on the overclockability.
Normally, these discussions don't raise an eyebrow from me... But lately I've seen resellers charging more for "made in Malay" chips. And in my opinion, this is a ripoff. I just don't want to see people get taken.
Wingznut
.13ยต Lithography Technician
Intel Corp.
Boogotop
07-15-2003, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by Kunaak
Boogotop, how do you like that MSI?
I am probably gonna need to replace my P4C800 here soon.
I seem to have some weird block on my CPU voltages past 1.6 volts, and no one seems to know why :(
i don't really like the mobo...he don't like all memory stick..
twinmos pc3700: can't pass 266fsb
Geil Golden Dragon pc3500: can't pass 240fsb :(
hyperX pc3500:313fsb no problem
today i will try with some Corsair XMS3500
Boogotop
07-15-2003, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by QuadDamage
yo Boogotop,
what's your max benchable speed of your chip/mobo? also, does your chip like 1.7v+ v-core?
edit ;
what's the problem?
4068mhz look like the limit of the chip/mobo....and no prob with 1.7v or more
today i'll put the 9800 on it and i will try 24k ;)
Kunaak
07-15-2003, 07:54 AM
Quad Damage, my issue with the P4C800 can be found Here. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15966)
QuadDamage
07-15-2003, 11:02 AM
Kunaak,
i had similar issues with MSI Neo2. To get 1.7V actual, i had to set the v-core in bios to 2.3V. However, the second board i got wasn't undervolting. I got P4C800 myself now and i must admit the voltages are very stable. I think you got bad board and should replace it if you can.
Amoeba Assassin
07-15-2003, 11:39 AM
his was a refurb fr0m newegg