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blind_ripper
09-01-2007, 11:49 AM
how nice are ppl in the world , amd gives the tool to some ppl but not to evry one .
if some one is willing to share that flash tool pm me , i find tis a outrage that not evry one can play with 2900xt in cf !

Bigchrome
09-01-2007, 12:03 PM
how nice are ppl in the world , amd gives the tool to some ppl but not to evry one .
if some one is willing to share that flash tool pm me , i find tis a outrage that not evry one can play with 2900xt in cf !

If you are sending it to blind...I wouldn't mind it either:D

Kinc
09-02-2007, 11:26 AM
There is no tool. Only a set of bioses. Overclocking crossfire should finally work with 7.9.

Bigchrome
09-02-2007, 12:53 PM
I'll take a bios at 1000/1000 with upped core voltage and a side order of fries so please.


Atm I'd be interested in just having working voltage control... But if the 7.9s will have crossfire OC I'll be very happy.

noir
09-02-2007, 01:14 PM
mh, that 7.9 version, will it also allow for voltage increases? :p:

seriously though, i can't understand amd for not releasing the bios images. For some of us (like me) access to voltage would be the buying argument for hd2900xts.

If you can't share the bioses (which i understand), why dont you open a shop? I'll send you 2 2900xts, and you flash em :D

massman
09-02-2007, 01:28 PM
There is no tool. Only a set of bioses. Overclocking crossfire should finally work with 7.9.

Isn't that how Jason got the CF OC working?

BeardyMan
09-02-2007, 01:32 PM
how nice are ppl in the world , amd gives the tool to some ppl but not to evry one .
if some one is willing to share that flash tool pm me , i find tis a outrage that not evry one can play with 2900xt in cf !

Those are not just some people :) those are wr benchers ;)

noir
09-02-2007, 01:34 PM
Heh, a belgian, we're nearly neighbours :)

Afaik there's just bioses. you just flash the card with them, and it runs on higher voltages. Seems like a company in canada is doing that thing, as it is selling high-clocking HD2900XTs. unfortunately under their own watercooling system.

I just hope for an Xfire version of atitool (not probable) or a release of overclocking bioses. Would go well with the cpu i ordered yesterday.

Lane-k
09-02-2007, 10:16 PM
mh, that 7.9 version, will it also allow for voltage increases? :p:

seriously though, i can't understand amd for not releasing the bios images. For some of us (like me) access to voltage would be the buying argument for hd2900xts.

If you can't share the bioses (which i understand), why dont you open a shop? I'll send you 2 2900xts, and you flash em :D

for voltage acces, it will certainly not come in the drivers, but with ATI Tool... Like with a single 2900 right now, or with other ATI.. It will be really a risk if they allow this in driver itself.. For this you have third party overclocking tools..

blind_ripper
09-03-2007, 09:13 AM
Those are not just some people :) those are wr benchers ;)
what do u meen with that steven !
that only ritch/sponsord guys can use the bios's ? and that the normaal guy that works for evry bit off his hw can µt use them ?

i find that thees called bios's should be open to the public and not limeted to the top/WR people ,the butom line is that only
guys that have some sort of contact with ati/amd or nvidia can make wr and not u avrege joe !

noir
09-03-2007, 09:28 AM
its not only about making WR scores.

would you buy a CPU that comes with a locked VCore? I doubt many in here would have Core2duo if vcore were limited :D

purecain
09-03-2007, 09:33 AM
i agree its total bollox. AMD are really getting me annoyed with this bios situation. if there is a bios out there which there is that will let me set the clocks/voltages in crossfire then i should be able to access it. i paid for the :banana::banana::banana::banana:in cards afterall....:down:

blind_ripper
09-03-2007, 09:35 AM
There is no tool. Only a set of bioses. Overclocking crossfire should finally work with 7.9.

so what u mean is that u can only oc cf with ccc if u have a 8pin pci-e psu ? or is ati tool finaly coming where we need it ?

noir
09-03-2007, 09:40 AM
i guess he meant that there is just no tool. Probably just a set of bioses with preset speeds or voltages.

The flash tool is readily available anyway. As it seems CF OCing with CCC will only allow "normal" overclocking, no VCore adjustments. And i bet you will need those 8pin pci-e cables (which is no problem, there's 6pin -> 8pin adapters all over the place).

As for Atitool i pray every day :)

blind_ripper
09-03-2007, 10:21 AM
noir: if u can tell me a shop in belguim that sell's them i will get some , bucaus this is just amd/ati its way off marketing forceing use to buy a new psu :p: .
and yes oc in ccc is only unable'd if u have a 8pin psu !
for voltage's we have hard-ware mods so np about that

road-runner
09-03-2007, 10:38 AM
I wished ati tool voltages would stay locked after setting the clocks....

Stapler
09-03-2007, 10:59 AM
Why don't you just volt mod the card?

Bigchrome
09-03-2007, 12:30 PM
I don't know....sure that would nearly be easier? Not.

loc.o
09-03-2007, 12:40 PM
noir: if u can tell me a shop in belguim that sell's them i will get some , bucaus this is just amd/ati its way off marketing forceing use to buy a new psu :p: .
and yes oc in ccc is only unable'd if u have a 8pin psu !
for voltage's we have hard-ware mods so np about that

Are you sure you can use overdrive with 8 pins & crossfire? If that is the case maybe this works with 2 cards as wel:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2230228&postcount=1

I think youll need bios though.

Severance
09-03-2007, 05:20 PM
Are you sure you can use overdrive with 8 pins & crossfire? If that is the case maybe this works with 2 cards as wel:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2230228&postcount=1

I think youll need bios though.
It does not work for both loco...I have tried. I find this funny because i tried to start a thread like this a month ago and no one seemed to give a flying Fk about it. If i knew about this before i baught my 2 sapphire cards i would be using nvidia right now.

Dynasty
09-03-2007, 05:55 PM
need to sign an NDA for OC'd bios release for 2900 XT's.
7.9 Catalyst will solve crossfire overclock issue though.
Note this that with Vista 7.8 Cat drivers
you can overclock both cards just fine in crossfire by OD in CCC.
Maybe time to switch to Vista from XP....:D

ChaosMinionX
09-03-2007, 06:39 PM
Heh, a belgian, we're nearly neighbours :)

Afaik there's just bioses. you just flash the card with them, and it runs on higher voltages. Seems like a company in canada is doing that thing, as it is selling high-clocking HD2900XTs. unfortunately under their own watercooling system.

I just hope for an Xfire version of atitool (not probable) or a release of overclocking bioses. Would go well with the cpu i ordered yesterday.

I happen to own one of those modded cards from the company in canada :)

noir
09-04-2007, 04:59 AM
I happen to own one of those modded cards from the company in canada :)

you lucky bastard :)

they don't even ship them to where i live (Europe). And my next build will have a triple radiator dedicated to 2 ati cards.

Oh well, maybe i'll just wait then for 7.9 (don't want to go vista), and if worst comes to worst, i'll voltmod the cards (i'd really prefer a bios or atitool program for setting them tho) :)

Techie
09-04-2007, 07:23 AM
noir: if u can tell me a shop in belguim that sell's them i will get some , bucaus this is just amd/ati its way off marketing forceing use to buy a new psu :p: .
and yes oc in ccc is only unable'd if u have a 8pin psu !
for voltage's we have hard-ware mods so np about that

I want those cables as well :rolleyes:

noir
09-04-2007, 07:40 AM
unfortunately i haven't found them in Belgium; i'll order a pair for me in the USA. as they carry other stuff there too that i want for my next build.

Techie
09-04-2007, 08:54 AM
unfortunately i haven't found them in Belgium; i'll order a pair for me in the USA. as they carry other stuff there too that i want for my next build.

What I'm planning to do, is go to my local store where I bought my Corsair HX620 watt and tell him that I really need those cables. Corsair gives them for free (you have to pay the shipping costs). And if he doesn't want to help me, he loses a very good customer :ROTF: ;) :shakes:

blind_ripper
09-04-2007, 10:38 AM
well my point is why the hell give rats ass about the NDA if they give them to some and othere's non ?
thats totally not fair , that what vince made clear some time ago becaus vince has the hw add his bench room befor any one ells .
i dont want to buy a new psu so i can oc in ccc and so , if ati/amd would put the 6pin to 8pin adaptors with the cards the problem would be clean .
no they just want to make us buy a new psu !
if found one bios atm got one from amd , but hell its still under NDA .
a belguim friend tryed to reprogram the bios but no luck :( , we still have something in mind but il see some higher powers first to see if this will ever be posted ;)

noir
09-04-2007, 04:30 PM
lucky guy :)

even with CCC supporting Xfire overclocks, i still won't be able to use voltmods in software.

I have to admit, i'm not one of the hardcore guys that voltmods his cards without giving it a second thought. I would really prefer to do it through bios, or even better, through a program allowing to set me the additional power only when i need it, namely during 3D mode.

@Techie:
great choice, your 620w supply :)
i plan to use 2 of them for my next build, one for mobo/system, the other for the 2 xfire cards. I got that silly idea to build a system adhering to SPRC ideals while still being able to stand its ground on Xtremesys.
Power & Quietness :D

Severance
09-04-2007, 06:22 PM
Guys.. here is some pics of my power mod for my 2 sapphire cards. What i did was cut a 4 pin power connector in half using a very sharp blade. Please note that the 2 pins on the video card need GROUND not power. Once you cut the connector in half make sure to use the side with yellow power wire because the otherside will not fit into the card and will most likely be trashed anyways once you have cut it. Then u must remove the yellow power wire from the molex cable side and insert it into the ground. Notice the yellow wire is now in the ground position. Also its maybe a good idea to colour the yellow wire with a black marker now that its a ground. Overclocking in CCC will be there once you boot. REMEMBER...THE 2 PINS ON THE VIDEO CARDS NEED GROUND. I hope this guide is easy to understand. If you dont understand PLEASE dont try it . Or all your gonna get is a nice light show for about half a second. LOL

G H Z
09-04-2007, 07:11 PM
Is it overclocking both cards severance?

Severance
09-04-2007, 07:20 PM
Is it overclocking both cards severance?

hehe...Nope. Im also on vista. 1 card overclock works only. On a side note guys, When i first got these cards I was using a OCZ 700w psu GamexStream. It lasted for one half of an 3dmark06 run then it decided to have a melt down.. u should have seen it, was impressive. It almost blew a hole through the drywall, big black mark there now where the flame hit so i upgraded to a galaxy 1000 now all is fine. These cards are power hungry. Its a good idea to disable crossfire when your not gaming or benching.. my galaxy blows hot air when crossfire is enabled and cool air when its not.

Bigchrome
09-05-2007, 11:37 AM
Whoa....For a second I thought that you had chopped up the 4 pin of the galaxy! Doesn't yours have 2x 8 pin connectors anyway?? And you know you can use a paperclip as ground too.

blind_ripper
09-05-2007, 11:40 AM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=157778
put up this mod for evry one that wants to try it .
well the psu mod looks good , lol i have a OCZ proxstream 1000watt :) blows hot air all the time :p .
try and change the fan setting ;) the 80mm fan on the ocz is load on load but it handels cf with np ;)

Severance
09-05-2007, 12:28 PM
Whoa....For a second I thought that you had chopped up the 4 pin of the galaxy! Doesn't yours have 2x 8 pin connectors anyway?? And you know you can use a paperclip as ground too.

yah i know, Im ghetto but not that ghetto brother.;) Its an older galaxy with 4X6 pin.

vanovich
09-05-2007, 01:17 PM
There is no tool. Only a set of bioses. Overclocking crossfire should finally work with 7.9.

has anyone tried the beta?

vanovich
09-09-2007, 01:15 PM
any info about oc in cf yet?

Bigchrome
09-10-2007, 10:52 AM
I will tell you friday if someone hasn't already.

vanovich
09-12-2007, 02:57 AM
dam , i thought the 7,9 drivers where soppused to let us oc in crossfire .
just tried them ,and no increase in score when oc in cf .i just noticed some people that are oc with amd oc tool , that they have the option to set 2d/3d in the program .the tool i downloaded dosnt give that chioce as its greyed out .why friday Bigchrome ?

Bigchrome
09-12-2007, 06:45 AM
Friday I will hopefully have two cards.

macci
09-13-2007, 02:50 PM
Here is a method that should allow you to overclock 2 x 2900XTs in CrossFire. Its not user-friendly (as there are quite a few steps involved) but should get the job done for now...

1st step is to download the GPUClocktool (LINK (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/536/AMD_GPU_Clock_Tool_v0.7.html))

2nd step is to get the updated toollib.dll file for GPUClocktool - LINK (http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9480&d=1189719797)

Extract the zip file and then copy the DLL to the same folder (replaces the original DLL).

Then follow these steps:

1) disable CrossFire from CCC
2) bring up display properties and select display #2 (this would be the "Virtual" display that is connected to the 2nd GFX card)
http://img.techpowerup.org/070913/2.png
3) extend your desktop to this 2nd display and hit "APPLY"
http://img.techpowerup.org/070913/3.png
4) select "use this device as primary monitor" (for 2nd display), go back to display #1 and UNCHECK "Extend my desktop onto this monitor" THEN hit APPLY
http://img.techpowerup.org/070913/4.png
http://img.techpowerup.org/070913/5.png
5) now your primary card should be displaying blank image and the 2nd card is active, CONNECT your monitor cable to the 2nd GFX card and you should see your desktop and Windows again
6) open GPUCLocktool, select "3D clocks" and select the proper card from the drop down menu (the proper card is the one that gives you a proper 3D clock reading (e.g. 743/828 for example)
http://img.techpowerup.org/070913/6.png
7) set GFX clocks to desired values (example 850/950) (NOTE: it will give an error saying "SetClock Failed" - you can ignore this, the clock adjustment works)
http://img.techpowerup.org/070913/7.png
8) now your 2nd card is clocked to the right speed, now redo steps 2-5 and restore your desktop to the 1st GFX card and then connect the monitor back to the 1st card
9) again open GPUClocktool, select "3d clocks" and select the proper card (which should still have default 3D clocks) and adjust the 3d clocks to desired values (850/950 for example)
10) start CCC and ENABLE CrossFire

A quick way to confirm that your really clocked both cards is to run 3DMark06 HDR1 test (Canyon flight) first with default clocks and then after the adjustments.

Here is how much I gained going from 743/828 to 850/950 (using a 3G CPU):
http://img.techpowerup.org/070913/HDR1test.png

EDIT:

NOTE1: tested with CAT 7.9 under WinXP 32bit (havent tried other OS versions yet)
NOTE2: if you want to change clocks again you need to go thru the whole list (and start by disabling CrossFire)
NOTE3: settings will be reset after reboot

GLENBOY
09-13-2007, 03:08 PM
thanks macci at last some way to overclock crossfire :clap: a bit of old skool overclocking

Cordovader
09-13-2007, 03:18 PM
Thanks Macci :toast:

I will try with my 2900XT´s and give some feedback :D

vanovich
09-13-2007, 03:19 PM
Thanks macci ,now thats the spirit .:up: ill give it a shot when i get the chance .

loc.o
09-13-2007, 03:54 PM
You gotta love the way Ati cards oc :D thank you VERY much for this info Macci :up:

GLENBOY
09-13-2007, 03:54 PM
Macci you are a tru legend i have been waiting 3 months to be able to do this , works like a charm

here is my 3dmark03 at 3922mhz on default card clocks score 67145

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5491023


and here at 3878 mhz with cards overclocked at 849/971 using maccis method 3dmark03 score 72799

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5520003


you are the man macci thanks a million for publishing this i am well chuffed i knew these cards were great

once again i thank you sir

loc.o
09-13-2007, 04:02 PM
Looking forward to your gain in 05 Glen, i wont have a second card again before this weekend im afraid.

GLENBOY
09-13-2007, 04:07 PM
thanks loco its been a long time waiting to overclock these hd2900s , its not ideal a bit old skool but it definitely works its a bit warm here in the uk at the moment so not the best to run cpu at top clocks amazingly my 03 score is only a few hundred points off my 01 score

loc.o
09-13-2007, 04:16 PM
Your 67k is high already i think. 03 is all about gpu it seems. 1ghz more on cpu gave me only 1k more in 03 (3.4ghz to 4.4) and at 4.4 i have 59.2 with 2x2900 stock.

Curious what nature in 2001 wil do with 2x870/1000 and lod +3~3.5.....

blind_ripper
09-14-2007, 12:12 PM
finally macci jumps back in action and gets us something to DO :p: , thx macci ;) .

looks like this thread has had some meening .

massman
09-14-2007, 12:34 PM
CF ocing will raise in the next couple of weeks :D

Thank, Macci

1Day
09-15-2007, 12:58 AM
Macci you are a legend not only because of your achievements but because you are simply you... thank you.

GLENBOY
09-20-2007, 07:48 AM
hiya macci what are you using to up the gpu volts when in crossfire are you using ati tool beta 2 just for the voltages and upping the volts one at a time similar to overclocking them thanks

boblemagnifique
09-21-2007, 07:54 AM
Hi guys

I test the first 2900XT and CF on my hand :D , i don't understand all yet :rolleyes:

I have limited with The ATI Overdrive for the Frequency (858/900) :(

For the moment , the cards are stock air (no mod) but this week end under Chiller and LN2 (single and maybe CF) :)

i disabled ATI Smart and ATI Hotkey Poller (in the Service)

If somebody can help me resolved the frequencies, thank you :yepp:

PS :I am really a beginner in the 2900XT :rofl:

http://www.ixtremtek.com/ixtek/Overclocking/Graphic/Sapphire/CF2900XT/27184pts.JPG

Fixxxer
09-21-2007, 08:21 AM
You won't be able to overclock the crossfire via CCC.

There was some kind of trick that someone posted in XS forums, but don't remember where.

The best way is getting BIOS and flashing the cards.

Is a shame that ATI doesn't support OC in CF.

Gautam
09-21-2007, 08:22 AM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2429965&postcount=40

GL bob :D

boblemagnifique
09-21-2007, 12:01 PM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2429965&postcount=40

GL bob :D

Yeahhh many thank :D

27900pts = http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=3475209

EmineM
11-05-2007, 08:21 AM
yea would be really good to know if u can up the voltages using Ati tool by following a similar procedure described by macci

dietwaterrr
11-13-2007, 06:49 PM
can anyone get this to work on vista 64?