So my Fuzion baseplate is....

[situman]

developing what seems to be ridges or cracks. Can someone point me to the right person to PM? No its not scratches. It is deeper than scratches. I wonder if it will split open and spill water all over the comp. :p:

[Martinm210]

Wow....we need PICS!!!

[situman]

I tried taking pics but its so difficult to see the ridges with a digital cam so I deleted the pics.

[Jedda]

You're going to have to be a bit more detailed in word or pics.
Or get the contact adress for your supplier or D-Tek, but you'll need to either supply pics or the block to them too.
The baseplate? The copper part, inside or outside?

[Senater_Cache]

its called macro mode, usually indicated as a flower on your camera.

[situman]

its called macro mode, usually indicated as a flower on your camera.

hmmm u would think I would know how to use my own camera:p: On the pics it looks like a normal scratch. But looking at it closely reveals something deeper.

[iadstudio]

got a scanner?

[MaStA]

Hmm...scary. I'm about to buy one!

[RadoHx]

developing what seems to be ridges or cracks. Can someone point me to the right person to PM? No its not scratches. It is deeper than scratches. I wonder if it will split open and spill water all over the comp. :p:

What thermal compound are you using?

I tried MX-2 and it left micro scratches (not ridges or cracks) on my polished Apogee GTX and my lapped E6600 :( . Since then I reverted back to AS5.

Regards,

Rado

[ColonelCain]

its called macro mode, usually indicated as a flower on your camera.

hmmm u would think I would know how to use my own camera:p: On the pics it looks like a normal scratch. But looking at it closely reveals something deeper.

Cache, you're remark was worded a little harshly. situman, despite the emoncication, that was a little too snide and un-needed.
I wouldn't really recommend attacking people that are trying to help you.

Anyhow, back to the subject.

I say put the pics back up. Anything would be helpful. Maybe try puting a piece of paper inside of the "cracks" that you mentioned, penciling it off, and taking a picture of that.

[situman]

What thermal compound are you using?

I tried MX-2 and it left micro scratches (not ridges or cracks) on my polished Apogee GTX and my lapped E6600 :( . Since then I reverted back to AS5.

Regards,

Rado

Hmm come to think of it, I've been using MX-1. Wonder if that's the cause of it. I've just switched to MX-2.

I'll take some pics tonight.

[situman]

Cache, you're remark was worded a little harshly. situman, despite the emoncication, that was a little too snide and un-needed.
I wouldn't really recommend attacking people that are trying to help you.

Anyhow, back to the subject.

I say put the pics back up. Anything would be helpful. Maybe try puting a piece of paper inside of the "cracks" that you mentioned, penciling it off, and taking a picture of that.

O it was all in good fun. I didn't mean anything negative (notice the :p: )?

[mcoffey]

errrrr,

something ain't right, let's see the pics. ridges, cracks...doesn't make sence.

andyc

[SparkyJJO]

You mean cracks in the base of the fuzion? :eek: How deep?

I'll be pulling my fuzion within a week or so when I adjust my loop, I have mine cranked down pretty tight so I'll see whether my fuzion's base has any strange cracks in it.

[nealh]

What thermal compound are you using?

I tried MX-2 and it left micro scratches (not ridges or cracks) on my polished Apogee GTX and my lapped E6600 :( . Since then I reverted back to AS5.

Regards,

Rado

on my Fuzion after removing the plastic protector from the base I used Artic cleaning products and coffee filter and I got some fine "scratches, lines or whatever which will not effect performance and I doubt any "mark" MX2 creates will affect the block as well

[Senater_Cache]

situman, is the crack too deep for TIM to fill?, is it located in a critical location or to the side?

PS...you know I wasnt trying to be harsh, right?

[situman]

situman, is the crack too deep for TIM to fill?, is it located in a critical location or to the side?

PS...you know I wasnt trying to be harsh, right?

Don't worry about it man (notice the :p: ) no offense taken. The cracks or ridges aren't very deep. I don't think I would want to fill it in with thermal paste and it could lead to bigger crack. I actually have two. One towards teh middle and one leads to the edge of the block from the middle. I will take it out and take a picture as best as I could tonight. I just hope I'm overreacting as I really like this block.

[SparkyJJO]

You could probably RMA it if it the cracks are a problem.

[situman]

Hope this is clearer. Took me a good 10mins to get the pics. I have more but too lazy to resize and stuff. Danny from Dtek already sent me a new baseplate. I insisted on paying for the shipping and cost of the baseplate. I will be sending this back to him. I'm still curious as to how this happened as is its in the middle of the plate. Wonder if the convex nature of the base caused this. The crack or gouge is actually smaller than it looks in the picture.

All in all, I am satisfied. Dtek took care of me and I feel lots more secure

[Cupcake]

Thats nice of the guys at DTek

I have always liked their blocks (even though im using an apogee GTX ;))

[dr4gon]

Wow! That is impressive. Glad you got it straightened out. Why would you insist on paying? It's covered by a lifetime? I believe warranty.

[situman]

danny said he will refund me anyways. Didn't wanna feel like Im scamming someone.

[dr4gon]

danny said he will refund me anyways. Didn't wanna feel like Im scamming someone.

your a good honest person, I respect that! But it would seem that you would need a lot of force to cause that!

[sergers]

a friend of mine hardmounted his fuzion (no springs) tightened his fuzion down till he heard creaking sounds... unmounted the block, and the sides of the IHS puts some dents on the side of the mounting plate where it met the corner of the IHS... in no way hurting performance.

no cracks, just a small dent...

I dont see how your mounting plate got cracked... it looks like you were playing catch on cement with it...
but it is nice that Danny replaced it.

[Martinm210]

I thought the fuzion blocks were forged, but I too also had a bad experience with the GFX block I'm in the process of testing.

The pins on the GFX are not all nice and true, and when I was cleaning the pin area with a soft brass brush, a freaking pin just popped right out of there. I was not brushing very hard, but this leads me to believe they have trouble in the casting process when the mold is getting removed. The bases must be cast leaving a brittle material compared to forging. I also emailed D-tek, but they have yet to repsond to me...:down:

[Jupiler]

When I received my Fuzion block from Petra's, I noticed that 1 pin was missing.
I thought it wasn't a big deal but still mailed Quoc about it.
He contacted Danny and I got a replacement baseplate, I didn't have to pay a thing. :up:

I thought the fuzion blocks were forged, but I too also had a bad experience with the GFX block I'm in the process of testing.

The pins on the GFX are not all nice and true, and when I was cleaning the pin area with a soft brass brush, a freaking pin just popped right out of there. I was not brushing very hard, but this leads me to believe they have trouble in the casting process when the mold is getting removed. The bases must be cast leaving a brittle material compared to forging. I also emailed D-tek, but they have yet to repsond to me...:down:

[MaStA]

a friend of mine hardmounted his fuzion (no springs) tightened his fuzion down till he heard creaking sounds... unmounted the block, and the sides of the IHS puts some dents on the side of the mounting plate where it met the corner of the IHS... in no way hurting performance.

no cracks, just a small dent...

I dont see how your mounting plate got cracked... it looks like you were playing catch on cement with it...
but it is nice that Danny replaced it.

I didn't hard mount mine and followed the instructions, but I get like rub marks on the fuzion base plate from the outer edge of the IHS. This happened on air cooling heatsinks as well though...I imagine my IHS is not flat and the edges are higher than the center. I put a razer blade across the IHS and it seemed pretty flat. Does this happen to anyone else?

Thanks,
Jared

[situman]

a friend of mine hardmounted his fuzion (no springs) tightened his fuzion down till he heard creaking sounds... unmounted the block, and the sides of the IHS puts some dents on the side of the mounting plate where it met the corner of the IHS... in no way hurting performance.

no cracks, just a small dent...

I dont see how your mounting plate got cracked... it looks like you were playing catch on cement with it...
but it is nice that Danny replaced it.

nah was playing frisbee wit it.:p:

[Grafton]

... should've played frisbee golf more fun

[pH(x)]

I am sticking to my guns and buying an Apogee GTX. Even though my last D-Tek waterblock performed like a dream I want the GTX for future builds (and less flow restriction). I hear it does better on Quad Core than any other block.

[Grafton]

are you going to get the copper to too?

[dr4gon]

I am sticking to my guns and buying an Apogee GTX. Even though my last D-Tek waterblock performed like a dream I want the GTX for future builds (and less flow restriction). I hear it does better on Quad Core than any other block.

you'd better get the copper top. otherwise you'd have other issues than slightly higher temps.

... dtek is coming out out with a new fuzion nozzle for quad cores....

[Linus@ncix]

The GTX is a good block, but the FuZion is less restrictive than the GTX.

If you're buying the GTX for less restriction, you may want to rethink your decision...

[iadstudio]

+1 for Fuzion instead of GTX. Unless they start shipping the GTX with copper top and a reasonable price tag, Fuzion is the choice for now. The new nozels should trump the GTX across the board. We'll see.

[gOtVoltage]

Hope this is clearer. Took me a good 10mins to get the pics. I have more but too lazy to resize and stuff. Danny from Dtek already sent me a new baseplate. I insisted on paying for the shipping and cost of the baseplate. I will be sending this back to him. I'm still curious as to how this happened as is its in the middle of the plate. Wonder if the convex nature of the base caused this. The crack or gouge is actually smaller than it looks in the picture.

All in all, I am satisfied. Dtek took care of me and I feel lots more secure

If the copper was flat then a huge Oring is pushing on copper ,Hmmm .Then you add IHS heat on one side and coolwater on the otherside of same sheet of copper ..Thus the pressure pushing on it from the Oring to make it bow will make the copper shrink and expand the Bow after Pc is turned on and off. This could explain the copper getting weak from Heatcycling of Pc and start cracking at the hotest ,weakest point when it goes from hot to cold... Copper being a soft metal can take heat in its natural form,but when you apply force to the flat copper surface that is now bowed the metal will start to tear over time ,from expansion and contraction of metal...i hope this makes sense to you guys..Its kinda hard to explain...All i know that it looked like heatcrack exspantions from the cooling heating cycle of PC...The copper expands from the core heat then shrinks when you turn it off with fairly cool water on the other side... If its bad batch of copper it can crack especially if there is pressure bowing it all the time...This will probally never happen with a WaterBlock that is flat with no bowing pressure ...It also something to think about seeing bowing bases is a few month old method...could be a sign...

Please tell me im wrong becuase i havnt picked a D-Tek up yet and i am stuck looking at a GTX with Copper top $ or D-Tek and not looking to bow which ever one i get..I really like the D-Tek and feel it wold cool my X2 6000+ better and it wieghs less than the GTX by a mile...

so please i hope im wrong...:yepp:

[The_Beast]

hmm that is pretty big, glad you got it fixed :)

[[XC] Kayin]

voltage, we don't bow AMD mounts. We don't need to. One thing they have right, at least...

[nealh]

a friend of mine hardmounted his fuzion (no springs) tightened his fuzion down till he heard creaking sounds... unmounted the block, and the sides of the IHS puts some dents on the side of the mounting plate where it met the corner of the IHS... in no way hurting performance.

no cracks, just a small dent...

I dont see how your mounting plate got cracked... it looks like you were playing catch on cement with it...
but it is nice that Danny replaced it.

Pretty normal IMHO..as copper is somewaht soft..I have these on my storm, MCW60 and Fuzion

[Martinm210]

When I received my Fuzion block from Petra's, I noticed that 1 pin was missing.
I thought it wasn't a big deal but still mailed Quoc about it.
He contacted Danny and I got a replacement baseplate, I didn't have to pay a thing. :up:

I'll have to retract my complaint, D-Tek did respond to me and they are taking care of it by sending me a new base as well free, I'm actually very impressed.:up:

I think I just got a bad one with a weak pin, although one pin doesn't amount to anything, I'm much happier about getting the replacement.

[gOtVoltage]

Kayin;2413752']voltage, we don't bow AMD mounts. We don't need to. One thing they have right, at least...

Cool i gotcha,, Iwas just curious my self and am curently going to retire my Apogge GT to a single core system and i am looking for the best bang for buck and that seems like D-Tek right now...when ever i research something i like to know why things fail or have failed before i buy them....That was the first ive seen on a waterblock cracking and it WILL NOT keep me from buying a D-tek, Thats a 1 in a million chance of a crack....But as i stated about bowing waterblocks,thats something to really think about . It made me think twice about bowing my soon to be replaced GT << Even though it happened on a non bowed block it makes me wonder what kinda stress a bowed one has... so end of this week ima gonna be grabbing a D-tek :up: ,theres just no competition for the price unless you want a aluminum/bowed block Hmmm, ya know what im talking about i hope:yepp: