Lapped Ultima 90

[NoSoMo]

Briefly w/ 220, went to 400, then spent a few minutes with 600. In all I spent about 15 minutes. Didn't bother with water, found it not needed.

Lapped the q6600 as well. Both took no more than 20 minutes each.

q6600 idle temps with Scythe 63.7 CFM are 31c with 23c ambient

Overall, the cooler is great. It's quite tall though, barely clears the door on my Antec 182b.

[NoSoMo]

Another shot

[BIKeINSTEIN]

Overall, the cooler is great. It's quite tall though, barely clears the door on my Antec 182b.
Because of the 120mm fan- makes it as tall as the TRUE120 or maybe more.:p:

Can you try the cooler with a 92mm fan like the recommended Panaflo medium speed 92x25 48cfm 30dbA one or the high speed 56.7cfm 35dbA one?:rolleyes:
If it works as good with a 92mm fan, then it will be a great cooler for anyone with cabby clearance issues.:)

I have already purchased some 92mm fans apart from all sorts of 120mms i already have, waiting for the ultima90 to arrive.:D

[ineedaname]

the 120mm fan does NOT make it bigger than the TRUE120.

The TRUE120 has a good 1.5cm over the 120mm fan.

btw

thx 4 the pics it looks great!!!
Lets see some results!!!

[LuckyNV]

the 120mm fan does NOT make it bigger than the TRUE120.

The TRUE120 has a good 1.5cm over the 120mm fan.

btw

thx 4 the pics it looks great!!!
Lets see some results!!!

unless i've mounted my fan incorrectly, the heatpipes ends themselves are only a few mm taller over the 120mm fan

edit my fan seems to be mounted about 3mm taller than most others, but still the Ultima90 is still tall if a 120mm fan is used.

[Boyler]

between u120ex and ultima90 which one do u think is better?

[M Diddy]

Also, what voltage are you running to the quad?

[BIKeINSTEIN]

NoSoMo- please measure the height of the ultima 90 from base to top of 120mm fan and post here.:)
(i mean the total height of the coooler with a 120mm fan so i can compare it to the height of the TR U120Ex aka TRUE120.)
Please.:p:

[NoSoMo]

Micrometer says it's just under 30mm. Photos give a better look...

Keep in mind guys, bigger isn't better. It's thermal dissipation that you’re after. Just because it takes a bigger fan, doesn’t mean it cools better. Obviously a larger version of this sink made of the same components would be better.

This thread has a good review…
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=137838

[NoSoMo]

Also, what voltage are you running to the quad?

I've been trying to tweak, but I think I'm having issues w/ my 680i. I've fed it 1.45v just to see what it'd do, and it ran about 60c under load. It had only been a few hrs since I put on the AS5 so I'll give it another day or so before I try again. I've noticed that there is a little air bleed off from the top of the fan, I may do a test to seal it off and see if it forces more air into the sink.

[M Diddy]

I've been trying to tweak, but I think I'm having issues w/ my 680i. I've fed it 1.45v just to see what it'd do, and it ran about 60c under load. It had only been a few hrs since I put on the AS5 so I'll give it another day or so before I try again. I've noticed that there is a little air bleed off from the top of the fan, I may do a test to seal it off and see if it forces more air into the sink.


60 C at 1.45!!!! :shocked: My TR 120 X loads at 61 C at only 1.35 set in BIOS. Of course, I haven't had the need to go higher then that give it runs all day at 3.4 Ghz that way. If I put the side of TT Tsunami on that'll rise to 65C.... I've lapped both CPU and HS to a flat finish as well.... Something's not right here..... Grats though!

[M Diddy]

Nos, one other quick question... What TIM do you use and how do you apply it? I'm starting to think the mounting system for this 120 is really THAT bad....

[NoSoMo]

I use AS5, and just barely put it on. The mount could use improvement, but I'm not going to really look at temps and what not until I get me a new board.

Not sure what's up with this one, but I'm getting another--thinking striker extreme.

[awhir]

my tunqi lapped doesnt go over 44c on load at 1.55v but that is at stock :)

long story.....

[BIKeINSTEIN]

One thing to keep in mind when ordering the Thermalright Ultima-90 concerns the fan that will have to be ordered for it. I just received my Ultima-90 and found that the fan mounting clips only work with 1" thick fans; they hold the fan by the outside edge of the fan and not by the inside edge as the other Thermalright heatsinks do. I want to use either a 90mm or 120mm fan on the heatsink that are both 1.5" thick. I am going to have to come up with a way to attach the heatsink other than using the stock mounting clips. Especially since Thermalright support indicates that they only have the stock clip and nothing else that would hold the thicker fan. Why they didn't design the mounting clip to hold the fan in the "normal" position I cannot fathom.

By the way, if anyone has used a thicker fan and has a method of attaching it to the heatsink please let me know. Right now I am planning on using the standard wire clips with plastic ties. Or spacers of the proper length screwed onto the fan to provide mounting holes at the required 1" distance to allow use of the provided clips.
Pardon me for this.

I was looking at ultima pics and esp at the top where the fan holes are.
I think it has another set of holes to attach anoher fan.:rolleyes:
Also was trying to figure out the width of the fan and the distance between the 2 locations for inserting the wire clips on the cooler.:p:

NoSoMo- Will you please try this?:)
Use the wireclips in the other set of fan holes to mount the same fan in the same position- esp the 92 mm ones.
Will this allow the wire clips to grab the inner edge of the fan?:confused:

[Start]

my tunqi lapped doesnt go over 44c on load at 1.55v but that is at stock :)

long story.....

Everyone here is talking about quad cores, you are on a dual core...

[NoSoMo]

Pardon me for this.

I was looking at ultima pics and esp at the top where the fan holes are.
I think it has another set of holes to attach anoher fan.:rolleyes:
Also was trying to figure out the width of the fan and the distance between the 2 locations for inserting the wire clips on the cooler.:p:

NoSoMo- Will you please try this?:)
Use the wireclips in the other set of fan holes to mount the same fan in the same position- esp the 92 mm ones.
Will this allow the wire clips to grab the inner edge of the fan?:confused:

Yes, a 92mm fan can be mounted at the same time using the other holes and the 92mm fan mounting clips. I was thinking about adding once I get down to testing. Any suggestions on a good 92mm fan?

[NoSoMo]

60 C at 1.45!!!! :shocked: My TR 120 X loads at 61 C at only 1.35 set in BIOS. Of course, I haven't had the need to go higher then that give it runs all day at 3.4 Ghz that way. If I put the side of TT Tsunami on that'll rise to 65C.... I've lapped both CPU and HS to a flat finish as well.... Something's not right here..... Grats though!

I've got a new board coming, and I will be posting how it all turns out. It'll probably be a new thread in the Intel section, but I will reference it in this post. That heat sink is great, lacks on mounting, but I may be able to fix that myself...I do have a machine shop in the garage :up: . I was thiking about making my own sink too.

I may re-lap both the processor and the heat sink when I swap boards....I'm thinking a gold plating would be interesting to add....perhaps I will... :D

[Morais]

buddy, try to get a 800 and a 1200 grit....you can get a small improvement in cooling and will look flat

[NoSoMo]

buddy, try to get a 800 and a 1200 grit....you can get a small improvement in cooling and will look flat

:rolleyes: I'm not going for shine. Shine adds ZERO to performance. Besides, a couple microns of gold will smooth the surface over quite well. Anything above 600 is PURELY cosmetic. Heat cares not how the CPU looks. I could break out a polishing cloth and turn it into a mirror, but again, it serves no purpose. It's flat, period.

[troisanh]

:rolleyes: I'm not going for shine. Shine adds ZERO to performance. Besides, a couple microns of gold will smooth the surface over quite well. Anything above 600 is PURELY cosmetic. Heat cares not how the CPU looks. I could break out a polishing cloth and turn it into a mirror, but again, it serves no purpose. It's flat, period.

agreed, anything who thinks shiny=good should fine a new hobby.

[enz660]

agreed, anything who thinks shiny=good should fine a new hobby.

I disagree. Despite the lack of any performance gain from a shiny lap, some people do it for the looks.

[NoSoMo]

I disagree. Despite the lack of any performance gain from a shiny lap, some people do it for the looks.

Right up until ya throw the grease all over it :shrug:

[BIKeINSTEIN]

Yes, a 92mm fan can be mounted at the same time using the other holes and the 92mm fan mounting clips. I was thinking about adding once I get down to testing. Any suggestions on a good 92mm fan?
I am sorry i couldn't explain it better.:(

What i meant is the ultima90 clips grab the fan by its outer edge unlike other TR heatsinks where the fans were held by the innder edge.
This allowed use of fans of any thickness which ain't possible with the Ultima.
Only 25mm thick fans can be used.:(

So looking at the reach of the wire clip till the outer edge of the 25 mm fan, the distance between the 2 sets of clip holes on the cooler, i was wondering if the other set of clip holes could be used to make the wire clips grab the inner edge of the same fan.
If that is possible then one can use thicker fans-0 as thickness of the fan won'yt matter then.

I hope i did ok this time.:p:

Here is what BattleRattle who reviewed the ultima ES had to say >
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2386354#post2386354

I get most of my fans from sidewinders as they ship to India.
Getting good coolers and fans here used to be very difficult until recently.
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/92mmfans.html

Looking at the case you have, the fan you used for testing the ultima, i don't think you prefer noise.:p:
Then a decent, not noisy 92mm fan for 24x7 use is the Panaflo 48cfm 30dbA 92x25mm medium speed fan that's recommended for use with most TR 92mm coolers.:)
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/pa92mesp.html

I have the same and a High speed 35dbA 56cfm version of the same as i can't hear it outside a closed case, especially over the ambient noise here.:ROTF:
But weird thing is the 92mm 35dbA fan seems louder than my 120mm 35dbA panaflo.:nuts:
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/pa92hisp.html
I also got this Delta EFB 92x38mm one as its good cfm at roughly 5W- so that i can run it on my 5W homemade fan controller- just for checking the effect of cfm on the ultima and ultra90.
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/de92trblhisp.html
Wanted to see how effective the bent winglets on the ultra90 are and if it gains from more cfm within practical levels of noise, and if i could concur the same for the Ultra120/Ultra120X.:p:

But the clips of teh ultima won't allow the 38mm thickness.
Heence i asked that weird query.
Will also check if teh XP-90 wireclips will allow what i thought of.:P

[apexracing]

Keep in mind that even when fans are rated for the same decibels, the type of noise can be different. I had a 92mm Thermaltake fan rated for 48db a while back, it made the most deafening roar, very irritating.
In contrast, the Delta 92mm rated for 46db, which I have now, is just a smooth airflow sound.

I'm getting the Ultima-90 soon, as well. I've got a few different 120mm and 92mm fans to test with. I will report on what on what size fans can be fitted.

[NoSoMo]

I am sorry i couldn't explain it better.:(

What i meant is the ultima90 clips grab the fan by its outer edge unlike other TR heatsinks where the fans were held by the innder edge.
This allowed use of fans of any thickness which ain't possible with the Ultima.
Only 25mm thick fans can be used.:(

So looking at the reach of the wire clip till the outer edge of the 25 mm fan, the distance between the 2 sets of clip holes on the cooler, i was wondering if the other set of clip holes could be used to make the wire clips grab the inner edge of the same fan.
If that is possible then one can use thicker fans-0 as thickness of the fan won'yt matter then.

I hope i did ok this time.:p:

Here is what BattleRattle who reviewed the ultima ES had to say >
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2386354#post2386354

I get most of my fans from sidewinders as they ship to India.
Getting good coolers and fans here used to be very difficult until recently.
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/92mmfans.html

Looking at the case you have, the fan you used for testing the ultima, i don't think you prefer noise.:p:
Then a decent, not noisy 92mm fan for 24x7 use is the Panaflo 48cfm 30dbA 92x25mm medium speed fan that's recommended for use with most TR 92mm coolers.:)
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/pa92mesp.html

I have the same and a High speed 35dbA 56cfm version of the same as i can't hear it outside a closed case, especially over the ambient noise here.:ROTF:
But weird thing is the 92mm 35dbA fan seems louder than my 120mm 35dbA panaflo.:nuts:
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/pa92hisp.html
I also got this Delta EFB 92x38mm one as its good cfm at roughly 5W- so that i can run it on my 5W homemade fan controller- just for checking the effect of cfm on the ultima and ultra90.
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/de92trblhisp.html
Wanted to see how effective the bent winglets on the ultra90 are and if it gains from more cfm within practical levels of noise, and if i could concur the same for the Ultra120/Ultra120X.:p:

But the clips of teh ultima won't allow the 38mm thickness.
Heence i asked that weird query.
Will also check if teh XP-90 wireclips will allow what i thought of.:P

The difference between the holes is 30mm.

Hope that helps

[celemine1Gig]

Keep in mind that even when fans are rated for the same decibels, the type of noise can be different. I had a 92mm Thermaltake fan rated for 48db a while back, it made the most deafening roar, very irritating.
In contrast, the Delta 92mm rated for 46db, which I have now, is just a smooth airflow sound.

I'm getting the Ultima-90 soon, as well. I've got a few different 120mm and 92mm fans to test with. I will report on what on what size fans can be fitted.


Besides the fact that there's NO common measuring practice that all fan-manufacturers use to rate their fans:

You do know that decibels measurements are not linear, but logarithmic? 2dB is a big difference. :up:

But, I have to agree in one thing: Fan sounds can be very different, even if the measured dB are really the same.

[BIKeINSTEIN]

Besides the fact that there's NO common measuring practice that all fan-manufacturers use to rate their fans:

You do know that decibels measurements are not linear, but logarithmic? 2dB is a big difference. :up:

But, I have to agree in one thing: Fan sounds can be very different, even if the measured dB are really the same.
Hmmm...
That's what i was saying.:)
My Panaflo high speed 92x25mm 35dbA fan seems louder than my Panaflo Medium speed 120x38mm 35dbA fan.
Both are Panaflo and both are rated 35dbA but the 92mm seems louder.:p:

[stealthbomber]

That's probably due to the fan profile 25mm vs 38mm, the latter size fans probably has wider blades thus normally swift more air at lower dB.