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rdmty

07-24-2007, 02:04 PM

Since everyone's on the lookout for the g0 Q6600, I thought I'd start a thread to collect information for everyone.

Here's the batch numbers:
SL9UM (B3)
SLACR (G0)

Let us know

where you purchased it
when you purchsed it
which stepping you got

ncixus.com / ncix.com (http://ncixus.com/products/22211/BX80562Q6600/Intel/)

Where most users are getting their g0's, no official guarantee of g0, but *most* of their stock is g0 (some b3 floating around)

ClubIT.com (http://clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=CA1938452&nav=1)

Now guaranteed G0 in stock? (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=153878)
Guarantee G0, but need to place a phone order (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2332544&postcount=139)

Mwave.com (http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA23383&RSKU=BA23383)

July 22 - B3 - killert (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2329065&postcount=37)

TigerDirect

?? - B3 - Jonnio (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2333447&postcount=157)

ZipZoomFly

July 20?? - B3 - Andypro1 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2333923&postcount=169)
July 27 - G0 - Allan0n (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2348670&postcount=302)
July 28 - G0 - Lepy (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2349055&postcount=310)

DMH

07-24-2007, 02:19 PM

There's already a thread like this;) mod please move to the other thread

TEDY

07-24-2007, 02:36 PM

ALL Q6600 in SLOVENIJA are damn B3.

rdmty

07-24-2007, 02:42 PM

There's already a thread like this;) mod please move to the other thread

Oops, my bad, where's the other thread?

feverinlove

07-24-2007, 03:03 PM

ALL Q6600 in SLOVENIJA are damn B3.

Same thing in Turkey. I don't know if I should just go ahead and buy the B3...

ruff97

07-24-2007, 03:06 PM

Newegg.com
Sat night
SL9UM (B3)

dab420

07-24-2007, 03:16 PM

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
S/N: BX80562Q6600SLACR
Shipped: 07-23-07 02:45 PM
Ordered from NCIX.com (Canada) on July 20, 2007

Xilikon

07-24-2007, 03:33 PM

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
S/N: BX80562Q6600SLACR
Shipped: 07-23-07 02:45 PM
Ordered from NCIX.com (Canada) on July 20, 2007

Same here but ordered on july 21, 2007 in my case :)

IntruderII

07-24-2007, 03:36 PM

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
S/N: BX80562Q6600SLACR
Shipped: 07-23-07 02:45 PM
Ordered from NCIX.com (Canada) on July 20, 2007

Do you live in America or Canada? Not sure if that would make a difference anyway, though

dab420

07-24-2007, 03:39 PM

NCIX US uses the same warehouse, but yeah I live in Canada. I have a Premier Partner account with NCIX (not that it helped, I payed the same as everyone else that hit the sale on friday night)

Xilikon

07-24-2007, 03:40 PM

I live in Canada as well.

lee63

07-24-2007, 04:33 PM

This is G0, correct ?????? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819115027 :shrug:

IntruderII

07-24-2007, 04:42 PM

This is G0, correct ?????? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819115027 :shrug:

Yes

lee63

07-24-2007, 04:43 PM

YesWith a multi of 10 ???? :up:

Brother Esau

07-24-2007, 04:45 PM

Mine showed up Today B3 Stepping from Mwave but still have G0 pre Order Pending at Tank Guys:D

Capt_Caveman

07-24-2007, 05:04 PM

Damn, NCIX wants over $20 for shipping to the US.

Dynasty

07-24-2007, 05:10 PM

Q6600 G0's will be SLACR
Q6700 G0's will be SLACQ

IntruderII

07-24-2007, 05:11 PM

Q6700 G0's will be SLACQ

Doesn't really matter since all Q6700 are being manufactured with G0.

Lome

07-24-2007, 05:12 PM

Damn, NCIX wants over $20 for shipping to the US.

ncixus.com?

Dynasty

07-24-2007, 05:19 PM

Doesn't really matter since all Q6700 are being manufactured with G0.

I know that, but its still good to know sSpec # on them incase they do
different stepping down the road to q6700's....
as it originated as an QX6700 SL9UL, get what im saying....;)

good example would be the QX6800 as it is available for
both B3 & G0
SL9UK = B3
SLACP = G0

Capt_Caveman

07-24-2007, 05:49 PM

ncixus.com?

Yes. Just for the Q6600 which is $295, my shipping options are:

CanadaPost Xpress USA $20.94
FedEx Economy Air USA $26.64
FedEx Priority Air USA $29.49

Dynasty

07-24-2007, 05:51 PM

xpresspost to u.s takes anywhere from 3-5 days so you know....

dinos22

07-24-2007, 05:54 PM

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
S/N: BX80562Q6600SLACR
Shipped: 07-23-07 02:45 PM
Ordered from NCIX.com (Canada) on July 20, 2007

really

make sure you post here when you get the chip

and did they have this reference on the website BX80562Q6600SLACR
or was that after you ordered

dab420

07-24-2007, 05:57 PM

Dinos, I pulled that reference from the shipping email.
I ordered the Q6600 with no indication of which chip I would receive, only went on word of mouth that I would get a G0. The grapevine was right though! :)

The Nemesis

07-24-2007, 06:04 PM

really

make sure you post here when you get the chip

and did they have this reference on the website BX80562Q6600SLACR
or was that after you ordered

Rumor has it, all their q6600's are G0. There's a thread about it here and in their forums,

rdmty

07-24-2007, 06:06 PM

Yeah it seems that NCIX.com and NCIXUS.com have been where most people are getting their g0 Q6600s

dinos22

07-24-2007, 06:12 PM

Rumor has it, all their q6600's are G0. There's a thread about it here and in their forums,

yeah i just saw the thread

man i must say i am disappointed in myself for even posting that first ES Q6600 thread with 3.9GHz stable G0s

these ones in comparison are total dogs :shakes:

from what i can see one guy has his at 3.4Ghz 1.37v which is still ok but that is waaaay off the ES chip i posted about and the one Pi1t also has from france too CRIES

voltaire2030

07-24-2007, 06:53 PM

NCIX
I received a G0 :D

Linus@ncix

07-24-2007, 09:51 PM

Yeah it seems that NCIX.com and NCIXUS.com have been where most people are getting their g0 Q6600s

That's because we're awesome :cool:

michaLcoughliN

07-24-2007, 10:33 PM

ncix is awesome :D

just spent $1700 with ncix :D

dinos22

07-24-2007, 10:53 PM

That's because we're awesome :cool:

ROFL :rofl: good one Mr.NCIXman

what no NCIXAU.com.au(Australia)? :p:

96redformula

07-24-2007, 11:27 PM

Damn, NCIX wants over $20 for shipping to the US.

How is this for fast shipping from NCIX ?? 18 hours from CANADA to the Texas-Mexico Border :) . Well worth $25 to ship to me across the whole country.

Confirmed by representatives. All their stock is now g0 stepping.

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/1804/fastbu3.jpg

ExodusC

07-24-2007, 11:33 PM

Ordered mine from ClubIT. Haven't got it yet, but apparently someone called them up and said their stock is B3. Will get back to you guys whenever it gets here though...

ChaosMinionX

07-25-2007, 12:53 AM

I think the egg shipped me a B3....will find out on the 25th, I should have opted for the non ghetto delivery....:rolleyes:

Brother Esau

07-25-2007, 01:02 AM

LOL......ChaosMinionX whats up?:welcome:

ChaosMinionX

07-25-2007, 01:10 AM

LOL......ChaosMinionX whats up?:welcome:

Not a whole lot, where you been hiding?

PM me :)

killert

07-25-2007, 01:13 AM

Mwave.com
July 22
B3 :(

Xilikon

07-25-2007, 05:31 AM

yeah i just saw the thread

man i must say i am disappointed in myself for even posting that first ES Q6600 thread with 3.9GHz stable G0s

these ones in comparison are total dogs :shakes:

from what i can see one guy has his at 3.4Ghz 1.37v which is still ok but that is waaaay off the ES chip i posted about and the one Pi1t also has from france too CRIES

I'm the guy you are talking about... I'm motherboard limited (Bad Axe 2 not able to run quads over 9x390), not cpu limited so I'm getting a different one to push it higher since I'm feeling there is still a lot of headroom left.

jeffyjaixx

07-25-2007, 07:26 AM

NCIX Canada.

Ordered yesterday @ like 3 PM EST, got it this morning 9 AM EST. ;)

It's a SLACR, so G0 confirmed! Will test later after work.

FPO/Batch #: L723A765

Same as some other people who got it from NCIX.

genec57

07-25-2007, 08:16 AM

For those who might be interested Newegg now has the Q6700 in stock all of which are GO.
Mine is on the way.

nicepun

07-25-2007, 08:47 AM

I've been NCIXed!!! LOL Awaiting arrival!! LOL

For those who might be interested Newegg now has the Q6700 in stock all of which are GO.
Mine is on the way.

But that's twice the price for the Q6600, no thank you.

96redformula

07-25-2007, 08:50 AM

I will have mine in less than 1 hour and will get to testing ASAP.

96redformula

07-25-2007, 08:52 AM

LOL, doorbell rang 1 minute later :) .

chriskurn

07-25-2007, 08:56 AM

I just ordered a Q6600 from ncixus.com I hope it is G0.

$323 Shipped, I little high because of shipping.

96redformula

07-25-2007, 09:04 AM

Results will be coming later, I am getting to testing my G0 ASAP.

ChronoReverse

07-25-2007, 09:50 AM

G0 here from NCIX (Canada) as well. NCIX does indeed rock.

I'll be testing out OC'ing after I've burned this in. Idle temps of 40, Small FFT Load temps of 60.

situman

07-25-2007, 09:58 AM

Is that a good price for the Q6700? More than double the price of a q6600 seems kind of absurd.

synergy

07-25-2007, 10:54 AM

What's the "MM: xxxxxxx" number on the label
of a RETAIL BOX Q6600 Rev. G0?

I see in an Intel Document:
MM: 891049
But I am not sure if that's the OEM CPU or what since
the other codes listed in there for the older B3 revision
doesn't match what I've seen on labels for the B3.

I assume the rest is:
Prod Code: BX80562Q6600SLACR

Thanks!

nicepun

07-25-2007, 11:02 AM

dab420

07-25-2007, 11:08 AM

[snip] I little high because of shipping.

Yeah, the intoxicating scent of foam shipping pellets really gets me going too.. ;)

I got my G0 from NCIX this morning. Purolator guy actually showed up before noon for once! :D Just getting the test bench ready now, should have some numbers this evening for you kids. I might end up being motherboard limited, my P5W DH Deluxe is the first one to get this Q chip, but it's had problems with higher FSB's for me in the past (E6400 testing, E6600 testing).

zoob

07-25-2007, 12:07 PM

Bleh I just splurged on a Q6600 from NCIX. Oh boy. Time to liquidate all my extra hardware :)

hecktic

07-25-2007, 12:16 PM

That's because we're awesome :cool:

hahaha yeah that is true.... you guys rock!

ty for the tips on G0 at your inventory.

Bleh I just splurged on a Q6600 from NCIX. Oh boy.
Time to liquidate all my extra hardware :)

good luck water cooling. post results :)

lefy

07-25-2007, 06:23 PM

is ncixus.com shipping B3, or do that send mostly G0 too? I'm going to order tonight, and i'll probably go ncix.com if I can't find any confirmations about ncixus.com ... I'm in the USA if that matters

idiotekniQues

07-25-2007, 06:54 PM

FYI i ordered a Q6600 today at 4pm EST.

my tracking number i just got now at 9:40pm ESt shows SLACR so it is G0.

Speed4life

07-25-2007, 07:01 PM

Just got my shipping info from ncix.com It is a G0 stepping.

Barcode: 22211 156996 248 S/N: BX80562Q6600SLACR 07-24-07 10:42 PM

Will be here by 1030am. Thanx NCIX. You guys ROCK. NewEgg Who?

Ashraf

07-25-2007, 07:04 PM

NewEgg Who?

Your future lover.

Capt_Caveman

07-25-2007, 07:05 PM

MADMAX22

07-25-2007, 07:14 PM

Read the whole thread.

Yeah but they have not confirmed that they are all G0 and in another thread someone from the US just got a B3.

lefy

07-25-2007, 07:23 PM

Read the whole thread.
i read the thread. i just read it again because i assumed you saw something i didn't. nobody in this thread has confirmed that they received a G0 from ncixus.com ... and that's why i asked the question.

either way, it seems pretty obvious that the safer bet is to just order from canada. lots of G0 confirmed, no B3 reported from there.

dab420

07-25-2007, 07:24 PM

[snip]either way, it seems pretty obvious that the safer bet is to just order from canada. lots of G0 confirmed, no B3 reported from there.

There have been some B3's reported today.

http://forum.ncix.com/forums/index.php?mode=showthread&forum=116&threadid=1391613&pagenumber=1&msgcount=2&subpage=1

lefy

07-25-2007, 07:31 PM

There have been some B3's reported today.

http://forum.ncix.com/forums/index.php?mode=showthread&forum=116&threadid=1391613&pagenumber=1&msgcount=2&subpage=1
aw damn, that blows my plan.

well, since we're reporting stuff.. I picked up a B3 from Fry's, Freemont yesterday. They had a promotional combo sale (cheap mobo) in store. They also had over 100 units. No clue as to whether any might be G0. They couldn't go cherry pick from the cage for me since they were closing. I'll return this B3 if I find a place that guarantees G0 before my 30 day return window closes

Capt_Caveman

07-25-2007, 07:36 PM

i read the thread. i just read it again because i assumed you saw something i didn't. nobody in this thread has confirmed that they received a G0 from ncixus.com ... and that's why i asked the question.

either way, it seems pretty obvious that the safer bet is to just order from canada. lots of G0 confirmed, no B3 reported from there.

People that have received them here are from the US. NCIX and NCIXUS ship all of their products from the same warehouses in Canada.

Click on the Check Stock button on NCIXUS and you'll see all of the warehouses are in Canada.

palese

07-25-2007, 08:51 PM

That's because we're awesome :cool:

No your not :rolleyes: I was assured a G0 stepping was shipped to me and in fact was told G0 stepping was all ncix had, well ncix has shipped me a B3:rolleyes: If I did not call ncix before placing the order I would understand this, but when I am told by ncix that G0 is all they have in stock and this is what I would receive then this is not awesome service:down:

Brother Esau

07-25-2007, 09:13 PM

:dammit: :cord: :cord: :gay:

hecktic

07-25-2007, 09:19 PM

If ncix is no longer doing B3s which would mean that staff member someone said that informed the customer of all stock being G0s, lied!.. maybe by mistake but still its quit obvious everyone is after G0 so they should have made sure when they said "all stock is G0" that it is in fact all_G0 and NOT B3.

This plus the price increase today from $288 to $297 or so is not good.

Looks like TankGuys is the only place now to get a guaranteed G0. Am I right?

Also just for kicks, if someone was to get a QX chip it would be best to stick with G0 right? Is B3 lower temps (as most are reporting) worth it on a QX chip?

ss256

07-25-2007, 09:44 PM

G0 Q6600 from NCIX on its way here, hope it overclocks well with a D-TEK Fuzion. I'll post results when I can. Thanks NCIX :D

nicepun

07-25-2007, 10:10 PM

Oh man, I'm gonna be really mad if I get a B3.

Brother Esau

07-25-2007, 10:25 PM

Personally I would B*tch and B*tch hard and make them cross ship you a new CPU with G0 Stepping as that is very dishonest and inapropriate to tell a customer one thing and assure them that they have verified that it is indeed G0 Stepping and then send you something completely different like B3 Stepping Get on the Horn and give it to them Lefty....I would!!!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:

aka1nas

07-25-2007, 10:29 PM

palese

07-25-2007, 10:33 PM

dinos22

07-25-2007, 10:35 PM

nicepun

07-25-2007, 10:45 PM

We can't guarantee stepping for obvious reasons. Suppliers have a mix of stock, we don't control what stepping they ship us. Every stepping, revision, etc goes under one part number in a suppliers database, one part number in our database. Every supplier is shipping a mix of steppings, and considering there is a North American shortage on the processors we aren't going to hand pick processors and refuse delivery from our vendors. It's always a luck of the draw scenario. One not so wise distributor put the stepping in their description, but I can tell you right now they are not shipping G0's in every order so there are ZERO authorized Intel distributor's who can ship any specific stepping. Even large scale system integrators such as Dell or HP have zero say in what stepping they receive for their tray product.

Here you go guys, not a guaranteed so we'll see what happens. Mine has shipped so I'm debating wether I should canx since it's not a guarantee that I'll get a G0.

ChaosMinionX

07-25-2007, 10:45 PM

Im still waiting for the headlines "Man was told he was receiving a G0 over phone, gets B3 in mail, goes to etailers headquarters and kills everyone."

People are rampant about specifics right now haha, and we dont even know too much about them in terms of overclocking, and as of now most temperature programs are not reading G0 steppings right, people on air cooling with temps below ambient? cmon

EDIT: We do know however, that a "few" cherry chips have been clocking 3.6ghz+ on some decent voltage, but I wouldnt place that in the realm of indefinately better than B3.

Brother Esau

07-25-2007, 10:51 PM

i hate customers like this ^^^^^^^^^ :p: :D

In that case you can buy my B3 under the pretence that its a G0 and we will call it a day seeing how you don't mind getting nixed and all:D

And while you are at it...throw in a extra $50.00 just because I am me!

dinos22

07-25-2007, 10:53 PM

In that case you can buy my B3 under the pretence that its a G0 and we will call it a day seeing how you don't mind getting nixed and all:D

the problem is that people lie to get their way..........there was never a guarantee as far as i can see from above post ;) :D

Brother Esau

07-25-2007, 10:55 PM

I know what you are saying Dino but if that was my business I would not tollerate that sh*t from my employees to my customers sale or no sale you're reputation is more important!:)

strange|ife

07-25-2007, 10:58 PM

I'm the guy you are talking about... I'm motherboard limited (Bad Axe 2 not able to run quads over 9x390), not cpu limited so I'm getting a different one to push it higher since I'm feeling there is still a lot of headroom left.

that is a very nice board. i wouldnt worry.

390x9 on a quad is nothing to sneeze at

sure higher FSB would be ideal, but still.

The Nemesis

07-25-2007, 11:02 PM

Here you go guys, not a guaranteed so we'll see what happens. Mine has shipped so I'm debating wether I should canx since it's not a guarantee that I'll get a G0.

Have you received your email " your order has been shipped"? It contains an invoice that shows the serial as S/N: BX80562Q6600SLACR.

NoSinder

07-25-2007, 11:14 PM

AWESEOME! Just got my "Your order has shipped!" email from NCIX.

SKU Description Qty
1. 22211 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Kentsfield 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 8MB Retail Box 1

Barcode: 22211 156996 500 S/N: BX80562Q6600SLACR 07-25-07 04:11 PM

G0 FTW!.

strange|ife

07-25-2007, 11:19 PM

0
NCIXUS
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Kentsfield 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 8MB Retail Box 1
Barcode: 22233 256956 475 S/N: BX80562Q6600SLACR 07-25-07 03:17 PM

i went ground shipping, so its just a waiting game now

was 19 bucks for shipping, a tad high for my taste, but was worth it. They lowred the price down to 289 now lol. whatever.

i will take a pic of the box once if arrives.

palese

07-25-2007, 11:28 PM

the problem is that people lie to get their way..........there was never a guarantee as far as i can see from above post ;) :D

Yes I was guaranteed a G0 , and this is why I made the effort to call first, if she simply said im sorry but we have no controll over what is sent then fine I move on, but this is no different then the buy.com scam.

It's bait and switch when she opened her mouth and made the guarantee :fact:

dinos22

07-25-2007, 11:29 PM

Yes I was guaranteed a G0 , and this is why I made the effort to call first, if she simply said im sorry but we have no controll over what is sent then fine I move on, but this is no different then the buy.com scam.

It's bait and switch when she opened her mouth and made the guarantee :fact:

hey i didn't mean you lied or anything
it was just a general comment....sorry if you thought otherwise

if he promised he's gotta deliver

i can however tell you that when people want something and are in a position to demand it they will lie in as high as 75% instances.......that's retail business for ya

palese

07-25-2007, 11:47 PM

hey i didn't mean you lied or anything
it was just a general comment....sorry if you thought otherwise

if he promised he's gotta deliver

i can however tell you that when people want something and are in a position to demand it they will lie in as high as 75% instances.......that's retail business for ya

No that's cool I did not take offence to your reply:up:

96redformula

07-25-2007, 11:50 PM

I have a g0 to drool over :yepp: . I am going to post a full review tomorrow. Lets just say the mid point is 3400 @ 1.325

Linus@ncix

07-26-2007, 12:55 AM

No your not :rolleyes: I was assured a G0 stepping was shipped to me and in fact was told G0 stepping was all ncix had, well ncix has shipped me a B3:rolleyes: If I did not call ncix before placing the order I would understand this, but when I am told by ncix that G0 is all they have in stock and this is what I would receive then this is not awesome service:down:

Rather than assume that we've short-changed you intentionally, it may have been a good idea to wait 'til morning and give us a call and see if we can figure out what went wrong.

Posting all over the internet about how you've been bait&switched (which you haven't by the way...) is not an appropriate way to tackle this problem.

We do not sort items by serial number. Only by part number. It's completely impossible for our system to have intentionally selected a B3 for you.

I don't know who you talked to who assured you that all of our stock was G0, but if you called a retail store (and there are no females answering the phones at our shipping warehouse), then it's VERY possible that they have all G0 at that particular retail location.

There are people on this forum suggesting that sniveling and complaining about things is the best way to get a problem solved.

Here's a valuable tip: treat people like you would want to be treated. Calling in whining loudly complaining about something is NOT going to get you better service. There is a person on the other end of the phone with the power to help you and if you want them to help you, it's a good idea to be nice about it.

I've flagged this post for someone to have a look at. I'm sure we will find a way to get this problem resolved so that you're a happy customer. Just try to be patient and we'll do what we can for you. Whomever you talked to shouldn't have assured you of that, and even if she did, she may have been right, and she may have assumed that if you're calling a retail location that you're planning to come to the retail location.

synergy

07-26-2007, 01:04 AM

zoob

07-26-2007, 01:11 AM

Do you guys realize you can put special instructions in the ordering stage as well? I requested one with a SLACR label. Seems to have delayed my order but I don't mind.

Linus@ncix

07-26-2007, 01:17 AM

Well I WAS going to order one from NCIX, but after
the G0->B3 switch fiascos, and other vendors being
even more clueless, I guess I'll just wait until I can walk
into a local shop and see what I'm buying in person
since evidentally all the high tech inventory control
systems / databases out there are apparently incapable
of keeping track of one little extra detail.

I think it's RIDICULOUS that vendors won't / don't
keep track of things like stepping and make that
available to the consumer and customer service / order
processing.

INTEL went to great lengths to DISTINGUISH the
steppings.

There's a BIG LABEL on the box, and one etched in metal
right on the CPU.

Right on the LABEL:
PROD CODE: BX80562Q6600SLACR
vs.
PROD CODE: BX80562Q6600SL9UM

They also have different 'MM' numbers on the label.

So Intel seems to think it's a different PROD CODE, so
there's no reason for the VENDORS not to do the same!

It's like having a BLACK ANTEC SONATA vs. a WHITE
ANTEC SONATA, yeah, sure, the same basic product model,
but with a DIFFERENCE that's important to keep track
of in inventory / stocking / ordering!

How hard can it be to put the MM number and PROD CODE
and maybe the other stuff already on the INTEL LABEL
into your inventory database?

It's like not keeping track of what ram is PC6400 and
what RAM is PC5300 because "well they're both 2GB sticks
from Corsair, so, who cares, they're compatible!!??".

I honestly wish that it was as simple as all this, but unfortunately, when we order a product from a distributor, they ship however many we ordered of a particular part number. Everything in this industry is tracked by part number. A part number is easily scanned and doesn't change often.

When Intel ships these processors to a distributor, they ship a particular part number. There might be B3s, or G0s or any mixture of the two. It's not guaranteed. If it's not guaranteed from Intel, it's not guaranteed from us. For all we know, we could get a skid of CPUs 99% of which are G0, but there could still be some B3s in there that are leftover inventory from our supplier, or from Intel themselves.

You have to understand that NCIX has many employees, and not all of them are hardware enthusiasts who know or care about processor steppings.

Your parallel to the white/black case and the Corsair RAM is fundamentally flawed. Those items would have a different part number because they are (in the manufacturer's eyes) a different product. To Intel, a Q6600 is a Q6600. We order Q6600s, they ship them. They could be B3 or G0 or whatever else Intel decides to slap that part number on.

Another thing is that you assume that a product code is important to stocking/ordering. It isn't. Only the part number is. If we sent an order to a major distributor asking for only boxes that have "SLACR" at the end of the serial number they'd say "are you nuts???". Likewise if they sent such a request to Intel, they would be simply told "we don't know. You can check when you get the shipment if you want".

Just because something is a different product code does not mean that the manufacturer considers it a different product. "Silent revisions" are very common in this industry.

Hopefully I have been able to address some of your confusion regarding part numbers and product codes. Please let me know if you have any other questions.

synergy

07-26-2007, 02:53 AM

I honestly wish that it was as simple as all this, but unfortunately, when we order a product from a distributor, they ship however many we ordered of a particular part number.

Yes, I understand that just as your company may not
implement an ordering process that easily allows
selection by certain product criteria, other companies
who may be your indirect suppliers possibly don't either.

One could use that justification all the way up the
chain of distribution / channel until you get to INTEL
who DOES really make it quite easy to distinguish
and 100% certainly keeps the information in THEIR
inventory control / fulfillment databases. They send out
PCNs / Product Change Notifications and must keep
supplying very specific revisions to customers that have
dependence on one revision or another until the customer
agrees to change, or the purchase contract expires, or
the product is END-OF-LIFE.

However it's no unusual thing to keep track of multiple
attributes of a single model of product. In the IC
distribution business for ICs not sold directly to
consumers one can very typically select / purchase
by:
Part model
Individual Package Type
Temperature range
Lot code
Packaging (Tape & Reel, tray, tube, etc. etc.)
and about ten other factors.

Intel did the right thing and made it possible for any/all
subsidiary customers to get information about the
particular product(s) revisions / lot numbers / date
codes / serial numbers / PROD CODE / MM Number
etc. And it's just a choice of the recipients (e.g. resellers/
distributors/customers) if they want to IGNORE the
information they're presented with or not.

Everything in this industry is tracked by part number.

Well that's not entirely true. I'm sure pretty much
every company out there keeps track of
a) THEIR OWN SKU/PLU for an item
b) Their SUPPLIERS SKU/PLU for an item
c) The OEM's part number for the item
d) The bar code(s)/UPC code(s) they choose to use.
e) Any applicable RFID codes for the products
f) Serial numbers for warranty/product recall/RMA/
auditing purposes.
g) Product receipt date for taxation / warranty / QA /
statistical purposes.
h) Product expiration / return-by dates.
i) Price paid for the item from the supplier
j) Own advertised price for item
etc. etc. so clearly it's not exactly unusual to
track a wide variety of information for any given product,
and for some of that information to be inherited from the
vendor/manufacturer, and for other aspects of the
information to be originated / determined / tracked
soley by the particular vendor.

There's no reason why at any point a vendor can't
create another SKU/PLU for a given version of a product
if they want; in fact that often seems to happen given
the way people set up rebates or bundles or whatever.

A part number is easily scanned and doesn't change often.

Well INTEL doesn't change its steppings that often
either; maybe once every 6 months is probably average.

Also the MM number, PROD CODE, FPO/BATCH#
is JUST as easily scanned -- look here:
http://www.clubit.com/products/500x500/A1938452_4.jpg

The BAR CODES for all those things are RIGHT on the
label, right next to the human readable printouts of
the very same information. Everything one could want to
know except maybe the individual serial number and
I wouldn't be surprised if that was scannable too.

So if you're scanning or doing data entry for ANYTHING
for the products, the other information is
RIGHT THERE TOO. It doesn't get much easier than that.

Certainly for warranty/RMA purposes I'm sure you're
scanning/doing data entry of the SERIAL # etc., so
there's no real reason to wait until something ships
to enter that information into the inventory control
system when it could be (and may already be) done
in advance.

When Intel ships these processors to a distributor, they ship a particular part number. There might be B3s, or G0s or any mixture of the two. It's not guaranteed.

Well usually the IC manufacturers allow any of their
direct clients to specify what requirements their
products have, though if they don't indicate a need for
a certain fixed version, yes, they'll get any version.

If it's not guaranteed from Intel, it's not guaranteed from us.

Well, that's certainly your and any vendor's right to
do business that way. All I'm saying is it's silly in this
day and age of B2B, XML, RFID, Bar codes, electronic
inventory databases, Just In Time ordering, etc. etc.
for simple and relevant product revision/model information
not to be ubiquitously tracked and known when the OEM
clearly considers the distinctions important and works
to publish that information for the USE of THEIR channel /
distributors customers who evidentally all just ignore it.

For all we know, we could get a skid of CPUs 99% of which are G0, but there could still be some B3s in there that are leftover inventory from our supplier, or from Intel themselves.

Yes, that's the annoying and unnecessary part. All it
takes is for the channel to start caring about these
kinds of inventory / quality control details and voila,
it'd all be available in the ordering / inventory system.

Ah well, I guess part roulette can be a fun game for some.
Spin the wheel, take your chances.

You have to understand that NCIX has many employees, and not all of them are hardware enthusiasts who know or care about processor steppings.

Of course. I wouldn't expect for a minute for someone to
have to be a computer whiz to fulfill an order. I'd expect
it to all be in the sales / inventory / order management
system just like the price, the manufacturer, the MHz,
the model number, the stock availability, etc. so I could
just call up and say "I'd like a BX80562Q6600SLACR,
please", and that'd be typed into the order system and
everything else would be 100% automatic.

Your sales/warehouse people don't need to care about
UPCs or the difference between a Q6600 and a Q6700
either, but when I order one they should be able to
fulfill the order or tell me there's no stock or whatever.

Your parallel to the white/black case and the Corsair RAM is fundamentally flawed. Those items would have a different part number because they are (in the manufacturer's eyes) a different product. To Intel, a Q6600 is a Q6600. We order Q6600s, they ship them.

Well I don't personally know if they keep the UPC
or EAN or MODEL codes different for the different ones,
but from the bar codes and labels I see with my own
eyes EVERY other text / bar code on the package DOES
tell the difference; I don't know what codes are "orderable"
and which are not.

They could be B3 or G0 or whatever else Intel decides to slap that part number on.
Another thing is that you assume that a product code is important to stocking/ordering. It isn't. Only the part number is.

Well there are lots of things that are considered important and are tracked.
Some things may be ignored by some vendors in the channel, but for the most
part if they don't consider something important it's by CHOICE, not for lack of
having the bar coded and e-commerce/B2B/etc. information which Intel clearly can
and does provide.

The information is there for any vendor at any point in the chain to track / use,
if they desired to do so.

Certainly by the time you ship something your inventory / invoice / transaction database
gets updated with purchaser, serial number, which unit(s) from inventory have been
sold and need restocking, etc. If it's ULTIMATELY going to get recorded, there's
seemingly not much reason to do it as the last step vs. the first.

Your parallel to the white/black case and the Corsair RAM is fundamentally flawed. Those items would have a different part number because they are (in the manufacturer's eyes) a different product. To Intel, a Q6600 is a Q6600. We order Q6600s, they ship them.
They could be B3 or G0 or whatever else Intel decides to slap that part number on.

Well, that's my point, it's something that's RELEVANT to distinguish in the
customer's and INTEL's own eyes; so that's why it's nice to have the conversation
with one's suppliers to ask about getting such information in a more efficient,
streamlined, and useful way. If INTEL's distributors asked them for RFID
tags or 2D bar codes or XML ordering systems or whatever I'm sure INTEL would
work it out with them and start to provide information that was desirable and useful
to its customers. And, similarly if you had an inefficiency of transactions
with your vendors, you'd ask them to work with you to improve the scheme.
And as customers, incidents and opportunities like this one give NCIX and other Retailers / eTailers
valuable feedback from their most enthusiastic and acute customers as to what
would constitute better service and support.

If we sent an order to a major distributor asking for only boxes that have "SLACR" at the end
of the serial number they'd say "are you nuts???". Likewise if they sent such a request to Intel,
they would be simply told "we don't know. You can check when you get the shipment if you want".

Well, maybe, but that's nothing that's fixed in stone, just because that's the process that's
customary doesn't mean that it's the only possible option. I wouldn't be too surprised
if INGRAM, MERISEL, ARROW, AVNET, or whoever are larger distributors for INTEL didn't keep
track of all the barcoded bits and more and have options for their customers to access/request/use
that information in making an order.

Anyway that's also the distinction between being an e-Tailer and a brick & mortar vendor;
you're SUPPOSED to have some ability to get all the kinds of basic 'stupid' "look and feel"
questions from customers. "Is it shiny? Is it heavy? What's the model number?
What's the price? What's the warranty? Does the box say it supports VISTA?"
etc. etc. The customer CAN'T look at the products and get an impression from the
packaging / labeling / etc. before purchase, so to compete with Brick and Mortar retailers
it's helpful to be able to answer those kinds of questions about version / appearance /
compatibility / whatever.

Sure you don't HAVE to, but from all the thousands of people trying to do preorders /
specific orders / etc. for certain STEPPING / LOT / BATCH products here, it's
certainly a customer service capability that's in real ongoing demand.

Just because something is a different product code does not mean that the manufacturer considers it a different product. "Silent revisions" are very common in this industry.

And that's an unfortunate thing, in my opinion, for whatever it's worth.
Hopefully enough people as customers and in the channel will realize this,
communicate, and work to improve quality control and transparency of product
specifications.

Hopefully I have been able to address some of your confusion regarding part numbers and product codes. Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Yes, thank you for your detailed response.
Hopefully vendors like your organization and many others will always
strive to pursue "continual improvement" and look for such opportunities
to innovate, improve, add capability, responsiveness, efficiency, etc.

Maybe one day it'll be easier that it currently seems to be to know what one's actually
getting when one orders something.

Thanks again and best regards; I'm sure that NCIX already does have lots
of happy customers that have gotten G0 CPUs; it's just kind of ironic / unfortunate
that it's more of a matter of luck and accident than a predictable process.

The Nemesis

07-26-2007, 03:49 AM

Do you guys realize you can put special instructions in the ordering stage as well? I requested one with a SLACR label. Seems to have delayed my order but I don't mind.

I too did the same thing. I was even told by "David" in a live chat session that they do not & can not guarantee things like stepping. I put in the special instructions "please insure product code says BX80562Q6600SLACR as this is what I want" anyway despite that reps statement. My order was placed around noon 24 July 2007. It did not ship until 25 July 2007 whereas everyone else who ordered around noon were receiving theirs 25 July 2007 depending on the shipping paid for.

I can't imagine blasting a company for something like this. Especially without first contacting them about the issue. Thus far this is one of the only places confirmed to be shipping G0's. You can bet if others (Newegg) had them, not only would they not accept a return without penalty simply because they didn't ship a G0, they wouldn't be cheap either.

I hope the matter gets resolved for anyone who was excited, but then didn't get what they expected. But I must say I'm disappointed in the direction this thread has gone.:shakes:

RLM

07-26-2007, 04:01 AM

I was taking some bits back to a shop here in Thailand, and next door in TKCOM they had a Q6600 GO for sale. Obviously had to grab it.

I explained to the woman running the shop that she should be looking out for more of these SLACRs. Nice to see them about here:)

Batch: L724A784

Early tests. 330 x 9 1.325v (1.28-9v Guru)

Underwater with a bowed Apogee GT, and priming I'm getting 38-40c in coretemp. Not sure if I'm going to hit a wall like others, but looks good so far:)

RLM

purecain

07-26-2007, 04:10 AM

right well mine came a couple of days ago and it is a B3 stepping.
it booted straight up @3.2 with 1.4vcore-1.34actual. unfortunatly it doesnt want to go any higher. everytime i nudge it up one of the cores errors out in 4*prime95. tried giving it more volts but the instability remains. i tried over volting the mch and fsb termination and this had no effect.
my temps are amazing (core temp reads-2cores-51-2cores-46) although something is dissagreeing with my chip.the hsf (freezer pro7-AC5) probably has better contact on the bottom two cores(by force of gravity) which explains the differance in temps.
just going to keep trying until i find the settings which will let me go further. and if it wont budge over 3.2 on air...well i can live with that for now....
any advice is appreciated. rig in sig...

denden

07-26-2007, 04:16 AM

RLM

07-26-2007, 04:41 AM

RLM, pls push it further to limit cos I got a choice of either 784 or 924 here....

Will do.

Have just done a 10 min run in prime at 350x9 same volts, and it seems okay so far:)

This board seems to be a bit picky with it's dividers, so will have to see how that effects progress.

Can't believe I shelled out 650 quid on a QX6700 only a few months ago.

RLM

denden

07-26-2007, 04:44 AM

haha, I just wonder how well my dfi 680i could do with this chip....
Will do.

Have just done a 10 min run in prime at 350x9 same volts, and it seems okay so far:)

This board seems to be a bit picky with it's dividers, so will have to see how that effects progress.

Can't believe I shelled out 650 quid on a QX6700 only a few months ago.

RLM

genec57

07-26-2007, 04:55 AM

After reading all of the above diatribes I am ever so glad that I spent the exstra money for the Q6700 which is always GO. It will be here this afternoon and then the fun begins. :) A bit more money but a bit faster as well.

The Nemesis

07-26-2007, 05:03 AM

haha, I just wonder how well my dfi 680i could do with this chip....

Hey denden whats up. I'll be working with the DFI 680i on my quads as well. I'll let you know how I fair.

RLM

07-26-2007, 05:08 AM

After reading all of the above diatribes I am ever so glad that I spent the exstra money for the Q6700 which is always GO.

Is that just newer ones? My qx6700 is a B3.

denden

07-26-2007, 05:16 AM

Hey dude, I will also get my Q6600 B0 A784 this sat so....let's post result:clap:
Hey denden whats up. I'll be working with the DFI 680i on my quads as well. I'll let you know how I fair.

The Nemesis

07-26-2007, 05:24 AM

Is that just newer ones? My qx6700 is a B3.

QX6700= Multiplier unlocked B3
Q6700 = Multiplier unlocked downwards from 10 G0

Xilikon

07-26-2007, 05:27 AM

Synergy, did you know that if you return the B3 unopened to them, you get a full refund. Your only loss is shipping back to them but after doing this, reorder from them and you might get a G0.

bcracer220

07-26-2007, 07:52 AM

this is just a suggestion... but if all the purchases were consolidated in the first post, it would be a lot easier to know where to buy from. For example:

a table like this containing the data would be helpful:

Name of E-tailer. date of purchase. stepping. pack date.

something like thta, then we can also see what percentage of people recieved a g0 from a given etailer

nicepun

07-26-2007, 10:11 AM

Have you received your email " your order has been shipped"? It contains an invoice that shows the serial as S/N: BX80562Q6600SLACR.

Nope, not yet, I don't know what's taking so long.

jeffyjaixx

07-26-2007, 10:13 AM

Nope, not yet, I don't know what's taking so long.

They update faster on the NCIX website.

Just sign in and click order tracking. :)

Xilikon

07-26-2007, 10:16 AM

They update faster on the NCIX website.

Just sign in and click order tracking. :)

Not always, mine is shipped even before the order tracking get updated. I received the email half a day later with the info. Also, the website won't show the stepping, only the email will.

Xilikon

07-26-2007, 10:21 AM

double post :(

zinff

07-26-2007, 10:32 AM

Fresh off the FedEx truck from NCIX:

L723A765 G0 step Q6600!

package date 7/12/07

Capt_Caveman

07-26-2007, 10:43 AM

Linus@ncix

07-26-2007, 10:58 AM

Yes, I understand that just as your company may not
implement an ordering process that easily allows
selection by certain product criteria, other companies
who may be your indirect suppliers possibly don't either.

One could use that justification all the way up the
chain of distribution / channel until you get to INTEL
who DOES really make it quite easy to distinguish
and 100% certainly keeps the information in THEIR
inventory control / fulfillment databases. They send out
PCNs / Product Change Notifications and must keep
supplying very specific revisions to customers that have
dependence on one revision or another until the customer
agrees to change, or the purchase contract expires, or
the product is END-OF-LIFE.

However it's no unusual thing to keep track of multiple
attributes of a single model of product. In the IC
distribution business for ICs not sold directly to
consumers one can very typically select / purchase
by:
Part model
Individual Package Type
Temperature range
Lot code
Packaging (Tape & Reel, tray, tube, etc. etc.)
and about ten other factors.

Intel did the right thing and made it possible for any/all
subsidiary customers to get information about the
particular product(s) revisions / lot numbers / date
codes / serial numbers / PROD CODE / MM Number
etc. And it's just a choice of the recipients (e.g. resellers/
distributors/customers) if they want to IGNORE the
information they're presented with or not.

Well that's not entirely true. I'm sure pretty much
every company out there keeps track of
a) THEIR OWN SKU/PLU for an item
b) Their SUPPLIERS SKU/PLU for an item
c) The OEM's part number for the item
d) The bar code(s)/UPC code(s) they choose to use.
e) Any applicable RFID codes for the products
f) Serial numbers for warranty/product recall/RMA/
auditing purposes.
g) Product receipt date for taxation / warranty / QA /
statistical purposes.
h) Product expiration / return-by dates.
i) Price paid for the item from the supplier
j) Own advertised price for item
etc. etc. so clearly it's not exactly unusual to
track a wide variety of information for any given product,
and for some of that information to be inherited from the
vendor/manufacturer, and for other aspects of the
information to be originated / determined / tracked
soley by the particular vendor.

There's no reason why at any point a vendor can't
create another SKU/PLU for a given version of a product
if they want; in fact that often seems to happen given
the way people set up rebates or bundles or whatever.

Well INTEL doesn't change its steppings that often
either; maybe once every 6 months is probably average.

Also the MM number, PROD CODE, FPO/BATCH#
is JUST as easily scanned -- look here:
http://www.clubit.com/products/500x500/A1938452_4.jpg

The BAR CODES for all those things are RIGHT on the
label, right next to the human readable printouts of
the very same information. Everything one could want to
know except maybe the individual serial number and
I wouldn't be surprised if that was scannable too.

So if you're scanning or doing data entry for ANYTHING
for the products, the other information is
RIGHT THERE TOO. It doesn't get much easier than that.

Certainly for warranty/RMA purposes I'm sure you're
scanning/doing data entry of the SERIAL # etc., so
there's no real reason to wait until something ships
to enter that information into the inventory control
system when it could be (and may already be) done
in advance.

Well usually the IC manufacturers allow any of their
direct clients to specify what requirements their
products have, though if they don't indicate a need for
a certain fixed version, yes, they'll get any version.

Well, that's certainly your and any vendor's right to
do business that way. All I'm saying is it's silly in this
day and age of B2B, XML, RFID, Bar codes, electronic
inventory databases, Just In Time ordering, etc. etc.
for simple and relevant product revision/model information
not to be ubiquitously tracked and known when the OEM
clearly considers the distinctions important and works
to publish that information for the USE of THEIR channel /
distributors customers who evidentally all just ignore it.

Yes, that's the annoying and unnecessary part. All it
takes is for the channel to start caring about these
kinds of inventory / quality control details and voila,
it'd all be available in the ordering / inventory system.

Ah well, I guess part roulette can be a fun game for some.
Spin the wheel, take your chances.

Of course. I wouldn't expect for a minute for someone to
have to be a computer whiz to fulfill an order. I'd expect
it to all be in the sales / inventory / order management
system just like the price, the manufacturer, the MHz,
the model number, the stock availability, etc. so I could
just call up and say "I'd like a BX80562Q6600SLACR,
please", and that'd be typed into the order system and
everything else would be 100% automatic.

Your sales/warehouse people don't need to care about
UPCs or the difference between a Q6600 and a Q6700
either, but when I order one they should be able to
fulfill the order or tell me there's no stock or whatever.

Well I don't personally know if they keep the UPC
or EAN or MODEL codes different for the different ones,
but from the bar codes and labels I see with my own
eyes EVERY other text / bar code on the package DOES
tell the difference; I don't know what codes are "orderable"
and which are not.

Well there are lots of things that are considered important and are tracked.
Some things may be ignored by some vendors in the channel, but for the most
part if they don't consider something important it's by CHOICE, not for lack of
having the bar coded and e-commerce/B2B/etc. information which Intel clearly can
and does provide.

The information is there for any vendor at any point in the chain to track / use,
if they desired to do so.

Certainly by the time you ship something your inventory / invoice / transaction database
gets updated with purchaser, serial number, which unit(s) from inventory have been
sold and need restocking, etc. If it's ULTIMATELY going to get recorded, there's
seemingly not much reason to do it as the last step vs. the first.

Well, that's my point, it's something that's RELEVANT to distinguish in the
customer's and INTEL's own eyes; so that's why it's nice to have the conversation
with one's suppliers to ask about getting such information in a more efficient,
streamlined, and useful way. If INTEL's distributors asked them for RFID
tags or 2D bar codes or XML ordering systems or whatever I'm sure INTEL would
work it out with them and start to provide information that was desirable and useful
to its customers. And, similarly if you had an inefficiency of transactions
with your vendors, you'd ask them to work with you to improve the scheme.
And as customers, incidents and opportunities like this one give NCIX and other Retailers / eTailers
valuable feedback from their most enthusiastic and acute customers as to what
would constitute better service and support.

Well, maybe, but that's nothing that's fixed in stone, just because that's the process that's
customary doesn't mean that it's the only possible option. I wouldn't be too surprised
if INGRAM, MERISEL, ARROW, AVNET, or whoever are larger distributors for INTEL didn't keep
track of all the barcoded bits and more and have options for their customers to access/request/use
that information in making an order.

Anyway that's also the distinction between being an e-Tailer and a brick & mortar vendor;
you're SUPPOSED to have some ability to get all the kinds of basic 'stupid' "look and feel"
questions from customers. "Is it shiny? Is it heavy? What's the model number?
What's the price? What's the warranty? Does the box say it supports VISTA?"
etc. etc. The customer CAN'T look at the products and get an impression from the
packaging / labeling / etc. before purchase, so to compete with Brick and Mortar retailers
it's helpful to be able to answer those kinds of questions about version / appearance /
compatibility / whatever.

Sure you don't HAVE to, but from all the thousands of people trying to do preorders /
specific orders / etc. for certain STEPPING / LOT / BATCH products here, it's
certainly a customer service capability that's in real ongoing demand.

And that's an unfortunate thing, in my opinion, for whatever it's worth.
Hopefully enough people as customers and in the channel will realize this,
communicate, and work to improve quality control and transparency of product
specifications.

Yes, thank you for your detailed response.
Hopefully vendors like your organization and many others will always
strive to pursue "continual improvement" and look for such opportunities
to innovate, improve, add capability, responsiveness, efficiency, etc.

Maybe one day it'll be easier that it currently seems to be to know what one's actually
getting when one orders something.

Thanks again and best regards; I'm sure that NCIX already does have lots
of happy customers that have gotten G0 CPUs; it's just kind of ironic / unfortunate
that it's more of a matter of luck and accident than a predictable process.

That was a very long post, Synergy, so I'll simply address the relevant parts.

I wouldn't be too surprised
if INGRAM, MERISEL, ARROW, AVNET, or whoever are larger distributors for INTEL didn't keep track of all the barcoded bits and more and have options for their customers to access/request/use
that information in making an order.

They simply don't. Who do you think we order from? We're not some little Mom 'n Pop shop. If we were, we wouldn't have any Q6600s at all right now.

You're welcome to write in and complain to Ingram and Avnet, but I can guarantee they will NOT change this business practice. Why? It's bad business. If they separated steppings into two piles, which one do you think everyone would order? What are they going to do with the 500 perfectly good processors they have sitting there that aren't the stepping code everyone wants?

Yes, thank you for your detailed response.
Hopefully vendors like your organization and many others will always
strive to pursue "continual improvement" and look for such opportunities
to innovate, improve, add capability, responsiveness, efficiency, etc.

Trust me, I'm an enthusiast like yourself. I'm the kind of person who has an X3220 ES at home, but I'm tempted to pick up a Q6600 B0 just to see how it overclocks. I remember being frustrated by this when I was still on the outside. Here's something you have to understand:

The fewer times a product is touched, the better the price is going to be. If you want computer companies to survive on 5-10% margins, then products need to be touched as few times as possible before they go out the door. Here's how it works right now:

Intel boxes and sends processors to distribution (1 touch)
Distribution sends processors by the box to retailers (1 touch)
Individual CPUs have our labels slapped on them, and are stacked (1 touch)
CPU is put in shipping box and sent out the door (1 touch)
TOTAL TOUCHES: 4

OK, so let's try your ideal scenario

Intel boxes and sends processors to distribution (1 touch)
Distribution unpacks boxes (1 touch)
Distribution sorts boxes into steppings (1 touch)
Distribution packs it back up (1 touch)
Distribution sends it to us (1 touch)
Indivitual CPUs have our labels slapped on them (1 touch)
CPU is put in shipping box and sent out the door (1 touch)
TOTAL TOUCHES: 7

Like it or not, this new system has decreased the profitability of the distributor and also makes the CPU cost 175% as much in handling cost.

Now let's talk about warehouse storage space. If you have one place for all Q6600s, that means it's easy to find. Remember, to you this is no big deal because it's just one product. We stock thousands of products.

Also, it's far more efficient to keep one product in one place on the shelf. You split it up and when your stock runs down to 40% of each item, that means you're using double the storage space you actually needed to store that product. Storage space costs money.

And you have to remember, this storage space needs to be divided up AT EVERY LEVEL. That means that potentially at any given time, Intel's warehouse, distribution warehouses, our warehouse, and our retail locations are all using twice as much storage space as necessary for ONE SKU.

Hopefully this gives you some insight into why little corner store shops will do this, and why bigger retailers CANNOT do it. It's too expensive. Any high volume distributor or retailer that tried to do this would spend WAY too much money on it. There are countless other things I'm not factoring in like educating staff on how to tell the difference, which takes time, and also the extra time it takes to actually read something off a box versus how much time it takes to scan it, etc etc etc.

toddm27

07-26-2007, 11:08 AM

well mine showed up as well a b3, I'm rather disappointed as I went off the earlier comment that all were go's, Guess I should've stuck to my original thought to wait it out a month or so

96redformula

07-26-2007, 12:59 PM

Wrong place...sorry

hausner

07-26-2007, 01:10 PM

any one get:

Stepping: BX80562Q6600SLACR
Batch: L720B023
Package date 7/12/07

oc results ?

strange|ife

07-26-2007, 01:43 PM

That was a very long post, Synergy, so I'll simply address the relevant parts.

They simply don't. Who do you think we order from? We're not some little Mom 'n Pop shop. If we were, we wouldn't have any Q6600s at all right now.

You're welcome to write in and complain to Ingram and Avnet, but I can guarantee they will NOT change this business practice. Why? It's bad business. If they separated steppings into two piles, which one do you think everyone would order? What are they going to do with the 500 perfectly good processors they have sitting there that aren't the stepping code everyone wants?

Trust me, I'm an enthusiast like yourself. I'm the kind of person who has an X3220 ES at home, but I'm tempted to pick up a Q6600 B0 just to see how it overclocks. I remember being frustrated by this when I was still on the outside. Here's something you have to understand:

The fewer times a product is touched, the better the price is going to be. If you want computer companies to survive on 5-10% margins, then products need to be touched as few times as possible before they go out the door. Here's how it works right now:

Intel boxes and sends processors to distribution (1 touch)
Distribution sends processors by the box to retailers (1 touch)
Individual CPUs have our labels slapped on them, and are stacked (1 touch)
CPU is put in shipping box and sent out the door (1 touch)
TOTAL TOUCHES: 4

OK, so let's try your ideal scenario

Intel boxes and sends processors to distribution (1 touch)
Distribution unpacks boxes (1 touch)
Distribution sorts boxes into steppings (1 touch)
Distribution packs it back up (1 touch)
Distribution sends it to us (1 touch)
Indivitual CPUs have our labels slapped on them (1 touch)
CPU is put in shipping box and sent out the door (1 touch)
TOTAL TOUCHES: 7

Like it or not, this new system has decreased the profitability of the distributor and also makes the CPU cost 175% as much in handling cost.

Now let's talk about warehouse storage space. If you have one place for all Q6600s, that means it's easy to find. Remember, to you this is no big deal because it's just one product. We stock thousands of products.

Also, it's far more efficient to keep one product in one place on the shelf. You split it up and when your stock runs down to 40% of each item, that means you're using double the storage space you actually needed to store that product. Storage space costs money.

And you have to remember, this storage space needs to be divided up AT EVERY LEVEL. That means that potentially at any given time, Intel's warehouse, distribution warehouses, our warehouse, and our retail locations are all using twice as much storage space as necessary for ONE SKU.

Hopefully this gives you some insight into why little corner store shops will do this, and why bigger retailers CANNOT do it. It's too expensive. Any high volume distributor or retailer that tried to do this would spend WAY too much money on it. There are countless other things I'm not factoring in like educating staff on how to tell the difference, which takes time, and also the extra time it takes to actually read something off a box versus how much time it takes to scan it, etc etc etc.

not to mention multiple fumbles and field goals by UPS:rofl:

nicepun

07-26-2007, 02:02 PM

They update faster on the NCIX website.

Just sign in and click order tracking. :)

I've been doing that as well and nothing. I even called them and they didn't sound sure as when it would ship today or tomorrow yet I paid for the fastest delivery so that's one negative :down: :down: :shakes: :shakes: for them right now. If I get a G0 I'll be Happy, otherwise I'll never shop there ever again (which I don't think they really care).

brinox

07-26-2007, 02:05 PM

not to mention multiple fumbles and field goals by UPS:rofl:

the truth man... the absolute truth... i worked at the kansas hub in lenexa and can vouch for all sorts of crap that goes on inside shipping companies' walls

palese

07-26-2007, 02:23 PM

Rather than assume that we've short-changed you intentionally, it may have been a good idea to wait 'til morning and give us a call and see if we can figure out what went wrong.

Posting all over the internet about how you've been bait&switched (which you haven't by the way...) is not an appropriate way to tackle this problem.

We do not sort items by serial number. Only by part number. It's completely impossible for our system to have intentionally selected a B3 for you.

I don't know who you talked to who assured you that all of our stock was G0, but if you called a retail store (and there are no females answering the phones at our shipping warehouse), then it's VERY possible that they have all G0 at that particular retail location.

There are people on this forum suggesting that sniveling and complaining about things is the best way to get a problem solved.

Here's a valuable tip: treat people like you would want to be treated. Calling in whining loudly complaining about something is NOT going to get you better service. There is a person on the other end of the phone with the power to help you and if you want them to help you, it's a good idea to be nice about it.

I've flagged this post for someone to have a look at. I'm sure we will find a way to get this problem resolved so that you're a happy customer. Just try to be patient and we'll do what we can for you. Whomever you talked to shouldn't have assured you of that, and even if she did, she may have been right, and she may have assumed that if you're calling a retail location that you're planning to come to the retail location.

First I want to thank you for the reply Linus, also I would like to clear up a couple of issues, yes I have been in contact with NCIX and no I did not whine, yell or complain to them. I was very polite with them as they were with me.

Also I have not posted all over the Internet blasting NCIX, I posted here as this is the only forum I am a member of and I posted on the NCIX support forum.

The point I wanted to make and the one that continued to be not addressed was that I followed what I thought was the proper way to go about this purchase and that being to call NCIX and talk to a live person before making my order to see if NCIX did have stock of the new refreshed cpu's and if so would they be the new stepping. And as I said before if the NCIX Internet sales employee simply said "I'm sorry but we have no control over what is shipped" then I would have thanked her and been on my way. Also this was web sales I talked to and not a store, she was very nice and made an effort to answer my question and when she came back to the phone she even explained the SN# difference of the two steppings so who ever she talked to understood what I was looking for.

Just go on the NCIX forum and read the response I received over this by an NCIX employee.

To wrap this up the problem was never about how NCIX ships its products, it was about misinformation at the front counter.

NCIX has already resolved this issue with me and I want to thank you for bringing this to their attention, everyone at NCIX has been very nice with me.:)

Linus@ncix

07-26-2007, 02:41 PM

First I want to thank you for the reply Linus, also I would like to clear up a couple of issues, yes I have been in contact with NCIX and no I did not whine, yell or complain to them. I was very polite with them as they were with me.

Also I have not posted all over the Internet blasting NCIX, I posted here as this is the only forum I am a member of and I posted on the NCIX support forum.

The point I wanted to make and the one that continued to be not addressed was that I followed what I thought was the proper way to go about this purchase and that being to call NCIX and talk to a live person before making my order to see if NCIX did have stock of the new refreshed cpu's and if so would they be the new stepping. And as I said before if the NCIX Internet sales employee simply said "I'm sorry but we have no control over what is shipped" then I would have thanked her and been on my way. Also this was web sales I talked to and not a store, she was very nice and made an effort to answer my question and when she came back to the phone she even explained the SN# difference of the two steppings so who ever she talked to understood what I was looking for.

Just go on the NCIX forum and read the response I received over this by an NCIX employee.

To wrap this up the problem was never about how NCIX ships its products, it was about misinformation at the front counter.

NCIX has already resolved this issue with me and I want to thank you for bringing this to their attention, everyone at NCIX has been very nice with me.:)

Honestly I agree with the principle of your problem with us. If I called in somewhere and I said "make sure you're sending me the MCW30 with the hard mount kit" and they said "sure, no problem Boss" and I got one with only a spring mount I'd be choked.

It turns out the person you talked to happened to not know the right answer to give you and that's bad, but we're always doing our best to help our customers, and I knew we'd find a way to make this work. Thanks for the positive testimonial.

In response to an above post. I'm very sorry about the slow shipping right now. We're absolutely swamped. Our warehouse workers did overtime until 10pm last night.... We're doing our very best, but this is busier than the Christmas rush for us right now.

RLM

07-26-2007, 03:04 PM

Denden,

Firstly I'll post any future tests in a more appropriate thread.

Secondly just about to re-install windows etc. so won't be benching for a bit.

Have just done another quick ten minute prime.

400x9 vcore set to 1.5v memory 1000mhz 4-4-4-12 1T

Note: My motherboard seems to have some pretty severe vdroop Idle 1.45-1.46v (-0.05) at Load it's dropping down to 1.41-1.43v (-0.9)

Temps in coretemp maxing out at 48c. They do seem to be pretty even across the cores, more so than my qx6700

10 minute prime no problems.

This chip is already out performing my QX6700. My memory is a little bit vague regarding vdroop etc, but my QX needed about 1.46v to hit 3.52 with any real stability prime wise. Temps would be around 58-68c.

One last note, to be honest I never extensively prime tested my QX6700. Just short runs really. That said I used that chip for a whole lot of 3d rendering, pushing all cores to their limits and it was rock solid.

So conclusion for this Q6600 Go so far is a big thumbs up.

RLM

orion23

07-26-2007, 03:40 PM

I've been doing that as well and nothing. I even called them and they didn't sound sure as when it would ship today or tomorrow yet I paid for the fastest delivery so that's one negative :down: :down: :shakes: :shakes: for them right now. If I get a G0 I'll be Happy, otherwise I'll never shop there ever again (which I don't think they really care).

Well, I ordered one for my brother from NCIX 2 days ago.

It shipped last night but I never got an order confirmation or shipping email.

I just used the CHAT option on their site and had them resend me that information to a different email address.

So far, NCIX's service has been great. Fast service and great customer support.

Oh, And he is getting a G0! SLACR :D

hecktic

07-26-2007, 03:48 PM

idiotekniQues

07-26-2007, 03:53 PM

i called ncix yesterday, they told me they couldnt guarantee G0, i ordered it any way via the net about 5pm last night, it shipped today with scheduled arrival in NJ usa, according to fedex, being tomorrow. invoice shows SLACR.

mstp2009

07-26-2007, 03:58 PM

Well considering how Tankguys is making the effort to gaurantee G0 while NCIX here is or was making it an unofficial gaurantee that you will get G0, I would say it is not right. Making even the unofficial claim that all stock are G0 or you should get a G0 should never be said if it is not true...

All of you should just order from tankguys now and screw ncix (no offense to Linus here.. he is just doing his job and volunteering to post here in the XS forums.)

Ah, 14-year-old logic.

You do know that Tankguys is like a 3-man operation, right? They are TINY and can afford to open all boxes they get to look for G0 steppings. NCIX is a reseller supplied from Ingram Micro, etc. that deals in VOLUME. They can't, nor should be expected, to open all the processor boxes they get to hunt for a particular stepping.

I can just see all the jerks that didn't get the WEEK code they wanted in a month bi#$hing about it and wanting people to sort the chips by week now.

Grow the F up.

berdde

07-26-2007, 04:01 PM

Someone (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017) claimed to get a G0 from newegg. Note that there is no guarantee from egg. I guess eventually still need to get one with guarantee like Tankguys or Clubit (by phone).

Linus@ncix

07-26-2007, 04:09 PM

I never guaranteed anything officially or unofficially through PM. I said that most of what we had in stock was G0, and that if you ordered you *should* get a G0. I specificially said I couldn't guarantee it because the situation can change so quickly.

At the time I sent that PM most if not all of our stock was G0.

Since then we've received not one, but two additional shipments. No one has inquired directly to me since we've received those and I haven't checked because I'm not located at our shipping warehouse. If someone asked me now what we have I would say "I don't know".

All I'm doing is giving you the best information I have at the time it's requested of me.

Regards,

Linus

Well considering how Tankguys is making the effort to gaurantee G0 while NCIX here is or was making it an unofficial gaurantee that you will get G0, I would say it is not right. Making even the unofficial claim that all stock are G0 or you should get a G0 should never be said if it is not true...

All of you should just order from tankguys now and screw ncix (no offense to Linus here.. he is just doing his job and volunteering to post here in the XS forums.)

nicepun

07-26-2007, 04:12 PM

Well, I ordered one for my brother from NCIX 2 days ago.

It shipped last night but I never got an order confirmation or shipping email.

I just used the CHAT option on their site and had them resend me that information to a different email address.

So far, NCIX's service has been great. Fast service and great customer support.

Oh, And he is getting a G0! SLACR :D

Well I'm very impatient so I pay for the fatest shipping available. I just canxed my order and since there was no guarantee of getting a G0 I'm just going to wait this one out until Tankguys get them in stock. Oh Well.

sofarfrome

07-26-2007, 04:17 PM

SNiiPE_DoGG

07-26-2007, 04:17 PM

question @ linus

are the steppings from here on out going to be G0 aka SLACR and the B3's will become less common?

p.s.
its really nice to see a rep from a large distro like NCIX actually participating in these forums, so thanks for that.

Linus@ncix

07-26-2007, 04:27 PM

Well I'm very impatient so I pay for the fatest shipping available. I just canxed my order and since there was no guarantee of getting a G0 I'm just going to wait this one out until Tankguys get them in stock. Oh Well.

Every customer has individual needs. I'm sorry we weren't able to meet yours this time around :(

@the above post:

Yes. You can expect to see fewer and fewer B3 chips as time goes on. What's being sold right now is the fresh shipments of G0 from Intel, as well as leftover B3 chips (from retailers, distribution, and right up to Intel themselves, so it takes a while to trickle down).

The leftovers will disappear faster in this case than they have in the past due to the enormous demand for this chip, but we could still ship a B3 in a month if a distributor finds a box of them in a back room somewhere or something. This sort of thing is fairly commonplace actually. There's room for human error at every level.

chriskurn

07-26-2007, 04:41 PM

My G0 <-I Hope shipped today from NCIXUS.com

Fed-ex Next Day :clap:

hecktic

07-26-2007, 04:53 PM

Ah, 14-year-old logic.

You do know that Tankguys is like a 3-man operation, right? They are TINY and can afford to open all boxes they get to look for G0 steppings. NCIX is a reseller supplied from Ingram Micro, etc. that deals in VOLUME. They can't, nor should be expected, to open all the processor boxes they get to hunt for a particular stepping.

I can just see all the jerks that didn't get the WEEK code they wanted in a month bi#$hing about it and wanting people to sort the chips by week now.

Grow the F up.

Yes Im well aware of tankguys and how they operate. I was only saying in the context of this thread, if people want G0 then they will only complain if they dont have it... just read the earlier pages of this thread.

Personally I chose not to buy from either store and just wait off until the next price drop which isnt too far away from now...

I never guaranteed anything officially or unofficially through PM. I said that most of what we had in stock was G0, and that if you ordered you *should* get a G0. I specificially said I couldn't guarantee it because the situation can change so quickly.

At the time I sent that PM most if not all of our stock was G0.

Since then we've received not one, but two additional shipments. No one has inquired directly to me since we've received those and I haven't checked because I'm not located at our shipping warehouse. If someone asked me now what we have I would say "I don't know".

All I'm doing is giving you the best information I have at the time it's requested of me.

Regards,

Linus

I never said you did gaurantee.... if you read some of the posts earlier in this thead and the other G0 threads you will see how people claimed they called up NCIX and were informed that in fact all stock were G0.... I believe you already were aware of that from when I sent you the pm about it few days ago.

Im just saying if that was not true then how exactly can NCIX support such a claim?

I mean the fact is NCIX is carrying both B3 and G0. So the proper way to have answered that question when those people called up NCIX was to say the inventory will almost always contain a mix of both G0 and B3 core stepping. As simple as that.... I think you will agree.

P.S. As I said you are just doing your job and I respect that, you have not done anything wrong here.. I suppose it is just the fact that you told me via pm after I sent you that information above that it *should* be a G0 if the order was placed that threw me off personally... again no offense to you in any of this.... your just doing your job :rolleyes:

Xilikon

07-26-2007, 05:00 PM

Every customer has individual needs. I'm sorry we weren't able to meet yours this time around :(

@the above post:

Yes. You can expect to see fewer and fewer B3 chips as time goes on. What's being sold right now is the fresh shipments of G0 from Intel, as well as leftover B3 chips (from retailers, distribution, and right up to Intel themselves, so it takes a while to trickle down).

The leftovers will disappear faster in this case than they have in the past due to the enormous demand for this chip, but we could still ship a B3 in a month if a distributor finds a box of them in a back room somewhere or something. This sort of thing is fairly commonplace actually. There's room for human error at every level.

That's true and don't forget that for 1 enthusiast, there are maybe 5 casual users who don't overclock so they don't care what stepping. We all hope those casual users will get the undesirable stepping while letting the good ones to enthusiasts. That's just your luck of the draw.

Linus@ncix

07-26-2007, 05:01 PM

Yes Im well aware of tankguys and how they operate. I was only saying in the context of this thread, if people want G0 then they will only complain if they dont have it... just read the earlier pages of this thread.

Personally I chose not to buy from either store and just wait off until the next price drop which isnt too far away from now...

I never said you did gaurantee.... if you read some of the posts earlier in this thead and the other G0 threads you will see how people claimed they called up NCIX and were informed that in fact all stock were G0.... I believe you already were aware of that from when I sent you the pm about it few days ago.

Im just saying if that was not true then how exactly can NCIX support such a claim?

I mean the fact is NCIX is carrying both B3 and G0. So the proper way to have answered that question when those people called up NCIX was to say the inventory will almost always contain a mix of both G0 and B3 core stepping. As simple as that.... I think you will agree.

P.S. As I said you are just doing your job and I respect that, you have not done anything wrong here.. I suppose it is just the fact that you told me via pm after I sent you that information above that it *should* be a G0 if the order was placed that threw me off personally... again no offense to you in any of this.... your just doing your job :rolleyes:

No worries man. We're all doing our best over here to give the information we have when we have it. If they told you it was all G0 in the back, then it's very likely that that was the last they'd heard. They shouldn't have guaranteed it, but that's in the past now, and the appropriate people have been informed that they should only tell people the official company policy.

No offence taken. Don't worry :)

96redformula

07-26-2007, 05:07 PM

I am just wondering why the people answering the phones said that they only had g0 steppings left over. I took a chance when it was first reported that all were g0's and I DID get a g0. I can understand the frustration with those that were expecting g0's and got b3's. I made my decision willing to take that chance. The only way to have been 100% sure would have been to have called and had them tell you they would have one shipped out to you.

As other have stated, GOOD JOB NCIX on representing on the forums and clearing up the issue.

The Nemesis

07-26-2007, 05:17 PM

I'm wondering why are we still on this subject!!!!

My results with my G0 are nothing to get excited over. It's performing the same as my B3, just running cooler. I was able to boot @ 3.7Ghz which was Pi stable but not 3DMark06 stable. This was on the eVGA 680i T1. 400 X 9 on the eVGA is sometimes stable & sometimes not. It's always stable on the DFI P965-S though, but won't do 3.7Ghz. Because this chip is behaving so much like the other, I believe it's my motherboards. I have the DFI 680i on the way and will post back some better results then. It would seem if you're going after a G0 chip you need to have a P35 board to unleash its potential. Other wise its just a cool running Quad with similar performance to the B3.

newls1

07-26-2007, 05:24 PM

newegg is now shipping the G0 out. I read the reviews and people are proclaiming this fact

dinos22

07-26-2007, 05:39 PM

NGPlease

07-26-2007, 05:56 PM

I just PICKED UP a q6600 from the burnaby branch. It was a SL9UM aka B3. Tad dissapointed but from what I can see from some of the O/C reports it's not that big of a deal.

denden

07-26-2007, 06:00 PM

thks a lot RML, while seems not as good as L723A765 but anyway I will go get the same code as yours and play around this weedend.

Denden,

Firstly I'll post any future tests in a more appropriate thread.

Secondly just about to re-install windows etc. so won't be benching for a bit.

Have just done another quick ten minute prime.

400x9 vcore set to 1.5v memory 1000mhz 4-4-4-12 1T

Note: My motherboard seems to have some pretty severe vdroop Idle 1.45-1.46v (-0.05) at Load it's dropping down to 1.41-1.43v (-0.9)

Temps in coretemp maxing out at 48c. They do seem to be pretty even across the cores, more so than my qx6700

10 minute prime no problems.

This chip is already out performing my QX6700. My memory is a little bit vague regarding vdroop etc, but my QX needed about 1.46v to hit 3.52 with any real stability prime wise. Temps would be around 58-68c.

One last note, to be honest I never extensively prime tested my QX6700. Just short runs really. That said I used that chip for a whole lot of 3d rendering, pushing all cores to their limits and it was rock solid.

So conclusion for this Q6600 Go so far is a big thumbs up.

RLM

AcuraDC5

07-26-2007, 06:05 PM

Forget NCIX. ClubIT has the Q6600 for 305 with free shipping. They guarantee G0 but you have to call them to place an order.

Just ordered mine and there is a waitlist, but as of 2 hours ago, there was only about 24 people listed.

There is no pre-order charge, G0 is guaranteed, shipping is free. Can't beat that.

nicepun

07-26-2007, 06:09 PM

Well I decided to take a trip to the local MicroCenter since they are listing the Q6600 for $299 but they didn't have any in stock, they said maybe next week, in the meantime I ended up buying an E6750 (I don't know why) but I think I'm not going to open and go back to MircoCenter and exchange it for a Q6600. They'll let me pick the stepping (I asked).

rdmty

07-26-2007, 06:10 PM

newegg is now shipping the G0 out. I read the reviews and people are proclaiming this fact

well, I've never really trusted the reviews at newegg, I mean have you actually read some of the reviews posted there?

Updated first post, not much content as most people just bought from ncix.

jimmyz

07-26-2007, 06:31 PM

rdmty

07-26-2007, 06:53 PM

was about to order one from ncixus, but their page lists the price as $288, but if you add to the cart it gets listed at $304 :/

mstp2009

07-26-2007, 07:18 PM

Got shipping confirmation from NCIXUS - BX80562Q6600SLACR

Ordered about 10AM this morning.

States it is going out today, Canada Express.

Anyone know what the typical transit time to USA is?

chriskurn

07-26-2007, 07:39 PM

NCIXUS.com Confirmed

BX80562Q6600SLACR

Arrives Fri Morn

dinos22

07-26-2007, 07:42 PM

hehehe great avatar there

Vienna

07-26-2007, 08:41 PM

SL9UM here :(, I gotta say thou, SL9UM reminds me of SLUM, and SLACR makes me think of like a RAZR lol

What are the overclocks like on the B3's/SL9UM anyways?

The Nemesis

07-26-2007, 08:55 PM

i don't know about that man

XtremeTiramisu CPU is priming at 3.8GHz @1.45v
hopefully more will do the same and there is no chance you'll get any B3 Q6600 do that on air with mid-20C ambients

My chips has the exact same markings as his on the box & cpu. My Ambients are higher than his and he's using a P5K. It's said the latest bios for the DFI 680i is prepared for clocking quads so I'm gonna give it a go. My chip is currently priming on air (Scythe Infinity Stock) on the DFI P965-S Dark 3.4Ghz 1.37v load, 1.4v bios. Smart Guardian says 48'C-52'c, core temp says 60'C peak on the hottest core. The chip is better then the B3 if you have a poor one, but if you have a B3 like mine it may not quite be worth the investment for 100MHz or so more with same board. I'm sure If I drop it in a P35 it will fly just like XtremeTiramisu's. I intend to do just that if necessary, but for the next week I must have SLI.

jeffyjaixx

07-26-2007, 08:59 PM

L723A765 here.

Ordered Tuesday afternoon and got it Wednesday morning.

Gigabyte needs to work on their next bios soon... for some reason whenever I go 1.4000 + vcore in bios... the system becomes really unstable.

Right now, I'm doing 1.3000 vcore in bios for 358x9 (3.222 Ghz) and CPU-Z shows 1.25 vcore at load. Vdroop is killing me. :(

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/423/g0q6600loadprime13000vcew3.jpg

palese

07-26-2007, 09:04 PM

hecktic

07-26-2007, 09:22 PM

No worries man. We're all doing our best over here to give the information we have when we have it. If they told you it was all G0 in the back, then it's very likely that that was the last they'd heard. They shouldn't have guaranteed it, but that's in the past now, and the appropriate people have been informed that they should only tell people the official company policy.

No offence taken. Don't worry :)

Yep. NCIX/NCIXUS is otherwise doing an excellent job on both pricing and customer service. Shipping express $9.99 is a nice offer to combine with a great selling chip. Hope it lasts for another few weeks.

I am just wondering why the people answering the phones said that they only had g0 steppings left over. I took a chance when it was first reported that all were g0's and I DID get a g0. I can understand the frustration with those that were expecting g0's and got b3's. I made my decision willing to take that chance. The only way to have been 100% sure would have been to have called and had them tell you they would have one shipped out to you.

As other have stated, GOOD JOB NCIX on representing on the forums and clearing up the issue.

Who knows... might have just been for that 1 day of stock.... Linus just said they will only be telling people company policy from now on, in regards to these kinds of questions/requests.

In another week or two all the B3 will be gone on the Q6600 anyways..

I'm wondering why are we still on this subject!!!!

My results with my G0 are nothing to get excited over. It's performing the same as my B3, just running cooler. I was able to boot @ 3.7Ghz which was Pi stable but not 3DMark06 stable. This was on the eVGA 680i T1. 400 X 9 on the eVGA is sometimes stable & sometimes not. It's always stable on the DFI P965-S though, but won't do 3.7Ghz. Because this chip is behaving so much like the other, I believe it's my motherboards. I have the DFI 680i on the way and will post back some better results then. It would seem if you're going after a G0 chip you need to have a P35 board to unleash its potential. Other wise its just a cool running Quad with similar performance to the B3.

Try 24 hr prime or orthos.. then compare with someone on the same oc results using G0.. you will see the difference is because mainly the TDP is rated lower on the G0 core stepping.

Temperatures will always be variable by the ambient, TIM type, etc...

newegg is now shipping the G0 out. I read the reviews and people are proclaiming this fact

With the price drop they did today to $339 then $329 I would not be so sure about that... plus why bother buying from them when there are dozens of the other places you can buy from cheaper and sometimes also free shipping. :up:

Forget NCIX. ClubIT has the Q6600 for 305 with free shipping. They guarantee G0 but you have to call them to place an order.

Just ordered mine and there is a waitlist, but as of 2 hours ago, there was only about 24 people listed.

There is no pre-order charge, G0 is guaranteed, shipping is free. Can't beat that.

They can only gaurantee if they look at the side of each box and find the sSpec Number, which is the last part of the manufacturer model number; SL9UM is B3 core stepping and SLACR is G0 core stepping. Main concern for heavy ocers again is the TDP difference. Going from B3 rated at a TDP of 105w down to a G0 rated at only 95w. Theoretically lower temperatures are expected which can help overclocking performance almost always.

Got shipping confirmation from NCIXUS - BX80562Q6600SLACR

Ordered about 10AM this morning.

States it is going out today, Canada Express.

Anyone know what the typical transit time to USA is?

G0 core stepping there :up:

NCIXUS.com Confirmed

BX80562Q6600SLACR

Arrives Fri Morn

G0 core stepping there :up:

SL9UM here :(, I gotta say thou, SL9UM reminds me of SLUM, and SLACR makes me think of like a RAZR lol

What are the overclocks like on the B3's/SL9UM anyways?

Read above.

L723A765 here.

Ordered Tuesday afternoon and got it Wednesday morning.

Gigabyte needs to work on their next bios soon... for some reason whenever I go 1.4000 + vcore in bios... the system becomes really unstable.

Right now, I'm doing 1.3000 vcore in bios for 358x9 (3.222 Ghz) and CPU-Z shows 1.25 vcore at load. Vdroop is killing me. :(

Not too bad. Compare your batch with others to see how far you *should* be able to take your chip to in terms of overclocking.

jeffyjaixx

07-26-2007, 09:32 PM

Not too bad. Compare your batch with others to see how far you *should* be able to take your chip to in terms of overclocking.

Yeah... I have the same batch as XtremeTiramisu. :D

I'm thinking it's the motherboard.

Right now, I'm debating whether to wait for Gigabyte to come out with a newer bios or get the P5K Deluxe... but I'm not sure an extra 0.5 Ghz is worth the extra $250 for the new mobo :p:

Linus@ncix

07-26-2007, 09:56 PM

@ Hectic

The offer will not last for 3 weeks because we will not have stock of this chip for 3 weeks. It's very likely that once current suppy dries up it could be a LONG time before we get another large supply of them again...........

The Nemesis

07-26-2007, 10:00 PM

Try 24 hr prime or orthos.. then compare with someone on the same oc results using G0.. you will see the difference is because mainly the TDP is rated lower on the G0 core stepping.

Temperatures will always be variable by the ambient, TIM type, etc...

My stability testing goes 3DMark06->OCCT->Prime. I run Pi just to get a quick idea, but 3DMark06 will normally fail @ the same settings Pi Passes. Prime is running @ 3.4 GHZ now. 1.4v set in bios 1.37v @ load. This is 100Mhz more than my other chip. I'm confident when I use a better board and water instead of air this chip will do Prime @3.6GHz same voltage & bench @ 3.8Ghz. I doubt my B3 can bench that high regardless of cooling, but for now I'm still questioning $300 for a mere 100 more Mhz.

ChaosMinionX

07-27-2007, 02:01 AM

Received a B3 from the egg!

Stepping: B3
Lot: L645G233

The P5K has trouble with this chip at 500mhz on fsb, runs 450 like a dream as well as 475... the cooler is holding up quite well idle is aroun 60C load goes to about 71C on all 4 cores.... Need to get a new cooler, and lap this baby. Takes about 1.475v for 3.6ghz 450x8...Quite happy with it so far, I wish X38 was though hah.

hecktic

07-27-2007, 02:34 AM

Yeah... I have the same batch as XtremeTiramisu. :D

I'm thinking it's the motherboard.

Right now, I'm debating whether to wait for Gigabyte to come out with a newer bios or get the P5K Deluxe... but I'm not sure an extra 0.5 Ghz is worth the extra $250 for the new mobo :p:

ah lol 0.5ghz is worth the extra $250 IMO :up:

@ Hectic

The offer will not last for 3 weeks because we will not have stock of this chip for 3 weeks. It's very likely that once current suppy dries up it could be a LONG time before we get another large supply of them again...........

So I take it current stock is running low?

My stability testing goes 3DMark06->OCCT->Prime. I run Pi just to get a quick idea, but 3DMark06 will normally fail @ the same settings Pi Passes. Prime is running @ 3.4 GHZ now. 1.4v set in bios 1.37v @ load. This is 100Mhz more than my other chip. I'm confident when I use a better board and water instead of air this chip will do Prime @3.6GHz same voltage & bench @ 3.8Ghz. I doubt my B3 can bench that high regardless of cooling, but for now I'm still questioning $300 for a mere 100 more Mhz.

$300 for an extra 100 Mhz is not worth it.

Received a B3 from the egg!

Stepping: B3
Lot: L645G233

The P5K has trouble with this chip at 500mhz on fsb, runs 450 like a dream as well as 475... the cooler is holding up quite well idle is aroun 60C load goes to about 71C on all 4 cores.... Need to get a new cooler, and lap this baby. Takes about 1.475v for 3.6ghz 450x8...Quite happy with it so far, I wish X38 was though hah.

It could also be the chip, remember the B3 core stepping has a TDP of 105w whereas the G0 core stepping is a much lower 95w.

For example figuring a 4.05Ghz with about 1.550 true Vcore the
heat dissipated goes up as follows.

105w x ((1.550v / 1.372v)^2) = 134.01w

134.01 x (4050mhz / 2398.5mhz) = 226.28w dissipated at 4.05Ghz with 1.550 Vcore.

This assumes you could hit 4.05Ghz at that temp which you may not be able too.

A CPU with a TDP of 95w (G0 core stepping on Q6600) would look like this:

95w x ((1.550v / 1.372v)^2) = 121.25w

121.25 x (4050mhz / 2398.5mhz) = 204.74w dissipated at 4.05Ghz with 1.550 Vcore.

Theoretically this is what it is... G0 :up: B3 :down:

Jonnio

07-27-2007, 04:02 AM

226

07-27-2007, 04:08 AM

Ordered from ncixus on 7/24 and it looks like I will be getting a g0.

Barcode: 22211 156996 442
S/N: BX80562Q6600SLACR

easyrider

07-27-2007, 05:28 AM

anyone in UK ordered and recieved a G0?

hecktic

07-27-2007, 05:29 AM

So what trumps what? I just got my chip from Tiger Direct

Lot Code L723A369 (others have reported G0 from this lot)
but it has SL9UM on the chip as well

I would plug it in and see, but NewEgg sucks and is taking a week longer than everyone else to get the rest of my parts to me.

I am sorry to tell you but you have B3 :down:
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9UM

Ordered from ncixus on 7/24 and it looks like I will be getting a g0.

Barcode: 22211 156996 442
S/N: BX80562Q6600SLACR

Yep you got a G0 :up:

purecain

07-27-2007, 06:27 AM

its not that bad if you get a B3.... i did and decided to keep it instead of returning it for a GO. there are good and bad and it doesnt matter which stepping you get. it is a given that the GO will be marginally better but you cant go further than that. after all it is essentially the same chip.

easyrider

07-27-2007, 06:31 AM

Xilikon

07-27-2007, 07:14 AM

Not if they scale much higher.

A difference between 3.2ghz or 3.6ghz is a biggy in my book.

That's true if you care about getting a high speed. If you don't care about that and the goal is 3.0 - 3.2 GHz then either one doesn't matter ;)

easyrider

07-27-2007, 07:21 AM

That's true if you care about getting a high speed. If you don't care about that and the goal is 3.0 - 3.2 GHz then either one doesn't matter ;)

Agreed,

Most are happy with 3ghz.

However most people are running C2D @ 3.6ghz so they would want a 24/7 3.6ghz overclock with a quad I would of thought.

ChaosMinionX

07-27-2007, 09:12 AM

DaveXensen

07-27-2007, 09:16 AM

i ordered yesterday morning from NCIXUSA, still waiting on shipping conf.

this blows so hard

Xilikon

07-27-2007, 09:26 AM

Agreed,

Most are happy with 3ghz.

However most people are running C2D @ 3.6ghz so they would want a 24/7 3.6ghz overclock with a quad I would of thought.

Personnally, my goal was 3.2-3.4 so upgrading from my E4300 @ 3.33 GHz is worth it. I would hate to get 2 more cores at lower speeds. Just think of what is the goal then ponder the need of getting a G0 or not...

Jonnio

07-27-2007, 09:42 AM

Agreed,

Most are happy with 3ghz.

However most people are running C2D @ 3.6ghz so they would want a 24/7 3.6ghz overclock with a quad I would of thought.

I am mainly going for 3ghz, so I am not too worried about it. I will be really curious to compare my B3 stepping with the G0 though since they are in the same batch. I can't imagine Intel made any major changes mid batch.

Andypro1

07-27-2007, 09:46 AM

Just got my Q6600 order from ZipZoomFly. It's a B3 and I ordered one week ago, just so you guys know.

However, I was pretty sure it was going to be B3 and I'm happy with that. I'll be using this for a server build anyway - I'll be fine w/ ~3GHz.

ChOmP

07-27-2007, 09:55 AM

Ordered mine from NCIXUS on 7/25 and got the shipping email yesterday. It's a G0. :) And it should be here in a few hours.

Retro

07-27-2007, 10:05 AM

NCIXUS.com Confirmed

BX80562Q6600SLACR

Arrives Fri Morn

Good for you:) I live 4 hrs away from the NCIX warehouse and they haven't even shipped my E6850 which I ordered last Wednesday:mad:

purecain

07-27-2007, 10:16 AM

i agree 3.6ghz is far better than 3.2ghz for the same money. but thats what makes this discussion interesting. we just dont know how the new stepping is going to clock. we have some good results but i'm still forming an oppinion. a few more days of testing G0's and we should know whats what with this new stepping....

UnknownZA

07-27-2007, 11:11 AM

Q6600 B3 @ 3.3 Ghz 367x9 Can't hit 377 though .. almost boots at 3.4Ghz(378) but then reboots.

3.3Ghz is stable though.

ASUS P5W DH Deluxe.

US

hecktic

07-27-2007, 03:54 PM

@ Hektic -

So I could in theory use a better heatsink or water cooling? And get the thermals down a bit more it might be salvageable? It seems more like it is a chipset limitation or the board itself, because if i leave the cpu voltage alone, and crank out the NB to 1.7v it boots fine.

Well I will get a different cooler tonight, and check out if theres any progress.

Yes in theory.

I dont know which board you are using, but you should first focus on vCore of the cpu and try and get the chip to boot with a low vFSB like in my case on the very cpu I am using at the momment, an e6300; I can get it to boot at 1.20 vCore and 1.20 vFSB. Didnt touch any of the other voltages on the MCP or SPP yet. Been playing around with this chip for the past month and all I had to do to reach 357fsb was increase the Vcore just a notch up to 1.208.

Lowering voltage will almost always result in a couple degrees being shaved off.

So try that first and then after you find the wall to where you can no longer be stable at X voltage core and X voltage FSB you should then consider work around methods like maybe a new bios or maybe unlinking the RAM or at that point touching the MCP or SPP voltages.

My chip has been able to go 500fsb at just 1.36vcore and 1.3v FSB. HAve not even touched the MCP or SPP voltages yet. Im sure if I did I could boot up and run prime or orthos stable for 24 hours at around 600fsb.

Sometimes it can be the board that blocks you from going further but on a C2Q I would recommend water cooling at the least.

i agree 3.6ghz is far better than 3.2ghz for the same money. but thats what makes this discussion interesting. we just dont know how the new stepping is going to clock. we have some good results but i'm still forming an oppinion. a few more days of testing G0's and we should know whats what with this new stepping....

Exactly! :up:

TankGuys

07-27-2007, 04:48 PM

They simply don't. Who do you think we order from? We're not some little Mom 'n Pop shop. If we were, we wouldn't have any Q6600s at all right now... *snip*

Linus makes some good points here guys, and he's right - the disties don't care to take the time to separate them out, for the same reason most retailers won't, as outlined in his post.

A company like NCIX buries us in revenue, and turns over far more product than we do. This reflects the general markets we each focus on - they offer a broad range of products for most every use, we tend to focus more on the specific needs of you guys on these forums.

Because our focus is a lot more targeted, and because we don't do the same volume, it's easier for us to be a bit more "maneuverable" (for lack of a better word) on what items we stock.

Since I'd seen this G0 rush coming from a mile away, and knowing that our core market, you overclockers, were going to hold off on purchases until the G0's launched, I stopped buying B3's a few months back, to ensure they'd be cleaned out by now. NCIX, on the other hand, caters to a much broader audience, so it was a much smarter move for them to continue stocking large numbers of parts, since the majority of their customers aren't quite as picky as those of us on the enthusiast forums, and so will be happy with anything :D By the same measure, I've held off on taking my allocation until I could be certain of G0's, where that move wouldn't have made sense for NCIX, as that would have cost them a lot of lost sales from the people who didn't care either way.

With all of that in mind, it seems they've done a bang-up job of doing what they can to get many chips into many hands at a reasonable price. :up: While I know it's frustrating to get a B3 when you were hoping for a G0, keep in mind these guys are likely pulling some insane hours, and busting their humps, to do the best they can, I know we are. :D

badboy

07-27-2007, 05:13 PM

I just ordered this. This is a GO right?
INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 (BX80562Q6600) 2.4GHZ EM64T QUAD CORE W/4MB X 2 CACHE 1066MHZ LGA775-PIN RETAIL BOXED W/COOLING FAN

Xilikon

07-27-2007, 05:19 PM

I just ordered this. This is a GO right?
INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 (BX80562Q6600) 2.4GHZ EM64T QUAD CORE W/4MB X 2 CACHE 1066MHZ LGA775-PIN RETAIL BOXED W/COOLING FAN

Nothing indicate G0 at this point, you need to find SLACR after the "BX80562Q6600" code.

SLINROB

07-27-2007, 05:50 PM

Linus makes some good points here guys, and he's right - the disties don't care to take the time to separate them out, for the same reason most retailers won't, as outlined in his post.

A company like NCIX buries us in revenue, and turns over far more product than we do. This reflects the general markets we each focus on - they offer a broad range of products for most every use, we tend to focus more on the specific needs of you guys on these forums.

Because our focus is a lot more targeted, and because we don't do the same volume, it's easier for us to be a bit more "maneuverable" (for lack of a better word) on what items we stock.

Since I'd seen this G0 rush coming from a mile away, and knowing that our core market, you overclockers, were going to hold off on purchases until the G0's launched, I stopped buying B3's a few months back, to ensure they'd be cleaned out by now. NCIX, on the other hand, caters to a much broader audience, so it was a much smarter move for them to continue stocking large numbers of parts, since the majority of their customers aren't quite as picky as those of us on the enthusiast forums, and so will be happy with anything :D By the same measure, I've held off on taking my allocation until I could be certain of G0's, where that move wouldn't have made sense for NCIX, as that would have cost them a lot of lost sales from the people who didn't care either way.

With all of that in mind, it seems they've done a bang-up job of doing what they can to get many chips into many hands at a reasonable price. :up: While I know it's frustrating to get a B3 when you were hoping for a G0, keep in mind these guys are likely pulling some insane hours, and busting their humps, to do the best they can, I know we are. :D

Hey Tankguys! hows it goin? Any word on when you guys will get the G0's? I have mine reserved with the $5 down payment and have already payed for shipping. I will probably be paying the total amount in the next 3 days.

TankGuys

07-27-2007, 05:52 PM

Hey Tankguys! hows it goin? Any word on when you guys will get the G0's? I have mine reserved with the $5 down payment and have already payed for shipping. I will probably be paying the total amount in the next 3 days.

They *should* be shipping out 8/6. We should have them in hand by the 3rd, but won't have time to re-ship all those orders that day ;)

SLINROB

07-27-2007, 05:55 PM

They *should* be shipping out 8/6. We should have them in hand by the 3rd, but won't have time to re-ship all those orders that day ;)

Ok cool man, thanks for the fast reply. I will just be patient a few more days as it will not kill me to wait it out to ensure I get what I want. :D

Haltech

07-27-2007, 06:02 PM

I placed an order With Tank. Im patiently waiting for the G0s to ship. Still decidiing on a MB and its not going to be another Asus.

dinos22

07-27-2007, 06:09 PM

It could also be the chip, remember the B3 core stepping has a TDP of 105w whereas the G0 core stepping is a much lower 95w.

For example figuring a 4.05Ghz with about 1.550 true Vcore the
heat dissipated goes up as follows.

105w x ((1.550v / 1.372v)^2) = 134.01w

134.01 x (4050mhz / 2398.5mhz) = 226.28w dissipated at 4.05Ghz with 1.550 Vcore.

This assumes you could hit 4.05Ghz at that temp which you may not be able too.

A CPU with a TDP of 95w (G0 core stepping on Q6600) would look like this:

95w x ((1.550v / 1.372v)^2) = 121.25w

121.25 x (4050mhz / 2398.5mhz) = 204.74w dissipated at 4.05Ghz with 1.550 Vcore.

Theoretically this is what it is... G0 :up: B3 :down:

why did you use 1.372v there

hecktic

07-27-2007, 06:44 PM

why did you use 1.372v there

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9UM

I assumed worse case scenario you get 1.372 vcore out of the box.

arisythila

07-27-2007, 07:04 PM

ChOmP

07-27-2007, 07:13 PM

Well I am getting a G0 from NCIX but i hate FedEx. Payed for the Priority Air Mail and it missed the flight to get to my area because it was held up at customs :(. Now i have to wait till Mon.

dinos22

07-27-2007, 07:49 PM

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9UM

I assumed worse case scenario you get 1.372 vcore out of the box.

i thought it was 1.35v
interesting

zoob

07-27-2007, 07:56 PM

Darn! Got me a B3 from NCIX. SL9UM. So what you guys are saying is if I refuse shipment then all I pay for is the shipping cost? I just received confirmation that it was shipped tonight.

kasuza

07-27-2007, 08:02 PM

I got B3 from ncix.com DAMMMMMMMMM IT!. I ordered it on July 25. My luck is very bad. I think i am gonna sell it for $275 with shipping...I am so impatient because i cannot wait to get Q6600 "G0" from tankguy.

One quick question:
Should i get P5k Premium Black Pearl Edition for overclocing or Evga 680i A1? One more question: Is Zalman 9700 gonna fit in P5k board?

sergers

07-27-2007, 09:02 PM

this is hilarious...

you will be losing cost of shipment, and more than likely the 15% re-stocking fee... (they sometimes waive this fee, because they are not bastards)..

majority with people with a g0... wouldnt even know what to do with one... and by the comments in this thread, majority of the people who are complaining about getting a B3 dont either...

If I got a b3, I would keep it... it may just be better than a g0 (as some users have reported on this forum).

sites sell q6600s... not g0s and not b3s... you get what you get.

Diverge

07-27-2007, 09:43 PM

They *should* be shipping out 8/6. We should have them in hand by the 3rd, but won't have time to re-ship all those orders that day ;)

how about just the first 50? :D

hecktic

07-27-2007, 11:41 PM

NCIX

SKU Description Qty
1. 22211 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Kentsfield 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 8MB Retail Box 1

Barcode: 22211 157040 166 S/N: BX80562Q6600SL9UM 07-26-07 05:38 PM

Bunch of crap... :-(

B3 :down:

i thought it was 1.35v
interesting

It could be anywhere between 1.100V-1.372V on either chip version, B3 or G0. I believe it also depends on your batch number. Certain batches I think are getting binned at 1.350 while others are at 1.305 etc. As funny as it sounds, it is true there are going to be batches with stock vCore at only 1.100v. I know this because I have seen many chips out there with different vcores all within that range, plus I have some of my own C2Ds which can boot at an astonishing low voltage and be 100% stable. For example I have an e6300 which will only need 1.20 (after vdroop) on core while the FSB stays at 1.200 up until around 385 ~ 395 FSB.

The next thing we will see is TankGuys selling chips per the vCore rating or per specific batch lol... and I am serious.. I would certainly pay top dollar to pick and choose my chips. Lower voltages being stable is always a good thing.

zoob

07-28-2007, 08:41 AM

Yeah I was thinking of keeping the B3 since I do want a Quad Core. I wonder how long until someone makes an "Official B3 but we originally wanted G0 so let's stick it to them with our better clocks" thread. :D

jjk454ss

07-28-2007, 09:03 AM

I got B3 from ncix.com DAMMMMMMMMM IT!. I ordered it on July 25.

Same here, ordered July 25 from NCIX, and according to the tracking info I am getting a B3. Smart of them to ship out some new G0's and get everyone talking, then ship out the B3's after they get a ton of orders.

SLINROB

07-28-2007, 09:07 AM

Same here, ordered July 25 from NCIX, and according to the tracking info I am getting a B3. Smart of them to ship out some new G0's and get everyone talking, then ship out the B3's after they get a ton of orders.

I actually had an order placed with them but after 15 minutes of having an uneasy feeling in my stomach I decided to cancel the order. LOL.

I will just be patient and wait on my guaranteed G0 from tankguys:)

sergers

07-28-2007, 09:18 AM

Same here, ordered July 25 from NCIX, and according to the tracking info I am getting a B3. Smart of them to ship out some new G0's and get everyone talking, then ship out the B3's after they get a ton of orders.

these "overclockers" are such whiners... People who have ordered that same day got g0s aswell, people who ordered the day before got some g0s, and people who ordered after got g0s. as its been clearly explained already.

they probably sold over 1000 units, and how many people have posted they have got a g0 or b3? barely any when you consider they sold over a 1000 in a few days....

so you to say they only shipped g0s, and then b3s is asinine... as only a handful of people said what they got....

SLINROB

07-28-2007, 09:36 AM

these "overclockers" are such whiners...

Do not generalize, not all of us overclockers are whiners.;)

sergers

07-28-2007, 10:08 AM

Do not generalize, not all of us overclockers are whiners.;)

definately not... I was just referring to the people complaining... who claim to be enthusiasts...

I have nothing wrong with overclockers =p as I do plenty myself.

SLINROB

07-28-2007, 10:28 AM

definately not... I was just referring to the people complaining... who claim to be enthusiasts...

I have nothing wrong with overclockers =p as I do plenty myself.

Cool then:up:

I am trying to be as patient as I can and wait on Tankguys to get my G0 Q6600 but its getting harder and harder to wait. LOL.

spinejam

07-28-2007, 12:29 PM

"Xeon Up X3220 LGA775 2.40GHz 65nm 1066MHz 8MB"

http://www.provantage.com/intel-bx80562x3220~7ITEP2HC.htm

how do these overclock compared to the Core2 Quad's?

SLINROB

07-28-2007, 12:35 PM

"Xeon Up X3220 LGA775 2.40GHz 65nm 1066MHz 8MB"

http://www.provantage.com/intel-bx80562x3220~7ITEP2HC.htm

how do these overclock compared to the Core2 Quad's?

They are roughly the same.

IntruderII

07-28-2007, 12:35 PM

Well I scored a G0 from NCIXUS, they shipped it on the 27th :D
Tracking number says I should have it by the 2nd

SLINROB

07-28-2007, 12:36 PM

Well I scored a G0 from NCIXUS, they shipped it on the 27th :D
Tracking number says I should have it by the 2nd

I am almost tempted to try my luck, how long did it take for them to send you an invoice after placing your order?

IntruderII

07-28-2007, 12:38 PM

SLINROB

07-28-2007, 12:42 PM

I ordered on the 24th, they shipped it on the 27th at 10AM, but I didn't get the invoice until about 8PM.

How long it takes depends on which warehouse they send the order to, and which warehouse will also effect your chance of G0 or B3.

Forget it, im not spending 3 days losing sleep and pulling my hair out because im wondering if I get a G0 or not. LOL.

I will stick with my preorder from tankguys. I just need to chill out a little.

nicepun

07-28-2007, 03:02 PM

This palce http://www.antaresdigital.com/customer/home.php has a specific product number for the G0 which is about $20 more than the B3 but I've never heard of this place.

SLINROB

07-28-2007, 05:46 PM

This palce http://www.antaresdigital.com/customer/home.php has a specific product number for the G0 which is about $20 more than the B3 but I've never heard of this place.

I would order one but I am afraid to as I have also never heard of this place.

1badhabit

07-28-2007, 05:50 PM

This palce http://www.antaresdigital.com/customer/home.php has a specific product number for the G0 which is about $20 more than the B3 but I've never heard of this place.

As I never heard of them, I do like how they post the Part #'s, so you'll know which product you'll get before you pay.

SLINROB

07-28-2007, 05:53 PM

As I never heard of them, I do like how they post the Part #'s, so you'll know which product you'll get before you pay.

Man you cant find a contact phone number or anything from them on their website and imo that is not a good sign.:down:

flyfisher

07-28-2007, 08:00 PM

They have phone numbers listed in their FAQ here. (http://www.antaresdigital.com/customer/help.php?section=FAQ)

SLINROB

07-28-2007, 08:07 PM

They have phone numbers listed in their FAQ here. (http://www.antaresdigital.com/customer/help.php?section=FAQ)

Cool, thanks. Im still not to keen on ordering from them though.

strange|ife

07-28-2007, 09:26 PM

berdde

07-28-2007, 09:54 PM

I would order one but I am afraid to as I have also never heard of this place.

Search Antares at this forum and you will find some good comments.

I almost pull the trigger. But right before I hit Submit Order, saw this "Take back order only, estimate ship time is around 8/10/2007" in item detail. :p:

dab420

07-28-2007, 11:09 PM

Check this out:

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD3212&vpn=BX80562Q6600&manufacture=INTEL

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Kentsfield 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 8MB Retail Box *Slacr Steppings Only*

Clint

07-28-2007, 11:22 PM

just got mine in today, 2 days early. From NCIXUS, standard ground shipping 19$.

pic below with my trusty glock 19 in foreground:D

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i970061_q6600G0.jpeg (http://www.imagehosting.com)

kinda of blurry, was taken witha blackberry.

That gun is really not needed, and with the ammoclip next to it..you wanna prove it's real huh?.!:mad:

Try stick to computerhardware posts here, there are plenty of forums for that killinghardware stuff where you can show-off your gun....:down:

fallwind

07-28-2007, 11:58 PM

Check this out:

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD3212&vpn=BX80562Q6600&manufacture=INTEL

Try adding it to your cart, you'll get an SQL Error. Exact same thing happened 2 days ago.

crazyea

07-29-2007, 12:06 AM

Check this out:

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD3212&vpn=BX80562Q6600&manufacture=INTEL

This is the same company as NCIX, just run under a different name. :)

BTW I walked into ncix and picked one up. I have had nothing but trouble getting this chip to run bug free on my p5w dh, commando or, evga 690i. (All run great with my e6600). Random lockups, blue screens, missing hard drives, very slow memory performance, etc, etc.

Damn, you would think that a nice stable bios would have been ready at launch.....Geez.

hippopotamus

07-29-2007, 01:22 AM

This is the same company as NCIX, just run under a different name.

"Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Kentsfield 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 8MB Retail Box *Slacr Steppings Only* "

Cashing in while they can under a new name? So it's possible to separate G0's from B3's afterall. Hilarious :-)

Same here, ordered July 25 from NCIX, and according to the tracking info I am getting a B3. Smart of them to ship out some new G0's and get everyone talking, then ship out the B3's after they get a ton of orders.

Yup.

gaspimp

07-29-2007, 01:47 AM

pic below with my trusty glock 19 in foreground:D

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i970061_q6600G0.jpeg (http://www.imagehosting.com)

My two favorite things. Well done sir:up:

lixuelai

07-29-2007, 02:14 AM

As I never heard of them, I do like how they post the Part #'s, so you'll know which product you'll get before you pay.

They are a small site but pretty reputable. I bought a Asus P5W in August of last year from them. Never heard of them either but they were located in Edison NJ and I live in West Windsor NJ (30min drive). Had them ship to my college address and it worked out pretty well. Still $310 for a G0, looking for <$300.

strange|ife

07-29-2007, 02:28 AM

My two favorite things. Well done sir:up:

thank you.

sofarfrome

07-29-2007, 04:51 AM

just got mine in today, 2 days early. From NCIXUS, standard ground shipping 19$.

pic below with my trusty glock 19 in foreground:D

kinda of blurry, was taken witha blackberry.

Nice Glock...I love my Glock 10

shiznit93

07-29-2007, 04:59 AM

:clap: @ the Glock 19. I always wanted one but thanks to my limited budged had to settle for a Ruger P95.

strange|ife

07-29-2007, 05:14 AM

Nice Glock...I love my Glock 10

I own a Ruger p95 DC aswell, very nice gun. in fact one of the best 9mm pistols for under 400 dollars. built like a tank

glock 10?

yeah the glock 19 is a very nice, compact arm.

Looking to get a glock 23 next year. Would like a glock 18(select fire) but they are nearly impossible to obtain. They are legal in neveda though, just pricey..

anyway! i may have killed this thread

celemine1Gig

07-29-2007, 06:32 AM

That gun is really not needed, and with the ammoclip next to it..you wanna prove it's real huh?.!:mad:

Try stick to computerhardware posts here, there are plenty of forums for that killinghardware stuff where you can show-off your gun....:down:

Nevermind Clint. Most of the time we Europeans just can't understand the need to have weapons all around you. It's an all American thing. You don't really need to understand.

Weapons are a sign of weakness anyway, IMHO. If you can't compete using your brain, mouth and fists, then you have got to let the bullets speak.
But that's just my :2cents: .

And now, please get back to topic and stop the gun-talk. It's about Intel G0-Stepping Quadcores if I'm not mistaking. So please talk about that. ;)

Brother Esau

07-29-2007, 06:43 AM

Guns???? Whatcha gonna do with that? Don't you guys realize that once you make that decission you cannot take it back? Boy are todays youth mislead! One thing you never want in you're life is to live with knowing that you took another human beings life!!! Get a Baseball Bat instead....stilll very effective:D

Icer

07-29-2007, 06:59 AM

This Should be Clint's favorite gun...S&W 44Mag:D

BBA

07-29-2007, 08:39 AM

I ended up with a B3 from zzf, im not really trippin though cuz i just wanted a quad core, and i have 3 systems here to put quads in. Hopefully the nest 2 will be g0's.

and about the guns? why does a pic of a gun bother you people?
and calling someone a pussy for owning a gun?

i tell ya what i am a pussy and if you scare me bad enough i will KILL YOU!!! :shocked: :rofl:

guns are what made this country (america), and it is every citizens right to own them. Just cuz we own guns doesnt mean we cant still kick yer ass with our fists.

**/end of rant

anyways back to q6600 like i said i recieved a L712A B3 thats running 3g at the moment.

~BBA

Ohlins

07-29-2007, 09:34 AM

anyone in UK ordered and recieved a G0?

Wait for someone to confirm if this is true, but OCUK are selling two different Q6600's, one of which is the 'Energy Efficient' version which I believe is the G0. As I said though, I don't know this for sure.

12 quid difference in price though. :(

Regular Q6600 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-143-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=793)
Possible G0 Q6600 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-161-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=793)

fatty

07-29-2007, 10:05 AM

Yup its true but no stock has arrived YET, I don't know anywhere to find one in the UK

SiGfever

07-29-2007, 10:32 AM

Now this is a gun... :D

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2986/phalanxsw1.jpg

nicepun

07-29-2007, 10:35 AM

Now this is a gun... :D

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2986/phalanxsw1.jpg

Well, that's a CIWS AKA R2D2, but you can't have one at home unless you live onboard....LOL

AndyM

07-29-2007, 12:43 PM

Come on... this is Xtreme Systems, where no Glock with a stock 15 round mag is allowed, only 33 round G18 mags are considered the norm here. Get wit' the program! :p:

dab420

07-29-2007, 12:56 PM

Wow, the cart works at DirectCanada now too!!

SLINROB

07-29-2007, 01:34 PM

Wow, the cart works at DirectCanada now too!!

They dont offer US shipping do they?

synergy

07-29-2007, 02:09 PM

Any chance we can keep the thread *ON TOPIC*???

Forsaken1

07-29-2007, 02:33 PM

Tankguys billed for Q6600 G0.Maybe they will ship tomorrow:clap: .

SLINROB

07-29-2007, 06:56 PM

Tankguys billed for Q6600 G0.Maybe they will ship tomorrow:clap: .

Really? oh boy, better get mine paid in full in the next couple of days:up:

Shepherd

07-29-2007, 07:47 PM

They dont offer US shipping do they?

No they dont.

rithina

07-29-2007, 09:21 PM

Is there any G0 Stepping of the quad that do international shipping?

treatmentx

07-29-2007, 09:23 PM

Screenshots screenshots!

krameriffic

07-29-2007, 10:11 PM

Tankguys billed for Q6600 G0.Maybe they will ship tomorrow:clap: .

I read in another post on here that they will be trying to ship out all of the preorders by August 6.

jkresh

07-29-2007, 10:29 PM

GameGuru

07-29-2007, 10:39 PM

kramerific,Forsaken, the last official thing I saw posted was that they expect to get the chips in by this Friday (8/03) and that they will ship the following Monday. I guess it is possible that they have gotten some/all in earlier and will be shipping out this week. At the moment i still haven't decided on a board (striker/evga 680i, p5k premium/asus blitz formula) so I am not too worried as to if it will be early this week or early next week. I dont like switching to a consumer level chipset (p35) but it appears to be clocking better hten the 680i's in most cases (though some have gotten 400/450+ fsb with the 680i's so who knows).

Same here, I'm thinking of waiting for the x38 chipset to come out which I heard should be out late next month. I would like the clocking capabilities of the P5K DLX but with SLI. Any thoughts people? Oh yeah and I'll be getting my Q6600 (G0) from Tank Guys soon as I was 35th on a list of few hundred. :D

Freebo

07-29-2007, 11:56 PM

Bought one from Scan.co.uk, should be here wednesday, *fingers crossed*

shiznit93

07-30-2007, 12:11 AM

Nevermind Clint. Most of the time we Europeans just can't understand the need to have weapons all around you. It's an all American thing. You don't really need to understand.

Weapons are a sign of weakness anyway, IMHO. If you can't compete using your brain, mouth and fists, then you have got to let the bullets speak.
But that's just my :2cents: .

And now, please get back to topic and stop the gun-talk. It's about Intel G0-Stepping Quadcores if I'm not mistaking. So please talk about that. ;)
As someone who was born and grew up in Europe but lived in the US for 12 years now i can try to answer that for you. Yes a lot of americans have an obsession with guns and I dont understand it (I know a few people who own 10+ firearms). But you have to remember that wildlife is everywhere here (deer run through my back yard sometimes and I am only 20 miles from Washington D.C. and its jungle of suburbs). Many people hunt, which requires guns, and this alone changes the whole society's perception about guns and they are not even thought of as instuments of death, but tools such a hammer or a knife. As for pistols, while I have one (ruger p95), I would give it up in a minute if everyone gave them up. Sadly, too many people already have them and there is no going back, and in many violent cities in the US (violence you can't find in any European city, Baltimore MD 30 miles away has 2-3 murders daily) if you don't have a gun for protection you are putting yourself at risk IMO. The whole thing about using your fists and head doesn' really help when thugs with automatics break into your home. We could maybe reverse course if the whole country made an effort to do so, but too many people equate guns with freedom and any politician who tries to implement gun control on a wide level gets crucified. Sorry about the rant, I'm bored waiting for my G0 to arrive.

strange|ife

07-30-2007, 03:13 AM

This Should be Clint's favorite gun...S&W 44Mag:D

ROFL

nice mag.

i have a Ruger Gp100 .357...makes my epenis grow when it fires.

what VID does your chip have

strange|ife

07-30-2007, 03:17 AM

celemine1Gig

07-30-2007, 03:35 AM

It's absolutely useless to discuss this topic here.

Icer

07-30-2007, 04:33 AM

ROFL

nice mag.

i have a Ruger Gp100 .357...makes my epenis grow when it fires.

what VID does your chip have

Thx

My VID is 1.30

MKM

07-30-2007, 06:43 AM

Well, that's a CIWS AKA R2D2, but you can't have one at home unless you live onboard....LOL
I guess he could always fit one on his roof if he lives in a house.

This Should be Clint's favorite gun...S&W 44Mag:D
LOL at that picture, I wonder what Intel would say about it...