advise for mobo

[[XC] leviathan18]

ok i think my mobo is dead... so i need a new one because ive been 1 week down and really dont wanna be more so i want p35 chipset any ideas ???

[njkid32]

I'm having great luck with my Gigabyte GA P35 DS3R (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050). I took a cpu that was stuck at 3.2ghz on my dfi-s dark board to 3.6ghz solid on the DS3R. Great fsb capabilities.. You can see more of my progress in this thread here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=149881).

[أشرف]

How about abit IP35 Pro?

[njkid32]

Well it also depends on the price range. The Abit is quite a few dollars and wont stay in stock very long on Newegg. The Gigabyte is only $130 on Newegg so I think its the better deal.. Now, FUGGER runs the Abit IP35-E and says its a great board. Thats only $150 on Newegg. So its really a matter of preference and price range.

[أشرف]

This should help you to make a decision on what P35 board you should get.

Review: Eight P35-DDR2 Motherboards Compared (http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/19/eight_p35-ddr2_motherboards_compared/index.html)

[njkid32]

OMG my eyes my eyes.. TOMS HARDWARE OH THE HORROR!:rofl:

[أشرف]

OMG my eyes my eyes.. TOMS HARDWARE OH THE HORROR!:rofl:

What? Is Tom's Hardware not good? :shrug:

[njkid32]

Naaa, I was just kidding... To tell you the truth I've heard both good and bad from there so idk:D

[adamsleath]

i keep seeing guys walking out of stores with one of these under their arm :) probably because of its price: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R

[أشرف]

You said FUGGER runs Abit IP35-E? I checked his signature, it says IP35-Pro?

[njkid32]

He may have changed.. But, he was running it for awhile and said it was a very good board.

[[XC] leviathan18]

biased very biased ...... money aint issue after i paid 300 ish bucks for this stupid mobo im pretty sure bios is dead but i could be wrong ram and gpu are fine tested on another machine....

if fugger use abit maybe i could buy abit also i have to find it in amazon easier for me to buy and i dont have to bother MM

[أشرف]

Damn, he must have a lot of boards! :shocked:

[njkid32]

If money isnt an issue Levi then get the GIGABYTE GA-P35-DQ6 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128046)....

[أشرف]

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DQ6 seems a best board right now.

Oh, wow. I have never seen this before. Very cool!

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-128-046-05.jpg

[njkid32]

Yeah, its a pretty damn good board. I felt that for the money the DS3R would be great for a cruncher.. Thats all it really does. DDTUNG has one as well with a Q6600 G0 ES cpu thats doing VERY well.

[adamsleath]

r there different versions of that dq6...like rev3.3 rev1.0...others?
is 3.3 better?

[[XC] leviathan18]

well i think i have to bother MM as there is pure crap in amazon lol

[NaeKuh]

How about abit IP35 Pro?

Skip the pro. if its a crunching machine.

The IP35-E has been showing off it can do almost what the pro can, with 114 dollar price tag.

Thats newegg price btw.

[[XC] gomeler]

DS3R FTW :) I'm honestly sold on Gigabyte mid-range boards, the P35 DS3 seems to be following in the footsteps of the P965 DS3 asides from it's nasty D9 episode.

[Emerica]

If you can spend the cash I would say GA-P35-DQ6 or Asus P5K Deluxe.

[أشرف]

Skip the pro. if its a crunching machine.

The IP35-E has been showing off it can do almost what the pro can, with 114 dollar price tag.

Thats newegg price btw.

Oh, really? I think I am behind, but what is the difference between IP35-E and IP35-Pro?

Funny, I have never bought any brand motherboard, only ASUS motherboards.

[Movieman]

leviathan18;2301397']well i think i have to bother MM as there is pure crap in amazon lol

You blew up that beautiful Asus P5W64-Pro board?:cord:
What happenned? Yea, I'm here if you need me..
Then I can toss your Petra's pen in the box!:D

[NaeKuh]

Oh, really? I think I am behind, but what is the difference between IP35-E and IP35-Pro?

Funny, I have never bought any brand motherboard, only ASUS motherboards.

2nd PCI-E and copper heat pipes on the PRO

The mosfet layout looks idental otherwise.

Pro:
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-127-030-04.jpg

E:
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-127-031-05.jpg


So if its a crunching machine who cares about the 2nd PCI-E

IF its your main rig, the 2nd PCI-E might come in hand. However, Xfire sucks compared to SLI.

[[XC] 4X4N]

Another vote for the Gigabyte DS3R. I haven't had much time to really play with it, but I have a e6400 running 8x425, ram on 4:5 divider, 4-4-4-12. I don't think I spent more than an hour setting it up, and it's been crunching away for about a week now. Seems to run cooler than the P5B Deluxe also.

[TTmodder]

I'd recommend the gigabyte ds3r as well. I've assembled 2 machines with that board for friends, and one of them is overclocked, and the other is running as a ut2k4 server. And they are dang stable compared to the price. If it wasn't because i'm in the need of a lappy i'd proberly choose the same mobo because of the bang for the buck it gives :up:

[kiwi]

p5k dlx, p5k-e, gb p35 ds3r, dq6, abit ip35pro are all great boards :)

[sierra_bound]

I think one has to differentiate what's a good board for overclocking versus folding. Also, a lot depends on whether the board is going to be used for more than folding. A few boards out there are good for both folding and overclocking, but have other issues like audio problems, etc. Very few boards can do everything well.

[njkid32]

Agreed guys.. Like sierra said in his other thread he uses his P5k DLX for a daily and does other things on it. I only use my as a file server and a cruncher so I dont need all the extra's. So, if its a daily machine that you'll be listen to music and whatever else;) The more expensive boards will do just fine. If its only a cruncher then go with the "cheaper" board cuz you dont really need all the bells and whistles.

[sierra_bound]

I've been using the P5K Deluxe for over a month and have had zero problems. Ditto with the P5B Deluxe and the eVGA 680i. I know a lot of people hate Asus. But I still think they make the best Intel-based boards. A very well-known tech person who works for another company has said the same thing in private. Won't reveal his name.;) The only board-maker that's in the same class, in my opinion, is Intel itself. This is not a knock against Gigabyte or anyone else. But I can only offer an opinion based on my personal experience.

[NaeKuh]

people hate the 680i

I am one of them. Dont get the 680i

Nvidia should be shot for making it. Its a buggy POS, which cant hold stable voltages longer then 6-8 months tops.

I burnt out my 680i running WCG for 5 months. P35 FTW! if you need SLI, id wait a bit for the X38 and see if SLI does support it. I doubt it because NVIDIA as a company is a whore.

The G80's are still awesome in my book, but i dont like having a nuclear furnace which pumps out more heat then my quadcore overclocked. Heres waiting for the G90's. :T

[adamsleath]

just guessing; but asus would make the 'most' boards wouldnt they?

i reckon gigabyte would be the 2nd largest seller...then the rest?

that's my impression based on the marketing...dont know the real figures.

im finished with nvidia chipsets for now.

i'm looking for an intel chipset with a good mobo that has some longevity in it.

i seem to kill my motherboards...and it's not like i am using them as frisbees b4 i kill them :hehe: i am very careful....but the ones ive had just seem to be jerry built p's os. 2 were asus one was dfi.

thinking about trying a gigabyte....maybe the dq6 - i see the 3.3rev is advertised - presumeably this is the latest/best.
or the ds3r

im wondering what would be better - the ds3r or a p5k vanilla - from a build quality point of view rather than bells and whistles?

[njkid32]

people hate the 680i

I am one of them. Dont get the 680i

Nvidia should be shot for making it. Its a buggy POS, which cant hold stable voltages longer then 6-8 months tops.

I burnt out my 680i running WCG for 5 months. P35 FTW! if you need SLI, id wait a bit for the X38 and see if SLI does support it. I doubt it because NVIDIA as a company is a whore.

The G80's are still awesome in my book, but i dont like having a nuclear furnace which pumps out more heat then my quadcore overclocked. Heres waiting for the G90's. :T

Ya, know I picked an eVga 680i board up from Fry's when they first came out (DAMNIT, I miss Fry's) and I thought it was one of the best boards out.. My reason was that you could configure your memory independently. This is a major plus for the board aside from all the bugs its got. You know its hard when your testing a new cpu, memory and board. So, by having that memory option it allows you to take the memory out of the equation and concentrate on your cpu and board:D But, sad to say I did return it:D

I find myself going back to this Gigabyte DS3R and am quite happy with it:D

[[XC] leviathan18]

well its my cruncher gaming and daily user so i need something good i love my pw64 pro but dead is useless

[njkid32]

Then either the DQ or the P5K DLX would work for you.. You'll have to compare the two and see which you'd like better:D

[SiGfever]

I have always been an Asus man but bought my BadAxe2 for my e6600 because of reviews in the "Intel Section". I really like this board and it has been rock solid.

When I get my Q6600 I will use the BadAxe2 and buy the GigaByte P35 board that Eric suggested for one of my servers to use the e6600.

[NaeKuh]

im itching to try out the abit IP35-E. Drop some mosfet coolers, the ones thermalright makes.

Because it wont fit on my Gigabyte P35, but i think it would fit on the abit.


It was a sad day, i spent 40 dollars on mosfet coolers that wont fit. :[

[sierra_bound]

Rule #1 - Don't buy a motherboard based on forum hype.

Rule #2 - Don't buy a motherboard for folding based on someone's else benching results. Benching and folding are two different things.

Regarding the eVGA 680i, I beg to differ with an earlier post here. My board has been folding non-stop for months with no real issues. There is a XS moderator who also likes the board. So when I see posts like "People hate blah-blah-blah", I take it with a grain of salt.

[Reinvented]

I love my eVGA 680i board also. Really solid board. Very limited problems if you tweak it just right. Been running 24/7 for a while now just crunching along.

[Brother Esau]

Well thats very good to hear considering!

[NaeKuh]

Rule #1 - Don't buy a motherboard based on forum hype.

Rule #2 - Don't buy a motherboard for folding based on someone's else benching results. Benching and folding are two different things.

Regarding the eVGA 680i, I beg to differ with an earlier post here. My board has been folding non-stop for months with no real issues. There is a XS moderator who also likes the board. So when I see posts like "People hate blah-blah-blah", I take it with a grain of salt.

well, then lemme rub some of that salt on my wound and tell you the crap i went though with this board. Im just praying this RMA will last long enough for the DFI X38 or a Gigabyte X38. Ive reciently fell in love with gigabyte, but the Abit IP35 is so darn cheap, its almost irresistable as a crunching config.

1. my 680i board had a nasty fsb wall from 376-399. Wouldnt boot at any voltage, but hey, i thought all boards had it.

2. My Gigabyte P35 has no such wall, and what i thought was my crappy quadcore ended up being the better quadcore.

3. My previous A1 revision underwent a mighty nasty vdroop. This vdroop steadily grew more and more. I know it aint my PSU, because its a PCnC, And its pumping strong on the new RMA. Oh how nasty of a vdroop your asking? about .2-.3 at peaks. It crashes when it droops that low.

4. EAR is only given to you ONCE. After you use it, you need to either pay 10.99 for it, or you need to mail your board back first. <--- not complaining because they cant do it all the time, but they should offer a Advance RMA option for boards.

5. The northbridge on this sucker gets outragously hot. A lot hotter then the P35 i recon.

6. they tried to screw over a lot of people on the T1 versions with a 570 SPP instead of the 590SPP which came on the A1 versions. Nvidia mentions absolutely nothing about this, and it was discovered on EVGA forums.

7. I didnt buy this board on hype. I wanted a great overclocking quadcore board with SLI. This was the only option at that time. Im going to play freezbie with it as soon as the X38 comes out.


Do i need to go on?

[adamsleath]

680 has a hot nb which needs some cooling attention for higher fsb....but it isnt that hard to get 450+ stable on it.

i never tried a quad on it; i suppoose its fine so long as you dont expect a miraculous oc of a quad.

but .2 /.3 vdroop is ridikkilus

im glad i have an intel chipset now ;)

im wondering if anyone can tell me about vdroop on a giga p35 board? (my p5k has a bit of droop .05 approx.)

one thing about my striker: it had only .02 vdroop at load with no mods.

[[XC] 4X4N]

Vdroop is about the same for me on the D3SR. 1.5 in bios gets me around 1.46 at load, going by speedfan for voltages. Same chip on my P5B-D with pencil vdroop mod only needed 1.45 selected in bios. Memory clocks better with the P35, and the northbridge runs cooler.

[jspace]

I haven't been overly impressed with nvidia's Intel chipsets. They make excellent AMD chipsets, though. My main rig was nForce 4 (it died now, I think a fet burned out or something), my mom uses a 6100 chipset (the ones with the horrid IGP, but hey, it works with Aero:shrug:), and that Soltek board that mike sent me (it magically started working when my main rig died!) is pretty nice. I got that 2200+ Barton to 2.3Ghz and benched the snot out of it the last few days (that's why I haven't been around). It netted me quite a few hwboints:D

Edit: I could get more points if I were to take the time to find my 64MB Geforce 2 :D

[[XC] Jaco]

4X4N;2309213']Vdroop is about the same for me on the D3SR. 1.5 in bios gets me around 1.46 at load, going by speedfan for voltages. Same chip on my P5B-D with pencil vdroop mod only needed 1.45 selected in bios. Memory clocks better with the P35, and the northbridge runs cooler.

Is this with a quadcore or dualcore ? 0.04v that's quite ok.
From my experience the quads cause a bigger vdroop than dualcores.

[[XC] 4X4N]

Dual core, e6400. I have a preorder for a G0 Q6600 that I will be using with this board, I'll see if it's any different.

[[XC] leviathan18]

me think maybe im gonna buy the asus dlx really dont know yet as i dont want a pos mobo :(

[adamsleath]

well i think they are all pos :lol:
p5k-e has 8 phase power apparently.
p5k-d similar?? with a few extra plugs n chips.

dfi have a p35 coming out dont they?
if it ever arrives.