E6850 "G0" on EVGA 680i AR

[EnJoY]

Got my new ES E6850 "G0" in today and decided to clean out the radiator at the same time. I also found that EVGA had released a new P29 bios designed specifically for these new chips, so I flashed that as well. I have only been in windows for around ~30mins, so I don't have any testing done. But here's a nice stock cpu-z/core temp shot. Overclocking results to arrive shortly...I promise. ;)

http://enjoy.nickfire.com/e6850es.jpg

Look at that idle temp...

Specs are the following:

CPU: E6850 (ES) G0 @ stock (1.3v set in bios)
Mobo: EVGA 680i rev. AR w/ P29 bios
RAM: Corsair 2x1GB PC2-10000C5 @ 3-3-3-6-1T 2.1v
VGA: BFG 7950GT
PSU: OCZ Powerstream 600w
Cooling: Water. ;)

(EDIT: Check posts #55 for 4GHz prime, and #68 for 4.27GHz max!)

[safan80]

try 9x400 and lets see those temps!

[NaeKuh]

Got my new ES E6850 "G0" in today and decided to clean out the radiator at the same time. I also found that EVGA had released a new P29 bios designed specifically for these new chips, so I flashed that as well. I have only been in windows for around ~30mins, so I don't have any testing done. But here's a nice stock cpu-z/core temp shot. Overclocking results to arrive shortly...I promise. ;)

Look at that idle temp...

Specs are the following:

CPU: E6850 (ES) G0 @ stock (1.3v set in bios)
Mobo: EVGA 680i rev. AR w/ P29 bios
RAM: Corsair 2x1GB PC2-10000C5 @ 3-3-3-6-1T 2.1v
VGA: BFG 7950GT
PSU: OCZ Powerstream 600w
Cooling: Water. ;)


Uhhh... you are one lucky person to have ambients lower then 16C

Its hot as hell on the west coast. :\

[EnJoY]

try 9x400 and lets see those temps!

Idle
http://enjoy.nickfire.com/e6850es_9x400_135v.jpg

Load
http://enjoy.nickfire.com/e6850es_9x400_prime.jpg


E6850 "G0" @ 3600MHz ~1.35v :cool:

33c load... :up:

[orion23]

Not so impressive considering some E6600's can reach 3.6ghz with 1.35V or less, and that's a jump from 2.4ghz = 1.2ghz overclock

With the E6850 @ 3.0ghz, that's only a 600mhz overclock with about the same voltage!

[louie101086]

damn that great will it clock higher perhaps 4ghz

[XtremeTiramisu]

Not so impressive considering some E6600 can reach 3.6ghz with 1.35V or less, and that's a jump from 2.4ghz = 1.2ghz overclock

With the E6850 @ 3.0ghz, that's only a 600mhz overclock with about the same voltage!

Good point.

Almost everyone of us already has a C2D B2 stepping. The reason that makes us attracted to the new G0 stepping C2D or C2Q is not really the native 1333FSB but it's actually the lower voltage requirment from the chip clock for lock. I'd really love to see more and more solid OC results on G0 C2D/C2Q that runs cooler with lower volts clock for clock = higher OC-ability.

[Supertim0r]

4ghz prime stable next ! :yepp:

[GripS]

I was noting the same thing from another guy here with a 6850. Everyone drooling over the 4+ghz. Unfortunately it took almost 1.6v+ to get there. Thus far i'm not too impressed with the infamous 'G0' stepping. I like many other people here expected higher clocks on stock volts.

[Envydia007]

I myself dont care about idle temp. We want 4GHz in orthos plus core temp readings in full load :D :D

[scwam]

How did you get a 6850 when you live in the US? Do you have friends in Europe to ship to you?

[ChOmP]

I was noting the same thing from another guy here with a 6850. Everyone drooling over the 4+ghz. Unfortunately it took almost 1.6v+ to get there. Thus far i'm not too impressed with the infamous 'G0' stepping. I like many other people here expected higher clocks on stock volts.

Huh? He did 4ghz at 1.49v not 1.6. Here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2292839&postcount=42

[YukonTrooper]

How did you get a 6850 when you live in the US? Do you have friends in Europe to ship to you?
He has a time machine dude, haven't you heard?

[dinos22]

i know these run cooler but i've also noticed with newer CPUs some of the temp probes must be faulty as they are idling at the same or less temps than ambient :)

so please report your ambient there and exact cooling setup :)

[The Nemesis]

Another ES G0 stepping thread :rolleyes: I sure hope we're not all getting excited for nothing. Now crank that thing to 4Ghz on air and run orthos:D

[EnJoY]

4GHz is certainly possible...but for how long?

http://enjoy.nickfire.com/e6850es_9x445_155v.jpg

Here's me just into windows. Since then I quickly ran pi 1m and now I think I am going to load up prime and call it a night. To be very honest, I don't see it being stable at this voltage for prime (1.55v). I should also mention that the temperatures at this speed and voltage are much more normal now (50c load), but still way cooler than my old Allendale, and it was lapped!

I'll update tomorrow with the best results I can get at 4GHz and beyond (if the board and chip will continue to cooperate. ;)

Oh, and for those who are wondering whether or not the results from this chip will represent retail, I have no idea, in my experience ES's usually don't, but there are always exceptions. All I know is, I'm having fun. :D

[ineedaname]

I'm sorry but what kind of water cooling is this? Are you using a TEC?

Also what are your ambient temps for those?

Unless you're using a TEC I REALLY doubt those temps are real. No offense to you or anything as I really do appreciate your posting. I'm just really skeptical about whether core temp is reporting accurate temps.

[Solarfall]

where do people find these ES samples ??
btw sweet temps EnJoY... keep tweaking bro. :up:

[DMH]

ES can probably be found in E-Bay;)

[EnJoY]

ES can be found from many people, you just have to know who they are and be in their trust.

As for the ocing, the board is giving me some stability problems right now, I'm gonna try a few more things. Prime was a big no no at 4ghz with that voltage with a hard reset. We'll see what I have to do to get it stable.

[EnJoY]

I'm sorry but what kind of water cooling is this? Are you using a TEC?

Also what are your ambient temps for those?

Unless you're using a TEC I REALLY doubt those temps are real. No offense to you or anything as I really do appreciate your posting. I'm just really skeptical about whether core temp is reporting accurate temps.

The watercooling is a AquaXtreme MP05-LE cpu block, a Swiftech MCW60 gpu block, a Laing D5 pump, and a Black Ice Pro 3 radiator with Yate Loons. :cool:

[aussie-revhead]

Good work there son , keep it going :up:


Another ES G0 stepping thread I sure hope we're not all getting excited for nothing.

Of course we are excited - some people are impossible to please...


Not so impressive considering some E6600's can reach 3.6ghz with 1.35V or less,

yeah what percentage of all c2d can do that? We have plenty of overclockers here in Aus and I bet we dont even have one here that can do that...


Australia Coke FTW!!!

LOL @ Cathar


:rolleyes:

[ziddey]

canadian sprite sucks compared to us sprite. i think their coke sucked too, but i don't recall. at least not as much as their sprite.

[YukonTrooper]

canadian sprite sucks compared to us sprite. i think their coke sucked too, but i don't recall. at least not as much as their sprite.
Your right. US Sprite and Coke probably contains twice the sugar and therefore tastes better. Fine with me, look at the obesity in the States :).

You should concentrate on where it counts. US beer sucks compared to Canadian beer. +10 for Canada.

BTW how did you manage to start talking about Sprite and Coke in a thread about a processor?

[Emerica]

Wow man you've got some really nice temps on that chip. Good luck getting 4GHZ stable.

[ziddey]

yukon, i agree with you. us beer sucks ass.

[ziddey]

white beers for life

and 4ghz for life as well

what's a famous american white beer? blue moon? lol what a joke

[YukonTrooper]

Lol, this thread got off topic rather quick. BTW there is a e6850 for sale on eBay. Some guy from Australia is selling the chip for about $550. It is not an auction style sale it is only "Buy It Now". Just search "e6850".

[KiD0M4N]

Got my new ES E6850 "G0" in today and decided to clean out the radiator at the same time. I also found that EVGA had released a new P29 bios designed specifically for these new chips, so I flashed that as well. I have only been in windows for around ~30mins, so I don't have any testing done. But here's a nice stock cpu-z/core temp shot. Overclocking results to arrive shortly...I promise. ;)

http://enjoy.nickfire.com/e6850es.jpg

Look at that idle temp...

Specs are the following:

CPU: E6850 (ES) G0 @ stock (1.3v set in bios)
Mobo: EVGA 680i rev. AR w/ P29 bios
RAM: Corsair 2x1GB PC2-10000C5 @ 3-3-3-6-1T 2.1v
VGA: BFG 7950GT
PSU: OCZ Powerstream 600w
Cooling: Water. ;)

EnJoY the chip :) :) :P

Btw, i seriously doubt those temparatures.

These are the latest G0 stepping chips, and I can bet that the Tjunction will be 100C on these as well. TheCoolest has not programmed 0.95 to deal with these chips and hence it shows 85C as Tjunction.

With 100C Tjunction, the temps makes a lot more sense.

Idle = 15+15 = 30C at stock.

Loaded at 3.6G = 33C + 15 = 48C

Regards,
Karan

[ShoNuff]

Wow man you've got some really nice temps on that chip. Good luck getting 4GHZ stable.

Being an ES "GO" I am sure he is only one..to..two tweaks away from being rock solid' stable. :up:

[erwinz]

i know these run cooler but i've also noticed with newer CPUs some of the temp probes must be faulty as they are idling at the same or less temps than ambient :)

so please report your ambient there and exact cooling setup :)

yup yup..


what is your ambient temps Enjoy??

[Dumo]

Time to freez 'em up and Enjoy:toast:

[aussie-revhead]

Lol, this thread got off topic rather quick. BTW there is a e6850 for sale on eBay. Some guy from Australia is selling the chip for about $550. It is not an auction style sale it is only "Buy It Now". Just search "e6850".


This one here:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300127332124&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

But hes shipping from Shanghai ..... sounds dodgey eh...

:rolleyes:

[ziddey]

at least screenshot is in chinese :) still not worth the price knowing release prices in a few weeks

[PcCI2iminal]

nice chip !

keep pushing :D

[dinos22]

Prime was a big no no at 4ghz with that voltage with a hard reset. We'll see what I have to do to get it stable.

i just put together my loop today and interestingly enough even managed to prime a little bit at 4GHz with my non-G0 old school E6700 retail chip :p:

i'm sure that sucker can beat older CPUs :D

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2131/clipboard01rq0.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard01rq0.jpg)

the mobo temp is a bit LOL.....probe measures 38C at the base of the NB hehehe

[aussie-revhead]

Good stuff Dino , how many volts did it need for 4GHz ?

:up:

[dinos22]

it's in the screen
speedfan vcore corresponds to DMM measurement on this mobo

[EnJoY]

Awesome results Dinos! :up: Very honestly, that may be hard to beat. :D I haven't had the time to the testing I wanted to since this is the weekend I vowed to finally get my car running again after it's engine/tranny swap.

I'll do my best to get at least some super pi done at 4GHz+ for you guys tonight, this wait has not been fair. ;)

[irev210]

difference between EnJoY's E6850 and current E6600/E6700...

His G0 can easily do 4.0GHz to 4.2+GHz on air.


EnJoY, as fun as it would be to have such low temps, they are incorrect.

Another poster explained why. When FCG calculated it out, it was off by 11C.


E6850 is nice, loves voltage.

[lawrywild]

Hmm I'm sceptical of those idle temps, even more suspicious that you ignored about 20 different people asking for your ambient temps but you didn't answer...

I still want one though...

[adamsleath]

more retail results r needed; im still expecting 3.6-4.0 on air...
i hope all the e6850's are well binned chips :)

[EnJoY]

Hmm I'm sceptical of those idle temps, even more suspicious that you ignored about 20 different people asking for your ambient temps but you didn't answer...


Maybe because I cannot accurately measure them? :rolleyes:

[adamsleath]

well how hot is it where you are? :hehe: in massa chewsetts? it's summer there right? i'm sitting in a 17 c room atm :D

[dinos22]

Awesome results Dinos! :up: Very honestly, that may be hard to beat. :D I haven't had the time to the testing I wanted to since this is the weekend I vowed to finally get my car running again after it's engine/tranny swap.

I'll do my best to get at least some super pi done at 4GHz+ for you guys tonight, this wait has not been fair. ;)

my CPU was "special" until i saw G0 results....now it will just blend in with the crowd

the remarkable thing is this CPU is a week 26 '06

[EnJoY]

Priming 3.85 w/ 1.425v actual.

http://enjoy.nickfire.com/e6850es_9x425_147v.jpg

[dinos22]

that is extremely nice indeed :) intel really improved well with these G0s

i can't wait to see low end quads :)

[EnJoY]

3.9GHz....priming away. :D

http://enjoy.nickfire.com/e6850es_9x434_1525v.jpg

Voltage is ~1.47 actual. Voltage scaling is no longer optimal. 4GHz prime is gonna take a lot.

This just goes to show you all that ES's are not always the cherries of bunch, so you can probably see most retail G0's doing the same. :)

[adamsleath]

cpuz 1.40.5 actually reads the correct voltage...first time for me :rolleyes:

[The Nemesis]

Nice.... I wonder when we are gonna see a 12 hour low volt prime/orthos run @ 3.8-4Ghz on air with retail G0 steppings? The only retail (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2292839&postcount=42)one I've seen has done an hour with less than 1.5v @ load. I will definitely grab a Q6600 G0 when available, but I've already got three chips that can do 3.8ghz 12 hours orthos under 1.5v so the 6X50 line I'll pass on.

[EnJoY]

This wasn't as easy as many of you would have thought. 4GHz is priming now, I'll be letting it go all night to see if it makes it. This is with ~1.57v.

http://enjoy.nickfire.com/e6850es_9x445_161v.jpg

CPU-Z stops reading voltages semi-correctly past 1.5v, which is why it's all whacked.

I'll try tomorrow for a higher screenshot, maybe 4.2 will be possible?

[Dynasty]

This wasn't as easy as many of you would have thought. 4GHz is priming now, I'll be letting it go all night to see if it makes it. This is with ~1.57v.

http://enjoy.nickfire.com/e6850es_9x445_161v.jpg

CPU-Z stops reading voltages semi-correctly past 1.5v, which is why it's all whacked.

I'll try tomorrow for a higher screenshot, maybe 4.2 will be possible?

nice results with E6850 G0.....no P5K @ hand for testing....:)

[EnJoY]

nice results with E6850 G0.....no P5K @ hand for testing....:)

No, I need a P35 badly. :D What's also worth noting is that every chip I've ever had in this board before this has clocked worse than they did in my old P5B-Deluxe. Unfortunately I no longer have the P5B, but hopefully I'll be able to get a P35 in my hands sooner rather than later.

[michaLcoughliN]

What board are you planning on getting EnJoy?

[EnJoY]

What board are you planning on getting EnJoy?

Whatever is the best when I have the $200+ to spare. :) I've had my eye on the P35-DQ6 for awhile now, but honestly I probably won't be in the market for another month with debts, bills, and vacations to claim my money. ;) Honestly, when I have to choose between a new mobo or a weekend in Montreal with my friends, or a camping trip at a lake, where's the choice? :p:

[michaLcoughliN]

lol. noted.

[Supertim0r]

heh, Montreal ;)

[ziddey]

run around saint laurent

[michaLcoughliN]

Toronto FTW

[adamsleath]

u mean you have a life? :shock:

:lol2:

[Bei Fei]

I can't wait until the 22nd *crosses fingers* "please give me a G0"

[Brother Esau]

Ther is a Flaw in (P29) Bios with Raid Cards and also Ram Table changes!

[reflux]

UK members, there's one going here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Intel-Core-2-Duo-E6850-Socket775-3-0GHz-Cache-1333FSB_W0QQitemZ120138932061QQihZ002QQcategoryZ96 868QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) for £225 with two days to go. Not sure if I trust the seller though, and frankly when you will be able to get a retail chip for £200 in two weeks anyway, I don't see the point.

[EnJoY]

I wouldn't say 4.2 was easy, but it wasn't hard. :D

http://enjoy.nickfire.com/e6850es_4.2ghz_1625v.jpg


This was the highest shot I could grab, with around ~1.63v.


http://enjoy.nickfire.com/e6850es_4.27ghz_1625v.jpg


The sickening thing is that I actually managed to grab save a shot of 4314MHz with ~1.65v...but unfortunately, I pressed the print screen button too quickly before cpu-z had time to refresh and the shot still says 'only' 4.2... :( After I "thought" I had grabbed 4.3, I went up to 4.35 and it reset before I could save the shot.

But I still think 4.27 with over 1.6v on a warmer than usual day in my room on water is pretty decent. ;)

[Solarfall]

what were the temps with @ +4.2 ghz ???
and with what sort of cooling ..water ???

[EnJoY]

what were the temps with @ +4.2 ghz ???
and with what sort of cooling ..water ???

Still water, yes.

Temps at idle were around 40c...load would have been at 70c+ easily with that voltage at that speed. But I couldn't put any real load on the chip with any sort of stability.

[Solarfall]

oh and forgot to ask what is the max fsb of that chip you have.. would be interesting to know.. if its not too much trouble.

[luihed]

Leafs suck......

[YukonTrooper]

Leafs suck......
Go Flames Go!

[EnJoY]

oh and forgot to ask what is the max fsb of that chip you have.. would be interesting to know.. if its not too much trouble.

I would, but unfortunately this board tops out at a little over 500FSB. Once I get a P35, I'll really be able to stress it.

[JBudda]

Hey all,

I'm new to this forum but I have a bit of insight about the Core 2 Duo's.

Here's my first Core2 Duo rig (basically)

Intel E6700, EVGA 680i mobo, 2 Gigs OCZ pc-8500 (1066), EVGA 8800GTX x2 in SLi, 750W Power PC & Cooling PSU, Swiftech Water Cooling kit, et all.

When I put this all together the E6700 was roughly $500.00. The E6700 beat my AMD X2 4800 (clocked to 2.95G) pretty easily (the 4800 was $700 at the time of purchase). Here are some 3dMark06 score comparisons:

AMD X2 4800 @ 2.95G ($700 new) w/ 8800GTX's in SLi 3dMark06 = around 8100 (overall score)

Intel E6700 2.66G stock clock ($500 new) w/8800GTX's in SLi 3dMark06 = around 9300 (overall score)

I just got the new Intel E6850 for less than $300 ($289 to be exact) and here's what I got:

Intel E6850 3.0G stock clock ($289 new) w/ 8800GTX's in SLi 3dMark06 = around 12500 (overall score)

Intel E6850 clocked to 3.6G (fsb 400 x 9, & vcore 1.418v from 1.4v) w/ 8800GTX's in SLi 3dMark06 = around 15800 (overall score)

Here's my observation: It is an amazing time for CPU's!!! for less than $300 I have a CPU that costs LESS than 1/3 the cost of early last year's speed king (AMD FX-60/62) and I have none of the thermal issues of last years CPUs. Last year we saw only small but noticeable performance differences from CPU to CPU, but nothing like what I'm seeing now. For anyone who knows 3dMark06, to jump from a score of 8100 to 15800 is a massive jump - done with chip that costs less than $300. AMAZING!!!!!...

[KALISPIMENTA]

Enjoy anyway you can post your bios settings?

[EnJoY]

Enjoy anyway you can post your bios settings?

Which ones would you like to know? I don't have the board nor the chip any longer, but I'm sure I can recall the majority of the settings for you from memory. ;)

[railmeat]

try 9x400 and lets see those temps!

agree

my e6600 on water at 400x9 on my rd600 is at 33 1.4875v.at 3.0 1.375v it runs bout 21c.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/36.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/36.jpg

looks like e6850 do alot better.