"Finishing delayed units by Luke, information topic".

[VictorWang]

need an official Performa Invoice and Packing List with a company name and signature on it.
also, Bill of Lading have to be modified with the corresponding shipper/consignee.
btw, remember to mark the value of the unit = 300$ on the PI.

and... exchanging docs fee should be on Luke,
1/2 storage fee due to delay should be on Luke.
i want my money back for the DOA mini auto cascade.
i want my money back for the balance of shipping fee.

[LukeXE]

and... exchanging docs fee should be on Luke, -- I payed already for all custom fees and documents and insurance on my side in poland
1/2 storage fee due to delay should be on Luke. --How much
i want my money back for the DOA mini auto cascade. A half like we talked with Marvin, yeap ?
i want my money back for the balance of shipping fee. -- I payed 600euro for shipping 50kg package. for one 25kg package they wanted 560euros. So 40 euro more.

I`ll try to arrange all needed documents.

[Magoa]

I hope you know that i don't accept any delays from this time on.

1.This weekend(before monday) i would like to see some photo's from my unit with load testing. If you don't have a camera.... you buy one, not my problem.
2.I get the unit before let's say 22march 2008, not one day later.....if spedition company fails to get this thing in time, thats really not my problem.

I don't accept any delays again/more. If one of those two points are broken, i surrely don't want a unit. Then i want 700 euro's within 3 months from 22 march. I paid you 800,- so i think thats a really reasonable deal from your side.

I'm really tired of this whole thing, you really don't keep your promises. A couple of pages ago you promised that i would have the unit before newyear2008....

[LukeXE]

No problem. I`ll do photos by phone.

I everything will go well, unit will be shipped before wednesday.

Today I finished another SS for sale from spare parts.

[VictorWang]

as i told u, i'm asking u to shipping by Air, which means shipping term = DDP but not CIF.
the only thing I have to pay in China = Tax.
am i clear ?

DOA mini auto-c, half refund, ok.

delayed storage fee, i have to check with the shipper.

u should have about 550euro at hand for shipping, shipping by sea = 300$ to me.
so.......balance = 550euro-300$.

[LukeXE]

as i told u, i'm asking u to shipping by Air, which means shipping term = DDP but not CIF.
the only thing I have to pay in China = Tax.
am i clear ?


For me it`s not still clear Victor. My friend told me that he found shipping by air from poland to china pallet 90kg.

For 3000usd.

I shipped it by only one possible way. for me termo DDP or CIF doesn`t exist, because I don`t know what that mean (at all now I know). You wanted it in china, I have sent it. Sorry that I haven`t got 3k usd for shipping by air :(



u should have about 550euro at hand for shipping, shipping by sea = 300$ to me.
so.......balance = 550euro-300$.

We are talking about shipping monster or auto-c ? Because I can`t understand those calculations.

Shipping mini-ac, you have sent me money and I have sent by whole amount units, that`s ok.

For shipping monster, as I calculated few pages ago, I got in hand about 320euro for shipping bigger unit from first bank transfer.

NO OFFENSE, I`m writing this normally and without any bad feelings. Just wanna clarify :)

[cruise]

Into march, still no sign of the unit.

I understand you didn't have the money before, but still not enough to send?

[LukeXE]

UPS wants 555euro for shipping it to Australia.

I`ll try do that by postal. Shipping is much cheaper

[kayl]

UPS wants 555euro for shipping it to Australia.

I`ll try do that by postal. Shipping is much cheaper



Luke as per our discussion MSN be very careful with shipping things by sea.

Ie i payed 90US to ship 6 compressors then another $900AUs in port fees and processing etc. THat was paying $0 tax as well :mad:
the invoice was a page long of all sorts of fees for all sorts of things.
you also need a broker or something to process the application.
Also the day it lands you also pay storage fees it adds up very quickly.

So since then i have never ordered anything by sea.


cruise ill scan my documents for procesing which shows all the fees etc involved so you can check your end see if they will be the same.
Ill do this tuesday k.

[LukeXE]

sory Magoa for not doing loadtests (at all second time) on weekend like I said, but I had school, extra lessons because in this week I got big exams + I got few things to to and I was very late at home, not possible for me to do loadtest at night. Ya, I know, you think "still excuses". No, really sorry but I couldn`t do that.

After work I`ll do those loadtes and ETA of shipping your unit is Friday, by GLS. I`ll give you tracking number on Friday, 7.03.2008. So finally your unit will go, like I said, on beginning of March.

Thank Kayl for your effort. We will look Cruise on those documents, okay ?

[Magoa]

sory Magoa for not doing loadtests (at all second time) on weekend like I said, but I had school, extra lessons because in this week I got big exams + I got few things to to and I was very late at home, not possible for me to do loadtest at night. Ya, I know, you think "still excuses". No, really sorry but I couldn`t do that.

After work I`ll do those loadtes and ETA of shipping your unit is Friday, by GLS. I`ll give you tracking number on Friday, 7.03.2008. So finally your unit will go, like I said, on beginning of March.
I'm really not amused how you deal with me/your costummers.

You had 4 are 5 days to do some loadtests, and now your talking about exams? I dont know what you think about me, but im not that stupid. You dont fool me that easely anymore. No school in the world keeps you for 24/7 on studying.... Its just a mater of bad planning and always do/try to do things in/on the last minute.


Get me within four days(you have till 7 march), pics from unit and loadtest results(on photo)
If not, i dont need the unit anymore, and i accuse you.

How hard can it be to make a couple of photo's of a unit wich is finished and do some loadtests?

[LukeXE]

Photos of unit you already have, loadtests were done and now for you I`m doing them once again. It would be stupid to send unit with worse results than I said.

I`m working from monday to saturday, and on weekend I have school and my personal things which have to be done too. I couldn`t find time to do loadtests, even yesterday, but today on the evening I`ll. Nevermind.

http://gorajec.net/lukexe/units/DSCF3084.jpg
http://gorajec.net/lukexe/units/DSCF3083.jpg

old but actual.

Loadtest once again, will do for you.

BTW, finished lifting Masell`s unit. Will put it on for sale section in few days. Unit is workin` normally.

[VictorWang]

hey Luke, move faster ok ?
i got 2calls and asked me what's the situation, but... they have no solutions at all.

so... plz find a company and do what i told u to, ok ?

[LukeXE]

hey Luke, move faster ok ?
i got 2calls and asked me what's the situation, but... they have no solutions at all.

so... plz find a company and do what i told u to, ok ?

Have you contacted that import/export agency which I send you in e-mail ?

[LukeXE]

I gave up with autocascades ! STOP !

fking $hit, last time it worked well, now it takes 30 minutes to break -70.

You won rotary cascade like on our first deal. I`ll not fight with this $hit anymore, I`ll not send something like that to you. No more autocascades !!!!!!!! I`m so pissed right not, why my first autoc worked good :| :| Those not !!

This rotary (small rotaries) cascade is R290/CO2, capacity -70@150W, based on small wooden base like in "autocascades". Give me extra this weekend for packing it, on week I`ll test it and show "prove" before shipping and on Monday 10.03.2008 will ship it by GLS. You will have it for sure before 22.03. It`s very, very small and it`ll work fine with small power supply (6k rotaries).

This autoc I`ll put on junkyard. Don`t wanna see it anymore.

[kayl]

I gave up with autocascades ! STOP !

fking $hit, last time it worked well, now it takes 30 minutes to break -70.

You won rotary cascade like on our first deal. I`ll not fight with this $hit anymore, I`ll not send something like that to you. No more autocascades !!!!!!!! I`m so pissed right not, why my first autoc worked good :| :| Those not !!

This rotary (small rotaries) cascade is R290/CO2, capacity -70@150W, based on small wooden base like in "autocascades". Give me extra this weekend for packing it, on week I`ll test it and show "prove" before shipping and on Monday 10.03.2008 will ship it by GLS. You will have it for sure before 22.03. It`s very, very small and it`ll work fine with small power supply (6k rotaries).

This autoc I`ll put on junkyard. Don`t wanna see it anymore.

whos unit is this your redoing from scratch???




luke single stage units should hold up to 250w and handle idle 50w
Autocascades and cascades need to hold 300-350W.
even crapy vapour Ls and mach2's do 180w.

[LukeXE]

You mean who`s that cascade I`m giving to Magoa ?

Nobodys, it was build by me from spare (but new) parts for sale, to have money for refunds or debts. It was tested only with 150W dummy because I only had that one.

[Magoa]

You mean who`s that cascade I`m giving to Magoa ?

Nobodys, it was build by me from spare (but new) parts for sale, to have money for refunds or debts. It was tested only with 150W dummy because I only had that one.
Okay, I'll give you till 21 of march 2008 to take pics and good loadtest.

And 4 april i want the unit here at home.

Think i'm very reasonable, and it should be easy for you to take care of this before then .
How much Watt dummy do you got? Still 150Watts? Hope you got round 225/250W....

[LukeXE]

wow, thanks for that amount of time to get things done. But it`ll take much shorter.

I got still 250W dummy.

[Magoa]

wow, thanks for that amount of time to get things done. But it`ll take much shorter.

I got still 250W dummy.
It's not the first time you say that, and in they end it does take you more time...
Dont forget that date's that i gave you, are deadline's. There's nothing bad when you can do things more quicker ;)

Hope this time you keep your promises.

250Watt dummy is nice :)

[LukeXE]

This time will be cool.

[cruise]

Good to hear............

[n00b 0f l337]

Luke if your having autocascade troubles PM me, I'll give you a hand

[LukeXE]

Good to hear............

What`s up Cruise ?

Have you got documents from Kayl ? I`m only waiting for this, shipping your package is difficult and wanna do that in right way.

If shipping will be too dificult you`ll got refund.

[cruise]

What`s up Cruise ?

Have you got documents from Kayl ? I`m only waiting for this, shipping your package is difficult and wanna do that in right way.

If shipping will be too dificult you`ll got refund.

Eh, I know nothing about this with kayl.

Did you organize something?

You havn't told me about this before.

By the way, Kayl sure knows how to build cascades, but he isn't necessarily well experienced with international shipping, so please don't rely on him instead of asking your sending company in poland.

[LukeXE]

Hey, you haven`t read last posts ?

cruise ill scan my documents for procesing which shows all the fees etc involved so you can check your end see if they will be the same.
Ill do this tuesday k.

Maybe you think shipping is easy, but if you want some problems like Victor it`s up to you. Contact with kayl about those documents and see what`s up and what fees you can expect. By shipping by postal it`s chance, that unit will go thru custom office.

It`s not shipping from city to city next to. It will go around the world. So sorry that I wanna be sure everything to not have next mess because something goes wrong in Australia.

[kayl]

Eh, I know nothing about this with kayl.

Did you organize something?

You havn't told me about this before.

By the way, Kayl sure knows how to build cascades, but he isn't necessarily well experienced with international shipping, so please don't rely on him instead of asking your sending company in poland.


no i know nothing about shipping.
I have done it once and just know about how much it did cost me after already paying the guy i bough 6 compressor from.
Just a little worried that the same thing will happen to you. Im sure your ports have similar fees that you might want to check out.
i paid $90US ~$100 to sender then anther ~$875 once they landed in australia.
Worked out almost the same price as using DHL. Sames compressors here in AUS cost $1200 each so save alot of money and now use only new compressors in builds ;)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5753/92002951fc7.png
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9626/71633106fw6.png

[VictorWang]

hey Luke, where's my money and the needed docs ?
have to remind u for the money you should pay back to me :)

[LukeXE]

I talked with Kayl, as I told him, I`ll post units for sale on weekend and from them I`ll have money.

I written you in e-mail, I need few days to make those documents perfect, it`s not easy and for sure not legal. And I can`t change unit value, I need to declare that same like previous, not less.

How much we will pay for storage fee ??

[LukeXE]

Ok, I`ll not wait anymore for Ethylene. I wanted to charge Magoa auto-c with ethylene to got better performance than with R744, but no luck :shrug:

Gotta all stuff finished. With camera phone photos aren`t so extra :|

Cruise, would refund will be better way ? Than additional fees on Australia border.

[Magoa]

Uh, got one small question for you Luke.

What are you building for me? First it was Auto-c then 2stage cascade and now its auto-c again? Are do I miss something?

[LukeXE]

sorry, my bad.

I mean cascade of course. Just because of so long time I`m still writing auto-c.

[MaSell]

I will ask too. Any good news?

[LukeXE]

I will ask too. Any good news?

Yes. Probably I got customer for SLI unit. Nothing 100% sure but...almost.

[kayl]

Yes. Probably I got customer for SLI unit. Nothing 100% sure but...almost.

i hope not through XS luke :coffee:

[LukeXE]

not thru xs.

of course, like we talked :cool:

[LukeXE]

finally finished all and needed documents are sent to VictorWang. As I told ya, I couldn`t write smaller value on invoice, because it can`t be changed.

Magoa, tomorrow evenening I`ll post those photos from loadtests and after approving them i`ll pack unit and send until friday.

[Magoa]

Sounds good. Hope you can keep your promise are else me deadline and that's tomorrow ;)

[LukeXE]

Ygpm

[VictorWang]

Luke, i got ur "docs".
but...as always...totally useless !
u've wasted my time and patience too many times !

i dont know if those docs are made by u or by ur stupid shipping agent in poland.
so many mistake/missing factors,
and ... thank u, seems u would like to pay 1500$ tax duty for me as u mark the unit = 2400$.
that's ... i dont know i can go on with u !

after waiting for about 1year.
i payed u so much, gave u so many chances, been so nice and polite to u.
but... u failed ag. and ag.

now, i give up. but u must refund me !!
1) for the DOA mini-auto-cascade. = 0.5*(price+shipping) = 450euro
2) for the balance of amount I've payed to u = 250euro
-------------------------totally 700euro refund in one week !!!

3) for the cost of "monster" = 1500euro (u call back the unit and sell it)
-------------------------totally 1500euro refund in 3month.

[MaSell]

Yes. Probably I got customer for SLI unit. Nothing 100% sure but...almost.

And what? Almost week and still nothing "100% sure"?

It's so boring, 18months waiting. I wanna full refund until 15 April 2008 or will gonna to police. It's final deadline, I will not negotiate with you more. Sorry Luke, but your all words and promises are only bullsh*t. I don't care that you haven't got cash, I don't care about you cars, I don't care how you spend (or don't spend) money, I don't care what you doing all the time. We all got many promises, deadlines and still nothing! Firstly you said that I will have return in may 06, later autumn 06 after you trip to italy, later u said that all delayed deals will be ended before 2008, now is almost april 2008 and still you cannot refund some cash, send some units, get etylene or send proper docs to Vic. It's too much.

For me it's over. After 15 april and I will help myself and yourself do all nessesery things to over with you deals.

Ahh and I don't think that I have money from you for shipping "sli" unit. I can prove that.

regards

[LukeXE]

I gotta problems with uploading whole photos, doing that still, gotta few old ones from 4-5 days ago

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2643/91998956js4.th.jpg (http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=91998956js4.jpg)

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/4967/75653151sf2.th.jpg (http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=75653151sf2.jpg)

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/4967/75653151sf2.th.jpg (http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=75653151sf2.jpg)

@ Masell, I`m sending to you bottle for which you payed for (R14) and will pay you back that money to have you done.

@ Victor, sorry, but I`m tired of you. I`m tired of your country and problems because of it. I prepared for you all docks, changed customer-customer for company-company, wasted time and money to get all official documents and now you`re telling me that it`s not working ????????????????????????

What mistakes, what missing factors ?? The f*ck TELL ME THE HELL WHAT YOU NEED !!!!!!!! I`m tired of quessing, you wanna performa invoice, you got it, packing list, you got it. WHAT ELSE ! TELL ME EXACLY WHAT YOUR COUNTRY NEED EXACLY AND HOW DOCUMENTS SHOULD LOOK LIKE !!!!!!!!!!

I told ya that I can`t change those 2400$, because it would be breaking the law and I`m not going to jail because of you and because you don`t want to pay taxes. I`m out of this, unit was send and I did everything what I can to help you with CUSTOMS IN YOUR COUNTRY.

that`s all from me, going back to uploading photos for magoa

[MaSell]

@ Masell, I`m sending to you bottle for which you payed for (R14) and will pay you back that money to have you done.


What?:confused:

Maybe you will send me all parts from mine unit and don't refund anything? I don't need this bottle, belive me. You bought it from my cash to fill my unit R14... but wait a moment, where is this gas with you bougth for me :D ? You never filled my unit with R14 so all gas should be still here :) ... or you used it to fill other unit and want give me this useless bottle as part of refund lol?

Only full refund, no trades :)

[LukeXE]

bottle wasn`t integral part of system, but nevermind

[VictorWang]

you can show the docs to ur stupid agent in poland.
ask them what to do !
it's them who gave u promise that the unit will arrive at my hand w/o prob.
but now ??? how ?? are they gonna eat their words ?

or, u can post PI and PL here, ask anyone if those "unprofessional" docs are workable for any countries "custom" !!!
let's see if it's ur problem or it's my countrie's prob !!!!


and, btw, no matter what's going on with the stupid monster u sent to me.
u should refund me 700euro in 1week !!!

[LukeXE]

The PI was prepared from ORGINAL PI which was set by SHANGHAI COMPANY. I only modified names. So I don`t know what Chineese custom need more. Maybe bribe ?

I`m not cool with your calculations. I`m sick of writing to you, that shipping one autocascade costs almost that same (about 20-30euro dif) like shipping two autocascades as one package in UPS.

So I`m not cool with 0,5 * (autocascade + shipping price) because it`s worthless. Because shipping here shouldn`t be calculated.

It`s not possible for me to get any money to you in one week. I got Masell and one person more to pay earlier. You have to wait for any money. I`m not telling that you will not got anything. You just have to wait like others did.

[VictorWang]

oh, yes, seems u are soooooooo happy to let others waiting !
thought i dont have to remind u for the "refund agreement" we made 2month a go under the help of marvin!!!
if u forgot, u can read through this thread !!!
only GOD have the right to let others waiting for 1year.
only CHEATER and LIER will ignore others request and let others waiting !!!
you can choose to be one of the above 3 roles :)

abot 0.5*shipping of mini-auto, how about you send me 600euro and I send u a 100% useless machine ?
0.5*mini-auto=212.5euro
0.5*shipping cost of mini-auto=550/4=137.5euro.
so total=350euro.

plus the balance 250euro.
total amount u should pay me = 600euro.


for that stupid PI.
price term= ? FOB ? CIF ? DDP ? DDU ? total in advance ?? what's that ??
pi num= ?? P0001-P0002 ? what's that ?
date= Feb 15th, 2008 ??? ur stupid Unit already arrived in China before that day !!!
shipping term= ??? by sea ? by truck ? by air ?
package = box ? do u know the words "Ctn" or "Case"
Qty = 1 ? 1 what ? 1set ? 1pc ?
delivery time = 60days after reciept ? are u kidding me ag. ? when I paied u ? when u ship the item ?
Issued by ?? or "Signed By" ???

soooooo many problems in ur "perfect PI", how I dare show this to custom ?
u think they are fool ?
let along the more stupid packing list u've made !

i'm sick of u !

[LukeXE]

So we both are sick ;)

Can we prepare PI and PL together ? I think it would be to best way.

[VictorWang]

i dont wanna work with u anymore, money back is ur only option !!!
600euro in one week !

after this is done, we can move on to the next !!!

[VictorWang]

our Mr.Delay_Luke missing ag. ??

[LukeXE]

No, he is not missing again, he has other things to do instead of just sitting on computer. Money will not lay on floor, just to take it.

[MaSell]

Any news for me?

Two weeks left

[LukeXE]

Until 15 you`ll have money.

Tomorrow I`m going to GLS to send Magoa`s cascade.

[MaSell]

Good to hear that, keep pushing it ;)

[LukeXE]

Yeah, when I`ll send Magoa cascade and everything will be fine with it, pay you Masell, sell fast Cruise SS and give him money I`ll only have Kizmo Cascade and Symphy 3 stager, which are waiting for this stupid ethylene :|

...and arrange refund for DAO auto-c fo VW

[LukeXE]

Masell, today I`ll send you 700PLN, before 15 of April next 800PLN (probably on monday), and for ~400pln could you give me a bit more time ?

[MaSell]

Masell, today I`ll send you 700PLN, before 15 of April next 800PLN (probably on monday), and for ~400pln could you give me a bit more time ?

Ok, but if I will have 700+800=1500 before 15th April and ~400 at beggining of may. If not, you know what will happend:up:

[LukeXE]

OK, I have sent 600PLN instead of 700, but because of this month credit which I had to pay fast.

Next payment 800 on monday/tuesday.

[MaSell]

Ok I recived it today.

[LukeXE]

Great

[VictorWang]

so i'm hear waiting

[LukeXE]

Yes, please everyone be patient, I can`t pay you all in one time. I got credits, still paying them + every sallary I`m paying to someone refund.

Not everything in one time. I`m really doing my best guys :( Believe me.

[VictorWang]

MR. Delay*Luke ?

[MaSell]

Have you send money today as you told me? Show some receipt if you can.

[LukeXE]

I don`t have scanner here, I`ll try to scan it on the evening.

I got sallary every first day of the month.

[cruise]

Don't forget who created this thread in the first place so long ago, he hasn't got anything at all yet. ;)

[LukeXE]

Of course Cruise, I remember about ya !

Today I got last egzam in school and I`m free man now :p Almost all weekend I was off, but now it`s okay.

I cleaned cellar a bit, gotta worked on Symphy 3 stager, which is in 95% finished. Now only really needa gases, will call Messer Poland today. So I would have 2 ready cascades.

Masell should got some cash already on his account, last "refund" after 1 of may and that`s all for Masell. I need to sell all phase stuff I got.

I gotta problems with getting R507 from A/C shop on my normal working days, if I could got someone to do it for me I`ll have two ready SS, filled.

Victor I remember about ya still. I gotta pay few euros to Albert, I promised that but I need a paypal account.

I got big debts eh, and at all it`s my fault. I would like to have my sallary for me only, at this momment I got planned to who I`m paying money from my 3 sallary forward :| Eh.

[VictorWang]

Mr. Delay*Luke , u are busy ?
but why i saw someone send me photo of u are sitting in a Honda car with some friends ?
seems very happy on a fancy party ?

u have money to pay for ur car but dont have money to pay back ?
u lier ! cheater !

[tiborrr]

Is Victor having some people spying on Luke in Poland? Wow, real-life spy games on XS.org it seems.

[LukeXE]

Mr. Delay*Luke , u are busy ?
but why i saw someone send me photo of u are sitting in a Honda car with some friends ?
seems very happy on a fancy party ?

u have money to pay for ur car but dont have money to pay back ?
u lier ! cheater !

man, get lost from me.

I can`t have friends ? I can`t have car to drive to work or do things needed to just live in 21 century (driving to A/C shop 40km`s, sending your unit and driving 150km to send it) Will you will pay for time spend on going everywhere by buses and cost of them ? I can`t have life and can`t do anything because of that mess ?? I`m doing what I can, everyday doing something and only thinking about how get stupid money to pay you all, to pay debts, to pay school and to pay food and clotes need to f*cking life !!!

I`m not paying you all back ?? :banana::banana::banana::banana:, how much I token credits to pay you all back and that`s not all !

Get lost from me Victor and to person who is, :banana::banana::banana::banana:, can`t imagine that, spying me or something, f*uck off.

Someone can ban me for words, but the hell what`s going on !

Is Victor having some people spying on Luke in Poland? Wow, real-life spy games on XS.org it seems.

That`s sick.

Who is that person Victor ? Just tell me.

[VictorWang]

hoho, u are trying to hide back ag?
little kid, u still owe me money and u wanna let it be ?
who are u ? u are the god ?
u have the right to take others money and pay ur own hobby ?

say what u like to say, u loser, cheater, lier :)

[LukeXE]

Hide back again ? Are you having any problems with head ? when I was hide since last year ??

Where the f*uck I written that I`ll not give you any money. I got schedule when and how much I can pay refunds and now I`m paying Masell, after that you and Cruise. I`ll not pay you all in one time, I`ll not write that again.

EVERYONE WILL HAVE THEIR MONEY. GOD !

Loser, cheater, lier. Hm, I`ll not say anything about you and "great" chineese govement and rules about duty and problems and wasted money by me to get everything done for ya. I shouldn`t do anything in that case just after sending unit to you. My bad that I tried and wanted to solve everything and help.

If I would like to hide I could do that looonnggg time ago !! But I`m still here and there is very good contact with me, not like with other guys who had similar problems like me (names are good known)

[VictorWang]

oh, very nice.
u are sooooooooooo gentle and soooooooo warm hearted to HELP me and willing to refund me :)

but... what's the prob with ur head ? or ur eyes ?
u can't see what and when u promised to pay ?
but now ? a cent ?

if u really need a car for working, but why are u about to change it's engine it's cylinder ....etc ? wow!! u damn rich Mr.Delay !!!


and thx a lot for ur "great job", 1 machine dead, 1 leak, 1= can't be picked :)
that's what "great" means.

[LukeXE]

I had to change cylinder head because it was domaged and sorry, I`m not believing in god and that head will magically repair when I`ll pray. Sorry. Yes, I`m really rich to buy all stuff on junk. I feel like donald trump at this momment.

For me this discussion is over. You will got your money. Just please wait.

I hope that on summer all things will be clarified for everyone. Better later than have nothing.

[VictorWang]

wow...Mr.Delay*Luke, so...this is an official "delay decleration" , right ?

hope u have a nice nice day like these:
http://bbs.unihw.com/attachment.php?aid=8033

[LukeXE]

sorry, I can`t see the attachment.

I never said that I don`t have delays.

I`ll not have nice day, because I`m going to workshop and go back to doing phase, after 9h of work and exams in school from 7am.

[LukeXE]

GOOD NEWS !!

I got answer from Messer Poland :) About 13.05.2008 I`ll have ethylene :) 3,7kg :) For that long time of waiting, I`ll pay for it only 50euro :up: :up: :up: :up:

[Kizmo]

:up: Very good news!

[LukeXE]

Yes, good news at all.

Last part of refund (600PLN) for Masell will go to him after long weekend in poland, so at 5th of may.

Then I`ll need to pay cruise, victor and 150e to Albert. It seems that before end of vacations everything should be done. If I`ll sell those phase stuff I got it will be much faster.

[MaSell]

Last part of refund (600PLN) for Masell will go to him after long weekend in poland, so at 5th of may.

:up: Very good news!

:up:

[LukeXE]

Ok, so here I am.

Tomorrow will try send that last part of money to Masell. I`ll get sallary after 18pm, so I`m not sure if I`ll be able to send money via bank or bank agency, if not I`ll do that imadietly day after tomorrow. :up:

Next thing, finally next 3 days I got free from job (Matura in poland, final exams of school), so I`ll have time after exams go to Kielce, to GLS ship Magoa`s cascade, which was waiting only for that. So great + 2:up:

Next thing...hm, should put two SS on for sale section. Hope I`ll have some cash from them to pay Victor and Cruise. At all I got many spare parts (compressors, condensers), so after selling everything everyone should be payed without problems.

Hm, so that`s all at this momment.

Wish me luck tomorrow and on tuesday and wednesday :rofl:

EDIT

Money send to Masell. I`m not happy with that,but I sent only 400PLN, because I need to pay another credit monthly payment and I haven`t got enough money to bay both at one time from my sallary. Eh, so 200PLN still debt in Masell case, if everything goes well, I`ll send it on friday/monday.

[MaSell]

Money send to Masell. I`m not happy with that,but I sent only 400PLN
Got money, but I see only 300PLN at my bank account:confused:

600PLN 10/04/2008
700PLN 18/04/2008
300PLN 09/05/2008
------------------
1600PLN

Total was 1928PLN, so only 328PLN to go. Ufff what a good news

[LukeXE]

Hello

Rest of money, I`m arranging it, selling some stuff. I got buyers so in couple of days we will be clear.

[MaSell]

About 13.05.2008 I`ll have ethylene :)
Got it ;) ?

Rest of money, I`m arranging it, selling some stuff. I got buyers so in couple of days we will be clear.
News?

[LukeXE]

I have sent e-mail to Messer. Waitin for answer.

About money. Yes and no. I would like to send Symon`s cascade (I haven`t earlier because payed you money) and now don`t know what to do. I don`t have at this momment money to do both things, amount money for both is that same (around 300pln).

[Magoa]

About money. Yes and no. I would like to send Symon`s cascade (I haven`t earlier because payed you money) and now don`t know what to do. I don`t have at this momment money to do both things, amount money for both is that same (around 300pln).

When do you think you´l have enough money to finish both things?

I´m bit dissapointed that i first have to mail you to get some news about shipping and other info....

[LukeXE]

Eh, I was affraid of your reaction :shrug: Sorry.

The closest term to do both things is 1-2 of june, after sallary or earlier, depend on few things.

[MaSell]

I have sent e-mail to Messer. Waitin for answer.

About money. Yes and no.

The Neverending Story:shrug:

[LukeXE]

What the :banana::banana::banana::banana:, I only have to give you ~300pln, almost whole amount is on your bank account and still bad ? I only lost on that :banana::banana::banana::banana:, spend so many hours, even money for my work I have to give you back. Sholdn`t even start that project.

Wait and you`ll have it. :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

[VictorWang]

where's my money Luke ?

[MaSell]

and still bad ? I only lost on that

Bad :) . I wasn't able to buy or invest to make my money grow. In two years twice money is easy if you know what to do. Also I cannot overclocking using good cooling like cascade. I also need to say sth about my bundle of nerves? You was able to earn something on that, but it's not my fault thet you cannot build unit. So who lost here? Simple as hell

[LukeXE]

where's my money Luke ?

How much I earn you.

[VictorWang]

How much I earn you.

how much ?
u dont even remember how much money you owe other people means u never wanna pay them back !!! :down:

[LukeXE]

Hi

Yes, I will never pay back anyone, the money which appears on masell`s and others bank accounts is from Santa Claus.

I know how much I need for everyone else, but I`m not sure about ya. We need to discus that.

and please, stop that propaganda attack okay ? I`m paying everyone and it`s really not easy for me.

update.

I`ll pay masell and send magoa unit after 1 of may, need sallary to do that.

[LukeXE]

Ok, gotta money to pay masell and send Magoa`s unit at least !!!!!

Tomorrow will do bank transfer and will call DPD, maybe they will take package from my job.

[MaSell]

and...?

I guess bank was closed, you lost money or someone put bomb in your job ;) ?

[LukeXE]

Nice that you`re tryin' to be funny. The answer is really more simple for normal people.

"Wait till agency will make transfer to you ?"

[LukeXE]

OK, I took pen and paper and I calculated what I need to do at this point.

About money:

150euro to Albert.
~ 600euro to Cruise.
~ 220euro for not working mini auto-c after shipping to VictorWang (I`m not goin` to refund any 1/2 of shipping costs because I`ll not write 10324343743 times, that shipping price doesn`t change when I`m sending 25 or 50kg package to China).

About units:

Waitin` for ethylene which SHOULD be in poland, so I`ll fill:

Symphy`s 3 stager
Kizmo`s Cascade

Magoa`s cascade packed and ready for travel, waitin` for courier.

Goin` forward.

[Duniek]

I hope anyone will not make business with you in future, he lied about shipping, once bad adress, second time UFO takes pack but give it back in the same day,nvm I dont care but I bought from luke BRAND NEW NL9F compressor
and please look @ pics

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5830/71957537qj8.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1601/33249457hw0.jpg

dont piss me here, like on gg(msn)

[LukeXE]

hey,hey.

sold to you compressor for 60euro SHIPPED with elecitrics, for which I have invoice , which was used for about 20 minutes in unit and layed on my cellar floor for almost two years. For me it`s new.

Those punched "legs" is courier fault, because they weren`t in that condition while shipping. I haven`t cleaned it for shipping, you would feel better ?It`s in ideal working condition, like new one compressor, if you have problem with dirty bottom of compressor maybe I should post your compressors man ?

It`s new compressor in very good working condition. Please don`t make me pissed, because this compressor will not stop working like almost all yours after some time.

If you have problem, send it to me on my cost.

Maybe if I`ll tell to you "bad" word on gg/msn, post here and complain about that ? How bad I am ?

[MaSell]

Finally, after 21months of "building" unit and refounding I got all money back

Symphy, Vic and others - good luck with your units/refounds, I hope you will get everything until 2009
Luke - good luck with other units, ethylene and your honda... :up:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4582/m1iy7.jpg
me & Luke's CRX :welcome:

Regards :)

[LukeXE]

Honda is sold.

Thanks.

[LukeXE]

Finally, I`m sending to Albert gpu cooler instead of money. So I`ll be clear with him.

Albert and Symon`s unit will go DHL this week. they will take packages from my job, hurray

[MaSell]

Can I ask what happends with Vic's monster? Have you got it now Luke, or it's still somewhere between Poland an China? And what next with it, you will sell it for someone else or shipp one more time to Vic? I really wonder about it.

And BTW, 08-08-2007 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2358377&postcount=192
EVERYONE WILL HAVE THEY UNITS, in couple of days/2-3weeks max !

[LukeXE]

[B]Do you have any buisness with me anymore ? No. So thanks.

You`re just curious ? Go to church and pray and ask someone upthere.

Monster is in Shanghai. At this momment I need to fill 3 stager and Kizmo`s unit with ethylene and that`s all with sending units.

Today I got call from Messer and I`ll have ethylene on friday in Kielce.

[jinu117]

Can I ask what happends with Vic's monster? Have you got it now Luke, or it's still somewhere between Poland an China? And what next with it, you will sell it for someone else or shipp one more time to Vic? I really wonder about it.

And BTW, 08-08-2007 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2358377&postcount=192

MaSell, you have been paid off right? *hint*hint*

[Magoa]

Finally, I`m sending to Albert gpu cooler instead of money. So I`ll be clear with him.

Albert and Symon`s unit will go DHL this week. they will take packages from my job, hurray
Almost one month later.... i dont heard anything from you are from gls.


It's kinda simple now, sent the unit without leaks are other weird things within two weaks to my place.
Are pay me 600,- euro's within four weeks. I'm really tired of you and your broken promises.
You have had (to) many chance's to make things up....

[LukeXE]

Hey, sorry, but waitin` for support money for shipping from Albert, they should be at my account this week (international transfers takes time) and I`m sending both units.

Really.

[Magoa]

It's quite funny, when i pay someone by bank transfer my money is allways within five days on there account(VS/PL doenst make any difference). But in some way, other people takes it weeks to transfer some money.....

I'm waiting for more then a year for a unit from your side. It's always delays and some crap reasons for the delays. Its quite strange, that i have seen no unit pics with frost are some temps... You have made a couple of pics, but who tells me thats a unit intended to me? It would not be the first time that you made a unit and gave sevrel
costumers the intention that the unit is for them... Remember one year ago?

Its quite simple, you moved all me deadlines away, you made no serieus plan to ship are build units for are to people and you believe that people are take you on your words now?
So, to repeat things:
It's kinda simple now, sent the unit without leaks are other weird things within two weaks to my place.
Are pay me 600,- euro's within four weeks. I'm really tired of you and your broken promises.
You have had (to) many chance's to make things up....

Luke, i hope everything is quite clear for you, this is realy the last reaction i give in this case. If you break the deads, you'l see whats going to happen. And no, its not physical intimidation.... You will only get a letter.

[LukeXE]

Hey, about transfer I wasn`t sure when Albert has sent money to me. But I got it already.

Thursday/friday will drive before job to gls. It really would be better for me when courier would come to me, but it`s not possible with gls international shipping.

[LukeXE]

Decided to use weekend for checking if unit is working after so long time in box. If yes, on monday I should have tracking number.

[LukeXE]

Everything works perfectly :)

Unfortunelly, I was not able to ship it because I`m before sallary, the deadline from Magoa ends at 28th, so I`ll try send it tomorrow/saturday or at least on monday, when I`ll get whole price for shipping.

[LukeXE]

Magoa`s cascade sent. Next Albert`s on saturday.

[tiborrr]

Great news, Luke. It's nice to see you coming out of behindhand with your work.

[symphy]

Hello there,

I think it's the first time i write here in this thread regarding our deal, Luke. Over all the time, i got no PM, no call, no mail, nothing. I didn't say anything all the time being afraid to make the entire situation worse, but right now, i'm... sad.

I don't want to know when the unit will be ready for the 10th time, what's missing, what needs to be fixed... Just tell what you did with my money and if i ever get something from you - a cascade, my 1800 Euros... I don't know. Please answer, i'll have to see what to do next.

[LukeXE]

Hello symphy, I wrote several times to you on msn, pm too, but nevermind.

I waited from December 2007 for Ethylene, to fill two cascades. Finally, I received it on last friday.

http://www.teampuss.com/lukexe/YotoCascade/PICT0194.jpg
http://www.teampuss.com/lukexe/YotoCascade/PICT0380.jpg

3 stager is made from my old project cascade with added one more stage. I got only that, old photos of it. Waited at all for ethylene only.

So within month you will got cascade, ok ?. I sent two units in last 2-3 weeks, and I got only yours and Kizmo done cascade, waited so long for filling and testing.

[LukeXE]

Hello

Magoa, cascade is in your home 3-4weeks, can I know if everything is okay with it ?

Albert`s unit sent, tracking 25630428470 by gls.

So need to pay money to victor,cruise + send 3 stager + fill cascade with ethylene for Kizmo :up:

UPDATE

I`m waiting for bigger sallary in job, hope I`ll get it in this/next month, so I`ll transfer money to Victor, Cruise and my friend Memet.

[symphy]

Luke, what the hell is going on? I was quiet because i thought i couldn't make things happen faster, but actually NOTHING happens. I paid for a 3 stager, autocascading in first and third stage, as you offered it. I made a second and third payment as you told me you would need more and more... copper, pipes, whatever. I don't even know anymore HOW MUCH money i transfered to you, need to check this at my bank.

So please - decide what to do. Develope a plan how to give me my money back or send me unit that's actually WHAT I PAID FOR and WORTH the money. If i think what other builders offered me in the past for that huge amount i could cry.

Time's up. Decide what to do.

[LukeXE]

Hello, can we set more accesible way to talk and let`s say, at what hour you can be tomorrow at MSN ? 10am ? 11 ? And we will talk (3 stager is assembled).

[symphy]

Yeah, it was already assembled over a year ago.

I see no need talking to you by MSN - there are no pics, no plan, i dont even know what you've build now. If you really did that. Show me 3 digit frost numbers with a load tester as promised and we can talk about shipping a cascade. If there's something you can't say in this topic, write me a PM.

[LukeXE]

Any pictures with frost number will be after my sallary, because I need a lot of insulation for that.

I stage is 3 stage auto-c, second normal, third normal. I`ll make diagram of it and specs.

I`ll make photos of unit.

[Oj101]

May I ask a question in this thread if I'm not yet a customer? I'm considering approaching him for a unit so I'm a potential customer and would like to ask his old customers a question.

[Circaflex]

mods will probably delete ur post OJ101 along with mine, but i doubt luke will be taking on any more customers for awhile, and probably wont be allowed to do so here once this is all cleared up.

[runmc]

mods will probably delete ur post OJ101 along with mine, but i doubt luke will be taking on any more customers for awhile, and probably wont be allowed to do so here once this is all cleared up.

Exactly right. If you want to talk with Luke, do it through private methods.

[symphy]

So, any updates? You're talking about specs, pics, frost. Okay, okay, no frost, you're waiting for ethylene or whatever. Where are the specs? You can't give any information to me because there is just nothing to talk about. I don't know what happened to the parts i paid for, or if you even bought them. Please develope a plan to give me my money back. Another two weeks are gone and i bet all you did was trying to build something out of used parts and a huge amount of nothing.

Please, Luke. You took my money trying something you could never handle. I'm calm, i don't want to blame you but PLEASE give me my money back THIS WAY - or show me NOW what you've done with my money and it would really be better if it's working, damn cold and on its way to Germany. I don't want to go to law, but it seems like you don't offer me an other way. Please. Think about your situation and decide by yourself.

You know what amount i paid, and you know what i can expect for that. You know what other builders can do with that budget. You get a simple 2stager for 1000 bucks, a big one for 1600 and a 3stager for 2000 dollars. I don't want a pile of crap, but after 2 years of development, it has to be great, hasn't it?

To be clear: I'll set a deadline to 24th november 2008. If there isn't any progress until then... trust me, i'll get my money. I always tried to understand you, we always talked like friends - but i've lost every trust in you. Because actually, nothings happens.

I'm waiting. For my unit or the 2400USD you took and... whatever you did with it.

[LukeXE]

Unit

Today I changed color of mainboard to black, it looks cool :up: Gotta ethylene for some time, tried I stage after loong shut down, over 1 year, it work so it`s leak free (-83*C idle, r290/co2/ethylene "autocascade"). Preparing box for insulation.

Second R1150, need a valve for oil. The same for 3 stage.

Third stage R14/Methane blend. R14 from cold ice. Gotta nice condensers for desuperheaters, will work good.

I know that it takes sooo long (hmm, over 2 years), but finished and shipped some other projects, now I`m working at yours and I`ll be done with units (only refunds left)

so...

...24th of november is too close for everything, I know that there shouldn`t be excuses, but I`ll need week or two more for finishing/testing. I know that I lost trust and everything, at all you`re right, but give me some more time.

About shipping, I`ll not ship units anymore, I`m not gonna pay for any domages gettin during shipping. I`ll drive with unit to germany and will give it to your hands and maybe stay for party or something :yepp: Myabe set a meeting on beggining of January ? Then I`ll have possibility to drive to you ? Please :)

Tomorrow I`ll ask a friend for photos :)

still wanna catch you on msn, because here is not chat to post xxx messages per minute.

[symphy]

Hi,

I don't see any need to talk to you by MSN.

You wrote some nice numbers which are actually totally useless without any proof. Give me pics, specs, go and open a tread about that cascade, whatever. All i want is clear structered process to see what is happening.

"Need a valve for oil" - what the heck? Didn't you know that.. the last two years? What kind of valve?

Turning the unit on and off... hm. Well done, but i think you understand me. Please go back to work after that long time, or give me specs or, even better: both.

[LukeXE]

Hi,

I don't see any need to talk to you by MSN.

You wrote some nice numbers which are actually totally useless without any proof. Give me pics, specs, go and open a tread about that cascade, whatever. All i want is clear structered process to see what is happening.

"Need a valve for oil" - what the heck? Didn't you know that.. the last two years? What kind of valve?

Turning the unit on and off... hm. Well done, but i think you understand me. Please go back to work after that long time, or give me specs or, even better: both.

I`m making new topic, scheme of unit.

Photos for proof, soon.

[LukeXE]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3426486#post3426486

[symphy]

So until now no noticeable progress. Pics are bad and could show just everything, a unit, a pile of trash. This is nothing someone could expect for this amount of money. You're not even willing to try it. Or is the unit already well running and you just didnt post it yet?


...

How will you pay back money? I talked to Victor and some other people here, i think i know what you're playing. But please believe me, this will not work. Dont try to screw me anymore.

Let's make things clear right here in this thread or do it the other way, basically i dont mind which way you choose, but i would prefer the first way as its less work for us both.

[LukeXE]

Why money ? I`ll finish that unit and give it to you. I`ll have new digicam and will make clear photos with working unit. Not a pile of trash !

What I`m playing ? To Victor, Cruise and Memet I`ll give money back, to you an unit. What play ? I have sent few coolers to owners, to few back the money. Your is the last one, what I`m playing ? I`m not dissapearing, I`m finishing that job and wanna be clear with everything.

I`m the baddest here, right.

[symphy]

You're talking about vacuuming 2nd stage, but you dont even have new pics of the unit. You're telling that you got a digicam. Where's the problem?

Update that thread and make clear that you're building this unit. You're not the badboy here, but actually, look at your thread, there's is no progress that can be seen.

Please try to understand me, this is nothing against your person. I'm just waiting another 3 weeks for some kind of proof you obvisouly can't give. That's the point.

First stage is running, second vacuuming? Great. Please pics of first stage running (at least in idle) and 2nd stage. Add a newspaper from this week to the pics or time will be up tomorrow.

Again, nothing against your person. Please try to understand. After this long time nothing than some promises and old pics?

And, regarding the other cutomers: Nice that everything is clear for you, but for your customers it is not, as written in PM to me. But that's not my business, it's just making me thinking about would you're telling to me. I'm tired of discussing again and again what should have happened already months ago.

I gave you a deadline within all rules, 3 weeks are enough to take pics and make clear that you're going to get finished with this. All you 100% did was spending 30 mins on building a scheme and a new thread, everything else isn't proof. That's it.

I would love to believe in what you're saying, but sorry, i can't anymore after that time. But, as you're saying you build this beast, this shouldn't be a problem as all you have to do is taking some pics now before deadline is over.

I'm willing to move deadline if i see that there's progress. I know we're all human and a lot of :banana::banana::banana::banana: happened. That's okay. Just keep it up right now or be honest and pay the money back.

I don't know what happened to the parts i paid for, but now you're recycling old parts to build this unit. That was not the deal. It was MY MONEY you spent on something else, whatever... Keep this in mind. I'll be satisfied if our goal will be reached, nice temps under load and well runnning unit.

If you want to redesign this unit, also no problem. Drop me a PM. To be honest, i don't believe this unit can do what i paid for, but this is your problem now. If this should be the case, drop me a PM.

Imagine you would have spent this amount. Imagine you would have been waiting this long. I know you understand me.

[LukeXE]

Ok, I understand your point.

I will have digicam in couple of days, depends on postal (tomorrow it will be send). So then I`ll make clear pictures.

I`m building this unit, not from old parts, I`m doing it from parts bought to your unit for your money. Everything, compressors, condensers, evap, heat exchangers, two way cut-off switches etc. I never spent your money for anything else.

I`m going now to shop for some electric stuff to get the electric done (fuses etc) and I`ll borrow digicam to give you 100% proof that it`s your unit and it will be done as it should be. I`ll make paper with todays date.

[symphy]

Okay, ignore deadline. Look for your camera, i need some time to decide how to go on with this now.

[LukeXE]

ok, thanks.

REally, believe me, everything will be done excellent. I know that I lost trust and everything, but I`m sure I`ll handle that unit.

and I NEED ya on MSN. Really :)