2900XT beats 8800GTS 640 (cat 7.6)

[GoThr3k]

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1744&Itemid=1

Its a review from fudzilla,not a newspost so dont complains it comes from fudzilla

[v_rr]

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1744&Itemid=1

Its a review from fudzilla,not a newspost so dont complains it comes from fudzilla

Everyone know that except some "experts" on this forum.
This resumes what is the actual situation:
We see that the driver improved the performance as Radeon HD2900XT wins in 3DMark 05 test and Shader Model 3.0 – which is a part of 3DMark06. GeCube performs closer to Geforce 8800GTX than Geforce 8800GTS 640MB. It is a strong enough reason to choose a similarly priced 2900XT over 8800GTS 640MB.

Performance close to 8800GTX with a very smal price compared to 8800GTX and some extra features (HDMI/HDMI-sound and Valve Black-Box).
It´s geting better and better with newer drivers. Let´s see if Cat 7.7 and 7.8 put it at the level of 8800GTX.

[DoubleZero]

Let´s see if Cat 7.7 and 7.8 put it at the level of 8800GTX.

Hummm... No?

[Phlash]

Damn... kinda regret buying that GTX now :\

[Morais]

It´s geting better and better with newer drivers. Let´s see if Cat 7.7 and 7.8 put it at the level of 8800GTX.

Yep and I hope new drivers improve 2400 and 2600 series too.

[v_rr]

Hummm... No?

why not?
It´s possible.... and the 2900XT is not so far away from the 8800gtx.

Everything is possible, only time will tell if the next 2 driver revisions will make the diference.

[Phlash]

Nvidia needs to update some new drivers as well. The G80 hasn't realized its full potential yet either IMO, and some games like Counter-Strike: Source have weird shader glitches on far away objects. Hopefully this will be fixed soon...

[xlink]

not bad. even with AA.

now lets OC both cards(GTS and XT) on their stock coolers and see which one pulls ahead in games when using AA...


ohh man I'm evil...

[DeathReborn]

why not?
It´s possible.... and the 2900XT is not so far away from the 8800gtx.

Everything is possible, only time will tell if the next 2 driver revisions will make the diference.

It's also quite possible for nVidia to get more performance out of the GTS & GTX that not even AMD can match but you'll probably say that's not possible won't you...

[Dimitriman]

Now I want to see 2900XT 1024Mb GDD4 reviewed with 7.6 against the GTX

[triple_A]

Whoa it pretty much pwns the 640mb gts.
That's nice to see :)
hopefully 2600xt will outperform 8600gt(s) too by quite a margin, that shouldn't be too difficult right? lol

[xlink]

It's also quite possible for nVidia to get more performance out of the GTS & GTX that not even AMD can match but you'll probably say that's not possible won't you...

excluding vista, we won't be seeing much more out of the 8800s for a while. I'm hoping I'm wrong but I'm not putting money on it.

right now I'm a slightly defensive nVidia psuedo fanboy since I just dropped a bit of cash on my card. but even if/when the 2900 eclipses it entirely, I don't have to feel bad. @ the time of purchase, the cheapest 2900 was over 450 while I got my 640mb 8800 for 309

Whoa it pretty much pwns the 640mb gts.
That's nice to see :)
hopefully 2600xt will outperform 8600gt(s) too by quite a margin, that shouldn't be too difficult right? lol
only in synthetic bench marks...

which means one of several things
1 I don't care much about benching so ehh
2 I'm in the wrong place to say that aren't I?

[Phlash]

excluding vista, we won't be seeing much more out of the 8800s for a while. I'm hoping I'm wrong but I'm not putting money on it.

right now I'm a slightly defensive nVidia psuedo fanboy since I just dropped a bit of cash on my card. but even if/when the 2900 eclipses it entirely, I don't have to feel bad. @ the time of purchase, the cheapest 2900 was over 450 while I got my 640mb 8800 for 309


only in synthetic bench marks...

which means one of several things
1 I don't care much about benching so ehh
Thats fair enough...
2 I'm in the wrong place to say that aren't I?
...and yes ;)

Then again, this board is called "XtremeSystems" and not "XtremeBenching" and if you are using your PC for gaming, and your system is "Xtreme," then you are in the right place as far as I'm concerned. ;)

[DeathReborn]

excluding vista, we won't be seeing much more out of the 8800s for a while. I'm hoping I'm wrong but I'm not putting money on it.

right now I'm a slightly defensive nVidia psuedo fanboy since I just dropped a bit of cash on my card. but even if/when the 2900 eclipses it entirely, I don't have to feel bad. @ the time of purchase, the cheapest 2900 was over 450 while I got my 640mb 8800 for 309


only in synthetic bench marks...

which means one of several things
1 I don't care much about benching so ehh
2 I'm in the wrong place to say that aren't I?

I bought my 2 8800GTS 640MB cards in November & was planning on picking up 2 HD 2900XL's in April to complete 2 upgrades but AMD still has no 2900XL ans as such, no more of my money in the performance GPU area this round. I'm getting a AGP HD 2400 Pro for a HTPC (XP-M gets a use at last) so i'm not anti AMD, just anti AMD dropping the ball every time I want something from them.

Yes the 2900XT is becoming more impressive for it's price but I don't want a pair of 200W GPU's in my other PC, I wanted the ~180W (I think it was) XL to go with a Barcelona system.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Lets hope we get even more improvements from one cat to another. IMO there is more untapped performance yet out of the HD 2900XT.

[jimmyz]

keep in mind both cards can advance dramatically from drivers, even more so than previous generations. it is still too early to say which card will end up on top....maybe neither. so buy what you want.

btw: i am slightly biased as i am an ati fan, but i still feel that both are good cards.

[deathman20]

keep in mind both cards can advance dramatically from drivers, even more so than previous generations. it is still too early to say which card will end up on top....maybe neither. so buy what you want.

btw: i am slightly biased as i am an ati fan, but i still feel that both are good cards.

To early to tell? nVidia's card has been out for what 8+ months now. Surely if there was any more performance left in the card they would of ironed that out by now. Maybe not in Vista but at least in XP.

[sladesurfer]

Im happy with my purchase. Asus 8800 GTS 320mb for $230 shipped on ebay :D

[Xope_Poquar]

If only AMD could have had these drivers when they released R600. It'll take some time before the card will stop being the laughing stock of some forums. Oh well, better late than never.

Now if only they'd drop the price to compete with the 8800GTS 640. The card is still $400 at Newegg, compared to the the GTS 640's $310. (It was $310, looks like the price jumped a bit).

So hopefully AMD will enjoy this for as long as they can. Nvidia's next card sounds like a monster in the rumor department.


Edit: Looks like the 2900XT has an Achilles' Heel will AA enabled. Ouch! Hopefully that'll be fixed soon. From the looks of it, if you enabled AA in 3dMark, it'd be barely able to edge out the X1950XTX.
Edit 2: Are FEAR, Quake 4, and CoH all ATI biased games? Seems strange how the X1950XTX is on par with the 8800GTS 640.

[Scimitar]

Well, the 2900XT pretty much smokes the NVIDIA card in its price range, the 8800GTS. Kind of a no brainer decision if you're looking for the best card in the $350 price range right now.

[gallag]

Is there any more sources for this or is it just fudzilla? It sure makes the 2900xt look a lot better.

[nicepun]

I'm waiting for Dil-Tech's input, which should be very interesting.

[Shintai]

Is there any more sources for this or is it just fudzilla? It sure makes the 2900xt look a lot better.

Just fudzilla. I guess it was suddenly accepted when some..people needed backup.

Fudzilla is and stay at the fud :down:

[Xope_Poquar]

Well, the 2900XT pretty much smokes the NVIDIA card in its price range, the 8800GTS. Kind of a no brainer decision if you're looking for the best card in the $350 price range right now.

Not everyone considers 8% increase in performance a "no-brainer" decision for the 25% increase in price.

[ether.real]

And not everyone considers 3DMark a good indicator of gaming performance.

[Kasparz]

Is there any more sources for this or is it just fudzilla? It sure makes the 2900xt look a lot better.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1123/ati_catalyst_7_6_performance_analysis/index.html
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1122/1

[Repoman]

And not everyone considers 3DMark a good indicator of gaming performance.

Indeed

[jimmyz]

To early to tell? nVidia's card has been out for what 8+ months now. Surely if there was any more performance left in the card they would of ironed that out by now. Maybe not in Vista but at least in XP.

i was refering to dx10 when i said it was too early to tell. when some more dx10 titles come out we will know more.

[Xope_Poquar]

when ANY dx10 titles come out

Fixed.

[GripS]

Nice. Ati on the rebound. This is good for prices. I'd expect to see the 8800GTS prices to drop. The X2900XT is still a bit more expensive though.

[quicksilverXP]

I'd say great for high resolution... but if you don't have high res... the AA just tanks on this card.

[Revv23]

Well, the 2900XT pretty much smokes the NVIDIA card in its price range, the 8800GTS. Kind of a no brainer decision if you're looking for the best card in the $350 price range right now.

where can you get one for $350?

[road-runner]

where can you get one for $350?

NewEgg has them for $394.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102095)

[sladesurfer]

Well, the 2900XT pretty much smokes the NVIDIA card in its price range, the 8800GTS. Kind of a no brainer decision if you're looking for the best card in the $350 price range right now.

now thats a lie :shakes:

[trans am]

Well, the 2900XT pretty much smokes the NVIDIA card in its price range, the 8800GTS. Kind of a no brainer decision if you're looking for the best card in the $350 price range right now.



It should say: The HD2900xt is a great card if you want to fill the price/performance gap between the 8800gts 640mb and the 8800 Ultra. too bad about the 2600xt. AMD should've made a cut down 2900 and priced it at $200 and called it their midrange.

[Jacky]

so it wins most of the time against a 8800gts but it also costs more, that's what I call fair-priced. if it sells well, great for amd :)

[DilTech]

I'm waiting for Dil-Tech's input, which should be very interesting.

Ask, and you shall receive.

This has been noted, but it's not as big a deal as made out to be...

1.) We don't know what drivers the NVidia cards were run with. No biggie though, as it really doesn't matter..See below.

2.) These are all titles the HD2900xt already beat the 8800gts in(minus fear), even with the release drivers! ;)

So, I fail to see the importance of these tests, as their "benchmark suite" was ones we already knew the 2900xt beat the GTS. :up:
It really doesn't show if there's been a change where the card hurts the most, like Stalker.

Interesting enough for you? I hope I didn't disappoint.

[Scimitar]

My bad on the price, $395 is right. It is still a good value for the performace you get.

[gallag]

Ask, and you shall receive.

This has been noted, but it's not as big a deal as made out to be...

1.) We don't know what drivers the NVidia cards were run with. No biggie though, as it really doesn't matter..See below.

2.) These are all titles the HD2900xt already beat the 8800gts in(minus fear), even with the release drivers! ;)

So, I fail to see the importance of these tests, as their "benchmark suite" was ones we already knew the 2900xt beat the GTS. :up:
It really doesn't show if there's been a change where the card hurts the most, like Stalker.

Interesting enough for you? I hope I didn't disappoint.

If they actually picked only the games that 2900xt already won then ALL enthusiasts should be outraged. What ever side of the fence you sit on, A blatantly misleading review should be shunned by all.:(

[Metroid]

Im happy with my purchase. Asus 8800 GTS 320mb for $230 shipped on ebay :D

Well with this price you have a winner in your system.

[xlink]

Is there any more sources for this or is it just fudzilla? It sure makes the 2900xt look a lot better.

who cares? The faster the 2900 is, the more likely we are to get a price war.

[v_rr]

Ask, and you shall receive.

This has been noted, but it's not as big a deal as made out to be...

1.) We don't know what drivers the NVidia cards were run with. No biggie though, as it really doesn't matter..See below.

2.) These are all titles the HD2900xt already beat the 8800gts in(minus fear), even with the release drivers! ;)

So, I fail to see the importance of these tests, as their "benchmark suite" was ones we already knew the 2900xt beat the GTS. :up:
It really doesn't show if there's been a change where the card hurts the most, like Stalker.

Interesting enough for you? I hope I didn't disappoint.

So you are talking about this review were they test lots of games:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd-2900-games.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/radeon-hd-2900-games/results_table.png

HD 2900 XT continue to win by a large margin. What´s the excuse off this?

It´s not enought?
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1122/1
Other.... what´s the excuse for this one?

As I said first: Everyone know this except some "experts" off this forum.

Someone talked were to get HD 2900XT for 350 euros?
Take it:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=56&subid=922
http://www.kuantokusta.pt/produtos.php?catalogo=1&Prod_ID=24817
http://www.kuantokusta.pt/produtos.php?catalogo=1&Prod_ID=24755

The lowest price can be find in Germany for example where it cost 333 euros.

So just think how much money Newegg and other companys are making with HD 2900 XT. Don´t be surprised to see drops in price off 50 euros, because that´s the amount off money that many shop´s are taking to themselves.

[DilTech]

So you are talking about this review were they test lots of games:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd-2900-games.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/radeon-hd-2900-games/results_table.png

HD 2900 XT continue to win by a large margin. What´s the excuse off this?

It´s not enought?
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1122/1
Other.... what´s the excuse for this one?

As I said first: Everyone know this except some "experts" off this forum.

Someone talked were to get HD 2900XT for 350 euros?
Take it:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=56&subid=922
http://www.kuantokusta.pt/produtos.php?catalogo=1&Prod_ID=24817
http://www.kuantokusta.pt/produtos.php?catalogo=1&Prod_ID=24755

The lowest price can be find in Germany for example where it cost 333 euros.

So just think how much money Newegg and other companys are making with HD 2900 XT. Don´t be surprised to see drops in price off 50 euros, because that´s the amount off money that many shop´s are taking to themselves.

Tweaktown has 0 credibility...
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1122/14/page_13_benchmarks_high_quality_aa_and_af/index.html

Anyone here, run HL2:LC's benchmark, at the 1280x1024 with 4xAA. I promise you'll get A LOT more fps then they claim, even if you're on a X2.

As for xbitlabs, they're credibility has come into question as of late as well. First, them claiming the G80 wasn't going to be a unified shader design, then they claimed to run the HD2900xt with 7.5, and then did another review and claimed a different driver, but gave the EXACT SAME RESULTS, down to the tenth of a frame. ;) So, either the driver didn't make any difference in any single title(although, I don't see it possible to hit the EXACT same results down to the tenth), or xbit is full of it. You decide.

Either way, you mistook my statement, which I figured someone would. I'm saying that the testing done by fud is useless, as it doesn't show if the new drivers helped out in the cards problem areas, which is what the main importance of the newer drivers is. Who cares if you gain 10fps when you already had 90-100? What matters is if it makes a game which has problems running work properly, right?

[nicepun]

<<<---^^Popping some popcorn and grabs some brewskies for the show...LOL

[DilTech]

<<<---^^Popping some popcorn and grabs some brewskies for the show...LOL

There's not going to be one, as there's no need for an argument over the situation.

[Jacky]

Someone talked were to get HD 2900XT for 350 euros?

nah $ and € ain't the same, it was 350$... (which would equal 260€)

[XeRo]

Still waiting for AA fix... CoH at 8xAA = slideshow.

[Dainas]

Not everyone considers 8% increase in performance a "no-brainer" decision for the 25% increase in price.

Yeah, I was gonna say. Where can one find a HD2900XT 512mb for well under $400 these days? If I could get one for $300 in a few months like the 640MB 8800GTS are getting to now I would like to buy a HD2900XT to put in this machine and I'll migrate my 8800GTX to a new Intel system.

[xlink]

Tweaktown has 0 credibility...

Anyone here, run HL2:LC's benchmark, at the 1280x1024 with 4xAA. I promise you'll get A LOT more fps then they claim, even if you're on a X2.


1680*1050 4xAA 118FPS

[DilTech]

1680*1050 4xAA 118FPS

Case in point.

[jimmyz]

146 with a 2900 and a 4ghz c2d. want me to o.c. it and see what she does?

[DilTech]

146 with a 2900 and a 4ghz c2d. want me to o.c. it and see what she does?

No need, it just proves my point that tweaktown's credibility just isn't there.

[Xope_Poquar]

http://www.capcom.com/BBS/showpost.php?p=246329&postcount=10

According to this Nvidia is planning to boost their DX10 performance 25% better than their current driver. Don't know how credible the source is though.

[henrys]

http://www.capcom.com/BBS/showpost.php?p=246329&postcount=10

According to this Nvidia is planning to boost their DX10 performance 25% better than their current driver. Don't know how credible the source is though.

that's just a random post by "some guy" on the intardnet. If tweaktown has 0 credibility, the source you quoted has negative credibility :ROTF:

[jimmyz]

Christian Svensson
Capcom Entertainment Inc. - Sr. Director of Strategic Planning & Research
The official "I wish I could tell you more, but then I'd have to kill you™" guy


maybe you should read his sig before referring to him as some random guy on the intardnet.

i would say his post carries more credibility than yours.

[Yukon Trooper]

Wait until third quarter and I bet the 2900xt will start to show what its made of.

[DilTech]

Wait until third quarter and I bet the 2900xt will start to show what its made of.

I'm sure it will, I'm sure every DX10 card on the market will see considerable gains by then. I'm even more-so sure that we'll all be too busy talking about the next-gen cards coming in q4 to care, unfortunately. ;)

[DilTech]

Next person to post anything involving flames in this thread isn't going to have a very happy day. I'm letting that be known here and now.

[WiCKeD]

As for xbitlabs, they're credibility has come into question as of late as well. First, them claiming the G80 wasn't going to be a unified shader design, then they claimed to run the HD2900xt with 7.5, and then did another review and claimed a different driver, but gave the EXACT SAME RESULTS, down to the tenth of a frame. ;) So, either the driver didn't make any difference in any single title(although, I don't see it possible to hit the EXACT same results down to the tenth), or xbit is full of it. You decide.Okay lets leave out the libelous attacks on xbit. They have probably the most comprehensive review on the HD2900XT and end up pro-8800GTS. Tarnishing a review site's name, just to argue a viewpoint is uncalled for.

Is the driver difference possible? Of course and that's one thing that I wanted to point out. Fudzilla shows over a 35% better performance (http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1744&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=3) of the HD2900XT against the 8800GTS in 1600x1200 4xAA/16AF, yet in TweakTown's review they compare the drivers and there is only 1/10th of a frame difference (http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1123/6/page_6_benchmarks_company_of_heroes/index.html) at ultra high-res in the same game? So the drivers certainly did not account for that improvement.

xbit states this about CoH: We tested the game in the pure speed mode with enabled anisotropic filtering only, because it has problems when you turn on FSAA.If that is true, that already eliminates one of the Fudzilla benchmarks as being a fair comparison. He obviously set out with a goal in mine to support the HD2900XT, by using those specific titles.

[saaya]

review from fudzilla, im not even going to have a look at it... sorry but their news already freaked me out a couple of times

[mascaras]

AMD/ATI, waiting for the right moment to pounce?

It seems that PCMagazine has gotten their hands on a "special" version of the Radeon HD 2900XT in a Crossfire setup which nearly DOUBLES performance across some games and benchmarks over NVIDIA's 8800 GTX SLI.

The systems they used were direct from Falcon Northwest and so the question is... what about the rest of us? The folks over at Dailytech provide their insight into this interesting find in an editorial.

[---]

The link to the original review is here:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2146999,00.asp

Source: Dailytech (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7864)

http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/16/0,1425,sz=1&i=162825,00.gif


http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=34196








Someone with a GTX SLI did benchmark it and found similar results here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2281150&postcount=39)

Also note that in other forums the HD 2900XT is doing much better in Vista then the G80. Benchmarks using Vista here (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/05/31/evga_e_geforce_8800_ultra_superclock/2). As you can see the ATI arch is more efficient in running games in Vista then G80 arch is. IMHO, I don't see G80 drivers closing the HD 2900XT delta but any thing is possible.


http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=381814&postcount=9






Falcon Nortwest first with HD 2900 XTX?

$164 price premium over HD 2900 XT


It seems like PCMag didn't do their homework properly, as the Falcon Northwest system they tested could've come with Radeon HD 2900 XTX 1GB cards. Falcon Northwest is listing two different configurations with Radeon HD 2900 XTX cards on it's Mach V configuration site and a single card carries a $164 price premium over a HD 2900 XT.

If this is indeed the case, then this would partially explain the huge performance advantage the Falcon Northwest CrossFire system had over the two SLI systems. A CrossFire setup will cost an additional $1,360 over the default GeForce 8600GT card that the Mach V comes with.

A single Radeon HD 2900 XTX 1GB GDDR4 has a lower price premium over a GeForce 8800GTX, as this would cost you an additonal $608 compared to a $565 premium for the AMD card.

You can find the Falcon Northwest Mach V configuration page here and in case something has changed, you can check out our screen grab below.

http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/19573/2001387333762966940_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001387333762966940)

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1760&Itemid=1


:up:

[enz660]

Does anyone here want to see hr-03's +92mm fan on the 2900's and 8800's and see which one is fastest once overclocked? I dont know many ppl on this forum who run their cards at stock speeds. AND considering this is XTREME SYSTEMS :shocked: ...yeah you get it.

From the reviews ive read, the 2900 gets a pretty good performance boost once overclocked.

[xlink]

Does anyone here want to see hr-03's +92mm fan on the 2900's and 8800's and see which one is fastest once overclocked? I dont know many ppl on this forum who run their cards at stock speeds. AND considering this is XTREME SYSTEMS :shocked: ...yeah you get it.

From the reviews ive read, the 2900 gets a pretty good performance boost once overclocked.

you're forgetting that the GTS is the same arch as the ultra basically and can do ultra core speeds and beyond.

HD2900 might OC better than the GTX and ultra, but not the underrated GTS.

[hawkeyefan]

:up:


:eek: :eek: :eek:

Can those numbers be right?
GTX SLI on QX6800@ 3.73ghz
XTX Crossfire QX6800@ 3.61ghz

:up: is an understatement

[Metroid]

I'm just expecting the AA bug be fixed so we can run new bench's. It is still a flop hardware until they prove it different.

[Shintai]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Can those numbers be right?
GTX SLI on QX6800@ 3.73ghz
XTX Crossfire QX6800@ 3.61ghz

:up: is an understatement

I think the conclusion was SLI wasnt working. So its CF 2900XT vs single GTX.
The massive difference (in the wrong direction) between the 2 GTX SLI setups in 3Dmark06 also invalidates it.

Oh..and lastly: (8xAA/16xAF, 1920x1200)
http://it-review.net/images/stories/A/AMD/R600/CFvsSLI/8x/1920/Prey.png

[v_rr]

I think the conclusion was SLI wasnt working. So its CF 2900XT vs single GTX.
The massive difference (in the wrong direction) between the 2 GTX SLI setups in 3Dmark06 also invalidates it.

Oh..and lastly: (8xAA/16xAF, 1920x1200)
http://it-review.net/images/stories/A/AMD/R600/CFvsSLI/8x/1920/Prey.png

In Windows Vista 64bits?

[Shintai]

In Windows Vista 64bits?

You do know if it isn´t, then you are admitting nVidia got driver problems in Vista. And its nothing to do with any "socalled" great 2900XT performance?

Ofcourse its not, nVidias vista driver is broken with SLI, or atleast the last one was.

[enz660]

you're forgetting that the GTS is the same arch as the ultra basically and can do ultra core speeds and beyond.

HD2900 might OC better than the GTX and ultra, but not the underrated GTS.

whatever.. a oc'ed 8800gtx will still be faster than an oc'ed gts, but now that these new drivers for the 2900's are out, im curious how one of those overclocked (all with aftermarket cooling of course) will do against big bad nvidia.

[MichelinGuy]

I have got this driver now and it pwns, the card makes way less sound now. It owns.

[[XC] Lead Head]

I have got this driver now and it pwns, the card makes way less sound now. It owns.

Temps?

[AbelJemka]

I think the conclusion was SLI wasnt working. So its CF 2900XT vs single GTX.
The massive difference (in the wrong direction) between the 2 GTX SLI setups in 3Dmark06 also invalidates it.

Oh..and lastly: (8xAA/16xAF, 1920x1200)
http://it-review.net/images/stories/A/AMD/R600/CFvsSLI/8x/1920/Prey.png
Why you still use this old 14th of may article?
http://it-review.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1337&Itemid=91&limit=1&limitstart=1
This is the oldest 2900XT review of all the net :rofl:
You use to give a level of credibility to all site, what is the level of credibility fot it-review.net ?:rolleyes:

[DilTech]

Why you still use this old 14th of may article?
http://it-review.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1337&Itemid=91&limit=1&limitstart=1
This is the oldest 2900XT review of all the net :rofl:
You use to give a level of credibility to all site, what is the level of credibility fot it-review.net ?:rolleyes:

Technically, VR-Zone's HD 2900xt was the oldest review, not counting the ones that people questioned before it.

Either way, I'm still anxiously awaiting VR-Zone's new review of the card with the latest drivers that they promised to do at the end of their first review of it. :D

[MichelinGuy]

Lead Head;2290172']Temps?

The temps are 47-48 idle in catalyst. But it's 12 in the night and i' ve got my window open. I don't know the load temp. How do you stress your video card 100%? :confused: The only way I know is start up a game and then go in a level with that gives the video card a hard time and then close it really quick and check the temp. But when I did it with San Andreas it was 54 degrees... but now i'm gonna install Overlord and going to play it 1680 by 1050 everything maxed out so maybe it will stress the card more than San Andreas did. :cool:

[AbelJemka]

Technically, VR-Zone's HD 2900xt was the oldest review, not counting the ones that people questioned before it.

Either way, I'm still anxiously awaiting VR-Zone's new review of the card with the latest drivers that they promised to do at the end of their first review of it. :D
it-review test the board all week (check the site). So technically they were the oldest review.

[Shintai]

Why you still use this old 14th of may article?
http://it-review.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1337&Itemid=91&limit=1&limitstart=1
This is the oldest 2900XT review of all the net :rofl:
You use to give a level of credibility to all site, what is the level of credibility fot it-review.net ?:rolleyes:

But the one with with the 3.2Ghz quad vs the 3.73Ghz Quad with the slower one getting 1K and 2K 3Dmark06 more is better?

Please...and not many reviews got SLI and CF in.

[mascaras]

I have got this driver now and it pwns, the card makes way less sound now. It owns.

;)

every time a new driver is released became better and better :up:

[AbelJemka]

I never say i trust either review just that ou can stop posting this old review (and crappy review).
Xbitslabs promised a multigpu review at the end of their single 2900 review but we still wait. I thinki Vista multigpu is a mess :down: .

[Eastcoasthandle]

Interesting, was that a multi GPU review using Vista?

[MichelinGuy]

I don't know if this is accurate but I was playing Overlord 1680 by 1050 everything maxed out and then opened catalyst and looked in Overdrive. It showed only 58 degrees C!!! Great game by the way, minions attack!!!

[DilTech]

I don't know if this is accurate but I was playing Overlord 1680 by 1050 everything maxed out and then opened catalyst and looked in Overdrive. It showed only 58 degrees C!!! Great game by the way, minions attack!!!

Temps go down when you alt+tab out of 3d applications(as the card is no longer under stress), but the temps on the HD2900xt aren't too bad to begin with if you have decent air-flow. :up:

[AbelJemka]

Temperature drop and climb fast...

[fornowagain]

Please...and not many reviews got SLI and CF in.
One here with Vista

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/05/31/evga_e_geforce_8800_ultra_superclock/2

[GoThr3k]

you're forgetting that the GTS is the same arch as the ultra basically and can do ultra core speeds and beyond.

HD2900 might OC better than the GTX and ultra, but not the underrated GTS.
you do realize that the GTS has a smaller memory controller and less shaders???

[nullface]

not bad. even with AA.

now lets OC both cards(GTS and XT) on their stock coolers and see which one pulls ahead in games when using AA...


ohh man I'm evil...

Lol, you only said that becourse you did buy a GTS

[DilTech]

you do realize that the GTS has a smaller memory controller and less shaders???

Actually, he's right... Going by percentage the 8800GTS is the highest overclocking part out in the high-end.

500mhz to 621-660+ on stock cooling with stock voltage? Going by percentage, that's huge.

[GoThr3k]

he says GTS is same arch as Ultra, not true if you ask me, i know it overclocks well ;)

[DilTech]

he says GTS is same arch as Ultra, not true if you ask me, i know it overclocks well ;)

It's the same architecture, it's just a cut down chip. :up:

[Jacky]

he says GTS is same arch as Ultra, not true if you ask me, i know it overclocks well ;)

you are wrong, they are absolutely the same arch (if I understand anand correctly). it's llike core 2s with 4mb and 2mb..
the gts just has 2 disabled "quads" (=32 shaders, 16 texture fetch units), probably for yield purposes.
source (http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2870&p=6)