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coffeetime
07-02-2007, 01:44 PM
http://www.dailytech.com/Researchers+Demonstrate+Laser+Hard+Drives+/article7900.htm

Lab experiments show laser hard drives 100x faster than conventional technology

When it comes to computer technology, hard drives have advanced the slowest over the years are far as speed is concerned. We've seen dramatic increases in processing speed and graphics power, but HDDs have long been the bottleneck in modern systems.

Many are looking to solid state disks (SSDs) to give a boost in speed. In addition, SSDs have the advantage of lighter weight, more efficient packaging, silent operation, durability and power efficiency.

The major drawback, however, is pricing. Current 1.8" SSDs are roughly five times as expensive as their 1.8" HDD counterparts. Analysts expect the difference to only drop to three times as expensive by 2010.

With this in mind, researchers are looking to other alternatives to traditional HDD technology. Researchers at Radboud University Nijmegen are using lasers to write data to HDDs (http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2007/628/3). Each laser pulse is capable of heating up a portion of the magnetic disk (made up of cobalt, gadolinium and iron) to change its polarity. By doing this, 1's and 0's can be recorded at rapid speeds.

Researchers claim that the use of lasers makes the drive 100 times faster than conventional hard drives.

"This is one of the most exciting stories in magnetics," remarked Julius Hohlfeld of Seagate Research. While current laboratory experiments have been successful, a working prototype isn't expected for another 5+ years.



http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2007/628/3


http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/content/vol2007/issue628/images/200762831.jpg
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Artist's impression of how laser pulses could replace conventional data transfers to magnetic disks by reversing the spin--and therefore the polarity--of their photons.
Credit: Stanciu et al., Physical Review Letters


Lighting a Fire Under Hard Drives

In the race to make computers more powerful, magnets may be out and lasers may be in. Ultra-rapid pulses of polarized light fired from lasers, new tests show, can outperform conventional magnetic data writers by as much as two orders of magnitude. The technology could form the foundation of a new generation of computers that link lasers to their hard drives.

Long gone are the days when computers were required only to make mathematical calculations. Even modest desktop models are now expected to handle streaming audio and video from multiple Web sites simultaneously, for example. Those functions require huge amounts of data to be transferred quickly to and from the hard drive. But current data-processing systems, which use magnets to write and read the binary code that constitutes computer language, can only work so fast. Some users' needs have begun to bump up against the limitations of this technology. If computers are to become faster, they'll require a different data-transfer system, and the awesome promise of quantum computing remains years away.

Researchers at Radboud University Nijmegen in the Netherlands think they've found another candidate. In laboratory experiments, they used laser light to write data to a magnetic hard drive at very high speeds. The technique works because the photons transmitted by the laser actually carry angular momentum, allowing them to interact with the hard drive. Also, each laser pulse heats a tiny space on the disk just enough to make changing its polarity--thereby storing a bit of data--a little easier. The key is reversing the polarity of the laser pulses, which can produce the equivalent of either a 1 or a 0 of binary code on the disk storage medium.

The researchers managed to transfer data at intervals of about 40 femtoseconds, or quadrillionths of a second, about 100 times faster than conventional magnetic transfers, the researchers report in a paper accepted for publication by Physical Review Letters. One drawback is that the footprint of the laser pulse on the disk is about 5 microns wide, which is considerably larger than the footprint produced by existing data-transfer systems. But physics doctoral candidate and co-author Daniel Stanciu says the team is working on improvements in the technology that should reduce the footprint's size to about 10 nanometers, and he expects to see a working prototype within a decade.

"This is one of the most exciting stories in magnetics," says physicist Julius Hohlfeld of Seagate Research in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Lots of other researchers have tried to employ polarized laser light to write data, he says, but everyone failed because the magnetic alloys they used for the storage medium did not work. But the disk made of gadolinium, iron, and cobalt that Stanciu's team used has succeeded. The next challenge, Hohlfeld says, will be to find a relatively cheap laser technology that can fire pulses lasting less than 100 femtoseconds.

XS Janus
07-02-2007, 02:05 PM
well 100x faster sounds just about enough for me... :D

xsbb
07-02-2007, 02:28 PM
That'd be perfect, now what about the actual connection from the hard drive to the mobo? I hope by the time those laser HDs are ready we'll have something for that too

JamesAvery22
07-02-2007, 02:37 PM
I'd take that "two orders of magnitude" claim with a grain of salt. Maybe the read/write delay by itself(as in how long it takes to read a 1 or 0 after the head has already seeked), sure. It still comes down to a spinning platter.

I'm all for competing technologies, but this seems more like a step sideways.

Amplified
07-02-2007, 02:46 PM
CD/DVD in a box?

[XC] hipno650
07-02-2007, 02:47 PM
That'd be perfect, now what about the actual connection from the hard drive to the mobo? I hope by the time those laser HDs are ready we'll have something for that too

ya that bandwidth will fill a Sata2 bus pretty quickly.

Shintai
07-02-2007, 03:02 PM
I still prefer the SSD approach. And the laser sounds abit like optical storage. Not really something we want. Also we want lower power consumption and NO NOISE and no dead drives when the angry gamer kicks the box.

[XC] Lead Head
07-02-2007, 03:34 PM
I still prefer the SSD approach. And the laser sounds abit like optical storage. Not really something we want. Also we want lower power consumption and NO NOISE and no dead drives when the angry gamer kicks the box.

Until your OS's swap hits the flash chips max read/write cycles.

ColonelCain
07-02-2007, 11:34 PM
That'd be perfect, now what about the actual connection from the hard drive to the mobo? I hope by the time those laser HDs are ready we'll have something for that too

Seriously. While there may be "SATA 300", it is still limited by the interface in the HDD.

madcho
07-03-2007, 12:06 AM
what about the holographic hard drives ?

Spawne32
07-03-2007, 12:07 AM
what about the holographic hard drives ?

what is this xmen? :rofl: b ut the idea of laser hard drives sounds promising if its practical.We certainly need hard drive tech to take a new direction.

Shintai
07-03-2007, 12:35 AM
Lead Head;2286413']Until your OS's swap hits the flash chips max read/write cycles.

Or a bad block on a normal/laser disk? :p:

j4m3zz
07-03-2007, 12:59 AM
what about the holographic hard drives ?

what is this xmen? :rofl: b ut the idea of laser hard drives sounds promising if its practical.We certainly need hard drive tech to take a new direction.

Ahem, umm, cough, lookoverhere - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc

p8ntslinger676
07-03-2007, 03:12 AM
they said a lot about writing, but they never mentioned reading, now how the hell do you read polarity with a damn laser, tell me that.

Serra
07-03-2007, 03:26 AM
That'd be perfect, now what about the actual connection from the hard drive to the mobo? I hope by the time those laser HDs are ready we'll have something for that too

The connection speed between the hard drive itself and the motherboard is trivial by comparison to the time it takes to read/write data. Electrical transfer is measured in ns, while actual seek time is measured in ms... that's three orders of magnitude larger as a minimum.

they said a lot about writing, but they never mentioned reading, now how the hell do you read polarity with a damn laser, tell me that.

I suspect it would work pretty much exactly like a DVD-RAM disc, though hopefully with considerably better density.

SturmoV
07-03-2007, 01:36 PM
they said a lot about writing, but they never mentioned reading, now how the hell do you read polarity with a damn laser, tell me that.


This tech looks to be similar to or is the same as the one used in MiniDisc.

Recordable MiniDiscs use a magneto-optical system to record data. A laser heats one side of the disc to its Curie point, making the material in the disc susceptible to a magnetic field. A magnetic head on the other side of the disc alters the polarity of the heated area, recording the digital data onto the disk. Playback is accomplished with the laser alone: taking advantage of the Faraday effect, the player senses the polarisation of the reflected light and thus interprets a 1 or a 0.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiniDisc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto-optical

Yukon Trooper
07-03-2007, 09:55 PM
Enter Nano technology!

turbox997
07-03-2007, 10:14 PM
and he expects to see a working prototype within a decade.

This can't come out soon enough... but hey, by then it'll probably compete against
SSD for price vs performance.

dinos22
07-03-2007, 10:20 PM
i really hope something comes off this technology as HDDs are the single biggest performance problem in computers today i feel.............................................. .................................................. .............. fingers crossed :D

NapalmV5
07-03-2007, 10:40 PM
they gotta get budget boost, we need this asap! :D

iddqd
07-04-2007, 12:31 AM
I'd take that "two orders of magnitude" claim with a grain of salt. Maybe the read/write delay by itself(as in how long it takes to read a 1 or 0 after the head has already seeked), sure. It still comes down to a spinning platter.

I'm all for competing technologies, but this seems more like a step sideways.

Do you honestly think that there is some problem with making faster spinning electric motors?! We haven't seen any major improvement in spindle speed precisely because the heads can't read/write fast enough for the spindle to spin at eleventy kajillion rpm. Well, that and people caring mostly about the capacity anyway.
i really hope something comes off this technology as HDDs are the single biggest performance problem in computers today i feel.............................................. .................................................. .............. fingers crossed :D

It's called SSD. Moving parts are for chumps.

Super Nade
07-06-2007, 12:19 PM
Using spin polarization has many applications and I'm glad that something may make it to the mainstream. The basic idea is that angular momentum of the system has to be conserverd.

In my lab, we are using the same phenomenon, i.e involving light-matter interaction to set-up laser cooling and trapping of neutral atoms.

breakfromyou
07-07-2007, 07:31 AM
SSD is a way off from being fast...Nice access times, but the bandwidth of today's SSD drives aren't as high as it can and should be. Give it a few years.

Laser drives...definitely a step sideways.

iddqd
07-07-2007, 11:03 AM
SSD is a way off from being fast...Nice access times, but the bandwidth of today's SSD drives aren't as high as it can and should be. Give it a few years.

Laser drives...definitely a step sideways.

No, but even the current laptop SSD drives put desktop hard drives to shame. And they're mostly limited by the IDE transfer rate... (I don't think anyone's tried the SATA SSDs that just came out last week).

SparkyJJO
07-07-2007, 11:20 AM
Do you honestly think that there is some problem with making faster spinning electric motors?! We haven't seen any major improvement in spindle speed precisely because the heads can't read/write fast enough for the spindle to spin at eleventy kajillion rpm. Well, that and people caring mostly about the capacity anyway.

OK if we spin the drive now at say 20,000 RPM due to the lasers that would speed things up. But, the drive would sound like a dremel at that speed ;)

SOLDNER-MOFO64
07-07-2007, 11:27 AM
What about the fact that CPU's and MEMORY will be significantly faster by then? Internet streaming will be 50x more popular....sooo..in 5years + we'll need laser HDD's that can write twice as fast as this prototype can.

:rofl:

nice idea though.

Also, if SSD's are 10 times the price of HDD's now, what are these babies gonna cost.....$3000 each?

I'd rather blow a small fortune on 10 SSD's and raid them.....atleast you can do that NOW :)

WRC
07-07-2007, 05:11 PM
OK if we spin the drive now at say 20,000 RPM due to the lasers that would speed things up. But, the drive would sound like a dremel at that speed ;)

it will need extreme cooling for sure :p:

[XC] Lead Head
07-07-2007, 06:49 PM
OK if we spin the drive now at say 20,000 RPM due to the lasers that would speed things up. But, the drive would sound like a dremel at that speed ;)

I wouldn't exactly call a Dremel a piece of precision balanced technology. If you ran a Dremel at 15,000-20,0000 RPM for an extended period of time, you can expect blown bearings.